You maybe innocent until proven guilty, but for the 2 ½ years “witnesses” have sat in jail they have been treated the same or worse then someone who is convicted, because if you are convicted you are in a place where you can watch tv, listen to the radio, go to a church service or hug your mother at a visit (the federal prison systems are full of programs if you are convicted) – these people aren’t even given this because they are UNCONVICTED – waiting to prove what the government doesn’t want to spend the money to prove. (ie paying to find Angela Pickerton’s body)

I guess it doesn’t matter if we violate other people’s rights to make sure we put this guy to death, and save some money. My warning to you, be very careful who you know and what you might see. You to could stumble into a situation like this and spend an indefinite amount of time in a small cell with 3 books, and 3 other people – innocent until proven guilty. I hope if it happens to you, your county jail doesn’t serve green bologna and left over fair food.

Comment by Jake — June 28, 2007 @ 9:18 am

Jake, I am truly sorry to have to say this, but I have to be perfectly honest with you.

What you said is all well and good in theory, but the simple fact is that I don’t believe that people like you are “reasonable”.

Comment by Jake — June 28, 2007 @ 7:27 am

Jake,

Sorry to be so late getting back to prove I’m alive and well. My response was to your first statement. It appears that you wish to use your personal; religious beliefs as authority for us to “enjoy having people executed.” Please explain (I have not read previous posts, so I do not know if anyone else asked this), in what way does this use of religion to justify the taking of another human’s life any different than the use of religion to justify the taking of human life by the Islamic fundamentalists? (Apologies if you’ve already answered that one this thread.)

My response had nothing whatsoever to do with your second statement. As to my opinion regarding the question at the end, as the Prime Minister enjoys saying, I refer the gentlemen to the remarks I made some time ago. (Six months.)

For the record, my concern is for the state having the authority to take a person’s life, especially when the person in question has been safely confined from the society at risk. Killing in self-defense is a whole different category, and has nothing whatsoever to with capital punishment being used as a deterrent to crime, which it is not.

As to expenses, it is my understanding that once a person is sentenced to death, an automatic appeals process begins at taxpayer expense (irrelevant to blame anyone, it’s a constitutional right). This expense can, throughout its duration cost us well over a million dollars, and I’ve heard as high as two. (No, I can’t quote you any source. Perhaps these people have answers to those questions.

Since this process already takes years to complete, and the expense of housing such a prisoner must still be borne by taxpayers, why not eliminate the lengthy, expensive taxpayer-funded-two-million-dollar appeals, and just sentence the guy to life in prison without possibility of parole? A few years of that, and they’ll be begging you to kill them. And that’s when they start feeling punished. I do believe that most convicted murderers would rather be put to death than live out their natural lives in prison. So what’s a better punishment than to give them what they dread most – Life, not Death.

I’ll be leaving this thread now. I apologize if my remarks have offended anyone.

Alberto Gonzalez, Dick Cheney, George Bush, I. Scooter Libbey, Carl Rove and the rest have all committed crimes in the conduct of their offices. If your only concern is to get them out of office then wait just under 2 years and it will happen. If your concern is justice then call your Congressional Reps. and Senators and let them know. When one of the other ones who is not from your district or state stands up and comitts an act of bravery call them and let them know your satisfaction with their new position. As for the rest of them put their proverbial feet to the fire. Speak up at church if you go there. Redmind the parish that there are many other evil besides a right to choose, just imagine if the little two striper from germany had been aborted, how many lives would have been saved. Would our world be better or worse, would a more evil despost have appeared. The vectors of possibility are endless, suffice it to say that letting a child be born and then eat lead and have crappy nutrition as it grows is just as large a sin as aborting it for the child life is destroied regardless, any potential is lost.

RR

lived and played in Vail for six years

As I said, don’t claim him.

Both of my parents graduated from TCU. My dad went on baseball and basketball scholarships and my mom was a Kappa. I lived just off of campus for years. It’s my Fort Worth stomping ground. Go Frogs!

Welcome back! 8,500 feet? Telluride? I think that Aspen is at 7,600 ft (could be less). Beautiful! On behalf of the soldiers, we sincerely appreciate your wife’s help. Many have got a tough road ahead. Hawaii must be hard to leave. I’m going in November. Lived in Manhattan for a year but missed my mountains. So serene. Climb, bike, hike and raft . . . no where but here!

I use to live high up in the Rockies around 8500 feet, where upon I then moved to the beach in Lahaina, HI. I am planning on moving to Colorado once again in the not to distant future, New York in not the place for us. My wife wants to work for the Military offering psychological counseling to the familys of soldiers and to help provent domestic violence in the military

Once Jake reconfigures, he may no longer be a troll. Oooh la la.

Perhaps he has seen the light. He may need goggles. The Rocky Mountain sunshine can be overwhelming.

A little John Deuseldorff (a man from Fort Worth, Texas & NM) interleude:

I am the eagle, I live in high country, in rocky cathedrals that reach for the sky . . . I am the hawk and there’s blood on my feathers , the time is still turning, it soon will be dry ….

Oh, we are far too lucky out here . . .

Stay on your Congressmen b/c they seem determined to screw it up for us here. They’re drilling holes and shaving mountains at a record pace. It’s bad. Everyone needs a rocky moutain high . . .If its messed up for us, it’s messed up for you.

money is alway the key and if every student and alumni that was against the library would leave and withdraw their cash then the regents might take notice. If not then is it really a place you would like to recieve a degree from.

Laura Bush, Dick Cheney and I think Rummy were all on the board when this hair-brained scheme was hatched. Harriett Myers is also an alum (we’re not proud). Kick these turkeys out. Lay their eggs shere they were hatched. Why the hell won’t Harvard take em? Even Yale bent over once. Texas has enough squatters.

Over rated.

Must say though, SMU is royally screwing up. Dub’ya’s presidential library and rightwing think tank. Get a friggin’ clue.

Go to savesmu.com and complain. Website formed by a nationwide group of Methodist ministers. Thank GOD.