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	<title>Comments on: Pelosi: &#8216;Hate Radio&#8217; Hijacked Political Discourse With &#8216;Xenophobic, Anti-Immigrant&#8217; Rhetoric</title>
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		<title>By: Thommo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3930113</link>
		<dc:creator>Thommo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone has a right to their point of view, and to express it.

But when you say things like &quot;you left wing F@ucks&quot;, then it seems some what disingenuous to say in the next sentence: &quot;Im not right or left i&#039;m an independent&quot;. Your first comment pretty much belies that you are not centrist, and certainly not likely to accept ideas from the left.

Just so you know, people in the rest of the Anglosphere don&#039;t even see the Democrats as a party from the left, but then, politics isn&#039;t so &#039;party line&#039; driven as in the US.

On another point, talkback radio is much listened to by people who often are not in a position to access other services at the time. This could be for a number of reasons: listening whilst driving, listening whilst doing manual labour in workshops, cleaning at home. For example, in China where car ownership is low, the influence of radio is negligible compared to TV and newspapers, whilst the penetration of inexpensive internet cafes actually makes the web more accessible there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has a right to their point of view, and to express it.</p>
<p>But when you say things like &#8220;you left wing F@ucks&#8221;, then it seems some what disingenuous to say in the next sentence: &#8220;Im not right or left i&#8217;m an independent&#8221;. Your first comment pretty much belies that you are not centrist, and certainly not likely to accept ideas from the left.</p>
<p>Just so you know, people in the rest of the Anglosphere don&#8217;t even see the Democrats as a party from the left, but then, politics isn&#8217;t so &#8216;party line&#8217; driven as in the US.</p>
<p>On another point, talkback radio is much listened to by people who often are not in a position to access other services at the time. This could be for a number of reasons: listening whilst driving, listening whilst doing manual labour in workshops, cleaning at home. For example, in China where car ownership is low, the influence of radio is negligible compared to TV and newspapers, whilst the penetration of inexpensive internet cafes actually makes the web more accessible there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3930113', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: randy moss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3920051</link>
		<dc:creator>randy moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way to answer your question.The KKK has been marginalized and no one takes them serious anyway. Millions of latinos and Mexicans listen to La Raza and they do take La Raza seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way to answer your question.The KKK has been marginalized and no one takes them serious anyway. Millions of latinos and Mexicans listen to La Raza and they do take La Raza seriously.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920051', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: randy moss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3920049</link>
		<dc:creator>randy moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Raza is a pro illegal organization who thinks the white man is inslaving Mexicans. Ok remember the word Illegal. They dont belong here to begin with and if they want to leave then they can at any time. Michael Savage just calls it as he sees it.It&#039;s really not that hard to see John. Take off your blinders open your eyes and hopefully the sun will shine through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Raza is a pro illegal organization who thinks the white man is inslaving Mexicans. Ok remember the word Illegal. They dont belong here to begin with and if they want to leave then they can at any time. Michael Savage just calls it as he sees it.It&#8217;s really not that hard to see John. Take off your blinders open your eyes and hopefully the sun will shine through.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920049', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: randy moss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3920033</link>
		<dc:creator>randy moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats your point John?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats your point John?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920033', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John H</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3916848</link>
		<dc:creator>John H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If La Raza â€œis the most stone racist group Iâ€™ve ever seen in this country!â€ what cave has Michael Savage been living in. Apparently Savage never saw the KKK. I have seen racism in the military--but then Mike Savage never served in the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If La Raza â€œis the most stone racist group Iâ€™ve ever seen in this country!â€ what cave has Michael Savage been living in. Apparently Savage never saw the KKK. I have seen racism in the military&#8211;but then Mike Savage never served in the military.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3916848', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: randy moss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3912574</link>
		<dc:creator>randy moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many of you know and have said here a majority of american people do not want the whole face of america to change . That is exactly what will happen if americans let all these non citizen mostly poor and uneducated border jumpers stay.Why are people afraid to say exactly what they feel. Why do you even care what other less smarter people think of you .If they have a problem with it guess what ? They have the problem not me or you. Let them pay for the health care of these people. If they go to a hospital and use the health care system they leave and thats that no social so they dont pay.I go to hospital and if I dont pay they send me to equifax and ruin my credit....And Im an American how is that fair!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many of you know and have said here a majority of american people do not want the whole face of america to change . That is exactly what will happen if americans let all these non citizen mostly poor and uneducated border jumpers stay.Why are people afraid to say exactly what they feel. Why do you even care what other less smarter people think of you .If they have a problem with it guess what ? They have the problem not me or you. Let them pay for the health care of these people. If they go to a hospital and use the health care system they leave and thats that no social so they dont pay.I go to hospital and if I dont pay they send me to equifax and ruin my credit&#8230;.And Im an American how is that fair!!!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3912574', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: randy moss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3911416</link>
		<dc:creator>randy moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way Bush should be hung by his short and curlies too. For welcoming all the invaders along with you left wing F@ucks. Im not right or left in an independent.And an American who would like for my family to grow up in America not MEXICO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way Bush should be hung by his short and curlies too. For welcoming all the invaders along with you left wing F@ucks. Im not right or left in an independent.And an American who would like for my family to grow up in America not MEXICO!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3911416', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: randy moss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3911383</link>
		<dc:creator>randy moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John sux I mean sacks I mean BALL SACK! You Left wing F-ucks can choke on your coolaid all day long if you want and I would prefer that.But It&#039;s a fact that Dems and Libs are as your Moniker implies Jack ASSes! An its also a fact that most dems are ugly. Grow some B#alls if you think you are smarter than most conservatives that shows how stupid you really are. And as far as Illegals go if the Us government won&#039;t do something about it.Americans should. Like going into Quick trip in the am and wearing offensive anti illegal shirts and doing other things to make them feel unwanted because they are unwanted.People are just to afraid to say what they really feel from fear of being called racist ...I personally don&#039;t give A Fu-ck what you or anyone else thinks and screw politically correct......And Nancy Polocie should be hung by her tits. That B#itch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John sux I mean sacks I mean BALL SACK! You Left wing F-ucks can choke on your coolaid all day long if you want and I would prefer that.But It&#8217;s a fact that Dems and Libs are as your Moniker implies Jack ASSes! An its also a fact that most dems are ugly. Grow some B#alls if you think you are smarter than most conservatives that shows how stupid you really are. And as far as Illegals go if the Us government won&#8217;t do something about it.Americans should. Like going into Quick trip in the am and wearing offensive anti illegal shirts and doing other things to make them feel unwanted because they are unwanted.People are just to afraid to say what they really feel from fear of being called racist &#8230;I personally don&#8217;t give A Fu-ck what you or anyone else thinks and screw politically correct&#8230;&#8230;And Nancy Polocie should be hung by her tits. That B#itch<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3911383', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stars in the Sky</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3900975</link>
		<dc:creator>Stars in the Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use to work for La Raza and some other pro Hispanic Organizations. La Raza in their private meetings talked about how the whites stole their land and how whites suppress them. The illegal alien is a citizen in the US and they are being enslaved by the whites. They want more Hispanics to show their power to the White House and want a Hispanics to overpower America. They gave me a hard time for not speaking Spanish correctly and so forth. I will never work for a minority right non-profit organization again. I have to agree with Mr. Savage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use to work for La Raza and some other pro Hispanic Organizations. La Raza in their private meetings talked about how the whites stole their land and how whites suppress them. The illegal alien is a citizen in the US and they are being enslaved by the whites. They want more Hispanics to show their power to the White House and want a Hispanics to overpower America. They gave me a hard time for not speaking Spanish correctly and so forth. I will never work for a minority right non-profit organization again. I have to agree with Mr. Savage<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3900975', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3898131</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus is noting but a pit Yorkie.  He or she doesn&#039;t even have the guts to not sensor his or her own posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus is noting but a pit Yorkie.  He or she doesn&#8217;t even have the guts to not sensor his or her own posts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3898131', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3898117</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#76

