Supreme Court Sides With Administration, Corporations In New Decisions
Supreme Court Sides With Administration, Corporations In New Decisions
The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Bush administration, corporations, and a “pro-life” group in a series of decisions announced today, reaffirming the conservative, business-friendly bent the Court has taken under Chief Justice John Roberts
EPA’s responsibility to protect endangered species weakened:
In a 5-4 decision, the Court ruled that the federal government can avoid its responsibility to protect species under the Endangered Species Act by handing off authority to the states. The EPA routinely delegates administration of the Clean Water Act to states. The Court’s decision means the EPA does not have to ensure that states abide by the federal Endangered Species Act when they issue Clean Water Act permits. [National Association of Home Builders v. Defenders of Wildlife and a companion case]
Ordinary taxpayers cannot challenge Faith-Based Initiative:
In a 5-4 decision, the Court “barred ordinary taxpayers from challenging a White House initiative helping religious charities get a share of federal money.” A taypayers’ group called the Freedom From Religion Foundation sued eight Bush administration officials, including the head of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, objecting to “government conferences in which administration officials encourage religious charities to apply for federal grants.” [Hein v. Freedom From Religion Foundation]
Campaign finance restrictions weakened for corporate- and union-funded ads:
In a 5-4 decision, the Court loosened restrictions on corporate- and union-funded television ads that air close to elections, “weakening a key provision of a landmark campaign finance law.” The court “upheld an appeals court ruling that an anti-abortion group should have been allowed to air ads during the final two months before the 2004 elections.” [Federal Election Commission v. Wisconsin Right-to-Life]
UPDATE: In all three decisions, the majority was formed by Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Kennedy.
UPDATE II: In implicit criticism of President Bush’s recent appointees Roberts and Alito, Justice David Souter chose to read his dissent in the campaign finance case from the bench “to signal his displeasure with the changing court.”
“The court (and, I think, the country), loses when important precedent is overruled without good reason, and there is no justification for departure from our usual rule of stare decisis here,” he said, referring to the court’s rule of following past judgments.
UPDATE III: Steve Benen has an excellent wrap-up.
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The PEOPLE are no longer protected by the highest court in the land.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:54 amFinally, Christianity is not a sin. If we can fund abortions, we can fund faith-based initiatives.
The Supreme Court just took a hard right turn. AND after Stevens steps down this week, it will only get worse for the hateful, anti-free speech, left-wing in this country.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:56 amThe SC has become SO packed with Conserative cronies that put ideology before the Constitution, it will be DECADES before balance is restored to the court.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:56 am#3 - only if we’re lucky. We need the Court to strike down’s the left’s attack on free speech via the Fairness Doctrine.
Thank God for Justice Alito.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:58 amYes because Supreme Court is filled with stooges. Thank some Democrats in the Senate for confirming Roberts as Chief Justice.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:58 amSCOTUS = BabyBushes
June 25th, 2007 at 10:58 amThe Supreme Court is forever.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:00 am#5 - there were 22 Democrats, to be exact.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:01 amwhen in the hell is the rest of our government going to cage these animals? maybe there is a benefit? maybe there will be so much outrage that new laws that prevent such abuse will get written?
that’s funny, the world after shooter? won’t be one. he is determined to kill us when he goes. maybe we will get lucky and will off himself before he can pull the trigger on the rest of us
June 25th, 2007 at 11:04 amTP Hate Machine,
Thank you for providing the hate today. You’re so good at it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:05 amThe only obvious reason for barring ordinary taxpayers from challenging the Faith-Based Initiative is because some ordinary taxpayer is going to bring up the pesky first amendment. That would put SCOTUS in the same position they were in with the Newdow case — either cop out by dismissing on a technicality or justify the erosion of “shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:06 amYes because Supreme Court is filled with stooges. Thank some Democrats in the Senate for confirming Roberts as Chief Justice.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 25, 2007 @ 10:58 am
Yep, we have Dems who are bought and paid Corporate lackeys too… And we need to start treating them like Republican lite… Starting with Lieberman.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:08 amThe Dems should have considered the long term damage that Alito and Roberts would cause. They should have used every tactic to stop these two. Plus these two lied when they said they would respect precedents. I also do not know why some of the judges did not quit while Clinton was president.
Funny how when the Dems were the minority they cried how they could not do a thing, now in the majority, they still can’t do a thing.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:09 amCongress never okayed that faith-based crap.
Chimpy did it by executive order.
Faith-based funding violates the Establishment Clause.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:10 am#11 - puh-leeze!!! Just suck it up. The left’s bloody grip on the Court is over. While still a toss-up, the Court leans right for the most part. At a mininum, they won’t allow Democrats to shut down the opposition via the fairness doctrine.
Interestingly enough, Bush’s two picks sided against Kennedy, Scalia and Thomas and voted NOT to overturn McCain-Feingold.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:10 amStupid inbred Repuke troll.
Ignore his bizarro world rants.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:14 amThat would put SCOTUS in the same position they were in with the Newdow case — either cop out by dismissing on a technicality or justify the erosion of “shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereofâ€.
Comment by missmolly — June 25, 2007 @ 11:06 am
They aren’t done with Michael Newdow…
I spoke with him last month, and he’s not going anywhere. I also encourage anyone who might be able to help his case, to contact him. I offered to testify about egregious violations of student first amendment rights I’ve witnessed in my school district. It’s time to stand up to the theocratic bullies trying to destroy our Constitutional freedom FROM religion.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:16 am#4
Reinstating the Fairness Doctrine would allow all sides to be heard instead of the Conservative monopoly we have currently. Allowing more voices can’t logically be anti free speech.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:18 amThis is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:18 amI don’t know the ratio but I”ll guess Roberts , religious nut, Alito, religious nut, Thomas, religious nut and Scalia, off the charts, voted for keeping the Faith Based religious money grab.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:19 amI call the religious far-right in the US the American-Taliban. They want to force their sick dogma down our throats, but most of them are hypocrites who hire prostitutes for sex in secret.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:20 amWhat scares me most, is the concessions given to big business.
by the people for the people…
June 25th, 2007 at 11:21 amahhhh, the wonders of strict construction a.k.a. manipulate the constituion at will to serve the oligarchs and thoecrats.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:22 am.
