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	<title>Comments on: Lugar: U.S. Must Reduce Military Presence In Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: guns'n'bibles</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3888737</link>
		<dc:creator>guns'n'bibles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Bush and the Republicans are coming out with an Iraq War Tax so all good Americans can show their patriotism and &quot;put their money where their mouth is&quot; Can anybody give me any detials on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Bush and the Republicans are coming out with an Iraq War Tax so all good Americans can show their patriotism and &#8220;put their money where their mouth is&#8221; Can anybody give me any detials on this?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3888737', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AColtharp</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3888044</link>
		<dc:creator>AColtharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my goodness! The Republican imperialists are getting as nervous as the Democratic imperialists!  What&#039;s a hegemonist to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my goodness! The Republican imperialists are getting as nervous as the Democratic imperialists!  What&#8217;s a hegemonist to do?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3888044', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Steamboater</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3887090</link>
		<dc:creator>Steamboater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hary Reid shamefully called Lugar courageous. Such a brave man lugar is. The son-of-a-bitch and his cohorts supported Bush&#039;s war on Americans all these years with almost 4,000 dead now in Iraq. Lugar talks about a &quot;gradual withdrawal&quot; now, a gradual withdrawal that would take years with likely the end reaching 10,000 american dead. Thse guys make you sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hary Reid shamefully called Lugar courageous. Such a brave man lugar is. The son-of-a-bitch and his cohorts supported Bush&#8217;s war on Americans all these years with almost 4,000 dead now in Iraq. Lugar talks about a &#8220;gradual withdrawal&#8221; now, a gradual withdrawal that would take years with likely the end reaching 10,000 american dead. Thse guys make you sick.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3887090', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: writer33</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885672</link>
		<dc:creator>writer33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#182

These blind partisan GOP accusations are pure nonsense. We are in Iraq based on lies and deceptions and twisting &quot;intelligence&quot; to suit the lies. So if there is any &quot;cutting and running,&quot; it has been the GOP and some Democrats who are cutting and running from the truth! And the truth is Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Rice and the whole lot of them, all dishonest, lying presumptuous hypocrites, have cut and run from the truth of the evil that runs our corrupt government! 

Going into Iraq was wrong. Staying there is wrong. And you cannot right a wrong by continuing the wrong! 

A few things to do IMMEDIATELY:

1. Get out of Iraq now!
2. Begin congressional staffing to investigate Articles of Impeachment against Bush-Cheney.
3. Repeal the Military Tribunals Act, the Patriot Act and Homeland Secuirty. The war on terror is a FICTION this corrupt administration used to create the ugly reality that has made terrorism and hatred of America a greater risk to our security, not less. It was a self-fulfilling scheme to justify a moves toward martial law in America. 
4. Begin congressional investigations into corruption within our intelligence community, and put an immediate end to NSA spying on Americans, and work on legislation to completely overhaul the intelligence community with full congressional oversight.
5. Immediately close Guantamano, shut down all CIA &quot;black ops&quot; foreign detention sites, investigate corruption and use of torture, and seek possible charges against Dept. of Defense military brass who were involved in Guantamano and Abu Ghraib atrocities against detainees who used Charles Graner and other low-ranking enlisted personnel as scapegoats to avoid full accountability and responsibility for this inexcusable breach of the Geneva Convention protocols.


Cut and run is cut and run, be it a Dimocrat or a Republican. Lugar has gone wobbly in the knees. Pathetic and disgraceful.

