Vote to defund Cheney’s office to be held this week.
Reacting to the Office of the Vice President’s assertion that it is not an “entity within the executive branch,” Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) announced that he will introduce an amendment to cut off funding to Cheney’s office. Emanuel discussed the legislation on MSNBC tonight:
[Cheney] is acting like he’s unaccountable to anybody…and he’s taking an unbelievable step saying he’s not a member of the executive branch, he’s a member of the legislative branch, therefore he doesn’t have to provide information. … So I said, If that’s your logic, then we shouldn’t be funding you through the executive branch. Either Wednesday or Thursday my amendment will be on the floor, because the funding for the executive branch is on the floor. And I’ll strike the money for the Vice President’s Office. He can live off the Senate presidency budget that funds him up here. And that’s fine. But if he’s going to be funded in the executive branch, he complies with the rules that apply to everybody. He is not above the rules of the executive branch.
Watch the segment:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:33 pmHOT!
Whip the sucker’s ass.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:36 pmImpeachment amendment would be better!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:38 pmThink Congress will have the balls to defund Dick?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:38 pmDo not mess with Dick Cheney he is Chuck Norris good!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:41 pmFor God’s sake, someone please give Cheney a blowjob already so we can impeach and convict him!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:41 pmI don’t give congress a prayer, but I like this. And by the way; PRIMVS INTER PARES, why must you shout?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:42 pmWe have a illegal immigration problem in this country that is out of control and this is what these idiots are concentrating on?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:42 pmWay to go Rahm! Stick it to him.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:42 pmI volunteer to blow Cheney so we can impeach him!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:43 pmthis isn’t a joke. Dick Cheney has effectively overthrown our government and become a government unto himself. He has set policies, determined laws, caused people to be tortured, outed CIA agents and declared himself above and beyond our laws.
This is no laughing matter. THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:43 pmComment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 25, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
PRIMVS INTER PARES, why do you hate my eyeballs?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:43 pmCheney wanted a fight, and the Dems are about to give him one.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:44 pmIt’s a Dick-tatorship!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:44 pmThis would be the a great first step. Then, Chaney would have to abide by the rules of the Senete ethics and they could rail him there.
He made himself a government of one. Fan-friggin-tastic!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:45 pmComment by foolme1ns — June 25, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Absolutely correct! This is serious. Imagine if kickback-taking, tax-evading, former human being and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew tried to do this?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:45 pmSorry guys, it was just too funny.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:45 pmComment by marie — June 25, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
You don’t have to go that far. A girl can only be asked to do so much for her country. Let the DC Madam do it instead.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:46 pmPremise, meet conclusion. Excellent.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:46 pmAnd this was from a Chaney spokeswoman:
A few media outlest picked up on Rahm Emanuel’s idea of defunding Dick Chaney’s office as part of the executive-branch appropriations. “The vice president needs to make a decision,†Emanuel said. Lea Anne McBride, a Chaney spokesperson, said Emanuel “can either deal with the serious issues facing our country or create more partisian politics.â€
June 25th, 2007 at 7:47 pm#8, We do NOT have an immigration problem. That’s just the wedge issue of the day. Don’t worry, I’m sure the righties will find some other minority group to pick on soon.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:48 pmCut the funds and then throw his sorry butt out the door! Adios, Darth!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:49 pmRahm it to him, Emmanuel!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:49 pmWayne, if blowing Chaney would get him impeached, I’d take one for the country.
I always needed a blue dress. (wink)
June 25th, 2007 at 7:49 pmI await the argument opposing the amendment. It will be doubleplusungood.
But I suggest amending Kucinich’s Bill of Impeachment as the better alternative.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:50 pmAnd, the only immigration problem we have that despite our supposed attack on 911, this dumkoff still has the borders WIDE OPEN!! Is that some sort of sicko joke or what?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:50 pmRahm-n-noodles should Emanually run along to hell.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:50 pm#24 You’d have to pay a hooker a million dollars and promise to use double bags! nyuk! Only a true eejit would even look his way.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmRahm is short sighted…and silly.
Cheney would love to see his paycheck cut…
He will have a list of lobbyists who are willing to foot the bill for him and give him a nice place to stay; and with Rahm resolution,Cheney will have a nice ‘excuse’…
What they need to do is to enforce the laws in the books..but not to pay Cheney a ‘Government check’ will not solve anything.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmCan’t Rahm think of anything better than that..?!
… I’ll strike the money for the Vice President’s Office. He can live off the Senate presidency budget that funds him up here. And that’s fine. But if he’s going to be funded in the executive branch, he complies with the rules that apply to everybody. He is not above the rules of the executive branch. -RE
darth don’t need your stinkin’ budgeted funds…
he don’t need to comply wit’ nutn’.
…
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmWassamattu, CT V_1? Truth hitting a little too close to home. WAH WAH WAH!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmDo not mess with Dick Cheney he is Chuck Norris good!
Comment by Flaco — June 25, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Yeah, if Chuck Norris was old gray haggard and had a pace maker. Cheney is just a Dick, nothing else.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pm#25 I understand that Kucinich’s move toward Cheney impeachment is gathering steam…on both sides of the aisle. After all, the sooner the GOP candidates rid themselves of the “Bush/Cheney Curse”, the more traction they may get in their tanking campaigns.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:52 pmCan’t wait to see this non-binding legislation. But shouldn’t we table it until September? That is the “new and improved Democrat” M.O., right?
