White House opposes declassifying WMD report.
By on Jun 25th, 2007 at 10:32 am
White House opposes declassifying WMD report.
“The White House is resisting a move by both Republicans and Democrats to fully declassify a Senate report on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction,” believing the declassification “would trigger another round of negative news media coverage and Democratic-led congressional hearings, said a Senate Republican, who asked to remain anonymous because of ongoing private discussions.”
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these are not the droids you are looking for…. (waving my hands in front of your faces)…..
June 25th, 2007 at 10:38 amWell DUH!.. unless of course there’s anything in it that vindicates what the Republicans did…. bets?
Idiots.. They might as well have told us what’s in it.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:39 amHow much more, people?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:39 amWhat will it take?
Once again, GWB giving the US and the world the middle finger.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:39 amGDumbya: “The truth . . . you can’t handle the truth!”
June 25th, 2007 at 10:43 amHmmm, let’s see now…
No, they’re not under here.
Uh Uh, don’t see any WMD’s over there.
Here? Nope.
This was funny enough to BabyBush to do a standup over, but when it comes to the truth; fog’et about it!
And when is Cheney going to get de-classified?
June 25th, 2007 at 10:44 amAnother round of negative news coverage for the WH is not a good enough reason not to declassify the WMD report.
The blogosphere should create a shitstorm of negative news every single time the WH refuses to do what is right and legal.
Of course, that would mean perpetual shitstorm….
June 25th, 2007 at 10:46 amWow — I can’t believe that the White House is giving us an honest reason for once! That they would actually say they don’t want to declassify something that would make them look bad instead of giving us the usual crapola about “national security” means they are either getting more truthful or they have become so confident in their power they are just getting more brazen (I vote for the latter).
June 25th, 2007 at 10:47 am“negative news coverage” is just their way of referring to “the truth”.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:48 amNot just an impeachable offense, but one worthy of treason…. http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/10/con04438.html
sick sick bastards….
June 25th, 2007 at 10:48 amAnd of course news coverage is predominant in the White House’s criteria for classification of information.
It’s not US vs. communism or facism or terrorism… it’s US vs. the Press.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:49 amMission Accomplished!
June 25th, 2007 at 10:50 amWho cares what the Bush Regime wants. Release the report in its entirety. No redactions of any kind. If Bush does not like it, then he can resign and go into exile with his entire family to Paraguay.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:54 amIt sounds like they already DID tell us what’s in it.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:58 amWhat does Occam’s Razor tell you about the ODDS that NORAD would be running a series of drills on the morning of 9/11 designed specifically to simulate an attack against America involving hijacked planes flown into buildings?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:00 amWhat does Occam’s Razor tell you about FEMA having been prepositioned in New York for the drill – which commenced at the same moment the first tower was struck?
What does Occam’s Razor tell you about the warning sent to Israeli Nationals two hours before the first plane struck?
Ignoring everything you have seen and heard to brainwash you to the contrary in its aftermath, what are the odds that a man in a cave could beat all of the defenses of the United States of America by coincidentally timing his attack to coincide with a total shut down of NORAD?
Occam’s razor states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating, or “shaving off”, those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory.
Pieces of aircraft were scattered over a five mile area in Pennsylvania.
WTC 7 – though untouched by an aircraft, fell directly into its own footprint less than two hours after its owner ordered the fire department to pull back from the structure in order to “pull it.”
5 Israeli Mossad Agents with explosives expertise were arrested for filming the destruction of the twin towers. Their film has never been made public. They failed seven polygraph tests. They were quietly deported to Israel.
Norm Mineta testified before the 9/11 Commission that he personally witnessed Cheney commanding one of his subordinates in the bunker on the morning of 9/11 to allow the approaching aircraft to strike the Pentagon uncontested.
The manuevers made by the planes that struck both the Pentagon and the second WTC tower could not possibly have been made by any first time pilot – according to aviation experts.
Where are the NSA Spy Satellite photos of the “757″ striking the Pentagon?
Where is the video that was shot by the Dancing Israelis arrested on 9/11?
Where is the flight manifest including Arab names on any of the flights on 9/11?
Two planes hit two buildings in New York, yet three buildings fell down straight into their own footprint.
