KILL’EM ALL!!

also, nowhere do I lend support to Coulter. I used to find her quite interesting until these last few years. She seems to have found significant attention in her invective, so it has gotten to the point of shamefulness. Anyone who takes her seriously is the kind of person who forgets to walk upright and wipe themselves anyway. It’ like taking Rosie seriously…

I also never brought up Clinton, so I think you are responding to someone else.

Regardless of who wronged first, there is FAR too much viciousness coming out of the bungholes of both parties for anyone to act outraged. You are falling for it and I wanted to tell you that it’s ok to be disgusted with both parties as a result. I wont tell on you.

If you are a liberal, then who could you say really represents what you believe in the current system? I’m a conservative leaning independent, and I have to get a crow bar and a chain out to find mine. I see no leadership on either side.

Coulter and the Edwards fighting over words is a traded commodity in the media. She is far nastier than I care to hear and I’m glad Edwards called her on it. But it’s REALLY hard to give either of them any credibility when it comes to ‘he said, she said’ crap.

I also have a great job and a wife… but somehow, we are still communicating. Sorry we can’t be friends. Until the next post you don’t have time for.

This thread is about Ann-thrax Coulter–not about Air America. All you neo-trolls ever do is dig up something like “Clinton did it, too;” “Bill Maher” or the very obscure Juliane Malveaux (how much time does she get on mainstream or cable TV?). Didn’t your parents ever teach you “two wrongs don’t make it right?”
And whom was Ann-thrax supposedly parodying when she said about the Oklahoma bombing that her only regret was that the bombers didn’t go to the NY Times Building, too? You know, aside from expressing her hope to see the NY Times bombed (pretty ironic considering how often she boasts of her books on the NY Times’ best-sellers list), Ann-thrax in essence didn’t even express regret over loss of innocent life in the mostly Red State of Oklahoma.
Finally I do real work for a living and am married, so my time is better spent than answering trolls like you and Howard the Duck, not-your-friend.

Midori said:
“I have corrected one sentence in your screed; otherwise it’s not worth my time nor energy, as you are clearly a paid troll.
Because, after all, being a “neoCON” means never having to face reality.”

I guess you had such little time and energy (to read his post) that you were able to retort with his own ‘reality’ comment at the end?

You have a very thorough lack of time, my friend.

you have to be deliberately ignorant of reality to take this position.

I think the problem with many on the left is that they forget that spewing invective hate at those they say are guilty of speaking hate leaves one with no credibility.

Is the misspelling deliberate, Howard the Duck?
I have corrected one sentence in your screed; otherwise it’s not worth my time nor energy, as you are clearly a paid troll.
Because, after all, being a “neoCON” means never having to face reality.

Interrupting is beside the point. The point Coulter made, and is unquestionably accurate about, is that her statements are routinely, and deliberately, taken out of context in the treacherous liberal media, as well as on forums such as this one. Her “hate” speech, such as it is, often consists of taking the Left’s OWN words and deeds and throwing them back in their faces. And the Left either misses the irony, or deliberately misconstrues her comments. More than likely, it’s the latter, because your intense hatred of her drives you to try to smear her and discredit her.

Case in point–The following quote by TP is so badly taken out of context that it’s laughable:

In 2003, she wrote a column claiming that John Edwards drove around with a bumper sticker saying “Ask me about my son’s death in a horrific car accident.”

Flat out lie.

As she explains in her column, Edwards had a habit of running around claiming he would never use his son’s death for political benefit, all the while using his son’s death for political benefit–and she cites example after example of his doing this. According to the book by Bob Shrum, Kerry’s advisor, Kerry was even skeeved about this bizarre quirk in Edwards. Don’t take Coulter’s word for it–Shrum himself said that. Plainly, Coulter was merely caricaturing Edwards’ own strange behavior.

Case in point #2–TP’s context:

If I’m gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.

Sounds harsh on its own, no? Except that the rest of her quote was truncated to take it out of context. The full quote:

“But about the same time, you know, Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack — so I’ve learned my lesson: If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.”

