Elizabeth Edwards Confronts Coulter During Live Television Appearance
Elizabeth Edwards Confronts Coulter During Live Television Appearance
Elizabeth Edwards confronted right-wing pundit Ann Coulter during a live interview on MSNBC this afternoon, charging that Coulter’s “personal attacks” on former senator John Edwards and others were based on “the language of hate.”
Yesterday on ABC’s Good Morning America, Coulter said, “[I]f I’m gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.” She has previously called Edwards a “faggot.” In 2003, she wrote a column claiming that John Edwards drove around with a bumper sticker saying “Ask me about my son’s death in a horrific car accident.”
During an hour-long interview with Coulter today on MSNBC, host Chris Matthews announced that Elizabeth Edwards was on the line. Edwards referenced the attacks above, saying, “I’m the mother of that boy who died. These young people behind you…you’re asking them to participate in a dialogue that is based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues, and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.” The live audience cheered. Watch it:
Responding to Edwards, Coulter first inexplicably claimed that she “didn’t say anything about [Edwards]” on the previous day. Then Coulter tried to claim that Edwards just wanted her to “stop speaking” and stop writing books, but Matthews rebutted her, saying, “No, she said you should stop being so negative to people individually.”
When her first two attempts to spin the situation faulted, Coulter then launched into another baseless, personal attack, accusing John Edwards of “bankrupting doctors by giving a shyster Las Vegas routine in front of juries…doing these psychic routines in front of illiterate juries to bankrupt doctors who now can’t deliver babies.”
Transcript:
MATTHEWS: You know who’s on the line? Someone to respond to what you said about Edwards yesterday morning. Elizabeth Edwards. She wanted to call in today, we said she could. Elizabeth Edwards, go on the line. You’re on the line with Ann Coulter.
E: Hello Chris.
M: Do you want to say something directly to the person who’s with me?
E: I’m calling — you know, in the south, when someone does something that displeases us, we want to ask them politely to stop doing it. I would like to ask Ann Coulter to — if she wants to debate on issues, on positions — we certainly disagree with nearly everything she said on your show today — but it is quite another matter for these personal attacks. The things that she has said over the years, not just about John but about other candidates, lowers our political dialogue precisely at the time that we need to raise it. So I want to use the opportunity, which I don’t get much because Ann and I don’t hang out with the same people…
C: I don’t have enough money.
E: …to ask her politely stop the personal attacks.
C: Okay, so I made a joke, let’s see, six months ago, and as you point out, they have been raising money off of it for six months since then.
M: But this is yesterday morning, what you said about him.
C: I didn’t say anything about him, actually, either time.
E: But that — Ann, Ann, you know that’s not true, and once more, this has been going on for some time.
C: And I don’t mind you trying to raise money. It’s better this than giving $50,000 speeches to the poor just to use my name on the webpages. But as for a debate with me, yeah, sure. Yeah, we’ll have a debate.
E: I’m asking you politely to stop, to stop personal attacks –
C: How about you stop raising money on your web page then? No, you don’t have to because I don’t mind.
E: I did not start with that. You had a column a number of years ago where you suggested — wait till I finish talking please…
C: Okay, the wife of a presidential candidate is calling in asking me to stop speaking.
M: Let her finish the point. Let her finish the point.
C: You’re asking me to stop speaking? “Stop writing your columns. Stop writing your books.”
M: Ann, please.
E: You had a column several years ago which made fun of the moment of Charlie Dean’s death and suggested that my husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car saying, “Ask me about my dead son.” This is not legitimate political dialogue.
C: This is now three years ago.
E: It debases political dialogue. It drives people away from the process. We can’t have a debate about the issues.
C: Yeah, why isn’t John Edwards making this call?
M: Well, do you want to respond? We’ll end the conversation.
E: I haven’t talked to John about this call. I’m making the call as a mother. I’m the mother of that boy who died. My children participate — these young people behind you are the age of my children. You’re asking them to participate in a dialogue that is based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues, and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.
[Applause]
M: Thank you very much Elizabeth. You wanna respond? You have all the time in the world to respond.
C: I think we heard all we need to hear. The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.
M: No, she asked you to stop being so negative to people individually.
C: Right, as opposed to bankrupting doctors by giving a schyster Las Vegas routine in front of juries based on science — wait, you said I’d have as long as I would have, then you instantly interrupt me.
M: Go ahead, go ahead.
C: As I was saying, doing these psychic routines in front of illiterate juries to bankrupt doctors who now can’t deliver babies, and to charge a poverty group $50,000 for a speech. Don’t talk to me about how to use language.
M: Elizabeth?
E: …the language of hate, and I’m going to ask you again to politely stop using personal attacks as part of your dialogue.
C: Okay, I’ll stop writing books.
E: If you can’t write them without them, that is fine.
M: Why do you call out Hillary’s chubby legs in your book? Why do you — this may fall under the category of personal attacks, I don’t know, but why do you do that? Why do you talkabout Monica Lewinsky’s chubbiness? If she were skinny, would it have been okay?
C: Um, I don’t know, read the sentence.
E: I read the whole sentence. I couldn’t feel the context.
C: Well you have to give it to me and I could explain.
E: Why do you make fun of Hillary’s chubby legs?
C: I don’t know, you’re going to have to give me the sentence.
M: It’s in the afterword of your book, I just read it this morning.
C: Then read the sentence.
M: We’ll be back and read the entire sentence. We’ll come right back. I don’t know why we’re reading — the full intellectual context will be coming in just a moment.
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CATFIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:08 pmWow now who has bigger thatchers
June 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmDie now mAnn Coulter, you f*cking sick, ugly, smelly whore.
There’s a place in HELL reserved for your ilk: SH*T EATER.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:11 pmThat creature is the definition of a C***!!! No disrespect meant to the word!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pmDaily John Edwards Fabulous Fact
If you play the song “I Feel Pretty” backwards and listen carefully, you can hear the sound of John Edwards preening.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pmOh yeah. Nothing like a catfight followed up by hot, lesbian sex to make it all up after the fight…
June 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pmThis was totally dreadful! As much as Anne says hateful things for publicity, she showed tonight the true depth of her hatefulness. I hope tonight’s performance convinces Chris never to give her a platform ever again.
You should have heard her talk about ramping up the killing of civilians in order to win the WOT.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pmChris, instead of asking Coulter why she says those things, ask yourself why you are interviewing her. Give your head a shake man.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:14 pmI like Elizabeth Edwards and am sorry about her illness and loss. Unfortunately, she still has John……
June 26th, 2007 at 6:14 pmLike their idol, Trolls never engage their brains before opening their pieholes.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:15 pmGood for Elizabeth Edwards!
About time Democrats stand up to bullies like Ann Coulter and her gang of hateful followers.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:16 pmAnn Coulter was her typical disgusting self. Shes a horrible woman.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:16 pmAnd per usual, Tweety is utterly useless during this.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:16 pmI wish Elizabeth had confronted Ann directly on the wish that John Edwards be assassinated by a terrorist (video from Good Morning America). But the question about her son was GREAT! Too bad Ann didn’t respond to any of it, except the false claim that she was asked not to write books.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:16 pmTrolls shit where they eat.
It’s one hole in the same.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pmNotice how Coulter changed the topic. Classic right wing tactic!!
Edwards makes a honest request to Coulter to stop with personally attacking people, and Coulter turns it into a free speech issue.
I’m so glad the MSM keeps putting this woman on the air. It will make 2008 that much easier.
Hey righties, you need to get a grip on your media outlets and your elected leaders and tell them to distance themselves from her. She will do everything she can to bring you guys down. She wont realize it of course, because she thinks all Amercians agree with personal attacks. She will never learn, because like all of you, she gets her news from blowhards like Rush and Hannity on right wing radio which is only useful for personal attacks.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pmUnfortunately, she still has John……
Comment by valiant venus — June 26, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
You don’t even qualify as a human being anymore. You’re disgusting.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pmyeah, Chris is just the referee of both their virtuous sets of ideas – Ann Coulter who wants all her critics dead, and Elizabeth Edwards.
Don’t let him get away with it.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pmPoor TrAnn was totally flustered.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:18 pmThe INSTANT she hears is Mrs. Edwards on the line, she starts squirming, and fussing with her mane (she does have a horse face) like a guilty little child who fears a scolding coming their way…
June 26th, 2007 at 6:19 pmP R I C E L E S S.
Smart ratings move on Chris’ part – This catfight gives new meaning to the old song “I am WOMAYN hear me roar“…..
June 26th, 2007 at 6:21 pmJoey: you are so going to pay for that remark. There are people on TP who hate “tranny Ann” jokes more than anything. You’re really going to get it now from your fellow progressives.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:22 pmI think it’s time we start actively boycotting anyone who gives Coulter airtime or print space. These media whores love her, because Coulter is good for ratings. Time to ask their sponsors why Imus had to go off the air, but Coulter’s share of air time increases with each and every hate-filled filthy comment that spews from her mouth.
Time to put those who give her a public podium on notice, that this isn’t journalism, it is hate-speech that works against the public interests. What’s next, social commentary from neo-nazis and the KKK? Time to ask the sponsors of the shows that give Coulter air-time if this is what they want us to associate their products and services with, as well as the advertisers of the print publications.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:22 pmReally? If you play Hail to the Chief backwards, you can hear Bush and Cheney plotting to take over America. The Star Spangled Banner, played backwards, yields: “Frank is a troll, a traitor, and dickhead.”
Very interesting stuff, music.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pmwhat a completely disgusting vile obnoxious little slut…
is she just off her night shift, with that little black dress,
or getting ready to go on?… she probably just never changes…
what a horrible person.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pm.
Comment by ChallengePTB — June 26, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Yeah, you mean like TP!?!?!?!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmCoultergeist needs the hair to cover her deteriorated face – clearly, the hate she spews is taking over her entire being and she’s becoming rather pathetically ugly at this point. I guess her eyes have such wrinkles and suitcases under them that the shades are a necessary accessory.
Kudos to Elizabeth Edwards for calling this disgusting woman a hate monger. The country is behind Elizabeth Edwards and she “roared over this hate fake today! Horrah! Hoorah!
Squirm like the worm whom she is….what a sleezebucket!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmre: no. 1 CATFIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 26, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
Anyone on this site, including the fake intellectual above, that is calling disagreement between two women a catfight is a macho wannabe ass—-. It is typical prejudice against women. When men heatedly agree what is it? A dogfight?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:25 pmBravo for Ms. Edwards for speaking the truth. Ann Coulter is a dispicable person.
Fantastic. I love Elizabeth Edwards.
I also love that the audience cheered her. I could stand to see more of that.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:25 pmCoulter needs to be barred from all media. Everyone should blacklist her. Of course, Hannity on Fox has a crush on her so she will always be welcome there…
June 26th, 2007 at 6:25 pmShe has no legs and a body which only a vampire who hasn’t seen the light of day would be interested in – so, all she could do was show off her bad augmentation job….What a moronic jacka$$!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:25 pmPlain and simple… Ann Coulter is a C***
June 26th, 2007 at 6:26 pmHey Zooey…..You beat me to it! Hoorah for Elizabeth Edwards. Now that woman has an intellect, is articulate, and rocks! Let her roar! Everyone is cheering for Elizabeth!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:26 pmIs Ann getting fat?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:27 pmAnn now resembles a pair of fake boobs on toothpicks, doesn’t she? Squirming Countergeist is the most priceless of all telltale body signals, isn’t it? She was ready to soil in her pants when she realized that someone which a hundred times more chutzpah and real intelligence was challenging her. What a bold, brave move for Elizabeth! Every woman on the planet is cheering inside for her moxie.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:28 pmYou know, Paris Hilton and Ann Coulter have alot in common.
They should both be in jail.
They’re both skanky, blond airheads.
Neither one of them has any redeeming quality.
The only difference is that Paris is benignly self-absorbed; Coulter is psychopathically obnoxious.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:28 pmOf course, Hannity on Fox has a crush on her so she will always be welcome there…
Comment by RickyScorpio — June 26, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
I don’t know that Sean is gay… :D
June 26th, 2007 at 6:28 pmUnfortunately, she still has John……
Comment by valiant venus
Also unfortunate, is TP still has your sorry ass!!!! aka Mighty Hag
June 26th, 2007 at 6:28 pmIn simple language: Coultergeist is the quintessential filthy pig.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:29 pmThe person behind PRIMVS INTER PARES is as despicable, or more so than Mr. Coulter. Your appeal to reason is lost on him/her/it.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:29 pmI believe that in the near future, we will hear about Coulter’s meltdown and she will be sitting in some psych ward.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:30 pmSo, folks are cheering Ms. Edwards for asking Ann to stop with the personal attacks?
Yet, there are so many personal attacks on Ann just in this comment list I can’t count them all.
Anyone else see a disconnect here?
If we want Ann (and other right-wing folks) to stop with the attacks, why can’t we do the same?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:31 pmsorry Tom – even paris is NOT a skank by coulter standards…
and i thought the ann skank looked even more emaciated than usual…
oh, but maybe she will THINK she’s getting fatter and
June 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pmcontinue with the purging and just wither away…
none too soon…
The person behind PRIMVS INTER PARES is as despicable, or more so than Mr. Coulter. Your appeal to reason is lost on him/her/it.
Comment by TROLLBAIT3000 — June 26, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
The name’s PiPpy, and since you have decided to attack me,
Go Fukc Yourself!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pmMaybe someday real politicians will stand up to Coulter.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pmCoulter shouldn’t have been on NBC.
Jeezus stop watching cable information entertainment.
“Is Ann getting fat?” Comment by unbelievable
No, they’re called “breasts”.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:33 pmsit still Coulter… quit playing with the nits in your hair, and for God’s sakes wash that hair…. why the shades – what is he/she hiding?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:33 pmI almost felt a little sorry for Coulter there. I mean, I know she’s not capable of contrition or remorse, but sociopaths do feel humiliation, and it was obvious she was feeling humiliated.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pmIf we want Ann (and other right-wing folks) to stop with the attacks, why can’t we do the same?
Comment by Matt — June 26, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
Prove it. And don’t think that responding forcefully, as Mrs. Edwards did, is a ‘personal attack’.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:35 pm“Is Ann getting fat?†Comment by unbelievable
No, they’re called “breastsâ€.
Comment by valiant venus — June 26, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
No, they’re called breast implants.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:36 pmProve it. And don’t think that responding forcefully, as Mrs. Edwards did, is a ‘personal attack’.
Comment by Namtillaku — June 26, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
I was not talking about Ms. Edwards. I was talking about the “quality” comments on this board.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:36 pmMatt: Because she asks for it…
June 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmHey Zooey…..You beat me to it! Hoorah for Elizabeth Edwards. Now that woman has an intellect, is articulate, and rocks! Let her roar! Everyone is cheering for Elizabeth!
Comment by veritas
I really hope she beats her cancer. She’s such a kind and intelligent person.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmI’m starting to think Elizabeth Edwards should run for president.
Seriously … very impressive woman. Reminds me of my wife with her strength and unwillingness to take crap from anyone.
John’s a lucky guy.
.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmIt’s rather sad that so many of the responses to Elizabeth’s polite request that Ms. Coulter keep a civil tongue in her head were nothing but negative personal attacks on one of them, Sen. Edwards or Chris Matthews. I wasn’t raised to be a polite Southern lady, but I still wish a lot more of us could keep a civil tongue in our heads, whether we are Progressives, neo-cons or whatever. I agree that Ms. Coulter’s behavior ranges from bad to really dreadful, but Elizabeth Edwards does a far better job of demonstrating that than the nastiness here.
Vox Libertas
June 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmWow did Ann SQUIRM or what there??????????
That was awsome!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmJeezus stop watching cable information entertainment.
Comment by LandSurveyor — June 26, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
Thinking people do, the problem is that this sensational entertainment is what’s draws in the less discriminating among us, and as long as the vast right wing conspiracy within the MSM is in control, get used to her and others of her ilk getting time.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:38 pmComment by s
Why do you cry wolf with the word “prejudice”?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:39 pmYour appeal to reason is lost on him/her/it.
Comment by TROLLBAIT3000 — June 26, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
The name’s PiPpy, and since you have decided to attack me,
Go Fukc Yourself!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Looks like TROLLBAIT3000 may be correct.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:39 pmThe appeal for reason flew right over “PiPpy’s” head, never sparking one synapse in his brain.
LOL
I was not talking about Ms. Edwards. I was talking about the “quality†comments on this board.
Comment by Matt
If one chooses to respond to the queen of vicious attacks, Ann Coulter, how does one go about politely doing so?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pmZooey,
Unfortunately, it’s inoperable. All they can do is manage at this point.
That’s what makes her all the more impressive.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pmThat little pig-faced girl behind Ann is truly Ann’s ideological successor, overfed, undertaxed, and criminally underinformed. The perfect Republican Youth.
Coulter needs to either buy a new dress or go back to whatever windowless crack house she spends her time in.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pmMr. Coulter is despised here because he is a rank character assassin, with little to no regard for the truth. Furthermore, Mr. Coulter is displays a number of annoying affectations and a condescending manner that grates the nerves of those exposed to his tirades. Mr. Coulter displays an air of superiority that points toward sociopathy.
That’s why. Got it, fruitcake?
I just can’t figure out why his parents named him Ann.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pmJohn Edwards is a moron to the third-degree.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pmComment by Wayne — June 26, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
Didn’t need to. One dingle-berry is enough to handle your personal attacks. TROLLBAIT’s, s’, and your comments all lack substance.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:43 pmSame coctail dress.
Same sunglasses covering up her CRYSTAL METH eyes.
Same toucching of hair when she’s been confronted and knows she’s wrong.
Definitely, she will help bring the GOP even lower. Yup, lower than 26%.
Can we say Democratic sweep of White House, Senate and Congress in 2008? Living it and loving it!
Meanwhle, check out Kathy Griffin’s hilarious skit on AC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P17w0RWTew
June 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pmTRex!
I love you!
Welcome to TP.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pmJohn Edwards is a moron to the third-degree.
Comment by CT V_1
So?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:45 pmUnfortunately, it’s inoperable. All they can do is manage at this point.
That’s what makes her all the more impressive.
Comment by trueblue
I have a friend who’s lived through pancreatic cancer for 14 years. Maybe they can manage her cancer that long. :)
June 26th, 2007 at 6:47 pmGood for Ms. Edwards. Ann Coulter can not, absolutely can not have a reasoned dialog with anyone or think anything good anybody anyone or anything.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:47 pmTRex!
I love you!
Welcome to TP.
Comment by trueblue
Wow, true. Just throw yourself at the poor guy!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:47 pmThe way Elizabeth did, with a cool head and a civilized manner that shows her up for what she is by contrast. It was well done.
Vox Libertas
June 26th, 2007 at 6:47 pmI wonder how many liberal parents in here want their kids to become ______ lawyers. We need more overpaid, overcharging bums in America, more ambulance chasers.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:48 pmyour comments all lack substance.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Oh, yeah.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:48 pmBut your comments are always full of substance.
That substance most people flush, though.
I wonder how many liberal parents in here want their kids to become ______ lawyers. We need more overpaid, overcharging bums in America, more ambulance chasers.
Comment by CT V_1
Oh, the wayward mind of the pre-pubesent.
Time to go flog yourself to your Hillary Duff poster…
June 26th, 2007 at 6:49 pmMatthews just officially became the new “Springer” for newsies and politicos.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:50 pmIf you want to know why there are no serious political debates anymore, one just has to watch and listen to the people who were behind Matthews and Coulter, everything that Ms. Coulter said was so funny to them. Now suppose they all closed their eyes and imagined that Ms. Coulter was talking to their Mother in the most disrespectful of ways I wonder how they would feel?
I’m sorry, what was I thinking, people like that don’t feel, it’s all about the politics never about the issues.
Oh yea from now on Dick Cheney shall be known as “The President of the Senate”
This country is falling apart
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the POTUS, his enablers, and apologist call him,,,,,comma #1462
June 26th, 2007 at 6:50 pmComment by Zooey
It’s so good to hear from you, Zooey! Flowers bloom around my computer every time you post.
I wish I could fax you some complimentary cappuccino.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:50 pmThe way Elizabeth did, with a cool head and a civilized manner that shows her up for what she is by contrast. It was well done.
Vox Libertas
Comment by JimB.
It was well done. And if I ever encounter AC in public I will behave comparably to EE. I don’t feel the same constraints on a political blog.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:51 pmIt’s about damn time someone told that skanky coke-whore where she could shove it.
Neocon scum. *spit*
June 26th, 2007 at 6:51 pmCoulter is a vile pig. Ever notice that when she’s nervous she starts flipping her hair.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pmZooey,
TRex posts Late Nite FDL,
and I don’t think I’m his type.
He’s a funny, articulate, reporter, and a 60 ft dino!
It’s just great to see him here.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pm“John Edwards is a moron to the third-degree.
Comment by CT V_1″
Multiple Choice Response:
A-It takes one to know one.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pmB- I know you are but what am I?
C-Why did your mom pluck you out of the toilet when she flushed your brothers away?
D-All of the above.
Comment by Not Canadian
I was only taking a script from your playbook, righteous douche.
There’s an infinite demand for lawyers, ever heard? The ACLU can’t hire enough of them. I want to become a computer lawyer or a chocalate-chip double-fudge cookie lawyer when I grow up.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pmTroll: “I wonder how many liberal parents in here want their kids to become ______ lawyers.”
My son wants to be a lawyer and I’m behind him 100%. He admires the way Edwards represented common citizens against powerful corporations. He admires anyone who has the guts to fight for the underdog. He’s a good kid.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmIt’s so good to hear from you, Zooey! Flowers bloom around my computer every time you post.
I wish I could fax you some complimentary cappuccino.
Comment by CT V_1
Ever so lovely to see you as well, CT, but you’re making me puke. Heh.
Flowers or cappuccino, but not both — please. :D
June 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmElizabeth showed a lot of poise and grace. Her only mistake was giving Ms Coulter the opportunity to respond in a dignified manner. Ms Coulter has demonstrated that she no longer deserves such opportunities. She also no longer deserves to be given platforms like Hardball to spread her hate speach.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmTRex posts Late Nite FDL,
and I don’t think I’m his type.
He’s a funny, articulate, reporter, and a 60 ft dino!
It’s just great to see him here.
Comment by trueblue
Well, except for the 60 foot dinosaur part, he sounds exactly your type.
Heh.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:56 pmUpon Elizabeth Edwards politely asking Coulter to stop using personal attacks The Man replies, “so you want me to stop writing books.”
Is that an admission that her books are nothing but personal attacks?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:57 pmI wonder how many liberal parents in here want their kids to become ______ lawyers. We need more overpaid, overcharging bums in America, more ambulance chasers.
Comment by CT V_1
If that’s what either of my sons wanted to do, I’d support them. There are too many lawyers already.
My father was a lawyer, and is now a retired Judge. What’s the problem, CT?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:58 pmI want to become a computer lawyer or a chocalate-chip double-fudge cookie lawyer when I grow up.
Comment by CT V_1
So, you ended up being a chocalate-chip double-fudge cookie and forgot the lawyer part????
June 26th, 2007 at 6:58 pmGlad to see Ann get slapped by a classy lady.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pmIs Ann Coulter really a transvestite? She’s beginning to look that way. Just wondering.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:00 pmCoulter is truly despicable – makes me sad to see she is considered as normal or even humurous by anyone. Can’t believe Matthews put her on the show again. More of that “be fair and show both sides of a thing” behavior that doesn’t account for truth and decency.
BTW – MSNBC has a poll on the site – at Hardball – re who was right in this exchange – Elizabeth Edwards or Coulter. Guess who’s at 92%?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:00 pmCT, chattin’ up Zooey, play on playa!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 7:00 pmCoultergeist getting bitch slapped….gotta love it!
June 26th, 2007 at 7:01 pmWhether the issue concerns gay Americans, 9/11, abortion, judicial appointments or political corruption, a seamless continuum of hate runs from today’s Republican Party through to its most extreme proponents. And that means the GOP differs only in degree – not in kind – from the cartoonish and sometimes criminal likes of Ann Coulter, Fred Phelps or Eric Rudolph.
For the details, see:
June 26th, 2007 at 7:01 pm“Ann Coulter and Conservatism’s Continuum of Hate.”
Well, Ann is right. I did make a donation to John Edwards campaign because of her just now. Keep up the hate Ann, were it not for you I would have held onto that $50. I encourage everyone to donate to John’s campaign.
https://johnedwards.com/action/contribute/ring-the-bell
June 26th, 2007 at 7:03 pmWow, Hads,
June 26th, 2007 at 7:03 pmI’m going to link it up.
BRB.
Is it too late for Ann Coulter’s parents to have an abortion?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:04 pmIs that an admission that her books are nothing but personal attacks?
Comment by kr
It was an admission Coulter cannot carry any dialogue without personal attacks, even in her books.
Take the attacks out of her booksand you have nothing but blank pages.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:04 pmBTW – Who gives a shit about this debate?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:05 pmCoulter’s smugness is what most makes me want to just smack the shit out of her.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:05 pmThe guy holding the Marry me Ann sign is gay but doesn’t know it.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:05 pmWhat a hag….zero credibility.
Here you go
June 26th, 2007 at 7:06 pmI like Elizabeth Edwards and am sorry about her illness and loss. Unfortunately, she still has John……
Comment by vermin venus
Is VV confessing that she/he really wants John out of the way to have Elizabeth for herself/himself?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:06 pmCT, chattin’ up Zooey, play on playa!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Oh, yes, Such “substance” your posts have, PiPpy
June 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pmLMAO
My father was a lawyer, and is now a retired Judge. What’s the problem, CT?
Comment by Zooey
Uh. Uh. Um….[sweating]….NOTHING! Nothing is the problem, Zooey. I was just jokin’ and pokin’ at the law-yers of today, not yesteryear. I’m sure your father was a dignified lawyer and man!
June 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pmCoulter’s smugness is what most makes me want to just smack the shit out of her.
Comment by beltman713
Even Ghandi would have smacked her.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pmI love the nickname, Wayne.
I laugh everytime.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:11 pmComment by Wayne
NO! A chocolate double-fudge cookie lawyer. I still have time to become one.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:11 pmMann Coulter paid good money for those boobs.
I can see the Adams Apple in that photo.
My only question about Trannie Annie is…
Pre-op or post-op?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:11 pmCoulter actually thinks that hair throwing makes her sexy. She is a nothing. Low class. Vulgar.
Elizabeth Edwards is fantastic! What a woman. Confronted her with grace and dignity.
Hardball has sunk to the lowest of the low having Coulter as a guest.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:13 pm“Ever so lovely to see you as well, CT, but you’re making me puke. Heh.”
Comment be Zooey
I thought you were already doing that with 99.9% of my posts, or did you secretly agree with me?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:14 pm#88
Sure seemed like an admission that all her books are are personal attacks to me.
I was shocked that she would concede reality so willingly.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:15 pmTom3,
I thought they were supposed to shave that.
Maybe she didn’t get the best Doc after all.
:P
June 26th, 2007 at 7:15 pmI have a friend who’s lived through pancreatic cancer for 14 years. Maybe they can manage her cancer that long. :)
Comment by Zooey
Living for 14 years with pancreatic cancer is very, very rare. It is one of the cancers with the highest mortality rates, and most people go quite quickly after it is discovered. To wit, one of my friends was found to have it in June one year and died in September. One of my sisters-in-law lasted about 14 months after first being diagnosed. Even Emperor Hirohito of Japan, who surely must have had the best medical care available, lasted only about 4-5 months with it. Your friend is extremely lucky and must have the tumor in a more manageable area.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:15 pmBut some types of cancer are more manageable. I hope that’s the case with Elizabeth Edwards, a woman with more class in her baby toe than Ann Coulter has in her entire ugly self.