#22 - I call far-left people like yourself traitors.
Your comment about the Taliban shows your ignorace and bigotry. I pray for your soul.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:23 amWhy does Roberts always look as if he’s just won the sixth-grade spelling bee? The photo with this blog looks like Opie and Alfred E. Neuman.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:24 amWell, what did I say about us having the SCOTUS in our pocket? Bush administration and DoJ will stonewall, stonewall and stonewall and eventually win by a Supreme Court decision. 5-4 most likely.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:24 amBetween this and comments from jesus-junkies like TP Hate Machine it’s clear: this country is no longer worth fighting for.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:24 amCall it the corporate-fascist Supreme Court now. Thank some retarded Democrats in the Senate for confirming Roberts and Alito.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:25 amunbelievable, you’ve got one too many
“THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION”,
only 4 judges on SCOTUS agree with you.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:25 am.
Plus these two lied when they said they would respect precedents.
Comment by trevjr — June 25, 2007 @ 11:09 am
I have come to the conclusion that in order to stay in the game, Republicans must talk like liberals, since the majority of people are progressive. After they are appointed, it is really too late to see that they don’t walk their talk, and do anything about it.
It’s how we wind up with these thugs in positions of authority - not just in politics - but in general.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:25 amI have long promoted the idea of bring Democracy to corporations. Presently, a corporation is ruled by the concept of one share/one vote. This is an idea that the GOP thinks applies to Congress as well and so you see them listen to citizens in direct ratio their bank account balance. I propose corporations be run by one shareholder/one vote. A radical concept.
Right now, small shareholders are treated like dirt. They have no voice and their share value is often sacrificed in mergers and acquistions by the big boys who pay each other enormous fees and bonuses. That ain’t right. Since when do managers act like entrepreneurs? They’re just bureaucrats and they measure success not by profits but by the size of the operation.
I say, if corporations are going to mess with democracy, we’d better bring democracy to the corporation. And let them look to their small shareholders.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:25 am“puh-leeze!!! Just suck it up. The left’s bloody grip on the Court is over.”
One thing about trolls — when they can’t rebut facts, they are reduced to taunts (and I outgrew those in grade school). I’m actually more interested in the right’s justification that funneling federal money towards faith-based groups isn’t a violation of the first amendment.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:26 amLOL TP Hate Machine > you deserve to burn in Hell for your hypocrisy.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:27 amDamn, stupid religious conservatives are in for a big surprise when they finally die and discover THERE IS NO GOD.
But since they have no conscious, I doubt they’ll discover the irony of their past, pathetic lives.
Heckuva job, neocons!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:28 amI pray for your soul.
Comment by TP Hate Machine — June 25, 2007 @ 11:23 am
Because that has done wonders for cancer patients and molested children?
Why don’t you go find a corner somewhere, and start now…
June 25th, 2007 at 11:29 amSeriously, if the slime on the religious right want this country…let them have it.
The Chinese are going to own it all within 20 years anyway. The jesus-junkies will finally have that “War On Christianity” they have been hoping for for so long. They’ll lose, of course.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:30 amwow
June 25th, 2007 at 11:30 amwhen it comes to the long term damage of republican rule, it is only the beginning.
Thank you Sandra Day O’Connor for F’ing America.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:30 am.
This just means it’s time to see which religious groups are getting the cash.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:33 amIt USED to be “By the people, for the people”…
now it’s just “by the cronies, for the cronies.”
June 25th, 2007 at 11:33 amTHP, you’re wrong, as is usually the case with conservatives. The Supreme Court until Bush 43 came along was for the most part guided by the constitution when handing down decisions. If you feel that previous courts were liberal, it is only so because American ideals are liberal, and these courts were defending and upholding the constitution. In fact, the founding fathers of this nation were liberal radicals and they left us with a liberal legacy. Unfortunately for the nation, conservative revisionists have been successful at rewriting history to influence public opinion and to begin to turn back the clock on liberty and the rule of law. The Roberts court, the present admistration, and the republican congress have used the constitution to wipe thier asses with. That, you idiot, is what you are heralding and celebrating. You are witnessing the dismantling of our constitution and you’re happy about it you stupid ass backward conservative.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:34 amThe big joke is on the religious freaks, because Roberts is a closeted Gay guy. When he gets exposed someday, then he might end up being the first Chief of the court to resign.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:34 amWhy does Roberts always look as if he’s just won the sixth-grade spelling bee? The photo with this blog looks like Opie and Alfred E. Neuman.
Comment by bogtrotters — June 25, 2007 @ 11:24 am
That’s funny!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:34 amThe last branch…bought and paid for…for decades to come.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:34 am#42: Uhh… right? Are you sure your gaydar is not malfunctioning?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:36 amunbelievable, you’ve got one too many
“THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATIONâ€,
only 4 judges on SCOTUS agree with you.
Comment by zoot — June 25, 2007 @ 11:25 am
LOL
These people have studied the Constitution, and the political history of our country. They know this isn’t a Christian Nation. Yet, like those extremist Muslims they claim to hate, they themselves are no better for trying to force their religion on others. It’s simply mental rape…
June 25th, 2007 at 11:36 amI call far-left people like yourself traitors.
Your comment about the Taliban shows your ignorace and bigotry. I pray for your soul.
Comment by TP Hate Machine
Right back at you traitor. And don’t bother praying for progressives here. You obviously wouldn’t know god if she was sitting on your lap.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:37 amBetween this and comments from jesus-junkies like TP Hate Machine it’s clear: this country is no longer worth fighting for.
