Giuliani To Regent University: ‘The Amount Of Influence You Have Is Really, Really Terrific’
Giuliani To Regent University: ‘The Amount Of Influence You Have Is Really, Really Terrific’
Today, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani spoke at Pat Robertson’s Regent University. In the opening of his speech, he congratulated Robertson for the “influence” Regent has:
Thank you very, very much, Pat. Thank you for the very kind words and the introduction. And thank you for having me here.
I am very, very impressed with Regent University, when I consider that it was founded just a short while ago. The number of graduates that you have and the amount of influence that you have is really, really terrific.
And of all the many things that you’ve done — and there have been many, and many contributions…
Regent is ranked a “tier four” school by US News & World Report, “the lowest score and essentially a tie for 136th place.” Yet approximately one in six Regent graduates are employed in government work, and 150 serve in the Bush administration.
Monica Goodling, the former top aide to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who graduated from Regent’s law school, perhaps best exemplifies the “terrific” influence Regent is exerting on the nation. Last month, Goodling admitted to the Senate Judiciary Committee that she had “taken inappropriate political considerations into account” while hiring career employees at the Justice Department. At one point she even pressured Michael Battle, head of the Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys, to replace two long-standing Justice officials with “a fellow Regent law school graduate.”
The “amount of influence” that Regent has had is a testimony to the willingness of some of its graduates to place partisan loyalties over principle.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) also recently spoke at Regent and commended Robertson for his “dedication to strengthening and then nurturing the pillars of this community and our country.”
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Yuk! I am going to puke, or is that re-puke?
June 26th, 2007 at 5:03 pmBurn it down.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:04 pmLow rent white trash pretend education.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pmif a "college" like this can be accredited, then education is something you can pay for without earning.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:06 pmWe are talking the absolute lowest of academic quality. Any wingnut even marginally intelligent will go to a decent law school and then join the Federalist Society.
Sad that so many stupid people hold positions of responsibility in our government.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmSo it's safe to assume that if Juliani gets elected, Robertson will continue to staff the justice department with his jesus-junkie hacks.
When is that old nut going to croak? He's #3 on my "People who's graves I'm going to piss on" list.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmthat you have is really, really terrific.
Hahaha. He had troubles finding what to say.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmJust a breeding ground. Graduates will not find jobs in a few years.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmWHO CARES?!?!?!?!
June 26th, 2007 at 5:08 pmTop GOP Pres. candidates suck up to crazy Pat Robertson and his Tier 4 'finishing' school.
Looking forward to seeing these GOP clowns and many of their pondscum coherts up for re-election in Nov 2008 get taken out.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAre Liberty and Regence neck and neck in the rankings? Are they even accredited?
Not only do I bet that they are accredited, but I bet that people can get our tax dollars to help for going to school there.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:12 pmOMG! He is so full of sh*t it is pouring out his ears..
June 26th, 2007 at 5:14 pmBoth of them need more onion rings.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:15 pm$hit. I just threw up on my computer.
How low can one mutherf*cking, lying GOP a$$wipe go?
And why do I doubt it will only get worse.
Pandering is so unappealing.
Anyone got any Lysol...my computer smells now.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:17 pmThe U.S. news rankings, TP, have come under enough criticism. A degree is a degree. Your "placement" argument is null and void. I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S. news rankings have bias against schools that aren't so politically correct.
Go bash Harvard. They're an overrated school - WAY overrated.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:17 pmIt is so embarrassing to watch these guys prostitute themselves to the extent they do. Absolute chameleons with no core.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:18 pmRudy would kiss the devil's ass, if he thought doing so would help him get elected.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pmWould Willard Romney and Rudy Giuliani let their kids get degrees from Regent?
I suspect not.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pmThis holds true for most Universities. They'll sell a degree to anyone.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:22 pmWell hey there CT!!!!
How are ya?!?!?!?
June 26th, 2007 at 5:23 pmAmerica: locked in a battle between the Smarts and the Dumbs.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:23 pmThe U.S. news rankings, TP, have come under enough criticism. A degree is a degree. Your “placement†argument is null and void. I wouldn’t be surprised if the U.S. news rankings have bias against schools that aren’t so politically correct.
Go bash Harvard. They’re an overrated school - WAY overrated.
Comment by CT V_1
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Heh, while the U.S. News rankings are certainly debatable, there is NO debate when it comes to these "fourth tier" schools. They suck, plain and simple. No amount of wishful thinking will change the fact that not all degrees are created equal. This isn't about political correctness; this is about low LSAT scores, terrible undergraduate educations, poor quality of teaching.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:24 pmRobbie looks like he's getting a nut and Julie looks like he really doesn't want to be there. It's funny that this sorry sack of shi+ is selling out to people who will never back him. Serves him right.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:24 pmI blame the millions of willfully ignorant 'people of faith' who follow Pat Robertson for this. Of course craven people like Rove will use religion to lead the sheep around. We need less sheep in this country.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:27 pmThe AP this morning served up a nice summary of what has been a very bad week for Rudy Giuliani.
For the details, see:
June 26th, 2007 at 5:27 pm"Giuliani's Very Bad Week."
Hola, Mr. PRIMVS INTER PARES!
What new language have you learned (or invented) today?
RIP Benoit's Wife and Son!