Just more political theatre to divert attention and focus from the hundreds of thousands of MURDERS that we just cannot figure out how to stop perpetrating. If only we could focus on a solutio….ooh, look, Hillary did something!
Dolts.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:52 pmUhm, Chuck Norris is kinda old and haggard, IMHO.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:52 pmI think the GOP needs to “cut their losses” at this point. More horrendous stuff is on it’s way out about Cheney & Bush and the more damaging facts which are released, the more probable that the GOP will become a thing of the past.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:53 pmThe Demmie-farts are getting too creative for my liking. I’m sure PiP had his cyber-laugh for the day.
Rahm, pick up your Emmy-cratic award!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:53 pmI volunteer to blow Cheney so we can impeach him!
Comment by marie — June 25, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
o my gawd, marie - have you SEEN that thing??? …
June 25th, 2007 at 7:53 pmwow, you have my deepest respect!
.
You don’t have to go that far. A girl can only be asked to do so much for her country. Let the DC Madam do it instead.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 25, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
She did and that is why her story was buried buy ABC. But, she is sending the list of names to every news outlet and blog, so that others can see exactly who’s name is on that list.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:54 pmSpudge….yep, he’s The Dick Cheney. That’s becoming increasingly obvious. A true underworld character dressed up in sunday finest, pimping the country with that trademark smirk on his face. Ever notice where the third finger of his hand happens to be?? Under the table, giving it to everyone!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:54 pmIf there’s a weasel in the White House, it’s Chaney. He’s sneaky, cunning and ‘lies like a rug. He’s accountable to no one, and is actually running this country. Cut his funding, then impeach, the SOB. He needs jail time.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:55 pmDefunding the war would have been a better use of all that dry powder you’ve been accumulating, Rahm. Cheney can just live off residuals.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:55 pmAnd the next time he steps onto the Senate floor, some one should give him a kick in the nuts, while the Dem caucus chants “Go Fu(k Yourself” in gregorian.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:55 pmIf they manage to defund Dick (not going to happen), what will that accomplish. In a way, it’d just be tacit approval for whatever Dick do.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:56 pm“Do not mess with Dick Cheney he is Chuck Norris good!
Comment by Flaco ”
What is it with neoconidiots and washed up hack actors?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:57 pmMaybe Lynne Cheney needs to really find out what Pam Willeford (Cheney’s concubine Swiss Miss) was doing out on the ranch riding shotgun when Cheney shot his friend in the face???
June 25th, 2007 at 7:57 pmLet’s “Rahm ‘em all” where the sun don’t shine! They’ve all got it coming…comuppence can be a bitch, they say!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmNOW you’re talking Rahm.
NOW you’ve got my attention.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmWhat’s the Bobett chick doing these day’s.? Wonder if she’s up for a good recruting job from us….Now that’s who should be in charge of taking care of cheney….Then we could call him unich cheney….LOL…Blessings
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmLea Anne McBride, a Chaney spokesperson, said
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pm“You can’t do that! I’ll be out of a phoney baloney job!”
And I BET you got Cheney’s too.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmComment by MsJoanne
Well, yah. I’m HA! HA! HA!-ing so hard, I’m WAH! WAH! WAH!-ing.
Rahm will be nominated for his performance, rest assured.
The Senate needs more toilet paper, so this hopefully should pass Nancy’s strictly accountable House of Rahmpresentatives.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmGo get ‘em, but maybe you could also IMPEACH the criminal.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmIf he’s not a member of the executive branch then he has no protection under executive prividelge, right? go after the facist bastard.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:59 pmThis is the smartest move I’ve seen yet from the dems.
This is a good, good idea.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:00 pmWassamattu, CT V_1? Truth hitting a little too close to home. WAH WAH WAH!
Comment by MsJoanne
Why, yes, the truth is hitting close to home - my suspicions have been confirmed: your party is more loony than I ever though possible.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:01 pmI volunteer to blow Cheney so we can impeach him!
Comment by marie
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You will have to beat Zooey, she called it first!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:02 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/constitution
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pmThis is so COOL I can’t hardly stand it!!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pmI can’t believe we’re sitting being told by the VP that he’s not part of the executive. This is just flat surreal.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pmWhy, yes, the truth is hitting close to home - my suspicions have been confirmed: your party is more loony than I ever though possible.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
Yeah, crazy people always think it is the other guy.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pm“We have a illegal immigration problem in this country that is out of control and this is what these idiots are concentrating on?
Comment by michael”
…and how long have we had an illegal immigration problem? 20 years? 30 years?
How long have we had a vice president creating a constitutional crisis?
I think we can afford a few more weeks/months of a chronic immigration problem to try to head off a rogue vice president in the interest of constitutional integrity.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pmIf he’s not a member of the executive branch then he has no protection under executive prividelge, right? go after the facist bastard.
Comment by Bob (Not the Hacker) — June 25, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
That’s the worrisome thing for me about this. If you specifically remove funding from Dick within the bill funding the executive branch, aren’t you say - by virtue of pulling the funding out - that he’s not a part of the executive?