Comment by Cobalt 90
You’re right. It’s time to start fighting “against” what we’ve become.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:38 amComment by MAF54
Well, we certainly KNOW your gaydar is quite accurate, you quirky gay-boy-lover you!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:39 amNo more bong hits for Jesus either. Damn.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:40 amSimply put….this is why elections matter!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:41 amHEY AMERICA!
BEND OVER AND FEEEEEL THE POWER OF JEZUUUSSS!!!!!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:41 amI have long promoted the idea of bring Democracy to corporations.
Comment by david — June 25, 2007 @ 11:25 am
Brilliant idea… But I bet it will go over as well as me trying to bring critical thinking skills to the public education system.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:42 am“I’m actually more interested in the right’s justification that funneling federal money towards faith-based groups isn’t a violation of the first amendment.”
Because religious groups are citizens with interests like anybody else. If La Raza (those crazy bums) can get our tax-payer dollars to run their hate machine, at least channeling money to a faith-based group is more dignified.
If the decision today barred any groups in this country - with the exception of Islamists - from receiving money, you’d all be jumping for joy. I think the new Supreme Court, thus far, is doing a good job.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:42 amWell shane, you can always go somewhere else.
Start your own commune.
Drink Cool-Aid.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:42 amMAF54 > LOL you better google Roberts as Gay and see what pops up. He had a pic taken of himself on holiday with 2 males showing off their food together. He got married as a cover, and adopted 2 kids, but he is Gay. I could care less if he was not a far-right religious hypocrite.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:43 amThe Chinese are going to own it all within 20 years anyway. The jesus-junkies will finally have that “War On Christianity†they have been hoping for for so long. They’ll lose, of course.
Comment by Cobalt 90 — June 25, 2007 @ 11:30 am
I wonder how the neocons justify being so deeply indebted to a country that is predominantly ATHEISTIC, and “COMMUNISTIC”… LOL
June 25th, 2007 at 11:43 amCoptroller, La Raza is not a hate machine you idiot. They advocate for equal rights for minorities you ignorant racist.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:44 amTP Hate Machine… Your name says it all. Far right extremists like you are the same sort who shoot abortion providers, blow up buildings like the Murrah Federal Building and beat and tie gay people to fences in rural Wyoming… leaving them to die. You have no relevance other than your insipid hatred for anything you are too feeble to understand. You serve no purpose on this planet other than to suck up oxygen. You are pathetic and sick.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:44 amNo more bong hits for Jesus either. Damn.
Comment by ForTruth — June 25, 2007 @ 11:40 am
I haven’t heard about that case lately - has there been any ruling on the matter?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:45 amI think the new Supreme Court, thus far, is doing a good job.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You’ll be living with them longer than most of us. I’d be interested in your opinion on this court in 30 years.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:45 am#49: Quirky?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:45 amCaption:
Roberts (thinking to himself):
“Five more minutes with this Doofus and I’m set for life…”
Doofus:
“Straighten out that camera, will ya?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:45 amPeople will start ta think ahm beginin’ to lean to the left!”
Well shane, you can always go somewhere else.
Start your own commune.
Drink Cool-Aid.
Comment by Happy Guy
Why? You neocons are the people who decided to destroy the Constitution and take away all the freedoms we’ve always enjoyed. You’re turning us into a third world nation where 1% of the population has all the wealth and everybody else is struggling to get by.
What was wrong with the USA that you people decided that it needed to be changed so dramatically?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:46 amNo more bong hits for Jesus either. Damn.
Comment by ForTruth — June 25, 2007 @ 11:40 am
Can I still take Bong Hits for JEEBUS???
June 25th, 2007 at 11:46 amthe supreme court also limited free speech in schools.
i hope all the justices stay healthy until we can get emperor cheney out of office.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:46 amComment by Happy Guy
The libecrats in here haven’t explained fundamentally how the decisions today are wrong. As expected, they’ve just repeated their usual jargon.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:47 amYep, Justice Roberts said the “bong hits for Jesus” sign was “cryptic” and the school principal was reasonable.
I’m with Shane. We can do bong hits for Jeebus now.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:48 amI think the new Supreme Court, thus far, is doing a good job.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 11:42 am
You also drink your own pee… What you think is hardly relevant.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:48 amIf we win in 2008, we’ll be able to increase the number of SCOTUS judges and appoint a couple of liberal judges. That should take care of the problem.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:49 amFaggy Guy,
June 25th, 2007 at 11:50 amYou mean, like one of those countries who DOESN’T keep sticking it’s head up it’s ass, and creating more terrorists like the U.S. is hellbent on? You mean a place that WASN’T, and HASN’T been attacked by extremists? Do you ever wonder why those places aren’t targets for terrorists?
Well, first, you’d have to pull your own head out of your ass and see if your brain didn’t stay in your behind. Or continue your idiotic, inbred blind servitude, and watch your ass get blown to pieces by your ‘leaders’ whims.
Stupid IS as stupid IS.
And if there’s anything worth salvaging here in America after the “Muslim-extremists” you helped create destroy it, Mexico and Canada could fight over us!
Professor Althouse notes, “the deniability is intact as ever. It’s just three men with a pie… and a mustache… and a glow.”
FRIKKIN HILARIOUS JAY RANDAL!!next you’ll be telling us that the military is trying to make a gay bomb or put frikkin lazers on frikkin shark-
oh, wait…
nevermind.. :)
June 25th, 2007 at 11:51 amtake a hit for me!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:52 amYep, Justice Roberts said the “bong hits for Jesus†sign was “cryptic†and the school principal was reasonable.
I’m with Shane. We can do bong hits for Jeebus now.