A clever poke in the eye to the liberal media, which went right over their collective heads. See, at about the same time Bill Maher had made his comments wishing Cheney had been killed in a terrorist plot, Coulter was under fire for far less outrageous comments. Her point: Since Maher’s assassination comments about Cheney were met with silence and a yawn in the liberal media, she concluded–facetiously, of course–that such statements must be acceptable and that in the future, she’ll stick to those type of comments. Of course, as we all know, Maher was given a pass because of his political leanings, not the nature of his statements. Coulter was simply pointing out liberal media hypocrisy and double-standards.

Case in point #3– Rat poisoning a Supreme Court Justice. Full quote:

We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee. That’s just a joke, for you in the media.”

And I’m sure that joke offended your tender sensibilities, almost as much as Julianne Malveau stating she wished Clarence Thomas would die from heart disease (and emphasizing that she was serious, not joking).

As for Coulter’s “faggot” comment, I have no idea of the context of that one, but I’m not about to give the liberal media, TP or you the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore.

Bottom line is, either you’re too dense to get her sarcastic humor, or you’re simply intent on discrediting her with lies. But I recognize none of these facts matter to you, that you will all continue to put your fingers in your ears, hum loudly and stomp your feet to drown out the truth. Because, after all, being a “progressive” means never having to face reality.

But at least there’s one thing on which we agree–John Edwards was absolutely incredibly talented at using lies, fraud and junk science to rip off insurers, taxpayers and doctors to unjustly enrich himself to a grotesque degree. He oughta be in prison.

Bankrupting Doctors?!?!

Coulter should take a logic class.

Meanwhile she does a fantastic job representing right wing talking points as based on lies and stupidity.

Well, see the article was about “personal attacks” by high-profile people — who’s a better authority on that than Howard Dean?

On the other hand, if the subject was about corruption, then I might have chosen a different name, say, like Bill or Hillary Clinton, Sandy Burglar or William Jefferson, to name a few.

As for Ann Coulter, well, even I believed she had stepped over the line this time. But it turns out we were all mislead by the intentionally fraudulent way her remarks were taken out of context.

Here are the REAL facts…

THAT WAS NO LADY — THAT WAS MY HUSBAND
Ann Coulter

The Edwards campaign is apparently still running low on donations, so this week they went back to their top fundraiser: me.

I doubled the ratings of the lowest-rated cable news show on Tuesday by agreeing to go on for a full hour to promote my new paperback version of “Godless” — a mistake I won’t make again. As I was walking to the set, minutes before airtime, it was casually mentioned to me that Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, might call in.

For the first time in recorded history, the show’s host did not interrupt a guest, but let Elizabeth Edwards ramble on and on, allowing her to browbeat me for being mean to her husband. (This delicate flower is very sensitive to rough words, having hired the Edwards’ campaign staffer who wrote this: “What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit”?)

Say, did any TV host ever surprise Al Franken, Bill Maher or Arianna Huffington with a call by the wife of someone they’ve made nasty remarks about? How about a call to John Edwards from the wife of a doctor he bankrupted with his junk-science lawsuits?

I think I may have tuned out at some point, so I can only speak to the first 45 minutes of Elizabeth Edwards’ harangue, but it mostly consisted of utterly dishonest renditions of things I had said on my “Good Morning America” interview this week and a column I wrote four years ago. (You can’t rush Edwards’ “rapid response team”!) She claimed I had launched unprovoked attacks on the Edwards’ dead son and called for a terrorist attack on her husband.

These are bald-faced lies, and the mainstream media knows they are lies. Yet they were repeated ad nauseam on Wednesday by The Associated Press, the AOL pop-up window, CNN, NBC and — stunningly — the host of the lowest-rated cable show himself, who personally told me he knew the truth.

So for those of you who haven’t read any of my five best-selling books: Liberals are driven by Satan and lie constantly.

Here is my full sentence on “Good Morning America,” which the media deceptively truncated, referring to a joke I told about Edwards six months ago that made liberals cry: “But about the same time, you know, Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack — so I’ve learned my lesson: If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.”