June 26th, 2007 at 5:27 pmI'm so glad that Giuiliani and Romney and McCain have shown their hands early in this political charade. Should make support and voting easier in the months to come, that is if the average american can break away from the paris hilton story, the american idol story, the incessant blast of looks good, smells good, broad shoulders pap that spews forth from the so-called media.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:29 pmCT V_1 has an opinion from bizarro world:
A degree is a degree.
Ah ha ha ha ha! Yeah, right.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:30 pmHow does it feel to shake hands with the devil Rudy?
June 26th, 2007 at 5:31 pmComment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Well, there is a phrase that I picked up from The Joker (he comes around at night mostly).
We call Muslim spies: Muslim Magenta's (tm)
You can check out his posts here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/
start at post #38
June 26th, 2007 at 5:31 pmHe can pander all he wants: Rudy won't make it past the primaries.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:32 pm#25
does any of it matter when this country is so packed full of willfully ignorant people in the electorate?
people deny global warming - don't want to change their lifestyle
people deny evolution - pre-conceived notion the bible is literally true
40% STILL think Saddam was involved in planning 9/11 - American exceptionalism
Willful ignorance is the enemy and 'faith' is its foundation. Faith in the goodness of America, faith in the bible. Faith needs to stop being so respected.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:32 pmTheir madness is all about onion ring shortage. Get them more onion rings and they'd be happy progressives like us.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:32 pmErratum: post #30) should say - Muslim Magentas (tm)
June 26th, 2007 at 5:32 pmNo influence any longer, that is. Now that the cat is out of the bag regarding how Bush patsied all of these grads to the tune of some 150 in offices of our government and how they botched every job...I'd say that their reputation (as being a "loyal Bushitco") is about over!
June 26th, 2007 at 5:33 pmI got my degree out of a cracker jack box, but it's still more respected than any degree one could get from Regent U.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:33 pmWOW!! Does RUDEE ever look like he needs the enema of all enemas! Must be all that fecal matter backing up in his brain from too many bullsh!t speeches.
He is one sick person right now, and will likely get sicker as teh campaign moves on and he gest further un"dressed" by the public.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:34 pmComment by El Tonno
Sure, Mr. Taco. I should just take your god-forsaken, third-world, hell-hole advice.
OPEN BORDERS FOR ALL!
June 26th, 2007 at 5:36 pm...and there have been many, and many contributions....like corruption of the judical system, yeah, thanks for that you freak.
God is not dead, god never existed.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:36 pm"The number of graduates that you have and the amount of influence that you have is really, really terrific."\
That could be true -- in a very negative sense. Robertson is influential, all right, in a terrifically negative sense.
The fawning and the sucking up is nauseating. Robertson has made milions, not only on old ladies sending in their social security money, but on slave labor in diamond mines, and a host of other unethical enterprises.
The man is not a man of god, he is the devil incarnate.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:37 pmGiuliani, challenged as he is in morals, doesn't see that.
From the mouth of the horse's ass himself:
If Christian people work together, they can succeed during this decade in winning back control of the institutions that have been taken from them over the past 70 years. Expect confrontations that will be not only unpleasant but at times physically bloody.... This decade will not be for the faint of heart, but the resolute. Institutions will be plunged into wrenching change. We will be living through one of the most tumultuous periods of human history. When it is over, I am convinced God's people will emerge victorious.
-- Pat Robertson, Pat Robertson's Perspective Oct-Nov 1992
June 26th, 2007 at 5:37 pm#24 I blame the millions of willfully ignorant ‘people of faith’ who follow Pat Robertson for this. Of course craven people like Rove will use religion to lead the sheep around. We need less sheep in this country.
Comment by simplicio
June 26th, 2007 at 5:37 pmYes, we need less sheep, but as well we need those of better discernment; those who believe they are not sheep but who may be as willfully ignorant.
If you put your faith in man (who by nature is sinful) then you will not know what it is to believe.
Rudy,
Your kneepads clash with your suit - AGAIN - and damn it, wipe your chin.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:38 pmMore enlightening words from Guiliani's current crush:
"Individual Christians are the only ones really -- and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him."
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 11, 1985, defending his stance that only Christians and Jews are fit to hold public office
"I never said that in my life ... I never said only Christians and Jews. I never said that."
-- Pat Robertson, Time magazine, after having been confronted regarding his statement on The 700 Club of January 11, 1985
"When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. "What do you mean?" the media challenged me. "You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?" My simple answer is, "Yes, they are.""
June 26th, 2007 at 5:39 pm-- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 218
Cobalt 90 - may I assume that 1 and 2 are Bush and Cheney? Please, tell.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:39 pmTrue saddness is not being able to believe in anything but our own disbelief.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:40 pmCT V_1:
I gave you the benefit of the doubt in shortening my name for your convenience. You need to QUIT treating these scums with dignity. Represent me with thoroughness!
Braindead idiot! You are not Comptroller V-1 - Redux, understand?
June 26th, 2007 at 5:40 pmA degree is a degree.
Uh, no it isn't. It's why there are rankings for colleges and universities...
Go bash Harvard. They’re an overrated school - WAY overrated.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Yes they are, but it doesn't seem to stop their graduates from getting just about anything tehy want...