Comment by ForTruth — June 25, 2007 @ 11:48 am
“I’m not NOT licking toads…”
June 25th, 2007 at 11:53 amThe libecrats in here haven’t explained fundamentally how the decisions today are wrong.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 11:47 am
This is NOT a Christian Nation. That’s why.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:53 am“Coptroller, La Raza is not a hate machine you idiot. They advocate for equal rights for minorities you ignorant racist.”
Comment by dantheman
Yeah, that’s your jingle, isn’t it? What’s that song titled, “Decieving Happy Talk ™”?
La Raza should never be funded with tax-payers dollars, they’re not working on behalf of the ENTIRE public. But the Supreme Court hasn’t cut them off, right?
And please, put away your ____ist card for once. Do yourself a favor.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:53 amI didn’t know CompTroller drank his own Pee. That’s sick.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:54 am#70: That would not go down well politically. The public would see that as politicization of the judicial branch.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:54 am“This is NOT a Christian Nation. That’s why.”
Comment by unbelievable
It’s not an Islamic nation either, dim-wit. Don’t shovel your crap onto others.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:55 am“You also drink your own pee… What you think is hardly relevant.”
Comment by unbelievable
Liberals are all irrelevant. Pretty stupid, at that. Do America a favor and throw yourself off a bridge.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:57 amYep, Justice Roberts said the “bong hits for Jesus†sign was “cryptic†and the school principal was reasonable.
Comment by ForTruth — June 25, 2007 @ 11:48 am
Cryptic? So ‘cryptic’ speech isn’t free then? Where exactly does the First Amendment say that we have a right to free speech except when it is ‘cryptic’? And really - to whom is that cryptic outside of Roberts’ s pea brain?
That’s disgusting…
June 25th, 2007 at 11:57 amWhoops it was Whiteyfresh, not Shane, who had the idea of bong hits for Jeebus.
The Colorado river might have some nice toads to lick.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:58 amJustice Roberts needs to do a bong hit and think about it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 amDon’t shovel your crap onto others.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
And you should NOT sh*t where you eat.
i.e. don’t shovel religious fundamentalism fallacies onto others, stupid pig.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 am“You’ll be living with them longer than most of us. I’d be interested in your opinion on this court in 30 years.”
Yeah, you should sign-up for an automatic e-mail reminder that will notify you if the court starts to become loony again. It’ll help out with your busy libetrolling schedule.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 ami.e. don’t shovel religious fundamentalism fallacies onto others, stupid pig.
Comment by Not Canadian
Religious groups are interest groups, too. The court’s decision circumvented your loonies, thank God.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:01 pmI didn’t know CompTroller drank his own Pee. That’s sick.
Comment by ForTruth — June 25, 2007 @ 11:54 am
Yeah… There’s a video of him in circulation on the internet. You might have seen it. Chimp drinking from a stream of his own urine? He alsois known for the video of stratch and sniffing his own rear-end, and then falling off a tree from the repulsion of his own odor.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:02 pmOMG Unbelievable,
June 25th, 2007 at 12:03 pmIt’s not an Islamic nation either, dim-wit.
Exactly. It’s a SECULAR nation in trillions of debt to an ATHEIST and COMMUNIST nation… LOL
Don’t shovel your crap onto others.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 11:55 am
I just quoted the Constitution… You’re calling the Bill of Rights crap, eh? Figures…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:04 pmI have that video of the Chimp drinking his own pee, I’ve had it for like 5 years. It’s a classic. LOL
June 25th, 2007 at 12:04 pmI’m with Shane. We can do bong hits for Jeebus now.
Comment by ForTruth
Did I say that? I must have had a hit I don’t remember. But if you think it will help, I’m there with you.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:06 pmIf the likes of Comptroller and every other friggin’ chimp wanna flush this country down the drain, so be it. I know how to swim.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:07 pmThe court’s decision circumvented your loonies, thank God.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
Which Supreme Court justice are you considering to be your god?
Won’t Jesus get jealous?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:07 pmwow, if the Trolls here had the same passion, but weren’t acting like total idiots, there could be some REAL debate here…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:07 pmReligious groups are interest groups, too.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
One thing your small mind needs to grasp:
THE
SEPARATION
OF
CHURCH
AND
STATE.
Look it up, it’s in this crazy thing called the U.S. Constitution. It’s totally wild man!!!! Go for it, you might *gulp* learn sum-thin’.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:07 pmSorry Shane it was WhiteyFresh.
Without a picture of people in here, I sometimes get a couple of you mixed up. I’m more visual. That’s my excuse.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:08 pmComment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 11:42 am
You also drink your own pee… What you think is hardly relevant.
Comment by unbelievable
Why so hard on PoopTROLLER V-8, it’s all he can afford to drink on his troll salary. He believes that deferred payment crap Rove’s office feeds him.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:08 pmThe ‘Master Plan’ is almost complete. With the OVP declaring itself free from the constitution, and the SCOTUS invalidating the bill of rights, it’s only a matter of time before martial law is declared and the nukes fall on Iran. All hail The End Times. Is there no on who can save this country from these criminals? I thought not.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:08 pmOMG Unbelievable,
Comment by ForTruth — June 25, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
If we can’t educate them or chase them away with facts, might as well have fun with them whack-a-troll style :D
June 25th, 2007 at 12:09 pmIs there no on who can save this country from these criminals?
Comment by david
I’m hugging my AR-15 right now…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:10 pm“I just quoted the Constitution… You’re calling the Bill of Rights crap, eh? Figures…”
Comment by unbelievable
No, you interpreted the Constitution from left-leaning viewpoint, the problem with posters here. And if I decide to view the Constitution centrally, it doesn’t mean I am knocking the Bill of Rights. Interest groups receive funding, religious ones are no different.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:11 pmHe believes that deferred payment crap Rove’s office feeds him.
