Voinovich Lashes Out At Hannity: ‘You’re Not Going To Intimidate Me,’ Then Hangs Up
Voinovich Lashes Out At Hannity: ‘You’re Not Going To Intimidate Me,’ Then Hangs Up
Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) said recently that “talk radio is running America” and that “we have to deal with that problem.” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said “hate radio” has hijacked the political discourse with its “xenophobic, anti-immigrant” rhetoric.
Yesterday, Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH) released his frustration in a “hate radio” interview with Sean Hannity. “A lot of radio programs have really got out there and fired this thing up,” Voinovich said of the immigration debate. “And so people are really hot about it. And I’m getting calls from people that basically are intimidating me.” Voinovich told Hannity:
I’ve had people back home because of programs like yours said to me if you vote for this bill, it’s the end of your political career. I just want you to know and I want everybody else to know that you do not intimidate George Voinovich.
Fed up with Hannity’s efforts to turn the interview into a right-wing commentary, Voinovich lashed out, “I really don’t think it’s worthy to talk to you right now because you’ve got your mind made up.” Hannity then turned on Voinovich, telling him, “You’re running away because you can’t answer a simple question. … Oh, so I’m irrational because I disagree with you? You’re a mighty senator, ok I get it.” Voinovich then hung up.
Listen to the interview:
UPDATE: The right is outraged over Voinovich. Hot Air says he humiliated himself. KLo writes, “At least he didn’t cry.” Radio Equalizer asks, “How did these elected officials get so out of touch with reality?” And FrontPage calls him “Senator Embarrassment.”
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“I really don’t think it’s worthy to talk to you right now because you’ve got your mind made up.â€
June 28th, 2007 at 7:27 pmThat's talk radio. Why even be on it? The hosts are peacocks. They love themselves more than the word of falsehood or truth.
Uh-oh.... they are starting to eat their own...
June 28th, 2007 at 7:30 pmRight, the Senator summed it up, why talk to these cretins? Why give them credibility?
June 28th, 2007 at 7:30 pmIts starting to fall apart now.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:33 pmSen. George Voinovich is for the destruction of America. I want him gone, come the next election.
Really, what an amnesty hag.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:35 pmit's been over three years now that i've gotten my news solely through the internet... that's how i read newspapers, pursue sources, read blogs, watch tv news clips... i am completely in charge of what, when, and how i gather information, and am vastly relieved to no longer have to feel like a prisoner while watching idiots in the pay of elite, powerful, monied interests... i'll never go back...
June 28th, 2007 at 7:37 pmAnd, yes, I DO take it personally
"I’ve had people back home because of programs like yours said to me if you vote for this bill, it’s the end of your political career. I just want you to know and I want everybody else to know that you do not intimidate George Voinovich."
Actually, Mr. Voinovich, these people will give you hell regardless of talk radio, simply because they oppose amnesty.
I never had to turn on the radio to determine that amnesty is a sham practice in the United States of America.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:38 pmSomebody should have told the human sharpie, Sean Hannity recovered construction worker, that he is a non-entity...who cares what he thinks abot anything? Really, who could care about that piece of stinky stuff?
June 28th, 2007 at 7:40 pmSenators that are for amnesty are simply upset because right wing radio educated the public on what the bill actually was. What is bad about actually letting the people know what is in bills that are being brought to the floor?
June 28th, 2007 at 7:41 pmi know what you mean, profmarcus...
June 28th, 2007 at 7:43 pmbut i get depressed and disheartened to know
that soooooo many, all around me, don't know
the half of what i know...
and they are quite comfortable with that...
worrisome...
The war on conservative talk radio has begun. Awesome.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:43 pmWhat is bad about actually letting the people know what is in bills that are being brought to the floor?
Depends on whether they're actually reporting the truth or warping it to fit their ideological agenda.
For Beck, Boortz, et al it seems that anything short of summary execution of illegal immigrants is "amnesty". Funny how their definition doesn't match any in the dictionary...
June 28th, 2007 at 7:44 pmVoinovich actually talks to his constituents? Wow.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:45 pmInteresting to see Republicans now become the targets of conservative hate radio and hate websites (Michelle Malkindinejad, et al). They all thought it was great for past decade, they all fall over themselves to praise she of the black cocktail dress, they think free speech is great when the target is a Democrat.
I think we're about to see a real shakeup in the GOP. People are sick of what it's become.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:45 pmVoinovich Lashes Out At Hannity: ‘You’re Not Going To Intimidate Me,’ Then Hangs Up - - Ummm, looks like he did intimidate you, George.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:45 pmDepends on whether they’re actually reporting the truth or warping it to fit their ideological agenda.