A man said by his flight instructor not to be able to fly at all performed a perfect 270 degree corkscrew descent over the heavily fortified Pentagon as Cheney ordered the stand down of air defenses (per Norm Mineta) – and struck the target with military precision (according to the FAA controllers watching it all on their radar screens).
Where are the radar videos of that flight? Where are the videos of that 757? Where are the satellite images of that plane?
I am with you Marie! I got a pointy stick (well, not yet. but I am saving up for one at Wal-Mart)! But if you are willing to go to the WH and light yourself on fire in front of the Gate, I will light up right there with you.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:02 amI mean WTF! My life ain’t going to get any better sitting around here typing on this damn thing.
Remember the monks in Vietnam that would sit and lite themselves up and never move or scream?
Now that’s a damn protest!
effin “Drum Circles”!! Are they on crack? Fill the drums with feces and sling ‘em on the WH lawn!
Of course, they would just have some “legalized american” clean it up for 5.15 per hour.
But its the thought that counts.
Would look good on Countdown and Colbert Report though, wouldn’t it?
Comment by ace — June 25, 2007 @ 11:00 am
Plunger, is that you? I could have sworn this thread was about WMD.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:12 amThe Senate report’s heading: “WMD in Iraq: Great Myths and Other Tall Tales”
June 25th, 2007 at 11:13 amStarting new movement! Right here!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:16 amThe Feces Plan!
Every day 100 true Americans go to the WH and fling handfuls of feces on the lawn!
Then, 200
then 400…
then, someday soon, ONE MILLION true Americans carrying their own fecal statement of outrage, will bury the WH in an avalanche of protest-poo!
Where are the radar videos of that flight? Where are the videos of that 757? Where are the satellite images of that plane?
Comment by ace
And why have we never heard recordings of the air traffice controllers when four flights were off course, not even a transcript.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:27 amSign me up.
I’d like to dump a truckload of shit on Chimpy’s shoes.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:27 amAce: why do you hijack every thread with your insane conspiracy theories? Is your own life so devoid of any meaning that you must find it in a fantasy world, spinning a story in which you are the hero who fights an evil cabal of inhuman with The Truth – something that is so evident to you, but which the other people just refuse to accept in spite of your best efforts.
Get a life loser.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:31 amI’m guessing it would be embarassing to the White House,
June 25th, 2007 at 11:32 amwhen it is revealed the only hard copy evidence of WMDs in Iraq
are Donald Rumsfelds sales receipts.
Is your own life so devoid of any meaning that you must find it in a fantasy world, spinning a story in which you are the hero who fights an evil cabal of inhuman with The Truth – something that is so evident to you, but which the other people just refuse to accept in spite of your best efforts.
Get a life loser.
Comment by MAF54
..if the shoe fits!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:33 amLOL
Neocons HATE the truth.
It interferes greatly with their “plot”.
If Americans weren’t already in debt by the time they get out of college, we’d have a better chance of overthrowing this broken Democracy of ours. But it’s hard to revolt when debt collectors are threatening your tiny, meaningless existence.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:36 amGet a life loser.
Comment by MAF54
Says the idiot that believed there were WMDs in Iraq…or still believes?
A discussion with MAF54 back in 2003:
MAF54: You, unAmericans, we will be greeted as liberators.
Hahahaha, MORON.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:38 amGet a life loser.
Comment by MAF54
Have you looked into a mirror lately, Frank?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:39 amGreat posts as always, ace.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:39 am#25: But what is the truth? Something we create or something objective that would exist even without us? I, and many neocons, think that it is the former. We create our own legends, truths and beliefs. We judge ourselves, we mould ourselves and we dictate our own path. We live our lives born from oblivion; bear children, hellbound as ourselves; go into oblivion. There is nothing else. Existence is random and has meaning apart from what we choose to impose. We are free to scrawl our own design on this morally blank world.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:43 amOf course, that would mean perpetual shitstorm….
Comment by Zooey
Uh, Zooey, we already have one of those going on and on and on…
June 25th, 2007 at 11:46 am“We are free to scrawl our own design on this morally blank world.”
Comment by MAF54
Hey, I think I’ve seen some of your work, dude!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:48 amHow long does it take you to do a whole railroad car, anyways?