The usual nut Web sites posted a zillion denunciations of my appearance on “Good Morning America” immediately after I appeared Monday morning. But it didn’t occur to any of them to simply lie about what I had said. No, it took them nearly 36 hours to concoct a version of that quote that included the Edwards part, but not the Maher part, or what English language speakers call: “the point.”

By tomorrow it will be: “Ann Coulter tried to kill John Edwards on ‘Good Morning America’!”

Judging by his fundraising efforts so far, I gather most of you don’t know who John Edwards is — unless you’re an overpriced hair dresser. He’s the trial lawyer who pretended in court to channel the spirit of a handicapped fetus in front of illiterate jurors to scam tens of millions of dollars off of innocent doctors. According to The New York Times, Edwards told one jury: “She speaks to you through me … And I have to tell you right now — I didn’t plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She’s inside me, and she’s talking to you.”

Let me also quote from campaign consultant Bob Shrum’s book “No Excuses”:

“(Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he’d never told anyone else — that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he’d do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade’s ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before — and with the same preface, that he’d never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn’t pick Edwards unless he met with him again.”

Apparently every time Edwards began a story about his dead son with “I’ve never told anyone this before,” everyone on the campaign could lip-sync the story with him.

As a commentator, I bring facts like these to the attention of the American people in a lively way. Thus, for example, in a column about the Democratic candidates for president written in 2003, I pointed out that the Democrats refused to discuss the economy or the war, but had recently “discovered a surprise campaign issue: It turns out that several of them have had a death in the family.”

(The full column is available at http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter112003.asp, http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=2428&keywords=the+party+of+ideas and http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2003/11/20/the_party_of_ideas.)

Among several examples of Democrats talking about a death in the family on the campaign trail was this one:

John Edwards injects his son’s fatal car accident into his campaign by demanding that everyone notice how he refuses to inject his son’s fatal car accident into his campaign.

Edwards has talked about his son’s death in a 1996 car accident on “Good Morning America,” in dozens of profiles and in his new book. (”It was and is the most important fact of my life.”) His 1998 Senate campaign ads featured film footage of Edwards at a learning lab he founded in honor of his son, titled “The Wade Edwards Learning Lab.” He wears his son’s Outward Bound pin on his suit lapel. He was going to wear it on his sleeve, until someone suggested that might be a little too “on the nose.”

If you want points for not using your son’s death politically, don’t you have to take down all those “Ask me about my son’s death in a horrific car accident” bumper stickers? Edwards is like a politician who keeps announcing that he will not use his opponent’s criminal record for partisan political advantage.

Manifestly, I was not making fun of their son’s death; I was making fun of John Edwards’ incredibly creepy habit of invoking his son’s tragic death to advance his political career — a practice so repellant, it even made John Kerry queasy.

I’m a little tired of losers trying to raise campaign cash or TV ratings off of my coattails, particularly when they use their afflictions or bereavement schedules to try to silence the opposition. From now on, I’m attacking only serious presidential candidates, like Dennis Kucinich.

I don’t have the time to take on everything you write. I am open-minded enough to accept the possibility that Ann Coulter has made a legitimate argument at some point, but I frankly have never heard one. The first time I ever saw her on TV, she was defending the very discredited Joseph McCarthy, and it’s been downhill ever since then.
Finally, Howard Dean-wannabe, why don’t you stop hijacking the names of Democrats? Too chicken to post as a good Republican like Tom Delay, Darrell Issa, or Bob Ney, eh?

I think we need to be honest enough to admit that both parties have plenty of equal felony and theft to share around.

Did Bush force the halt of refinery construction?

Anyway, Coulter is still a nasty person. So many poisoned great ideas and issues.

Comment by President Bush 43 — June 28, 2007 @ 8:26 am

Lora, sometimes it seems like we aren’t even reading the same posts. I made no assumptions, I was simply responding to the posts about the govt. in people’s bedrooms. But I have neither the time nor the desire for explanation and I don’t think it would get us anywhere anyway. By the way, the GOP being the party of big business is nothing new. The Democratic party taking a hard left and leaving average folks, it’s base for years, behind is relatively recent.