DoJ Staff need to explain why they have not reviewed OVP compliance/non-compliance with 32 CFR 2800. [See link under "Anon" for 32 CFR 2800. Kw="Vice President" and you'll see the OVP has reporting, documentation, and security handling requirements.]

To a dirtbag like him, I imagine caging votes and other forms of cheating are winning.

You have also failed to explain how Congress’ exemption from the laws you listed earlier rises to the level of the Pres and VP excluding themselves from oversight in regards to the maintenance of nat’l security/classified info.

I’d wager that had the ISOO made a visit to the VP’s office, and found either info that didn’t belong there (say, info on Valerie Plame), or found missing info that should have been there (again, Valerie Plame), there would have been a lot of ’splainin to do.

Comment by m12 — June 24, 2007 @ 10:59 pm

Bullllllshit. They had no problem with allowing oversight regarding other nat’l security/classified info, especially considering all the intelligence and data the VP and pres would have received AFTER 9/11 related to both al Qaeda, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and other terrorist organizations. And you want us to believe that all of a sudden it’s time to close the door simply because we are getting ready to go to war? It’s not as if we instigated a surprise attack on Iraq. Saddam new months in advance that we’d invade if he didn’t do what Bush demanded.

Comment by m12 — June 24, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

Gee…the same could be said of you…

That’s about the time the war started. The President then decided that the most dire information was to remain within his office and the Vice Presidents’. Hence, he decided to exempt himself. That is his job.

Comment by m12 — June 24, 2007 @ 10:59 pm

Gonzales apparently…probing Cheney

You mean like how John Kerry will win the Presidency? I heard that a lot back a few years back.

Good luck!

What are you doing running around free?

It will be proven at his trial. Along with a great many other things.

What a ridiculous assertion. Prove it!

You know, your arguments are getting more and more pathetic as the day drags on. You are aware, are you not, that it is illegal to classify information just to keep it out of the public domain if it does not relate to national security? Hiding evidence of law-breaking is not a national security concern. They classified and hid information because if it were revealed, it would have shown that they were nothing but a bunch of goddamn liars.

And there is NOTHING credible you can point to that proves me wrong.

That’s about the time the war started. The President then decided that the most dire information was to remain within his office and the Vice Presidents’. Hence, he decided to exempt himself. That is his job.

Comment by m12 — June 24, 2007 @ 10:10 pm

Then Google it and get back with us.

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Well, if nothing else, I’m having a hell of a lot of fun. Plus, I’m improving my typing speed!

Comment by m12 — June 24, 2007 @ 10:08 pm

And you know this for a fact. I didn’t think anyone could know what the president was thinking in taking his actions.

You still haven’t answered why Dana Perino went off on a bullshitting trip during the press conference the other day, sending reporters to three sections that had not a damn thing to do with exempting the VP.

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In the above post, I apologize for not closing the tag.

Comment by m12 — June 24, 2007 @ 9:25 pm

535 members wouldn’t have access to the classified info, you idiot. You do remember the 8 members of the Senate who Bush informed about his warrantless wiretapping program, who were sworn to secrecy? Bush claims he “informed Congress” of his intentions, but you and I know that is patently false. 8 members of a select group of Senators, who are otherwise sworn to secrecy and could tell NO ONE about Bush’s activities, do not comprise Congress. As well, we know what happened when Jay Rockefeller contacted Cheney in what I imagine was an attempt at oversight in that he expressed concerns with the program…Cheney ignored him.

The whole point of this is to safeguard national security issues and classified info. Why wouldn’t Bush and Cheney support that, and why don’t you give a damn about it? Why would they have no problem with it up through 2002, and then do everything in their power to prevent it from 2003 on? You apparently support a president and VP who are an entity unto themselves, who are untouchable by anyone.

BTW, then, by your argument, shouldn’t Gonzales be impeached? And don’t tell me that this has nothing to do with the topic, you’ve been all over the place topic-wise on this thread today.

Probably. Gonzalez is useless; he made the same mistake.

All he had to do was state the power clearly given to him by the Patriot Act.

I don’t know anything about this, so I cannot say.