“Vice President Cheney’s office Tuesday dismissed Democratic claims that Cheney is putting himself above the law because his office refused to grant access to an oversight agency that is tasked with reviewing how classified information is handled. ‘Constitutional issues in government are generally best left for discussion when unavoidable disputes arise in a specific context instead of in theoretical discussions,’ Cheney’s chief of staff, David Addington, said in a letter to Sen. John Kerry (D-MA).” Kerry called Addington’s response “legalistic” and unacceptable. RawStory has more.
Memo to John: Don’t fall for it!
June 26th, 2007 at 9:22 pmMore bullshit from the lying, thieving, cowardly, thugs in the crime family. Nothing these bastards say is ever the truth or lawful.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:24 pmTime to “dismiss” Cheney. IMPEACH.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:24 pmTHROW
THE
BOOK
AT
HIM.
And aim for the face, just to see how he likes it.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:25 pmShorter Cheney (if that’s possible): “As a card carrying sociopath, I can honestly say, I’m above all that.”
June 26th, 2007 at 9:28 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 9:29 pmThe fact that Cheney refuses to admit that he is a part of the executive office or the reality of the Iraqi War is upsetting. To date, the war has cost over $340 billion dollars—money which could have been spent much more wisely and with better end results. It is estimated, for example, that the expenditure of a mere $19 billion would eliminate starvation and malnutrition worldwide. In a time when the current defense budget is $522 billion, the goal of eradicating world hunger is clearly well within reach. Thus, it is clear that the occupation of Iraq needs to end, and it needs to end now without regard to what this will do to United States interest in Iraq’s oil. There are simply much more important issues that need to be addressed. It’s time that Cheney and his cronies faces the reality of failure.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:29 pmThere is NO CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, at least regarding Cheney.
He is in the EXECUTIVE BRANCH, as per the Constitution.
If he does NOT follow the LAW, he is a CRIMINAL.
Who needs to be TORTURED in “Mittmo” for TREASON.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:33 pmJohn Kerry meddling in the affairs of the executive branch is unacceptable. He was already rejected for that role.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:33 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Great idea! let the facist face of the republican party stand at the forefront and take his medicine,, for a change.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:35 pmTheorize Impeachment.Clowns.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:35 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Whatever you 26%ers are drinking, take it, and Cheney to a deserted island so you can drink your kool aid and worship the Dick forever, in peace, together.
So sweet!
June 26th, 2007 at 9:35 pmLook, Republicans destroy the constitution with the specific arguments they have, not the ones they wish they had.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pmTheoretically, when 80% of the world hates your guts you ought to be grateful you have food on your table and a family who loves you.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:37 pmConstitutional issues in government are generally best left for discussion {oh, you mean like the energy task force, Valerie Plame outing, NSA spying, etc) when unavoidable {they weren’t “unavoidable”, they were deliberate} disputes arise in a specific context {give us all the information as demanded and we’ll have the full context} instead of in theoretical discussions {the theory is Cheney is a corrupt, evil man – we can discuss that as part of the overall oversight of his actual activities if we actually get the information}
June 26th, 2007 at 9:42 pmTheoretically, when 80% of the world hates your guts you ought to be grateful you have food on your table and a family who loves you.
Comment by LandSurveyor
Practially, you might also want to ask Why 80% of the world hates your guts, while you’re at it. Just making the suggestion.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:48 pmWhatever, Addington.
Here’s your subpoena. Where’s Big Time? Got one for him too.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:48 pmJohn Kerry meddling in the affairs of the executive branch is unacceptable. He was already rejected for that role.
Comment by m12
Funny, I was just about to say the same thing about Bruschâ„¢.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:49 pmMy mom’s maiden name is Addington.. I wonder if we’re related?? Eeeuuwwwww….
June 26th, 2007 at 9:56 pmI’m not sure Cheney is part of the homosapien branch.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:00 pm‘Constitutional issues in government are generally best left for discussion when unavoidable disputes arise in a specific context
How about the specific context of
June 26th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
How about the specific context of
IMPEACHMENT!!!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Works for me. Oy….
June 26th, 2007 at 10:11 pm“John Kerry meddling in the affairs of the executive branch is unacceptable.
Comment by m12″
don’t you mean ‘the affairs of the cool new imaginary 4th branch that cheney made up’?
June 26th, 2007 at 10:14 pm“John Kerry meddling in the affairs of the executive branch is unacceptable.
Comment by m12″
better recheck you talking point, moron, cheney says he’s not part of the executive branch.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pmI am glad to see Sen. Kerry take strong action in this very important matter. Vice President Cheney can’t have it both ways. This all boils down to what Cheney would rather not disclose about his secret activities. He is answerable to the American people. He must be held accountable like any other public official. I am glad to see Sen. Kerry hold the vice president accountable. If Sen. Kerry were president today we would not be in the mess we are in.