Comment by shane — June 25, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
Oh, call it psychological curiosity… :D
He also believes in Santa Claus, the toothfairy and invisible sky daddies that help him find his lost car keys… He’s not one for critical thought.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:12 pmHmm… faith-based funding is ok? Can I fund my local Taliban group without being hassled, then? I promise no money will go to women.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:12 pm“I’m not NOT licking toads…â€
Comment by whiteyfresh
Just keep those toads happy, whitey. :)
June 25th, 2007 at 12:12 pm“I’m not NOT licking toads…â€
Comment by whiteyfresh
Why, they’re tasty? And cheap. Or are you talking about me? sniff…sniff
June 25th, 2007 at 12:14 pm“Why so hard on PoopTROLLER V-8, it’s all he can afford to drink on his troll salary. He believes that deferred payment crap Rove’s office feeds him.”
Comment by shane
What a justifiable rebuttal to today’s ruling. There’s a conservative slant, I think you should respect it, just how I stood back and respected Clinton’s overrated presidency. I didn’t waste my time complaining mercilessly.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:14 pmInterest groups receive funding, religious ones are no different.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Separation of church and state.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:14 pmI’m more visual. That’s my excuse.
Comment by ForTruth
heehee!
visualizing packin up another one?
POPStar(TM)!! what’s happenig?
Have YOU had your Bong Hit for JEEBUS today?
;)
June 25th, 2007 at 12:16 pmNo, you interpreted the Constitution from left-leaning viewpoint
Yeah - teh Founding Fathers. They clearly stated in many places, including the Treaty of Tripoli that this is NOT a Christian Nation, and that there is a clear intention of the separation of church and state. They wrote and they defined it as I’ve stated. It’s your side that keeps trying to re-define it into something it was never intended.
And if I decide to view the Constitution centrally, it doesn’t mean I am knocking the Bill of Rights. Interest groups receive funding, religious ones are no different.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
But you aren’t viewing it centrally - you are viewing it extremistly.
It’s not about equal funding, but about unequal funding an promotion by eliminating alternative choices. That is why we are so angry about this decision. It’s setting up a monopoly where the Bill of Rights insisted one never exist.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:16 pmI didn’t waste my time complaining mercilessly.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You didn’t care, you were playing The Legend of Zelda and trading Pokemon cards.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:16 pm“He also believes in Santa Claus, the toothfairy and invisible sky daddies that help him find his lost car keys… He’s not one for critical thought.”
Comment by unbelievable
You must have a narcissistic personality. I’m for critical thought, just not loony thought. You make the crazy mistake of taking your views too seriously.
Grow up.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:16 pmLiberals are all irrelevant. Pretty stupid, at that. Do America a favor and throw yourself off a bridge.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
How about we throw you off a bridge instead DungTROLLER?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:17 pmPOPStar(TM)!! what’s happenig?
Have YOU had your Bong Hit for JEEBUS today?
;)
Comment by whiteyfresh
Hey whitey, good weekend?
I knew my day got off on the wrong foot — no bong hit for Jeebus yet. :D
June 25th, 2007 at 12:18 pmHmm… faith-based funding is ok? Can I fund my local Taliban group without being hassled, then? I promise no money will go to women.
Comment by El Tonno — June 25, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Yeah, I wonder how readily they would hand me money for an Atheist-based initiative to promote life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all people? LOL
June 25th, 2007 at 12:18 pm>> I didn’t waste my time complaining mercilessly (during Clinton)
>> Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
That’s probably because there were less Internets back then, right?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:19 pmYou didn’t care, you were playing The Legend of Zelda and trading Pokemon cards.
Comment by Zooey
That’s right, I didn’t care. I recognized even then that Clinton was a controversial and scandal-plagued President, yet I didn’t care about my own parent’s babbling against him because I knew there was an obligation to respect the office of the President.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:19 pmThat’s probably because there were less Internets back then, right?
Comment by El Tonno
The internet has nothing to do with the topic here, Mr. Taco.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:21 pmJohn Paul Stevens will be retiring this Friday. It was always his intention to be replaced by the party who appointed him and insiders say he probably believes Bush would have not have the political capital to replace him with a conservative.
My guess is Bush will die trying. Force Democrats to play their hand if they have won.
Finally, the liberal reign of terror over the Courts is OVER.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:21 pmMr. Taco.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Ah, the racism of the far right, SO predictable…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:22 pmHmm… faith-based funding is ok? Can I fund my local Taliban group without being hassled, then? I promise no money will go to women.
Comment by El Tonno
Then why is the ACLU and La Raza still in business? ACLU advocates opening gates to terrorists and releasing child molesters, probably for their own amusement.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pmYou must have a narcissistic personality.
Because I want all Americans to be free from religion as the First Amendment decrees? You need an English dictionary to lookup words you obviously don’t understand.
I’m for critical thought, just not loony thought. You make the crazy mistake of taking your views too seriously.
I’m the one making pee jokes, clearly I’m taking everything too seriously…
You’re clearly unable to debate the issue, since you wouldn’t know critical thinking skills if they bit you in your rather sizable arse… It’s why you pitch these temper tantrums instead of debating the issues.
Grow up.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
LOL… Yeah, and I’m too serious… LOL
June 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pmThis is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
This is NOT a Christian Nation.
Comment by unbelievable
You are right, just 80-90% of it is.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pmThat’s right, I didn’t care. I recognized even then that Clinton was a controversial and scandal-plagued President, yet I didn’t care about my own parent’s babbling against him because I knew there was an obligation to respect the office of the President.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
You’re a good little robot, aren’t you?
Later.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pmComment by Not Canadian
Who are you to talk? Liberals invented the “Oreo” slur, dingleberry.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:24 pmFinally, the liberal reign of terror over the Courts is OVER.
Comment by TP Hate Machine
Yeah, it’s real terrorism to uphold the Constitution for all Americans.
Oops! I’m late for my abortion — tooooodles!
June 25th, 2007 at 12:25 pmComment by Zooey
“You’re a good little robot, aren’t you?”
“Later.”