Makes me wonder who’s side this guy is on.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pmok… i hate to do this, but, for your own good,
msjoanne, marie and any other prospective patriots:
behold!
imagine the balls that go with that…
is all this any wonder?
my favorite fantasy revenge technique for such
June 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pmlowlife ugly criminals: hang ‘em by the balls…
perfect candidate.
…
What are the chances they are actually going to do this? And what are the chances it will work??
June 25th, 2007 at 8:05 pmWhat the hell are we talking about immigration for?
They’re going to vote to defund the Vice Presidents office!
This is a huge step in the right direction. This is a very, very, very very smart idea.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:06 pmYeah, crazy people always think it is the other guy.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 25, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
I know, right. Those failing Democrats who always end up choosing a random Republican to blame for their own failures. Talk about the need for personal responsibility.
You tell them, Spudgy!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:07 pmNow Congress can definitely go back and revisit all the instances where Cheney claimed “executive privilege” and rescind all of that…haha! Be careful what you ask for, Dickie-Do-Do.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:07 pmBig deal. I’m sure that he’ll just find some way to redirect that lucrative CIA heroin money out of Afghanistan.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:08 pmWill it work? It might. Congress has the purse, and they’re not passing a law, meaning the President can’t veto it.
And if he can’t veto it, all they need is a majority vote. Meaning the DEMS can do it.
If they don’t it will be because of a democrat, not a republican.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:08 pmOoooh, better fantasy revenge technique, nail his balls to a tree stump and push him over backwards!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:08 pmRight on, Bartlebee….which troll tried to hijack the thread….lemesee…looks like it’s old tired twisted Michael, aka Jake, aka Venus, aka about sixteen other screen names…you know…the schizo-sicko troll.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:09 pmOk, let’s see if they really do it. They certainly should not be funding Chaney’s fancy house and all the other perks he gets if he isn’t part of the Executive branch of the government. Congress should also go back and insist that Chaney hands over the list of energy people who visited his house to plan invading Iraq to steal their oil. He got out of that one by claiming Executive privilege. Well, if you aren’t part of the Executive branch Chaney baby, you can’t have Executive Privilege!
Here’s hoping that the Democrats have grown a spine and don’t back down again.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:09 pm#71 Better yet - let’s ask Pamela Willeford, his Swiss Miss crumpet what he enjoys best, shall we?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:09 pm“while the Dem caucus chants “Go Fu(k Yourself†in gregorian.”
Comment by RUCerious
I really like the sound (heh) of that………
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pm“my favorite fantasy revenge technique for such
lowlife ugly criminals: hang ‘em by the balls…
perfect candidate.”
…
Comment by katy
And let’s then have all violent rapists go free! That would be so ~kewl~
Hanging is for people like Sadaam, copy?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pmI wonder if he’ll get to keep his hazmat suit in the limo>>??
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pmThe point is not to defund Cheney. The point is to make him defend his position that he is above the laws of our country. Even right wingers hate it when priviliged Govt. People don’t have to obey the same laws as everyone else.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pmOh, katy….GROSS!! I said I’d take one for the country no matter how saggy the sack that goes with that might be.
And I like a staple gun, myself. It’s slower and more painful. But he’s probably love that.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmRahm Emmanuel just may have placed himself to become a famous figure in history, and maybe even a presidential run.
After all, if he pulls this off, he’ll forever be known as “Dragonslayer”.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmGood grief, katy! He must’ve been thinking of shooting someone in the face. Terrible pun. Sorry.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmIf only Congress had the balls or shall I say the testicular fortitude.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmRahm Emmanuel just told Dickhead Cheney to go F#$$K himself.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:12 pmWe do NOT have an immigration problem. That’s just the wedge issue of the day. Don’t worry, I’m sure the righties will find some other minority group to pick on soon.
Comment by numfar
I can tell that you don’t live in California.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:13 pm#66,
P.T. Barnum once said - “There is a sucker born every minute.”
If you are buying into this load of crap, then I would say that you have been “born again” many times.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:13 pm#66,
P.T. Barnum once said - “There is a sucker born every minute.â€
If you are buying into this load of crap, then I would say that you have been “born again†many times.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
You know, I am just about fed the Fcuk up with all the naysayers who can’t get behind anything, but just sick back and say “oh, we’re doomed, doomed“.
If you feel that way slim, then go crawl under a rock and wait to die.
As for me, this looks like a good move. Will it go anywhere? I don’t know. But I’ll be goddamned if I’m going to sit back and shoot it down before its out of the gate.
With losers like you, what the hell do we need republicans for?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:19 pmLet’s have the ‘hang by the neck until dead’ vote .
June 25th, 2007 at 8:19 pmComment by numfar
Poor minorities. We shouldn’t make the mistake of holding them to the same standard of the law.
Right on, nummy!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:20 pmWhen we start getting behind the good ideas that do come out of congress, then maybe something will work.
Knuckleheads like you don’t seem to realize they don’t have a veto breaking majority, and I doubt ever will grasp that fact.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:21 pmDon’t worry your little brains, Repuke trolls.
CNN won’t cover this story. They’re too busy talking to Paris Hilton.
