Vote to defund Cheney’s office to be held this week.
Vote to defund Cheney’s office to be held this week.
Reacting to the Office of the Vice President’s assertion that it is not an “entity within the executive branch,” Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) announced that he will introduce an amendment to cut off funding to Cheney’s office. Emanuel discussed the legislation on MSNBC tonight:
[Cheney] is acting like he’s unaccountable to anybody…and he’s taking an unbelievable step saying he’s not a member of the executive branch, he’s a member of the legislative branch, therefore he doesn’t have to provide information. … So I said, If that’s your logic, then we shouldn’t be funding you through the executive branch. Either Wednesday or Thursday my amendment will be on the floor, because the funding for the executive branch is on the floor. And I’ll strike the money for the Vice President’s Office. He can live off the Senate presidency budget that funds him up here. And that’s fine. But if he’s going to be funded in the executive branch, he complies with the rules that apply to everybody. He is not above the rules of the executive branch.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:33 pmHOT!
Whip the sucker’s ass.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:36 pmImpeachment amendment would be better!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:38 pmThink Congress will have the balls to defund Dick?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:38 pmDo not mess with Dick Cheney he is Chuck Norris good!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:41 pmFor God’s sake, someone please give Cheney a blowjob already so we can impeach and convict him!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:41 pmI don’t give congress a prayer, but I like this. And by the way; PRIMVS INTER PARES, why must you shout?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:42 pmWe have a illegal immigration problem in this country that is out of control and this is what these idiots are concentrating on?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:42 pmWay to go Rahm! Stick it to him.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:42 pmI volunteer to blow Cheney so we can impeach him!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:43 pmthis isn’t a joke. Dick Cheney has effectively overthrown our government and become a government unto himself. He has set policies, determined laws, caused people to be tortured, outed CIA agents and declared himself above and beyond our laws.
This is no laughing matter. THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:43 pmComment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 25, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
PRIMVS INTER PARES, why do you hate my eyeballs?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:43 pmCheney wanted a fight, and the Dems are about to give him one.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:44 pmIt’s a Dick-tatorship!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:44 pmThis would be the a great first step. Then, Chaney would have to abide by the rules of the Senete ethics and they could rail him there.
He made himself a government of one. Fan-friggin-tastic!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:45 pmComment by foolme1ns — June 25, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Absolutely correct! This is serious. Imagine if kickback-taking, tax-evading, former human being and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew tried to do this?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:45 pmSorry guys, it was just too funny.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:45 pmComment by marie — June 25, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
You don’t have to go that far. A girl can only be asked to do so much for her country. Let the DC Madam do it instead.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:46 pmPremise, meet conclusion. Excellent.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:46 pmAnd this was from a Chaney spokeswoman:
A few media outlest picked up on Rahm Emanuel’s idea of defunding Dick Chaney’s office as part of the executive-branch appropriations. “The vice president needs to make a decision,†Emanuel said. Lea Anne McBride, a Chaney spokesperson, said Emanuel “can either deal with the serious issues facing our country or create more partisian politics.â€
June 25th, 2007 at 7:47 pm#8, We do NOT have an immigration problem. That’s just the wedge issue of the day. Don’t worry, I’m sure the righties will find some other minority group to pick on soon.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:48 pmCut the funds and then throw his sorry butt out the door! Adios, Darth!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:49 pmRahm it to him, Emmanuel!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:49 pmWayne, if blowing Chaney would get him impeached, I’d take one for the country.
I always needed a blue dress. (wink)
June 25th, 2007 at 7:49 pmI await the argument opposing the amendment. It will be doubleplusungood.
But I suggest amending Kucinich’s Bill of Impeachment as the better alternative.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:50 pmAnd, the only immigration problem we have that despite our supposed attack on 911, this dumkoff still has the borders WIDE OPEN!! Is that some sort of sicko joke or what?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:50 pmRahm-n-noodles should Emanually run along to hell.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:50 pm#24 You’d have to pay a hooker a million dollars and promise to use double bags! nyuk! Only a true eejit would even look his way.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmRahm is short sighted…and silly.
Cheney would love to see his paycheck cut…
He will have a list of lobbyists who are willing to foot the bill for him and give him a nice place to stay; and with Rahm resolution,Cheney will have a nice ‘excuse’…
What they need to do is to enforce the laws in the books..but not to pay Cheney a ‘Government check’ will not solve anything.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmCan’t Rahm think of anything better than that..?!
… I’ll strike the money for the Vice President’s Office. He can live off the Senate presidency budget that funds him up here. And that’s fine. But if he’s going to be funded in the executive branch, he complies with the rules that apply to everybody. He is not above the rules of the executive branch. -RE
darth don’t need your stinkin’ budgeted funds…
he don’t need to comply wit’ nutn’.
…
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmWassamattu, CT V_1? Truth hitting a little too close to home. WAH WAH WAH!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmDo not mess with Dick Cheney he is Chuck Norris good!
Comment by Flaco — June 25, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Yeah, if Chuck Norris was old gray haggard and had a pace maker. Cheney is just a Dick, nothing else.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pm#25 I understand that Kucinich’s move toward Cheney impeachment is gathering steam…on both sides of the aisle. After all, the sooner the GOP candidates rid themselves of the “Bush/Cheney Curse”, the more traction they may get in their tanking campaigns.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:52 pmCan’t wait to see this non-binding legislation. But shouldn’t we table it until September? That is the “new and improved Democrat” M.O., right?
Just more political theatre to divert attention and focus from the hundreds of thousands of MURDERS that we just cannot figure out how to stop perpetrating. If only we could focus on a solutio….ooh, look, Hillary did something!
Dolts.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:52 pmUhm, Chuck Norris is kinda old and haggard, IMHO.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:52 pmI think the GOP needs to “cut their losses” at this point. More horrendous stuff is on it’s way out about Cheney & Bush and the more damaging facts which are released, the more probable that the GOP will become a thing of the past.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:53 pmThe Demmie-farts are getting too creative for my liking. I’m sure PiP had his cyber-laugh for the day.
Rahm, pick up your Emmy-cratic award!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:53 pmI volunteer to blow Cheney so we can impeach him!
Comment by marie — June 25, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
o my gawd, marie – have you SEEN that thing??? …
June 25th, 2007 at 7:53 pmwow, you have my deepest respect!
.
You don’t have to go that far. A girl can only be asked to do so much for her country. Let the DC Madam do it instead.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 25, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
She did and that is why her story was buried buy ABC. But, she is sending the list of names to every news outlet and blog, so that others can see exactly who’s name is on that list.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:54 pmSpudge….yep, he’s The Dick Cheney. That’s becoming increasingly obvious. A true underworld character dressed up in sunday finest, pimping the country with that trademark smirk on his face. Ever notice where the third finger of his hand happens to be?? Under the table, giving it to everyone!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:54 pmIf there’s a weasel in the White House, it’s Chaney. He’s sneaky, cunning and ‘lies like a rug. He’s accountable to no one, and is actually running this country. Cut his funding, then impeach, the SOB. He needs jail time.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:55 pmDefunding the war would have been a better use of all that dry powder you’ve been accumulating, Rahm. Cheney can just live off residuals.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:55 pmAnd the next time he steps onto the Senate floor, some one should give him a kick in the nuts, while the Dem caucus chants “Go Fu(k Yourself” in gregorian.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:55 pmIf they manage to defund Dick (not going to happen), what will that accomplish. In a way, it’d just be tacit approval for whatever Dick do.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:56 pm“Do not mess with Dick Cheney he is Chuck Norris good!
Comment by Flaco ”
What is it with neoconidiots and washed up hack actors?
June 25th, 2007 at 7:57 pmMaybe Lynne Cheney needs to really find out what Pam Willeford (Cheney’s concubine Swiss Miss) was doing out on the ranch riding shotgun when Cheney shot his friend in the face???
June 25th, 2007 at 7:57 pmLet’s “Rahm ‘em all” where the sun don’t shine! They’ve all got it coming…comuppence can be a bitch, they say!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmNOW you’re talking Rahm.
NOW you’ve got my attention.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmWhat’s the Bobett chick doing these day’s.? Wonder if she’s up for a good recruting job from us….Now that’s who should be in charge of taking care of cheney….Then we could call him unich cheney….LOL…Blessings
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmLea Anne McBride, a Chaney spokesperson, said
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pm“You can’t do that! I’ll be out of a phoney baloney job!”
And I BET you got Cheney’s too.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmComment by MsJoanne
Well, yah. I’m HA! HA! HA!-ing so hard, I’m WAH! WAH! WAH!-ing.
Rahm will be nominated for his performance, rest assured.
The Senate needs more toilet paper, so this hopefully should pass Nancy’s strictly accountable House of Rahmpresentatives.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmGo get ‘em, but maybe you could also IMPEACH the criminal.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmIf he’s not a member of the executive branch then he has no protection under executive prividelge, right? go after the facist bastard.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:59 pmThis is the smartest move I’ve seen yet from the dems.
This is a good, good idea.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:00 pmWassamattu, CT V_1? Truth hitting a little too close to home. WAH WAH WAH!
Comment by MsJoanne
Why, yes, the truth is hitting close to home – my suspicions have been confirmed: your party is more loony than I ever though possible.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:01 pmI volunteer to blow Cheney so we can impeach him!
Comment by marie
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You will have to beat Zooey, she called it first!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:02 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/constitution
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pmThis is so COOL I can’t hardly stand it!!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pmI can’t believe we’re sitting being told by the VP that he’s not part of the executive. This is just flat surreal.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pmWhy, yes, the truth is hitting close to home – my suspicions have been confirmed: your party is more loony than I ever though possible.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
Yeah, crazy people always think it is the other guy.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pm“We have a illegal immigration problem in this country that is out of control and this is what these idiots are concentrating on?
Comment by michael”
…and how long have we had an illegal immigration problem? 20 years? 30 years?
How long have we had a vice president creating a constitutional crisis?
I think we can afford a few more weeks/months of a chronic immigration problem to try to head off a rogue vice president in the interest of constitutional integrity.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pmIf he’s not a member of the executive branch then he has no protection under executive prividelge, right? go after the facist bastard.
Comment by Bob (Not the Hacker) — June 25, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
That’s the worrisome thing for me about this. If you specifically remove funding from Dick within the bill funding the executive branch, aren’t you say – by virtue of pulling the funding out – that he’s not a part of the executive?
Makes me wonder who’s side this guy is on.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pmok… i hate to do this, but, for your own good,
msjoanne, marie and any other prospective patriots:
behold!
imagine the balls that go with that…
is all this any wonder?
my favorite fantasy revenge technique for such
June 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pmlowlife ugly criminals: hang ‘em by the balls…
perfect candidate.