But the left doesn&#039;t think for themselves and more or less than the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#76</p>
<p>But the left doesn&#8217;t think for themselves and more or less than the right.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3898117', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3897227</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO wonder Pelosi won&#039;t impeach Bush. They are in a conspiracy together to destroy the working people of America. OFF with their heads! Traitors, enemies of the people, TERRORISTS are in OFFICE, TREASON!!! IMPEACH Peolsi !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO wonder Pelosi won&#8217;t impeach Bush. They are in a conspiracy together to destroy the working people of America. OFF with their heads! Traitors, enemies of the people, TERRORISTS are in OFFICE, TREASON!!! IMPEACH Peolsi !!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3897227', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: peacenprosperity</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3895934</link>
		<dc:creator>peacenprosperity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Seal the borders. Move the National Guard bases in all the border states to the border and have all the National Guardsman in the country do their training there. Afterall we will be fighting in the desert for a long time to come.
2) Seize the occupational licenses, business licenses, liquor licenses, building permits of any one caught employing illegal aliens. They will not be allowed to even apply for the licenses back for 1 year.
3) Cut off all welfare and social aid to illegal aliens (except emergency medical treatment). Do not educate children who are in the country illegally. No drivers licenses. No work permits. Withhold federal funds from any state or city that is a sanctuary city.
4) Revoke the Certificate of Occupancy for any dwelling that is rented to an illegal alien and barr the property from being eligible for a new one for 1 year.
5) The law regarding children born in the US being citizens was enacted for the children of slaves. We donâ€™t even have to change the law or the Constitution, it was always misused. Just have the Supreme Court clarify.
6) Revoke the charter of any bank doing business with illegal aliens.
7) Strengthen the requirements for citzenship and streamline the process to a maximum process time of 1 year. Do away with chain immigration. If we have 5 spots left and a qualified applicant wants to bring 3 members of his family, if they all pass the requirements we wil have 1 spot left.
8) Provide free transportation to the country of the illegal aliens choosing.
Do all this and you can just ignore the illegal aliens as they head for the border.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Seal the borders. Move the National Guard bases in all the border states to the border and have all the National Guardsman in the country do their training there. Afterall we will be fighting in the desert for a long time to come.<br />
2) Seize the occupational licenses, business licenses, liquor licenses, building permits of any one caught employing illegal aliens. They will not be allowed to even apply for the licenses back for 1 year.<br />
3) Cut off all welfare and social aid to illegal aliens (except emergency medical treatment). Do not educate children who are in the country illegally. No drivers licenses. No work permits. Withhold federal funds from any state or city that is a sanctuary city.<br />
4) Revoke the Certificate of Occupancy for any dwelling that is rented to an illegal alien and barr the property from being eligible for a new one for 1 year.<br />
5) The law regarding children born in the US being citizens was enacted for the children of slaves. We donâ€™t even have to change the law or the Constitution, it was always misused. Just have the Supreme Court clarify.<br />
6) Revoke the charter of any bank doing business with illegal aliens.<br />
7) Strengthen the requirements for citzenship and streamline the process to a maximum process time of 1 year. Do away with chain immigration. If we have 5 spots left and a qualified applicant wants to bring 3 members of his family, if they all pass the requirements we wil have 1 spot left.<br />
8) Provide free transportation to the country of the illegal aliens choosing.<br />
Do all this and you can just ignore the illegal aliens as they head for the border.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895934', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: FloatingRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>FloatingRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amnesty = forgiving somebody for their crimes