Harpy Coulter personifies the classic liberal dilemma in responding to the shrill, ad hominem attacks of the right punditocracy. They prey upon our fundamental respect for others and our tolerance of disagreement. It’s tempting to slide into the juvenile name-calling and tit-for-tat exchanges that they crave, but we can’t; they’ll turn that on us, too, arguing that equally shrill responses belie our claims to an intellectual high ground.
In other words, never wrestle with a pig. You both get covered in shit, and the pig likes it.
The struggle continues…
June 26th, 2007 at 7:16 pmAnn Coulter. The Fascist’s paris Hilton.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:17 pmUh. Uh. Um….[sweating]….NOTHING! Nothing is the problem, Zooey. I was just jokin’ and pokin’ at the law-yers of today, not yesteryear. I’m sure your father was a dignified lawyer and man!
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 7:09 pm
Keep your cool, CT.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:18 pmYou want the best, the nastiest lawyer jokes?
Talk to a lawyer, they know ‘em all.
They know firsthand what assholes lawyers can be.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:19 pmPlease, Chris Matthews, don’t ever put her on the show again. She is the most hateful, hurtful, person I have ever heard speak and you are so above this kind of behavior. She has no place in the political process — she is corrupting the political process!!!!!! NO MORE ANN!!!!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 7:23 pmUnder normal times Coulter should be allowed to stand on a box in the public square and spout her wisdoms. Not invited into our livingrooms to polute the atmosphere.
However, these are not normal times! We need to have Coulter, Cheney, Poderetz and all the other shrill assh*les doing their worst so the apathetic and uninformed among us see this crap for what it is.
So, bring on Coulter, and bring the best and brightest, like Elizabeth Edwards to compare and contrast her to. There is no question in my mind who will be on top, while the Coulters look chagrined in the mud at the bottom of their grave, dug with their own hands.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:24 pmComment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
You’re right, PiP. Me keepin’ it cool makes it all cool.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:26 pm#117 Comment by BlueArkansas — June 26, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
Bravo Blue, well said!
The same advice for trolls here as well.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:27 pmUh. Uh. Um….[sweating]….NOTHING! Nothing is the problem, Zooey. I was just jokin’ and pokin’ at the law-yers of today, not yesteryear. I’m sure your father was a dignified lawyer and man!
Comment by CT V_1
Yes, he still is.
Thanks, CT.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:28 pmIf you play the song “I Feel Pretty†backwards and listen carefully, you can hear the sound of John Edwards preening. Comment by Frank J
I happen to visualize Mitt Romney splashing on old spice when I do that =)
Reelllytho, what does any of this mean? Not a dayum thing.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:28 pmCoulter needs to be SLAPPED UPSIDE THE HEAD WITH A TIRE IRON.
Teach HIM some respect…
June 26th, 2007 at 7:31 pmwhen I grow up.
Comment by CT V_1
We already knew that you’re an immature puke. You’ve still got time to LEARN, oh smitey-one.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:31 pmIn case it’s too difficult to understand the crust of Ann’s position, she admits that her books are filled with nothing but hate and vitrol. If she were not to include those attributes in her books, she would have nothing to write about hence her equation of Mrs. Edwards request for her to stop including hate in her speech with not writing books at all. She knows that that is all she has. Nothing of substance, only hate and vitrol. It’s amazing that she still gets interviews on national tv. Imagine if a Michael Moore or an equivalent pundit from the left were to speak with such hatred. Would they be invited back numerous times simply because they have a new book out? I seriously doubt it.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:32 pmSomeone learned from Bill Clinton’s Fox appearance. These right wing attacks must be met forcefully, immediately and publicly.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:34 pmAmazing Grace = Elizabeth Edwards.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:34 pmFavorite hate-sow of the toothless redneck GOP base. Their family values are shown in their endorsement of a transexual slut who shows up for appearances all hours of the day in a black cocktail dress.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:35 pmI hope that’s the case with Elizabeth Edwards, a woman with more class in her baby toe than Ann Coulter has in her entire ugly self.
Comment by Lora — June 26, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
You give AC too much credit, Lora. :)
Thanks for your well wishes for my old friend. I think he’s survived this long through sheer stubbornness. They say it’s in remission, but pancreatic cancer never really goes away. I’m so thankful for every additional day.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:36 pmInteresting that when Edwards asked Coulter to stop the personal attacks, Coulter responded with-you want me to stop writing books, stop writing my column…in other words, Coulter admitted she doesn’t have any substance, only the insults and smears.
Elizabeth Edwards shows more class and dignity, not to mention a handle on important national issues than Coulter ever has.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:36 pmSomeone learned from Bill Clinton’s Fox appearance. These right wing attacks must be met forcefully, immediately and publicly.
Comment by JMOHR
It’s the only thing that works. Strike back while the sheeple are watching.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:38 pmI’m sorry, what was I thinking, people like that don’t feel, it’s all about the politics never about the issues
no, its not about politics for them.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:39 pmits about WINNING.
they dont care about right or wrong.
they care about WINNING.
Trizza, no kidding! Look at how Moore is being villified now? HE’S FAT! PETA decided to jump on the bandwagon, too. And for what? Exposing the American healthcare system for what it is.
If Moore called for the assasination of a supreme court justice, if he called someone a faggot, if he did a fraction of what this vapid and vicious c\/nt gets away with, they’d hang him from the closes tree.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pm#23 is correct. Every one of us that uses a digital cable box or satellite receiver has their viewing choices logged for ratings purposes. If Matthews has Coulter on and his ratings go up even a tiny bit, this is noted. Your cable box cannot register your disgust as you slum around by watching Matthews and Coulter make fools of themselves; it simply shows you were interested in the show, same as if you were a full-scale dittohead and loved Coulter and followed her every move. Boycott, period.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmI saw it and Elizabeth didn’t answer Ann’s accusation of Edwards frivilous lawsuit.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:44 pmAnn stood here ground and hit back classic.
None of your spin will change that.
As for ann being a hater.
Thgis website tops here!
Ann stood here ground and hit back classic.
None of your spin will change that.
As for ann being a hater.
Thgis website tops here!
Comment by Mike tyson
A real thinker, oh yeah
June 26th, 2007 at 7:50 pmHave a link to that “Thgis”website, Einstein?
I saw it and Elizabeth didn’t answer Ann’s accusation of Edwards frivilous lawsuit. (Elizabeth is not her husband)
June 26th, 2007 at 7:51 pmAnn stood here ground and hit back classic.
(Your opinion)
None of your spin will change that.
(Nor will yours the audience cheers)
As for ann being a hater.
(Who is her God anyway?)
Thgis website tops here!
(spit that ear out, I can’t understand you)
Comment by Mike tyson
Ann Coulter, see you next Tuesday.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:53 pmWhat part of “do not feed the trolls” do people not understand? Whatever we do here, please DO NOT send any “suggested questions for Coulter” to Chris Matthews, or watch his show. Do something with your life, DO NOT watch that already-useless show when she is on as a guest! Satellite receivers and digital cable boxes send instant ratings information to the providers. MSNBC hears about this; if Matthews’ ratings go up when she is on the air, you can count on it that he’ll have her back again. Why contribute to that? Do not feed the trolls. If this is good enough for the comments here on TP, shouldn’t this be an even more important motto when Corporate America is checking to see if you are watching?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:56 pmComment by Mike tyson — June 26, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Sigh…another troll. Nothing to say to us today, Mikey the “fighter?” So far you haven’t shown much. Shape up or VV will send you back to the troll locker room for punishment. You are in the big leagues here fella. If you can’t do better than this anemic drivel, its back to the minors at Little Green Footfungus.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:57 pmann coultergeist is one skank bitch
June 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pmContinue that line Elizabeth….b/c Trolls, like Coulter, are humans afterall and need our unconditional love to feel secure enough to let down their ideological defensiveness…to be able discuss policies that will help us all. Jeebus saves.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:00 pmMSNBC is on a race to the bottom where all the trolls on this comments page live.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pmLong live the bottom, and to all the slime that inhabit it!
One wonders why the media keeps putting on so much trash like A.C.? all that venom and Hate, wishing people were dead and name calling have nothing to do with what is real or even politic….it is grade school polemics at its worst. It cheapens everyone who has to listen to it and is dragging our country down into a cesspool.
I admire Elizabeth Edwards as a person of love and mindfullness.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pmso glad to see elizabeth edwards vs ann coulter. edwards shows such class
June 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pm“Cold”turd makes a pile of cow shit smell like a rose. Hard on a ball Mathews should have a brain transplant to go with his cowardness. They are proof less is more. Their parents had the shit kicked out of them and now one has the skinny legs in a dress and the other pretends he knows what he’s talking about. Shame on them.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pmwhen she’s says something that’s patently untrue, it’s not inexplicable. the explanation is: she’s a liar.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:05 pmYou know, you’d think that Matthews would have a requirement that unless someone is impaired (beyond Coulter’s clear judgment problems) that they can’t hide behind a mask or sunglasses while spewing whatever they have to say on television. People deserve to see Coulter’s frightened little eyes twitch while she talks.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:05 pmmAnn Coulter is a skanky cunt and she is the best the republic party has to offer. Sad ole Party that once was the Grand ole party.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:08 pmThe INSTANT she hears is Mrs. Edwards on the line, she starts squirming, and fussing with her mane (she does have a horse face) like a guilty little child who fears a scolding coming their way…
P R I C E L E S S.
Comment by Not Canadian — June 26, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
I agree Coulter is incredibly hateful, which totally negates the instances in which her arguments are sound. However, these characterizations of the interview are not true. Coulter was squirming and fussing with her hair from the beginning of the interview. There were a couple of times when she avoided answering questions directly, but she never appeared uncomfortable. Edwards opened himself up to comments about his son, though not what she said, by constantly bringing up his death in situations in which it had no bearing.
“…Not invited into our livingrooms to polute the atmosphere….”
Comment by Merlin — June 26, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
I believe the usual response to this would be, “Change the channel.” ;)
June 26th, 2007 at 8:10 pmOther than his praise about Ann Coulter’s book-selling capabilities, what would Chris Matthews know about women? After all, doesn’t he have a pheremonal jones for Thompson?
“Hardball” it’s not: Limpball is way more accurate.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:14 pmDID NO ONE ELSE NOTICE THAT SHE SAID A HATEFUL JEWISH TERM?!
Sheister = a Jew’y lawyer who screws people over for money
June 26th, 2007 at 8:14 pmI can’t believe no one has remarked on Coulter’s calling jury members “illiterate.” Good citizens would be more like it. I guess if she had called them “ho’s” then maybe we’d have something. I’d love to see an interview with some of the jury members.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pm#141 Comment by sponson — June 26, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
… if Matthews’ ratings go up when she is on the air, you can count on it that he’ll have her back again. Why contribute to that? Do not feed the trolls. If this is good enough for the comments here on TP, shouldn’t this be an even more important motto when Corporate America is checking to see if you are watching?
Not necessarily! Read my comment #121 above for my reasoning. These are not normal times! We have a lot of uninformed people to educate. Let Coulter and Matthews help us do that.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pmWhy would people want to associate with this vile harpy? Is this what happens when you surrender your standards entirely?
June 26th, 2007 at 8:23 pmWait, wait, wait, she really made a wisecrack about the death of their son? Shes a iconic voice of the religious right, shes really writes books about us godless liberals, wow its amazing to see how low these supposed strong christians will go, God help us.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:24 pm#152 Comment by upright left — June 26, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
“…Not invited into our livingrooms to polute the atmosphere….â€
Comment by Merlin — June 26, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
I believe the usual response to this would be, “Change the channel.†;)
No, it would not in the case of my post. You took my comment out of context, and you missed my point I fear, or you would not have answered thus. My point was not about free speech or whether Matthews has the right to choose. Or that I am ranting about the horror of having Coulter on TV. Or whether the solution to my “problem” is to change the channel. I was responding to another post that ranted that.
Rather, it was the juxtaposing of the times we live in. Normal times=change the channel, while shaking one’s head at the ratings addicted mentality that invites such tripe on the air, which is what aware people will do. Today, in this atmosphere of up=down, we need people to see the crap for what it is. They will watch and get an education. Then they too will change the channel. We have a lot of educating to do.
Read my post again and tell me how I could have communicated my thought better.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:32 pmAnn Coulter should be seen as often as possible. She does more good for the Democrats than the presidential hopefuls do. She is so despicable and the GOP backs her by saying nothing about her vitriolic attacks suggesting assassination and murder of anyoneshe disagrees with Murder, you see in her opinion, is a lovely joke. Her joke about the Edwards dead son was hilarious! It brought tears to my eyes as a mother. Let her speak load and clear. Elizabeth Edwards a lady and such a class act, Ann was almost pitiful.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:37 pmshe’s a bus stop lunatic with a platinum platform.
christ. what a mess.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:40 pmThey should duel. Or choose seconds.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:41 pm#160 Comment by Jill Perry — June 26, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Thanks for answering my question in #159. (Even though I was not addressing you.) You said it better than I did.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:42 pmHey, enough with the “hot lesbian action” involving Ann and Elizabeth. It’s really very childish. Also it is very much incorrect: it couldn’t be lesbian sex because Ann is a man.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:43 pmAnn Coulter says something and she is absolutely castigated. Yes she does say some outrageous things, but that is all you left wing cry babies can complain about. You never take her to task on her political and philosophical points because you can’t because if you did, you would lose. And another thing, how come when one of your left wing clowns says something on the same low brow level as some of the things Miss Coulter says, you are all mysteriously silent. Your hypocrisy and lack of intellectual honesty disgust me.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:48 pmMerlin,
June 26th, 2007 at 8:53 pmwe have Coulter, you have Olbermann.
As for LGF, unlike your Pro-Muslism ilk that site keeps aware of the Jihadist threat.
You root for the Jihadist traitor!
Go back to your fairy tales has been fake wizard!
Coulter is right. Coulter cannot make a career writing books without the shocking language and strange half-witted conspiracies. Coulter may be correct about some of the Democrats doings (god knows they are hardly clean) but her writing would be nothing special if it didn’t read like it was written by a tantrum throwing child. She is no different from Limbaugh, Emenem, or Marilyn Manson. It may sound strange but they are in the same business. No honesty, just extreme for the sake of being extreme.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:54 pmI’d rebut the trolls, but I’d have to wait for them to come back from crazytown.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:54 pmYou are my god will you make love to me
June 26th, 2007 at 8:56 pmAnd another thing, how come when one of your left wing clowns says something on the same low brow level as some of the things Miss Coulter says, you are all mysteriously silent. Your hypocrisy and lack of intellectual honesty disgust me.
OK, care to give us an EXAMPLE of ANYONE on the left using the HATE-language???
Otherwise it is YOUR hypocrisy and TRAITOR Bush’s and YOUR lies that are disgusting.
AND TREASONOUS…
Come on, BRING IT ON!!
June 26th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThat is right. All you flakes can come up with is ad hominem bull shit that isn’t even funny or witty, but rather infantile and moronic.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:02 pmwe have Coulter, you have Olbermann.
Sure, if you want to put it that way. You know she’s an “intelligent design” nitwit right?
June 26th, 2007 at 9:02 pmI wonder how many liberal parents in here want their kids to become ______ lawyers. We need more overpaid, overcharging bums in America, more ambulance chasers.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
I’m sorry, but if I’m not mistaken, Ann Coulter has a LAW degree. (That, of course, isn’t the same thing as “practicing law”, but still…….)
June 26th, 2007 at 9:04 pm“Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Liar” “Lies and the Filthy liars that Tell them” Or whatever those brilliant tomes by Al Franken were. When Cheney was in the hospital on of your View babes basically said, “Good, I hope he dies.”
June 26th, 2007 at 9:05 pmRosie O’Donnel. Sean Penn. Do I have to go on?
Funny how popular it is for folks to throw accusations at straw men these days. I always thought that was an intellectual faux pas. Here’s a test. If you are about to say something that begins as “You pansy liberals…” or “You idiot conservatives…” take the time to realize that just because someone has an idea that has been designated by the media as left or right wing it doesn’t mean they agree with all ideas of that particular political designation. Put short, it’s just immature and useless generalization. Unfortunately it does sell books.
Start attacking ideas on an individual basis and leave the misdirection to the experts in the media. Otherwise please just go back to shouting at your TV. You won’t persuade anyone by attacking them. In fact you’ll just strengthen their convictions.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:06 pmantoher leftwing sneak attack that fails blah blah
June 26th, 2007 at 9:07 pmNicely put, WallyAnti.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:08 pmDid you ever hear a Liberal and/or Progressive and/or Democrat publically call for the execution of their political opponents? Did you ever hear a Liberal and/or Progressive and/or Democrat publically accuse their opponent of using their dead son as a political tool? Did you ever hear a Liberal and/or Progressive and/or Democrat publically call acccuse their opponent of using their wife’s terminal cancer to get votes? As Mathews asked – why are Hillary’s legs important?
You dare call these comments “political and philosophical points”?
You need to think before you post (talk about intellectual dishonesty – your post is the epitome of intellectual dishonesty). If you can’t, you should STFU.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:08 pmanother i mean
June 26th, 2007 at 9:08 pm#166 Comment by Mike tyson — June 26, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Merlin,
we have Coulter, you have Olbermann.
As for LGF, unlike your Pro-Muslism ilk that site keeps aware of the Jihadist threat.
You root for the Jihadist traitor!
Go back to your fairy tales has been fake wizard!
BwaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa You trolls that can’t put a string of talking points together crack me up. Fumbling, stuttering,,,,HaaaaHaaaa… Stop it will you, the tears are clogging my keyboard.
Whew… (wiping away tears of laughter) Now that I think about it, please stay and keep me entertained with your “Amateur Hour” attempt at angry provocation. (remember that “Amateur Hour” show? If the audience did not like your performance, a little troll like man woul pull you off stage with a big hook!. Nah, you are a troll. What do you know?) VV really needs to teach you a thing or two about trolling.
Pssst, Mikey, I got to ya with that LGF thingie, didn’t I. Out trolled the troll!
BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa
You’re a failure around here, Bitin’ Mike (who never fought a fight in your life.) You can’t even make it as a troll.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:10 pmHaaaaHaaaaHaaaa
#132
Interesting that when Edwards asked Coulter to stop the personal attacks, Coulter responded with-you want me to stop writing books, stop writing my column…in other words, Coulter admitted she doesn’t have any substance, only the insults and smears…
Comment by nullEmerald — June 26, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
Good point, null.
Unfortunately, people like Coulter will always cull a following from supporters and detractors alike. They say what they say to provoke a response, positive or negative, and that’s the key to their longevity. Love her or lover to hater her — it’s all the same. She will remain in the spotlight as long as she can strike a nerve — or until we all, finally, grow tired of her… but by then someone new will be ready to take her place. Until then, she and her kind remain the poster children for how to abuse your freedom for notoriety and personal gain.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:10 pmOnce again proving that America’s instiututions of higher education will sell a degree to damn near anyone.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:10 pm“Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Liar†“Lies and the Filthy liars that Tell them†Or whatever those brilliant tomes by Al Franken were. When Cheney was in the hospital on of your View babes basically said, “Good, I hope he dies.â€
Rosie O’Donnel. Sean Penn. Do I have to go on?
As far as Lush goes, it is TRUE, and Franken used FACTS to SHOW it.
I don’t know who said “Cheney should DIE”, but I DID say he should be IN JAIL and TORTURED for his TREASON.
Rosie, Sean Penn tell the TRUTH about your TREASONOUS AWOL Bush.
ALL of them use FACTS.
Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Dildo, etc., use LIES and HALF-TRUTHS and INNUENDO.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:12 pmNeed I SAY MORE????
I was watching Chris Matthews like every night but decided to switch to Jeopardy since Ann Coulter was on. So I missed Elizabeth Edwards’s call I’m sorry to say. Go Elizabeth!! She’s one classy lady. I also like her husband. I’ve Googled Ann tonight trying to find out about her early years and can’t find anything. Am I the only one who notices her Adam’s apple? I would like to see a high school yearbook picture to prove she isn’t a boy. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it adds to her hypocrisy.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:12 pmYeah. Way to miss the point of what I said. Maybe you should read what she has written and actually THINK about some of the things she has said and not get all emotional and wet yourself. Yes she does say outrageous things, but there are those on the other side who say simalar things and get a pass. There’s your hypocrisy.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:14 pmGood Night. This is a grand waste of time.
You don’t need to say a thing. You just made my point.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:15 pmYou’re a failure around here, Bitin’ Mike (who never fought a fight in your life.) You can’t even make it as a troll.
HaaaaHaaaaHaaaa
Comment by Merlin
The poor little trollie who couldn’t….. :D
June 26th, 2007 at 9:15 pmComment by rightwingislonely — June 26, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Name the people on “our side” who are saying the same things AC is saying, and getting a pass.
You can’t.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:18 pmLets face it, the reason why this occured is because Chris Matthews wanted the money. :P
June 26th, 2007 at 9:18 pmrightwingislonely is absolutely right. Taken as a group, left, right, and center have examples of personal attacks. All sides are to blame, so howsabout we just stop joining sides and speak for ourselves instead of on the behalf of, or in response to hate spewing pundits. These supposed mature adults have forgotten the childhood adage of “two wrongs don’t make a right.” The media may need to raise the standards of debate, but instead of mimicking them hows about we work on raising our standards here on the web.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:18 pmMy God…Ann Coulter is INSANE.
Which must mean that anyone buying any of her books must be equally INSANE, or verging on insanity, or just plain clueless.
As I’ve told people who I catch listening to Rush Limbaugh or any of the other right-wing pundits who are “truth-challenged,” anyone listening to them runs the risk of suffering from severe brain rot.
In a similar vein, all of Ann Coulter’s books should carry the warning: “Potential Brain Rot Likely If You Read This Book.”
Police facing anyone “carrying” an Ann Coulter book should be trained to respond: “Put the book down…slowly. Step away from it, and keep your hands in sight.” Some things are downright dangerous. And can cause brain rot.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:18 pmGood for Elizabeth. She was able to say what she needed to say without reducing herself to Coulter’s slimeyness. If you took away Ann’s ability to spew her vile garbage, she wouldn’t have anything else to talk about. She is a poor excuse for a human being. (There is a term for people like that: HPS = Human Piece of Sh*t).
June 26th, 2007 at 9:19 pmI don’t think Ann Coulter is insane, she is just one-dimensional. She is just below common (instead of her acting (or just her act) like she is above it all looking down from her throne of intellectual supremecy)..
June 26th, 2007 at 9:22 pmIf you took away Ann’s ability to spew her vile garbage, she wouldn’t have anything else to talk about.
Comment by JG
Which explains her distress. When EE asked her to knock off the personal attacks, Ann complained “she wants me to stop writing books!”
So much for the deep philosophical insight the wingnuts here claim to find in her books.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:22 pmAnd I forgot. She is just plain mean. She must be one very loney, angry, mean and nasty, very unhappy person. I can’t imagine ANYONE on the planet ever wanting to have any kind of relationship with her. Pathetic..
June 26th, 2007 at 9:24 pmChickenwingsonly: Name one before you run away. I’d be interested in hearing your answer.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:25 pmThere is something sick and twisted with any female who identifies with the crime family of thugs. They have deep secrets from their childhoods of abuse. Women are not supposed to be that vile and wicked.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:26 pmIt’s about time the Right show some hatred. The left has been playing dirty and ugly for so long and now the right is finally playing the game the left use to be so good at. Remember how the left forged document on President Bush and all the stuff that have been said about the President. Ann take the fight to the left and kick ass. The left just can’t take what they dish out. Keep kicking their asses!
June 26th, 2007 at 9:28 pmLook rightwingislonely, I will admit that there are idiot liberal pundits too. They just don’t get as much airtime as Limbaugh and Coulter. But the fact that they exist DOES NOT give Ann Coulter a free pass to be a hateful bigot. I welcome the conservatives who have been insulted by Rosie O’Donnell to call in and say the same things that Edwards did. The point here is that Ann Coulter really is making a mockery of the political system and is harming it as a result. She should stop it. End of story.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:32 pmComment by Allen Smithee — June 26, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
The forged document came from KKKarl Rove. The real documents that prove Dubya is an AWOL coward were destroyed by Dan Bartlett and that fat assed bitch that worked with him to get Dubya in the governor office in Texas. Dubya is the one who cannot prove he served his time. Get a life, dumbass.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:32 pmShe called for the assassination of a presidential candidate. She’s purposely changing the topic, because she IS beneath contempt. Really, the problem isn’t her; it’s the media who provide her a soap box; it’s a culture that finds nothing wrong with that kind of behavior.
She’s free to speak. But Americans are so stupid…or hateful…that they listen. And THAT is the problem.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:34 pm“The left has been playing dirty and ugly for so long and now the right is finally playing the game the left use to be so good at.”
Hmm the left might have learned from the right. You know, the folks who built a committee to investigate a Democrat president’s receipt of a blowjob. I guess there wasn’t enough lawmaking to do at the time? I realize he did lie under oath. But he never would have been questioned under oath if Repubs weren’t playing dirty.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:35 pmThe Left virtually invented the hate speech and personal destruction that are the hallmarks of today’s political discourse. Now they’re whining that some conservatives are using their tactics against them? Well… tough sh1t, leftists. You reap what you sow…
June 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pmAnn Coulter needs HIS face smashed for HIS LIES…
June 26th, 2007 at 9:39 pmAnn, Elizabeth, fellow bloggers – thanks for giving me something to stare at tonight. I don’t have a life.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:40 pmThe Left virtually invented the hate speech and personal destruction that are the hallmarks of today’s political discourse. Now they’re whining that some conservatives are using their tactics against them? Well… tough sh1t, leftists. You reap what you sow…
Comment by Bubba Magoo
Again, give us an EXAMPLE of the left’s “hate speech”.
Actually, the left is starting to get as LOUD as the rightwing nutjobs. Except we use FACTS instead of LIES, INNUENDOS and HALF-TRUTHS.
So, actually, YOU reap what YOU sow, scumbag…
June 26th, 2007 at 9:42 pm#175 Comment by WallyAnti — June 26, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Start attacking ideas on an individual basis and leave the misdirection to the experts in the media. …You won’t persuade anyone by attacking them. In fact you’ll just strengthen their convictions.
1. You can’t attack “ideas” if those ideas are totally false representations of what the person is saying. You can’t debate lies and deception.
2. There has not been a troll on this board who has “discussing” ideas as his objective. Trolls come here to hyjack the thread and irritate and anger the posters here in any way they can. They provoke and present a phony front, we beat the shit out of them. Fair is fair.
3. And you say: “leave the misdirection to the experts in the media”. What the devil are you talking about? The experts in the media like Chris Matthews, O’Reilly or David Broder? Experts??? What experts? So you believe that we should just lay back and let the media determine what we think, intuit and feel? If you believe this you must be a philosopher who hasn’t left foggy bottom in the last 30 years.
4. And you said:
“…time to realize that just because someone has an idea that has been designated by the media as left or right wing it doesn’t mean they agree with all ideas of that particular political designation.”
This is more of the same “out of touch” believing I mentioned in 3, above. That you can equate what once was a viable exchange of ideas, years ago, with the neocon lies and deception today, that have surfaced like a carbuncle (a boil with many heads) on the face of this country, shows you have a lot of homework to do about what is really going on.
Unless you are just being a troll… are you? My future responses will reflect your answer.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:55 pm“CATFIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 26, 2007 @ 6:08 pm”
No, this isn’t a catfight. This is Elizabeth Edwards bringing it to Ann Coulter. This is a strong, courageous and intelligent woman addressing an issue that needed to be addressed a decade ago – the trash in our political discourse.