For Beck, Boortz, et al it seems that anything short of summary execution of illegal immigrants is “amnestyâ€. Funny how their definition doesn’t match any in the dictionary…
Comment by Trekkie
Amnesty:
a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment
The offenders of course being people that came here illegally and live here illegally. Excempt from punishment is only the beginning, the bill gave them the right to citizenship on top of forgetting about their crimes.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:47 pmReichwingers are the 26% minority...non-entity...hate mongers and idiots of the trailer parks.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:47 pmWe will see just how much of a non-entity kasinca thinks Sean Hannity is when the libs really start ramping up the Fairness Doctrine.
I listened to the entire interview yesterday. Voinovich was combative from the very first word he spoke. Sean Hannity ended up combative too, but I think it dealt with Voinovich not wanting to answer questions.
It is Sean Hannity's show. What in the world did George Voinovich think was going to happen to him?
June 28th, 2007 at 7:47 pmRight wingers like to hang big plastic testicles from the underside of their pickups. Its cool when my kids see it too.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:48 pmReichwingers are the 26% minority…non-entity…hate mongers and idiots of the trailer parks.
Comment by kasinca
Actually your 26% minority does not make sense here. Bush who has the approval rating you are referring to was for this bill and that is one of the reasons he has lost his base. Your comparison here is a 180 of what has happened.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:49 pmHannity & Co. now will classify Senator Voinovich as 'liberal'..
June 28th, 2007 at 7:49 pmIt is so simple.
Stop. Talking. To. Them.
Ignore them, and they will go away.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:51 pmPerhaps the only thing Saxby Chambliss and I have ever agreed upon - although for utterly different reasons - is that the Immigration Bill was the wrong answer.
We pay these people $165k a year each and that bill was the best they could do? I made less than half that amount as an architect and would have been fired for such results...
I'm sick of these cry baby politicians.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:51 pmI'm always a little concerned when politicians refer to themelves in the third person.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:53 pmAh, I love to see the Bush/Coulter Republican Party in full-on cannibal mode.
Now the nitwits can see what happens when the attack dogs are unleashed upon them.
-GSD
June 28th, 2007 at 7:53 pmRight wingers like to hang big plastic testicles from the underside of their pickups. Its cool when my kids see it too.
Comment by ForTruth — June 28, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
I'd have thought you were joking were it not for the fact that you mentioned your kids... Are you joking?
June 28th, 2007 at 7:53 pmGotta be tough sledding for Sean and the Krew when they get hung up on by a Republican!!! Next thing ya know, he may have to play....errr talk to himself.
And this is Faux NoNooz' poster boy!!
June 28th, 2007 at 7:55 pmI’m always a little concerned when politicians refer to themelves in the third person.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
They like hearing their own names... a lot. :D
June 28th, 2007 at 7:56 pmMaybe Skank Coutlergeist will be his permanent guest!
June 28th, 2007 at 7:56 pmFor some reason red neck men love looking at balls and having other men look at their balls.
I'm just telling the truth.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:56 pm#30 Spudge
Don't forget the WWF and all those oiled roid-raged goons they watch too! Wonder if there is a message there too? Maybe it's just man-love showing through?
June 28th, 2007 at 7:58 pmunbelievable.
Washington Post
February 23, 2007
Fake Private Parts Are No Joke, Myers Says
June 28th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Good for Hannity!
June 28th, 2007 at 8:00 pmthe outsized plastic testicles that truckers dangle from the trailer hitches of their pickups.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 28, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Thanks Spudge...
Damn that's a serious signal to the gaydar!
And then these people claim liberals are depraved... LOL. Freaking hypocrites.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:02 pmWay "ick" on the plastic ugliest part of the male anatomy....
Did you hear Sean actually claim that he was respectful to the Sen. after he hung up?
...Talk about balls. There was zero respect shown to a US Senator.
I truly hope people wake up soon. This is getting scary.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:02 pmRingo??? Good for Hannity? He was hung up on by a Repug Senator, not the other way around. Got dissed on his own show.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:03 pmLove the right-wing responses.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:04 pmOut of touch with reality? So says 29% of the electorate. Jeez, I wonder why Voinovich isn't frightened?
The douchebags actually think they're calling the shots!
What's next for these red necks... a vagina-shaped windsock for the antenna?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:04 pm“I really don’t think it’s worthy to talk to you right now because you’ve got your mind made up.â€
That’s talk radio. Why even be on it? The hosts are peacocks. They love themselves more than the word of falsehood or truth.
Comment by leftcoast — June 28, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Yeah, it was Sean Hannity who was inflexible, not the guy supporting a bill that 70% of the public is against.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:06 pm#38 Nope, already have their Dale Ernhardt Official Memorial photo pennant hanging there.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:07 pmWelcome to the FACIST, REICH-WING WORLD YOUR PARTY BUILT Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH)!!! You're a CUA!