Pelosi complains the problem is that people arenâ€™t willing to forgive; yet she denies this is about amnesty.

This joker doesnâ€™t even realize that sheâ€™s contradicting herself.  Or maybe she does but she thinks her constituency is too stupid to grasp this fact.  Either Pelosi is an idiot or she thinks everybody else is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amnesty = forgiving somebody for their crimes</p>
<p>Pelosi complains the problem is that people arenâ€™t willing to forgive; yet she denies this is about amnesty.</p>
<p>This joker doesnâ€™t even realize that sheâ€™s contradicting herself.  Or maybe she does but she thinks her constituency is too stupid to grasp this fact.  Either Pelosi is an idiot or she thinks everybody else is.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3895053</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Though conservatives may take up 91 percent of the talk radio airwaves, talk radio is not representative of the American people, who broadly supported the key components of the legislation.&quot;

Nice try TP by slipping that the American people support the &quot;key components of the legislation&quot;.  Yes I support many of the key components also but there are components that I would never entertain.  For one the bill forbids the federal government to use any information included in an application for amnesty in national-security or criminal investigations.
Just because you might support parts of the bill doesn&#039;t mean that the American people what the bill to pass...because other parts of the bill are crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Though conservatives may take up 91 percent of the talk radio airwaves, talk radio is not representative of the American people, who broadly supported the key components of the legislation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice try TP by slipping that the American people support the &#8220;key components of the legislation&#8221;.  Yes I support many of the key components also but there are components that I would never entertain.  For one the bill forbids the federal government to use any information included in an application for amnesty in national-security or criminal investigations.<br />
Just because you might support parts of the bill doesn&#8217;t mean that the American people what the bill to pass&#8230;because other parts of the bill are crap.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895053', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gekkobear</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3894499</link>
		<dc:creator>Gekkobear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO, Rasmussen&#039;s poll shows 50% oppose the bill, 22% approve, 28% undecided...