…
What are the chances they are actually going to do this? And what are the chances it will work??
June 25th, 2007 at 8:05 pmWhat the hell are we talking about immigration for?
They’re going to vote to defund the Vice Presidents office!
This is a huge step in the right direction. This is a very, very, very very smart idea.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:06 pmYeah, crazy people always think it is the other guy.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 25, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
I know, right. Those failing Democrats who always end up choosing a random Republican to blame for their own failures. Talk about the need for personal responsibility.
You tell them, Spudgy!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:07 pmNow Congress can definitely go back and revisit all the instances where Cheney claimed “executive privilege” and rescind all of that…haha! Be careful what you ask for, Dickie-Do-Do.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:07 pmBig deal. I’m sure that he’ll just find some way to redirect that lucrative CIA heroin money out of Afghanistan.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:08 pmWill it work? It might. Congress has the purse, and they’re not passing a law, meaning the President can’t veto it.
And if he can’t veto it, all they need is a majority vote. Meaning the DEMS can do it.
If they don’t it will be because of a democrat, not a republican.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:08 pmOoooh, better fantasy revenge technique, nail his balls to a tree stump and push him over backwards!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:08 pmRight on, Bartlebee….which troll tried to hijack the thread….lemesee…looks like it’s old tired twisted Michael, aka Jake, aka Venus, aka about sixteen other screen names…you know…the schizo-sicko troll.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:09 pmOk, let’s see if they really do it. They certainly should not be funding Chaney’s fancy house and all the other perks he gets if he isn’t part of the Executive branch of the government. Congress should also go back and insist that Chaney hands over the list of energy people who visited his house to plan invading Iraq to steal their oil. He got out of that one by claiming Executive privilege. Well, if you aren’t part of the Executive branch Chaney baby, you can’t have Executive Privilege!
Here’s hoping that the Democrats have grown a spine and don’t back down again.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:09 pm#71 Better yet – let’s ask Pamela Willeford, his Swiss Miss crumpet what he enjoys best, shall we?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:09 pm“while the Dem caucus chants “Go Fu(k Yourself†in gregorian.”
Comment by RUCerious
I really like the sound (heh) of that………
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pm“my favorite fantasy revenge technique for such
lowlife ugly criminals: hang ‘em by the balls…
perfect candidate.”
…
Comment by katy
And let’s then have all violent rapists go free! That would be so ~kewl~
Hanging is for people like Sadaam, copy?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pmI wonder if he’ll get to keep his hazmat suit in the limo>>??
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pmThe point is not to defund Cheney. The point is to make him defend his position that he is above the laws of our country. Even right wingers hate it when priviliged Govt. People don’t have to obey the same laws as everyone else.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pmOh, katy….GROSS!! I said I’d take one for the country no matter how saggy the sack that goes with that might be.
And I like a staple gun, myself. It’s slower and more painful. But he’s probably love that.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmRahm Emmanuel just may have placed himself to become a famous figure in history, and maybe even a presidential run.
After all, if he pulls this off, he’ll forever be known as “Dragonslayer”.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmGood grief, katy! He must’ve been thinking of shooting someone in the face. Terrible pun. Sorry.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmIf only Congress had the balls or shall I say the testicular fortitude.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:11 pmRahm Emmanuel just told Dickhead Cheney to go F#$$K himself.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:12 pmWe do NOT have an immigration problem. That’s just the wedge issue of the day. Don’t worry, I’m sure the righties will find some other minority group to pick on soon.
Comment by numfar
I can tell that you don’t live in California.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:13 pm#66,
P.T. Barnum once said – “There is a sucker born every minute.”
If you are buying into this load of crap, then I would say that you have been “born again” many times.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:13 pm#66,
P.T. Barnum once said – “There is a sucker born every minute.â€
If you are buying into this load of crap, then I would say that you have been “born again†many times.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
You know, I am just about fed the Fcuk up with all the naysayers who can’t get behind anything, but just sick back and say “oh, we’re doomed, doomed“.
If you feel that way slim, then go crawl under a rock and wait to die.
As for me, this looks like a good move. Will it go anywhere? I don’t know. But I’ll be goddamned if I’m going to sit back and shoot it down before its out of the gate.
With losers like you, what the hell do we need republicans for?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:19 pmLet’s have the ‘hang by the neck until dead’ vote .
June 25th, 2007 at 8:19 pmComment by numfar
Poor minorities. We shouldn’t make the mistake of holding them to the same standard of the law.
Right on, nummy!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:20 pmWhen we start getting behind the good ideas that do come out of congress, then maybe something will work.
Knuckleheads like you don’t seem to realize they don’t have a veto breaking majority, and I doubt ever will grasp that fact.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:21 pmDon’t worry your little brains, Repuke trolls.
CNN won’t cover this story. They’re too busy talking to Paris Hilton.
Cheney thinks he can be in either the Executive or Legislative branch whenever it is to his advantage.
Don’t just cut off his paycheck, IMPEACH him.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pmThis idea doesn’t require that. Bush can’t veto this.
Rahm has picked a way to leverage congressional power to “begin” to reign in this president, and I for one am ALL FOR IT.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pmJust looking at Chaney, makes me want to take a shower. Can’t imagine anyone wanting to get that close. But then again, money does talk. If he’s part of the Legislative branch, does that put him at Patrick Leahey’s level? If I was Leahey, I’d be ‘waiting’ for him.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:24 pmWe are going to see if we are still a democracy, or if Chimpy and Cheney have turned the US into a fascist police state.
The repuke trolls are rooting for the latter.
They all wear Nazi panties.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:24 pmPoor minorities. We shouldn’t make the mistake of holding them to the same standard of the law.
Poor minorities??? Illegal immigrants are EMPLOYED by WHOM, and what standard of the law are THEY being held to???
June 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pmEven if this bill passes congress, the 43rd President of the United States, George W. Bush, still has his cross-cut shredder (veto-pen included!)!!!!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pmIf Cheney isn’t part of the executive, then why would he still be entitled to live on the grounds of the Naval Observatory? Shouldn’t he be asked to leave? Would he still be entitled to Secret Service protection?
Off-topic, but isn’t that weird how Google Earth shows everything in the area (circle) he lives is blurred out? Everything around that circle is visible. This guy’s paranoia and need for absolute secrecy is over the top.
Google Earth this:
June 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pm1 Observatory Circle, washington dc
Anyone else hate when the Roman Empire wanna-be does his exclamations, etc. and disrupts the entire structure of the thread?
Geez, first post and the thread looks like crap.
He’s so selfish………………
June 25th, 2007 at 8:27 pmI would think congrats are in order for Flaco. He won the ugliest dog contest. Yay!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:28 pmGood point JG.
Cheney isn’t entitled to Secret Service protection if he isn’t in the Executive Branch.
That means anybody can kick him in the nads when hes walking down the street.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:28 pmJG, that’s a part of what Rahm is shooting for. No salary for him or his staff. No more government paid housing. No more Air Force Two. No more nuttin’ but whatever his salary might be as head of the senate.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:28 pmComment by trueblue
It doesn’t bother me.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:29 pmI think Rahm has chugged too much Rum.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:30 pmComment by trueblue
It doesn’t bother me.
Comment by CT V_1
Figures, assbag
June 25th, 2007 at 8:30 pmComment by trueblue
Awww, you’re so sweet.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:32 pmI have a feeling Cheney and the other numbnuts are a step ahead of anything Congress does, aside from that whole idea involving tables. Even then, they have a plan to stop the impeachment process.
Why else so ballsy?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:33 pmSo now we have Trolls with some type of personality. Interesting.
I like the term assbag.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:34 pmRahm has Room to be a Rahmpous Rahmpass.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:34 pmDid anyone watch the video…
Bla bla bla…
Will you impeach him?
No but I will bla bla bla.
Enough of this lame soap opera. What day shall we citizens agree on to stage a national general strike?
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:34 pmSUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
Mabye Darth knows he’s gonna die soon anyway, so eff it, do whatever he wants to. Make some serious history here.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:35 pm#96
“This guy’s paranoia and need for absolute secrecy is over the top.”
Remember the guy, Howard, who was taking two of his kids to their Suzuki piano camp in Beaver Creek, Colorado. They were walking across the outdoor public mall area when all of a sudden he saw Cheney there.
He told him his policies in Iraq were reprehensible, and afterward Cheney sent his B.G’s out to arrest him.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:36 pmHey Freedomrings.
The idea is great. Can you sustain me financially while I strike? I just paid 3500 for a divorce attorney today. I got off cheap too.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:36 pmRahm has Room to be a Rahmpous Rahmpass.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Yet without the room, you exhibit the will to be one… Ah, bitter irony.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pmIt doesn’t bother me.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Nothing bothers a sociopath – it’s why we tell you to f*ck yourself, loser *ssh*le.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pm#91,
Poor wittle guy. Still looking for that savior so as to deny your own complicity I see.
I’m sure you cheered the 2006 election as being the beginning of the end to the Iraq “war” too. How did that non-binding resolution thing work out?
There is an axiom in business that says: “Do not confuse efforts with results.” Yoda, in SWII, approached the concept from a slightly different angle when he said to Luke: “You either ‘do’ or ‘do not’, there is no ‘try’.”
Your applause of an announced “effort” that will not get results shows that you are ignorant to the concept of getting things done and are easily placated with grandiose promises. Shiny things always capture the attention of the intellectually challenged.
You choose to remain in that grouping willingly. That’s your choice and I respect that. But if you are waiting for applause and adulations for your choosing to be ignorant, well, you’ll be waiting a while.
Talk to me again on Friday when nothing comes of this latest theatrical trick. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 pm“I like the term assbag.”
Comment by ForTruth
I see that term as offensive to colostomy patients. It should be banned, in addition to your citizenship of earth.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:38 pmTheir plan to stop the impeachment process is a Fillibuster proof minority of republicans. We would need something like the aforementioned blow job or breaking into someone’s office to turn the tide before 2008. Not to say that Bush and Cheney aren’t reckless enough to provide such ammunition.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:38 pmMabye Darth knows he’s gonna die soon anyway, so eff it, do whatever he wants to. Make some serious history here.
Comment by ForTruth
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No American VP has been impeached, right? How about we let Cheney make some serious history this way?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:39 pmThis will be Cheney’s first write-up as an empleyee of the citizens if the United States. At this rate, he’ll die before he is fired.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
There’s a new episode of “To Catch a Predator” being aired in July. Discouraged that I’ll catch you on TV?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmI see that term as offensive to colostomy patients. It should be banned, in addition to your citizenship of earth. Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
You first, *ssw*pe.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
I think YOU should be banned.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by CT V_1
Didn’t mean to offend. How about douchebag?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:41 pmWhy don’t we have a special prosecutor investigating apparent law breaking by Cheney? If the offices of the executive branch are going to be blocked from doing their intended functions, e.g., make sure that rules regarding classified information are followed, then there should be an unbiased external investigation into it.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:43 pm…
And let’s then have all violent rapists go free!