Of all the people on the campaign trail, of every race and gender and every political party you could name, today and yesterday, Elizabeth Edwards has more courage than all of them put together. She has more strength of character in her little pinky than Coulter has in her entire cadre of fellow travelers. Godspeed, Elizabeth Edwards.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:01 pmmerlin I think you are using too many words.
YES to Hype-Jersey
June 26th, 2007 at 10:04 pmComment by Hype-Jersey — June 26, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Yeah…
like I said…
CATFIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:11 pm#201 Comment by Allen Smithee — June 26, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
It’s about time the Right show some hatred. The left has been playing dirty and ugly for so long and now the right is finally playing the game the left use to be so good at.
Oh look, another troll popped in from the troll locker room over at the Hollywood Gym for Men. How are you doing trollie? Very sharp name you chose there! Has a nice hollow ring to it, ya know? Well, no matter, you didn’t choose it anyway. You don’t have the brain power for such a task.
Look, about the passage I quoted above…well, I don’t want to hurt your feelings or anything, but this trick is so passe! Old hat! Discarded with searsucker suits. Take the truth, turn it on its head and accuse your opponent with it. Blame him for your “sin.” BushCo burned that one out years ago.
How many of you new “wet behind the ears” trolls do I have to tell before you get it? Shape up around here. Don’t waste our time with this outdated drivel! Challenge us! …Sigh, oh just go back to the minor leagues at Little Green Footfungus until you can do better.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:11 pmYou can’t spell aNne CoUlTer with C-U-N-T
June 26th, 2007 at 10:12 pmIf I was Chris Matthews I would’ve asked why she wanted me to read the sentence, she wrote it didn’t she? She should know what the hell she wrote about someone. That is ofcourse if she even wrote it or just ripped off someone elses words again.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:14 pmTake the truth, turn it on its head and accuse your opponent with it. Blame him for your “sin.†BushCo burned that one out years ago.
- Merlin
heads will implode. finally.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:16 pmmerlin – Isn’t it past your bedtime?
June 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pmIs there anyone who doesn’t realize Coulter is a man in drag? Take a good look at him.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pmcoulter is not intelligently designed.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:18 pm#212 Comment by no life — June 26, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
merlin I think you are using too many words.
YES to Hype-Jersey
Comment by no life — June 26, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
Thanks for your brief comment. Care to expand on that so I can understand what you mean?
June 26th, 2007 at 10:19 pmCoulter is amazing. Not one of her replies was direct.She was flipping her hair, moving her legs, and trying to redirect the accusations. What a rotten excuse for a person. I did not nor will I vote for John Edwards, but good for his spouse defending the memory of her child. Coulter is a shallow waste of space.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:22 pmLiz had a real shot to make Mann look like the cook idiot she is.. and kinda didn’t really do a great job. Kinda disappointing!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:27 pm#218 Comment by no life — June 26, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
merlin – Isn’t it past your bedtime?
Oh, boy, another trollie paying attention to me!!! Why, I am just thrilled. Thank you so much for watching out for me. I’m glad I have given you something to do. I feel so fulfilled… I’m soooo sad you have no life. Sigh… but then that is a troll’s existence, isn’t it?
About your question…no, happily for you I will be here for you to fret over until your wittle eyes close.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:29 pmI don’t think she is a man, just chronically in a state of premenstrual.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:30 pmmerlin – Isn’t it past your bedtime?
Comment by no life — June 26, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
was that an insult? christ, you’re no good. It’s past my bed time.
But then again, I have things to accomplish in the morning.
no life is appropriate.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:31 pm…didn’t really do a great job. Kinda disappointing!
Comment by Philly CK — June 26, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
the way coulter was miked had more to do with that…
she got more volume than the phone call…
on top of being rude and disrespectful, interrupting and talking over…
coulter is a vile creature…
June 26th, 2007 at 10:32 pmand tweety should be villified for allowing her bad behavior…
…
Ann Coulter is the political equivalent of Ozzy Osbourne or Alice Cooper or some other 1970s pig’s blood heavy metal act, biting the heads off sparrows, that sort of thing. I’m sufficiently old-fogeyish to find this more distasteful coming from a woman than a man. Note that there were no female shock-rockers of note in that dismal heyday. And so I understand why some would focus on Coulter’s gender, because it seems even uglier and more unnatural coming from a woman. But it’s sexist, and we should probably knock it off.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:33 pm“Ann now resembles a pair of fake boobs on toothpicks”
…aside from the single boob perched atop her shoulders, where’s the other from the “pair”…?
June 26th, 2007 at 10:35 pm#223 Comment by Philly CK — June 26, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
Liz had a real shot to make Mann look like the cook idiot she is.. and kinda didn’t really do a great job. Kinda disappointing!
Do you know what a really powerful woman looks and acts like? If you did not see that in Elizabeth, you are looking for the wrong things. This is called strength with class, in my view.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:36 pmozzie was booted outa texas for pissing on the Alamo… kth.
this piece of work pisses on everybody. it’s not human. it’s a gas.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:37 pmChris is as conservative as they get, and looking at the dialogue, even he almost wanted to punch Coulter in the face.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:40 pmCan someone just shoot this bitch (Ann)?
June 26th, 2007 at 10:41 pmIf you play the song “I Feel Pretty†backwards and listen carefully, you can hear the sound of John Edwards preening.
Comment by Frank J
But Frank, he’s no match for TRudi in a strapless blue number, w/ a string of pearls!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:41 pmthank goodness she’s out there kicking those stupid lib-dems ass.
Liberals suck.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:43 pmLike their idol, Trolls never engage their brains before opening their pieholes.
Comment by TheToonGuy
Uh, ToonGuy, those aren’t exactly their pieholes.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:48 pmAH–The Paris Hilton of politics! We should all let MSNBC and every one of the advertisers on Matthew’s show know that this type of programming is unacceptable and that we will NOT purchase their products in the future.
In this world, unfortunately, only money talks!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:48 pmComment by Frank J
If you play the song “I Feel Pretty†backwards and listen carefully, you can hear the sound of John Edwards preening.
Isn’t this creative, folks? You know, those wingees sure can come up with great ideas to discuss! Another great neocon talking point! Golly, I’m just so impressed.
Let’s give him a hand, folks!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:49 pmthank goodness she’s out there kicking those stupid lib-dems ass.
Liberals suck.
Comment by jakdracula — June 26, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
..and there you have it. in a nutshell. this is why i don’t want to
shut the freaks up, this is the base… all 20 something percent.
once again, thank you freakshow… in one post you’ve proved
to the reasonable conservatives what I would spend a weekend
trying to explain.
jakdracula, you are a winner!
god bless you.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:49 pmMedia Matters will call for the banning of Ann Coulter from MSNBC as well CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and so on. Boy, these Lefties really love free speech and diversity of opinion. What wimps!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:49 pmIf we want Ann (and other right-wing folks) to stop with the attacks, why can’t we do the same?
Comment by Matt — June 26, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
I wondered if any lefties would see this point. It’s as though nobody even heard Edward’s comment about how hateful personal attacks lower the level of political discourse. Yeah, I know this is a blog. But it is still political discussion, presumably for the purpose of effecting change. At least that’s what TP says in “What We’re About.” ;)
June 26th, 2007 at 10:52 pm——
Media Matters will call for the banning of Ann Coulter from MSNBC as well CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and so on. Boy, these Lefties really love free speech and diversity of opinion. What wimps!
Comment by Jose Chung — June 26, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
it takes a reaL TOUGH guy to type that out.
you’re just silly.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:53 pm#235 Comment by jakdracula — June 26, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
thank goodness she’s out there kicking those stupid lib-dems ass.
Liberals suck.
BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa
It just keeps going on and on! One brilliant troll after another shooting their imaginary load in TPs direction. This almost tops Leno and Letterman in stand-up comedy.
HaaaaaHaaaaHaaaa…Encore!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:55 pmJose–and what about Brett Bozell and his right-wingnut groups [not to mention Focus on the Family] that are always pressuring on advertisers and boycotting their products??
You “ban” someone by putting your “money” where your ideology is. Remember, it’s a conservative Supreme Court that ruled that money is political speech!!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:56 pmUh, ToonGuy, those aren’t exactly their pieholes.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 26, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
HaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa. Perfect visual!
June 26th, 2007 at 10:56 pmIsn’t this creative, folks? You know, those wingees sure can come up with great ideas to discuss! Another great neocon talking point! Golly, I’m just so impressed.
Let’s give him a hand, folks!
Comment by Merlin — June 26, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
It’s humor, Merlin. Have you missed all the threads lately noting that humor has been used throughout history as a form of political expression? Oh, wait, I guess that only applies if it is humor on the part of a liberal. Fair and balanced! ;)
June 26th, 2007 at 10:56 pmIt’s humor, Merlin. Have you missed all the threads lately noting that humor has been used throughout history as a form of political expression? Oh, wait, I guess that only applies if it is humor on the part of a liberal. Fair and balanced! ;)
Comment by upright left — June 26, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
welp, you’re a f*ckn joke.
tee hee?
June 26th, 2007 at 10:59 pmCall me wierd, but the whole time I’m just mesmerized by her hair while she bitches on.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:02 pmwelp, you’re a f*ckn joke.
tee hee?
Comment by alp3 — June 26, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Oh so harsh alpie. I’m crushed! ;)
June 26th, 2007 at 11:04 pmlike a bug.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:06 pmIt’s humor, Merlin. Have you missed all the threads lately noting that humor has been used throughout history as a form of political expression? Oh, wait, I guess that only applies if it is humor on the part of a liberal. Fair and balanced! ;)
Comment by upright left — June 26, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Humor? Really? Well who would have ever guessed? Neocon talking points that are just meant as happy humor. You certainly have taught me something here…. Let’s see…hmmm have to see the defin… no may wiki can help… Ah! maybe under fair and balanced. Wow this is difficult. Really makes me appreciate wingees all the more.
Pssst… I’m still waiting for your critique of my post #123 & 126. I can hardly wait.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:11 pmMerlin,
Humor AND sarcasm? Don’t tax the poor trollie! :D
June 26th, 2007 at 11:21 pmComment by Merlin — June 26, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
Geeze, oh man, not again. You appear to be confusing posts and posters. I only responded to the post about John Edwards and “I feel pretty.” THAT is humor. It was a joke and it was funny. No, it’s not serious discussion of political policy. It’s humor. I won’t explain this any further. If you require further explanation, just ask one of your fellow….oh never mind. You’ll just have to do the best ya can, bud. Good luck. ;)
June 26th, 2007 at 11:28 pmIt’s humor, Merlin. Have you missed all the threads lately noting that humor has been used throughout history as a form of political expression?
Comment by upright left
Yesterday you wrote that you dislike Ann Coulter. Now you’re defending her “humor”, such as “we’ve got to get someone to put rat poison in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee,” “the only way to talk to liberals is with a baseball bat,” “if I were President, I’d deport all liberals,” etc. Oh, yes, killing Supreme Court justices and clubbing people you disagree with with a baseball bat or deporting them are just so funny.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:28 pmI noticed you disappeared from another Ann Coulter thread, after you very rudely asked me, “For example, would you deny that the majority of your statements about Christians and conservatives on this site are negative?” and I replied that I have never criticized ordinary pious Christians–only the tele-evangelicals.
It seems to me that like Ann Coulter with Elizabeth Edwards, when confronted with an argument/statement you can’t refute, you either change the topic or run away. Well, I’m going out for a while, so don’t even bother trying to quibble over fine semantics, uptight rightee, as I won’t be around to answer nor do I really care to deal with your equivocating any more.
If Mann hates east-coast liberals so much, why does she sound, dress, and make herself up like one?
June 26th, 2007 at 11:31 pmI have never read a comments section on this website before today. All I can say is, that the people here seem to have far more hate issues than the topic of the conversation.
If Ann is so bad for saying mean things about people, then you all are just as bad. It is amazing to see the vitrol that is spewed here.
Why cannot you people see that you are exactly like her?
Because she started it? That is not an excuse for this kind of behaviour.
You purport to be better, yet you are the same. Exactly the same hate, with a different “title”
Makes me sick
June 26th, 2007 at 11:32 pmHi Zooey,
June 26th, 2007 at 11:32 pmDid I tell you that my daughter lived in Oregon for 18 years near the Portland area Tigard and Gresham. Her mother lived in Boring, and my stepson near there as well. (Can’t remember the name at the moment.) I’m in LA and every time I would visit my daughter it was raining. Makes for a beautiful countryside! And the beaches are unbelievable.
Merlin, first off pleased to make your acquaintance. I’ll try to be a succinct as possible because I don’t want to steer this thread off comments any more off topic than I already have.
1.) “The truth has nothing to fear of lies”. A smarter man than either of us understood that. If that isn’t the case then I’d advise you to stop beating your fists against brick walls… that is unless you enjoy fruitless efforts.
2.)Feeding the trolls never helps. Rather than being born trolls, i think it is contageous. Drawing attention is their only objective. The best way to handle them is to either speak plainly to them or not at all. I know they make you angry but once they get you angry you start to sound very much like them. Often it’s hard to distinguish the troll from the trolled. No offense just an observation.
3.) What I meant by that was that they are not simply experts, but rather they are experts at misdirecting. I think of them as intellectual magicians. I think we agree on that.
4.)I would argue that the more things change the more they stay the same. I don’t think at any point in history we have had a more viable exchange of ideas and it may sound hokey but it is due to this thing we’re typing away on now. We have the internet and it could be a great thing if we could get past all the personal stuff. Pundits are naught more than highly paid trolls. Their only job is to invoke a response whether it is honest or not. It’s business and when your in business and when they have your attention they are successful. Ann is not a journalist, she is an entertainer. Whether you hate or love her; call her a she-beast or a saint; you are feeding the trolls. So yeah, the internet could be this great revolutionary thing. It’s unfortunate that people instead choose to waste this opportunity and merely emulate or rant against what they see on TV or hear on radio.
Apologies for the long post.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:33 pmAnne Coulter doesn’t have a skinny leg to stand on… She tries to debate by subterfuge and avoiding the issue through grade-school style personal attacks. Brilliant!
June 26th, 2007 at 11:33 pmComment by Ken — June 26, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
Are you yet another troll? Or do you just not get what blogging is all about. Care to tell me so we can rationally discuss? Your answer will reflect response.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:35 pmMerlin,
I was just making an observation regarding the blatant hypocricy by the majority of the commenters. Nothing to discuss I suppose.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:37 pmMakes me sick
Comment by Ken
Yes, Ken, people go over the top here, and thre’s STILL a big difference between us and Ann. We don’t say what we say on national television and radio. She does.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:38 pmMerlin,
Your point is moot. I could easilly argue they would if they could.
The point is, they are the same people.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:39 pmI much prefer the Media Matters style of arranging posts to the one here.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:40 pmAnn Coulter uses attack and twist- she seems unable to conduct a dialogue- which must by definition involve the acknowledgement of the other person’s thoughts and feelings. Ann Coulter appears to choose not to do that, rather, she seems to choose to belittle or denigrate personally anyone who does not agree with her. That’s a sociopath at work.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:40 pmRobay,
And the comments in here do not “seems to choose to belittle or denigrate personally anyone who does not agree with her” ???
Would you like me to cut and paste dozens of the comments I just read in here?
June 26th, 2007 at 11:41 pmMerlin,
as I understand it blogging is about sharing ideas in general. I’m not sure what I said to make you think I don’t realize this. Pretty simple concept as I see it. I’ve shared my definition of a troll with you already Merlin. By those qualifications I don’t think I am trolling. If you have different views I am interested in them.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:43 pmNone of this is civilized. Hypocrites all.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:44 pmHi Zooey,
Did I tell you that my daughter lived in Oregon for 18 years near the Portland area Tigard and Gresham. Her mother lived in Boring, and my stepson near there as well. (Can’t remember the name at the moment.) I’m in LA and every time I would visit my daughter it was raining. Makes for a beautiful countryside! And the beaches are unbelievable.
Comment by Merlin
Hi Merlin,
You didn’t tell me about that. Oregon is a great and beautiful state. I lived in Salem between 1989 & 1993. Then I left my marriage and moved to Idaho. My eldest son lives in Portland, and works in Gresham. I always thought “Boring” was a great name for a town. Guaranteed small town living!
I was so lucky on my recent trip, it was only overcast for half of my stay! I got some great pictures of the Gorge. The coast is amazing. I just love the northwest!
How do you like living in LA? I was born in the desert down there, but never lived in the southern part of the state very long, and that was when I was very young. I started kindergarten in Coronado.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:46 pmNone of this is civilized. Hypocrites all.
Comment by Ken
Maybe you’d be happier elsewhere, Ken. I’d hate to think we’re distressing you.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:48 pmThe only thing Ann Coulter adds to the political arena are clever new ways to insult people. I’ve never once (and likely, never will) read anything by her that wasn’t a complete hit piece.
No new information is conveyed in her articles, no new ideas put forth; merely a McCarthy-esque brandishing of everything to the left of her as worthy of derision. (Which is appropriate, as she wrote an entire book defending Joe as a hero.)
Which, I suppose, is why the right loves her so much.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:49 pmWhen so many of their positions are hypocritical and/or indefensible, having a wordsmith like her or Frank Luntz on your side might help you hold on to power just a little bit longer.
Zooey,
I am not distressed. Are you asking me to leave?
June 26th, 2007 at 11:49 pm#261 Comment by Ken — June 26, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
Merlin,
I was just making an observation regarding the blatant hypocricy by the majority of the commenters. Nothing to discuss I suppose.
No troll! thank you. Sometimes it is hard to tell.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 26, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
This comment reflects how many of us here feel. He is right on about the difference. Keep in mind that this blog serves many uses. One of them is to express anger and frustration, sort of publicly, at the tragedy that we see every day we wake up. Yes, there is hypocracy. And no, it is never pretty. But that sometimes happens when you fight emotionally.
The other thing that you should note, is that our anger is expressed toward phonies, liars and people in power positions that are contributing to, or enabling that tragedy to continue.
And regarding trolls, they come here, not to discuss, but to disrupt the thread, and anger people with their provocative remarks. As I said in another post, they provoke, we smash them back. Each of us in our own way. Fair is fair.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:54 pmComment by Lora — June 26, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Lora, Lora, Lora are you really Merlin? Can two people actually make the same mistakes so often in such a short period of time? I’m seriously beginning to think you are deliberately twisting what I say. I know, I know! It seems a very harsh accusation and it pains me terribly to say it. Now Lora, the humor I was speaking about was the JOHN EDWARDS VIDEO “I FEEL PRETTY.” I even mentioned that in my post to Merlin. Pardon the caps, but I want to make this crystal clear so yA won’t accuse me of running away again (Personally, I require sleep. I ran away to bed sometime after 2:00am.) I DID NOT DEFEND ANYTHING COULTER SAID AS HUMOR. I SAID SHE IS A VERY HATEFUL PERSON WHO REDUCES HER OWN EFFECTIVENESS WITH HER ATTACKS. Better now? ;)
June 26th, 2007 at 11:55 pmMerlin,
You are just like her. You admit it “fair is fair”.
You claim that your ideas lay sole claim to “emotional arguments”, what about people that disagree with you?
Calling me names is your M.O. Why not just admit you are just like her?
Be honest with yourself, and me??
June 26th, 2007 at 11:56 pmI find it funny that people can attack ann for the things she says but feel that others are justified for the things they say about our president and his cabinet.
Ann is just a political opinion, just like that queer Bill Maher and that idiot John Stewart. She is just more upfront about it, she’s not smug like those pansy liberal opinionators are.
It all comes down to one thing.
dems and liberals are lying hypocritical pussies. They say all manner of things about conservatives and then lie about why they said when it comes back to haunt them in the media. or better yet they never seem to recall.
What this country needs is a new Civil War: Liberals vs Conservatives
Just remember: Libs dont believe in guns so they can’t use them. Besides, you wouldn’t have an army because you’d all be too busy protesting. Lol
June 27th, 2007 at 12:00 amZooey,
I am not distressed. Are you asking me to leave?
Comment by Ken
Not at all. Everyone is welcome on TP.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:00 amWow, a future FIRST LADY who can STAND UP to Ann Coulter!
Elizabeth Edwards ROCKS!!!
The Edwards camp is winning me over.
One of the biggest reasons is THEY ARE ELECTABLE.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:01 amWhy does this hateful bitch even get airtime?. She lives in a world of non-facts and smears. I guess that would be the pinup girl for the republican party. That’s what they’re all about.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:02 amJust remember: Libs dont believe in guns so they can’t use them. Besides, you wouldn’t have an army because you’d all be too busy protesting. Lol
Comment by Matt
Don’t be ridiculous. I’m an excellent shot.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:04 amAnd the comments in here do not “seems to choose to belittle or denigrate personally anyone who does not agree with her†???
Would you like me to cut and paste dozens of the comments I just read in here?
Comment by Ken
Gee Ken, I understand you’re new around here, but if you find it so distasteful, why don’t you check out some Republican sites. I’m sure they feel Ms. Coulter’s behavior is justified. Would you then attack them for supporting her heinous behavior? I don’t think so. Also, Ms. Coulter has a myspace page, maybe you should go lecture her on her behavior.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:06 amThe most worrisome thing about this whole sorry circus on Hardball tonight is that small collection of 30 or so maladjusted wallet-sniffers hanging on the hem on Coulter’s garment. And a smelly hem it must be. I’ve never seen her in anything but that black cocktail number.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:06 amI wonder if MSNBC had to pay all the travel expenses for that little salivating entourage holding up the posters and those (ICK) pictures of her/him/it.
The Republican youth. A veritable who’s who of neoBabbitts.
Merlin,
Free speech is everything. Without it, we are doomed.
What strikes me as hypocritical, is that you feel your position ALLOWS your anger, and Ann’s does not.
She has the same right to be pissed as you do.
I am not against ranting, or anger, both happen. I am just pointing out your hypocrisy on the subject.
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Shane, I am not bothered by the anger. I am not a party person, I know well enough that politics is temporary, it will change as the years go by.
My concern is not the “side” of the argument, that is irrelevant. It is the 250+ HATE speech posts I read condemming someone elses “hate speech”
Ironic does not come close to covering it
June 27th, 2007 at 12:11 am#275 Comment by Ken — June 26, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
Calling me names is your M.O.
Please show me that. I said you were not a troll in my last post. What names did I call you? Perhaps you misread my post?
I must say, your post #275 is very familiar. Hmmm
June 27th, 2007 at 12:11 amCalling me names is your M.O. Why not just admit you are just like her?
Be honest with yourself, and me??
Comment by Ken
Ken, meet Matt, post #276. Why don’t you talk to him about hate speak?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:12 amDon’t be ridiculous. I’m an excellent shot.
Comment by Zooey
Wow, a lib that uses guns. I’m impressed.
You should get the word out that guns are used more than twice as much to protect than murder.
But then, that whole liberal media thing wont allow it. So then youve got peopke who have never even touched a real gun, thinking all guns are bad.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:12 amMerlin,
“#261 Comment by Ken — June 26, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
Merlin,
I was just making an observation regarding the blatant hypocricy by the majority of the commenters. Nothing to discuss I suppose.
No troll! thank you. Sometimes it is hard to tell.
“
June 27th, 2007 at 12:14 amMy concern is not the “side†of the argument, that is irrelevant. It is the 250+ HATE speech posts I read condemming someone elses “hate speechâ€
Ironic does not come close to covering it
Comment by Ken
Gee Ken, the last thing I need to read is more “concern troll” crap. Who exactly do you think you’re fooling? Are you getting paid to troll or are you just a neocon stooge who thinks you can “convert” people here to your way of thinking. Either way, it’s been done many times, and way better than you’re doing. Stick around as long as you want, but your whining is annoying. I’m sure even Ms. Coulter would agree.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:16 amIf they can boot Imus off the air, why can’t they do the same with Coulter?
Don’t worry. Watch
ANN COULTER BLOWS LINES AND FLUSHES REPUTATION
http://tootruthy.blogspot.com/2007/03/ann-coulter-blows-lines-and-flushes.html
June 27th, 2007 at 12:16 amKen, meet Matt, post #276. Why don’t you talk to him about hate speak?
Comment by shane
Nice to meet you Ken. You don’t need to lecture me on hate speech. Its just an opinion thats stronger than most of the libs brains. They can’t seem to comprehend Matter-Of-Facts. They associate opinions with hate.
My opinions do not mean I hate someone, its just what I think of them.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:16 amYou should get the word out that guns are used more than twice as much to protect than murder.
But then, that whole liberal media thing wont allow it. So then youve got peopke who have never even touched a real gun, thinking all guns are bad.
Comment by Matt
What a crock of shit. Most people shot in home invasions are shot with their own guns. Google it asswipe.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:18 amYou should get the word out that guns are used more than twice as much to protect than murder.
Comment by Matt — June 27, 2007 @ 12:12 am
No, I think I’ll mind my own business. Thanks.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:19 amShane,
Indeed, calling for a civil war is over the top isn’t it?
That’s the point, so little “progress” is done is this environment, unless raising ones blood pressure by yelling about “the other side” is progress?
Here is my take, since I am participating in this post now.
I read Ann’s column maybe monthly. Why? Because she is sometimes very funny. I complete agree that she is mean spirited, poke in the eye confrontationalist, be at least she is honest about it.
I also read DemocracyNOW and The Nation. So don’t try calling me a partisan name, it will only show me, more of the you, you are trying to hide in the first place.
My whole point in even taking the time to post, was the hypocrisy.
That’s all.
You either see it, or you do not.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:19 amAhh primaries, the era of the reverse Sistah Souljah moments. When the Republicans get their reactionary freak on — yes, tell us all about the South Carolina battleflag, and pretend to be Pro-Life — and its like the Democrats are speaking directly to me. And so you get theatrical moments like this — the Edwardses picking fights with Ann Coulter (or allowing her to pick one with them) to prove that they’re the ones she hates most.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:20 amI know, I know, there’s no substance there, and it won’t last, but for 18 short sweet months of the cycle, it almost seems like the bad-guys will make themselves unelectable, and the good guys will be worth electing.
*Sniff*
If they can boot Imus off the air, why can’t they do the same with Coulter?
Thats an Easy one, one that white people are too scared to say.
Anne hasn’t crossed the Politically Incorrect line that Imus supposedly did.
Remember people Political Correctness was invented to 2 reasons. Queers and Black People.
You can say anything you want in the media until you mention anything about either of those two groups.
Why do you think white people “pretend” to bend over backwards for them. Yes, its pretty much just white people.
Most other races don’t give a Shizzle, and aren’t as targeted. Its a system white people set up and it works against them. Pussies
June 27th, 2007 at 12:21 amGee Ken, still waiting for you to address Matt.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:21 amShane,
Did I not already agree with you regarding Matt?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:25 amKen, Ken *crickets chirping* Ken? You didn’t address Matt you replied to me. And anybody who goes out of his way to read Ann Coulter and thinks she’s funny is hard for many of us to stomach. You showed us what you are, you’re not fooling anybody.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:26 amWhat a crock of shit. Most people shot in home invasions are shot with their own guns. Google it asswipe
Comment by shane
Nice one, Genius, We all know that the internet is the pinnacle of truth. All we have to do is google it and the Truth be known.
Wow, were you born like this, or are you just practicing right now.
I can’t believe you were the fastest sperm.
First off, that is not true, at least not in Texas, where, thank God there are still some Men left in this world.
Secondly, the numbers that show it are not easily attainable. Try Reading “10 Things You Can’t Say in America” By Larry Elder.
He is probably one of the smartest (Black) Gentleman, and political commentator in America today. And Dear Lord, he’s in California.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:27 amDid I not already agree with you regarding Matt?
Comment by Ken
NOPE
June 27th, 2007 at 12:27 amShane,
The first sentence of post #293 agrees that Matt is over the top. I phrase I borrow from…you.