Cheney thinks he can be in either the Executive or Legislative branch whenever it is to his advantage.
Don’t just cut off his paycheck, IMPEACH him.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pmThis idea doesn’t require that. Bush can’t veto this.
Rahm has picked a way to leverage congressional power to “begin” to reign in this president, and I for one am ALL FOR IT.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pmJust looking at Chaney, makes me want to take a shower. Can’t imagine anyone wanting to get that close. But then again, money does talk. If he’s part of the Legislative branch, does that put him at Patrick Leahey’s level? If I was Leahey, I’d be ‘waiting’ for him.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:24 pmWe are going to see if we are still a democracy, or if Chimpy and Cheney have turned the US into a fascist police state.
The repuke trolls are rooting for the latter.
They all wear Nazi panties.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:24 pmPoor minorities. We shouldn’t make the mistake of holding them to the same standard of the law.
Poor minorities??? Illegal immigrants are EMPLOYED by WHOM, and what standard of the law are THEY being held to???
June 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pmEven if this bill passes congress, the 43rd President of the United States, George W. Bush, still has his cross-cut shredder (veto-pen included!)!!!!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pmIf Cheney isn’t part of the executive, then why would he still be entitled to live on the grounds of the Naval Observatory? Shouldn’t he be asked to leave? Would he still be entitled to Secret Service protection?
Off-topic, but isn’t that weird how Google Earth shows everything in the area (circle) he lives is blurred out? Everything around that circle is visible. This guy’s paranoia and need for absolute secrecy is over the top.
Google Earth this:
June 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pm1 Observatory Circle, washington dc
Anyone else hate when the Roman Empire wanna-be does his exclamations, etc. and disrupts the entire structure of the thread?
Geez, first post and the thread looks like crap.
He’s so selfish………………
June 25th, 2007 at 8:27 pmI would think congrats are in order for Flaco. He won the ugliest dog contest. Yay!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:28 pmGood point JG.
Cheney isn’t entitled to Secret Service protection if he isn’t in the Executive Branch.
That means anybody can kick him in the nads when hes walking down the street.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:28 pmJG, that’s a part of what Rahm is shooting for. No salary for him or his staff. No more government paid housing. No more Air Force Two. No more nuttin’ but whatever his salary might be as head of the senate.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:28 pmComment by trueblue
It doesn’t bother me.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:29 pmI think Rahm has chugged too much Rum.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:30 pmComment by trueblue
It doesn’t bother me.
Comment by CT V_1
Figures, assbag
June 25th, 2007 at 8:30 pmComment by trueblue
Awww, you’re so sweet.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:32 pmI have a feeling Cheney and the other numbnuts are a step ahead of anything Congress does, aside from that whole idea involving tables. Even then, they have a plan to stop the impeachment process.
Why else so ballsy?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:33 pmSo now we have Trolls with some type of personality. Interesting.
I like the term assbag.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:34 pmRahm has Room to be a Rahmpous Rahmpass.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:34 pmDid anyone watch the video…
Bla bla bla…
Will you impeach him?
No but I will bla bla bla.
Enough of this lame soap opera. What day shall we citizens agree on to stage a national general strike?
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:34 pmSUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
Mabye Darth knows he’s gonna die soon anyway, so eff it, do whatever he wants to. Make some serious history here.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:35 pm#96
“This guy’s paranoia and need for absolute secrecy is over the top.”
Remember the guy, Howard, who was taking two of his kids to their Suzuki piano camp in Beaver Creek, Colorado. They were walking across the outdoor public mall area when all of a sudden he saw Cheney there.
He told him his policies in Iraq were reprehensible, and afterward Cheney sent his B.G’s out to arrest him.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:36 pmHey Freedomrings.
The idea is great. Can you sustain me financially while I strike? I just paid 3500 for a divorce attorney today. I got off cheap too.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:36 pmRahm has Room to be a Rahmpous Rahmpass.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Yet without the room, you exhibit the will to be one… Ah, bitter irony.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pmIt doesn’t bother me.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Nothing bothers a sociopath - it’s why we tell you to f*ck yourself, loser *ssh*le.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pm#91,
Poor wittle guy. Still looking for that savior so as to deny your own complicity I see.
I’m sure you cheered the 2006 election as being the beginning of the end to the Iraq “war” too. How did that non-binding resolution thing work out?
There is an axiom in business that says: “Do not confuse efforts with results.” Yoda, in SWII, approached the concept from a slightly different angle when he said to Luke: “You either ‘do’ or ‘do not’, there is no ‘try’.”
Your applause of an announced “effort” that will not get results shows that you are ignorant to the concept of getting things done and are easily placated with grandiose promises. Shiny things always capture the attention of the intellectually challenged.
You choose to remain in that grouping willingly. That’s your choice and I respect that. But if you are waiting for applause and adulations for your choosing to be ignorant, well, you’ll be waiting a while.
Talk to me again on Friday when nothing comes of this latest theatrical trick. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pm“I like the term assbag.”
Comment by ForTruth
I see that term as offensive to colostomy patients. It should be banned, in addition to your citizenship of earth.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:38 pmTheir plan to stop the impeachment process is a Fillibuster proof minority of republicans. We would need something like the aforementioned blow job or breaking into someone’s office to turn the tide before 2008. Not to say that Bush and Cheney aren’t reckless enough to provide such ammunition.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:38 pmMabye Darth knows he’s gonna die soon anyway, so eff it, do whatever he wants to. Make some serious history here.