I, and many neocons, think that it is the former. We create our own legends, truths and beliefs. We judge ourselves, we mould ourselves and we dictate our own path.
Comment by MAF54
Words of wisdom from one who chooses to be seen as a notorious pedophile.
Sorry, but “the truth” is not something you pull out of your ass. That would be Jeff Gannon’s wristwatch. Tick-tock.. tick-tock… tick-tock…
The Legend of “MAF54″ indeed…
June 25th, 2007 at 11:50 amWho cares what the Bush Regime wants. Release the report in its entirety. No redactions of any kind. If Bush does not like it, then he can resign and go into exile with his entire family to Paraguay.
Comment by Jay Randal — June 25, 2007 @ 10:54 am
I think he would prefer Albania.
And
Starting new movement! Right here!
The Feces Plan!
Every day 100 true Americans go to the WH and fling handfuls of feces on the lawn!
Comment by churchdog — June 25, 2007 @ 11:16 am
I want the concession stand outside the whitehouse that sells little bags of feces for $3.00 each so tourists can fling them at the lawn. I would be able to retire in a year or two.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:53 amGet a life loser.
Comment by MAF54 — June 25, 2007 @ 11:31 am
So you think that your wonderful, perfect government is not capable of conspiring to plan an attack against its own people and put the blame on someone else?
Google “Operation Northwoods” and do a little reading, and come back here and give us a report on what you think.
Besides, maybe you’d like to take a stab at some of the questions posed by Ace. Maybe you can explain how building 7 collapsed in the same manner as the twin towers when it had not been hit by a jet. It is not a “conspiracy theory” that it collapsed in the same exact manner as a building being brought down by a demolition crew. If you disagree, prove it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:54 amIf you disagree, prove it.
Comment by WC
he cant challenge it. The worst thing besides not knowing the truth is KNOWING THE TRUTH.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 amI want the concession stand outside the whitehouse that sells little bags of feces for $3.00 each so tourists can fling them at the lawn. I would be able to retire in a year or two.
Comment by Art — June 25, 2007 @ 11:53 am
Look at that!
10 minutes into the Feces Plan and we have our first Profiteer!
I love it!
It’s like the WPA! Get America back on it’s feet, one bowel movement at a time!
You go ART!
June 25th, 2007 at 12:01 pm#34: I don’t have to prove it. It is you who make extraordinary claims and therefore it is you who’s required to provide extraordinary evidence. So far I have seen nothing.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:01 pmOne more thing about 9/11 and that’s it from me (unless MAF puts up a challenge).
I thought it was awful damned convenient that we identified the hijackers as quickly as we did. We had the names AND pictures from airport cameras of the hijackers. We also linked them to a terrorist organization, which obviously means that they were “known or suspected” terrorists.
Couple this with the fact that our intelligence agencies detected increased “chatter” during the summer of 2001 indicating activity by terrorists, which led to the request for Cheney to create a Terrorism Task Force (which never met), and the infamous PDB of 8/6/01. Yet as we now know, Bush didn’t do jack shit.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:03 pmUh, Zooey, we already have one of those going on and on and on…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I mean even worse. :)
June 25th, 2007 at 12:03 pmI don’t have to prove it. It is you who make extraordinary claims and therefore it is you who’s required to provide extraordinary evidence. So far I have seen nothing.
Comment by MAF54 — June 25, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
Explain how Building 7 collapsed in the same manner as the Twin Towers. You can’t. If your answer is “I don’t know” then it should raise some questions. However, in your zeal to kiss a little Bush ass, you are not going to question anything.
It had not been hit by a jet, only some debris from the other towers. There weren’t any major fires, only minor ones. It didn’t suffer a partial collapse…the entire building was brought down.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:08 pmthe entire building was brought down.
Comment by WC
Furthermore, where are the tapes the FBI still holds of the Pentagon crash? I mean, it would be terrific PR to get the worst chauvinism from US citizens. Why the BBC reported that WTC 7 had fallen 5 minutes before it actually fell? How can you find molten metal from a combustion process at sufficient high temperature that lasted seconds? But, my personal favorite: How can you remove EVIDENCE as sell it to China when it is the very big No-No of Criminal Science?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:14 pmNot too long ago I saw a video documentary on the Web about 9/11. It did address building demolitions. In one still photo shown in the film, there is a picture of a steel beam that had been sliced at a perfect 45 degree angle. It was also shown that demolition crews install explosives on steel beams of buildings in the same manner…a 45 degree angle. This allows the structure to collapse in such a manner that it implodes…it falls into its own footprint.