We certainly would not have had a vice president who was not willing to comply with the law. Vice President Cheney is not above the law. He can’t cite executive privilege for his secret meetings with energy executives in crafting an energy policy that only helped these energy companies. Neither can he say that as president of the Senate he doesn’t have to comply with rules every vice president in our history has complied with. It is only a ceremonial role. He must comply with the executive order under the law.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:19 pmAddington has been on my radar screen for a long time. His name seems to be involved in all the most unsavory aspects of this most unsavory of administrations- pretty much a solid ass-hole since day one. Makes ya wonder what kind of beans HE could spill.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:20 pmI’d settle for a bunker-style suicide as Fitz closes in.
The fact is that Cheney IS in the Executive branch according to the Constitution and as such has repeatedly invoked “executive privilege” in his refusal to comply with information dissemination, testimony, etc. Now he’s purporting to be a member of the Legislative Branch and not the Executive Branch. No doubt that his corrupt attorney is advising him because what will be aired if his movements and records become public will destroy both Cheney and the office of the VP.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:21 pm#26 Just like KKKRove, Addington has been on “everyone’s radar” with his fingerprints all over everything that has gone wrong in this country. It’s time for Congress to subpoena Addington and get to the bottom of this necrotic pile of humanity.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:22 pmWhat a coincidence! I post a song parody about Cheney to my blog, and there he is! Hope you like the song “Money”, Pink Floyd.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:26 pmSpeaking of Dick, did you know that a witness substantiated that Cheney and his lovely wife were in the bunker prior to the tike that Cheney claimed? More than that it appears that this Dick gave the orders for NORAD to stand down? Here is a video link…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-5PKQTUz5o
So, while cutting off funding is a great thing the truth is that impeachment is the only thing that is acceptable. Even though there appears to be opposition to Cheney the reality is that the President and Vice President have created a Co-Dictatorship and congress has already passed the necessary legislation to create the imbalance of power (Patriot Act) to begin with.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:26 pmPity you won’t have the stationery to write those idiotic letters when Congress CUTS YOUR F*CKING FUNDING, DICK!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:29 pmI was talking about Cheney.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:30 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 26, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
Now that’s an odd sentiment coming from a left-of-center moderate such as yourself (according to your political compass scores from the other night.) :D
June 26th, 2007 at 10:31 pmWhat a coincidence! I post a song parody about Cheney to my blog, and there he is! Hope you like the song “Moneyâ€, Pink Floyd.
How appropriate! I LOVE that song!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:32 pma little addington blurb from laura rozen’s blog:
“A Hill staffer sends comment on the Post Cheney revelations:…
June 26th, 2007 at 10:33 pmHere is one prediction for you: come January 20th, 2009, Mr. Addington will never again be able to leave U.S. soil. He will risk arrest for war crimes offenses and will not have the current diplomatic protections he enjoys today.”
“… get to the bottom…”
Comment by veritas
Geez, are we talking about gays in the military again? Oh, you were refering to the GOP… my bad, my bad…
June 26th, 2007 at 10:34 pmWhat a coincidence! I post a song parody about Cheney to my blog, and there he is! Hope you like the song “Moneyâ€, Pink Floyd.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Great song parodies, Wayne. :D
June 26th, 2007 at 10:40 pmComment by Zooey — June 26, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Thanks, Zooey. I can’t help it. I’ve been doing it all my life and I doubt I could stop if I wanted to. Or if everybody else wanted me to. :)
June 26th, 2007 at 10:42 pmThanks, Zooey. I can’t help it. I’ve been doing it all my life and I doubt I could stop if I wanted to. Or if everybody else wanted me to. :)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Don’t ever stop!! You’re our own Weird Al Yankovic, but less weird. And more relevant. With nicer hair. :-D
June 26th, 2007 at 10:53 pmComment by Zooey — June 26, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
That’s kind of you, Zooey. If Weird Al ever did political stuff (and he’s smart to stay away from it or it could kill his career), I couldn’t hold a candle to him. And I can be weird, too. I thought i usually am. ;)
June 26th, 2007 at 10:55 pmm12, the whole idea of a three tiered government was checks and balances. the legislative has the constitutional imperative to oversee and check the executive (which he is and isn’t in, apparently).
Learn you some constitution, boy.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:09 pmDon’t ever stop!! You’re our own Weird Al Yankovic, but less weird. And more relevant. With nicer hair. :-D
Comment by Zooey
Uh, Wayner, does the Janer know about you 2?
June 26th, 2007 at 11:28 pmNow that’s an odd sentiment coming from a left-of-center moderate such as yourself (according to your political compass scores from the other night.) :D
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 26, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
But those scores don’t say that I can’t be a sarcastic jackass!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 11:29 pmBut those scores don’t say that I can’t be a sarcastic jackass!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Hah! You have yet to achieve the level of weisenheimer grasshopper!