Of the decided, 50 / 72 comes to 70% opposed.  That 30% of those decided for the bill must be ladies for you to be claiming &quot;broad support&quot;?  And I think they prefer being called chickies to broads... but I could be wrong there.

Oddly, polls of actual people finding out how they felt about this specific bill in particular (not it&#039;s general ideas, or &quot;key provisions&quot; but the bill itself) doesn&#039;t give you &quot;broad support&quot; it gives you more than 2/1 opposition.  You really have to dance aroudn teh facts to make the claims you did with any semblence of credibility.

But I&#039;m sure the fact that a majority of those polled (again, who weren&#039;t undecided) believe that doing nothing is better than the bill that failed (45% to 32%) doesn&#039;t deter you at all.

Go ahead and fictionalize the bill, deal with small portions that people like, not the nightmare it was; and tell yourself that it was popular, and the right wing fringe killed it.  But don&#039;t claim to be a reality-based community while dealing solely with a pleasant fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO, Rasmussen&#8217;s poll shows 50% oppose the bill, 22% approve, 28% undecided&#8230;</p>
<p>Of the decided, 50 / 72 comes to 70% opposed.  That 30% of those decided for the bill must be ladies for you to be claiming &#8220;broad support&#8221;?  And I think they prefer being called chickies to broads&#8230; but I could be wrong there.</p>
<p>Oddly, polls of actual people finding out how they felt about this specific bill in particular (not it&#8217;s general ideas, or &#8220;key provisions&#8221; but the bill itself) doesn&#8217;t give you &#8220;broad support&#8221; it gives you more than 2/1 opposition.  You really have to dance aroudn teh facts to make the claims you did with any semblence of credibility.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m sure the fact that a majority of those polled (again, who weren&#8217;t undecided) believe that doing nothing is better than the bill that failed (45% to 32%) doesn&#8217;t deter you at all.</p>
<p>Go ahead and fictionalize the bill, deal with small portions that people like, not the nightmare it was; and tell yourself that it was popular, and the right wing fringe killed it.  But don&#8217;t claim to be a reality-based community while dealing solely with a pleasant fiction.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3894499', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kralizec</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3894296</link>
		<dc:creator>Kralizec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Though conservatives may take up 91 percent of the talk radio airwaves, talk radio is not representative of the American people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s much like saying that conservatives ride 91 percent of unicorns.  There are no unicorns, but plenty of horses, cars, airplanes, and bicycles; no one has a monopoly on them.  There are no &quot;talk radio airwaves,&quot; but plenty of radio, TV, cable, satellite, Internet, and print means of conveying a point to others; no one has a monopoly on them.

As for talk radio&#039;s not being &quot;representative of the American people,&quot; neither am I, and neither are you, Ryan Powers.  ThinkProgress.org isn&#039;t &quot;representative of the American people&quot;; neither is HotAir.org, nor CBS News, nor Fox News.  Neither you nor I am here to be representative of anyone--unless you&#039;re keeping something from me, sweetheart.  We&#039;re all out here to say what seems to be good or just or beautiful to &lt;em&gt;us&lt;/em&gt;, and the last thing we want to do is worry about whether we&#039;re being &quot;representative&quot; of the same, lame opinions other people have.  Isn&#039;t that right, Ryan?  I mean, you&#039;re Ryan F&#039;n Powers, not just some shill for &quot;majority opinion.&quot;   And just like me, you have better things to do than defend yourself and others from equal-time bean-counters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Though conservatives may take up 91 percent of the talk radio airwaves, talk radio is not representative of the American people.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s much like saying that conservatives ride 91 percent of unicorns.  There are no unicorns, but plenty of horses, cars, airplanes, and bicycles; no one has a monopoly on them.  There are no &#8220;talk radio airwaves,&#8221; but plenty of radio, TV, cable, satellite, Internet, and print means of conveying a point to others; no one has a monopoly on them.</p>
<p>As for talk radio&#8217;s not being &#8220;representative of the American people,&#8221; neither am I, and neither are you, Ryan Powers.  ThinkProgress.org isn&#8217;t &#8220;representative of the American people&#8221;; neither is HotAir.org, nor CBS News, nor Fox News.  Neither you nor I am here to be representative of anyone&#8211;unless you&#8217;re keeping something from me, sweetheart.  We&#8217;re all out here to say what seems to be good or just or beautiful to <em>us</em>, and the last thing we want to do is worry about whether we&#8217;re being &#8220;representative&#8221; of the same, lame opinions other people have.  Isn&#8217;t that right, Ryan?  I mean, you&#8217;re Ryan F&#8217;n Powers, not just some shill for &#8220;majority opinion.&#8221;   And just like me, you have better things to do than defend yourself and others from equal-time bean-counters.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3894296', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ruthiness</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3894113</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FURTHERMORE... on Sirius there is PLENTY of liberal left wing radio channels. It just so happens that what THEY want to talk about the most is being GAY instead of really important things like current politics. Is that our fault?  They have their slot on Sirius - there is no &quot;domination&quot; of radio air waves here. 