Nothing like a liberal oldie youth-basher. So articulate.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:26 pmWho are you to talk?
Who am I to talk? I’m your worst f*cking nightmare, chickensh*tter.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:28 pmI’m just pointing out YOUR racism. It’s yours, you own it, stupid old fart.
Liberals invented THIS COUNTRY, so why don’t you Conservative whore’s GET THE F*CK OUT first.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:30 pmComment by unbelievable
You make an accusation, I’m going to respond. You give broken-record responses to every person you debate here, so get some new material. I’m not a full-grow adult making “drink pee” jokes.
Adult liberals can no longer be role models. Tragic.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:31 pmYou are right, just 80-90% of it is.
Comment by yep — June 25, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Wrong. This is a secular nation.
Christians are only about 65-70% of the population, by the way… and, according to your idol O’Reilly, that number is decreasing as Atheism increases. Deal with it…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:33 pmInteresting what the CNN homepage has to say right now about this big news event…..nothing.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:33 pmWhoops it was Whiteyfresh, not Shane, who had the idea of bong hits for Jeebus.
The Colorado river might have some nice toads to lick.
Comment by ForTruth
Whew, for a minute I thought I was having an acid flashback!
June 25th, 2007 at 12:33 pmOops! I’m late for my abortion — tooooodles!
Comment by Zooey — June 25, 2007 @ 12:25 pm
LOL
June 25th, 2007 at 12:34 pmWho am I to talk? I’m your worst f*cking nightmare, chickensh*tter.
I’m just pointing out YOUR racism. It’s yours, you own it, stupid old fart.
Comment by Not Canadian
Yes, take your liberal Jeopardy somewhere else. While your at it, stay out of the workforce, co-workers don’t need your socialist speak. Go learn to match a word properly with its definition.
Conservatives, thankfully, are getting rid of that conservative “worst f*cking nightmare.” It’s dwindling. We are a conservative nation.
______ist.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:34 pmTHE
SEPARATION
OF
CHURCH
AND
STATE.
Look it up, it’s in this crazy thing called the U.S. Constitution. It’s totally wild man!!!! Go for it, you might *gulp* learn sum-thin’.
Comment by Not Canadian
Separation of chruch and state does not appear in the constitution anyplace.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:36 pmWithout a picture of people in here, I sometimes get a couple of you mixed up. I’m more visual. That’s my excuse.
Comment by ForTruth
I wish I was Whiteyfresh. He has way more fun than I do.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:36 pmREALLY yep?
Gee, seems like the Bill of Rights is PART OF THE CONSTITUTION.
God, no wonder Neocons can’t govern worth a sh*t!!!
June 25th, 2007 at 12:37 pmYou give broken-record responses to every person you debate here, so get some new material.
Are you crying or kicking the dog out of rage and jealousy now?
Your problem if you consider the truth a broken record….
I’m not a full-grow adult making “drink pee†jokes.
Who is too serious again? LOL
Adult liberals can no longer be role models. Tragic.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
Because we have a sense of humor? You need therapy…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:38 pmTHE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
R.I.P.
Born: July 4, 1776
Died: December 12, 2000*
* Bush v. Gore, United States Supreme Court case decision December 12, 2000
June 25th, 2007 at 12:39 pmWrong. This is a secular nation.
Christians are only about 65-70% of the population, by the way… and, according to your idol O’Reilly, that number is decreasing as Atheism increases. Deal with it…
Comment by unbelievable
According to the last census it was 79.8%.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:40 pmYou are right, just 80-90% of it is.
Comment by yep — June 25, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Even if only ONE American citizen was a non-Christian, our Constitution still guarantees us freedom from religion. It is not a numbers game, it is a matter of fairness. Something our trolls know nothing about.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:40 pmSeparation of chruch and state does not appear in the constitution anyplace.
Comment by yep — June 25, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
It’s the First Amendment…
And while it doesn’t say that exact phrase, the people who wrote the original Amendments have clarified that that IS its intent.
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qjeffson.htm
Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State
–Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Danbury Baptists, 1802.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:42 pmWhat a justifiable rebuttal to today’s ruling. There’s a conservative slant, I think you should respect it, just how I stood back and respected Clinton’s overrated presidency. I didn’t waste my time complaining mercilessly.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Ahahahaha, ahahahaa, gasp, ahahahaha, chuckle, gasp, ahahaha. So you’re saying, wait you’re cracking me up, gasp, that you neocons stood back and respected Clinton. Ahahahaha, priceless, you’re a funny guy CornTROLLER.
Oh right, you were what 15, six years ago? How is your “treatment” of Clinton relevant?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:42 pmNothing like a liberal oldie youth-basher. So articulate.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
I’m not bashing your youth, CT, I’m bashing your robotic thinking.
I respect the OFFICE of the president, but I don’t stop thinking at that point.
I would like for everyone to pay the lowest possible taxes, but I don’t stop thinking at that point.
I would like every person in this country to take personal responsibility like I do, but I don’t stop thinking at that point.
Get my drift?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:42 pmREALLY yep?
Gee, seems like the Bill of Rights is PART OF THE CONSTITUTION.
God, no wonder Neocons can’t govern worth a sh*t!!!
Comment by Not Canadian
Where in the Bill of Rights is separation of church and state? It isn’t, you are an idiot if you think otherwise.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:42 pm“Are you crying or kicking the dog out of rage and jealousy now?”
You’re only proving my point with your projecting.
“Your problem if you consider the truth a broken record….”
Again, projecting.
“Who is too serious again? LOL”
It’s not about having/not having a sense of humor. It’s about injecting disgusting projection into regular debate.
“Because we have a sense of humor? You need therapy…”
No, because you set the example by complaining mercilessly and conveying to the younger ones to be happy about nothing, complain until it’s “perfect.”
June 25th, 2007 at 12:44 pmAgain yep, if you’ve got a brain, now is the time to use it.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:45 pmFrom unbe #141:
According to the last census it was 79.8%.