The Veep is clearly defined as part of the executive branch in the constitution. Addington, although clever, is parsing words. Socrates he isn’t.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:33 pmBut those scores don’t say that I can’t be a sarcastic jackass!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 26, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
As can we all! :D
June 26th, 2007 at 11:36 pmHe dismisses any oversight. We dismiss him. Impeach now.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:37 pmUh, Wayner, does the Janer know about you 2?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 26, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
You forget, she posts here rather regularly herself. And she likes to start by checking out threads she hasn’t seen lately, to see if anything good went on after she left. So naturally she’s seen the posts. How she interprets it all………
June 26th, 2007 at 11:39 pmBut those scores don’t say that I can’t be a sarcastic jackass!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
And after years and years of practice, and expensive lessons…
June 26th, 2007 at 11:39 pmHow she interprets it all………
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Are we looking for a repeat of “The Rolling Pin Incident”?
June 26th, 2007 at 11:41 pmAddington, although clever, is parsing words. Socrates he isn’t.
Comment by Zep Tep
Ahem, in proper GOP speak, wouldn’t that be, “Socrates he ain’t!”
I knows me some grammar!
June 26th, 2007 at 11:42 pm“The Rolling Pin Incident�
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 26, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
You’ll have to refresh my memory. :D
June 26th, 2007 at 11:44 pmYou’ll have to refresh my memory. :D
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Amnesia as a result of a bonk on the head?
June 26th, 2007 at 11:45 pmYou’re saying there was a “bonk in the head” involved? :D
June 26th, 2007 at 11:50 pmUh, Wayner, does the Janer know about you 2?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
TRoS,
Jane knows about, and has blessed, my standing date with Wayne at Milliways.
Jane is very modern. :D
June 26th, 2007 at 11:54 pmYou’re saying there was a “bonk in the head†involved? :D
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Well yeah… I recall she got ya last week or so, then you got her back on Saturday night. Those matching bumps were kinda cute…
June 26th, 2007 at 11:54 pmSorry, have to go to bed. Jane’s standing behind me. It looks like she’s been baking.
I’ll see you all tomorrow. Good night, everyone.
(whispering) (especially you, Zooey, wink, wink) ;) :) And thanks for the compliments.
It’s time to get back on thread and talk about everyone’s favorite “Dick”!
One last thing.
Another edition of “Fun With Selective Editing”
‘Constitutional issues in government are …theoretical…’ Cheney’s chief of staff, David Addington, said.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:56 pmJane is very modern. :D
Comment by Zooey
Well, after what I read, peeking thru my shaking fingers, Saturday night, it just seems like somebody needs to keep an eye on you folks, make sure you’re behaving yourselves.
The things I read… :-0!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:05 amLet Kucinich start the impeachment process against Darth Cheney.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:05 amGoodnight, Wayne.
*wink*
June 27th, 2007 at 12:13 amThe things I read… :-0!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Awww, your’e so sweet. :-D
I have to admit, that last hijacking was the raunchiest ever.
I bet you’re blushing right now….
Heh.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:14 amI bet you’re blushing right now….
Heh.
Comment by Zooey
O gosh… (sweating…) how can you tell?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:17 amLet Kucinich start the impeachment process against Darth Cheney.
Comment by Jay Randal
I’m not sure that’ll work, Jay. He’ll just turn into a giant bat and fly away. I suggest a stake thru the heart, if you can find it.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:20 amRepublic > Cheney has a bionic heart, so the stake has to penetrate steel armor covering it.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:24 amO gosh… (sweating…) how can you tell?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I’m very perceptive.
And you’re easy. :D
June 27th, 2007 at 12:28 amRepublic > Cheney has a bionic heart, so the stake has to penetrate steel armor covering it.
Comment by Jay Randal
True. Perhaps we could come up w/ some sort of high-tech “armor piercing” stake…
I wonder waht would happen if one were to use a garage door opener in his immediate vicinity?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:28 amAnd you’re easy. :D
Comment by Zooey
I’m easy??? Okay, who’s been talking??? And after I paid good money to keep “The Melon Incident” quiet, too! Ya can’t trust nobody these days, nobody, I tell ya!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:30 amI suggest a stake thru the heart, if you can find it.
I meant his heart, find his heart, NOt find a stake, BTW…
June 27th, 2007 at 12:31 amCheney reminds me of Count Dracula. He likes to hang out in underground bunkers, so perhaps he sleeps in a coffin as well.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:40 amCheney reminds me of Count Dracula. He likes to hang out in underground bunkers, so perhaps he sleeps in a coffin as well.