June 26th, 2007 at 5:41 pmAs for colleges, well, my daughter is going to be an Environmental Lawyer, and she will NOT be going to Regent...she starts Mount Holyoke September 2...she will not be in a stinking IV tier school.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:42 pmShe is a flaming liberal too...bet none of our trolls have been to an Ivy League School.
You know, I wouldn't have the first problem with faith as long as people followed Christ's word, which they don't. Christ was about helping the underdog, the poor, the infirm.
People today who claim they are of faith spew hate, discontent, no compassion or caring what so ever.
Give me a break with people who preach the gospel. They preach the gospel that suits them...not the gospel of Christ.
Spare me your hipocracy, please. When you put your time and money where your filthy mouths are, then I will respect your faith!
June 26th, 2007 at 5:42 pmYou ok, CT???
Reboot!!! Reboot!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 5:42 pmComment by CompTROLLER V-1
I will not follow your orders.
Please, sir, smite me some other time.
While you're at it, you could use a trip to hell yourself.
Stick it, brother.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:43 pmIt would be nice if conservative born-again christians would, at least for a moment, ponder the depth of commitment their leaders have to the issues they have pressed for so many years. Pat Robertson, who has referred to democratic candidates who favored freedom of choice for women as "baby killers" for decades. Now, he's happily shaking the hand of Rudy Guiliani. Is Pat Robertson a phony who uses religious wedge issues for political gain. It sure looks like it. Pro-choice candidates were "un-godly" up until this season. Now, evidently, it's ok to be pro-choice if you're a top-running republican candidate. Born-agains: why do you sit there and allow yourselves to be played for fools? Do you have any self-respect at all?
June 26th, 2007 at 5:44 pmGod is not dead, god never existed.
Comment by Buck Fush — June 26, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Exactly!
June 26th, 2007 at 5:44 pmAre trolls required to be bigots? Or is it a choice? Either way, it's sad, especially considering they are kids going thru their developmently obnoxious stage - mixing bigotry into that does not bode well for their futures.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:45 pmFour little words. That's all it takes.
"There is no god."
Pat becomes inconsequential.
Atheism will bury his kind. It's only a matter of time.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:47 pmIf you put your faith in man (who by nature is sinful) then you will not know what it is to believe.
Comment by leftcoast — June 26, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
That is the conservative premise. The liberal premise is that people are generally good, and will generally do the 'right' thing.
I personally find that you shouldn't put faith blindly in anyone or anything. It is educating yourself and choosing your battles wisely that lead to success in most cases.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:47 pm"Uh, no it isn’t. It’s why there are rankings for colleges and universities"
Rankings can certainly be deceiving. Smart people can go study anywhere and still make good money. Take your brand-name righteousness elsewhere.
"Yes they are, but it doesn’t seem to stop their graduates from getting just about anything they want…"
They get more than they deserve due to the rankings, it appears. If I were the employer, I wouldn't award a salary based on what name college they attend. I would look at their accomplishments as a whole, as I should. No special treatment should be given.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:47 pmComment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Sorry, there. My father (and boss) shows up every once in a while to untangle my wires. You should know him to be a full-blown prick.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:49 pmBraindead idiot! You are not Comptroller V-1 - Redux, understand?
Comment by CompTROLLER V-1 — June 26, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
You two stop it... You clog this thread with that nonsense again, and I'm seriously going to email Faiz every 5 minutes to give you a time out. Sheesh...
June 26th, 2007 at 5:49 pmThis is just gross.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:49 pm,em>You know, I wouldn’t have the first problem with faith as long as people followed Christ’s word, which they don’t. Christ was about helping the underdog, the poor, the infirm.
Only a percent of what was attributed to Jesus was actually the peace and love stuff. He also had a O.T. side, which is where those people get their ammunition.
People today who claim they are of faith spew hate, discontent, no compassion or caring what so ever.
Only 35% of people in this country are active Christians anyway... The rest are hypocrites.
Spare me your hipocracy, please. When you put your time and money where your filthy mouths are, then I will respect your faith!
Comment by MsJoanne — June 26, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
Exactly... They want a free pass, and those of us who are sick of what violent and hateful things they are doing with it have had enough.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:52 pmComment by Buck Fush
Go tell your daughter that we have too many lawyers. Your daughter is only choosing that profession to make six-figures right out of school.
The cost of legal services these days is driving people into bankrupcy, legal services should be no more expensive to receive than an ice cream cone.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:54 pmComment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Sorry, there. My father (and boss) shows up every once in a while to untangle my wires. You should know him to be a full-blown prick.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
That's cool. I agree with your posts so far.
Especially if you don't have the cash for a name brand school, like me, you can work your way through Community College then you are half way done by the time you transfer to a name brand. That is what I did, and I saved thousands.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:54 pmI certainly hope that when the new Democratic President takes office in 2009 that he/she fires every one of the unqualified Regent University graduates that were hired by the Bush Crime Family. And if that is done, want to bet that the right will scream bloody murder. That's a foregone conclusion.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:54 pmAtheism will bury his kind. It’s only a matter of time.
A matter of time? Maybe if the human kind could get used to the idea of death as the death of self, but it will never happen.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmAtheism will bury his kind. It’s only a matter of time.