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
what? … you don’t consider rapists (violent is redundant)
to be “lowlife ugly criminals” ? …
I sure do…
June 25th, 2007 at 8:43 pm.
Any time I see one of the nice, sweet, innocent, non-aggressive liberal ladies on here, angry at a troll, I just jump right in, I don’t even look at whats going on or anything. I instantly judge and attack the troll.
It’s kick ass.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:43 pmCheney has “shortimers” complex.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pm#108,
That silence that you are experiencing in response to your suggestion of a general strike, that is the sound of a vacuum. The vacuum, of course, is all that is left of American honor and courage.
Don’t believe me? Just wait for the responses you receive. No one here is willing to give up a McDonalds hamburger for the lives of subhuman Iraqis.
If you want to experience more silence (and even censorship from this site as well) then make the suggestion that the AUMF be revoked by the new Democratic majority congress. Keeping in mind, of course, that such a tactic will require only a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in congress and could NOT BE VETOED, ie; it would work perfectly.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pmDouchebag is good but ignorant, moronic, clueless, unAmerican, those fit as well…too well.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pmMy favorite Cheney story was from watching Spike Lee’s “When The Levee’s Broke” when the guy walks up behind the Cheney photo op and tells Cheny to “go f*ck yourself” not once, but twice. More surprising than that, to find out the guy was a physician.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:48 pmIt was surprising to me because my husband is a physician and he would never do anything like that, even if he was furious. He (my huband) went to NOLA and volunteered for several weeks. He was very emotional after he got back (and horribly sick with that ‘Katrina cough’. The stories he had to tell made ME cry.
Bush and Cheney showed up to put a face on the disaster and act like they cared, and acted like they actually intended to do something about the recovery. They didn’t care and still do not care.
I am surprised given the level of anger that they felt secure enough to step foot in the disaster zone – with protection or not.
They are a disgrace.
Uhm. FTFU…what’s AUMF?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:48 pmYou will have to beat Zooey, she called it first!
Comment by Flaco — June 25, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Yep, right after you, limpdick. Slurrrrp!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:49 pmI see that term as offensive to colostomy patients. It should be banned, in addition to your citizenship of earth.
Comment by CT V_1
I’ll sponsor you, Truth. You can stay on earth. :D
June 25th, 2007 at 8:50 pmAUMF
Authority to undesignate manually, F*ck off
June 25th, 2007 at 8:52 pmProgressive indeed.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
Give it a rest, FTFU. Freedomrings has been bringing the strike up for at least a week, and we’ve all made note of it. Personally, I’m in favor of it, and not for just an hour. Just assume that because we’re not commenting on a post we’ve seen many times that we don’t care.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:54 pmThe only thing good that will come of this is that the section on BushCo’s abuse of power in the history books will get even bigger.
But I’m always offended when these assholes break the law and tell us we’re being unpatriotic for trying to stop it. Truly unbelieveable.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:55 pmUhm. FTFU…what’s AUMF?
Comment by MsJoanne
Authorization to use military force — the way the Chimp got us into Iraq.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:55 pmTechnically Bush of course can veto his own spending bill, but he can’t force the money.
If he vetos the bill, the effect is the same. Cheney doesn’t get the funds either way. All that has to happen is for the Dems to stand behind Rahm on this one. And this one is a good one, so I am hoping, no, I’m praying, that they will.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:56 pm#130,
The fact that you don’t know what it is only illustrates my point further.
But here’s a little tidbit for you from Feb 19, 2007:
“It’s time to say that redeployment should start in 90 days, or the Congress will revoke authorization for this war,” Clinton said a video posted on her campaign Web site.
Both the AUMF and the Iraq War Authorization of 2002 can be revoked by a simple majority vote in congress and cannot be vetoed.
But, I guess the intellegentsia here are hell-bent on non-binding resolutions because those work so fcuking well.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:58 pmCT_V1- You’re wasting a lot of space being a jerk. Sit down and shut-up; maybe you’ll learn something.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:02 pmWell, you are right there. Repealing the authority to go to war would be the SMARTEST thing the could do.
But I am still all for defunding the office of the Vice Presidency.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:03 pmProgressive indeed.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
The other day one reply was the fear of the loss of electricity…
Today there is a support me I’m getting a divorce reply…
You can light a candle or find someone else to cheat on but none of that will matter when the Jack-Boots come for you and yours!
Yes, this endless diatribe is as much of a waste of times the last 26.5 years but I will continues to be a voice of reason here and in my personal life.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:03 pmIllustrates what point? That I didn’t understand an acronym you used? Not too sure what that’s supposed to be indicitive of but whatever trips ya.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:04 pmThis is alittle OT but how many people do you think you see in one day who don’t vote? I must have seen 200 on the way home tonight.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:05 pmChrist, the electricity thing again. You completely missed what my meaning was.
Try LISTENING (er, reading)…maybe it will improve your waste of a personal life. (See how easy it is to not TRULY PAY ATTENTION to something?)
June 25th, 2007 at 9:06 pmLandSurveyor, just curious…do you ask them? How do you know?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:07 pm. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
You know, maybe you should read some of my posts before just deciding I”m “ignorant”, for choosing to cheer on the only people even trying to stand up to the president.
You talk about getting things done, but do you really know how?
You want an “all or nothing” approach.
Ok. Fine. So do I.
Thats what I “want”.
But reality is we’ve got a lame duck congress who has been effectively “deballed” by the executive branch.
If you get the horse to water it doesn’t make much sense to sit back and demand he drink from a glass.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:08 pm#134,
The general strike would work , of course, and I’m in favor of it as well. In fact, I’ve been in favor of it for over 4 years.
But every time it is suggested it is panned as being too much of an inconvenience. (There’s that lack of honor and courage.)
Now, you are a witty sort and often have great humorous and stinging comments. But forgive me if I don’t “give it a rest”. Hundreds of thousands of people have been murdered, tortured, terrorized, and oppressed by my government and it continues unabated. My nephew is right in the middle of this sh*t and each day I wake up to the possibility that I will receive a call from my family with the news that you all find just merely inconvenient, but to me would be devastating.
I’ll give it a “rest” when this atrocity is ended. I’m sorry if my unrelenting approach offends your comfort, but your convenience is not my top priority.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:10 pmYou go to war with the Congress you have.
Not the Congress you want.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:12 pmIf you want a strike, start a grass roots effort, pick a date and email everyone you know ask them to email everyone they know and so on. Posting it over and over here isn’t getting you much traction as there are only so many people who post here.
Just a thought.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:13 pmAnd how do you revoke use of force? With a slim majority and people like Lieberman there?
Unless I am mistaken, this would require votes. Enlighten me if I am wrong.
There is a reason that little is getting done in congress. They can’t get a veto proof majority and virtually everyone is voting down party lines, whether it’s good for the country or bad.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:16 pmComment by Zooey — June 25, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
That is what we need Zooey SUPPORT! We need to do something at this point and that doesn’t mean more comments about all the stuff that we already know! I brought up the general strike first since typical protesting is dangerous and expensive. I strike gives the masses a new found strength and sense of importance. It would give us hope (virtue) and unity; it would into the Plutocrats by depriving them of money and they would fear us for a change and that is key by the way.
Let’s get it going people!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:17 pmSUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
#145,
The case for your being labeled “ignorant” is made best by yourself. Your comment:
But reality is we’ve got a lame duck congress who has been effectively “deballed†by the executive branch.
That statement is not just factually wrong, but it shows that you have no idea how our congress and system of government works.
But, you are holding on to that ignorance pretty tightly so I have to assume that you find that position desirable. Your choice.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:18 pm#149,
Do you know what a “simple” majority is? If you have 100 Senators, then a “simple majority” is 51. The mathematical formula is (.5X + 1) where “X” is the total number.
And since it is an authorization, revoking it cannot be vetoed.
Do you want me to shoot down more excuses?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:21 pm#150,
You have my full support. So, tallying up your supporters (clickity clickity, click), and then including myself (clickity clickity, click), you have a total of supporters of ONE.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:25 pmI can tell that you don’t live in California.
Comment by JPV — June 25, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
No, I live in New Mexico.
Poor minorities. We shouldn’t make the mistake of holding them to the same standard of the law.
Right on, nummy!
Comment by CT V_1 — June 25, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
June 25th, 2007 at 9:25 pmWe have bigger issues to address than a few million illegal immigrants.
But reality is we’ve got a lame duck congress who has been effectively “deballed†by the executive branch.
That statement is not just factually wrong, but it shows that you have no idea how our congress and system of government works.
But, you are holding on to that ignorance pretty tightly so I have to assume that you find that position desirable. Your choice.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
What are you an idiot?
What about that statement indicates ANYTHING of what you charged me with? I know exactly how our congress works jackass, and my posts throughout this and other blogs demonstrate that.
I understand you inbred jerk, that it takes a simple majority to impeach.
But what your inbred mother didnt’ tell you apparently, is that it takes a TWO THIRDS MAJORITY in the senate, to ratify the impeachment order in the house.
Next time prick, read before opening your big fat mouth.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:29 pm#152, take a look at the number of votes on these issues. Is there going to be a simple majority?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_110_1.htm
Analyze who’s voting for what. I follow this all the time.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:29 pmAnd we don’t need your support lamebrain.
We’ve got all the fruitcakes we need.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:30 pmAnd I was posting about rescinding the war authority about two years ago you limpdick prick.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:31 pm#91,
Poor wittle guy. Still looking for that savior so as to deny your own complicity I see.
Comment by Fcuked Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
My complicity? What about me is so much more complicit than you pinhead?
I vote. I have been denouncing the war and Bush since day one, publically. I support legislation and candidates who are against Bush.
What do YOU do?
What have YOU done big mouth, that makes you so much less complicit than me?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:34 pmIf you want a strike, start a grass roots effort, pick a date and email everyone you know ask them to email everyone they know and so on. Posting it over and over here isn’t getting you much traction as there are only so many people who post here.
Just a thought.