Comment by Jay Randal
Well, when was the last time you saw Cheney out in bright sunlight? Or standing in front of a mirror?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:42 amI’m easy??? Okay, who’s been talking??? And after I paid good money to keep “The Melon Incident†quiet, too! Ya can’t trust nobody these days, nobody, I tell ya!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I’ve heard of you guys and your great love of melons — nice and warm, still in the field. For shame…..
Heh.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:55 amFor shame…..
Heh.
Comment by Zooey
Me thinks thou dost protest too much!!!
(admit it… you’re peeking thru your fingers right now…)
June 27th, 2007 at 1:00 amMe thinks thou dost protest too much!!!
(admit it… you’re peeking thru your fingers right now…)
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Only me and all my friends!! :D
Too fun, TRoS.
Goodnight!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:19 amI just love the word “discussion”. This word has no relevence to the cheney method.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:27 amTotal horseshit!
Has anyone found ONE single executive Power vested by the Constitution in the Office of Vice President yet?
June 27th, 2007 at 8:52 amAnd on a more current note:
Israeli fire struck a Gaza City house, killing four people, including a 12-year-old boy, medics said. There were no other details on the dead, but witnesses said militants were seen in the area.
So were Rodan and Godzilla.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:02 am“John Kerry meddling in the affairs of the executive branch is unacceptable. He was already rejected for that role.
Comment by m12″
How can he be meddling with the affairs of the executive branch when Cheney isn’t part of the Executive Branch?
Come on m12, you make it way too easy for us. Can’t you come up with something better?
June 27th, 2007 at 9:41 amCheney Moves His Office to Dubai
(– cognitorex –)
Dick Cheney regularly forgoes niceties such as treaties, laws, our constitution and avoiding conflicts of interest with his oil brethren. This we know.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:05 amOne example among oh so many is the multiple billion dollar no-bid contracts awarded to his last employer and present benefactor, Halliburton.
Recently, Halliburton, in what can only be described as a Cheney-esque maneuver, devoid of patriotism and morality, is moving its headquarters to foreign soil. That the chosen country Dubai, an Arab land of Sheiks and Sultans, is a physical presence in our ‘oil’ wars and the WWIII Islamo Fascist crusade against Islam that Cheney et al say we will be fighting for decades is a chilling example of how Cheney’s non-legal non-moral mind can discard America’s interests with cognitive impunity.
I would like to also point out that to some degree Halliburton knows the United States’ Military’s Order of Battle in the Middle East.
To supply services to our troops they have to know of and plan for the logistics of troop movements; short term and long term.
Halliburton is in essence a division of our armed forces, paid differently but no less integral than communications, the motor pool, medical services and our lives’-at-risk warriors. Halliburton was an American entity but will not be as they leave America to avoid legal scrutiny and presumably to avoid paying U.S. taxes on what you and I pay them in those contracts.
If Dick Cheney saw personal gain for himself and his ‘oil’ brethren he would move the Pentagon offshore. He peddles nationalism and the ‘Red, White and Blue’ to the well meaning but susceptible GOP faithful but when it comes to his own interests it is not Red, White and Blue, it’s “screw you.”
–craig johnson/ cognitorex blogspot–
PRIMVS INTER PARES,
as someone who is in full support of unitary executive power, in other words a dictatorship, it must kind of sting to be a basically insignificant and powerless individual.
why do you hate our Constitution?
June 27th, 2007 at 10:42 amJohn Kerry meddling in the affairs of the executive branch is unacceptable. He was already rejected for that role.
Comment by m12
Actually, oversight is part of the balance of powers that the branches ARE responsible for. you are ignorant about government, history, and fact. you are a sad troll indeed. why do you hate and reject our Founding Fathers and the Constitution?
June 27th, 2007 at 10:44 amWouldn’t the current situation be what Cheney’s aide describes as an “unavoidable dispute [] in a specific context”, and not “theoretical”.
Did Cheney’s office violate the Freedom of Information Act from 2002-2007? Yes, if his office is a member of the executive branch.
Is Cheney’s office a member of the executive branch of the government? Yes, under provisions of the constitution.
sounds like a pretty F’ing “specific context” to me.
I wish politicians would realize that not all of the people are cattle who can be pigeonholed into specific demographics and are therefore predictable. There are plent of people who are smarter and of higher convictions than any politician in DC, and we don’t enjoy being patronized by simpering idiots who tell us that black is white, right is wrong, and 2+2=5.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:45 amThis guy is out of control. Like Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein tale, we must come to grips with laying blame not on the pathetic creature but those who created it.
Grab a pitchfork and a torch…to the Whitehouse, ho!
June 27th, 2007 at 10:50 amJohn Kerry meddling in the affairs of the executive branch is unacceptable. He was already rejected for that role.
Comment by m12
wow, thats like arguing logic with a moron who would rather make ignorant quips and yell “Zing!” after his witty remarks. wait…that sounds like every pundit on the radio/tv/internet.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:54 am