Comment by ForTruth
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No American VP has been impeached, right? How about we let Cheney make some serious history this way?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:39 pmThis will be Cheney’s first write-up as an empleyee of the citizens if the United States. At this rate, he’ll die before he is fired.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
There’s a new episode of “To Catch a Predator” being aired in July. Discouraged that I’ll catch you on TV?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmI see that term as offensive to colostomy patients. It should be banned, in addition to your citizenship of earth. Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
You first, *ssw*pe.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
I think YOU should be banned.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by CT V_1
Didn’t mean to offend. How about douchebag?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:41 pmWhy don’t we have a special prosecutor investigating apparent law breaking by Cheney? If the offices of the executive branch are going to be blocked from doing their intended functions, e.g., make sure that rules regarding classified information are followed, then there should be an unbiased external investigation into it.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:43 pm…
And let’s then have all violent rapists go free!
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
what? … you don’t consider rapists (violent is redundant)
to be “lowlife ugly criminals” ? …
I sure do…
June 25th, 2007 at 8:43 pm.
Any time I see one of the nice, sweet, innocent, non-aggressive liberal ladies on here, angry at a troll, I just jump right in, I don’t even look at whats going on or anything. I instantly judge and attack the troll.
It’s kick ass.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:43 pmCheney has “shortimers” complex.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pm#108,
That silence that you are experiencing in response to your suggestion of a general strike, that is the sound of a vacuum. The vacuum, of course, is all that is left of American honor and courage.
Don’t believe me? Just wait for the responses you receive. No one here is willing to give up a McDonalds hamburger for the lives of subhuman Iraqis.
If you want to experience more silence (and even censorship from this site as well) then make the suggestion that the AUMF be revoked by the new Democratic majority congress. Keeping in mind, of course, that such a tactic will require only a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in congress and could NOT BE VETOED, ie; it would work perfectly.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pmDouchebag is good but ignorant, moronic, clueless, unAmerican, those fit as well…too well.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pmMy favorite Cheney story was from watching Spike Lee’s “When The Levee’s Broke” when the guy walks up behind the Cheney photo op and tells Cheny to “go f*ck yourself” not once, but twice. More surprising than that, to find out the guy was a physician.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:48 pmIt was surprising to me because my husband is a physician and he would never do anything like that, even if he was furious. He (my huband) went to NOLA and volunteered for several weeks. He was very emotional after he got back (and horribly sick with that ‘Katrina cough’. The stories he had to tell made ME cry.
Bush and Cheney showed up to put a face on the disaster and act like they cared, and acted like they actually intended to do something about the recovery. They didn’t care and still do not care.
I am surprised given the level of anger that they felt secure enough to step foot in the disaster zone - with protection or not.
They are a disgrace.
Uhm. FTFU…what’s AUMF?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:48 pmYou will have to beat Zooey, she called it first!
Comment by Flaco — June 25, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Yep, right after you, limpdick. Slurrrrp!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:49 pmI see that term as offensive to colostomy patients. It should be banned, in addition to your citizenship of earth.
Comment by CT V_1
I’ll sponsor you, Truth. You can stay on earth. :D
June 25th, 2007 at 8:50 pmAUMF
Authority to undesignate manually, F*ck off
June 25th, 2007 at 8:52 pmProgressive indeed.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
Give it a rest, FTFU. Freedomrings has been bringing the strike up for at least a week, and we’ve all made note of it. Personally, I’m in favor of it, and not for just an hour. Just assume that because we’re not commenting on a post we’ve seen many times that we don’t care.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:54 pmThe only thing good that will come of this is that the section on BushCo’s abuse of power in the history books will get even bigger.
But I’m always offended when these assholes break the law and tell us we’re being unpatriotic for trying to stop it. Truly unbelieveable.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:55 pmUhm. FTFU…what’s AUMF?
Comment by MsJoanne
Authorization to use military force — the way the Chimp got us into Iraq.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:55 pmTechnically Bush of course can veto his own spending bill, but he can’t force the money.
If he vetos the bill, the effect is the same. Cheney doesn’t get the funds either way. All that has to happen is for the Dems to stand behind Rahm on this one. And this one is a good one, so I am hoping, no, I’m praying, that they will.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:56 pm#130,
The fact that you don’t know what it is only illustrates my point further.
But here’s a little tidbit for you from Feb 19, 2007:
“It’s time to say that redeployment should start in 90 days, or the Congress will revoke authorization for this war,” Clinton said a video posted on her campaign Web site.
Both the AUMF and the Iraq War Authorization of 2002 can be revoked by a simple majority vote in congress and cannot be vetoed.
But, I guess the intellegentsia here are hell-bent on non-binding resolutions because those work so fcuking well.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:58 pmCT_V1- You’re wasting a lot of space being a jerk. Sit down and shut-up; maybe you’ll learn something.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:02 pmWell, you are right there. Repealing the authority to go to war would be the SMARTEST thing the could do.