Comment by MsJoanne — June 25, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
Joanne,
I have more traction here than I thought! Thanks Zooey & TtFU. The issue is that this is the best way to organize anything. We save energy and can reach millions till the man shuts it down. Provided it happens a strike or two is all we have. Beyond that all there is is force. I don’t want matters to come to blows but I am prepared for that possibility. Here I will paste in my other post and you be the judge…
This is the business of the people now since Congress is not going to do anything to damage the Plutocracy they are part of, don’t you see that? These people can NUKE nations and murder with impunity. My God this has been the most surreal 6.5 years and it has to end today! Please don’t fear what should be our light at the end of this tunnle!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:35 pmSUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
Other than run your big, fat mouth?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:35 pm#155,
To revoke the AUMF (Authorization for Use of Military Force) and the Iraq “war” Resolution of 2002 would require only simple majority votes in both houses of congress. Nothing else. No fancy ceremonies. No other processes.
But, einstein, go ahead and call me an “inbred idiot lamebrain”. Though be sure to qualify it correctly by pointing out that I’m the “inbred idiot lamebrain” who is more knowledgeable than you.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:38 pmBush can veto this spending bill if he wants, but that effectively does the same thing as long as the dems remain cohesive on it. As long as the ammendment is supported, Bush won’t get a cent until he signs off on it.
So it is a showdown. Will the dems fold? Possibly. They did on the war funding bill. But rather than sit back and cry about how doomed we are, I prefer to get behind the only people with any power to do anything about this president run amuck, and the only game in town right now, is the congress.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:40 pmBartlebee, FTFU has a good heart but has no idea what the real world is actually like.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:44 pmAnd you want to know how to tell I was talking about impeachment?
Here’s a hint.
My use of the word “Impeachment” would have been a good clue.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:47 pmBartlebee, while I may not agree with everything you say, you crack me up sometimes. I think you rock.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:48 pm#162,
Boy, you are missing it. So let me put this another way:
The people that you are getting “behind” are as guilty of this crime as Bush himself and they do not plan to end this “war”.
Let me know when you’ve figured it out. Until then, keep chasing your non-binding resolutions because that has produced the EXACT results that it was intended to, it placates the ignorant and ensures that the “war” continues.
Oh, and look up “complicity” and then reconcile that definition with the “results” that your horses have achieved. You’ll find that it is not just appropriate, but it is precisely accurate.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:49 pmIf you say so J, but if he wants to call me ignorant of our government then he can kiss my ass.
I’ve forgotten more about our government, and American history than that knucklehead probably ever knew.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:49 pm#162,
Boy, you are missing it. So let me put this another way:
The people that you are getting “behind†are as guilty of this crime as Bush himself and they do not plan to end this “warâ€.
Comment by Fcuked Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
No, I got it the first time dickhead.
What you didn’t get is that I told you I was sick of big mouths like you, who shoot everything down before it gets going. You condemn everything but you don’t have a plan to do anything about it. You toss your hands up in despair, and cry “corruption, corruption”, but you have ZERO answers.
I am for the strike. I am for squeezing the dems nuts. I am for accountability. And I know that without the democratic congress, we have NO POWER. NONE. ZERO. GOOSEEGG.
Unless you’re planning an overthrow, then like I told you before jimbob, you go to war with the congress you have, not the congress you want.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:53 pmComment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
Please calm down. We need to unify so cross posting or diatribe can be but to the side. We know Congress is part of the problem and this is a tough pill to swallow. So again it falls on us to restore the only thing that matters, the Constitution. We must unify do this and it may be the best thing that ever happened to this generation!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:53 pmPlease let’s all put aside our differences and address the basic problem!
And they’re not “my horses” dimwit.
If you knew who you were talking to before opening that big fat mouth of yours, you’d know I wasn’t a democrat, and don’t claim any political affiliation.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:54 pm#164,
Great news!
So, in the “real world” my country, the USA, did not invade and occupy a sovereign nation based on falsehoods and lies and subsequently kill, maim, and terrorize millions of people?
Oh, and also in this “real world”, my nephew is actually sipping a margarita on the beach in Hawaii and not waiting to be killed for what is known globally to be a farce and evil crusade?
Gosh, I’d love to live in your “real world” and not the heinous one that you imply to be all my own delusion.
How cavalier you all are about lives not your own. Perhaps someone needs to change your perspective by making certain that the lives that are in peril are yours. Maybe then you’ll give a flying fcuk.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pmPlease keep in mind that the free radical ‘freedomrings’ initially started here as a right-wing troll who was a global warming denier. He has taken a very Ted Kaczinsky-like (sp?) stance and even advocated killing people to reduce carbon emissions. (He sounded serious.) Despite appearing pretty crazy, he did take the standard talking point that a carbon tax would be disastrous.
I think he’s the type of troll who tries to act serious but ends up promoting crazy crap. There are several troll tactics. One of them is to make TP appear to be a bunch of progressive loonies.
All the talk of a general strike is a desire to paint himself a radical. I’m not buying it. Does the phrase ‘agent provacateur’ come to mind. Either he’s a deceptive troll or he’s missing a few marbles. If I had to bet I’d say it’s the latter.
Here’s one of his great posts.
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If you kill your son and entire family and then blow your brains out the combined decomposition emissions will be less than if you all drive in your hybrid from Detroit to Canada! Every little bit helps by the way and the sooner people start killing themselves the less carbon emitters there will be! A win win!
Comment by freedomrings — June 15, 2007 @ 1:15 am
The full thread with far more of his crap – http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/14/2007-hottest-year-ever-thus-far-2/#comments
June 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pmBelieve me I share your rage against the machine, but guys like you usually get nothing accomplished. You talk a good game, but the truth is you are powerless.
Completely, and utterly powerless.
The system is already in place, and in your rage, and your pride, you decry it, and strike out at those of us who try to leverage what little power we have to make a change.
Well I am sick of people like you. In fact, you can say I am fed the fcuk up with people like you, who damn everyone to hell but yourselves.
Your hand is just as complicit as mine is junior, if not more. Did you vote? Do you write your congress? Do you support candidates and legislation that work towards our end?
Or do you just sit back and cry damnation, like you’re doing in here?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pm#167 He IS a bit of an extremist and can be very annoying. I think you already have him pegged so carry on.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:58 pmVinnie, you know what though? Freedomrings would be a great handle. Like freedom fries but so much more ironic. It is wasted on him.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:59 pm#164,
Great news!
So, in the “real world†my country, the USA, did not invade and occupy a sovereign nation based on falsehoods and lies and subsequently kill, maim, and terrorize millions of people?
Oh, and also in this “real worldâ€, my nephew is actually sipping a margarita on the beach in Hawaii and not waiting to be killed for what is known globally to be a farce and evil crusade?
Gosh, I’d love to live in your “real world†and not the heinous one that you imply to be all my own delusion.
How cavalier you all are about lives not your own. Perhaps someone needs to change your perspective by making certain that the lives that are in peril are yours. Maybe then you’ll give a flying fcuk.
Comment by Really Fcuked Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Ok, I’m done. You’re an idiot for saying any of those things.
EVERYONE knows I have been a stalwart antagonist of the right wing since day one. I have written extensively in here, and elsewhere condemning the war, and so much more.
So very, very much more.
But you clearly are just a little kid with a big mouth who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground, so I’ve wasted all the time I am going to waste on you kid.
When you come up with a PLAN, then look me up.
In the meantime, light another bong, pierce another appendage and we’ll see you in the funny papers.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:01 pm#169,
Read my comment #171 and then tell me that I need to calm down and be “patient” again.
I’m all for your general strike. I’m also all for revoking the authorization. But sitting around and waiting for someone else (especially the same politicians who have been involved in this from the get go) to doe something about this, well, I’m not for that.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:04 pmCavalier about lives that are not my own…geesh.
Give me a break.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:05 pmHere’s one more standard a-hole troll argument.
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The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.
Comment by freedomrings — June 21, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
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I often agree with zooey:
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Sorry, hadnt read the whole thread. Whats the deal with freedomrings?
Comment by Juan C
He’s nuckin’ futs.
Comment by Zooey — June 21, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
June 25th, 2007 at 10:06 pm#169,
Read my comment #171 and then tell me that I need to calm down and be “patient†again.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
Get your posts straight slim. I never said that. Someone else did.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:06 pm…Cut off his Secret Service Detail…
…then send him…
…ANYWHERE…
…w/out protection…
June 25th, 2007 at 10:07 pmMaybe someone’s addressed this already, but my question is this: What if Cheney says “So what?” We already know he’s got legions of rich buddies who will finance whatever he wants. Could he self-finance his office operations? And doesn’t that sound just like something he’d do?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:10 pm#
We have a illegal immigration problem in this country that is out of control and this is what these idiots are concentrating on?
Comment by michael — June 25, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
We have a health care crisis in this country and immigrantion is all your little brain can think about.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:10 pmI’m all for your general strike. I’m also all for revoking the authorization. But sitting around and waiting for someone else (especially the same politicians who have been involved in this from the get go) to doe something about this, well, I’m not for that.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
Yea? Congratulations. And we are all for defunding the war. But that doesn’t mean when I am going to shoot down legislation when it comes out just because some pot smoking anarachist sitting in his moms basement thinks I should.
You have to grease the wheels sometimes, and sometimes you have to support those whom you otherwise can’t stand in order to get something done. And often it won’t move on YOUR schedule. But THATS LIFE. Thats the game.
So like I said before, unless you are planning on launching a revolution and overthrowing the current government, what plan, if any, do YOU have, other than not doing anything for an hour this fall?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:11 pmHey has Exley commented on Cheney being above the law? Where is he? I know he’s around considering I know him personally. He’s an idiot Republican but a good drinking partner.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:12 pmVicki, the biggest thing he loses is executive priveledge which he has been hiding behind thus far. And then there is the senate ethics committee.
I doubt it will get to that, but it’s going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:12 pmThe Republicans might be getting ready to give up Cheney. Their party is falling to pieces and they have 21 Senators up for re-election in 2008 and then there is a very strong possibility that they will lose the White House in 2008.
Just 574 days until Cheney is definately gone.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:12 pmIf Cheney is not part of the Executive branch, then he will need to turn over his energy papers.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:13 pmOh god, 574 days? I can’t even begin to imagine how much damage they can inflict upon us and others in that amount of time.
UGH
June 25th, 2007 at 10:14 pmThis is a great move by Emanuel.
If Cheney wants to push Congress around in order to kill it, he’s going to have to try to explain his reasoning.
How many Congresspeople are going to stand up and support Cheney’s position in any case?
Cheney’s position is literally insane. I’d love to see the defense.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:14 pm#173,
You may be powerless, but I am not. Do not confuse restraint with apathy.
But don’t worry, if my restraint ends it will not be reported in the comics, but it will be on the front fcuking page.
So, go ahead, continue to be cavalier and aloof about murder and death and humanitarian atrocities perpetrated by your country. It will make it easier for you, I guess, when it is brought into your house.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:15 pmIts another showdown, and it might make a differnece. The trick is for people to get behind it. If we all called our congress men and told them either get behind Rahm ammendment or lose our vote, then we might see some action.