However, seeing as how most of the scrap steel was shipped off to a foreign country in record time, we’ll never know the real truth.
I’m just sayin…
June 25th, 2007 at 12:14 pmIt was definitely an inside job.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:19 pmMaybe the senate can just say they aren’t covered.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:21 pmHow can you remove EVIDENCE as sell it to China when it is the very big No-No of Criminal Science?
Comment by Juan C — June 25, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
That’s what I’d like to know. At the very minimum, metallurgy experts should have been able to spend weeks, if not months, looking at all the debris and trying to learn from what happened. It seems to me that it would have been invaluable especially considering that what we learned from the collapse could have been used in future construction to help prevent another disaster. After all, it’s not every day that a jetliner flies into a skyscraper.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:21 pm#34: I don’t have to prove it. I don’t have to prove anything. It’s you idiots in the “reality-based community” who are all hung up on having “proof” for everything. It’s much easier for a neocon like me. All I have to do is make pronouncements about how the world is, according to me, and then I accuse anyone who disagrees with me of being a “moonbat” or traitor.
Comment by MAF54, translated by mikey r — June 25, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
June 25th, 2007 at 12:29 pmOh, and one more thing. Several months ago I saw a show on Modern Marvels (Discovery channel, I think) about the construction of new skyscrapers in Japan. Obviously one of the concerns is fire control. They showed a picture of a helicoptor/tanker that could fly up to the levels of a fire and use a water cannon to shoot water into the floors that are on fire.
Questions: did we have such a machine in New York on 9/11? If not, why not? Do we have them now? Again, if not, then why not?
The fires likely could have been put out and the Twin Towers could have been saved.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:34 pmThe most compelling theory that I have heard about selling off the steel to China and shipping it out the very next day, was that the construction of the towers was supervised by the Port Authority and that they summised that the steel wasn’t up to the standards that it was supposed to be in the first place. They went on the cheap when they built it, and they were affraid that that in itself would bring on tremendous lawsuits against Jersey and the Port Authotity and the City of New York. The fact that they arrainged the deal almost overnight lends credence to the fact that it was well known at the highest levels and they were acting to protect “big business” once again.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:38 pmWhaddya wanna bet the Chinese did the testing on the scrap and are using the evidence as leverage on Bush?
Meanwhile, back on topic: This is just a small distraction. They are hoping if we concentrate on getting this WMD report released, we will back off Cheney. That’s where the real plums are.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:47 pmWhaddya wanna bet the Chinese did the testing on the scrap and are using the evidence as leverage on Bush?
Comment by SKdeA — June 25, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
You don’t think holding our economy by the balls (with all of Bush’s debt) is leverage enough?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:56 pmComment by churchdog — June 25, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Sounds plausible. The documentary I saw states that the towers were designed to survive a hit by a 737, and showed that the size and fuel capacity of that model jet was not that far off from the jets that did hit on 9/11.
Comment by SKdeA — June 25, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Isn’t Paris supposed to get out of jail this week? This, coupled with the CIA releasing details on their past activities, should provide enough distraction.
Can the early release of the findings of the JFK assassination investigation be far behind?
June 25th, 2007 at 12:59 pmWhaddya wanna bet the Chinese did the testing on the scrap and are using the evidence as leverage on Bush?
Comment by SKdeA — June 25, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
I hadn’t thought of that…but yeah, could factor in.
Meanwhile, back on topic: This is just a small distraction. They are hoping if we concentrate on getting this WMD report released, we will back off Cheney. That’s where the real plums are.
Cheney stopped filing these reports in 2002. Before the lead-up to the war. I think this issue of WMD misinformation is tied into Cheney investigation. After all, it was his office and his Office of Special Plans that cooked the books on CIA info.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:08 pmAce – Good job pissing off that Pervert MAF54…he is a sick bastard, everything MAF54 posts is pure crap anyway. I never read his stupid crappy posts anymore, pure neocon dribble.