Yes, Ann can be very funny in her writing style, as can a lot of entertainers.
It appears the difference between us, is simply blind hate. I can appreciate humor in many forms. Jon Stewarts humor is second to none, though I disagree with most of his personal opinions.
Hate is bad for your blood pressure and your internal hapiness. You should probably take yourself a little bit less serious and enjoy life a bit more.
Or not.
Would me typing to Matt directly help fill a void you are having?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:31 amThat’s cool, shane.
Matt says you’re the fastest sperm, which I’m pretty sure is a first, and another troll called me a murderer, another first!!
Today was a good day….
June 27th, 2007 at 12:31 amComment by upright left — June 26, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
Comment by Lora — June 26, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Lora, Lora, Lora are you really Merlin? Can two people actually make the same mistakes so often in such a short period of time? I’m seriously beginning to think you are deliberately twisting what I say. I know, I know! It seems a very harsh accusation and it pains me terribly to say it. Now Lora, the humor I was speaking about was the JOHN EDWARDS VIDEO “I FEEL PRETTY.†I even mentioned that in my post to Merlin. Pardon the caps, but I want to make this crystal clear so yA won’t accuse me of running away again (Personally, I require sleep. I ran away to bed sometime after 2:00am.) I DID NOT DEFEND ANYTHING COULTER SAID AS HUMOR. I SAID SHE IS A VERY HATEFUL PERSON WHO REDUCES HER OWN EFFECTIVENESS WITH HER ATTACKS. Better now? ;)
Me the same as Lora? Thank you for the compliment! But no, I have no interest in creating another user name. And you really know that don’t you? wink, wink.
Gotta give you credit though, you are sharp!
You chided:
I’m seriously beginning to think you are deliberately twisting what I say.
Of course one might say you are purposely not being clear, as well. Eh?
Sigh… I will be serious on this point.
Back in 2000 BushCo attempted ruined Gore’s reputation with remarks spread through the MSM like the one about him creating the internet. He never said he did. There were quite a few others as well. I can still see the smirking pundits making “fun” of him nightly. This technique is part of BushCo’s Standard Operating Procedure. The vicious attacks on Max Cleland in ‘92 and the Swiftboating of Kerry in ‘94. All faces of the same strategy. (Should I mention that McCain was treated to the same smearing in 2000?)
No, as cute as this appears, it is not humor. It is a neocon talking point to destroy Edwards by making him seem effete. The “french connection” dressed in new clothes.
Now, were this done as real stand up comedy, with no political agenda in mind, like tearing down the opposition, your thought would have merit.
Serious off.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:32 amWell Ladies, this has been fun. But I’m retiring to my hatefull bedroom here in my hatefull state, which will help me have wonderfully hatefull dreams.
Helps reassure me when I vote for President Next Year. Too bad we can’t have Dubya in 08`
Make sure you vote this time hippies.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:32 amShane,
You have to admit, Matts sign off post is funny?
I guess I cannot directly address him now, I apologize for not performing to your expectations.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:34 amShane,
Do you like Jon Stewart?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:38 amNo, I think I’ll mind my own business. Thanks.
Comment by Zooey — June 27, 2007 @ 12:19 am
A gold star to everyone for leaving this alone! ;)
June 27th, 2007 at 12:39 amBefore I go, I will say this,
Remember, these days, the truth behind any issue gets so distorted and lost so quickly under a pile of lies and opinions that its almost impossible to tell what is real and what is not.
As long as our government can keep its people fighting and arguing over trifles, then we will be blind to the agenda that is happening just below the surface and right under our noses.
The more we divide, the more power we give our government and the governments of the world to weild and abuse power.
When this power becomes more absolute, it will become absolutely corrupt.
The only way we can achieve true freedom is to see Right as Right and Wrong as Wrong without excuse and in unity.
Until then our choices and freedoms are merely illusions given to us by those who truely have the power to change things.
Remember, few can rule many through fear and division. This is also a means to divide and conquer.
G’nite all
June 27th, 2007 at 12:39 amA gold star to everyone for leaving this alone! ;)
Comment by upright left
But none for you, bonehead.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:41 amUpright,
Leaving what alone?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:42 am#305 Comment by Ken — June 27, 2007 @ 12:34 am
You have to admit, Matts sign off post is funny?
For a troll, it is funny. A rare treat, as the trolls on here have virtually no humor in them.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:42 amMatt (You shame the name.)
Yeah, let them fight it out…the Lib Feminazis will kill most of you with your own ‘gun’ and those of you that are left will shoot each other. (see DICK Cheney.)
Then the real conservatives will be left to put the US back to it’s roots. (To the days before Corporations have more rights than moneyless individuals. See todays Supreme Court cases.)
I find it ironic your kind likes being called neo-cons.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:44 amIn 2 years the phrase will be defined as ‘new convict’
Am I a troll?
If so, what constitutes a troll ?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:45 amLeaving what alone?
Comment by Ken
upright left doesn’t approve of me, Ken.
Naturally, I’m devastated.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:46 amNow, were this done as real stand up comedy, with no political agenda in mind, like tearing down the opposition, your thought would have merit.
Serious off.
Comment by Merlin — June 27, 2007 @ 12:32 am
So you must also oppose Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Letterman, etc. Please, please don’t come back and say they have no political agenda in mind, like tearing down the opposition. Edwards paid 400.00 for haircut. There is no way on God’s green earth you can say that video was undeserved. It was funny and you know it.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:49 amMerlin,
There is no such thing as no political agenda. What planet do you live on?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:51 amI find it ironic your kind likes being called neo-cons.
In 2 years the phrase will be defined as ‘new convict’
Comment by The Real Matt
Wow, real matt, you really didn’t get what he was saying there in his last statement did you.
I just found this post, but it sounded like he was saying that we as Americans need to put differences aside and realize the wrongs that are being put out as rights.
Not to fight each other, but to come together to fight coporate run governments.
He’s got some *ahem* “intresting” and strong opinions, but that last one came out of nowhere.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:52 amElizabeth Edwards for President: 2008!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:52 am#313 Comment by Ken — June 27, 2007 @ 12:45 am
Am I a troll?
If so, what constitutes a troll ?
Troll definition:
From Wiki:
In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding.[1] They may also plant images and data on networks that others may find disturbing (usually indirectly relating to the individual in person) in order to cause confrontation.
If you fall into the definition you are. If not, no.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:57 amIf left up to me to decide, I say no.
I love to conversate with people, and do not consider myself posting derogatory and inflammatory remarks.
But either way, I would like my last post to go into the “troll posts” anyway, it is indeed funny, and we all need to laugh as much as possible.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:59 amUpright,
Leaving what alone?
Comment by Ken — June 27, 2007 @ 12:42 am
The “No thanks, I’ll mind my own business,” comment.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:00 amOf course, it wasn’t made to me and I shouldn’t have even said anything. It was so very wrong. I should have just let it go, but it was just so dang tempting! ;)
It is 12:57 p.m. here in Jasper Georgia, and admittedly, I have a lot of work to do tomorrow.
I just moved here in January from Colorado and am still aclimating to this HUMIDITY and time change.
Thank you all for sharing your thoughts with me and taking the time to reply.
Have a wonderful day tomorrow and try to think of something funny to keep in your head all day :)
It will make you live longer.
God’s Grace be with you all, goodnight!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:02 amBravo to Elizabeth Edwards and I hope the skank Coulter wet HIS panties.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:03 amHis last 2 comments came in while I was writing.
His initial comments make me cringe.
I agree with the fact we being divided and conquered, but find his comment belated.
I would still pay to see a real neo-con/leftist fight to the death.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:04 amMost neo’s haven’t spent any real time in the armed forces (See the entire republican leadership.) and the leftist types have seen the streets.
Comment by Ken — June 27, 2007 @ 12:51 am
Merlin,
There is no such thing as no political agenda.
You are playing with semantics here Ken and you know it. If I tease you about your haircut there is no political agenda involved.
What planet do you live on?
Earth, last time I looked. So what are you implying? So, tell me, is this a real question or is it something else? Like a remark to poke or inflame? Or is this just more of this humor that “upright left” is talking about?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:04 amMerlin,
Dang it, I have to go!! Humor my friend. I chose not to insult others purposefully.
We are brothers.
Period.
Maybe I can come back soon? Have a great tomorrow!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:05 amIt’s so odd you can’t tell Annie what you think about her opinions. There is no link to e-mail her. I wonder why? Naw, i don’t really wonder. I know why. Annie is but another plant by the Bushnits to distract us from the truth.
Does anyone else notice the way Annie constantly brushes her hair back to show her face like so many amateur porn stars do while giving head? Does anyone think there may be films of Annie giving head? Does anyone think ther may be movies of Annie giving head as a man before her sex change?
Honest to God, I’ve never seen a woman with as pronounced adam’s apple (a male trait), as Annie. I wondering if Annie has a bigger unit than me. Ok, ok, she probably does. Damn I hate how fast news travels!
Peace, and most of all LOVE!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:08 amPJ
Good night from LA Ken
June 27th, 2007 at 1:08 amHere Matt, it took me about 5 seconds to find
“public health research demonstrates that the person most likely to shoot you or a family member with a gun already has the keys to your house. Simply put: guns kept in the home for self-protection are more often used to kill somebody you know than to kill in self-defense; 22 times more likely, according to a 1998 study by the Journal of Trauma.[1] More kids, teenagers and adult family members are dying from firearms in their own home than criminal intruders. When someone is home, a gun is used for protection in fewer than two percent of home invasion crimes.[2] You may be surprised to know that, in 1999, according to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, there were only 154 justifiable homicides committed by private citizens with a firearm compared with a total of 8,259 firearm murders in the United States”
June 27th, 2007 at 1:11 amMatt says you’re the fastest sperm, which I’m pretty sure is a first, and another troll called me a murderer, another first!!
Today was a good day….
Comment by Zooey
See, we’re learning new things about ourselves every day.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:13 am“… In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding…”
Every topic on TP must be sensitive since every opposing post draws the troll label. From now on, I expect we won’t see the troll label for posts that simply oppose the liberal position. Posts must be derogatory or inflammatory. Let us all remember and adhere to that! ;)
June 27th, 2007 at 1:15 amSee, we’re learning new things about ourselves every day.
Comment by shane
It’s good to learn something everyday. :)
Goodnight all!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:16 am#315 Comment by upright left — June 27, 2007 @ 12:49 am
So you must also oppose Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Letterman, etc. Please, please don’t come back and say they have no political agenda in mind, like tearing down the opposition.
Sorry, I will. Good comedy for comedy sake can be an equal opportunity employer. What ever opening the comedian finds he uses it. He lambastes both sides. That is not having a political agenda. I no longer watch TV (probably 20 years now) only watching when it is important to me.
Edwards paid 400.00 for haircut. There is no way on God’s green earth you can say that video was undeserved. It was funny and you know it.
Actually, I don’t know it. First of all you assume that I am talking about the video not being funny. I’m not. I did not see the video. I just see how it is being used. And that is what I’m talking about.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:24 amComment by upright left — June 27, 2007 @ 1:15 am
You expect a lot my friend. You have no doubt noted I usually ask unless I know from experience, or it is blatent.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:29 amComment by Merlin — June 27, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Ok, Merlin, now I have it. In your opinion, Stewart and Colbert are “good comedy for comedy sake” and “have no political agenda.” (Whoa! It hurt me just to type that. All you other people stop laughing immediately!) And those using the Edwards’ “I’m so Pretty” video, which you have not seen, are using it purely for political purposes, not because it’s funny. Dang! Some kind of Bizarro World thing going on here. ;)
June 27th, 2007 at 1:58 amIt’s taken me a while to get through all the posts, many of which have little to do with the content of the interview and now most of you have gone to sleep. So while you are sleeping, here’ s little dream for you… Ann Coulter in a remake of Jaws playing the part of the sexy skinny dipper out for a midnight swim in the ocean. Suddenly, she inexplicably starts spinning around like a cherry pit in a washing machine and then fwhump… she’s gone.
I’m relieved that someone said something to Coulter and so patiently, given the emotion that drives Edwards to bite back.
The pundits are driving politics mad. Empty, empty, bookselling whores – all of them. Ah – but the do make some of us progressives look quite centrist.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:12 amComment by upright left — June 27, 2007 @ 1:58 am
Ok, you win. You are just not interested in serious communication no matter which side you are on.
Serious off.
Boo Hoo. Your conclusions are designed to bother me. Sigh…
Talking to himself Merlin says:
Damn, wrong again, Merlin. You should know better than to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I know, I know, when people are sharp its often hard to tell. Especially when you don’t want them to be that way. Goodness! I hope this doesn’t become known by my fellow wizzards at the WWWA (World Wide Wizzard Assembly) coming up soon. My reputatation could be ruined. That would be a bummer. But wait, all will be well. The crystal ball says so.
Good night upright left.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:20 amAnd those using the Edwards’ “I’m so Pretty†video, which you have not seen, are using it purely for political purposes, not because it’s funny. Dang! Some kind of Bizarro World thing going on here. ;) Comment by upright left — June 27, 2007 @ 1:58 am
Your veiled homophobia in this attack at Edwards isn’t *funny*, any more than Ann C*nter’s overt homophobia is. What’s funny is all of the cheney hunting jokes. Why? Because he shot a guy in the face. Edwards fixed his hair for a television appearance – there’s no way anyone else does that? But shoot a guy in the face – that happens every day!
See, that was humor, aimed at your st*pidity. It was funny – you aren’t – psycho b!tch.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:21 amWhat an unfortunate, sad human being Coulter is. You gotta wonder what screwed her up so badly. And what grace on Edward’s part. It’s fascinating that the extreme right is held to no standard whatsoever by the MSM- the more hateful, the better – and the left holds itself to the highest standards of dignity. In a nutshell, that’s what this ‘interview’ is all about.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:23 amEvery topic on TP must be sensitive since every opposing post draws the troll label. From now on, I expect we won’t see the troll label for posts that simply oppose the liberal position. Posts must be derogatory or inflammatory. Let us all remember and adhere to that! ;) Comment by upright left — June 27, 2007 @ 1:15 am
By *every*, you mean every one of yours? Because I’ve seen opposing posts that didn’t receive derision. Unfortunately the number of wingnuts capable of producing a post that isn’t troll droppings is so small, it only seems like *every* post receives the troll label. Then again, most of what you f*ckers post *is* troll droppings. Idiot.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:23 amThat thing she does with her hair.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:33 amLook, she (coulter) is a flamethrower. She gets too much face time . Tweety is an an hour long contributer.
I think he felt like he should stand in front of a fire hose after this shameful hour. She Goebbelized him with that Saddam was in cahoots with osama stuff…she trampled tweety big time and remained unchallanged. No wonder 41% of the pollable pinheads think Saddam was in on 9/11.
It is so pathetic
June 27th, 2007 at 2:40 amShe’s a rotten egg.
A bad seed.
She has a way of schmoozing a certain type of guy (Bill Maher is a friend of hers, at least they claim that), so they deal with her. They shouldn’t though. She represents a slimey side of our country.
Profiteers.
Its one thing to work for the Government or Defense Dept. If you provide a valuable service at a standard rate of compensation, then you are not profiteering.
But if you make millions off of just insulting one party (and thats all her books do ulitmately, insult, they don’t talk about republican virtues much, they only attack the left), and insulting those who have lost family members in this war and in 911, then you are of the most foul individuals we can offer.
Imagine the hubris it took for this war profiteer to accuse the 911 widows of profiting from their husbands deaths.
She’s a sick, twisted individual and an enemy to all that is decent, and good in this country.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:46 amShe is selling the war in Iraq, while reaping in the profits.
She is scum.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:47 amAnnthrax Coulter represents the republican party in America.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:08 amShe is one of the main spokespeople for the republicans. We
have never witnessed 1 republican condemn her rhetoric, so
that fact makes it more then clear, that members of the republican
party condone her . Just think, a party of hateful reactionary
rabble. And Chris Matthews is a bottom feeder for giving the
malignant creature airtime. Only a like minded bully would find
her at all amusing. And we know from the Polls, at least 25%
of the voters out there think she is acceptable in the political
discourse. A true assassin of the Republic.
if that wasn’t the most telling political “discourse” i’ve seen in my entire life, then i don’t know what was (or is)……
June 27th, 2007 at 3:18 amit there ever was a reason to disown a sperm donor then perhaps the Cuntergiest should find hers and ask for a refund, Obviously the deposit was way to much even for her standards, or at least find the fly who actually made the internal deposit, and put it out of its misery.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:01 amhis skank is so thin that you’d think she would be a handy dandy toothpick for an elephant that had consumed to many low hanging twigs oH wait there isn’t any difference is there, that explains her odious origins, the local elephant dungery, as in expansive out house, for the less enlightened the great outdoors, she somehow found the wither all to disengage herself from the heap and make herself into the vassal of sheit she is.
Free speech is one of the most important aspects of our society.
But even that has its limits. To trivialize the death of another’s child, even so far as to suggest that they were capitalizing on it, is remarkably insensitive.
This is different from people in this forum calling Coulter a huge asshat. If you don’t understand the difference, you are too far gone to have it explained.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:26 amYour transcript is wrong. In this part, Elizabeth Edwards is not speaking with Ann; Chris Matthews is.
C: Um, I don’t know, read the sentence.
E: I read the whole sentence. I couldn’t feel the context.>
C: Well you have to give it to me and I could explain.
E: Why do you make fun of Hillary’s chubby legs? >
June 27th, 2007 at 4:55 amthe problem is not coulter. the problem is chris matthews and the TV people who feel they need some one who divides on their show. governing is about compromise not dividing. matthews is not about finding solutions, he is about sturring things up. it’s no wonder young folks are disillusions about their future. i’ve watched my last “hardball”
June 27th, 2007 at 7:00 amsay “good-bye” chris…
So Coulter is brimful of hate AND crazy too! She needs a strait jacket and a rubber room. But she’ll be on the air as long as anyone can profit from it.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:33 amLora, Lora, Lora are you really Merlin? Can two people actually make the same mistakes so often in such a short period of time? I’m seriously beginning to think you are deliberately twisting what I say. I know, I know! It seems a very harsh accusation and it pains me terribly to say it. Now Lora, the humor I was speaking about was the JOHN EDWARDS VIDEO “I FEEL PRETTY.†I even mentioned that in my post to Merlin.
Comment by uptight right
Your explanation to Merlin overlapped in time with my post, which you can discern by looking at the times for both. And, no, I am not Merlin nor do I think I have ever met Merlin. I gather he’s living in LA, which is my hometown, but I haven’t been there since Dumbya was anointed president.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:35 amPoor you, having to deal with harsh accusations, but you think it’s all right to tell me that Rosie is my spokeswoman and that I criticize Christians.
As for humor, the “I Feel Pretty” thing with Edwards might have been a wee bit amusing prior to Ann-thrax’s unfounded accusation of him as a “fag.” Post-Ann slander, it is no longer amusing.
As far as political humor goes, it might surprise you to learn that among my liberals/progressive friends, we sometimes exchange jokes not only about Republicans and the Christian right but also about Clinton (whose character does lend itself to joking) and other Dems
Chris Matthews is partial to felons and hate-spewing liars. Several years ago, he kicked off Hardball on CNBC with G. Gordon Liddy as his guest (that version of Hardball FAILED).
Matthews has had indicted felon Tom Delay on his show several times since DeLay was indicted, and he gave Coulter an hour of time to lie and to spread hate.
I wrote MSNBC to ask that they remove Chris Matthews from the air. You can do it, too: viewerservices@msnbc.com. Chris Matthews’ email address is: hardball@msnbc.com (in case you want to put him on the “Cc:” line, as I did.
BTW, those who defend Coulter are in such a tiny minority that the percentage, and the actual numbers from the MSNBC TV poll, make the pitiful minorities who support the current corrupt, criminal president and his president in charge of Vice look like a huge MAJORITIES! The current tally is Edwards 93.8%, Coulter 6.2% out of 13,140 votes. Free mental health check-ups should be given to the 815 poor souls who voted FOR her.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:57 amAre there ever anything but personal attacks from you people?
This guy wants to be president but his wife has to call in to fight his battles. If Laura Bush called a show to say top picking on George you moon-bats would have a field day.
Oh, that’s right. You people don’t look at both sides – ROTFL
June 27th, 2007 at 8:02 am# 354 – Comment by Happy Guy — June 27, 2007 @ 8:02 am
“Are there ever anything but personal attacks from you people?”
YOU PEOPLE, “Un-Happy Guy”? “You people” is the kind of phrase the crazy, nazi lady, Coulter, would say. Are you one of the 6.2% who support her?
Nasty, evil Troll: UNDER THE BRIDGE!!!!!!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 8:08 amThis guy wants to be president but his wife has to call in to fight his battles. If Laura Bush called a show to say top picking on George you moon-bats would have a field day.
Oh, that’s right. You people don’t look at both sides – ROTFL
Comment by Crappy Guy
Both Laura Bush and Lynne Cheney have defended their husbands on TV and other public forums. Oh, that’s right. Rightwing trolls never look up the facts and never let them get in the way of their spin.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:16 amGood for Ann Coulter! She doesn’t have to be “nice” No one is nice about Bush, and when was the last time The First Lady told someone to be nice to her husband? This sounds like an attempt to put Edward’s name back in the news again. When Ann points out character flaws about Edwards, they aren’t to be personal, they are meant to educate numbskulls into thinking about what kind of person Edwards really is. He’s a trial lawyer, and someone directly responsible for the high cost of malpractice insurance all doctors must pass on to us when we are sick. If Edwards were savvy enough he would be able to hide his evil nature as well as Hillary can. I’m very sorry Mrs. Edwards’ son died, I’m very sorry Mrs. Edwards has cancer, but this is still a free country, and Ann Coulter can say anything she likes. I am very glad that Ann Coulter doesn’t do the stupid thing like come out with an apology, and counseling sessions only to be blasted anyway. Progressives hate Ann Coulter because she is who she is, if Ann said mean things about a conservative, she’d be invited to more parties and the press would love her.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:22 am#354 – “Oh, that’s right. You people don’t look at both sides – ROTFL” Comment by Happy Guy — June 27, 2007 @ 8:02 am
Unlike you, who looks fairly on every side no matter who they . . . . Urk.
I just threw up a little in my mouth. . . . .
My pardon, I just cannot lie like Ann Coulter does on a regular basis. It makes me physically ill to attempt to act like the ultra-radical right-wing bloviators.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:31 amThe Republican Trial Layer Caucus
http://www.atla.org/ActivistCenter/Tier3/RTLC.aspx
Just when you think Republi-trolls have a lock on a talking point. . . .
June 27th, 2007 at 8:40 amAnn Coulter is always nervous. That’s her false pride talking. Anyone with two eyes can see that.
~Sean
June 27th, 2007 at 8:48 amWhy doesn’t this person marry Michael Weiner-Savage? They are a perfect match.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:56 amwiener
June 27th, 2007 at 9:00 amA personal attack, in strictly logical terms, is an insult thrown at a person or group in order to detract from the argument at hand, whatever that is. It is irrelevant to the issue under discussion. However, a relevant assessment of someone’s character is not, strictly speaking, a personal attack. For example, calling Edwards a “fag” or “pretty boy” is not relevant to his policy positions. However, if he is a hypocrite, as many allege, then such an assessment is relevant to his character and ability to lead.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:01 ami have a burning question: why does Matthews (and GMA, CNN, et al) continue to have Coulter on considering how she lies so openly and blatantly about what she’s said in the oh-so-recent past let alone about anything and everything?
June 27th, 2007 at 9:16 amAnn Coulter is a real PIG!
The horrible thing about her is that her fortune grows with every person she transforms into an Ann Coulter hater.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:16 amThis guy wants to be president but his wife has to call in to fight his battles. If Laura Bush called a show to say top picking on George you moon-bats would have a field day.
Comment by Happy Guy
The biggest difference I see between Elizabeth Edwards and Laura Bush is that Elizabeth has established herself as her own woman. I doubt seriously she takes orders from her husband or her husband’s handlers. And when she is outraged personally, she will speak up. To suggest that “his wife has to call in to fight his battles” is to suggest that Elizabeth doesn’t have a mind or a voice of her own, and nothing could be further from the truth. Elizabeth even claimed at the beginning of the exchange that this was HER call — as a wife and a mother, not as an agent or a respresentative.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:30 amDidn’t your leftie HBO commentator say he wished Cheney would be killed be terrorists? Seems like Ann was just responding to that suggestion with her own. While both are way out of line, that type of snuff message really attracts ratings. Anna is just as disgusting as Bill Mahr and the rest of the commy left TV talkers.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:32 am#367 – “Didn’t your leftie HBO commentator say he wished Cheney would be killed be terrorists?” Comment by Roger_Roger — June 27, 2007 @ 9:32 am
I guess the real difference is that the so-called “leftie commentators” make these type of comments occasionally.
Ann Coulter does nothing but make these type of comments.
When you do something 100% of the time, it cannot be disguised by the false appelation “joke” or “occasional comment”. It then becomes Modus Operandi. Ann Coulter knows that her lies are what keeps her getting paid. It’s a sad state of affairs that the right-of-center folk continually support her extremist lies and ultra-rabid calumny.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:37 amThere are 2 posts on the front page of TP quoting this same statement and over 700 comments about it.
Not one person has indicated they know she was referring to Bill Maher’s remarks about Cheney being assassinated.
Hey that taking comments out of context is really paying off isn’t it TP.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:53 amDid you notice how Coulter constantly interrupted Edwards, trying to twist her words even as she was saying them (”You want me to stop talking, you want me to stop writing ‘books’”), but the minute she got the floor she had a little hissy fit about Mathews interrupting her? I’m glad Edwards managed to say audibly a couple of times that Coulter’s style of “debate” debases American politics. It’s what a lot of us have been trying to say for awhile, but Annie’s fans accuse us of merely being envious of her great beauty.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:58 amDemocrat Soldier @ 9:37 am — Cons do this false-equivalency crap all the time. Remember how they took that racist libertarian Colorado college professor no one had ever heard of and pretended he was some sort of guru for all lefties? They do this to deflect the earned criticism they get for their own prominent mouthpieces like Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, Joe Scarborough, Michael “Savage” Weiner, Hugh Hewitt, and a host of other people who if not for the backing of well-funded wingnut welfare institutions such as Olin and Scaife would be flipping burgers instead of polluting our airwaves.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:59 amNot one person has indicated they know she was referring to Bill Maher’s remarks about Cheney being assassinated.
Hey that taking comments out of context is really paying off isn’t it TP.
Comment by Kilo —
And just why should Elizabeth and John Edwards bear the brunt of Bill Maher said about Cheney? Maher isn’t even known to be an Edwards supporter. Also, didn’t Ann-thrax’s “joke” about putting rat poison into Justice Stevens’ creme brulee long precede Maher’s remarks?
June 27th, 2007 at 10:25 amI recently figured out why you’re called kilo. That’s to say, because you’re about as bright as a kilowatt.
Ps. Kilo and Roger_Roger,
June 27th, 2007 at 10:44 amNot only did Ann-thrax’s “joke” about putting rat poison in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee precede Bill Maher’s quip but her publicly stated regret that Timothy McVeigh hadn’t blown up the NY Times building too came earliest of all. Find a new talking point, boys!
Stann Coulter got a dose of her own medicine. Go Ms. Edwards!
June 27th, 2007 at 10:44 amWhat do you mean “why should they” ?
If they are “bearing the brunt” of something that had no connection to them then they’ve chosen to do that.
Just like you’ve chosen to be outraged by something you didn’t understand and when presented with the opportunity to understand it, will choose not to.
You mean like as bright as a 1000w lightbulb ?
June 27th, 2007 at 10:45 amWell thanks for the compliment.