But I am still all for defunding the office of the Vice Presidency.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:03 pmProgressive indeed.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
The other day one reply was the fear of the loss of electricity…
Today there is a support me I’m getting a divorce reply…
You can light a candle or find someone else to cheat on but none of that will matter when the Jack-Boots come for you and yours!
Yes, this endless diatribe is as much of a waste of times the last 26.5 years but I will continues to be a voice of reason here and in my personal life.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:03 pmIllustrates what point? That I didn’t understand an acronym you used? Not too sure what that’s supposed to be indicitive of but whatever trips ya.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:04 pmThis is alittle OT but how many people do you think you see in one day who don’t vote? I must have seen 200 on the way home tonight.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:05 pmChrist, the electricity thing again. You completely missed what my meaning was.
Try LISTENING (er, reading)…maybe it will improve your waste of a personal life. (See how easy it is to not TRULY PAY ATTENTION to something?)
June 25th, 2007 at 9:06 pmLandSurveyor, just curious…do you ask them? How do you know?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:07 pm. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
You know, maybe you should read some of my posts before just deciding I”m “ignorant”, for choosing to cheer on the only people even trying to stand up to the president.
You talk about getting things done, but do you really know how?
You want an “all or nothing” approach.
Ok. Fine. So do I.
Thats what I “want”.
But reality is we’ve got a lame duck congress who has been effectively “deballed” by the executive branch.
If you get the horse to water it doesn’t make much sense to sit back and demand he drink from a glass.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:08 pm#134,
The general strike would work , of course, and I’m in favor of it as well. In fact, I’ve been in favor of it for over 4 years.
But every time it is suggested it is panned as being too much of an inconvenience. (There’s that lack of honor and courage.)
Now, you are a witty sort and often have great humorous and stinging comments. But forgive me if I don’t “give it a rest”. Hundreds of thousands of people have been murdered, tortured, terrorized, and oppressed by my government and it continues unabated. My nephew is right in the middle of this sh*t and each day I wake up to the possibility that I will receive a call from my family with the news that you all find just merely inconvenient, but to me would be devastating.
I’ll give it a “rest” when this atrocity is ended. I’m sorry if my unrelenting approach offends your comfort, but your convenience is not my top priority.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:10 pmYou go to war with the Congress you have.
Not the Congress you want.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:12 pmIf you want a strike, start a grass roots effort, pick a date and email everyone you know ask them to email everyone they know and so on. Posting it over and over here isn’t getting you much traction as there are only so many people who post here.
Just a thought.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:13 pmAnd how do you revoke use of force? With a slim majority and people like Lieberman there?
Unless I am mistaken, this would require votes. Enlighten me if I am wrong.
There is a reason that little is getting done in congress. They can’t get a veto proof majority and virtually everyone is voting down party lines, whether it’s good for the country or bad.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:16 pmComment by Zooey — June 25, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
That is what we need Zooey SUPPORT! We need to do something at this point and that doesn’t mean more comments about all the stuff that we already know! I brought up the general strike first since typical protesting is dangerous and expensive. I strike gives the masses a new found strength and sense of importance. It would give us hope (virtue) and unity; it would into the Plutocrats by depriving them of money and they would fear us for a change and that is key by the way.
Let’s get it going people!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:17 pmSUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
#145,
The case for your being labeled “ignorant” is made best by yourself. Your comment:
But reality is we’ve got a lame duck congress who has been effectively “deballed†by the executive branch.
That statement is not just factually wrong, but it shows that you have no idea how our congress and system of government works.
But, you are holding on to that ignorance pretty tightly so I have to assume that you find that position desirable. Your choice.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:18 pm#149,
Do you know what a “simple” majority is? If you have 100 Senators, then a “simple majority” is 51. The mathematical formula is (.5X + 1) where “X” is the total number.
And since it is an authorization, revoking it cannot be vetoed.
Do you want me to shoot down more excuses?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:21 pm#150,
You have my full support. So, tallying up your supporters (clickity clickity, click), and then including myself (clickity clickity, click), you have a total of supporters of ONE.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:25 pmI can tell that you don’t live in California.
Comment by JPV — June 25, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
No, I live in New Mexico.
Poor minorities. We shouldn’t make the mistake of holding them to the same standard of the law.
Right on, nummy!
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
June 25th, 2007 at 9:25 pmWe have bigger issues to address than a few million illegal immigrants.
But reality is we’ve got a lame duck congress who has been effectively “deballed†by the executive branch.
That statement is not just factually wrong, but it shows that you have no idea how our congress and system of government works.
But, you are holding on to that ignorance pretty tightly so I have to assume that you find that position desirable. Your choice.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
What are you an idiot?
What about that statement indicates ANYTHING of what you charged me with? I know exactly how our congress works jackass, and my posts throughout this and other blogs demonstrate that.
I understand you inbred jerk, that it takes a simple majority to impeach.
But what your inbred mother didnt’ tell you apparently, is that it takes a TWO THIRDS MAJORITY in the senate, to ratify the impeachment order in the house.
Next time prick, read before opening your big fat mouth.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:29 pm#152, take a look at the number of votes on these issues. Is there going to be a simple majority?
http://www.senate.gov/ legislative/ LIS/ roll_call_lists/ vote_menu_110_1.htm
Analyze who’s voting for what. I follow this all the time.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:29 pmAnd we don’t need your support lamebrain.