Comment by George — June 26, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
I've been wading through studies and polls lately, and even many of the conservative ones admit that religiousity is on a steady decline in our country. Each year fewer and fewer people bother with organized religion. And for very good reasons.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmComment by unbelievable
I think Faiz should delete all of your posts and mail you a straight-jacket. You have aspirations to be a full-blown dictator, I think you should get lost.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmFabulous.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmKatie: you can't fire them all because some of them are protected by the civil-service rules
June 26th, 2007 at 5:56 pmComment by Katie — June 26, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
When the democratically elected president takes office he should fire all who are unqualified.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:57 pmWe're at war with religious extremists. We shouldn't be praising this American madrassa, we should be bombing it.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:57 pm.
#56 - I have no idea of what a conservative premise is. People are generally good? I believed that at one time. But, there is too much evil in the world. If you believe people will do the right thing, then you have witnessed nothing of Bush,. Cheney et. al. You have not seen Darfur or the horrid crimes of this week.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:57 pmI am no conservative. Read my posts. I believe we can all make a difference. I don't care if you believe in religion or not.
Educating oneself will make a difference. Liberal premise? Undefined. Conservative undefined. Love... well defined.
You jest, right?
If you have equal qualifications from someone from Univ of Michigan or Univ or IL along with someone from Regents, assuming equal GPA, would you make a hiring decision to hire someone from a tier 4 school over UofM or UofI?
If so, let's hope you don't run a company, you're not qualified to make hiring decisions.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:58 pmWhile they are on the same page, can we tear it out, crumple it up, and, you know, BURN it?
June 26th, 2007 at 5:59 pmRankings can certainly be deceiving.
Prove it.
Smart people can go study anywhere and still make good money.
Nope.
Take your brand-name righteousness elsewhere.
I'm just the messenger. I didn't go to a top ten school, and I see what happened to those who did - even if they weren't the top ten intellectually...
They get more than they deserve due to the rankings, it appears. If I were the employer, I wouldn’t award a salary based on what name college they attend. I would look at their accomplishments as a whole, as I should. No special treatment should be given.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
Life isn't fair. I dated a guy who got is Master's degree from Harvard. He got his first job out of college making just $15k less than I was making - even though I had 14 years more experience...
June 26th, 2007 at 5:59 pmStinky, that's another way Bush is going to f*ck the American people vis a via the DoJ for years to come: they are civil servants and can't be fired but for performance.
But I think that their performance will probably be lacking if they instilled a bunch of Regent type people...so it might come back and bite them on the a$$ anway. We can hope, at least.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:59 pm"Katie: you can’t fire them all because some of them are protected by the civil-service rules
Comment by StinkyBritches — June 26, 2007 @ 5:56 pm"
Thats what I was thinking.....
Most, if not all, of those positions are PERMANENT positions that take an act of GOD to remove them....
June 26th, 2007 at 5:59 pm"Especially if you don’t have the cash for a name brand school, like me, you can work your way through Community College then you are half way done by the time you transfer to a name brand. That is what I did, and I saved thousands."
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
The stock of Community Colleges in this country is rapidly increasing. And results are in: people who start at a community college and transfer elsewhere to get a four-year degree are at NO economic disadvantage when it comes to future salary. And again, smart people do well and go places no matter what school they attend.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pmI think Faiz should delete all of your posts and mail you a straight-jacket. You have aspirations to be a full-blown dictator, I think you should get lost.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Didn't he already ban you Rachel?
June 26th, 2007 at 6:01 pmHey, I think it's smart business to start at a community college. Why pay tuition to a Univ (which is pretty amazing these days) when you can do two years at a CC, get a good GPA which will transfer, and then finish up at a ful U? I think you have a better chance of getting into the U you want, too, if you have a solid GPA along with the other stuff they want (extra curricular stuff).
Makes fiscal sense to me.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:02 pmYes, community college to get your AA degree is a very good idea, my daughter did that (3.99 gpa) but she had to work very hard in student government and student council to get accepted to Mount Holyoke, glad she did the first 2 years at a CC, Mount Holyoke is gonna cost me 84K for 2 years, she will do her post graduate here at the University of Washington.
Anyone who want to success in life, can.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pmComment by MsJoanne — June 26, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
You do have a better chance, MsJoanne. After I completed my A.S. I was automatically admitted into a Univ. and all but 2 credits transferred, it was great.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pmI have no idea of what a conservative premise is.
That people are generally bad by nature and need to be punished by a strict father figure. Pretty much what the conservative Christians believe.
People are generally good? I believed that at one time. But, there is too much evil in the world.
I don't believe in evil. But I do think that people influenced by bad ideologies will behave as if they are bad.
If you believe people will do the right thing, then you have witnessed nothing of Bush,. Cheney et. al. You have not seen Darfur or the horrid crimes of this week.
They are just under the bad influence of the dark side of Christianity.
After all, Bush got his 'with us or against us' from Jesus's 'he who is not with me' line...
I am no conservative. Read my posts. I believe we can all make a difference.
I was just pointing out the fact that it's a conservative belief to consider all people sinners.
I don’t care if you believe in religion or not.
That wasn't my point. I don't care if you do. I just was saying that calling people sinners is a conservative thing to do, and it's a slippery slope...
Educating oneself will make a difference. Liberal premise? Undefined. Conservative undefined. Love… well defined.
Comment by leftcoast — June 26, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
I'm all for education... It's why I left Corporate American and became a teacher - as mostteachers are liberasl. It's just the Adminstrations that rule us, teh students and set policy who are conservative....