Made yourself look stupid there for no apparent reason. Strange move, but there you go.
What do you mean “why should they†?
If they are “bearing the brunt†of something that had no connection to them then they’ve chosen to do that.
Just like you’ve chosen to be outraged by something you didn’t understand and when presented with the opportunity to understand it, will choose not to.
I recently figured out why you’re called kilo. That’s to say, because you’re about as bright as a kilowatt.
Comment by Lora — June 27, 2007 @ 10:25 am
You mean like as bright as a 1000w lightbulb ?
Well thanks for the compliment.
Made yourself look stupid there for no apparent reason. Strange move, but there you go.
Comment by Kilo
What am I supposed to understand? Ann-thrax Coulter can’t say a thing about John Edwards’ policies, so she calls him a “fag” and wishes him death. There couldn’t be anything more obvious. The Edwards haven’t chosen to bear the brunt of Bill Maher’s remarks. You know very well that you have been saying that Ann’s remarks are okay because they are re-stating what Maher said about Cheney. You’ve also conveniently ignored Ann’s inflammatory remarks about poisoning Justice Stevens and blowing up the NY Times building, which long preceded Maher’s “joke” about Dickhead.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:02 amSorry you can’t read very well. “1 kilowatt” means exactly that, without the subsequent zeros you read into it. In other words, you haven’t been complimented and have only succeeded in making yourself look even stupider.
BTW, I have not been outraged by Ann-thrax’s latest remarks–just disgusted. But then I wouldn’t really expect someone with a kilowatt’s worth of brains to understand the difference.
I will be going out for a while, so don’t expect an immediate reply.
You guys who are calling Coulter names are missing the point, yo. Yes, she actually deserves to be called names, because that is the crux of what she believes to be political debate. So when somebody calls her a name, it energizes her and reinforces her twisted fking vision of what a political debate is.
Edwards has pretty much exposed the fact that Coulter has no legitimate political point to make, that talking shit in this day of tabloids and celeb worship is about all that’s left of debate… that, instead of concentrating on ways to make this country better, the powers that be would prefer it if we were distracted by chubby legs, fags, and shit-talking book deals. That the majority of Americans believe shit talking is actually debate is a sad reality of our times.
We may not have healthcare that works, but man, the way Coulter calles Edwards a fag makes me feel safe and healthy at the end of the day!
June 27th, 2007 at 11:04 amWasn’t Mrs. Edwards the one that attacked her neighbor because he wasn’t as rich as she and her husband, and said those snarky things about Mary Cheney? Just asking……
June 27th, 2007 at 11:07 amIt is very telling that the very same people who like Edwards and her comments are the ones doing the namecalling and throwing out vulgar nasty words. I guess you didn’t get what she was saying or don’t agree with her…you just hate Ann
June 27th, 2007 at 11:16 amThe ignorant right-wingers HAVE no real substance. They have no intelligent position on the issues. That’s why they do things like attack Edwards’ dead son, criticize Hillary’s thighs, point out how fat Al Gore and Michael Moore are, attack Chelsea Clinton when she was a child, etc., etc.
It just shows how people like Ann Coulter have no substance as human beings. That’s why so many of them shill for large corporations which hurt the people. They have no souls.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:23 amAnn Coulter is an anorexic bloviatrix.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:26 amTo the Ann-loving trolls (before I go off for hours),
June 27th, 2007 at 11:29 amIf you think publicly calling a candidate you don’t think a “fag” or “faggot” is fair game, you should keep in mind that there is much stronger evidence indicating George W. Bush to be gay or bi. To wit, no one has managed to dig up information about John Edwards having overnights with gay hookers, like Dumbya’s many rendezvous’ with Jeff Gannon/James Guckert. Moreover, Dumbya’s nickname at Yale was “lips”–something to do with BJs. Not that I think there is anything wrong with being gay; it’s only the hypocrisy of the closeted homo right that annoys me.
BrianS I have a question , with all of this Liberal Hate directed at Ann Coulter , will you people have any left over for Bill Maur ?
June 27th, 2007 at 11:30 amErrata:
June 27th, 2007 at 11:31 amI should have written “you don’t like” in my first line in #382.
BrianS I have a question , with all of this Liberal Hate directed at Ann Coulter , will you people have any left over for Bill Maur(SIC) ?
Comment by FDR — June 27, 2007
Who is Bill Maur? Never heard of him. In any case, my hired troll, you obviously have lots of hate left over for anyone to the left of Hitler, my granddad’s buddy.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:34 amPresident Bush 43 well then you must be as stupid as you think your namesake is : ) let me help you .
William Maher, Jr., (pronounced: /mɑɹ/) (born January 20, 1956) is an American comedian, actor, writer, and producer. He hosted the late-night television talk show Politically Incorrect on Comedy Central and ABC, and is currently the star of Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO. On June 1, 2006, he also began hosting an internet-exclusive talk show on Amazon.com entitled Amazon Fishbowl.
Maher is known for his political satire and sociopolitical commentary. His commentaries target a wide swath of topics, from the right-wing to the left-wing, bureaucracies of many kinds, political correctness, Hollywood, the mass media, and persons in positions of high political and social power, among many others. He is a big supporter of legalizing cannabis and additionally is known for his promotion of gay marriage.[1][2] Maher is number 38 on Comedy Central’s 100 greatest stand-ups of all time.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:41 amContents
President Bush 43
June 27th, 2007 at 11:44 amwhy is it that you people always think that anyone with an opposing view is hired ? are you paid by George Soros , or Moveon.orgre or by Thinknoprogress . you must be .
The ignorant right-wingers HAVE no real substance. They have no intelligent position on the issues. That’s why they do things like attack Edwards’ dead son, criticize Hillary’s thighs, point out how fat Al Gore and Michael Moore are, attack Chelsea Clinton when she was a child, etc., etc.
It just shows how people like Ann Coulter have no substance as human beings. That’s why so many of them shill for large corporations which hurt the people. They have no souls.
Comment by BrianS — June 27, 2007 @ 11:23 am
I agree. Those braindead Republicans, of that white Christian party, who have never worked an honest day in their lives, who torture prisoners with smelly underwear– I hate those people and everything they stand for.
Coulter’s comments are outrageous and regrettable and have no place in the political arena. It’s especially disturbing coming from somebody who’s supposed be in a position of responsibility.
That hate speech has no place in our political discourse and she should resign her post as, um, well, er, as a citizen.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:44 amBrianS I have a question , with all of this Liberal Hate directed at Ann Coulter , will you people have any left over for Bill Maur ?
Bill Maher is a comedian. Ann Coulter is not a comedian. He is funny. Ann just spews hate and venom. In fact, I don’t think I have ever heard anything else come out of her mouth (you know, like rational conversation or reasonable debate).
June 27th, 2007 at 11:45 amFDR/Bill Clinton/Harry Truman-wannabe,
June 27th, 2007 at 11:47 amI have heard of Bill Maher–not Bill “Maur.” The “SIC” I added should have indicate to you that something is wrong. Still, I am glad to hear you acknowledge my stupidity.
BTW, If you know enough to google Bill Maher’s name, why did you misspell it as “Maur” in Post #383? So he’s a supporter of gay marriage, he? Does that mean you oppose the idea of the lovely daughter of our esteemed veep Darth Cheney marrying her longtime lover Heather?
To the troll calling himself FDR…..
There is no such thing as Liberal Hate.
Unfortunates like you think all humankind is in your own image.
We ain’t!!!
Coulter has several loose screws….she sells books….spreads ignorance and hate.
And those who listen to or read her…..wallow in ignorance and hate.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:48 amAnd PS: The party that has Adolf Hitler as its leader has no right to criticize John Edwards, that upstanding attorney who selflessly represented the downtrodden, put evil doctors out of business with hard scientific evidence, which had the double-benefit of causing hits to evil insurance companies, causing insurance premiums to skyrocket.
All for the good of the community.
And then he joined a hedge fund to see how the poor live.
This man is the salt of the earth and you have no right to poke fun at him.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:50 amIt means I know what the statement that directly preceeded the Coulter quote here was and that it informs the context in which it was said.
If you want to interpret that as support for gay adoption, tort reform, medicare funding or some fkn thing then knock yourself out Non Sequitur Man.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:52 amFor a long time conservatives did not have anyone like ANN COULTER, to respond back to all the LIBERAL BASHING. Now that the conservatives do have someone like Ann Coulter, all the liberals do is WHINE and COMPLAIN. If anyone has wrote the book ON personal destruction, it is you-LIBERALS. STOP YOUR WHINING AND COMPLAINING!
June 27th, 2007 at 11:53 amTo the troll calling himself FDR…..
There is no such thing as Liberal Hate.
Unfortunates like you think all humankind is in your own image.
We ain’t!!!
Coulter has several loose screws….she sells books….spreads ignorance and hate.
And those who listen to or read her…..wallow in ignorance and hate.
Comment by Sister Faith — June 27, 2007 @ 11:48 am
Agreed. There is no such thing as liberal hate. Ann Coulter has no artistic intregrity, spreads only ignorance and hate and her intellect is no match for mine.
My book, Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot, was factual, and contained no ignorance or hate and was a message of diversity, inclusion and tolerance–those three critical constitutional principles we progressives fight for every day.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:53 amAgreed. There is no such thing as liberal hate. Ann Coulter has no artistic intregrity, spreads only ignorance and hate and her intellect is no match for mine. and that is why she makes so much more money that Al Franken
June 27th, 2007 at 11:56 amAnn Coutler’s looks are beside the point…all you who comment on them… except maybe that she doesn’t look like the tough cookie she desperately tries to be. She fails at that. I love how every comment she gets pinned to the mat on was supposedly “a joke”. That’s like a teenager’s attempt to escape a lecture when they’ve spoken inappropriately. Ann has the intellectual capacity of a teen. [My apologies to smart teens everywhere]
June 27th, 2007 at 12:00 pmNah…forget what she looks like and listen to her act. She changes the subject to avoid her comeuppance. I love her questioning of Edwards’ money situation. And how much money did you make, Ann, with your comments? At least Edwards is trying to do something. What are you doing, Ann? I mean for anyone but yourself?
I love it. Now Ann has a foil: Elizabeth Edwards. No contest there which one you’d rather have lunch with!
Ok I am Sorry , John Edwards is not a Fag , He is the Breck Girl !!!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:02 pmits Funny with all the Hate Speech that you People direct at Conservatives I find it funny that you people get your panties in a wad over something that a Conservative says . Do you Liberals know how to define the word HYPOCRITE ?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:05 pmIt means I know what the statement that directly preceeded the Coulter quote here was and that it informs the context in which it was said.
If you want to interpret that as support for gay adoption, tort reform, medicare funding or some fkn thing then knock yourself out Non Sequitur Man.
Comment by Kilo
Could you please translate that first sentence into comprehensible English?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:06 pmAnd since you, in fact, don’t seem to understand English very well, let me tell you that I didn’t interpret that as meaning support for gay adoption, etc. I was simply trying to ask the fake-FDR (or braindead FDR) if he is opposed to the possibility of Mary Cheney getting to marry her longtime lesbian lover. You know, I love to pander to the Christian right with homophob remarks, but, in reality, I occasionally have gay hookers like Jeff Gannon over to the WH to satisfy certain yearnings I can’t quite control.
The REAL Breck Girl would make a better president than any GOP contender.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:08 pmA Ham Sandwich would be a better president than any GOP contender.
Hi Zooey still Liberal Trolling it ?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:09 pmAgreed. There is no such thing as liberal hate. Ann Coulter has no artistic intregrity, spreads only ignorance and hate and her intellect is no match for mine. and that is why she makes so much more money that Al Franken
Comment by FDR — June 27, 2007 @ 11:56 am
Yes–and that’s the same reason I also failed as a radio host. People just don’t respond to my intellectual, progressive message.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:09 pmDo you Liberals know how to define the word HYPOCRITE ?
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Hy-po-crite: A coservative.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:10 pmGray speaking great words of wisdom from a DEMWIT point of view
June 27th, 2007 at 12:11 pmGray no silly go look in the mirror and say DEMWIT HYPOCRITE
June 27th, 2007 at 12:12 pmThe REAL Breck Girl would make a better president than any GOP contender. A Ham Sandwich would be a better president than any GOP contender.
Comment by Gray — June 27, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
It’s hard to disagree with that.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:13 pm#404 – Gray, don’t be discouraged by the ramblings of the rabid-right.
Everyone knows that the Republicans brought us the Culture of Corruption, and that hypocrisy, while not limited to Republicans, does happen to be one of their defining characteristics.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:14 pmDemocrats are good for 2 things raising Taxes and making it easy for Terrorist to Attack . look no further than Bill Clintons approach to stopping Terror and his record . With any luck on the part of the Terrorist Hillary may well surpass her husbands record . : ) GO HILLARY !!!
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.
2000
Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
2001
June 27th, 2007 at 12:17 pmMr. Bush Goes To Hell we can start with your name
June 27th, 2007 at 12:18 pmLook for the Clinton Terrorist attack list Daily , you people are going to get real tired of seeing it
June 27th, 2007 at 12:21 pmI love her questioning of Edwards’ money situation. And how much money did you make, Ann, with your comments? At least Edwards is trying to do something. What are you doing, Ann? I mean for anyone but yourself?
Comment by Gray — June 27, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
Excellent point. While Ann was out there making money off of her hateful books, I was doing my part to bankrupt evil doctors and put a hurtin on those evil insurance companies, who had the temerity to pass on their losses to my constituents in the form of higher premiums (but that’s their fault, not mine).
And while Ann was raking in the cash from her books, I was working for a hedge fund learning about the trials and tribulations of the poor.
And when I’m sitting in my beauty salon getting $400 haircuts, I look out the window to my unobstructed view of poor neighborhoods, studying all of the evils of urban living.
Ann has nothing on me when it comes to caring and concern and doing positive things for the community.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:22 pmAnn has nothing on me when it comes to caring and concern and doing positive things for My wallet
June 27th, 2007 at 12:25 pmJOHN KERRY FOR FAIRNESS DOCTRINE IN MEDIA TO CORRECT ‘IMBALANCE’… will Lurch extend this Fairness to the only networks that Scaredycrats will Debate on ? you know ABC , NBC , CBS , MSNBC , CNN / HEADLINE NEWS ?
June 27th, 2007 at 12:28 pmDENYING THAT LIBERALS DON’T USE HATE SPEECH, IS LIKE ALCOHOLICS STATING THAT THEY ARE NOT ALCOHOLIC. WHEN U ADMIT THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLE, THEN U CAN GET THE HELP U NEED TO BECOME A BETTER PERSON!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:29 pmAny of you liberals out there call your congresspeople or Nancy Pelosi? After Cheney’s latest outrages, what in the name of heaven will it take to “put impeachment on the table?” Call your congresspeople at the toll free number 1-800-828-0498 to get the Capitol switchboard and ask for your congressperson. Ask them to support Dennis Kucinich’s impeachment resolution H.R. 333. Do something real instead of this blathering back and forth with cretins.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:29 pmHonesty , is the virtue that Liberals need to embrace most .
June 27th, 2007 at 12:32 pmSue Noel watch what you ask for , you may get it .
June 27th, 2007 at 12:33 pmDENYING THAT LIBERALS DON’T USE HATE SPEECH, IS LIKE ALCOHOLICS STATING THAT THEY ARE NOT ALCOHOLIC. WHEN U ADMIT THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, THEN U CAN GET THE HELP U NEED TO BECOME A BETTER PERSON!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:34 pmDemocrats Hard on Bush Soft on Terror
June 27th, 2007 at 12:34 pm#404 – Gray, don’t be discouraged by the ramblings of the rabid-right.
Everyone knows that the Republicans brought us the Culture of Corruption, and that hypocrisy, while not limited to Republicans, does happen to be one of their defining characteristics.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — June 27, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Exactly right—HICCCCCCUP!!!
In fact, below are the signatories of a petition that expresses that very excellent observation by a host of prominent Democratic figures.
Be it resolved that we detest and vigorously oppose the culture of corruption:
Bill Clinton
June 27th, 2007 at 12:43 pmTed Kennedy
Barney Frank
Charles Barron
Bill Clinton
Jesse Jackson
William Jefferson
Robert Byrd
Diane Feinstein
All Brooklyn judges
Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton
Harry Reid
Public Unions
Alcee Hasting
Maxine Waters
John Murtha
Bill Clinton
John Conyers
Patrick Kennedy
Cynthia McKinney
Sandy Burglar
Ron Brown
Bill Clinton
Webb Hubbell
Jim Guy Tucker
Red Bone
James McDougal
Susan McDougal
Craig Livingstone
Bill Clinton
Charlie Tree
Marc Rich
Dan Rather
FALN Terrorists…
DENYING THAT LIBERALS DON’T USE HATE SPEECH, IS LIKE ALCOHOLICS STATING THAT THEY ARE NOT ALCOHOLIC. WHEN U ADMIT THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLE, THEN U CAN GET THE HELP U NEED TO BECOME A BETTER PERSON!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:47 pmWhile I agree that Ann Coulter is an abomination that spends her time spreading lies, hatred, ignorance and ugliness, I was also appalled by the responses from some of your readers that were equally ugly. Elizabeth Edwards came across as what she is, an intelligent dignified woman of great moral character that maintained her dignity and composure in an exchange with an opportunistic, shallow micreant that doesn’t have the intelligence or knowledge to argue an issue without stooping to name calling and viscious personal attacks. I do understand the anger directed at Ms. Coulter (like her male counterparts, O’Reilly and Limbaugh, she consistently makes outlandish and frequently untrue acusations as a substitute for intelligent discourse), but why stoop to her level by using obscene and ugly language? What is the old sayinig, “If you lie down with dogs, you will rise up with fleas.” Leave Ms. Coulter to wallow in dirt and sleaze – don’t give her the satisfaction of wallowing with her.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:48 pmFDR et al, I won’t waste any more of my valuable time on this than to say impeachment is the only answer. Even if impeachment is not completed in time, we must start because if we don’t these criminals in charge will get away with everything, just like Henry Kissinger and others have done. Presidents and vps will be able to violate the constitution and everything this country is supposed to stand for with impunity. The end- no more- I have to go out and work for my country and not sit on my fat ass emailing back and forth with imbeciles.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:49 pmI do understand the anger directed at Ms. Coulter (like her male counterparts, O’Reilly and Limbaugh, she consistently makes outlandish and frequently untrue acusations as a substitute for intelligent discourse), but why stoop to her level by using obscene and ugly language?
Comment by Ann Goscicki — June 27, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Here, here. We should not stoop to her level but making outlandish, and even childish statements. That does nothing to raise the level of discourse.
–Al Franken, author of Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot
June 27th, 2007 at 12:52 pmFDR et al, I won’t waste any more of my valuable time on this than to say impeachment is the only answer. Even if impeachment is not completed in time, we must start because if we don’t these criminals in charge will get away with everything, just like Henry Kissinger and others have done. Presidents and vps will be able to violate the constitution and everything this country is supposed to stand for with impunity. The end- no more- I have to go out and work for my country and not sit on my fat ass emailing back and forth with imbeciles.
Comment by Sue Noel — June 27, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Agreed. We cannot allow violations of the Constitution to permeate the highest office in the land.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:54 pmI have accidentally tuned in while Ann Coulter was speaking on CSPAN, and was struck by the venomous hate that spews from her mouth and body language. Does anyone have access to her psych eval? She is pathetic and dangerous. In SC there are 25 identified hate groups, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s count. AC is one of those all by herself. She is a hatemonger all over the world through the media that honor her with a microphone and distribution.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:06 pmhave accidentally tuned in while Ann Coulter was speaking on CSPAN, and was struck by the venomous hate that spews from her mouth and body language. Does anyone have access to her psych eval? She is pathetic and dangerous. In SC there are 25 identified hate groups, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s count. AC is one of those all by herself. She is a hatemonger all over the world through the media that honor her with a microphone and distribution.
Comment by reta richardson — June 27, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
Did I make the list?
Granted, I’m only the head of the Democrat party, but Coulter can’t hold a candle to my hate speech.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:08 pmWhy is ANYONE other than Fox giving this woman air time? She is a complete waste of time.
BAC
June 27th, 2007 at 1:11 pmWow! 429 posts about my hero Ann Coulter! It’s amazing how TP leaves out some of what Ann really meant.
“If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot,” Coulter said Monday, picking up on remarks made by HBO’s Bill Maher. Maher suggested in March that “people wouldn’t be dying needlessly” if Vice President Dick Cheney had been killed in an insurgent attack in Afghanistan”
She’s too good for you dumb liberals!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:18 pmwow.. michael that is good.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:25 pmLook at these stupid statements frome you dopes?
“Die now mAnn Coulter, you f*cking sick, ugly, smelly whore.
There’s a place in HELL reserved for your ilk: SH*T EATER”
“That creature is the definition of a C***!!! No disrespect meant to the word!!!”
“Like their idol, Trolls never engage their brains before opening their pieholes”
“Ann Coulter was her typical disgusting self. Shes a horrible woman”
Do you people on the left have any grey matter between those ears?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:26 pm“Why is ANYONE other than Fox giving this woman air time?
Comment by BAC — June 27, 2007″
Because she’s BRILLIANT!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:28 pmIsn’t it amazing that these “conservatives” drop so many comments about a hair cut yet worship those with money? Like Bush has never blown a grand on something worthless. That’s what should be dominant in their minds’ though with the country in the mess that it is. Not healthcare or the economy, no, a freaking hair cut. I used to think that “conservatives” were just ignorant, I have to let go of my leftist heart a bit. Some of them are just stupid. Plain. Simple. Stupid.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:32 pmMichael, politics SHOULD be about the issues themselves, I don’t know if you on the right missed that memo. If someone had said the things that Coulter has said against Edwards towards, say, your mother, what would you think of that person? Should we hear her say these disquisting things and say, oh well, like you people do? Don’t call yourselves moral Christians or anything else if you hear her say the things she does and defend her. It has nothing to do with your “conservative” philosophy.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:35 pm“wow.. michael that is good.
Comment by DAVID — June 27, 2007″
Wow David! Is that the most intelligent comment you’ve made today?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:36 pmThis comment by you Michael was brilliant, you’d have to study, read and think for years to come up with this logic, wow:
“She’s too good for you dumb liberals!”
Are you a writer?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:40 pm“Michael, politics SHOULD be about the issues themselves, I don’t know if you on the right missed that memo. If someone had said the things that Coulter has said against Edwards towards, say, your mother, what would you think of that person? Should we hear her say these disquisting things and say, oh well, like you people do? Don’t call yourselves moral Christians or anything else if you hear her say the things she does and defend her. It has nothing to do with your “conservative†philosophy.
Comment by Yo — June 27, 2007″
Oh please? Do you ever listen to some of the things that people like Moore, and Franken and company say about Cheney & Bush? How about some of the assinine comments that you dopey liberals make on this blog? Get over it! Politics should be about issues? When is the left going to start discussing them?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:40 pmmichael, i guess the liberals on here are not too smart after all. If they were smart, then they would have known that she was restating what bill maher was saying, by interjecting edwards name. WOW.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:40 pmAnn Coulter’s response to Elizabeth was in keeping with her usual appalling refusal to deal with any legitimate topic in other than a sarcastic, confrontational manner – diverting people’s attention from the real issue(s) to some side show of Coulter’s choosing. Coulter has made her living off of being negative and mean-spirited. She’s not relevant to intelligent dialogue. So, the real quesiton is, why did Chris give her ANY air time?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:41 pmDaily Kos Straw Poll
June 27th, 2007 at 1:42 pmhttp://www.dailykos.com/tag/straw%20poll
““She’s too good for you dumb liberals!â€
Comment by Yo — June 27, 2007″
Are you denying it?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:42 pm“She’s not relevant to intelligent dialogue. So, the real quesiton is, why did Chris give her ANY air time?
Comment by B. J. Dale — June 27, 2007″
She’s not? But your beloved Cindy Sheehan is? Not that I would place Sheehan in the same intellectual company as Coulter.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI’m sorry, are we or you on this site defending these comments? It would be one thing if we were discussing here some bad comments made by “liberals” elsewhere and defending them, which I see no one here doing. The issue right now is Coulter’s comments, and you are here, basically defending them. You’re assuming, if the same was said from “liberals”, that we’d do the same, when you have no way of knowing that. You assume that because of your mentality, after all YOU are the one here saying what she said is just fine and dandy. Myself, I know what I’m talking about and I care about issues themselves, not personal attacks.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:47 pmLet us not all slip down into the wagon rut with the snake. The best action is to boycott any and all shows the mouth of A. C. appears on. The Fox network will not be bothered by this but then who really cares about the fox network except those of like mind. E-mail the shows that give abonimable Ann a sounding board and tell them you will not watch any program she is on. The Media outlets are the ones responsible for giving this most vile of creatures a venue. I would ask insteads that the following item of importanced be considered:
Just who are our future Presidential candidates? Why is it that each and everyone of them is a millionaire? When is the last time anyone of them had to make a hard personal decision? Other than John Edwards, have any of them ever sat in a hospital room filled with dread because they are watching their child or parent in a bed with tubes and needles all in their body? Did they have to make the choice of not to eat or to mortgage there home to pay to try to save a life? When was the last time one of them had to choose between paying to eat lunch or put five bucks of gas in the tank to get to work? Have any of them gone to the homes of the working poor who can’t afford college or health care for their kids? Do the candidates realize that most of the working poor living in neighborhoods like Spanish-Harlem or Compton work multiple jobs each day so they can be good examples for their children? Would they enter these areas without a large personal defense force? Have the current crop of candidates ever been to a natural disaster just hours after the storm clears to see the real devastation or do they just wait for the photo op then make empty promises? Do they hear the moans of the wealthy who have lost their vacation home or the courage of the average American who is simply thankful for their life and the chance to start over? Who will they govern for? The 99.9% of us or just the 1/10 of one percent of the wealthy?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:49 pmYou have to wonder when the field has someone who is a billionaire or another one who was on the board of Wal-Mart. When we can choose between a man who uses the same tactics against the citizen who is taking a picture of the destroyed World Trade Center as he uses against a member of the Mafia or a man who thinks that there should be no government or taxes or help for our own children. Do any of these people know the price of bread or milk? Can any of them drive their own cars? Do we need leaders who are so removed that they don’t know the answers to the last two questions? Should our choice be a far right libertarian or a far left Democrat? I would say that it should not be either of these choices but instead someone from the middle. Should the primaries be controlled by a small group of religious zealots on the right or a minuscule group of gay loudmouths on the left? I have no problem with a belief in God or a belief the average gay individual deserves respect as a humanbeing and all the protections under the law that “straight” people recieve. I do have a problem when either side tries to force their belief system down my throat like I am being force fed or water boarded! When we are faced with a national debt so large it defies comprehension can we afford to cut the governments income(taxes)? Would you go out and buy a new Cadillac or Corolla if you just lost your job or would you start eating generic foods so you could cut your expenses till you regain your earning potential? Would you follow the pack and stick your head in the sand about being led into a war over weapons of mass destruction when the weapons used by the enemy we are planning to attack were given to the enemy by the biggest salesman of the war? Would you vote for a candidate that uses the same scare tactics against us that we have indured fot the last six and a half yers or for someone who thinks turning our back on an extreemist muslim bully won’t result in the same attack again. I will not vote for a woman who wants to ammend the constitution to outlaw flag burning, which I detest, or a man who does not believe in evolution.
Please! I put forth to you my fellow Average Americans that it is time for us to take back the politics of our nation. Ask the tough questions, don’t let the media throw soft ball questions. Demand answers to the questions. Do not accept answers to questions that you did not ask. Do not accept no answer. Do not accept Bullshit from liers and spin doctors and people that say they have the math.