Cheney can’t accept private funds to run a shadow government. He might “appropriate” some funds, but that will likely land him in more trouble.
What will likely happen is Cheney will cave, which means his dirty deeds done in secret will be available for viewing at the National Archives.
Along with his mugshot.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:15 pmWhat I’d love to see is the GOP in congress who vote against it…it would literally be a vote against the constitution.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:15 pmComment by Vinnie — June 25, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Well you are a green Vinnie and greens like global taxation! I see you didn’t take my advice and so you can keep up the fight. So rather than dwelling on global warming or past resentments why not agree to resolve the problem that we can? I’m not above acting like an ass from time to time and even though I think greens are crap I suppose I went to far that day and I apologize for my comments!
Why don’t we just focus on setting a date?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:15 pmGreens also like to think that the earth is going to continue to feed us. It’s the little things that green people like…like life.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:18 pm“You may be powerless, but I am not. Do not confuse restraint with apathy.”
Ok, FTFU, do something then if you are not powerless. Well?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:18 pmSo, go ahead, continue to be cavalier and aloof about murder and death and humanitarian atrocities perpetrated by your country. It will make it easier for you, I guess, when it is brought into your house.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
I am not aloof or cavalier about any murder boy.
You’re just making stuff up now.
But feel free to post ONE post where I demonstrate any apathy whatsoever.
You can’t.
Because I didn’t.
You have got nothing.
No plan. No balls and no vision.
Just a liltle boy with a big fat mouth.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:19 pm“Well you are a green Vinnie and greens like global taxation!”
Hmm, I am not a green and I have never voted for a loser like Nader…I still have never heard of global taxation. That would kinda be impossible. Are you stupid?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:20 pmThanks, MsJoanne (#186)! I didn’t think of that angle. Ewwww…. angle. Makes me think of “Angler.”
June 25th, 2007 at 10:21 pmBut like Jpark said, if you are not so powerless, then DO SOMETHING.
Make us all stand in awe.
Let us read about your “exploits” on the front page as you just claimed we would.
Come on Paul Revere. Lets see your big plans.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:22 pm#196,
Careful what you wish for. It is not a safe assumption that your existence would be guaranteed in any of my solutions.
But you go ahead and continue doing nothing.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:23 pmbut my question is this: What if Cheney says “So what?†We already know he’s got legions of rich buddies who will finance whatever he wants. Could he self-finance his office operations?
Comment by Vicki #182
…Congress deputizes an armed citizen’s militia…
…to invade and occupy his fat a*s…
June 25th, 2007 at 10:23 pmSo, I guess we can refer to him as POS Cheney now. I like this title a lot better.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:25 pmHere’s a list of all your reps, by state. IF you haven’t contacted them, please do so.
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
June 25th, 2007 at 10:25 pmThis is a good plan by Rahm Emmanuel, and while I am no fan of his, I think it behooves us to get behind it, and every other plan the democrats have to BUILD their case for impeachment.
I also think they should vote to defund the war, and to revoke the original authority for the war. And we should “continue” to write them and call them expressing that.
But as for Sam Adams here, unless he’s got the minute men suited up and ready for action, we’re stuck with the form of government we’ve created for ourselves. For better, or for worse.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:26 pmway to go vinnie! … that’s the one…
June 25th, 2007 at 10:26 pm.
Careful what you wish for. It is not a safe assumption that your existence would be guaranteed in any of my solutions.
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Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
Lol.
Better come at me with more than a big mouth and an empty threat boy, or I’ll send you back to that trailer park you were born in with your ass protruding out the corner of your mouth.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:27 pmListen up folks.
We’re graced with the presence of a revolutionist.
This guy is Patrick Henry, John Conners and V, all rolled into one.
And he’s advertising his plans for inssurection, in a blog.
:|
Its gonna be a short war.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:30 pm#197,
Your quote:
As for me, this looks like a good move. Will it go anywhere? I don’t know. But I’ll be goddamned if I’m going to sit back and shoot it down before its out of the gate.
Now, is that quote about some taxation legislation or zoning codes? No. It’s about a situation where hundreds of people are being killed DAILY.
In my book, that’s a cavalier attitude. Why don’t you make the same suggestion, that of taking a “patient” wait-and-see approach, while seeking to end the rape of your daughter?
Does that sound extreme? Well, you would have to add “pending murder” to your daughter’s predicament and then it begins to enter the realm of the situation that we are in.
So, go ahead, tell me again how I should be patient when my nephew’s well-being and very LIFE is in the balance.
Progressive indeed.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:32 pm“Well you are a green Vinnie and greens like global taxation!â€
Hmm, I am not a green and I have never voted for a loser like Nader…I still have never heard of global taxation. That would kinda be impossible. Are you stupid?
Comment by JPark — June 25, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
June 25th, 2007 at 10:35 pmIs your name Vinnie? So, clearly asking me if I’m stupid is in and of itself stupid since you know the answer is contrary to your insinuation JPark. Al Gore wants “global government†as well as Hillary. They want the carbon tax to be GLOBAL. You can look this stuff up and there are numerous YouTube clips of public statements made by these people.
I can go deeper here and talk about Tipper and here use of then Senator Gore to prosecute her war on music. Dennis Kucinich has admitted the same desire for global government and the point of commonality is global warming. What would be possible is in fact a “global government†we can look at the EU and see that in motion.
Now if we disagree on energy and global warming that would be expected. We do agree that Congress is not doing what it should, relating to the massive cries for impeachment by 88% or more of the public! Look, just bury the hatchet and let’s agree to disagree about global warming, 2nd Amendment, Immigration, energy and all of these wedge issues. We agree that there must be an impeachment (the bar was so low for Clinton), we agree there must be a repeal of all of these 9-11 laws since they are Unconstitutional and that the war must end and our military is called home.
Maybe someone’s addressed this already, but my question is this: What if Cheney says “So what?†[...]
Comment by Vicki — June 25, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
yup – see #30 @ 7:51 pm… my attempt at mafia-speak…
but i DO see the benefits of this plan…
i agree with bartlebee – get behind the congress people and tell them how much you appreciate any show of spine and truthtelling:
8 0 0 . 8 2 8 . 0 4 9 8
8 0 0 . 4 5 9 . 1 8 8 7
8 0 0 . 6 1 4 . 2 8 0 3
8 6 6 . 3 4 0 . 2 9 8 1
8 6 6 . 2 2 0 . 0 0 4 4
June 25th, 2007 at 10:40 pm.
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Now, is that quote about some taxation legislation or zoning codes? No. It’s about a situation where hundreds of people are being killed DAILY.
Comment by Fred the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
No genius. This ammendment is not about the war in Iraq.
It has to do with Cheney exempting himself from an executive order requiring the preservation of classified materials.
:|
Come on, just admit it.
You don’t even know what day it is, do you?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:40 pmAgain did anyone watch the video…
Bla bla bla…
Will you impeach him?
No but I will bla bla bla.
Enough of this lame soap opera. What day shall we citizens agree on to stage a national general strike?
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
June 25th, 2007 at 10:42 pmSUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
In my book, that’s a cavalier attitude. Why don’t you make the same suggestion, that of taking a “patient†wait-and-see approach, while seeking to end the rape of your daughter?
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
Oh give me a break.
The fact that I am intelligent enough to know what I can, and cannot do does not make me cavalier, any more than your inability to distinguish between what you can and cannot do, makes you some sort of freedom fighter.
Nor does your quoting star wars, Luke.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:43 pmWe all do support the general strike freedom. Its not till this fall.
In the meantime, pardon us if we don’t abide by your demands that we all shut up.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:45 pmBTW, that last comment was for freedomrings, not you Luke.
You just keep using the schwartz.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:47 pm#213,
You go get him there tiger!
I’m sure that this “procedure” will change EVERYTHING and that after it is passed Cheney will tuck his tail between his legs and leave DC.
And then Gitmo will close.
And then we’ll immediately withdraw from the Middle East.
And then the spying on Americans will stop.
And the Whitehouse will serve ice cream every Sunday to all who stop by.
Enjoy your delusion but don’t come whining to me when reality comes around and kicks your ass (a task so easy my 10 yr old niece could accomplish it).
Cavalier about death and murder and apathetic about it all.
Welcome to Amerika. Land of the wiretapped and home of cowardly.
There’s your factual and indisputable reality.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:53 pmOh give me a break.
The fact that I am intelligent enough to know what I can, and cannot do does not make me cavalier, any more than your inability to distinguish between what you can and cannot do, makes you some sort of freedom fighter.
Nor does your quoting star wars, Luke.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
I’m attempting to turn a leaf here. I’m not going to fight with you, because I need you to pick a date and try to advert a deadly police state from entering our homes. One could imagine that if Cheney can’t be stopped by Congress then he could say or do “anything†at all. Why fight that guy save your strength for the $75.00 per barrel oil that floated into market today.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:54 pmNobody said it would little Jedi.
But in lieu of any groundbreaking wisdom from your direction, all we have is the democracy we have built. And we’ll sink or swim on the strength of that democracy, and our ability to leverage the division of powers as intended by its framers.
If you have some other plan, we’re all ears, but until then you’re just waving around a limp light sabre.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:56 pmAnd uh, freedom rings is it?
Those bells must be getting to you, because the incoherent babble you just directed towards me I haven’t a clue as to its meaning.
Never mind you are responding to a post that was for FtFU, not you.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:59 pmWe all do support the general strike freedom. Its not till this fall.
In the meantime, pardon us if we don’t abide by your demands that we all shut up.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
So why bother then? You and FTFU can do more together than apart. Your cross posting does not help to get a July date for a General Strike. You want to wait till October or November? I’m not going to wait. I have talked to neighbors and friends and pending a date I can count on 23 people (self included). Can we count on you?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:03 pm#219,
Well there BEETLEJUICE, you keep blowing Rahm and bending over for Reid and we’ll see how that works out for you. Because the results that they’ve accomplished so far must certainly be worth all the gallons you’ve had to swallow so far.
Enjoy your ignorance. As nature abhors a vacuum, it has filled you with an abundance of it to compensate for your lack of intelligence. And from what I can see, that must have been a very large vacuum.
Keep on keepin on.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:03 pmoh yea! … in case you didn’t know,
those numbers are for the CAPITAL SWITCHBOARD…
kindly ask for the congress person you wish to speak with…
i’m late for jon!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:04 pm#223,
Unless you meant “CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD” your comment is a redundancy.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:08 pmEnjoy your ignorance. As nature abhors a vacuum, it has filled you with an abundance of it to compensate for your lack of intelligence. And from what I can see, that must have been a very large vacuum.