June 26th, 2007 at 6:07 pmDidn’t he already ban you Rachel?
Comment by unbelievable
Ouch! Direct hit right in the crotch!!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:08 pm"Katie: you can’t fire them all because some of them are protected by the civil-service rules Comment by StinkyBritches"
A lot of the people that the Bush Crime Family has fired for political purposes are also civil servants. So, why can Bush do it and a Democratic President not be able to do it.
Besides, I'm fairly sure that most of those Regent University graduates are way out of their league and will be able to be fired for cause.
That us the problem that the Republics don't see. That Bush is setting precedents that if not stopped, will be followed by other Presidents, even Democratic presidents.
That's why I keep asking them the question they never will answer and that is "If this was a Democratic administration doing these things, would they still be OK with you". I have as yet had a troll answer that question and even my Republic acquaintances can't answer it. They will say "that would be different", but can't say why it would be different. I think in order to have the ability to be a Republic you have to be a total hypocrite in your soul.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:08 pmAnother TP oversight. You didn't include what Rudy said in his speech. This is good stuff that will drive Olbermann nuts..I love it!
"Islamic terrorists killed more than 500 Americans before Sept. 11. Many people think the first attack on America was on Sept. 11, 2001. It was not. It was in 1993," said the former New York mayor.
Giuliani argued that Clinton treated the World Trade Center bombing as a criminal act instead of a terrorist attack, calling it "a big mistake" that emboldened other strikes on the Khobar Towers housing complex in Saudi Arabia, in Kenya and Tanzania and later on the USS Cole while docked in Yemen in 2000.
"The United States government, then President Clinton, did not respond," Giuliani said. "(Osama) bin Laden declared war on us. We didn't hear it."
In hindsight, Giuliani said, maybe it's all clearer now, "but now is now, and there is no reason to go back into denial, and that is essentially what the Democratic candidates for president want to do: they want to go back, to put the country in reverse to the 1990s
June 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmOuch! Direct hit right in the crotch!!
Comment by Not Canadian — June 26, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
I'm done playing nice with that freak of nature...
June 26th, 2007 at 6:11 pm"Didn’t he already ban you Rachel?"
Comment by unbelievable
You should provide the details. Insider story, I guess.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:11 pm"I’m done playing nice with that freak of nature…"
Comment by unbelievable
Dictators don't tend to play nice from the start. We call them the freaks of life.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:13 pmYou should provide the details. Insider story, I guess.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
You can play dumb, but you're not fooling anyone here... We know it's you.
I also know that you're 'just sayin' and that whole line of insane attack trolls...
Grow up.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:14 pmComment by unbelievable
Sorry, my name is not 'Rachel.' Your projection should not be treated as fact, psycho. I've been blogging here for just over 1 1/2 months.
You are a crazy nut case and they should fire you immediately. You have no business being a teacher.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pm"Anyone who want to success in life, can. Comment by Buck Fush"
Oh really. Even if I am born to a crack addicted mother and live in a ghetto with terrible schools and no law enforcement. All I have to do is "want" to be a success and it will come to me. I don't think so.
The only way a kid today (other than the children of the rich) can be a success is if their parents are willing to mortgage their house and their soul to pay to send them to good schools. I put my daughter through a 2nd tier law school and will be paying for it pretty much for the rest of my life. That kid who was born in the ghetto won't have a parent who can or has the ability to do this for them.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pm"You can play dumb, but you’re not fooling anyone here… We know it’s you."
You sound like a thug.
"Grow up"
Perhaps if I "grow-up" to your tune, I'd accuse other of drinking their own pee.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:19 pmYou are a crazy nut case and they should fire you immediately. You have no business being a teacher.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 26, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Exactly what you usually say Rachel. LOL
Such a liar.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:20 pmComment by Katie — June 26, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Where there's a will, there's a way.
That kid should take advantage of all of the wonderful opportunities that are available.
Unless, of course, the kid is a white male.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:21 pmCT...you appear to have little understanding of the law school hierarchy. While it is sometimes true that a potential employers place little weight on the prestige of undergrad degrees, that is MOST DEFIANTLY not the case for law schools. Law schools are all about prestige and law firms hire and fire on that basis. While top 10 type law schools (Cal, Harvard, Stanford) grad average between 125,000-150,000 starting with near full employment, tier 4 school grads generally have less then half employement in law and have starting wages around 30,000-45,000 dollars. Law is a unbelievable competitive field, and those with lesser degrees struggle to find good employment opportunities
According to all law school well-known analysts (that judge school on the bases of starting incomes, employment, BAR passage rate, prestige rankings among judges, etc- not political bias), Regent is the rock bottom. Take a look at the numbers...http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/view.php/71
Regent have less then half their grads employed at graduation and when they do find a job, it's less then 45,000 dollars a year. That is terrible for the type of hard work that law requires. The BAR passage rates are also very weak in comparison with decent schools.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:22 pmRobertson worships the God of Hate, Power and Greed.
Damn, a lightning bolt just struck my car! better change that.
Robertson worships the God of Hate, Power, Greed and VENGEANCE!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmThank you very, very much, Pat. Thank you for the very kind words and the introduction. And thank you for having me here.
I am very, very impressed with Regent University, when I consider that it was founded just a short while ago. The number of graduates that you have and the amount of influence that you have is really, really terrific.