“I’m sorry, are we or you on this site defending these comments?
Comment by Yo — June 27, 2007″
Yes, because I understand the context in which she makes those statements, you obviously don’t.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:52 pmBy the way Mikie, since Coulter, and yourself OBVIOUSLY, have such amazing intellects, link an article on an issue that she’s penned that is well written and doesn’t involve attacking other people. Please. Link an article that someone who doesn’t care about partisan nonsense, like myself, would learn about an issue. Does she write anything interesting on healthcare? Does she write anything on the economy that doesn’t involve bumper sticker, free market platitude logic? If so, link away. Idiots usually think other idiots are brilliant because they don’t have the mental capacity to differentiate intelligent dialogue from nonsense.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:53 pm“The best action is to boycott any and all shows the mouth of A. C. appears on.
Comment by James Reed — June 27, 2007″
Yup! When you are not intelligent enough to stand up to her, boycott!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:53 pm#448 – “Yup! When you are not intelligent enough to stand up to her, boycott!” Comment by michael — June 27, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
But when you are more intelligent than Ann C., and prove to the world that Ann C.’s “debating’ skills are lower than the ethics of a Congressional Republican, then that makes you. . . .. Ms. Edwards!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:56 pmOh, she was joking about her dead son while linking it to an issue. I see. There’s no other way she could have talked about the issue than bringing her dead son into it. I get it. She was talking about Edwards being killed in a terrorist attack while talking about an important issue, and again, couldn’t have talked about the issue without calling someone names, like a seventh grader. She called Edwards a “faggot” while talking about the effects of NAFTA on Mexico’s agricultural system I’m guessing, right? I can see why someone with your intellect thinks Coulter is brilliant and we’re idiots. It makes sense now.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:57 pmThat was the perfect set-up. She brought the rope to her own hanging! Thank you Chris!
June 27th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWhen NEO-CONSERVATIVES deny that they don’ use hate speech, it’s exactly like an alcoholic claiming they don’t have a problem with alcohol.
Come on NEO-CONSERVATIVES ! Admit that you have a problem and then work on trying to make yourself a better person! It will be hard, but if you begin to care about your failure as a person, then you can make a difference and become someone better than you currently are!
June 27th, 2007 at 2:05 pmMike,
June 27th, 2007 at 2:08 pmIt is obvious that you lack the intellectual skills necessary to maintain a prolonged debate. I will put this to you as lcd as possible, look out bud the wagon is coming.
Ms. Edwards is not innocent of calling people names.
http://www.newsobserver.com/114/story/562899.html
DemoRats in Glass houses
ROTFL
June 27th, 2007 at 2:14 pmHa ha ha. The election must be coming up. Coulter makes light of Edward’s son’s death, calls her husband a faggot and wishes Edwards would die in a terrorist attack (all on tv, not some right wing organization finding one of Edward’s right wing neighbors to start some PR campaign) and its equivalent to her calling someone a “rabid Republican” and then link it to a neighbor dispute, which I’m sure Americans will be horrified by. I’m not a Democrat, as of now I don’t plan on voting, but if this nonsense continues you people on the right might drag me out to the voting booths. I honestly mean that. I’m tired of these dishonest pr campaigns that you people pull every election cycle. I’m still waiting to hear what your party has to say about us fixing our 37th ranked healthcare system (which we pay twice as much per capita as anyone else in the world for) and the “free trade” that has destroyed our industrial base and economy. I’m thinking neighborly fights have no bearing what so ever on my, or the person who linked this, life. If you vote against Edwards because of this, and not an actual issue, I’d like to hear your rational. Honestly. What bearing does this have on your life and in what was is it equivalent to what Coulter said?
June 27th, 2007 at 2:28 pmAnn C. needs to cut back on the testosterone injections, before the physical effects become more noticable.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI have to give it to you, that North Carolina newspaper article is a real scorcher. The only difference of how I would have handled the situation, I would have taken his gun away for endangering my children.
he once pulled a gun on workers investigating a right of way on his property.
Johnson didn’t rebut Edwards’ comments. He’s a proud member of the Grand Old Party and owns a 9 mm handgun he said he’s not afraid to use.
By the word rabid is not a hate word, it is an descriptive adjective which has the following synonyns
berserk, bigoted, bitten, bugged, corybantic, crazed*, crazy, delirious, deranged, enthusiastic, extreme, extremist, fanatical, fervent, flipped*, frantic, freaked out*, frenetic, frenzied, furious, hot*, hydrophobic, infuriated, insane, intemperate, intolerant, irrational, keen, mad, mad-dog*, made, maniacal, narrow-minded, nutty*, obsessed, overboard, poisoned, radical, raging, revolutionary, sick*, sizzling, smoking*, steamed up*, stoned, ultra, ultraist, violent, virulent, wild, zealous
My my the pulling of a hand gun on workers who are investigating a right of way sure seems to fit the list
June 27th, 2007 at 2:32 pmAnn, as always, quickly balloons Mrs. Edwards request to mean that she is asking her to stop speaking and writing books, when it is abvious that that is not at all what she’s asking. It’s like a petulant teenager, when asked politely to not track mud onto the carpet, reacts with “I get yelled at for everything! Excuse me for living”. It has no real basis in logic, but the false premise she tries to establish, that Mrs. Edwards is asking her to stop speaking and writing, gives her a ‘right’ to defend the (nonexistent) unfair attack. Ann goes on about her name being used to make money, but that’s really all she is doing, making money by stoking her listeners and readers with false outrage.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:43 pmIt’s this kind of logic that let’s Bush go from bin Laden “dead or alive” to bin Laden “I-I-I I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. ” The best way to deal with Ann is not respond with the anger you immediately feel, but logically point out the gaping flaws in what she uses instead of reason. She’s a twit, but has realized a good way to make money – just say a bunch of bombastic things, especially to demonize a person or group, and make them the enemy, and sell, sell, sell ranting about them. No, she doesn’t want to “raise” the speech, as that would invite erguments and debates that actually make sense, she’s best at wishing terrorists to attack John Edwards, or claiming he has a bumper sticker telling people to ask him about his son’s horrific accident, or telling the “9-11 widows” that they should “just shut up”.
Anne Coulter is a bitch..its as simple as that.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI say we all meet in a football field somewhere and have a big fist fight. The mouths that attack on personal levels won’t showbecause they are cowards that hide on the other side of their computer screens and the rest will be able to settle the matter in a more mature manner, beat the sh*t out of each other.
June 27th, 2007 at 2:54 pmAllie is not TOO smart, is she. Is that all she can say about ANN. WOW! Another NOT so intelligent liberal…lol
June 27th, 2007 at 2:55 pmD you are what you are ace,don’t look in the mirror
June 27th, 2007 at 2:57 pmIn regards to FDR, I was in sight of the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001, and saw them burning with my own eyes not on a TV. Rudy G said it was a crime sceen and had New Yorkers incarcerated for taking photos of a crime scene. When it came time to compile statistics on murders for the city that year he said that the victims were not murdered and that the site was not a crime scene . America’s Mayor my arse.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:05 pmJames Reed — a man who does not know how to spell. LOL. PLEASE learn how to spell, before you start calling people names.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:08 pmwhen typing at a certain pace I would not expect you to hit every key exactly, I can tell the truth about someone who does not use their name, however.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:12 pmI can also tell a lot about a person whose only course of rebuttle is a personal attack.
Step up to the plate and let everyone find out who and what you are.
D explain to me where my name calling comes in
June 27th, 2007 at 3:13 pmoh wait it was just a joke, right D?
June 27th, 2007 at 3:14 pmif you want names I can call you one in many different languages
June 27th, 2007 at 3:15 pmD that is the wit I expexted from you lun yern
June 27th, 2007 at 3:18 pmMany finalized lawsuits centering on medical malpractice actually benefit the taxpayers in ways which Ann Coulter champions. When a baby suffers blindness, deafness, severe brain damage (which results in mental and physical limitations requiring intensive around the clock assistance) a tremendous burden falls on all of the people and organizations which will be in contact with the child. Responding to the needs of a severely impaired child is a good and worthy task. For those children who have been so unfortunate to have been dealt this fate through the carelessness of those who know better, lawsuit settlements make the response easier. Local school districts may benefit because the financial arrangements might include provisions for transportation to and from school, medical appointments, therapy sessions. Many settlements make arrangements for separate aides to accommpany the child to school, lessening the burden on the local educational system. Some social services rendered to the child and family who were unable to pay prior to the settlement are entitled to and receive reimbursement. Ms. Coulter is not interested in this information, I know. She is the right wing’s version of Paris Hilton and Anna Nichol Smith: say and do what you will, in the end it’s the money in her hands that she takes to the bank that motivates everything.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:19 pmcome on D, can’t you step up to the plate when it is your turn at bat
June 27th, 2007 at 3:20 pmallie
June 27th, 2007 at 3:22 pmDon’t you mean Everybody who does not think like ME is a BITCH ?
WAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I see FDR is not able to reply in a civilized manner either, another fine example why some people should not spread the gene pool
June 27th, 2007 at 3:24 pmwhat a bunch of cowards
June 27th, 2007 at 3:25 pmallie I am sure that you think that Bill Maher , ( Your Guys Rabid Dog ) is a Bitch too . Hey I mean after all anyone who says our Soldiers are Cowards and The Terrorist are Brave are talking right out of the Democrat Handbook .
June 27th, 2007 at 3:26 pmyo FDR are you deaf, I am calling on you to step up to the plate in a real contest of wits. Can you actually back up your disgusting words with some actual positons and real ideas?
June 27th, 2007 at 3:28 pmI live in San Francisco, which has only slightly more transexuals per square foot than the Republican Party. Which makes me wonder why, with all the womanlike transexuals there are between those two worlds, the repugs would pay Trann Coulter to lap dance for rednex.
In the words of Mad TV’s Ms. Swan, Ann “look like a man,” which, for the repugs, is probably the attraction.
As for “hiding behind your computer screens,” hiding behind your patriotism is far more cowardly.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:28 pmJames Reed is there anything that a Conservative can say that you would call civilized ? I think not . Only Liberals can be civil all other opinions must be squelched .
June 27th, 2007 at 3:29 pmyo FDR are you deaf, I am calling on you to step up to the plate in a real contest of wits. Can you actually back up your disgusting words with some actual positons and real ideas?
Which ones ?
June 27th, 2007 at 3:31 pmYes I can FDR, MY father is a Republican, a Presidential appointee, the man has been civil his whole life, except in the defense of his country and his family. As a point of fact the Republicans of this day and age like to couch themselves in religion, yet toss it and civil behavior when either is contrary to their argument. So lets go!
June 27th, 2007 at 3:34 pmSince FDR has no concept of who or what I am this should be interesting to the audience. I use my real name not some set of initials that are a poor attempt at sarcasim.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:36 pmhere little FDR, I am right in front of you
June 27th, 2007 at 3:37 pmThe trolls on this thread have spewed the same kind of lies and hatred that Ann Coulter spews, but they still haven’t killed the TOPIC of this thread:
Elizabeth Edwards: “These young people behind you (Coulter) …you’re asking them to participate in a dialogue that is based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues, and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.†The live audience cheered.
And the progressives on this thread also cheered.
The pitiful minority of Coulter love slaves sent trolls to come in here to act like their goddess, Coulter, by continuing “a dialogue that is based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues.”
UNDER THER BRIDGE, NASTY TROLLS!
June 27th, 2007 at 3:38 pmOk James Reed How about this Position , Giving the Democrats in 08 the responsibility of National Defense is like giving a 17yr. old Boy a bottle of whiskey and the keys to a car . and yes I have Proof , Why the Good Old Clinton Years.
1992-2000
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1995
April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly 2 years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.)
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.
2000
June 27th, 2007 at 3:38 pmOct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
Now tell me again how are Military is nothing but a bunch of Baby Killers
June 27th, 2007 at 3:40 pmhterrya,
June 27th, 2007 at 3:41 pmyou are correct and the sad part is no matter how hard one trys to call them out for a good fight they slither into the shadows the moment anyone stands up to them. It is sure a shame when a person who is from the sane middle ground can’t even get a good issues based fight going
The TOPIC of this thread:
Elizabeth Edwards: “These young people behind you (Coulter) …you’re asking them to participate in a dialogue that is based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues, and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.†The live audience cheered.
And the progressives on this thread also cheered.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:43 pmFDR:
Why don’t you try writing something original for a change instead of cutting and pasting copy from your favorite rightwing blog?
June 27th, 2007 at 3:44 pmJ Lewd
June 27th, 2007 at 3:47 pmBecause the stinging truth pisses you off that is why . You are a Liberal and the truth always pisses you off , now go pout
FDR,
June 27th, 2007 at 3:47 pmFirst error you made an assumption, I am not a Democrat. Next error you list events that occur along a time line but make no statement as to how they support your position, assuming you actually have a position. Oh wait it is about teenage drinking and driving. Speak your mind or shut up
hterrya You should be happy that she has the same 1st. amendment right that you enjoy
June 27th, 2007 at 3:49 pmIt can really be hard to argue with a child. Go get some experience in the world FDR, see how much each and everyone of us is the same. We all get up and put our feet on the gound before we try to stand. We, for the most part, love out children. We all want a peaceful life, well mabey not you. So crawl out of the well of preconceved ideas that your parents put into your head and think on your own for a change.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:53 pmI’ll make it simple for you . we were attacked 7 times in the 8 yrs of Bill Clinton’s Presidency . It is that example of National Defense That I compare to giving a teenage boy the keys and a bottle of booze . Both are insane
June 27th, 2007 at 3:55 pmFDR,
June 27th, 2007 at 3:56 pmsince you bring up the first amendment, look at Rudy G. and his stance on the first amendment. As Mayor of NYC he forbid the gathering of protestors in groups larger than three at City Hall. Now there is a current snap shot for Neo-Republican views on the constitution.
How about giving Ann the job as mayor of Baghdad or something.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:59 pmFDR,
Wow you actually steped up and spoke, I am amazed. Who was in charge of the House and Senate then? Newt was not to aggressive then. Nor was Trent. If I remember right the only words that came form any mouth of the extreem right was ” wag the dog”
June 27th, 2007 at 4:03 pmJames Reed
June 27th, 2007 at 4:03 pmNow you are bitching about my Parents who were Kennedy Democrats , which by no way resemble the democrat party today . I am 50 years old a Navy Veteran and I have lived on $4.25 an hour before . I have my oppinions and are entitled to them . you are a spoilrd little punk and you can go fuck yourself .
FDR,
June 27th, 2007 at 4:08 pmCan you explain to me why we are in Iraq? Can you come up with some rational the excuses the military adventurism that the native of Conneticut went on?
Mann Coulter paid good money for those boobs.
I can see the Adams Apple in that photo.
My only question about Trannie Annie is…
Pre-op or post-op?
Comment by Tom3 — June 26, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
She/He? gives transexuals a bad name. I am very tolerant of any life-style one chooses, but I have zero tolerance for SkinHeads, Drunk Violent Rednecks, and Hate mongers like Coulter. He (now she) probably didn’t get the adam’s Apple shaven after the Operation, which is usual procedure.
Does she wear the same stinky Black Mini Dress every day? It sure gets the FreeRepublic goons horny, but could you imagine when the truth comes out?
June 27th, 2007 at 4:10 pmJames Reed Shit For Brains are you saying that Newt or trent Lot was the Commander in Chief ? seems to me that Bill Clinton was the Commander in Chief from 1992-2000 after all it was He whom went to war in Bosinia and lets not forget that Great Texas Campaign , where Bill sent in the Elite Delta Force to get those dangerous christians
now don’t be a TROLL and try to change the subject to the First amendment , subject is sooooo troll like
June 27th, 2007 at 4:11 pmJames Reed you must be new here , if not you would know that I always stand up and speak .
June 27th, 2007 at 4:12 pmSo FDR,
June 27th, 2007 at 4:15 pmgotta go, life has its responsibilities. Right now mine are my three kids waking up to eat. Just so you know I have taken the oath to protect the Constitution angainst all enemies forgien and domestic. I have risked my life three different times in a hostile environment to save the life of someone I did not know. I have worked at natural disasters helping victims get there lives restarted. I have worked in confiede spaces holding metal energizes to over 7000 vac and what have you done? That is one for you to reflect on since I have to go you little ………………………….
swampgas
June 27th, 2007 at 4:17 pmGood job of expressing your opinion , for a 4th grader
you may stand up but speaking is a different subject
June 27th, 2007 at 4:17 pmswampgas
June 27th, 2007 at 4:18 pmButtgas would be a better user name for you
“She’s not relevant to intelligent dialogue. So, the real quesiton is, why did Chris give her ANY air time?
Comment by B. J. Dale — June 27, 2007″
It would seem you’ve missed the irony here. Which part of the “intelligent dialogue” is Chris Matthews a part of?
June 27th, 2007 at 4:19 pmFDR,
June 27th, 2007 at 4:20 pmyou prove my last point
seems to me that Bill Clinton was the Commander in Chief from 1992-2000 after all it was He whom went to war in Bosinia and lets not forget that Great Texas Campaign , where Bill sent in the Elite Delta Force to get those dangerous christians
Comment by FDR — June 27, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Bill Clinton was a Globalist whore like GW Bush, though not as insane. WACO and Ruby Ridge, and Bosnia were horrible situations, and I actually support Ed and Elaine Brown.
However, this current Dumbya guy and his crew are destroying EVERYTHING about this country….financially, socially, and conceptually.
Just to left you know that not all “Liberals” like Globalists. Some of us do adhere to the Constitution.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:21 pmswampgas
Good job of expressing your opinion , for a 4th grader
Comment by FDR — June 27, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
swampgas
Buttgas would be a better user name for you
Comment by FDR — June 27, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Sounbds like I’m getting to you. I will be pushing more of your buttons, so be ready….
June 27th, 2007 at 4:23 pmthe truely brave one, FDR, IS SULKING. Sad his champions said no to militarism in the Clinton tears
June 27th, 2007 at 4:29 pmswampgas
Good job of expressing your opinion , for a 4th grader
Comment by FDR — June 27, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
swampgas
Buttgas would be a better user name for you
Comment by FDR — June 27, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
The sure sign of inferior intelligence on forums is to attack the screen name of the poster. I wouldn’t show much attention to FDR, as he is on a mission to show us unwashed ones the True Way, and history shows us evangelicals are always an insane lot.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:32 pmThe trolls on this thread have spewed the same kind of lies and hatred that Ann Coulter spews, but they still haven’t killed the TOPIC of this thread:
Elizabeth Edwards: “These young people behind you (Coulter) …you’re asking them to participate in a dialogue that is based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues, and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.†The live audience cheered.
Comment by hterrya — June 27, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Get over it, already it. Ann Coulter is a mere pundit.
Contrast her behavior with the far more grotesque rhetoric of, say, the LEADERS of the Democrat party, who refer to the president as Hitler, our soldiers as Nazis and Pol Pot, who claim we’ve “opened Abu Ghraib under new management,” who claim Republicans have never worked an honest day in their lives (ironic, considering that’s the base of the party he leads) and on and on. Not to mention party members like Charles Barron, Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel and other kooks who could only find a home in the Democrat party.
Clean up your own filthy house before you start whining about a political pundit whose only sin is that she gets your goat by constantly poking you in the eye.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:33 pmthe truely brave one, FDR, IS SULKING. Sad his champions said no to militarism in the Clinton tears
Comment by James Reed — June 27, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
The funny thing about these Right Wing Sycophants like FDR is they think that we are in lock step like they are. It is called Personality Projection, much the way Fundamentalists project a vengeful angry persona upon their deities or should I say, Male Sky God.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:36 pmhoward, anyone pokes me in the eye and they would be in pain. A C is typical of the extreem Right and is just as distasteful as the extreem left. Both of which need to crawl out of the cess pool.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:37 pmnot projecting just don’t like extreemist
June 27th, 2007 at 4:42 pmstill waiting on little fdr to explain Iraq
June 27th, 2007 at 4:51 pmo’riley must be on
June 27th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by James Reed — June 27, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
howard, anyone pokes me in the eye and they would be in pain.
Not if it was your eye.
A C is typical of the extreem Right and is just as distasteful as the extreem left. Both of which need to crawl out of the cess pool.
But you fail to acknowledge the key difference: One is a pundit and the others are the leaders of a party, and should be expected to be held to a far higher standard.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:56 pmbrain, I think you are correct
June 27th, 2007 at 5:00 pmLooks like FDR’s shift has ended and it’s time for “Howard Dean” to take over. I’ll bet we can expect about the same chuckleheaded, Clinton-fearing, idiot projection we got from his coworker over at RNC HQ. At least we can safely say (and I correct myself) that this was FDR’s best post today: c v.
What makes these people assume everyone who disagrees with them is a Democrat or a Liberal? In their dualistic (i.e., “Christofascist”) view, there are no choices other than black/white, Republican/Democrat, man/woman, et/al. (With regard to “man/woman,” I’d say Trann Coulter is enough to disprove that dualism.) In the words of Shakespeare’s Hamlet, “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio/Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
If only members of Congress — and a country full of trolls — thought otherwise, there’d finally be room for true representation in this government.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:01 pmhoward, I have had much worse things happen than someone poke me in the eye. Like my Norwegian ancestors I saw red with the other eye and exacted retribution. I speak of my own life now about the “pundint,” she spews out hate period. The head of the Right, King George, says nothing to the sad sacks that spew the hate and is just as responsible by letting it happen. Besides Dick Cheny whom do you think spreads the lie about the 9/11 Iraq connection. They should all be held to a higher standard.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:08 pmj lewd you are on the money
June 27th, 2007 at 5:11 pmWhere in little George from, anyone know?
June 27th, 2007 at 5:11 pmI will tell you that even though he was the gov. of Texas that is not where he is from or where he grew up. He just had a whole slew of failed buisness and political adventures there.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:16 pmSo FDR ran off to hide and his second, Howard Dean, has come to save the day. Is that your conclusion J. L.?
June 27th, 2007 at 5:21 pmQuiet room, howard must be researching his talking point memos to come up with something original
June 27th, 2007 at 5:24 pmLast time I got into a fight with a woman I let my Wife do the fighting. It was the better course of action and most times the woman comes out on top. Not because they are smarter, which they can be, but because a man fighting a woman is just wrong. So John Edwards did the right thing if he had anything to do with it. Elizabeth Edwards could have done this on her own too. The one thing aboutn a smart and strong woman is that they often, and rightly so, act on their own. My wife never has asked for my permission to do anything unless it was to me, and she will never have to ask my permission. Untill this reality is seen as good by the wack jobs on the far right then there will always be calls of weakness from the males and females of the right about men who do not follow their drum beat.
This has been a public service announcement to the dna challenged Howard Dean. I know it is hard to be the organ grinders monkey but Howard you can always aspire for greatness if you try.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:35 pmComment by J. Lewd — June 27, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
What makes these people assume everyone who disagrees with them is a Democrat or a Liberal?
We can always tell when those who disagree with us are liberal or Democrat: They usually stage mass demonstrations against our mere presence, like RNC Conventions. Or they’ll shout down our speakers, pie them in the face or rush the stage. Or they’ll pass speech codes to tamp down on our rights on campus, trash our newsletters or hold Stalinist show trials when we “offend” one of your tolerant, diverse, open-minded brethren.
If only “black/white” Christofascist righties were so tolerant and open-minded.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:39 pmhoward,
June 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pmyou little pre-pubecent puke, the reason some may refer to King George in the light of Hitler is because he took a horrible event and used it for his own goals, not the good of the country. He took a great country that was loved around the world by most and made it despised. He used fear to turn the uneducated and unexperienced fearful masses into xenophobic mob ready to kill every muslim in the world. All the while knowing the WMD that Sadam had were given to him by Casper Wienberger and Dick Cheney, I know my God-Father is a Kurd. Like Hitler’s Gestapo he uses inhanced interrogation meathods that he thinks can bypass the Geneva Convention. Like Adolf he removes the military leaders that don’t agreed with him. While I personally do not follow the comparison I do feel that Bush is just a hair shy of the despot.
Comment by James Reed — June 27, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
The head of the Right, King George, says nothing to the sad sacks that spew the hate and is just as responsible by letting it happen.
Oh, spare me James. Republicans have never uttered the kind of whack that often comes out of the mouth of Democrats, who never seem to be held to account for their rhetoric. And yet, you think Bush oughta stand up and try to control what Ann Coulter–a member of the media–says? If he tried to do that, you’d call him a nazi. Again.
For all of Bush’s faults, and they are many, he never makes the kind of personal attacks on those who attack him with the worst kind of vitriol. You guys are so filled with hatred of the guy that you just can’t see straight.
Besides Dick Cheny whom do you think spreads the lie about the 9/11 Iraq connection.
Will you get over that pathetic, trite lie, please? I’m really not in the mood to post all of the links to statements made by Democrats–before and after Bush came along–saying exactly the same things that Bush and Cheney have said.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:49 pmStep up to the plate howard, I am not stepping on your rights I am just countering your arguments with facts. Something the Bush administration and the far right can not deal with. By the way the country was founded by protesting citizens and the tories were the ones who wanted the status quo.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:50 pmagain you prove the absolute density of your thinking and processing abilities. Control A C no, Denounce her Yes.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:52 pmTrite lie, you are pathetic. There is no connection between 9/11 and Sadam’s Iraq, period. It now in clear that you are in a singular state of lying and believing the lies you tell yourself. There is a definite and verifiable connection between Cheny and Sadams WMD gas, however.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:55 pmyour ability not to argue the facts is not the mood it is just the simple fact that you are stupid
June 27th, 2007 at 6:00 pmyour delusional
June 27th, 2007 at 6:01 pmComment by James Reed — June 27, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
howard,
you little pre-pubecent puke, the reason some may refer to King George in the light of Hitler is because he took a horrible event and used it for his own goals, not the good of the country. He took a great country that was loved around the world by most and made it despised. He used fear to turn the uneducated and unexperienced fearful masses into xenophobic mob ready to kill every muslim in the world. All the while knowing the WMD that Sadam had were given to him by Casper Wienberger and Dick Cheney, I know my God-Father is a Kurd. Like Hitler’s Gestapo he uses inhanced interrogation meathods that he thinks can bypass the Geneva Convention. Like Adolf he removes the military leaders that don’t agreed with him. While I personally do not follow the comparison I do feel that Bush is just a hair shy of the despot.
All the while knowing the WMD that Sadam had were given to him by Casper Wienberger and Dick Cheney
Wha, wha, wha happen? I thought there WERE no WMDs? James, you’re growing.
That aside, your post is chock full of leftwing cliches: Hitler comparisons–you magnanimously left him a hair short of Hitler, though I’m sure Bush would bring back the gas chambers if he could; a self-serving leftwing superiority complex (people that don’t agree with me are stupid, ignorant, or uneducated), typical lies about the Geneva Conventions (they have never covered non-uniformed terrorists who are not signatories) and claims that Bush’s sole purpose for going into Iraq was political, despite the fact that the Clinton Administration said the same things about WMD, nuclear weapons and also advocated the same policy of regime change.
Otherwise, your post was spot on.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:07 pmH D , please don’t run off and copy and paste some talking points. If you are so gung ho then run off and join up, siemper fi. I took the oath to defent the constitution from all enemies forgein and domestic have you. Let us see how tough you really are, go sacrifice youself for the truths you see as self evident. In simple terms for a really simple mind, put up or shut up>
June 27th, 2007 at 6:07 pmagain you prove the absolute density of your thinking and processing abilities. Control A C no, Denounce her Yes.
Comment by James Reed — June 27, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Again, your maniacal focus on Coulter misses the big picture. What, is Bush responsible for responding to every harsh statement made by a conservative media pundit? These are not party leaders we’re talking about.