Keep on keepin on.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
Yea, you weren’t the least bit arrogant coming in here and starting out by calling me ignorant, were you?
Tell you what Luke, next time you decide to call someone ignorant, and then call them arrogant, beat yourself about the head and shoulders until the urge passes.
May the schwartz be with you Luke.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:09 pm“Unless you meant “CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD†your comment is a redundancy”
You just attacked katy for no reason. Way to influence people.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:11 pmOh, and by the way Luke crywalker, in all your windbag rantings in here tonight, you have YET to produce ONE SINGLE IDEA.
Not ONE SINGLE plan or course of action.
All you have done, is condemn those of us who are trying to do something, which of course, gives away your true mission in here.
Indeed me thinks, thou hast not come to bury Ceasar, but to praise him.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:12 pmAnd uh, freedom rings is it?
Those bells must be getting to you, because the incoherent babble you just directed towards me I haven’t a clue as to its meaning.
Never mind you are responding to a post that was for FtFU, not you.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Your just wrath and your flame war will pass. So, your glue is melting and you move to using ad hominem when you could just be friendly. I offer you the other cheek.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:12 pmI’m 57 and well educated. I support national demonstrations, the sooner the better.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:13 pmWell I will be happy to offer you the other cheek too freedomrings.
Pucker up.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:13 pm#225,
Uh, being smarter than you is not arrogance. From what I can see it is better described as being “normal”.
I like the mixed up Star Wars/Space Balls references, though. It displays a lack of continuity that is perfectly consistent with your combined ignorance and apathy.
Good luck, you’re going to need it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:15 pm“Unless you meant “CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD†your comment is a redundancyâ€
You just attacked katy for no reason. Way to influence people.
Comment by JPark — June 25, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
I thought it was funny since she made a CAPITAL capitol mistake. You just love jumping up and pointing fingers JPark. Get some rest!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:16 pm#226,
Actually that was delivered in humor, which obviously was lost on you.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:17 pmAnd he’s advertising his plans for inssurection, in a blog.
:|
Its gonna be a short war.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Shear genius isn’t it, B?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:18 pmWell I will be happy to offer you the other cheek too freedomrings.
Pucker up.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
Great so we are good then! Throw a July date out there but not the 4th since people are all off then.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:18 pm“I thought it was funny since she made a CAPITAL capitol mistake. You just love jumping up and pointing fingers JPark. Get some rest!”
Yup, funny. Or…not. Der.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:22 pmYou’re the one who quoted star wars Chewie.
Here, let me help you.
Yoda, in SWII, approached the concept from a slightly different angle when he said to Luke: “You either ‘do’ or ‘do not’, there is no ‘try’.â€
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 25, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Now a litte life lesson for you Threepio.
Star Wars, was a movie. In a movie, that kind of talk goes.
But in real life, everything we have ever done as the human race has been through growth from failure. It is by our failures that we learn, and get that much closer to success.
Thomas Edison failed thousands of times before creating the first incandescent light bulb, and he said that it was the failures that led to the success.
Babe Ruth hit more home runs than anyone in history at the time. When asked how he did it, he pointed out he also struck out more times than anyone to date. The reason he hit more out of the park, was because he swung more than anyone else.
We learn math, by solving problems. Incorrect answers, lead to correct ones. And nothing in life worth doing is usually easy, or not fraught with failure.
Your absolutism reeks of Bush admin thinking, so as I said, I strongly suspect your real purpose here, is not what you would have us think.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:23 pmBut prove me wrong Darth.
After 5000 words, give us just ONE, that has any sort of plan attached to it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:23 pm“Actually that was delivered in humor, which obviously was lost on you.”
Congrats FTFU, you now think right wing humor is funny.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:24 pmI always wondered how far left you have to go to turn right. Now I know. FTFU left.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:25 pmGreat so we are good then! Throw a July date out there but not the 4th since people are all off then.
Comment by freedomrings — June 25, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
Pucker up, when showing you my other cheek, was an invitation for you to kiss my ass.
Not fall into your trap to get me to publically insight insurrection.
But as for MY offer, for you to kiss my ass, July works for me.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:25 pmYou just attacked katy for no reason. Way to influence people.
Comment by JPark
FtFU sure know how to rally the troops, doesn’t he?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:26 pmSee Freedomrings, on your smartest day…..
June 25th, 2007 at 11:26 pmGood luck, you’re going to need it.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up!
You’re threatening posters who like you want the war ended yesterday. What is your point exactly? Why don’t you relieve some of that anger at a neocon site? Because we all want the same thing you do, especially Bartlebee.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:28 pmThey’re right wing trolls, trying to get people in here to sign onto insurrection.
Look, the one kid, FtFU is talking like a insurrectionist, and Freedom rings is trying to get me to set a date for a general strike, which of course during a time of war could be construed as sedition or treason.
Don’t believe what you see always people.
There is no depth to which they will not stoop.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:28 pmYou’re threatening posters who like you want the war ended yesterday. What is your point exactly?
Comment by shane — June 25, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
He doesn’t want the war over shane, and he certainly doesn’t want what you or I want.
He is a plant.
Nothing more.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:30 pmHe’s trying to draw out rebellion and sedition, so the posters handles can be turned over to the Secret Service, or the FBI, or the DSS, to investigate as possible enemy combatants.
Its an old ploy, they’re just getting better at it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:33 pmHe doesn’t want the war over shane, and he certainly doesn’t want what you or I want.
He is a plant.
Nothing more.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Thanks B. I thought they were trolls posting just to take up space and waste time but I think you’re right. Gracias.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:33 pmIf they can, they’ll try to get you to;
1. Threaten the President
2. Threaten the country
3. Incite rebellion or insurrection
4. threaten lower level cabinet members.
Always be on the lookout for these scum. They are the worst and the lowest this country has to offer. Keep your guard up.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:35 pmBut Bartlebee, if there ploy was to subvert this thread so nobody supported Rahm Emmanuel it worked. So people could we get on track to support his effort.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:35 pmPucker up, when showing you my other cheek, was an invitation for you to kiss my ass.
Not fall into your trap to get me to publically(SIC) insight insurrection.
But as for MY offer, for you to kiss my ass, July works for me.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
Wow so then you are just a paranoid, FOS, POS!
An insurgency, or insurrection, is an armed uprising, or revolt against an established civil or political authority. Persons engaging in insurgency are called insurgents, and typically engage in regular or guerrilla combat against the armed forces of the established regime, or conduct sabotage and harassment in the land in order to undermine the government’s position as leader.
Mmmmmmmm. I am calling for a…………………………………………….
………………………………………………………………………………………..
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
SUPPORT A GENERAL STRIKE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
How shall we define this? Ah… Don’t go out, stay home, don’t participate in anything, don’t buy anything and don’t sell anything!
A revolt would be the last thing but regardless you choose to be a loud mouthed coward talking about Star Wars of all things LOL
A general strike is essentially a day off. Not even a peep or hint of protest.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:35 pmA general strike is essentially a day off. Not even a peep or hint of protest.
Comment by freedomrings
Hey freedomrings, we heard you the first two hundred times. Could we discuss the topic of the thread for just a few minutes?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:38 pm“FtFU sure know how to rally the troops, doesn’t he?”
I can be a jack-a$$ and drive people away but FTFU is the master. It is like he tries to get people who would normally somewhat agree with him to really despise him. Or maybe he is just an extremist, I don’t know.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:38 pmIs Nazirings still yapping?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:39 pmA general strike that impedes the flow of government or the department of defense during a time of war IS inciting rebellion, and can be labeled insurrection. Insurrection does not just involve combat. It can involve sabotage. And sabatoge is anything that interferes or interupts the US government or military during a time of war.
Also, they do not have to ever prosecute anyone for it. Just use it as “probable cause” to put the person on a watch list, and investigate them.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:40 pmTrust me people, these are trolls, who want to usurp the thread and get people to attack any efforts introduced by the left that might have some teeth.
Thats why they’re in here tonight, because this one has teeth.
Thats why FtFU is in here CONDEMNING it. Because it has teeth.
He wants to shoot down support for it before it gets out of the gate.
Meanwhile, if you read my posts, you’ll see I have been steadfast on supporting it in all my posts.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:42 pmAnd Freedom Rings tried to tell everyone to shut up and do a strike.
Why?
A strike for an hour certainly wouldn’t have any teeth, and would only be a symbolic gesture at best. Rahm Emmanuels idea to defund the Vice Presidency certainly carries more symbolic weight than that.
I’ll tell you why.
Because saying you’re willing to shut down the country during a time of war, is enough for your name to go on a possible terrorist list.
Thats why.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:44 pmBy all means, please support another non-binding resolution by Rahm Emmanuel rather than anything meaningful.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:44 pmHey freedomrings, we heard you the first two hundred times. Could we discuss the topic of the thread for just a few minutes?
Comment by shane — June 25, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Yea the topic sure! The one Jack Booted MF declares himself as SITH Lord! They guy in the video wants’ to take away his money even though the entire McCongress is out to lunch. The DF TV guy asks, “So are you going to call for IMPEACHMENT?†McCongress replies, “No that is off the tableâ€
So what do we talk about shane? The weather was nice and global warming today. Wow those Hybrids sure save gas so you can drive as far as you want!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:45 pmThere may be an effort thats legit to do this, I saw something about it earlier, but this thing, this Freedom rings thing, is not part of it. She was trying to get ME to set a date for the strike.
Why would I be the one to set a date for a NATIONAL strike?
Because if I agreed to it, I could be investigated as a possible threat or traitor.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:46 pmHold the VP accountable. Defunding is a game. Defunding might make some people feel better however it plays passive agressive. If the VP is breaking the law then go after him. It is simple. Don’t try to match the Bush administration’s dirty tactics.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:47 pmAnd gee, suddenly after exposing the trolls, instead of refuting me, they say nothing.
And Jake is suddenly here.
Imagine that.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:48 pmAll of this shows one thing.
They are afraid of this ammendment.
They are all in a tizzy over it.
Which is reason enough for me to give it my full and unfettered support.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:49 pmEh, BARTLEBEE, Jake…freedomrings…it doesn’t matter. They are all half or all retarded.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:50 pmIsn’t there a way to oust Rahm Emanuel? His logic is ridiculous. Simply move forward with impeachment proceedings against Mr. Cheney. Rahm’s inept spite game is a waste of time and tax dollars. If he, and the democrats do not have the backbone and integrity to move immediately for impeachment they should all be thrown out of office. Rahm’s logic strikes me as if someone shoots you through he heart that you retaliate by threatening to throw a rock at the shooter. Ridiculous.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:52 pmA general strike that impedes the flow of government or the department of defense during a time of war IS inciting rebellion, and can be labeled insurrection. Insurrection does not just involve combat. It can involve sabotage. And sabatoge is anything that interferes or interupts the US government or military during a time of war.
