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	<title>Comments on: Key cloture vote on Senate immigration bill</title>
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		<title>By: All-American Hero</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892921</link>
		<dc:creator>All-American Hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good. I agree that immigration reform is needed but this bill was POS.

More proof that our democratic system still has SOME functionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good. I agree that immigration reform is needed but this bill was POS.</p>
<p>More proof that our democratic system still has SOME functionality.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892921', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892534</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seal up the borders first, Ted.  Tight as a drum.

Then we can talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seal up the borders first, Ted.  Tight as a drum.</p>
<p>Then we can talk.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892534', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892445</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;and the band played on

Comment by James Reed â€” June 28, 2007 @ 4:24 pm&lt;/em&gt;


I advanced the possibility of agreeing on a date and spreading the word for a national stay at home protest or strike at home and because I have different views about global warming, immigration, guns and other wedge issues i was personally rejected along with a possible safe, easy and cost effective method of protest. All anyone need agree on if that the majority of the population wants the Bushco out and the war ended and Constitutional restoration. Why don&#039;t you help organize a national day of protest at home where no work is done and no money trades hands!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>and the band played on</p>
<p>Comment by James Reed â€” June 28, 2007 @ 4:24 pm</em></p>
<p>I advanced the possibility of agreeing on a date and spreading the word for a national stay at home protest or strike at home and because I have different views about global warming, immigration, guns and other wedge issues i was personally rejected along with a possible safe, easy and cost effective method of protest. All anyone need agree on if that the majority of the population wants the Bushco out and the war ended and Constitutional restoration. Why don&#8217;t you help organize a national day of protest at home where no work is done and no money trades hands!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892445', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892293</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the band played on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the band played on<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892293', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: espo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892274</link>
		<dc:creator>espo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all the new senators from 2006 voted against it, when will the rest realize, that there are more important things happening that are affecting AMERICAN CITIZENS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the new senators from 2006 voted against it, when will the rest realize, that there are more important things happening that are affecting AMERICAN CITIZENS!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892274', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892245</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone serious, come on lets go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone serious, come on lets go<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892245', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892213</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time for a second revolution, just not one with guns. Each and every congressman and senator up for re-election needs to go. Start up a writ in campaign in your state file the appropriate petitions and filing fees with the appropriate Sec. of State and elect someone that is not a democrat or a republican but is instead a non affiliated regular citizen (nurse, electrician, bus driver) who understand the trials of life no millionare can. See the pendulum swing then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time for a second revolution, just not one with guns. Each and every congressman and senator up for re-election needs to go. Start up a writ in campaign in your state file the appropriate petitions and filing fees with the appropriate Sec. of State and elect someone that is not a democrat or a republican but is instead a non affiliated regular citizen (nurse, electrician, bus driver) who understand the trials of life no millionare can. See the pendulum swing then.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892213', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892162</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by Chadwick â€” June 28, 2007 @ 3:25 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Be cautious brother, there are creatures here that will claim that holding a national strike/day off/home protest would be viewed by the government as an act of insurgency against the Government even though we are the government Ahahahahahaha. BARTELBEE may lecture you with his minions in an attempt to shut down public discourse, commentary, debate, action, civil protest and ending the war and restoring the Constitution and impeachment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Comment by Chadwick â€” June 28, 2007 @ 3:25 pm</em></p>
<p>Be cautious brother, there are creatures here that will claim that holding a national strike/day off/home protest would be viewed by the government as an act of insurgency against the Government even though we are the government Ahahahahahaha. BARTELBEE may lecture you with his minions in an attempt to shut down public discourse, commentary, debate, action, civil protest and ending the war and restoring the Constitution and impeachment!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892162', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892156</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we just agree on this issue some what</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we just agree on this issue some what<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892156', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892152</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do not run</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do not run<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892152', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892149</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>getaclue fr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>getaclue fr<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892149', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomrings</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892146</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It was a stupid billâ€¦.let it go.

Enforce the laws we already have in place, and letâ€™s move on to getting out of Iraq and impeaching this sorry-assed administration.