And of all the many things that you’ve done — and there have been many, and many contributions…
This reads like a paper turned in by a high school student who was repeating as many words as possible so that it would fill up the required minimum length of 2 pages.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:25 pmRegent University: I'll bet their undergrad catalog reads like an exhibit list at the Creation Museum. (More like "Cretin" Museum, if you ask me.)
June 26th, 2007 at 6:30 pmunbelievable- Sorry, had a bit of family distraction. I know how you feel, at least I'm pretty sure. I get carried away. You sound like you'd make a great teacher. I will never call someone a sinner. Its not what I've read.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pmBlessings
Comment by unbelievable
I'm a male, thug.
I could say I'm Bernie, Michelle, Rachel, John, Vort, Arty, Mikey, TripMaster Monkey and Susan. You couldn't prove it.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pm#92 Katie I put my daughter through a 2nd tier law school and will be paying for it pretty much for the rest of my life. That kid who was born in the ghetto won’t have a parent who can or has the ability to do this for them.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmComment by Katie
Katie, You're so right. Our best minds are wasted sometimes because of the inequities of a system that rewards legacy, etc. I wish there was a way for all to meet their potential. What a world we would have.
Katie - the girl that will be my daughters room mate was a highschool dropout from the ghetto - she thru her own will and work got also a 3.99 gpa and the presidents award - so yes you can.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pmI wonder if rudy remembered to take his knee pads with him. When you do the monica you really do need to remember to bring your knee pads.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:52 pmI'll give a little background story on her - her family came here from Cambodia when she was 14, she could not speak english, she little in a very poor part of town with many other SE asian families. Frustrated with high school she dropped out. But after a while she knew she had to be something better, she put her self thru CC to get her AA degree, was Class President and graduated with honors, an this is the type that Ivy League Colleges want, people with selfmotivated drive and ambition. Now not everyone can do that, but most people can if they try.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmTwo comments about Regent U: One, forget how good (or bad) their law program is... think about all the "extras" they carry out with them, like the brainwashing of the far right religious training, that is required to graduate. And the nuanced input from the Instructors/Professors who have an agenda to get their ideology imbedded into not just the Government, but into all of society. Two, would ANY of the trolls here hire a science graduate who was taught Creationism to work in their labs/clinics, etc? And would you want one of their grads as your cancer or spinal cord doctor, since they don't believe in any stem cell research or application? OR maybe have one of them work on your daughter, who was brutally raped and needs to have an abortion.
Will await your reply, but doubt if anyone will take me up on this.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:56 pmwhat is with this school? quite a year.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pmI could say I’m Bernie, Michelle, Rachel, John, Vort, Arty, Mikey, TripMaster Monkey and Susan. You couldn’t prove it.
Comment by CT V_1
The thing is, no-body cares. You could be doing manufacturing at McDonald's or be posting from a wheelchair while reflecting on 2D+1 quantum gravity. Aren't comment sections great?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:03 pmNothing displays the rank hypocracy and dishonesty of the Christian right like its embrace of Rudy Guliani.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:15 pmRegent is ranked a “tier four†school by US News & World Report, “the lowest score and essentially a tie for 136th place.â€
And I garunteeya Regent U is cooking the grades and dumbing down the free thinking stuff like real law schools teach and instead teaching to the test. CHEATIN' BASTARDS!!!
Everytime I am forced (and I mean forced) to go to jury duty or need to hire a lawyer or an accountant, then I will forever and ever (amen) make sure that person is not a graduate of Regent U or Liberty U.
Talk about long term jury nullification, wow!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 8:01 pmInteresting... one soon-to-be non-entity talking to another soon-to-be non-entity.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:05 pmHow long before God calls Pat Robertson to the afterlife like Falwell?
Soon I hope.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:19 pm"That kid should take advantage of all of the wonderful opportunities that are available. Unless, of course, the kid is a white male. Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES "
Oh really. Would you care to list those wonderful opportunities that are available to a poor black kid raised in a ghetto. And then you try to make us feel sorry for the "white male". Like they are an underprivileged class. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. What's your IQ? Something around 80?
June 26th, 2007 at 9:23 pm>Erratum: post #30) should say - Muslim Magentas â„¢
we'll call you when we find someone who cares.
and dont worry about trademarking your little witless whitticism, its neither catchy nor simple, two qualities any concept marketed to you and your ilk must have if it has any chance of catching on.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:48 pmGave the trolls 3 hours to respond to my questions in post #107, and NADA!!!
Why am I not surprised? They have trouble debating any issue that is not a smokescreen or no talking points have been issued yet. And these were good questions that involved their personal lives, and still no takers. HMMMM!!! Guess we have the Wimp Patrol on here now.
June 26th, 2007 at 10:14 pmComment by Upside00 — June 26, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Next time try asking a pertinent question.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:40 pmUpside I'm responding......Rant from a Regent student.
#1 Not everyone at Regent likes Pat Robertson
#2 U.S. News rankings are bogus and are widely criticized.
#3 I want Ron Paul for President
#4 If you didn't know all Law schools that have been created in the last 30 years are ranked as a low tier school (majority). Liberal U.S. news isn't going to rank Regent higher anytime soon, I'm ok with that.