Also, they do not have to ever prosecute anyone for it. Just use it as “probable cause†to put the person on a watch list, and investigate them.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
LOL You are a pussy! If I want to stay home I can and if we all do that on the same day they will do nothing. We are all on a list numb balls! So, you are willing to live in a police state and you pander to the list takers. If there is an agent here it is YOU. You are one of the agents of FUD. You provoke a response! A provocateur named BARTLEBEE.
1st Amendment is still good the way I see it. I would have to take a day off and waste gas to go to a million man march! So, instead everyone sits home and reads a book! If we can’t do that then what democracy is there? So STFU
June 25th, 2007 at 11:53 pmRahm’s inept spite game is a waste of time and tax dollars. If he, and the democrats do not have the backbone and integrity to move immediately for impeachment they should all be thrown out of office. Rahm’s logic strikes me as if someone shoots you through he heart that you retaliate by threatening to throw a rock at the shooter. Ridiculous.
Comment by faith — June 25, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
See?
Another naysayer magically appears. No one seems to want to see anyone put any effort into defunding the office of vice president.
Question, er, faith is it?
How exactly do you propose we “throw congress out” if they don’t honor your demand for an immediate move for impeachment (which we don’t have the votes for in the Senate)?
How exactly do you recommend we “throw the bums out”?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:56 pmLOL You are a pussy!
Comment by freedomrings — June 25, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Then eat me.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:57 pm1st Amendment is still good the way I see it. I would have to take a day off and waste gas to go to a million man march! So, instead everyone sits home and reads a book! If we can’t do that then what democracy is there? So STFU
Comment by freedomstings — June 25, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Fine.
Then why don’t YOU set the date.
Why would you possibly ask me, someone you’ve never met, to set a date for the supposed 23 people you claim you have “on board”?
Why would you ask a complete stranger, to set the date for a national strike for all of you?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 pmI know why.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
I wanted to do it on the 4th till the 9th but I was informed that that was too soon and many people would be off any way so who would even notice. So how is the 25th?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 pmNo, freedomrings, you will still suck on the 25th.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:00 amThis is not a date freedom rings.
You’re talking about organizing a national strike, and you’re asking me for what date works for me?
You’re no Norma Rae, are you?
Troll.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:01 amSorry freedom. I am not biting. You’ll have to find another sap.
This thread is about an effort by Rahm Emmanuel to leverage the power of the purse provided to congress under our constitution to reign in an executive office run amuck.
That is EXACTLY what Congress is supposed to do, and I am not being deterred by your red herring.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:03 amBARTLEBEE, you are doing a great job.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:07 amFine.
Then why don’t YOU set the date.
Why would you possibly ask me, someone you’ve never met, to set a date for the supposed 23 people you claim you have “on board�
Why would you ask a complete stranger, to set the date for a national strike for all of you?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
I wanted a date that means something. I asked you so that you would STFU and contribute. Some of my wife’s friends at work and mine will or would do it is we are not alone and if there is a date. Honestly, I thought you and the other guy were married the way you were flaming. Anyway, don’t bother helping your IP address and any proxy info are all in the system already. A national strike (not of 1st responders) or whatever you want to call it is safe and legal and best of all cheap! Go on and be a little bitch if you want.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:09 amfreedomrings, August 22nd!!! Isn’t that the day you are enlisting you pussy?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:11 amWell I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not Jpark, and if I have derailed the thread then I’m sorry, but I tend to meet oppostion head on, and I am tired of all the naysayers coming in each time congress gets a plan, and shooting it down before its out of the gate.
I am inclined to believe these people are not really the far left wingnuts they pretend to be, but instead, clever (or not so clever) right wing trolls, planted in here to generate opposition from within the ranks for any plans congress has that might have teeth.
Anyway, good night, and good luck.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:11 amBARTLEBEE, I am rarely serious but I am 100% behind you.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:12 amWhat exactly am I supposed to refute, BARTLEBEE?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:12 amBARTLEBEE, you are doing a great job.
Comment by JPark — June 26, 2007 @ 12:07 am
More FUD
June 26th, 2007 at 12:14 amBARTLEBEE, you have been head-on against the most right-wing trolls. I don’t think that was your intent but once you actually jump into reality world that is what happens.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:14 am. I asked you so that you would STFU and contribute.
Comment by freedomstinks — June 26, 2007 @ 12:09 am
I told you the first time asswipe, don’t tell me, or anyone else in here to shut up and support your bullshit plan that wouldn’t accomplish a damn thing even if you were serious about it, which you’re not.
You’re a lying peice of crap troll, and I’ve got your stink in my nose and I’ll smell you coming next time. Crawl back into your hole troll. No one’s biting.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:14 amRahm > cut the crap and allow Kucinich to impeach Cheney.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:15 amOk.sorry for being unclear J. I’m getting tired.
Tired of trolls, lol.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:16 amJake and freedomrings. BARTLEBEE, a guy who disagrees with me owned you. Hehe. Losers.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:16 amJPark, August 22nd!!! Isn’t that the day you are enlisting you pussy?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:16 amWhat exactly am I supposed to refute, BARTLEBEE?
Comment by Jake — June 26, 2007 @ 12:12 am
You can start with your heredity.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:17 amfreedomrings, you don’t get it do you? You are actually FOR the war. Join up you pathetic pussy.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:17 amIf I voted for a new House of Representatives to stop the war and impeach Bush / Cheney, and they didn’t do so in two years time, I would vote them out.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:17 amI’m supposed to “refute” my heredity?! If I post your name three times, what happens then?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:19 amLOL, BARTLEBEE, that is hereditary equality. If anybody doesn’t get that it is a big insult to the southern folk among us.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:19 amI’m supposed to “refute†my heredity?
Comment by Jake — June 26, 2007 @ 12:19 am
If you need some help with that let me know.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:19 amBeetle Juice, Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:20 amThis is a very interesting discussion fellas.
I am laughing my ass off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 12:21 amIf I voted for a new House of Representatives to stop the war and impeach Bush / Cheney, and they didn’t do so in two years time, I would vote them out.
You are right for once, Jakey. Question is…what do you want YOUR people to do? Did they do the job when they were in office? Heh, Republicans, great governors. LOL
June 26th, 2007 at 12:21 amBARTLEJUICE has left the bldg.
Nite folks…. trolls.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:22 amJake, Bartlebee, and freedomrings = The Three Stooges
June 26th, 2007 at 12:24 amNight BARTLE
June 26th, 2007 at 12:24 amYes, PRIMVS, all from the guy who actually thinks “defunding” Cheney’s West Wing office would not take a law being passed by Congress, meaning the President can’t veto it. Or, are you talking about ForTruth’s upcoming divorce?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:26 amComment by freedomstinks — June 26, 2007 @ 12:09 am
I told you the first time asswipe, don’t tell me, or anyone else in here to shut up and support your bullshit plan that wouldn’t accomplish a damn thing even if you were serious about it, which you’re not.
You’re a lying piece(SIC) of crap troll, and I’ve got your stink in my nose and I’ll smell you coming next time. Crawl back into your hole troll. No one’s biting.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 26, 2007 @ 12:14 am
See what you did to my screen name? There you are you typed it in, “freedomstinks†and think about that you coward. I guess that is your ultimate message for the thread. For you freedom stinks! Now as for the rest what are you going to do? Will you type at me some more. Call me more names? Express even more doubt about something that would work? You are negative and are an agent of FUD.
The last part is an opinion of yours and unlike the fact that you’re a Star Wars quoting idiot you can’t prove that I am a troll or whatever your paranoia tells you I am.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:27 amFor the record, the only INDEPENDENT Senator I could even lay claim to is doing exactly what I want him doing in opposing the Democrats on the Iraq war.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:29 amWhat is “FUD”?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:30 amfear uncertainty & doubt
June 26th, 2007 at 12:32 amI can be a jack-a$$ and drive people away but FTFU is the master. It is like he tries to get people who would normally somewhat agree with him to really despise him. Or maybe he is just an extremist, I don’t know.
Comment by JPark
Did you see Bartlebee’s suggestion on FTFU and frings. I think he’s probably correct. Or else it’s a serious full moon.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:35 amComment by Jake — June 26, 2007 @ 12:29 am
Excuse me did I read the right? Your for the war?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:35 amDid you see Bartlebee’s suggestion on FTFU and frings. I think he’s probably correct. Or else it’s a serious full moon.
Comment by shane — June 26, 2007 @ 12:35 am
You think? Sorry if that was rude but you can also GFY
June 26th, 2007 at 12:39 amYes, PRIMVS, all from the guy who actually thinks “defunding†Cheney’s West Wing office would not take a law being passed by Congress, meaning the President can’t veto it. Or, are you talking about ForTruth’s upcoming divorce?
Comment by Jake — June 26, 2007 @ 12:26 am
What the hell are you talking about?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:41 amBARTLEBEE, I am rarely serious but I am 100% behind you.
Comment by JPark
I’m behind you too Bartlebee. And thanks for fighting for us all.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:46 amshane, BARTLEBEE is totally correct tonight.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:47 amIf I voted for a new House of Representatives to stop the war and impeach Bush / Cheney, and they didn’t do so in two years time, I would vote them out.
Comment by Jake
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, gives a shit about what you would do Jakeoff.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:48 amLOL, Jake, keep it up. It appears even the right are not real fans of you (Primus and freedomrings). LOL, it is about time you are blasted by your own you pathetic little toad.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:49 amWhat the hell are you talking about?
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
I’d be interested in knowing that as well, Mr P. Truth’s not even here, and his divorce is brought up? What the hell?
June 26th, 2007 at 12:49 amLOL, shane, Primus and freedomrings are not big fans of his I hear.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:50 amUgh, Zoo, don’t bring up divorce!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 12:50 amYou think? Sorry if that was rude but you can also GFY
Comment by freedomrings
Sorry if that was rude, GFY? Strike this asshole.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:53 amWhat the hell are you talking about?
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Jake doesn’t have a effing clue. He just talks.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:54 amshane, BARTLEBEE is totally correct tonight.
Comment by JPark
I believe so.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:55 amSorry girls, but I had to eat dinner. Let’s see if I can respond to your lies, half-truths, and all out asinine assertions.