Comment by yep — June 25, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
That was 2000. This is 2007. Considering Christianity is declining, my numbers are closer to what is now than your statement of 80-90%.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:46 pmWho are you to talk? Liberals invented the “Oreo†slur, dingleberry.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Do you have a link for that wild ass piece of bullshit or are you still making things up.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:47 pm… but like most Repukes, go ahead and IGNORE what the framers had in mind when interpreting the Constitution, douchey-douche-baggers…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:47 pmIt’s the First Amendment…
And while it doesn’t say that exact phrase, the people who wrote the original Amendments have clarified that that IS its intent.
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qjeffson.htm
Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,†thus building a wall of separation between Church and State
–Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Danbury Baptists, 1802.
Comment by unbelievable
This is one letter by Thomas Jefferson, the first amendment does not say anything about separation. The first amendment in regards to religion gives anybody the free excercise of religion, nowhere does it put a wall between church and state.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:48 pmOops! I’m late for my abortion — tooooodles!
Comment by Zooey
How many years late is CompTROLLER’s mother?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:48 pmThat was 2000. This is 2007. Considering Christianity is declining, my numbers are closer to what is now than your statement of 80-90%.
Comment by unbelievable
Any stats to back that up?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:49 pmAdult liberals can no longer be role models. Tragic.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
Right. But you believe Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaught, Bill O’Reilly are role models. You poor misguided infant.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:51 pmYou’re only proving my point with your projecting.
You point is that you cannot engage in intelligent dialog, so you resort to temper tantrums too? Well, thee we agree.
“Your problem if you consider the truth a broken record….â€
Again, projecting.
That wasn’t even coherent.
It’s not about having/not having a sense of humor. It’s about injecting disgusting projection into regular debate.
Then why do you insist on doing it of you don’t likeit so much? I know you cons are into voting against your own self-interests, so perhaps that explains it?
No, because you set the example by complaining mercilessly and conveying to the younger ones to be happy about nothing, complain until it’s “perfect.â€
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 25, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
As opposed to tolerating the Nazi’s putting a sizable number of your countrymen into gulags? You really don’t understand the danger in what these people are doing. And we’re not ‘whining’, we are pointing it out for the sake of informing the masses - just as our forefathers wrote and distributed pamphlets in their time.
If you don’t like it here, then leave. As I told your just sayin’ pal yesterday - you cannot change other people… You can only control yourself. Start there. You have a lot to work on, and should stop wasting your time here trying to force others to be what you want them to be…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:53 pmAccording to the last census it was 79.8%.
Comment by yep
That’s people who are listed as Christians on their birth certificates. Not people who walk around saying “Have you accepted Jesus as you personal savior?” Christians or fundie loonies as other Christians call them.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:54 pm“Right. But you believe Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaught, Bill O’Reilly are role models. You poor misguided infant.”
Comment by shane
I’m sure your projection gets you all warm and toasty inside.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI’m sure your projection gets you all warm and toasty inside.
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1
What exactly does this sentence mean? Nothing? If you have something to say, say it. If you don’t, then why post.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:59 pmThis is one letter by Thomas Jefferson, the first amendment does not say anything about separation.
There’s more if you’ll stop being lazy and bother to educate yourself. Must we always do the work for you?
Actually, yes it does.
The first amendment in regards to religion gives anybody the free excercise of religion, nowhere does it put a wall between church and state.
Comment by yep — June 25, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
You just skip over the part about the government making no establishment of religion then? What do you think that part means? Thomas Jefferson wrote it, and then explained it. You can choose to ignore the facts, but doing so makes you lose any and all credibility in the matter.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:59 pmHahahahaha! Sucks to be a leftie!
June 25th, 2007 at 1:01 pmSupreme court decisions regarding the separation of church and state, arranged by date:
McCollum v. Board of Education Dist. 71, 333 U.S. 203 (1948)
Court finds religious instruction in public schools a violation of the establishment clause and therefore unconstitutional.
Burstyn v. Wilson, 72 S. Ct. 777 (1952)
Government may not censor a motion picture because it is offensive to religious beliefs.
Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488 (1961)
Court holds that the state of Maryland can not require applicants for public office to swear that they believed in the existence of God. The court unanimously rules that a religious test violates the Establishment Clause.
Engel v. Vitale, 82 S. Ct. 1261 (1962)
Any kind of prayer, composed by public school districts, even nondenominational prayer, is unconstitutional government sponsorship of religion.
Abington School District v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203 (1963)
Court finds Bible reading over school intercom unconstitutional and Murray v. Curlett, 374 U.S. 203 (1963) - Court finds forcing a child to participate in Bible reading and prayer unconstitutional.
Epperson v. Arkansas, 89 S. Ct. 266 (1968)
State statue banning teaching of evolution is unconstitutional. A state cannot alter any element in a course of study in order to promote a religious point of view. A state’s attempt to hide behind a nonreligious motivation will not be given credence unless that state can show a secular reason as the foundation for its actions.
Lemon v. Kurtzman, 91 S. Ct. 2105 (1971)
Established the three part test for determining if an action of government violates First Amendment’s separation of church and state: 1) the government action must have a secular purpose; 2) its primary purpose must not be to inhibit or to advance religion; 3) there must be no excessive entanglement between government and religion.
Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980)
Court finds posting of the Ten Commandments in schools unconstitutional.
Wallace v. Jaffree, 105 S. Ct. 2479 (1985)
State’s moment of silence at public school statute is unconstitutional where legislative record reveals that motivation for statute was the encouragement of prayer. Court majority silent on whether “pure” moment of silence scheme, with no bias in favor of prayer or any other mental process, would be constitutional.
Edwards v. Aquillard, 107 S. Ct. 2573 (1987)
Unconstitutional for state to require teaching of “creation science” in all instances in which evolution is taught. Statute had a clear religious motivation.