We’ve got all the fruitcakes we need.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:30 pmAnd I was posting about rescinding the war authority about two years ago you limpdick prick.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:31 pm#91,
Poor wittle guy. Still looking for that savior so as to deny your own complicity I see.
Comment by Fcuked Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
My complicity? What about me is so much more complicit than you pinhead?
I vote. I have been denouncing the war and Bush since day one, publically. I support legislation and candidates who are against Bush.
What do YOU do?
What have YOU done big mouth, that makes you so much less complicit than me?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:34 pmIf you want a strike, start a grass roots effort, pick a date and email everyone you know ask them to email everyone they know and so on. Posting it over and over here isn’t getting you much traction as there are only so many people who post here.
Just a thought.
Comment by MsJoanne — June 25, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
Joanne,
I have more traction here than I thought! Thanks Zooey & TtFU. The issue is that this is the best way to organize anything. We save energy and can reach millions till the man shuts it down. Provided it happens a strike or two is all we have. Beyond that all there is is force. I don’t want matters to come to blows but I am prepared for that possibility. Here I will paste in my other post and you be the judge…
This is the business of the people now since Congress is not going to do anything to damage the Plutocracy they are part of, don’t you see that? These people can NUKE nations and murder with impunity. My God this has been the most surreal 6.5 years and it has to end today! Please don’t fear what should be our light at the end of this tunnle!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:35 pmSUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
Other than run your big, fat mouth?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:35 pm#155,
To revoke the AUMF (Authorization for Use of Military Force) and the Iraq “war” Resolution of 2002 would require only simple majority votes in both houses of congress. Nothing else. No fancy ceremonies. No other processes.
But, einstein, go ahead and call me an “inbred idiot lamebrain”. Though be sure to qualify it correctly by pointing out that I’m the “inbred idiot lamebrain” who is more knowledgeable than you.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:38 pmBush can veto this spending bill if he wants, but that effectively does the same thing as long as the dems remain cohesive on it. As long as the ammendment is supported, Bush won’t get a cent until he signs off on it.
So it is a showdown. Will the dems fold? Possibly. They did on the war funding bill. But rather than sit back and cry about how doomed we are, I prefer to get behind the only people with any power to do anything about this president run amuck, and the only game in town right now, is the congress.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:40 pmBartlebee, FTFU has a good heart but has no idea what the real world is actually like.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:44 pmAnd you want to know how to tell I was talking about impeachment?
Here’s a hint.
My use of the word “Impeachment” would have been a good clue.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:47 pmBartlebee, while I may not agree with everything you say, you crack me up sometimes. I think you rock.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:48 pm#162,
Boy, you are missing it. So let me put this another way:
The people that you are getting “behind” are as guilty of this crime as Bush himself and they do not plan to end this “war”.
Let me know when you’ve figured it out. Until then, keep chasing your non-binding resolutions because that has produced the EXACT results that it was intended to, it placates the ignorant and ensures that the “war” continues.
Oh, and look up “complicity” and then reconcile that definition with the “results” that your horses have achieved. You’ll find that it is not just appropriate, but it is precisely accurate.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:49 pmIf you say so J, but if he wants to call me ignorant of our government then he can kiss my ass.
I’ve forgotten more about our government, and American history than that knucklehead probably ever knew.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:49 pm#162,
Boy, you are missing it. So let me put this another way:
The people that you are getting “behind†are as guilty of this crime as Bush himself and they do not plan to end this “warâ€.
Comment by Fcuked Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
No, I got it the first time dickhead.
What you didn’t get is that I told you I was sick of big mouths like you, who shoot everything down before it gets going. You condemn everything but you don’t have a plan to do anything about it. You toss your hands up in despair, and cry “corruption, corruption”, but you have ZERO answers.
I am for the strike. I am for squeezing the dems nuts. I am for accountability. And I know that without the democratic congress, we have NO POWER. NONE. ZERO. GOOSEEGG.
Unless you’re planning an overthrow, then like I told you before jimbob, you go to war with the congress you have, not the congress you want.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:53 pmComment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
Please calm down. We need to unify so cross posting or diatribe can be but to the side. We know Congress is part of the problem and this is a tough pill to swallow. So again it falls on us to restore the only thing that matters, the Constitution. We must unify do this and it may be the best thing that ever happened to this generation!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:53 pmPlease let’s all put aside our differences and address the basic problem!
And they’re not “my horses” dimwit.
If you knew who you were talking to before opening that big fat mouth of yours, you’d know I wasn’t a democrat, and don’t claim any political affiliation.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:54 pm#164,
Great news!
So, in the “real world” my country, the USA, did not invade and occupy a sovereign nation based on falsehoods and lies and subsequently kill, maim, and terrorize millions of people?
Oh, and also in this “real world”, my nephew is actually sipping a margarita on the beach in Hawaii and not waiting to be killed for what is known globally to be a farce and evil crusade?
Gosh, I’d love to live in your “real world” and not the heinous one that you imply to be all my own delusion.