Comment by Zooey â€” June 28, 2007 @ 1:28 pm&lt;/em&gt;

So we can&#039;t talk about illegal aliens anymore? All you people do is talk about wedge issues but the moment something doesn&#039;t go your way you move to quash all debate. It looks like the thread is about the immigration bill and it needs to be stated that it will eventually be back! People can&#039;t even agree to hold a day of protest and then there are all of the idiots claiming that taking a day off is sedition LOL. We need to talk about why these wedge issues have us reduced to protesting from free speech zones. Yesterday it seemed to me that this was going to go all the way. Now that it failed there is at least some breathing room! Some of the republicans and democrats were listening to their constituency. Thank GOD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It was a stupid billâ€¦.let it go.</p>
<p>Enforce the laws we already have in place, and letâ€™s move on to getting out of Iraq and impeaching this sorry-assed administration.</p>
<p>Comment by Zooey â€” June 28, 2007 @ 1:28 pm</em></p>
<p>So we can&#8217;t talk about illegal aliens anymore? All you people do is talk about wedge issues but the moment something doesn&#8217;t go your way you move to quash all debate. It looks like the thread is about the immigration bill and it needs to be stated that it will eventually be back! People can&#8217;t even agree to hold a day of protest and then there are all of the idiots claiming that taking a day off is sedition LOL. We need to talk about why these wedge issues have us reduced to protesting from free speech zones. Yesterday it seemed to me that this was going to go all the way. Now that it failed there is at least some breathing room! Some of the republicans and democrats were listening to their constituency. Thank GOD!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892146', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chadwick</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892127</link>
		<dc:creator>Chadwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republican and Democratic bases need to align together and oppose their elitist masters.  Only when a fraternity of middle-class Americans, Left and Right, strive together against the corporatists can the REAL America, the world&#039;s great dream, be again realized.  

Down with the Elite!  Up with the People!

Take back our Nation by force, if necessary.

It&#039;s time for the Second American Revolution, because, as Jefferson said, the Tree of Liberty must at times be watered by the blood of Patriots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republican and Democratic bases need to align together and oppose their elitist masters.  Only when a fraternity of middle-class Americans, Left and Right, strive together against the corporatists can the REAL America, the world&#8217;s great dream, be again realized.  </p>
<p>Down with the Elite!  Up with the People!</p>
<p>Take back our Nation by force, if necessary.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for the Second American Revolution, because, as Jefferson said, the Tree of Liberty must at times be watered by the blood of Patriots.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892127', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892035</link>
		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yes Zooey,
but how could a good wedge issue be driven in just prior to an election if the sane path were followed?
Comment by James Reed &lt;/em&gt;

Yes, that would be problematic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yes Zooey,<br />
but how could a good wedge issue be driven in just prior to an election if the sane path were followed?<br />
Comment by James Reed </em></p>
<p>Yes, that would be problematic.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892035', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892018</link>
		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Never have so many citizens of all political persuasions been so unanaimous â€” and never has the arrogance of power been on such display.&lt;/i&gt;

That is pretty much the oddity of the situation. It&#039;s rare that the far left and the far right agree, but when they do, it&#039;s probably for a reason...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Never have so many citizens of all political persuasions been so unanaimous â€” and never has the arrogance of power been on such display.</i></p>
<p>That is pretty much the oddity of the situation. It&#8217;s rare that the far left and the far right agree, but when they do, it&#8217;s probably for a reason&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892018', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3892007</link>
		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25

The Democrats are trying to have both ways. They are trying to back the President and push the immigration bill with their left hand, and point at the President and call his bill a poor one with their right.

Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25</p>
<p>The Democrats are trying to have both ways. They are trying to back the President and push the immigration bill with their left hand, and point at the President and call his bill a poor one with their right.</p>
<p>Hmmmm.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3892007', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Swank</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-3891762</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Swank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For once the republicans have actually helped the working man.&quot; -James Reed. I know most of you here would rather work for the goverment than a private corporation where you would be and are held accountable,unlike let&#039;s say,the DMV or Airport Screeners,who do a real fine job right? Again the goverment is failing the will of the people concerning immigration. Close the damn borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For once the republicans have actually helped the working man.&#8221; -James Reed. I know most of you here would rather work for the goverment than a private corporation where you would be and are held accountable,unlike let&#8217;s say,the DMV or Airport Screeners,who do a real fine job right? Again the goverment is failing the will of the people concerning immigration. Close the damn borders.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3891762', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3891706</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Zooey,

   but how could a good wedge issue be driven in just prior to an election if the sane path were followed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Zooey,</p>
<p>   but how could a good wedge issue be driven in just prior to an election if the sane path were followed?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3891706', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3891698</link>
		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a stupid bill....let it go.

Enforce the laws we already have in place, and let&#039;s move on to getting out of Iraq and impeaching this sorry-assed administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a stupid bill&#8230;.let it go.</p>
<p>Enforce the laws we already have in place, and let&#8217;s move on to getting out of Iraq and impeaching this sorry-assed administration.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3891698', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/key-cloture-vote-on-senate-immigration-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-3891697</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go after employers? Like Tyson chicken who take busses to the boarder in Texas and pick up loads of illegals and then take them back to the factory and lock them in the factory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go after employers? Like Tyson chicken who take busses to the boarder in Texas and pick up loads of illegals and then take them back to the factory and lock them in the factory?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3891697', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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