IGNORE THE TROLLS – Debate good, MAF54 perverted
June 25th, 2007 at 2:22 pm“Negative news media coverage”???? Oh, that’s a legitimate reason to supress it. Whiner.
Well, at least they’re not bleating, “National Security” or “Executive Privilege,” those last refuges of traitors.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:01 pmIs there something they don’t want us to know?
June 25th, 2007 at 3:05 pm…White House continues to keep head deeply inserted in anus…
June 25th, 2007 at 3:20 pmSaying something is to avoid “negative media coverage” is not a “national security” objective, but to hide embarassment.
The basis for the refusal to declassify the information is in contravention to the requirements for classification: That it be related to national security.
BTW: OVP has legal requirements to comply with classification: 32 CFR 2800.
June 25th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThe ONLY reason that there would be “negative media coverage”, especially considering that the MSM is a corporate-owned LAPDOG.
is that the WMD information CERTAINLY shows that Bush and his CRIMINALS have LIED to the AMERICAN PEOPLE about WMD in order to
invade Iraq…
If it showed that there WERE WMD’s and that the BushCriminals were telling the TRUTH, wouldn’t Rush/Hannity be SHOUTING it?
June 25th, 2007 at 5:00 pmYup…
I, and many neocons, think that it is the former. We create our own legends, truths and beliefs. We judge ourselves, we mould ourselves and we dictate our own path. We live our lives born from oblivion; bear children, hellbound as ourselves; go into oblivion. There is nothing else. Existence is random and has meaning apart from what we choose to impose. We are free to scrawl our own design on this morally blank world.
Comment by MAF54 — June 25, 2007 @ 11:43 am
We also like to plagiarize Rorschach from Watchmen, and we also like to run around like superheroes with stained undies on our heads pretending to be like him.
June 25th, 2007 at 5:19 pmWe also like to plagiarize Rorschach from Watchmen
Comment by Luis M
oh nice catch. Very nice.
June 25th, 2007 at 6:01 pmLet’s hope someone leaks the classified stuff to a courageous blog whose staff doesn’t mind spending a couple years in prison.
June 25th, 2007 at 6:43 pmNeocon: “But what is the truth? Something we create or something objective that would exist even without us?”
The universe existed for about 15 billion years before man. How do we know? Simple. We can see light which began its journey to our eyes billions of years ago. This “we make truth” mantra has got to be the most arrogant, egocentric piece of philosophical claptrap in the history of philosophy. I question the sanity of anyone who adheres to it.
June 25th, 2007 at 6:49 pmThis “we make truth†mantra has got to be the most arrogant, egocentric piece of philosophical claptrap in the history of philosophy. I question the sanity of anyone who adheres to it.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — June 25, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Well, the idea that life is a subjective experience has been discussed in countless contexts, from the ancient mystic philosophies to the most modern scientific theories. The empirical “We can see light which began its journey to our eyes billions of years ago.” doesn’t settle the question of whether the world is illusory or not. It would seem obvious, BTW, that anyone seeking “objective” proof of the world’s subjectivity is, perforce, on a fools errand.
The neocom’s distorted version of the idea that we create reality holds that a ’successful’ life is created at someone else’s expense.
“Is it reality, or is it not reality? All things are reality. Even if only one is imagining it, it is a reality in that the thought has been offered and someone, who has the ability to translate that vibration, will perceive it. It must be fair to say that anything that can be perceived must be reality. Because, as creators, your reality depends upon what you are willing to imagine and allow.” — Abraham
From: http://www.abraham-hicks.com/
June 25th, 2007 at 7:58 pmhttp://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=31
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2924848130992296779
June 25th, 2007 at 8:29 pmWe’ve had plenty of WMD reports released. If it will prevent even one terrorist attack to NOT declassify this one, I’m all for it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:59 pmWe’ve had plenty of WMD reports released. If it will prevent even one terrorist attack to NOT declassify this one, I’m all for it.
Comment by Jake — June 25, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Is there anyone NOT on Jake’s ‘ignore list’ who would like to respond to this? Actually, is there anyone not on Jake’s ignore list…? I figure I must be on it… after all, I’ve seen him described as an ‘ignore-Amos’ many times…
June 26th, 2007 at 4:53 am