#5 I'm not for killing babies but I believe the government doesn't has a right to make that decision for anyone. We don't care about overturning Roe v. Wade or gay people not having rights. I think they should have rights because "Everyman was created equal".
#6 For comment #111 I'm not going to represent your dumbass, learn how to spell.
#7 Don't put me in the Christian Zealous category because I go to Regent. This accounts for 90% of Regent students.
#8 Dick Cheney and Alberto Gonzalez are retarded. Gonzalez went to Harvard, it just's goes to show don't judge the University but the person.
#9 Monica Blondling is not the brightest bulb and we all don't like her for bruising our school and most of her law education was from American University anyway. Doesn't she seem like a "dumb blonde" to you? I believe in hiring democrats because it brings balance! Balance is important if their's only view then you tend to overlook possibilities.
#10 Most of our professors are from Harvard of the attorney general Ashcroft etc.
#11 Everytime an article like this appears we win.
#12 Way to make news out of nothing. This is stupid.
#13 Just because we're Christian doesn't give you a right to judge us. You have no idea who we are or what were about and what are views are.
#14 I don't want Gulianni for President, if his wives can't trust him how can we (3)? Sound like a authoritarian Yes man who will do anything for the vote.
#15 For comment #97 maybe because some law students go into pro bono and humanitarian work instead of making a load of money. Money doesn't measure success or bring happiness sorry to tell you.
#16 Regent is accredited by the ABA which is the same accreditation for every law school. Catholic University isn't ranked because they choose not to be and liberty doesn't have full accreditation so their not ranked so Regent has the balls to be a part of U.S. news rankings even though they know they will be batched. Also we arent 136th that was pulled out of the Boston Globes ass. Only top 100 are rated the rest fall in tierr 3 and 4.
#17 Regent compared to ODU and TCC here in Virginia Beach is no comparison.
#18 Upside you don't know me why do you already hate me? Sounds like the Nazi's.
#19 Did you know many democrats go to Regent and everytime you bash this school you disservice your own kind.
#20 Regent's state bar passage rate is 73%, in states like California the average is like 43% or something. Virginia has a harder bar then some states. No we can't compete with University of Virginia or William and Mary that have been around for hundred or so years!
#21 Only a few graduates at the law school you make it sound like were taking over the world and need to be eliminated.
#22 That many going into government is very minuscule compared to the amount of people in the executive branch. How many do you think other universities have?
#23 I'm at Regent because I wanted something spiritual to further my relationship with God. I've attended the liberal huge state colleges, wanted something different. Whether you agree with that or not you should respect that.
#24 There are some misconceptions about Christians and Regent people, for once I believe in evolution and I believe in Creationism how you all overall criticize it like we only believe God created the earth 2000 years ago and evolution is fake. For instance I believe that something had to spark the universe such as a creator.
#25 Don't take the bible so literally.
#26 A lot of people at Regent like to party.
#27 Don't take Pat Robertson literally.
#28 He makes me laugh with his ramblings.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:49 pmGiuliani's children don't talk to him.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:11 amHey perhaps Rudy Giuliani might marry Pat Robertson and both of them run off together somewhere. We all know that Rudy would be the bride > lol.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:10 amIs it just me, or does Pat Robertson resemble Java the Hut more each day?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:24 amThey all have to pray, praise Pat Robertson and claim to be the defenders of values at his doorsteps....
How pathatic that is !!, that a guy like Pat should help these candidates in their resumes and make them march to the White House...
And now Giuliani is seeking Pat's blessings....something 'The Founders' of this country trying to avoid..mixing religion and politics...and now here in this 21st Century a guy like Pat playing a major factor in these campaigning candidates' path to the presidency.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:55 am"The thing is, no-body cares. You could be doing manufacturing at McDonald’s or be posting from a wheelchair while reflecting on 2D+1 quantum gravity. Aren’t comment sections great?"
Comment by El Tonno
Thing is, your hombre 'unbelievable' tends to care, and cares to project. I wasn't exactly speaking without purpose there, so don't pretend otherwise.
Viva America!
June 27th, 2007 at 7:22 amChurch of God, I don't think so. They build their church by selling god to the poor. The church investments that are made in wall street are questionable. So, is this church of god or another corrupt religions leadership who claim to speak for god. These people have build their church on back of poor and then left them out.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:41 amPrimus - what is not pertinent? The fact that you want religion injected into the US government? Or that you want science taught with Creationism as its foundation?
Guess that might explain it, then.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:01 amThe fact that a total loon (!) like Roberts can be at the helm of a university is groundbreakingly incomprehensible. This is a fellow that 'thinks' god is speaking to him and if that were true god would be a terrible liar because the things Pat says that god said are simply....groundbreakingly incomprehensible. In 2004 Pat said god told him that 2005 would be a great year for Bush and the war on terror(!). And in 2005, god told Pat exactly the same for 2006! Also, in both 'godversations' god supposedly told Pat that in 2005 and 06 there would be a massive amount of miracles and Bush would have win after win after win. Someone lock him up already, mkay? He is insulting my god and I'm not taking it from an idiot, malignant and self-centered freak like him or anyone who can even stand to be in Pat's presence. Pat is as good a human as Bush is president.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:09 aminteresting thanks!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:26 pmIs it just me, or does Pat Robertson resemble Java the Hut more each day?