And besides which, Bush has heard far more harsh, grotesque comments directed at him by LEADERS OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. Have Hillary, Obama, Edwards or Kerry asked these people to tone it down?
When Republican leaders start making such comments (and they won’t, because they’re grownups), then I will admit you have a point. But until then, get over your Coulter-phobia.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:14 pmI can imagine the diminishing utility of posting here. One can’t deny that Ann Coulter inspires on some level. For instance, I can think of lots of ways she inspires — even begs for — personal attack on her character. Is it appropriate? I don’t know.
But we can say this. Somebody posting on a forum is a far cry from someone making the outrageous comments she makes as a faux journalist and pundit. There are right wing commentators and left wing commentators alike who have some usefulness. Ann Coulter is the antithesis of that.
Worse, to defend her is to diminish yourself. Especially when that defense rings of “Well the Democrats say bad stuff too.” What are you, a five-year old? We are each culpable for our own decisions, in isolation from what others do. And for one who chooses to be a public figure, we answer for those choices, actions, and comments to masses too.
If you’re a Democrat, you already despise Coulter. But if you’re a Republican and believe in your cause, you should despise her too. Perhaps more so. She’s not of your ranks. She’s merely exploiting you. Were she a leftist with that loud and divisive a voice, and attacks as vicious as she’s made her trademark but on the other side, this would be equally true.
Ann Coulter is not a celebration of free dialogue, thoughtful Democracy, and intelligent debate. She’s a dangerous threat to it. And yes, absolutely, she SHOULD be silenced — if only by consensus of a media that could choose to be responsible — for the good of both the left AND the right.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:15 pmTrite lie, you are pathetic. There is no connection between 9/11 and Sadam’s Iraq, period. It now in clear that you are in a singular state of lying and believing the lies you tell yourself. There is a definite and verifiable connection between Cheny and Sadams WMD gas, however.
Comment by James Reed — June 27, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Dude, you’re going off the deepend. Show me where I said there was a connection between 9/11 and Iraq?
June 27th, 2007 at 6:16 pmhoward, like most who are poorly prepaired to argue you put words in my mouth. I never said there were not any WMD, why do you think the military went in wearing suits, because the WMD that were known were provided by the Regan administration. Nice collection of talking points though.
P. S. just as your pooly prepaired and pathetic predecessor FDR you assume I am a left wing Democrat. Sadly for you and your predicessor I am just a well informed and highly educated citizen of this wonderful nation.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:20 pmLet’s see, poverty has increased every year Bush has been president, those without health insurance has increased each year, we have a giant defecit that wasn’t there when he took over, he has a net loss of private job creation since becoming president (first since Hoover) only to be partially off set by job growth in the governmental sector (some free marketer), has started a war that has killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, approaching 4,000 Americans and bankrupted the country, started as a result of outright lies (how you could attempt to argue against this beyond me, regardless of your political philosophy), has stonewalled every envrionmental measure he’s seen (and isolated us from the rest of the world as a result), has been in charge of a government that has lost BILLIONS (which dwarfts the Oil for Food Scandal all you idiot right wingers were shouting about a couple years ago) of tax payer dollars in Iraq in all likelihood gone to off shore tax shelters, was resposnsible for the disaster in Katrina (which even many on the right admit), amongst other things. Now why on Earth would anyone say anything bad about poor little George Bush. He’s a Republican! Anyone who points this out is a biased liberal. He’s a great president, insert your baseless mindless platitude as to why here:
June 27th, 2007 at 6:22 pmpost number 530
Besides Dick Cheny whom do you think spreads the lie about the 9/11 Iraq connection.
Will you get over that pathetic, trite lie, please?
well I suppose the second sentence is not yours and that you really are not Howard Dean. I suppose that the trite lie you refer to is your ability to think. Or mabey the list can go on and on and…….
June 27th, 2007 at 6:24 pmI have been wondering for several years now if, perhaps, Ann Coulter may be mentally ill. My questions are now answered. I used to think she was the radical diva of the hysterical right. Now I see she’s the hysterical diva of the radical right. Peace be with her and may she find help soon before her hatefulness speads further.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:27 pmIf I have gone off the deep end it is to save you from drowning, since you are about to submerge for the third time.
John F. good point and well written
June 27th, 2007 at 6:27 pmI keep thinking about AC her hate spewing.
The REAL problem is not AC, but any media who puts her on. They are denigrating Americans each time they do so. They are drawing us down into a cesspool with this weird, money seeking, attention grabbing creature.
It is just one more instance of how Corporate power (in this instance the media mega corporate) is destroying our human values and our poor small Earth,,, by running amuk in the pursuit of greed. The contanimation has enveloped too many of our politicians, Cheney OIL/Haliburton and our Supreme Court justices put forth & approved by the aforementioned. Poor slobbering grinning little bush….he was the inariculate and unintelligent, but likeable for many, pawn for all of this.
This is not my America. This is not what I want for my grandchildren.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:32 pmComment by John F. — June 27, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
But we can say this. Somebody posting on a forum is a far cry from someone making the outrageous comments she makes as a faux journalist and pundit. There are right wing commentators and left wing commentators alike who have some usefulness. Ann Coulter is the antithesis of that. Worse, to defend her is to diminish yourself.
Who’s defending her? I’m not calling on posters to denounce anybody. I’m only reacting to what I see as an utter hypocrisy in the left, demanding that she be upbraided by Bush, while acquiesing in the far more extreme comments made by people who are actually in the leadership of the party they belong to.
I see Ann Coulter on a similar level to Barbra Streisand, but without the kooky conspiracy theories and limosine liberal arrogance. But I don’t see anybody here calling on Ted Kennedy to lecture her about her mouth. And, by the way, I’m not saying they should.
Especially when that defense rings of “Well the Democrats say bad stuff too.†What are you, a five-year old?
Dude, I’M NOT THE ONE DEMANDING THAT A SPEAKER BE SILENCED. That’s what lefties and their “Fairness” Doctrine proponents do. Again, I am merely pointing out the irony of a bunch of people who get bent of out shape about some political pundit, but seem not to have noticed that the leaders of their own party are far more strident and extreme.
I don’t want Dean, Durbin, Kennedy, et al silenced. I want them to keep yapping so the whole country can see who and what they are.
If you’re a Democrat, you already despise Coulter. But if you’re a Republican and believe in your cause, you should despise her too. Perhaps more so.
Should you despise Dean, Kennedy, Durbin, McDermott, Waters, Streisand, Michael Moore, et al? If not, why not?
She’s not of your ranks. She’s merely exploiting you.
There’s only so much liberal condescension I can take in one day.
Ann Coulter is not a celebration of free dialogue, thoughtful Democracy, and intelligent debate. She’s a dangerous threat to it.
A “dangerous threat to intelligent debate”?
Hyperbole. She’s one of many, some of whom are worse and some of whom are not. But none of them would I consider “dangerous.”
See, you’re the one calling for silencing speakers, not me. Please, try not to misconstrue that point anymore.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:38 pmEvergreen,
I can hear howard puking right now, Greed is a good trait don’t you know. Just ask the Far Right who don’t stray from the teaching of our savior Jesus Christ. The seven deadly sins are charity, compassion for the poor, empathy, peace, sharing, honesty and love.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pmHoward you little souless child one day life will come bite you in the ass and then your right wing frinds will just ignore you. If you don’t think this to be true just look at the poor Republican Congressman from Washington who was asking for more funding to the mental health system to help the depressed , the poor man’s son had killed him self suffering from chronic depression. His peer voted down his amendment to a rep. in the 109th congress. I saw his tearful plea on C-span
June 27th, 2007 at 6:46 pmpoor howard always the victim, please give me a break, you are far from the victim.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:48 pmwell it looks like Howard is off researching his talking points and trying to figure how to make them sound like original thought. So sad that he has not experienced enough of life to have his own experience be his guide.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:53 pmComment by yo — June 27, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
“Let’s see, poverty has increased every year Bush has been president”
Says who–the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, Noam Chomsky or Michael Moore?
“those without health insurance has increased each year”
Whose fault is that?
The evil insurance companies? Mean-spirited, greedy corporations who can’t afford the trial-lawyer-larded premiums?
“we have a giant defecit that wasn’t there when he took over”
The deficit is coming down dramatically. But I find this a bit ironic. It’s hard to argue that Bush hasn’t been a big spender, expanded the social safety hammock and expanded the reach of the federal government. But for that, you oughta love him! That’s what you all want, so it’s hilariosu to hear that complaint.
“he has a net loss of private job creation since becoming president”
It’s funny, when a Republican is president, the standard measuring sticks for a successful economy no longer apply. Even a freakin 4.5% unemployment rate (ie, full employment) isn’t good enough for you. Strong growth, low unemployment, low inflation, low interest rates, strong stock markets, reducing deficit. No, none of that matters. Instead, we’ll see if we can find statistics that proves that the economy really sux! Good luck.
“governmental sector (some free marketer), has started a war that has killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, approaching 4,000 Americans and bankrupted the country, started as a result of outright lies”
About those lies… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64
“has stonewalled every envrionmental measure he’s seen”
And who can doubt the sincerity and honesty of the environmental movement?
“and isolated us from the rest of the world as a result”
The rest of the world is electing conservative politicians, kicking out the so-called “isolated” socialist leaders.
“has been in charge of a government that has lost BILLIONS”
Not sure what this is in reference to. Maybe the miserably failed “war on poverty.”
“was resposnsible for the disaster in Katrina”
Yeah, after Clinton left the area with that comprehensive hurricane plan, Bush ruined it all. Blew them up with the levees. He also probably stuffed the ballot box for Ray Nagin.
“He’s a great president,”
He sucks actually. Spends far too much, passed campaign finance reforms attacking the First Amendment, expanded the welfare state and is now agitating for that hideous amnesty bill.
For those reasons alone, you oughta love the guy.
“insert your baseless mindless platitude as to why here:”
Hmmm, mindless platitude… let’s see, OH — got one!
BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!
June 27th, 2007 at 6:57 pmWell it looks like Howard is off researching his talking points and trying to figure how to make them sound like original thought. So sad that he has not experienced enough of life to have his own experience be his guide.
Comment by James Reed — June 27, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Please. I’m still waiting for you to come up with an original, coherent thought to respond to. Wake me up when you do.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:59 pmCan we at least agree here that the radical right is out of ideas, and that the ones they had have all failed? Can we all at least agree to that simple, truism?
June 27th, 2007 at 7:00 pm“Howard Dean”:
You know less about me than you apparently know about yourself. I am neither Democrat nor Liberal, but because I don’t bobble my head in unison to everything you say, you immediately place me in those camps. Since you’re so unwilling to talk substantively about the vitriole Ann Coulter spews, I can only assume that, hiding behind the name of a Democrat, you are in fact Ann Coulter.
Which makes perfect sense now. Like Ann Coulter, your purpose is to marginalize variant and rational thought, to thereby stifle nonconsent. By making a straw Democrat Liberal out of your detractors, you find them easier to burn. Don’t assume you know everything, or even ANYTHING for that matter — other than the talking points your Constitution-raping masters have given you.
As for “Control A C no, Denounce her Yes,” what do you think is the purpose of Think Progress? You and your coworker (FDR) however seem to have a different take on free speech. As a result, the two of you are the main reason this thread veers offtrack, which is no doubt your paid purpose. I remind you (or more like educate you): the majority of the mainstream mass media resides in the hands of personal agenda-driven people like Rupert Murdercoch. Consequently, the only voice the people have is the Internet, which of course, Hitlerean forces like you, your beloved RNC, and the megacorporations that feed control down through the food chain to you wish to silence, or at the very least distort. In broadcast terms, this is called signal to noise. Guess which role you play?
A brief aside: In Cheney’s office, utilizing pundits like you to attack and distract the thinking masses is a form of “reaching down,” as in reaching down to the little people in the party — little people like you, “Howard Dean”. This is what your party thinks of you; and in this instance, I’d have to agree with their assessment of your role.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:03 pmles Izmore
Yes
Looks like howard is dumb founded and still can not explain the reasons for Iraq
The reason for Tax cuts during a war
the reason for illegal wire taps
the reason for hiding behind an name that is not his
or why he feels the need to carry toilet water for the right
June 27th, 2007 at 7:07 pmBTW, HD. When does your shift end and who’s up next?
June 27th, 2007 at 7:07 pmIn all fairness, I find that Miss Coulter is just plain rude to people who do not agree with her point of view or with the way she chooses to express them. Personal attacks are out of order in the political process as Mrs. Edwards clearly pointed out. Ann Coulter has set herself up to be the darling of the conservative wing. In fact, she is just another bigmouth who’s not willing to listen to others.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:10 pmJ lewd , I am not sure but I think you just placed me in the same room with Ann aka Howard. Is this so.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:16 pmmabey howard can come up with a reason the republicans of every stripe are abandoning the party as it is right now, in droves.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:22 pmI don’t know anymore… Coulter is a shrill partisan… big surprise. I don’t blame Elizabeth Edwards for wanting a chance to be human for a moment. What surprises me anymore is all of our reactions to this garbage.
Bottom line is that negative and attacking words hurt someone. Someone responded by saying stop it.
But in context to this arena and this type of platform? Are you kidding me? I just don’t know how anyone can seriously give any of these people from either side credibility. Any democrat asking for any conservative to stop being mean is like the owner of a Toy-R-Us telling a parent to stop letting their kids run amok in their store. Have any of you that defend liberalism (in this context) EVER listened to Air America? Especially in the evenings? What’s the difference between that garbage and the hard bound editions of Coulter’s garbage? Is it that you just don’t want to see it?
While we all sit around peeing our pants about who can control the most words in the media, Congress has been raping the US for hundreds of billions in earmarks, we have a massively failed Administration, a bunch of pandering losers who promised to reshape the earth once they won the power back…
And no, Edwards NEVER played upon is life circumstances to gain political clout. It does not give Coulter a pass to denigrate this further, but it’s POLITICS my friends.. party and power over all else.
I can’t say I have a major earth shattering point here, but I think in all honesty, any of us who have an ideology or political/life philosophy are on our own -. Nobody with half a brain could look at either party of this great U.S. and shout with joy. They prepared a place under the bus for us years ago, and we thanked them for thinking of us.
We have the media we deserve. The politicians knew that for a long time, sound bytes made the issues. They planned out their words for quick media consumption and we get what we get. Ugly, hateful children fighting furiously in the Toys-R-Us to control who gets to use the right words.
At least we can all blog, from around the world, and communicate with each other. They hate that and even Ternt Snott wants to end the national free speech to control the word flow.
stop being so loyal to a party. We have all been abandoned years ago. They let us be pissed at Rosie and Coulter so the dirty work can be done in private.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:25 pm…But of course, Hillary didn’t KNOW she was voting for the dirty work, right? We all believe her naturally… That’s what the words say…
James Reed:
A little confused by your comment. Do you mean “hiding behind the name of a Democrat”? If so, I wasn’t aware that James Reed, former nose tackle for KC Chiefs and NY Jets, was a Democrat.
As for putting you in the same room with them, the only reason I would put you in a room with AC/HD or FDR is that I think you’d hold your own well with any or either of them.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:31 pmJ lewd, while the conversations may take a turn from the original thread they are all connected. I did answer the original thread somewhere earlier around post #527
June 27th, 2007 at 7:37 pmJ lewd,
My name is James Reed, it was my fathers name too. I appreciate the compliment, and I do think that leaders should denounce the speach of their pundints if those same said mouths speak such vile words both left and right. I have never been one to hide behind anything unless there was lead in the air.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:40 pmJames Reed:
Just reread #527. You did answer the original thread and my intention wasn’t to bunk you with the other strange bedfellows. Your thoughts suggest an independent thought process — one that clears you of any ignominious affiliation with HD, AC, or FDR. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:47 pmJames Reed:
I admire your courage: “I have never been one to hide behind anything unless there was lead in the air.”
I, on the other hand, prefer the pseudonym for numerous reasons, but lately for one above the rest.
In an era where habeas corpus has been gutted; torture is permissible interrogation; illegal, unmonitored wiretaps are du jour; and dissent is condemned as treason, lead can sometimes be the least of a person’s worries.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:57 pmapology taken in ernest
June 27th, 2007 at 7:58 pmMy heart was racing when I viewed this and my face is burning. Ann Coulter is precisely why I have to prescribe myself media fasts. I less than rarely would consider using the “C” word to describe a person, but Ann deserves a label worse than that. She is trash and a devil. Elizabeth Edwards, on the other hand, is classy and calm. I couldn’t have been that cool! I’d have blood lust for that right wing Botox-having ho. She had nothing intelligent to offer back to Mrs. Edwards. “Okay I’ll stop writing books.” Good come back. Almost as good as the hair flipping and hiding behind the dark glasses. What makes me sick is that there are plenty of people who thinks her behavior is acceptable and edgy. Ugh. Go, Liz! You ROCK!!!! Ann: get bent.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:01 pmI suppose AC would love John Edwards if he were a conservative Republican Lawyer that earned his millions screwing over the public and getting paid by big corporations, sort of like the GOP does today.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:04 pmj lewd,
very true, I feel that is when one should speak the loudest and be the most open about issues. Our founding fathers spoke is secret at clandestine meetings but were well known for their positions. The secret meeting were to plan a revolution, a bloody violent one and the time for that has not come. A more worrisome fear to me is if an employer were to discover the views of an employee and take action against the individual. Given the recent supreme court decision on Bong hits 4 Jesus, I can see some right wing nut job trying to take that particular avenue. A situation I don’t fear because I don’t work for anyone.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:07 pmLooks like I really got under FDR’s skin, too bad, so sad. Probably because we both lived through the same shit and I came out happy.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:11 pmas for Ann C. well her mouth is her own problem, she is in the minority and always will be. Elizabeth E. is a prime example of how to deal with people like A C, as my southern baptist grandmother would say kill them with kindness
June 27th, 2007 at 8:17 pmOk, you win. You are just not interested in serious communication no matter which side you are on.
Serious off.
Boo Hoo. Your conclusions are designed to bother me. Sigh…
Comment by Merlin — June 27, 2007 @ 2:20 am
That’s not the most graceful exit from an indefensible position, but it’ll do I suppose. ;)
June 27th, 2007 at 8:17 pmI must now go eat french fries, french toast and, french kiss my wife.
Here is one big cheer for freedom!!!!!!!!!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 8:18 pmActually, James Reed, I think the RNC only runs two shifts, which is why we haven’t heard from yin and yin in awhile. But you probably did get under HD’s skin — for which, I commend you.
Funny you should mention the employer/employee scenario. I was fired once from a job at a communications corporation call center in the Midwest for not meeting corporate expectations. Coincidentally, this all took place at the same time as the ramp up to the second Iraq War.
At this large comm. corp. call center, every breakroom television was tuned to Fox Noise. When I went to lunch one day and saw no one was watching, I switched the channel. Later, I was verbally reprimanded by my supervisor and told I was not at liberty to do so. Apparently, one of my coworkers had seen me do this and reported me to management. (Sounds a bit like “1984″, doesn’t it?)
Next day, when I went on break and once again saw no one watching Fox Noise, I turned the TV off. Once again, I was called into my supervisor’s office and this time, more severely reprimanded. I was told the televisions were to remain on and to remain on Fox.
Less than a week later, I was informed by my supervisor that I wasn’t meeting corporate expectations and I was free to go. Now, this may all be coincidence, but I have my doubts. I was one of the last of a class of 30 trainees to be fired.
This is how corporations reward individual thought: with a pink diploma.
You are indeed lucky that you don’t work for anyone.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:38 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — June 27, 2007 @ 2:23 am
Anus! I presume you’ve had time to calm yourself since your response. You can always be counted on to raise the level of discourse just like Coulter. ;)
June 27th, 2007 at 8:55 pmAgain, I’m sorry I can’t return these compliments about phenominal levels of brain activity.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:01 pmAs for humor, the “I Feel Pretty†thing with Edwards might have been a wee bit amusing prior to Ann-thrax’s unfounded accusation of him as a “fag.†Post-Ann slander, it is no longer amusing.
As far as political humor goes, it might surprise you to learn that among my liberals/progressive friends, we sometimes exchange jokes not only about Republicans and the Christian right but also about Clinton (whose character does lend itself to joking) and other Dems
Comment by Lora — June 27, 2007 @ 7:35 am
So once someone calls a person a fag, that person is forever exempt from having jokes made about them when they do foolish things? I don’t think he’s gay, but I think he made a ridiculous decision to pay 400.00 for a haircut. Does 400.00 for a haircut not seem more than a little unreasonable to ya? The thought of the video having anything to do with the gay reference never occurred to me. It was just the fact that he was combing the hair that requires a 400.00 coiffure.
Does this “…we sometimes exchange jokes not only about Republicans and the Christian right…” extend beyond Falwell and Dobson since you only have a problem with the fundamentalists and not Christians in general? ;)
June 27th, 2007 at 9:13 pmCan we at least agree here that the radical right is out of ideas, and that the ones they had have all failed? Can we all at least agree to that simple, truism?
Comment by Les Izmor — June 27, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Out of ideas? Which ideas are those? Increasing federal spending? Expanding social spending? Amnesty? Restricting speech?
Those are all tired, wornout Democrat ideas, and the primary reason Bush is polling in the 20s.
As far as new ideas, when has the left ever come up with any new ideas besides more socialism? Which, by the way, is as old as man itself, and has proven to be a failure time and time again.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:15 pmComment by J. Lewd — June 27, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
Like Ann Coulter, your purpose is to marginalize variant and rational thought, to thereby stifle nonconsent.
Rational? I’m sure it seems rational to you.
Don’t assume you know everything, or even ANYTHING for that matter — other than the talking points your Constitution-raping masters have given you.
Constitution-raping masters?
Tell me, genius, who is it who constantly tears away at our First Amendment right to criticize politicians? Who is it always trying to restrict gun ownership? Which faction of the court just destroyed the concept of private property rights? Who is it using the notion of equal rights to demand equal outcomes and race- and color-based hiring and admissions? Who is it that doesn’t believe in federalism, but in an all powerful government that takes away the sovereignty of states and their right to self-determination?
Clueless dope. Look in the mirror. You sit there with a bucktoothed grin on your face as the government takes away more and more of your freedoms and liberties, and all you can do is focus your deranged ire on a President whose only sin is aggressively defending the country.
I see lots of whining on this site about intercepting enemy communications, tracking enemy financial transactions, aggressively interrogating terror suspects, and all the rest of it.
This may shock you, but normal people WANT the government to do this. But the wackos here try to turn each and every effort into a scandal. And they will be the first to whine “why didn’t Bush do anything” when we get hit again.
You and your coworker (FDR) however seem to have a different take on free speech.
Yes, I think we have a very different take. FDR and I think that the government has no business trying to regulate political speech or silence conservative talk radio by artificially propping up failed leftwing talk radio with the Orwellian named “Fairness” Doctrine.
I remind you (or more like educate you)
Please, educate me, oh great one.
the majority of the mainstream mass media resides in the hands of personal agenda-driven people like Rupert Murdercoch. Consequently, the only voice the people have is the Internet, which of course, Hitlerean forces like you, your beloved RNC, and the megacorporations that feed control down through the food chain to you wish to silence, or at the very least distort. In broadcast terms, this is called signal to noise. Guess which role you play?
Wow, that WAS educational.
First of all, the Internet is not the only voice. There’s talk radio. At least there is for conservatives, after Air America tanked. At least for the moment, anyway, until the Stalinists in Congress get their hands on it.
And ahhhh yes, the obligatory reference to Hitler. Can’t let a post go without one of those.
Tell me, great one, who is it that’s just ITCHING to regulate the Internet? Tell me, great keeper of the food chain, who is it in this country trying to use the force of government to shut down a point of view they don’t like? Who is it using government to silence citizens who want to petition their government? Who is it who just determined that the government can seize your home to build condos? Who is it instituting speech codes on college campus, and holding Stailinst show trials, aimed at a particular point of view? Who is it telling people what kind of cards they should drive? Who is it telling us what kind of lightbulbs we can use? How much water we can put in our toilets? What kind of baseball bats we can use?
And yet, there you are, calling others fascist.
Typical.
the megacorporations that feed control down through the food chain
Jesus, lose the Chomsky-esque claptrap. It’s tiresome.
A brief aside: In Cheney’s office, utilizing pundits like you to attack and distract the thinking masses is a form of “reaching down,†as in reaching down to the little people in the party — little people like you, “Howard Deanâ€. This is what your party thinks of you; and in this instance, I’d have to agree with their assessment of your role.
Oh, but they can’t fool you, can they?
And there it is–the typical condescending attitude of a lefty–”if you don’t agree with me, it’s because you’re ignorant or uneducated.” It’s the trump card you smug jerks ALWAYS play when to try to pass yourselves off as superior, especially when you can’t win on the merits. It drips out of you and those on this board. It’s clearly a genetic defect common in “progressives.”
But you just keep on telling yourself how much better you are, since it seems to make you feel better.
You know less about me than you apparently know about yourself.
No, I know you like a book.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:15 pmCoulter is truly sick. Why is she able to get away with this, and other things she has said? She is a skinny, horse-faced reject. Can’t someone shut her up? Is she THAT powerful?
June 27th, 2007 at 11:21 pmDid she just say something about bankrupt doctors?? This lady doesn’t make any sense!! Ohhh those poor doctors have to use couch change to fill up their Bimmer X5’s… Life is rough for those doctors!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 11:40 pmHoward Dean…..Tell me, why do you, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Cheney, and so many other Right Wingers Hate so much?
You might do better to go to FreeRepublic where Lefties, Liberals, and Libertarians are not not allowed, and the Hatred is Rampant.
Is the purpose of your game to simply do something behind your computer screen you would never do to someone in person?
Are you a Christian? Jesus preached understanding, not hatred. Ann Coulter claims to be a Christian. Is she follwing the teachings of Jesus?
Are you a true Conservative that would never want the government to be so massive and frightening as the Bush administration?
Also, it was Republicans that ordered gun confications during Katrina in New Orleans, not Democrats.
So, in essence, do you want to teach us here, or beat us with a pre-emptive stick?
June 27th, 2007 at 11:41 pmSee #579
June 28th, 2007 at 12:09 amKarl – thank you ever so much for exemplifying my point so clearly. You failed to show any new, successul or realistic ideas coming from the right. Yet, you are long on criticism of successful programs that have been born out of progressive ideas. In typical rightist fashion, you find it necessary to destroy that which you cannot claim credit for. Thank you for helping me out. By the way, damn right the liberals have increased federal spending RESPONSIBLY – which gave us such assets public education, national parks, Medicare and an incredibly successful social security system. Now I’m no leftie, but I’m curious what other successful progressive programs you want to bash.
What a hater!
June 28th, 2007 at 12:32 amAgain, I’m sorry I can’t return these compliments about phenominal(SIC) levels of brain activity.
Comment by Kilo
Of course, you can’t since you don’t even know how to spell “phenomenal.”
June 28th, 2007 at 1:49 am阿呆ï¼
I don’t think he’s gay, but I think he made a ridiculous decision to pay 400.00 for a haircut. Does 400.00 for a haircut not seem more than a little unreasonable to ya? The thought of the video having anything to do with the gay reference never occurred to me. It was just the fact that he was combing the hair that requires a 400.00 coiffure.
Does this “…we sometimes exchange jokes not only about Republicans and the Christian right…†extend beyond Falwell and Dobson since you only have a problem with the fundamentalists and not Christians in general? ;)
Comment by upright left —
Yes, I think $400.00 is a lot for a haircut, and it’s not a price I’d be willing to pay. But what John Edwards pays for a haircut is no more of my business than what Laura Bush paid for the red Oscar de La Renta dress she and two or three other women wore to some function at the WH months ago. (Laura apparently went upstairs and changed garments after seeing the other women in the same dress.) I do know that Oscar de la Renta dresses are not cheap. Also, I think the media and the general public should pay more attention to what John Edwards has to say than what he pays for a haircut. (And this doesn’t mean I’m supporting him–just that I am more interested in hearing the policies he proposes than in his haircut.)