Did you think that spending years hating and attacking progressives and ignoring your own f*cked up piece of sh!t party AND DOING NOTHING FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY would lead to something good somewhere for someone somehow???
Loser!!!
June 28th, 2007 at 8:09 pmReally, Eric.
Show us the link that says 70% are against it.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:09 pmYeah, it was Sean Hannity who was inflexible, not the guy supporting a bill that 70% of the public is against. Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
You say 70%? Is that a *fox* online poll number? Or did you just pull that out of your ignorant wingnut *ss?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:10 pmIgnore them, and they will go away.
Comment by --Blue Girl — June 28, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
um... well... that's just not true...
they've been building a monopoly for years,
shutting out any voice but the rabid right's...
if the left avoids that audience, then that audience
gets to ignore the left...
i'll take any little seed we can get planted in their
shallow little minds...
this does NOT apply to any so called "debate"
sponsored by the faux...
voinovich deserves kudos for this...
June 28th, 2007 at 8:10 pm.
For Beck, Boortz, et al it seems that anything short of summary execution of illegal immigrants is “amnestyâ€. Funny how their definition doesn’t match any in the dictionary…
Comment by Trekkie — June 28, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Seems a huge majority of public agreed with that definition. And that includes many Democrats, who presumably aren't in favor of executing illegals.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:11 pmkaty,
Maybe if we send emails to his office applauding him, it might give him the confidence to do it again?
I'm gonna go find his email address. We should all give him kudos, as katy said.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:12 pmWhat’s next for these red necks… a vagina-shaped windsock for the antenna?
Comment by unbelievable
Actually, it's a string of onion rings.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:13 pmWhat’s next for these red necks… a vagina-shaped windsock for the antenna?
Comment by unbelievable
If only they were man enough!
June 28th, 2007 at 8:15 pmtrue - that's what they need, and want...
June 28th, 2007 at 8:16 pmlet them know when they do the right thing...
the bitching must get old...
Screw Nazi wannabe Hannity.
I'd love to slap his hardened, ugly face.
And, ugh, kudos to the Republican!?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:16 pmSen. Voinovich
BTW,
Nice immigrant sounding name.
;)
June 28th, 2007 at 8:18 pmWe are all immigrants.
Actually, Mr. Voinovich, these people will give you hell regardless of talk radio, simply because they oppose amnesty.
85% of illegal immigrants polled said they would pay the fines and do follow the rules to become legal citizens. What I think people fail to realize is that you simply cannot just round up these people and deport them. Its irrational, would take a decade, and would be cost prohibitive and would draw manpower away from protecting the border.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:19 pmNot Canadian,
Sen Voinovich is finally starting to see the light.
Kudos, yes.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:19 pm#47
Actually, it’s a string of onion rings.
Comment by Zooey — June 28, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Very funny...and so appropriate...it is the perfect model for their DNA structure....it's not a twisted strand...it's onion rings linked together!!!!
Brilliant!!
June 28th, 2007 at 8:20 pmIt's interesting to see how a conservative responds when hit with the same tactics that these talk jocks usually use against liberals. It's like there was a flash of light and -- all of a sudden -- Voinovich saw for the first time that talk radio tactics aren't about getting to the truth, they're just about making the other person look bad.
What tactics? Well, the "bogus study gambit" for one. Hannity ambushes Voinovich with a Heritage Foundation study, but there are other studies (like from CBO) that show an opposite result. And the "have you read the whole bill gambit." Hey, none of these guys ever read the whole bill. They certainly didn't read the Patriot Act. Many bills passed by the Republicans over the last few years were intentionally withheld until minutes before the vote, but I didn't hear Hannity complaining about that. Now, of course, it's a sin.
Who knows? If Hannity keeps hitting Republicans with his usual tactics, maybe he'll create some votes for the Fairness Doctrine.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:21 pmWindsuck
Actually, it’s a string of onion rings.
Comment by Zooey
Johnny Carson (Holds envelope to forehead)
What do you call Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan standing in line?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:26 pmGee, Sean, after that interview I wonder which way Voinovich would vote if new Fairness Doctrine legislation arises. Do you think he’ll even read it before he votes yea?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:26 pmlmao Zooey and Zep!
June 28th, 2007 at 8:27 pmDavid Shannon,
I thought it was awesome that Sen. Voinovich is for the Fairness Doctrine! :))
He should get a positive email from all of us for that alone. We need to be able to have equal time, so the American people aren't spoon fed whatever Rupert Murdoch and the GOP want us to believe.
We really should applaud him. Positive reinforcement does wonders, folks.