Comment by Big Fitz â€” June 25, 2007 @ 10:15 pm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#182</p>
<p>These blind partisan GOP accusations are pure nonsense. We are in Iraq based on lies and deceptions and twisting &#8220;intelligence&#8221; to suit the lies. So if there is any &#8220;cutting and running,&#8221; it has been the GOP and some Democrats who are cutting and running from the truth! And the truth is Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Rice and the whole lot of them, all dishonest, lying presumptuous hypocrites, have cut and run from the truth of the evil that runs our corrupt government! </p>
<p>Going into Iraq was wrong. Staying there is wrong. And you cannot right a wrong by continuing the wrong! </p>
<p>A few things to do IMMEDIATELY:</p>
<p>1. Get out of Iraq now!<br />
2. Begin congressional staffing to investigate Articles of Impeachment against Bush-Cheney.<br />
3. Repeal the Military Tribunals Act, the Patriot Act and Homeland Secuirty. The war on terror is a FICTION this corrupt administration used to create the ugly reality that has made terrorism and hatred of America a greater risk to our security, not less. It was a self-fulfilling scheme to justify a moves toward martial law in America.<br />
4. Begin congressional investigations into corruption within our intelligence community, and put an immediate end to NSA spying on Americans, and work on legislation to completely overhaul the intelligence community with full congressional oversight.<br />
5. Immediately close Guantamano, shut down all CIA &#8220;black ops&#8221; foreign detention sites, investigate corruption and use of torture, and seek possible charges against Dept. of Defense military brass who were involved in Guantamano and Abu Ghraib atrocities against detainees who used Charles Graner and other low-ranking enlisted personnel as scapegoats to avoid full accountability and responsibility for this inexcusable breach of the Geneva Convention protocols.</p>
<p>Cut and run is cut and run, be it a Dimocrat or a Republican. Lugar has gone wobbly in the knees. Pathetic and disgraceful.</p>
<p>Comment by Big Fitz â€” June 25, 2007 @ 10:15 pm<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885672', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885666</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey &quot;big fitz&quot; what will victory be if we stay?How come you are at your keyboard and not in Iraq?They even take folks with IQs lower than yours so you should be a cinch.Or do you like staying at home with your momma?What a puke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;big fitz&#8221; what will victory be if we stay?How come you are at your keyboard and not in Iraq?They even take folks with IQs lower than yours so you should be a cinch.Or do you like staying at home with your momma?What a puke.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885666', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pine tree</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885607</link>
		<dc:creator>pine tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess for the mild-mannered, milque-toasty Lugar to say something, it&#039;s a big deal to Publicans.  But it&#039;s just more posturing and delay tactics, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess for the mild-mannered, milque-toasty Lugar to say something, it&#8217;s a big deal to Publicans.  But it&#8217;s just more posturing and delay tactics, I&#8217;m sure.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885607', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885575</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lugar&#039;s reversal is a big negative for Bush&amp;Co.  There is an article in the WaPo today about a move underfoot by repugs to remove Cheney.  The guy who has the best odds of slipping into the vacant seat were the removal of Cheney to be accomplished is Fred Thompson!  Giving him a comfortable perch from which to campaign for president.
Cheney is due for a battery replacement this summer.  His steel heart is in need of recharging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lugar&#8217;s reversal is a big negative for Bush&amp;Co.  There is an article in the WaPo today about a move underfoot by repugs to remove Cheney.  The guy who has the best odds of slipping into the vacant seat were the removal of Cheney to be accomplished is Fred Thompson!  Giving him a comfortable perch from which to campaign for president.<br />
Cheney is due for a battery replacement this summer.  His steel heart is in need of recharging.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885575', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pablo picasso</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885513</link>
		<dc:creator>pablo picasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been assessing these guys for a while now....Lugar is a tw*t...and will remain so...UNLESS his voting record makes an unprecedented realignment. I think we should even stop reporting this stuff....only report actual votes and one-page follow-up statements about those votes!!! Dem reps are just as slippery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been assessing these guys for a while now&#8230;.Lugar is a tw*t&#8230;and will remain so&#8230;UNLESS his voting record makes an unprecedented realignment. I think we should even stop reporting this stuff&#8230;.only report actual votes and one-page follow-up statements about those votes!!! Dem reps are just as slippery<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885513', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dirk gently</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885475</link>
		<dc:creator>dirk gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dick lugar - terrorist sympathising cut-and-run surrender monkey who hates america.  