AND.. if you support the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE that means that ALL the left wing TV media will have to make way for some conservative TV media. Of course, they will try to say &quot;we&#039;re not left wing&quot; just like they tried to say this bill &quot;is not amnesty&quot;. Hey your programming didn&#039;t work on lots of us because we don&#039;t WATCH liberal left wing slime TV news.. I&#039;m OFF the Matrix baby...  and I see George Orwell&#039;s 1984 staring us in the FACE - just about 20 years LATE.

I am SO sick and tired of liberals like Pelosi who think they know better what is good for this country than the majority of the PEOPLE and that does not include the illegal alien INVADERS because they are NOT part of OUR COUNTRY and THEY NEVER WILL BE!

I&#039;m sick and tired of you liberals saying we are &quot;anti-immigrant&quot; and &quot;racist&quot;. Take a look at the group you are accusing of that!  That group is made up of ALL races and citizens and LEGAL immigrants alike.  The violent counter-protest in Leimert Park in LA really takes the cake when you had a bunch of commie anarchists accusing a group of BLACKS as being KKK!  Umm.. yeah right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FURTHERMORE&#8230; on Sirius there is PLENTY of liberal left wing radio channels. It just so happens that what THEY want to talk about the most is being GAY instead of really important things like current politics. Is that our fault?  They have their slot on Sirius &#8211; there is no &#8220;domination&#8221; of radio air waves here. </p>
<p>AND.. if you support the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE that means that ALL the left wing TV media will have to make way for some conservative TV media. Of course, they will try to say &#8220;we&#8217;re not left wing&#8221; just like they tried to say this bill &#8220;is not amnesty&#8221;. Hey your programming didn&#8217;t work on lots of us because we don&#8217;t WATCH liberal left wing slime TV news.. I&#8217;m OFF the Matrix baby&#8230;  and I see George Orwell&#8217;s 1984 staring us in the FACE &#8211; just about 20 years LATE.</p>
<p>I am SO sick and tired of liberals like Pelosi who think they know better what is good for this country than the majority of the PEOPLE and that does not include the illegal alien INVADERS because they are NOT part of OUR COUNTRY and THEY NEVER WILL BE!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick and tired of you liberals saying we are &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221; and &#8220;racist&#8221;. Take a look at the group you are accusing of that!  That group is made up of ALL races and citizens and LEGAL immigrants alike.  The violent counter-protest in Leimert Park in LA really takes the cake when you had a bunch of commie anarchists accusing a group of BLACKS as being KKK!  Umm.. yeah right&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3894113', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ruthiness</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3894103</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Though conservatives may take up 91 percent of the talk radio airwaves, talk radio is not representative of the American people, who broadly supported the key components of the legislation.&quot;

Not sure what &quot;people&quot; you were talking to because EVERYONE I talked to did NOT support this travesty of a bill. Perhaps you were talking to people who had no idea what was IN the bill - those are the only people who would support it besides the people who were actually asking us to bend over and take it up the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Though conservatives may take up 91 percent of the talk radio airwaves, talk radio is not representative of the American people, who broadly supported the key components of the legislation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not sure what &#8220;people&#8221; you were talking to because EVERYONE I talked to did NOT support this travesty of a bill. Perhaps you were talking to people who had no idea what was IN the bill &#8211; those are the only people who would support it besides the people who were actually asking us to bend over and take it up the ass.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3894103', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ruthiness</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/pelosi-talk-radio/comment-page-6/#comment-3894101</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Pelosi and Kennedy and all the other &quot;pro-AMNESTY&quot; Senators are a bunch of lying commies who wish to destroy this country for their own personal greed. They are the puppets of the Bilderberger brothers and the other elites at the Federal Reserve.

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!  THEY ARE TRAITORS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Pelosi and Kennedy and all the other &#8220;pro-AMNESTY&#8221; Senators are a bunch of lying commies who wish to destroy this country for their own personal greed. They are the puppets of the Bilderberger brothers and the other elites at the Federal Reserve.</p>
<p>OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!  THEY ARE TRAITORS!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3894101', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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