Allegheny County v. ACLU, 492 U.S. 573 (1989)
Court finds that a nativity scene displayed inside a government building violates the Establishment Clause.
Lee v. Weisman, 112 S. Ct. 2649 (1992)
Unconstitutional for a school district to provide any clergy to perform nondenominational prayer at elementary or secondary school graduation. It involves government sponsorship of worship. Court majority was particularly concerned about psychological coercion to which children, as opposed to adults, would be subjected, by having prayers that may violate their beliefs recited at their graduation ceremonies.
Church of Lukumi Babalu Ave., Inc. v. Hialeah, 113 S. Ct. 2217 (1993)
June 25th, 2007 at 1:01 pmCity’s ban on killing animals for religious sacrifices, while allowing sport killing and hunting, was unconstitutional discrimination against the Santeria religion.
That’s people who are listed as Christians on their birth certificates. Not people who walk around saying “Have you accepted Jesus as you personal savior?†Christians or fundie loonies as other Christians call them.
Comment by shane
According to this Newsweek poll less than 3 years ago, “Seventy-nine percent of Americans believe that, as the Bible says, Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary, without a human father, according to a new NEWSWEEK poll on beliefs about Jesus.”
“… 82 percent believe Jesus Christ was God or the Son of God”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6650997/site/newsweek/
June 25th, 2007 at 1:02 pmAccording to this Newsweek poll less than 3 years ago, “Seventy-nine percent of Americans believe that, as the Bible says, Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary, without a human father, according to a new NEWSWEEK poll on beliefs about Jesus.â€
“… 82 percent believe Jesus Christ was God or the Son of Godâ€
Comment by yep
That doesn’t make the US a christian nation, it simply means that christians live here.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:05 pm#81
You don’t have free speech in a school. Get over it.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:05 pmAny stats to back that up?
Comment by yep — June 25, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Since when isn’t Bill O’Reilly good enough for you trolls?
Polling data from the 2001 ARIS study, described below, indicate that:
81% of American adults identify themselves with a specific religion:
76.5% (159 million) of Americans identify themselves as Christian. This is a major slide from 86.2% in 1990. Identification with Christianity has suffered a loss of 9.7 percentage points in 11 years — about 0.9 percentage points per year. This decline is identical to that observed in Canada between 1981 and 2001. If this trend has continued, then: at the present time (2007-MAY), only 71% of American adults consider themselves Christians, and the percentage will dip below 70% in 2008
By about the year 2042, non-Christians will outnumber the Christians in the U.S.
52% of Americans identified themselves as Protestant.
24.5% are Roman Catholic.
1.3% are Jewish.
0.5% are Muslim, followers of Islam.
The fastest growing religion (in terms of percentage) is Wicca. They totaled 21,080 members in 1991, an increase of 281% from 1990.
14.1% do not follow any organized religion. This is an unusually rapid increase — almost a doubling — from only 8% in 1990. There are more Americans who say they are not affiliated with any organized religion than there are Episcopalians, Methodists, and Lutherans taken together.
The unaffiliated vary from a low of 3% in North Dakota to 25% in Washington State. “The six states with the highest percentage of people saying they have no religion are all Western states, with the exception of Vermont at 22%.”
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
June 25th, 2007 at 1:05 pmA USA Today/Gallup Poll in 2002-JAN showed that almost half of American adults appear to be alienated from organized religion. If current trends continue, most adults will not call themselves religious within a few years. Results include:
About 50% consider themselves religious (down from 54% in 1999-DEC)
June 25th, 2007 at 1:06 pmAbout 33% consider themselves “spiritual but not religious” (up from 30%)
About 10% regard themselves as neither spiritual or religious
John Paul Stevens will be retiring this Friday. It was always his intention to be replaced by the party who appointed him and insiders say he probably believes Bush would have not have the political capital to replace him with a conservative.
Only if God retires him.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:07 pm“You point is that you cannot engage in intelligent dialog, so you resort to temper tantrums too? Well, thee we agree.”
Again, you’re a projecting crazed woman. Who should care what you think? You’re a freakin’ hate-monger.
“That wasn’t even coherent. ”
Of course it was. You are projecting. It’s as simple as that.
“Then why do you insist on doing it of you don’t likeit so much? I know you cons are into voting against your own self-interests, so perhaps that explains it?”
What, exactly, are you talking about? Insist on what? Provide evidence to back up your assertion.
“As opposed to tolerating the Nazi’s putting a sizable number of your countrymen into gulags? You really don’t understand the danger in what these people are doing. And we’re not ‘whining’, we are pointing it out for the sake of informing the masses - just as our forefathers wrote and distributed pamphlets in their time. ”
You are pushing your politically-tinged version of history on younger generations. “Islam is good, Christianity is bad.” The masses SHOULD NOT be informed of your apparent hate speech. It’s not good for the country because your presentation of “hate” is limited.
“If you don’t like it here, then leave. As I told your just sayin’ pal yesterday - you cannot change other people… You can only control yourself. Start there. You have a lot to work on, and should stop wasting your time here trying to force others to be what you want them to be…”
Liberals indoctrinate the children with their slanted crap. They’re effectively molding, changing them for worse. The intent isn’t to change the ideology of crazed liberals, it is to push them aside, contain them so they don’t hurt anyone else with their deceiving propaganda. Conservatives are in it to challenge them and ensure they don’t get the level of power (bad for the country) they desire. We aren’t going anywhere, we are here to stay.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThe Dems should have considered the long term damage that Alito and Roberts would cause. They should have used every tactic to stop these two. Plus these two lied when they said they would respect precedents. I also do not know why some of the judges did not quit while Clinton was president.
There’s no law saying nominees have to tell the truth.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThe SC has become SO packed with Conserative cronies that put ideology before the Constitution, it will be DECADES before balance is restored to the court.
Comment by Mugsy — June 25,