June 28th, 2007 at 2:06 amMy point about joking is that I’ve laughed at and passed on some jokes about Clinton, etc. Do you really need or want all the details about the jokes I’ve engaged in? I recall having some laughs over Falwell’s complaint that the Teletubbies were promoting homosexuality, and every other time some fundamentalist-type finds something subversive about fairly innocent programs, books for children, such as trying to ban Harry Potter. Is that enough for you?
Ps. Upright
June 28th, 2007 at 3:00 amIn my own family, my Democrat father went to church regularly; my Republican stepfather was an atheist who hated organized religion. I realize this may not be a typical situation. My stepfather was already starting to turn away from the G(reedy)O(ld)P(erverts) before he died. I’m sure he wouldn’t be Republican if he were still alive today–not just because of its pandering to the Christian wrong but also because he was a Teddy Roosevelt-type conservationist as well as chemist who wouldn’t like current GOP anti-science stance and who believed that the government should stay out of consenting adults’ bedrooms.
Finally, I have always had considerable admiration for Christians like Mother Teresa and Bishop Tutu who use their religion to do good works–the true work of God, unlike the tele-evangelics who seem mainly interested in money and spreading intolerance.
Why oh WHY does this anorexic harpie still have a platform?
It sure reminds me of how the Reagan era Supreme Court(?) judged porn -
“I KNOW insane when I SEE insane….”
June 28th, 2007 at 3:05 amDear Folks:
Mrs. Edwards was courageous in confronting Ms. Coulter`s hate monging style.
But one thing I failed to notice in any of the comments is this:
It has been my experience that pugnacious, bad mouthed broads who are sexually attracted to a married man they cannot have tend to be extremely denigrating to the man.
So for a “conservative”, we see Ms. Coulter directly violating the 8th commandment of “thou shallt not bear false witness” by calling John a faggot, and then violating the 5th commandment of “thou shallt not kill” by expressing her sick death wish for him.
Both violations of the ten commandments are probably related to Ms. Coulter`s own secret, “political groupy” “crush” on a handsome, smart U.S. politician. That is, her other comments expose her own adulterous, “political groupy” desires for John – in violation of the 6th commandment – “Thou shallt not commit adultery”, and then
the 9th commandment: “Thou shallt not covet thy neighbour`s husband.”
which she most obviously does. Anne Coulter`s problem is that she can`t get what Elizabeth Edwards has – a sane and happy married life with
a decent man.
As for myself, I do have a wise and loving liberal female consort, and am very happy to be with her. I could not possibly consciously fantasize about even a one night stand with a “nasty, narcissistic, neo-con bitch who never grew out of sophomoric, pugnacious c-worded, puberty” like Anne Coulter even if one were strapped to my stomach and I were given an overdose of viagra.
Thank God the Creator every day that I am not married to a neo-con. Anne Coulter….. God permits evil due to free will. She choses to be a devil by abuse of her own free will as a perceived shortcut to power, possession and political influence. But in the end, she will grow up, old ugly, despicable, and despised…. and enter the life hereafter to join
those of her own ilk. Like attracts like.
She seems to be a very miserable human being. But she chose her own misery. Let her wallow in it.
As for the “progressives”. Please do not let the shadow self of a sick and vicious Anne Coulter draw out the shadow selves of yourselves. We have an election to win for John Edwards in 2008.
Old Fashioned Lincolnite Liberal.
June 28th, 2007 at 6:28 amComment by Lora — June 28, 2007 @ 2:06 am
Edwards absolutely has the right to pay whatever he chooses for a haircut and people have a right to make “I’m So Pretty” videos to point out the foolishness of it. I never said one word about his ability to be president. All I said was that the video was funny. I guess ya see no parallel between your thinking that video is saying Edwards is gay and this comment “…and every other time some fundamentalist-type finds something subversive about fairly innocent programs…”
June 28th, 2007 at 8:19 amI agree with your stepfather that the government should stay out of people’s bedrooms. I also believe that the majority has a right to make laws regarding what constitutes a marriage. I, and a lot of other people, would have been conservative Democrats in the days before special interests were allowed to hijack the party. The farther left the party moves, the farther right everyone else seems even though they haven’t changed. ;)
upright
June 28th, 2007 at 8:26 amFor the record, I never said you had no right to make such videos. But I have the right to think they are not funny, right? For the record, I also haven’t made any comments on this thread or the other one about Ann-thrax about gay marriage, so don’t make any assumptions about me.
Special interests have also hijacked the Republican Party: the religious right, big pharma, oil companies, etc.
That was I, Lora, posting in #591. I forgot to change a name one of my family members sometimes uses on this blog.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:32 amI have never read an Ann Coulter book. I don’t care for pulp fiction. But it does surprise me that there is a reference in her book to Hillary Clinton’s “chubby legs.” Ann, you must surely have lost all touch with reality – to make such a comment about another woman’s body when you yourself look like a walking cadaver?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:57 amCoulter is never fearfull in attacking. It’s time the news people started asking her in the same manner. Like: her stand, she says on abortion. With her reputation for sleeping around, i’m sure there must have been one at some time.Ask her how many!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:15 amShould a women that has legs like a stick, be commenting on another womens legs? Should a women that when standing sideways, with hr tongue sticking out looks like a zipper, be commenting on another? Then we have her very large adams apple. Has anyone ever asked her where her surgery was(man to women)
To Karen,
June 28th, 2007 at 9:35 amI can’t recall the name of the woman right now, but there is one active in the anti-abortion forces who had three of them–before she found religion, of course.
I also couldn’t agree with you more about Ann-thrax’s legs. They are like shapeless poles; I can’t understand why she is always flaunting them so much with skirts that barely cover her crotch. Considering her big Adam’s apple, I sometimes wonder if she is even daring us to look up at her crotch with those minis that barely cover it.
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — June 27, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
Howard Dean…..Tell me, why do you, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Cheney, and so many other Right Wingers Hate so much?
You lefties have become so comfortable and smug in your own self-righteousness that throwing out the “hate” speech line, in order to demonstrate your moral superiority, is second nature.
Putting aside Coulter (for the moment), show me the “hateful” statements of Limbaugh and Cheney. And when you find your best examples, put them side by side with those of high-profile leftwingers and tell me what you find.
Will you find Cheney, or Limbaugh for that matter, comparing politicians or soldiers to Nazis? No, you will not. Will you find Cheney or Limbaugh suggesting that Democrat politicians are responsible for the dragging death of James Byrd, a black man? Nope. Will you hear Limbaugh or Cheney referring to Democrat political leaders as “Brown shirts”? Will you find Cheney or Limbaugh referring to blacks they disagree with as “Uncle Toms?” Sorry, no.
However, you WILL find a slew of high-ranking Democrat officials doing that, and worse. Howard Dean, Charles Rangel, Al Gore, Jim McDermott, the despicable Charles Barron (how long do you think the liberal media would tolerate a Republican Charles Barron?), and a whole bunch of others. Is this the behavior of statesmen, people who are normally expected to be held to a higher standard? No, it’s the behavior of spoiled children who can’t handle it when they don’t get their way.
As for Coulter, she does herself no favors by making stupid comments like she does. She KNOWS she’s hated by the leftwing establishment and she only makes it easier for them to dismiss her when she makes legitimate arguments (which she often does, and that’s the REAL reason she’s hated among the left).
On the other hand, for the umpteenth time, Coulter–and Limbaugh, for that matter–are just political pundits–not the leaders of a party who are expected to be held to a higher standard. That you can’t see the distinction, or refuse to acknowledge it, is revealing.
But how is what Coulter does any different from what, say, Al Franken, Barbra Streisand and Rosie O’Donnell do? Answer: While Coulter earns the wrath of the liberal media establishment, O’Donnell wins multi-million dollar contracts from the networks. Figure out for yourself why that is.
You might do better to go to FreeRepublic where Lefties, Liberals, and Libertarians are not not allowed, and the Hatred is Rampant.
Lemme give you a REAL example of “hate” speech. Try this one out: “I hate Republicans and everything they stand for.” Sounds like the very DEFINITION of “hate” to me. Can you tell me who said it?
Are you a true Conservative that would never want the government to be so massive and frightening as the Bush administration?
What a vapid statement. I don’t want the government to be massive, period. And I despise what Bush has done: Increased spending an at outrageous rate, expanded the welfare state, signed McCain-Feingold (expecting the Supreme Court to clean up the mess, which it didn’t), and now this grotesque amnesty bill. Take away his strong economic policies, Roberts and Alito, and it may as well have been Ted Kennedy’s agenda. In fact, it IS Ted Kennedy’s agenda. Heck, it’s a wonder YOU don’t love the guy, given that track record.
As for “frightening,” what frightens me are people who have shit all over the Bill of Rights and would toss them in the garbage if they had the chance. People who want to determine how I should live, what I can say, who constantly pick my pockets because they think they know how to spend my money better than I do–and constantly demand more, people who want to punish my thoughts if they don’t fall into line with what they deem appropriate. In short, people who want to give the government total control over the lives of the citizens of this country.
All for the good of, the people, of course.
Also, it was Republicans that ordered gun confications during Katrina in New Orleans, not Democrats.
Are you really that dense that you can’t see the distinction between taking such an action in a chaotic emergency and attempts to do away with the Second Amendment altogether?
So, in essence, do you want to teach us here, or beat us with a pre-emptive stick?
“Teach” you? No, more like hold up a mirror in front of your hypocritical faces. You’re so obsessed with hatred for–and a maniacal desire to discredit–a woman who frequently pokes you in the eye (with the harsh truth) that you’re blind to, or simply dismiss, far worse behavior right in your own backyard, by people who are supposed to know better.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:11 amFor the record, I also haven’t made any comments on this thread or the other one about Ann-thrax about gay marriage, so don’t make any assumptions about me.
Special interests have also hijacked the Republican Party: the religious right, big pharma, oil companies, etc.
Comment by President Bush 43 — June 28, 2007 @ 8:26 am
Lora, sometimes it seems like we aren’t even reading the same posts. I made no assumptions, I was simply responding to the posts about the govt. in people’s bedrooms. But I have neither the time nor the desire for explanation and I don’t think it would get us anywhere anyway. By the way, the GOP being the party of big business is nothing new. The Democratic party taking a hard left and leaving average folks, it’s base for years, behind is relatively recent.
June 28th, 2007 at 2:49 pmMy goodness, yet another controversy surrounding Anne Coulter. She certainly does create a carnival like atmosphere to make her point (if there is any point). She loves it, that’s what she does best. I suspect she is an extremely intelligent individual, but one would never detect that from her extremely unattractive characertizations of those who do not agree with her politics. She’s simply a dancing seal balancing a ball on her nose. Entertainment only. It’s the candidates we should be paying attention to because one of them will be President. Ms. Coulter will never be anything more than a performer, a very well paid one at that. Kudos to the clown.
June 28th, 2007 at 3:39 pmI’m just glad that we can all rest easy knowing that democrats have never been affiliated with a successful business or corporation. It bring such peace to all of our hearts to have that fact remain as a bookmark against the singular corruption that solely remains in the courts of the GOP. Why, if the Dems were to ever fall prey to the power of corporate money, what would that mean for all the loyal defenders of the party? That is just not allowed….
June 28th, 2007 at 3:46 pmNow, j lederman, isn’t that silly. Of course Dems have been part of very successful corporations, and do accept corporate money. However, historically BIG BIG businesses, oil, energy, etc. have supported the Republicans. These are the industries that affect us ALL. These conglomerates know they’ll get something in return, don’t they?
June 28th, 2007 at 3:55 pmHi Leslie
do you think it’s in any BIG or small corporations interest to ignore anyone? They support whoever has the power. How much did Terry Mcaullif make off of Global Crossings? Are there any Democrats who have served, aided or own stock in Haliburton? Who’s candidacy has Shell or Exxon contributed to?
I think we need to be honest enough to admit that both parties have plenty of equal felony and theft to share around.
Did Bush force the halt of refinery construction?
Anyway, Coulter is still a nasty person. So many poisoned great ideas and issues.
June 28th, 2007 at 5:14 pmAs for Coulter, she does herself no favors by making stupid comments like she does. She KNOWS she’s hated by the leftwing establishment and she only makes it easier for them to dismiss her when she makes legitimate arguments (which she often does, and that’s the REAL reason she’s hated among the left).
Comment by Howard the Duck
I don’t have the time to take on everything you write. I am open-minded enough to accept the possibility that Ann Coulter has made a legitimate argument at some point, but I frankly have never heard one. The first time I ever saw her on TV, she was defending the very discredited Joseph McCarthy, and it’s been downhill ever since then.
June 28th, 2007 at 5:51 pmFinally, Howard Dean-wannabe, why don’t you stop hijacking the names of Democrats? Too chicken to post as a good Republican like Tom Delay, Darrell Issa, or Bob Ney, eh?
Ann Coulter is sheer unadulterated evil. Ugly. Repulsive. Reprehensible. What is wrong with Chris Matthews? Why does he give this disgusting witch a platform? Somewhere, a school yard is missing their bully…
June 28th, 2007 at 9:51 pmFinally, Howard Dean-wannabe, why don’t you stop hijacking the names of Democrats? Too chicken to post as a good Republican like Tom Delay, Darrell Issa, or Bob Ney
Well, see the article was about “personal attacks” by high-profile people — who’s a better authority on that than Howard Dean?
On the other hand, if the subject was about corruption, then I might have chosen a different name, say, like Bill or Hillary Clinton, Sandy Burglar or William Jefferson, to name a few.
As for Ann Coulter, well, even I believed she had stepped over the line this time. But it turns out we were all mislead by the intentionally fraudulent way her remarks were taken out of context.
Here are the REAL facts…
THAT WAS NO LADY — THAT WAS MY HUSBAND
Ann Coulter
The Edwards campaign is apparently still running low on donations, so this week they went back to their top fundraiser: me.
I doubled the ratings of the lowest-rated cable news show on Tuesday by agreeing to go on for a full hour to promote my new paperback version of “Godless” — a mistake I won’t make again. As I was walking to the set, minutes before airtime, it was casually mentioned to me that Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, might call in.
For the first time in recorded history, the show’s host did not interrupt a guest, but let Elizabeth Edwards ramble on and on, allowing her to browbeat me for being mean to her husband. (This delicate flower is very sensitive to rough words, having hired the Edwards’ campaign staffer who wrote this: “What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit”?)
Say, did any TV host ever surprise Al Franken, Bill Maher or Arianna Huffington with a call by the wife of someone they’ve made nasty remarks about? How about a call to John Edwards from the wife of a doctor he bankrupted with his junk-science lawsuits?
I think I may have tuned out at some point, so I can only speak to the first 45 minutes of Elizabeth Edwards’ harangue, but it mostly consisted of utterly dishonest renditions of things I had said on my “Good Morning America” interview this week and a column I wrote four years ago. (You can’t rush Edwards’ “rapid response team”!) She claimed I had launched unprovoked attacks on the Edwards’ dead son and called for a terrorist attack on her husband.
These are bald-faced lies, and the mainstream media knows they are lies. Yet they were repeated ad nauseam on Wednesday by The Associated Press, the AOL pop-up window, CNN, NBC and — stunningly — the host of the lowest-rated cable show himself, who personally told me he knew the truth.
So for those of you who haven’t read any of my five best-selling books: Liberals are driven by Satan and lie constantly.
Here is my full sentence on “Good Morning America,” which the media deceptively truncated, referring to a joke I told about Edwards six months ago that made liberals cry: “But about the same time, you know, Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack — so I’ve learned my lesson: If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.”
The usual nut Web sites posted a zillion denunciations of my appearance on “Good Morning America” immediately after I appeared Monday morning. But it didn’t occur to any of them to simply lie about what I had said. No, it took them nearly 36 hours to concoct a version of that quote that included the Edwards part, but not the Maher part, or what English language speakers call: “the point.”
By tomorrow it will be: “Ann Coulter tried to kill John Edwards on ‘Good Morning America’!”
Judging by his fundraising efforts so far, I gather most of you don’t know who John Edwards is — unless you’re an overpriced hair dresser. He’s the trial lawyer who pretended in court to channel the spirit of a handicapped fetus in front of illiterate jurors to scam tens of millions of dollars off of innocent doctors. According to The New York Times, Edwards told one jury: “She speaks to you through me … And I have to tell you right now — I didn’t plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She’s inside me, and she’s talking to you.”
Let me also quote from campaign consultant Bob Shrum’s book “No Excuses”:
“(Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he’d never told anyone else — that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he’d do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade’s ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before — and with the same preface, that he’d never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn’t pick Edwards unless he met with him again.”
Apparently every time Edwards began a story about his dead son with “I’ve never told anyone this before,” everyone on the campaign could lip-sync the story with him.
As a commentator, I bring facts like these to the attention of the American people in a lively way. Thus, for example, in a column about the Democratic candidates for president written in 2003, I pointed out that the Democrats refused to discuss the economy or the war, but had recently “discovered a surprise campaign issue: It turns out that several of them have had a death in the family.”
(The full column is available at http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter112003.asp, http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=2428&keywords=the+party+of+ideas and http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2003/11/20/the_party_of_ideas.)
Among several examples of Democrats talking about a death in the family on the campaign trail was this one:
John Edwards injects his son’s fatal car accident into his campaign by demanding that everyone notice how he refuses to inject his son’s fatal car accident into his campaign.
Edwards has talked about his son’s death in a 1996 car accident on “Good Morning America,” in dozens of profiles and in his new book. (”It was and is the most important fact of my life.”) His 1998 Senate campaign ads featured film footage of Edwards at a learning lab he founded in honor of his son, titled “The Wade Edwards Learning Lab.” He wears his son’s Outward Bound pin on his suit lapel. He was going to wear it on his sleeve, until someone suggested that might be a little too “on the nose.”
If you want points for not using your son’s death politically, don’t you have to take down all those “Ask me about my son’s death in a horrific car accident” bumper stickers? Edwards is like a politician who keeps announcing that he will not use his opponent’s criminal record for partisan political advantage.
Manifestly, I was not making fun of their son’s death; I was making fun of John Edwards’ incredibly creepy habit of invoking his son’s tragic death to advance his political career — a practice so repellant, it even made John Kerry queasy.
I’m a little tired of losers trying to raise campaign cash or TV ratings off of my coattails, particularly when they use their afflictions or bereavement schedules to try to silence the opposition. From now on, I’m attacking only serious presidential candidates, like Dennis Kucinich.
June 29th, 2007 at 9:02 pmSorry, Howard the Duck, but you’re wasting time and space trying to spin by reprinting Ann Coulter’s column. I watched the interview more than once; I know who was interrupting whom.
June 30th, 2007 at 6:15 amFunny that you can only find burglars in the party you don’t belong to. Ever heard, for example, of Claude Allen, the White House aide who was caught shoplifting last year? And, yes, your dear hero Ann-thrax Coulter even tried to spin that one; I read part of the column. As long as Rethugs do it, it’s okay, right, you hypocrites?
Ps. Howard the Duck,
June 30th, 2007 at 10:40 amWhat I actually find particularly funny is Ann-thrax’s complaint about John Edwards making money off of law suits, her hate speeches/talk, etc. Have you ever looked up how much Ann-thrax makes for speeches telling us that married men like Al Gore and John Edwards are “faggots” and suggesting that a Supreme Court Justice ought to be rat-poisoned? Oh, such enlightening talks!
Her public fame came from trying to make a case out of Paula Jones’ sexual harrassment claims against Bill Clinton. A judge threw out Ms. Cunter’s claims as “unsubtantiated.” After that, Ann-thrax wrote a book on her involvement in the Paula Jones case and became a rightwing pundit. She doesn’t appear to have had much success in her original profession as a lawyer and probably is jealous of someone who actually was very good at it like John Edwards.
Coulter’s response to why she engages in personal attacks is because Edwards is bankrupting doctors?
Bankrupting Doctors?!?!
Coulter should take a logic class.
Meanwhile she does a fantastic job representing right wing talking points as based on lies and stupidity.
June 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pmComment by Midorki — June 30, 2007 @ 10:40 am
Interrupting is beside the point. The point Coulter made, and is unquestionably accurate about, is that her statements are routinely, and deliberately, taken out of context in the treacherous liberal media, as well as on forums such as this one. Her “hate” speech, such as it is, often consists of taking the Left’s OWN words and deeds and throwing them back in their faces. And the Left either misses the irony, or deliberately misconstrues her comments. More than likely, it’s the latter, because your intense hatred of her drives you to try to smear her and discredit her.
Case in point–The following quote by TP is so badly taken out of context that it’s laughable:
In 2003, she wrote a column claiming that John Edwards drove around with a bumper sticker saying “Ask me about my son’s death in a horrific car accident.â€
Flat out lie.
As she explains in her column, Edwards had a habit of running around claiming he would never use his son’s death for political benefit, all the while using his son’s death for political benefit–and she cites example after example of his doing this. According to the book by Bob Shrum, Kerry’s advisor, Kerry was even skeeved about this bizarre quirk in Edwards. Don’t take Coulter’s word for it–Shrum himself said that. Plainly, Coulter was merely caricaturing Edwards’ own strange behavior.
Case in point #2–TP’s context:
If I’m gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.
Sounds harsh on its own, no? Except that the rest of her quote was truncated to take it out of context. The full quote:
“But about the same time, you know, Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack — so I’ve learned my lesson: If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.â€
A clever poke in the eye to the liberal media, which went right over their collective heads. See, at about the same time Bill Maher had made his comments wishing Cheney had been killed in a terrorist plot, Coulter was under fire for far less outrageous comments. Her point: Since Maher’s assassination comments about Cheney were met with silence and a yawn in the liberal media, she concluded–facetiously, of course–that such statements must be acceptable and that in the future, she’ll stick to those type of comments. Of course, as we all know, Maher was given a pass because of his political leanings, not the nature of his statements. Coulter was simply pointing out liberal media hypocrisy and double-standards.
Case in point #3– Rat poisoning a Supreme Court Justice. Full quote:
We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee. That’s just a joke, for you in the media.”
And I’m sure that joke offended your tender sensibilities, almost as much as Julianne Malveau stating she wished Clarence Thomas would die from heart disease (and emphasizing that she was serious, not joking).
As for Coulter’s “faggot” comment, I have no idea of the context of that one, but I’m not about to give the liberal media, TP or you the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore.
Bottom line is, either you’re too dense to get her sarcastic humor, or you’re simply intent on discrediting her with lies. But I recognize none of these facts matter to you, that you will all continue to put your fingers in your ears, hum loudly and stomp your feet to drown out the truth. Because, after all, being a “progressive” means never having to face reality.
But at least there’s one thing on which we agree–John Edwards was absolutely incredibly talented at using lies, fraud and junk science to rip off insurers, taxpayers and doctors to unjustly enrich himself to a grotesque degree. He oughta be in prison.
June 30th, 2007 at 10:16 pmComment by Midorki(SIC) — June 30, 2007 @ 10:40 am
Is the misspelling deliberate, Howard the Duck?
June 30th, 2007 at 11:51 pmI have corrected one sentence in your screed; otherwise it’s not worth my time nor energy, as you are clearly a paid troll.
Because, after all, being a “neoCON†means never having to face reality.
Midori,
I have to be honest… the only hypocrites are those who see fault in one part and not another. Well, more specifically, those who are in the party of name callers criticizing the name callers on the other party. Making self-confident and sanctimonious comments of superiority as a result of a moment in time where one voice is heard over another. Ann’s Shrill being the focus as opposed to hosts on Air America who called Bush a murdering bastard who should be hung and shot for treason.
you have to be deliberately ignorant of reality to take this position.
I think the problem with many on the left is that they forget that spewing invective hate at those they say are guilty of speaking hate leaves one with no credibility.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 pmHoward Dean said:
“But I recognize none of these facts matter to you, that you will all continue to put your fingers in your ears, hum loudly and stomp your feet to drown out the truth. Because, after all, being a “progressive†means never having to face reality.”
Midori said:
“I have corrected one sentence in your screed; otherwise it’s not worth my time nor energy, as you are clearly a paid troll.
Because, after all, being a “neoCON†means never having to face reality.”
I guess you had such little time and energy (to read his post) that you were able to retort with his own ‘reality’ comment at the end?
You have a very thorough lack of time, my friend.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:31 pmJ lederman,
This thread is about Ann-thrax Coulter–not about Air America. All you neo-trolls ever do is dig up something like “Clinton did it, too;” “Bill Maher” or the very obscure Juliane Malveaux (how much time does she get on mainstream or cable TV?). Didn’t your parents ever teach you “two wrongs don’t make it right?”
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 amAnd whom was Ann-thrax supposedly parodying when she said about the Oklahoma bombing that her only regret was that the bombers didn’t go to the NY Times Building, too? You know, aside from expressing her hope to see the NY Times bombed (pretty ironic considering how often she boasts of her books on the NY Times’ best-sellers list), Ann-thrax in essence didn’t even express regret over loss of innocent life in the mostly Red State of Oklahoma.
Finally I do real work for a living and am married, so my time is better spent than answering trolls like you and Howard the Duck, not-your-friend.
you’re correct about the topic of this thread. My comment was in reply to the growing ‘he said, she said’ chaff blowing off to the side. In which case, my comments are in context.
also, nowhere do I lend support to Coulter. I used to find her quite interesting until these last few years. She seems to have found significant attention in her invective, so it has gotten to the point of shamefulness. Anyone who takes her seriously is the kind of person who forgets to walk upright and wipe themselves anyway. It’ like taking Rosie seriously…
I also never brought up Clinton, so I think you are responding to someone else.
Regardless of who wronged first, there is FAR too much viciousness coming out of the bungholes of both parties for anyone to act outraged. You are falling for it and I wanted to tell you that it’s ok to be disgusted with both parties as a result. I wont tell on you.
If you are a liberal, then who could you say really represents what you believe in the current system? I’m a conservative leaning independent, and I have to get a crow bar and a chain out to find mine. I see no leadership on either side.
Coulter and the Edwards fighting over words is a traded commodity in the media. She is far nastier than I care to hear and I’m glad Edwards called her on it. But it’s REALLY hard to give either of them any credibility when it comes to ‘he said, she said’ crap.
I also have a great job and a wife… but somehow, we are still communicating. Sorry we can’t be friends. Until the next post you don’t have time for.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 pmI agree that there is too much viciousness, and I have never defended it when it came from the left, either. No one but me speaks for me, and I particularly don’t like people like the Howard the Duck-troll telling me what I supposedly think, or another troll telling me that Rosie is my spokeswoman. I’ve watched Rosie’s show exactly once and also saw her on “Larry King Live” once or twice. Enough said on this thread, which has already gone on too long. BTW, I am communicating with my family; my statement meant that I prefer to spend more time doing that than discussing Ann-thrax Coulter.
July 3rd, 2007 at 6:08 pmMaybe we will be friends someday but not right now.
I think that Anne Coulter is a brilliant Liberal satirist — sort of a Steven Colbert on steroids. She goes a lot further than Colbert in her parody of the Rabid Right, but it works. She really sticks it to those Republicans with her feigned Right Wing leanings. It’s about time that the media she works for do away with the pretence and refer to her in her proper form: Liberal Humorist and Satirist. She’s clearly a fan of Swift’s “A Modest Proposal.”
July 6th, 2007 at 1:42 amTHAT WHORE IS A CUNT…AND SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE CANT SUCK A COCK FOR SHIT….
KILL’EM ALL!!
July 7th, 2007 at 2:01 pm