Comment by David — June 27, 2007 @ 1:24 am
It's you.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:11 pmDIZGUSTING. rudy is a pig. that picture made me want to barf.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:37 pmPat and Rudy - Butt surfing, cross-dressing buddies - Who knew Pat would finally come out of the closet?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:51 pmThe worst part of all this is that these bungholes actually have to kiss the rings of these religious fanatics to get street cred for their campaigns. The only peep of opposition I've heard out of any of them was Obama a few days ago talking about faith being highjacked for political purposes. Of course, he was talking to another religious bunch when he said it. The irony and pathos overwhelms me sometimes.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:55 pmCT V_1
Sounds like you're in favor of Regent University, as it graduates people just as Harvard, Iowa State, Liberty, or any community college in the nation. So there should be no worries then that Mitt and Rudy (and countless others) pander to them as opposed to any other school.
Did you graduate from Regent?
June 27th, 2007 at 2:17 pmA couple of whack jobs. Anyone who buys into either of them is too. There, I said it. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state?
June 27th, 2007 at 2:31 pmHey....If the government gave me $13 Million dollars, like they gave to Idiot Pat's right-wing TV sermon, the 700 club, I could have a lot more influence also.
I have to ask:
Why is a far right-wing religious organization receiving any U.S. Tax money?
Why is it always quietly done under the rug, or behind the door?
Power, Politics, Money, Secrecy,and Religion are the tools these people use ....all so republicans can obtain power and keep all the rest of us from knowing what is really going on.
I want religion and secrecy out of my government NOW!
June 27th, 2007 at 2:37 pmWhat in my post, CTV2, would lead you to believe I supported Regent University? No, I didn't graduate from Regent. I graduated from a respectable liberal arts college in Pennsylvania. Perhaps you're a Regent U alum, considering your complete misreading of my post. Or did you have your dog read it to you?
June 27th, 2007 at 2:40 pmi just lost any respect i have left for this guy ...
June 27th, 2007 at 2:55 pmOH! BARF!! How low can Rudy go to get the votes of the Rep. "base"?! What a phony!
June 27th, 2007 at 3:07 pmYuk-a phoney Catholic with a hateful Evangelical--sounds like the majority of the Supreme Court and a certain Alfred E. Newman-type dolt living at 1600 Pennsy Ave.!! as for commentor "gong" comment 136-how do you admit in public you had any respect for Rudy and ever again to hope to be take seriously?? the Guy is a liar and a sleezeball, at best. Just ask his former wife, Donna Hanover-or- his kids who refuse to mention his name-yeah-real family values-huh Pat??? you two can just go molest alter boys--and call the GOP in the morning!!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 3:47 pmIgnorance is BLISS and these fools are in their GLORY. This IDIOT gullianni praises Ignorance, Stupidity and Complacency, WOW1 now he wants to be the PUPPET of the FASCIST Religious Right, No clor they didn't HATE, the same for Creed and Nationality. I know this ANYONE that aligns themselves with the HATE MONGERS on the right is automatically cancelled and LOST my VOTE.
Praises a loser college that is now on its knees salivating on the zipper of those that assign school ratings. I know if they tell me they went to regents they do not have a JOB.
June 27th, 2007 at 4:47 pmhis comment to crazy pat sounded disingenuous.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pmhe was mayor of a city that has one of the most prestigious law schools in the world. no wonder he sounded like he was oozing shit.
I want to hear from the gay couple he lived with during his divorce!!! I want them to speak out and tell the rest of us what the h3ll is going on!?!
June 28th, 2007 at 7:45 amThis guy used to be the guy that both sides could somewhat agree was a good man.. he's really lost me...
June 28th, 2007 at 7:46 amThe little credibility he had left, went out the window with that one. God save us from another leader like that!
June 28th, 2007 at 8:09 amNext stop for rudy will be bob jones u. I think even big head fred is going to have to pay homage soon. I don't suppose mit the nit wit will be visiting liberty, regent, or bob jones. I don't think they will invite a mormon.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:16 amHave no fear dear Americans, read your Constitution and Declaration, the foundation of your nation is eroding and without such support the very fabric shal collapse.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:31 amBetter to have God-fearing Republicans with power, than the Bush-bashing anti-American liberals and leftists. Rudy will be a great President!
June 28th, 2007 at 8:34 amWhy is regent embracing Guliani? He's pro choice!
June 28th, 2007 at 1:01 pmYOU CAN'T EXPECT ANYTHING FROM A PIG, EXCEPT A GRUNT
June 28th, 2007 at 1:21 pmRudy Giuliani or Vampire Ghouliani?
June 28th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhat, we should be surprised?
June 28th, 2007 at 5:37 pmif elected, Giuliani would put ultra RW judges on the courts so he's really not pro choice. That's why Robertson is embracing him.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:04 amhey..im a regent grad...went there cuz it was near the beach and i could get in...some freaks...lots of normal folks...passed the bar the first time...have practiced for 12 yrs...made good money.....have a wife/kids..drink jamison irish whiskey fm time to time..dont really hate anyone..laugh alot...enjoy life...same with lot of my cohorts there..
July 1st, 2007 at 8:54 amIf you want to see the real story of Regent University School of Law go to Rip-off and Regent University School of Law.
July 17th, 2007 at 1:06 pmPlease go under Google.com. They blocked under yahoo.com.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pm