How cavalier you all are about lives not your own. Perhaps someone needs to change your perspective by making certain that the lives that are in peril are yours. Maybe then you’ll give a flying fcuk.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pmPlease keep in mind that the free radical ‘freedomrings’ initially started here as a right-wing troll who was a global warming denier. He has taken a very Ted Kaczinsky-like (sp?) stance and even advocated killing people to reduce carbon emissions. (He sounded serious.) Despite appearing pretty crazy, he did take the standard talking point that a carbon tax would be disastrous.
I think he’s the type of troll who tries to act serious but ends up promoting crazy crap. There are several troll tactics. One of them is to make TP appear to be a bunch of progressive loonies.
All the talk of a general strike is a desire to paint himself a radical. I’m not buying it. Does the phrase ‘agent provacateur’ come to mind. Either he’s a deceptive troll or he’s missing a few marbles. If I had to bet I’d say it’s the latter.
Here’s one of his great posts.
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If you kill your son and entire family and then blow your brains out the combined decomposition emissions will be less than if you all drive in your hybrid from Detroit to Canada! Every little bit helps by the way and the sooner people start killing themselves the less carbon emitters there will be! A win win!
Comment by freedomrings — June 15, 2007 @ 1:15 am
The full thread with far more of his crap - http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 06/ 14/ 2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far-2/ #comments
June 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pmBelieve me I share your rage against the machine, but guys like you usually get nothing accomplished. You talk a good game, but the truth is you are powerless.
Completely, and utterly powerless.
The system is already in place, and in your rage, and your pride, you decry it, and strike out at those of us who try to leverage what little power we have to make a change.
Well I am sick of people like you. In fact, you can say I am fed the fcuk up with people like you, who damn everyone to hell but yourselves.
Your hand is just as complicit as mine is junior, if not more. Did you vote? Do you write your congress? Do you support candidates and legislation that work towards our end?
Or do you just sit back and cry damnation, like you’re doing in here?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pm#167 He IS a bit of an extremist and can be very annoying. I think you already have him pegged so carry on.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:58 pmVinnie, you know what though? Freedomrings would be a great handle. Like freedom fries but so much more ironic. It is wasted on him.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:59 pm#164,
Great news!
So, in the “real world†my country, the USA, did not invade and occupy a sovereign nation based on falsehoods and lies and subsequently kill, maim, and terrorize millions of people?
Oh, and also in this “real worldâ€, my nephew is actually sipping a margarita on the beach in Hawaii and not waiting to be killed for what is known globally to be a farce and evil crusade?
Gosh, I’d love to live in your “real world†and not the heinous one that you imply to be all my own delusion.
How cavalier you all are about lives not your own. Perhaps someone needs to change your perspective by making certain that the lives that are in peril are yours. Maybe then you’ll give a flying fcuk.
Comment by Really Fcuked Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Ok, I’m done. You’re an idiot for saying any of those things.
EVERYONE knows I have been a stalwart antagonist of the right wing since day one. I have written extensively in here, and elsewhere condemning the war, and so much more.
So very, very much more.
But you clearly are just a little kid with a big mouth who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground, so I’ve wasted all the time I am going to waste on you kid.
When you come up with a PLAN, then look me up.
In the meantime, light another bong, pierce another appendage and we’ll see you in the funny papers.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:01 pm#169,
Read my comment #171 and then tell me that I need to calm down and be “patient” again.
I’m all for your general strike. I’m also all for revoking the authorization. But sitting around and waiting for someone else (especially the same politicians who have been involved in this from the get go) to doe something about this, well, I’m not for that.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:04 pmCavalier about lives that are not my own…geesh.
Give me a break.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:05 pmHere’s one more standard a-hole troll argument.
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The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.
Comment by freedomrings — June 21, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
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I often agree with zooey:
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Sorry, hadnt read the whole thread. Whats the deal with freedomrings?
Comment by Juan C
He’s nuckin’ futs.
Comment by Zooey — June 21, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
June 25th, 2007 at 10:06 pm#169,
Read my comment #171 and then tell me that I need to calm down and be “patient†again.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
Get your posts straight slim. I never said that. Someone else did.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:06 pm…Cut off his Secret Service Detail…
…then send him…
…ANYWHERE…
…w/out protection…
June 25th, 2007 at 10:07 pmMaybe someone’s addressed this already, but my question is this: What if Cheney says “So what?” We already know he’s got legions of rich buddies who will finance whatever he wants. Could he self-finance his office operations? And doesn’t that sound just like something he’d do?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:10 pm#
We have a illegal immigration problem in this country that is out of control and this is what these idiots are concentrating on?
Comment by michael — June 25, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
We have a health care crisis in this country and immigrantion is all your little brain can think about.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:10 pmI’m all for your general strike. I’m also all for revoking the authorization. But sitting around and waiting for someone else (especially the same politicians who have been involved in this from the get go) to doe something about this, well, I’m not for that.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
Yea? Congratulations. And we are all for defunding the war. But that doesn’t mean when I am going to shoot down legislation when it comes out just because some pot smoking anarachist sitting in his moms basement thinks I should.
You have to grease the wheels sometimes, and sometimes you have to support those whom you otherwise can’t stand in order to get something done. And often it won’t move on YOUR schedule. But THATS LIFE. Thats the game.
So like I said before, unless you are planning on launching a revolution and overthrowi