#237 – The actual quote was as follows:
There is an axiom in business that says: “Do not confuse efforts with results.†Yoda, in SWII, approached the concept from a slightly different angle when he said to Luke: “You either ‘do’ or ‘do not’, there is no ‘try’.â€
I used the Star Wars reference to help explain the concept of the axiom, which is a complex enough one that when it is explained during your studies when pursuing an MBA it takes numerous hours to fully analyze and understand. Which is why the Yoda quote is used so often to aid in the understanding of the concept. Unfortunately both descriptions cleared your head by a number of feet.
And as far as the “life lessons†that seem so taxing for you, tell me what you have learned about the “tactics†being employed by the current Democratic leadership (Pelosi, Reid, Emanuel). How did the non-binding resolution go? How are the Gonzales hearings going? How did the effort to repeal the warrantless wiretaps go? How did the TIMETABLEs go?
Yes, the Babe struck out a lot. But he did hit the ball frequently. The horses that you are chaining your wagons to have not even come close enough to register a foul tip. So I guess that the lesson that you’ve learned from life is – stick with the losers because one day, statistically, they have to win something.
Good lesson. Hope that works for you.
#238,
From my comment #127:
If you want to experience more silence (and even censorship from this site as well) then make the suggestion that the AUMF be revoked by the new Democratic majority congress. Keeping in mind, of course, that such a tactic will require only a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in congress and could NOT BE VETOED, ie; it would work perfectly.
#239,
There is only humor. It is you, just like your neo-con counterparts, who make everything partisan and employ a team mentality that is sophomoric and simpleton in nature.
#240,
More simpleton partisan nonsense. Do you have a mind of your own or do you need to get back to me after you check in with your party representative?
#244,
I threatened no one. I assume that you are referencing my comment where I pointed out that Amerikans are too cavalier about the urgency of the Iraq atrocity because the threat of harm does not exist like it does for Iraqis or our service members and their families. I postulated that Amerikan’s attitudes might change if it were somebody they care about being in harms way, namely themselves.
Sophisticated concept, I know.
#246,
Here is your outright lie based upon nothing but a fantasy of your limited intellect:
He doesn’t want the war over shane, and he certainly doesn’t want what you or I want.
He is a plant.
Nothing more.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — June 25, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
I think what you meant to do was call me a “communist†or something of that nature. I believe that’s what the coward’s manual calls for but you’ll have to look it up because I don’t have one. I know that you do because that is the most reasonable explanation for your “text book†example of cowardly behavior.
#249,
Boo. (be sure and change your shorts before returning to the computer to avoid electrical shock due to the extreme wetness)
#253,
I thought it was pretty clear that I’m “FED THE FCUK UP!†with cowards and “progressives†who forgive themselves of murder by blaming it on someone else while doing NOTHING to stop it. Sorry you fall into that group but that is your choice.
#255,
Can you be any more of a coward? You are so afraid of being accountable for your actions that you choose to do nothing. Well, here’s some logic that you’ll learn if you ever go to college: Doing nothing is doing something, it’s called complicit enabling.
The rest of the pathetically cowardly comments aren’t even worth addressing. Other than from a standpoint of illustrating why the “progressive†movement doesn’t accomplish anything, which is because they are too afraid to do anything. A catch 22 for the courage-challenged.
Good luck to you, you’re going to need it.
June 26th, 2007 at 1:05 amFAN-FREAKIN-TASTIC!!!!!!!! If you haven’t already called Emauel’s office and that of your Representative’s in support of this amendment, DO SO IMMEDIATELY!!
Because The Dick is by his own admission NOT part of the Executive Branch, he should be stripped of his security and WH passes, removed from the VP s residence and offices, and so on. If it looks like The Dick, talks like The Dick, and walks like The Dick, it IS A DICK.
So which Branch does The Dick swing from?
June 26th, 2007 at 1:23 amUgh, Zoo, don’t bring up divorce!!!
Comment by JPark
Why not? I love my divorce. I love it so much, I want to marry it. :D
Yeah, I’m nuts.
June 26th, 2007 at 1:27 amVideo…
Rahm: Bla bla bla…
HARDON: Will you impeach him?
Rahm: No but I will bla bla bla.
Enough! More BS
June 26th, 2007 at 1:34 amYep. Shouldn’t be able to have it both ways…defund the Bastard.
June 26th, 2007 at 2:56 amBS! De-funding is NOT ENOUGH. Call your Senators and Congressman and tell them–
June 26th, 2007 at 6:33 amit’s time that people get behind Dennis Kucinich’s IMPEACHMENT INITIATIVE.
This is just a lot of blow by a DLC democrat. Rahm loves the limelight. To bad this will go nowhere or accomplish anything.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:04 amToy politics!
June 26th, 2007 at 8:05 amSorry to come late to the party but read this comparison of Star Wars to our country’s politics. It’s quite interesting:
http://scorpionbowl.blogspot.com/2007/05/george-lucas-american-orwell.html
And may the force be with you.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:48 amSorry girls, but I had to eat dinner. Let’s see if I can respond to your lies, half-truths, and all out asinine assertions.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 26, 2007 @ 1:05 am
So lets see, I say goodnight, and over a half hour later our rabid would be anarchist comes wandering back in claiming “he had to eat dinner”.
LOL.
Mom’s can be tough about that stuff, to be sure. But does anyone find it unusual that he “HAD” to eat dinner in the middle of a debate?
A few “fun facts” about mr “Fed the Fcuk Up”s dinner story.
A. Doesn’t it seem just a little odd that he “HAD” to eat dinner? (Unless mom made him)
B. Do people usually eat dinner at close to midnight?
C. His last post was 11:17 PM. He came back at 1:05 in the morning, claiming the reason he couldn’t respond to me was because he “had to eat dinner”. What kind of dinner takes almost 2 hours to eat?
Now, normally I’d respond to his line by line post but its clear to me at least, that this clown is no far left wingnut just trying to fight the good fight, but is instead a lying sack of crap troll.
Its obvious he lied about “having to eat dinner” and therefore he deserves no itemized response.
I was here all night for anyone to refute, but he didn’t come to me when I was here. Like that other troll freedomdingdong, (who is probably him), he waited until I LEFT, before taking me on.
So piss on em. Piss on the trolls.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:43 amWell, I hope he’s serious about this. The idiocy of Cheney’s position needs to be exposed for what it is. Just plain old, “I’ll do whatever I damn well please and if you try to stop me, I’ll flatten you.”
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I can hear the Publicans on the floor pissing and moaning about victimization by the meanie Dems right now.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:45 amAnd one final point on Mr Fed the Fcuk Up.
In all his rantings he STILL has not come up with ONE SINGLE IDEA. Not one. He spends 5000 words condemning me as a coward and a traitor and calling me guilty of murder, because I dare to voice support for Rahm Emmanuels plan to defund the Vice Presidency, but he himself, even after I asked him repeatedly, has not offered in ANY of his posts, one, single solitary idea, plan or strategy that he supposedly thinks would do more good than my supporting Congress.
No plan. No ideas. No strategy.
Just running his mouth, calling me a murderer, and offering no plan of his own.
Which is 100 percent proof that he is a troll plant, nothing more.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:50 amRahm Emmauel has a good idea. Will it fly? Who knows. But I’m not gonna shoot it down before it even gets a chance to get off the ground.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:08 amThere will be no impeachment, this action of defunding will not happen either. Gonzo will be there till the end and the war will continue until the next prez….face the fact and move on to more constructive actions.
But it will end eventually…. once that happens the wheels of justice will being to move. It may take years or decades but this administration will eventually held accountable. It took the Jews decades to bring Eichman to justice but they did and the same will happen here. This administration will spend the rest of their lives and all the money they have made on legal bills and defense. Sure their corporation buddys will set up a defense fund but that will end eventually, plus look how good that worked out for Scooter… The key here is patience and understading it is a long road. I realize with Americans dying in Iraq that is difficult, the only thing that can stop that is the troops, if they wanted it over it would be. The repub’s wont and the Dem’s can’t…. need a majority to break a filibuster and 2/3rds to override a veto they do not have either. So all we can do now is dig in a take a deep breath….
p.s. FtFU if you are really are working on your MBA or perhaps PhD I would suggest retaking a humanities class or 2. Maybe picking up a book about Gandhi or Dr. King or just getting your money back. Because so far you have not learned a thing concerning that subject or maybe you have but are just ignorant.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:09 amTweety: “What happens if he thumbs his nose at you and tell the Democratic legislators to go to hell…are you gonna impeach him?!”
Rahm: “No…no.”
And that is exactly why Cheney gets away with his criminality. To Rahm and his conservative Beltway consultants it is inconceivable to do what must be done. Our founders provided us with the remedy of impeachment specifically for a man like Dick Cheney, but the establishment Dems are too cowardly to use it.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:01 pmNever thought I’d say this, but RAHM EMMANUEL ROCKS!
June 26th, 2007 at 1:58 pmWar4sale is pretty much on the money. But I am still think that in SPITE of the lack of balls demonstrated by the 110th congress, that the will be FORCED to impeach before this year is out.
That is my prediction.
June 26th, 2007 at 2:12 pmChris Matthews, is, tragically, right. The “Big Dick” won’t ever be held accountable because he IS above the law, he knows it and this will be forgotten in a week just like every other crime he has committed in the last 6 years. The media will barely touch it, US citizens are more interested in celebrity culture and the Bush administration is laughing all the way to the bank as our troops, their troops and civillians die to enrich the corporations and their shareholders (Cheney, Rumsfeld et al) that are making a killing on this war. Dont forget, these guys are war profiteers, there primary interest is to move their personal agendas forward under the guise of a “war on terrorism” It’s hubris at its best and its incredibly sad, especially for the dead and their families.
June 26th, 2007 at 3:30 pm#330,
Thank you for the laugh einstein. Your only retort to my exposing your lies and cowardice is to question why I “had” to eat dinner, why such a late meal, and then how long it took for the meal. Priceless. For the sake of closure, I will put to rest these great mysteries that so befuddle your mind.
1. Being a member of the human species, my body requires regular intakes of sustenance for energy purposes and life purposes. Therefore I HAVE to eat at least one meal a day. What does your species do?
2. I live on the west coast, TP times are east coast. Let me know if you have trouble with the math.
3. Two hours for dinner is not unusual. Dining out and eating at fast food restaurants can be faster, but when one prepares and cooks their own meals and then dines on them, 2 hours is not that much time.
Now, I will bother with your limited intellect and considerable ignorance no further. Good luck to you.
June 26th, 2007 at 4:18 pmWake up, people! Our constitution is jeopardized, comprised, and bolderized by the likes of Cheney who learned all of this at the knee of his mentor, Richard Nixon. It is mother’s milk to these suckers.
June 26th, 2007 at 4:42 pmWhy are they afraid to impeach him? This administration is making so much money and leaving our country for shit!
June 26th, 2007 at 7:47 pm