really, though, until he gets on the impeachment bandwagon, it&#039;s all just hot air. c&#039;mon dick - you know you want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dick lugar &#8211; terrorist sympathising cut-and-run surrender monkey who hates america.  </p>
<p>really, though, until he gets on the impeachment bandwagon, it&#8217;s all just hot air. c&#8217;mon dick &#8211; you know you want to.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885475', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll believe Lugar when he puts his vote where his mouth is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll believe Lugar when he puts his vote where his mouth is.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885473', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger_Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger_Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do we plan to do against Iran?  They are now flying helicopters into Iraq and bombing English and American troops.  We are at defacto war already.  Do you folks plan to walk away from them to or can we fight back yet?  They have already directly killed 44 English Soldiers, and indirectly killed 100&#039;s of American/English.  Is this acceptable to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do we plan to do against Iran?  They are now flying helicopters into Iraq and bombing English and American troops.  We are at defacto war already.  Do you folks plan to walk away from them to or can we fight back yet?  They have already directly killed 44 English Soldiers, and indirectly killed 100&#8217;s of American/English.  Is this acceptable to you?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885466', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885441</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as a patriotic Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as a patriotic Republican.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885441', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: NeoCONS 'R' SCUM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeoCONS 'R' SCUM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, the troops will start to come home, uh, yeah- about the time the 2008 elections are nearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, the troops will start to come home, uh, yeah- about the time the 2008 elections are nearing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885426', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nofltwlt</title>
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		<dc:creator>nofltwlt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What took so long?  A person of normal intelligence (none in the GOP) would have never followed the neocons to war and would have bailed on the neocon&#039;s occupation of Iraq a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What took so long?  A person of normal intelligence (none in the GOP) would have never followed the neocons to war and would have bailed on the neocon&#8217;s occupation of Iraq a long time ago.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885422', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Steamboater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steamboater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as Lugar isn&#039;t willing to cut funding and set a timetable to end this war, what he says means nothing. This guy is trying to have his cake an eat it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Lugar isn&#8217;t willing to cut funding and set a timetable to end this war, what he says means nothing. This guy is trying to have his cake an eat it too.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885403', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do have substantial interests now that Saddam is gone. 

Iran has to be checked. He did that for us...until Bush the moron took him out.

So it&#039;s on us and our allies. Well that is, if we had a president who knew what diplomacy means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have substantial interests now that Saddam is gone. </p>
<p>Iran has to be checked. He did that for us&#8230;until Bush the moron took him out.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s on us and our allies. Well that is, if we had a president who knew what diplomacy means.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885396', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;substantial interests in the region&quot;

area rug protection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;substantial interests in the region&#8221;</p>
<p>area rug protection?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885380', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPV</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do Republicans, like Luger, hate America so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do Republicans, like Luger, hate America so much?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885372', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: churchdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>churchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We didn&#039;t have the votes, but i thinkthings may be looking a little differently in the next week or so. Repugs can&#039;t turn their back on the pres or the Party, but guess what? Cheney doesn&#039;t seem to be in the Party or the Executive Branch anymore. He seems to have been operating on his own from the begining. And after all, that&#039;s what the damn liberals said from the start anyway. So now, they can move against Cheney and still be loyal to the Party and keep the President in office till &#039;09. I could be wrong, but, looks like a good opportunity to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We didn&#8217;t have the votes, but i thinkthings may be looking a little differently in the next week or so. Repugs can&#8217;t turn their back on the pres or the Party, but guess what? Cheney doesn&#8217;t seem to be in the Party or the Executive Branch anymore. He seems to have been operating on his own from the begining. And after all, that&#8217;s what the damn liberals said from the start anyway. So now, they can move against Cheney and still be loyal to the Party and keep the President in office till &#8216;09. I could be wrong, but, looks like a good opportunity to me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885367', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/comment-page-4/#comment-3885359</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t currently have the votes to do more than Lugar is proposing.

It&#039;s the start of a possible shift in policy in real rather than theoretical terms. 

Don&#039;t underestimate the significance of it.

It&#039;s about what&#039;s possible, not what&#039;s ideal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t currently have the votes to do more than Lugar is proposing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the start of a possible shift in policy in real rather than theoretical terms. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t underestimate the significance of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about what&#8217;s possible, not what&#8217;s ideal.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3885359', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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