:)
June 28th, 2007 at 8:28 pmhannity: … Oh, so I’m irrational because I disagree with you? You’re a mighty senator, ok I get it.â€
the same shit coulter was pulling with elizabeth edwards...
smartass passive aggressive bullshit...
ugly people...
June 28th, 2007 at 8:28 pmGee, Sean, after that interview I wonder which way Voinovich would vote if new Fairness Doctrine legislation arises. Comment by Roket
I used to think they should reinstate it, now, after watching them implode because of their extreme biased rants, that maybe they shouldn't. =)
June 28th, 2007 at 8:29 pmZep,
That was brilliant.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:29 pmZep, That was brilliant. Comment by trueblue
Thanks! I learned from Zooey. =)
June 28th, 2007 at 8:31 pmThree years ago, Voinovich almost declined to run for a second term, and it's not at all likely he'll seek a third in 2010. Come back in four years and see how much Hot Air, KLo, Radio Equalizer, and FrontPage like the new Democratic Senator from Ohio.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:35 pmSen. George Voinovich is for the destruction of America. I want him gone, come the next election.
Really, what an amnesty hag.
Comment by CT V_1
Do you live in his state or are you just talking trash?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:39 pmGenerally, I despise Hannity and O'Reilly, however, I'm right behind them on this issue.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:39 pm43. Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — June 28, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
You say 70%? Is that a *fox* online poll number? Or did you just pull that out of your ignorant wingnut *ss?
From the Rasmussen reports, and this is from June 8. And the bill's only become more unpopular since then.
The last Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll found that just 23% of Americans supported the legislation... There is no mystery to why the public opposed the bill. In the minds of most Americans, immigration reform means reducing illegal immigration and enforcing the border. Only 16% believed the Senate bill would accomplish that goal... Rasmussen Reports polling found that 72% of Americans believe it’s Very Important to reduce illegal immigration and enforce the borders. Just 29% said it was Very Important to legalize the status of those illegally living in the country today... With all the polling data in the world today, how could they have failed to see this coming? While Rasmussen Reports was the only public polling firm to directly ask about support or opposition to the Senate bill, other polling data such as a recent CBS News/New York Times survey provided plenty of warning signs. Besides, the nation’s politicians purchase plenty of private polling data that should have given them a hint.
(Full report below.)
Any other questions, freak?
Why the Senate Immigration Bill Failed
Friday, June 08, 2007
Elite newspapers and countless bloggers are writing their own explanations of why the compromise immigration legislation failed last night. Most of the write-ups discuss legislative tactics, an amendment offered by Senator Byron Dorgan (D), or some particular provision of the bill dealing with amnesty or guest workers.
The reality is much simpler and has nothing to do with legislative tactics. The immigration bill failed because a broad cross-section of the American people are opposed to it. Republicans, Democrats, and unaffiliated voters are opposed. Men are opposed. So are women. The young don’t like it; neither do the no-longer-young. White Americans are opposed. Americans of color are opposed.
The last Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll found that just 23% of Americans supported the legislation. When a bill has less popular support than the War in Iraq, it deserves to be defeated.
There is no mystery to why the public opposed the bill. In the minds of most Americans, immigration reform means reducing illegal immigration and enforcing the border. Only 16% believed the Senate bill would accomplish that goal.
It wasn’t amnesty or guest-worker programs or paths to citizenship that doomed the bill. Each of those provisions made it more difficult for some segments of the population to accept. However, most voters were willing to accept them as part of a true compromise that accomplished the primary goal of reducing illegal immigration.
The key to winning voter support was to accomplish that primary goal.
The Senators missed that point and that’s where the mystery resides in analyzing why this bill failed. It’s not unusual for political leaders to be out of touch with their constituents, but rarely this out of touch. How could something this unpopular with voters get so close to passage in a legislative body that is supposed to represent them?
From the beginning, the Senate approached the issue with top priority of addressing the legal status of the illegal aliens. They addressed concerns about guest-worker programs and questions about whether family or skill level should be more important when determining who could enter the country.
All of those are important questions, but they are not the most important question. Rasmussen Reports polling found that 72% of Americans believe it’s Very Important to reduce illegal immigration and enforce the borders. Just 29% said it was Very Important to legalize the status of those illegally living in the country today.
After ignoring the main point that voters were hoping to address, Senators should not have been shocked at the public reaction. But they were.
With all the polling data in the world today, how could they have failed to see this coming? While Rasmussen Reports was the only public polling firm to directly ask about support or opposition to the Senate bill, other polling data such as a recent CBS News/New York Times survey provided plenty of warning signs. Besides, the nation’s politicians purchase plenty of private polling data that should have given them a hint.
We live in a world where most Americans believe that most Members of Congress will sell their vote for cash or a campaign contribution. Only 16% believe the legislators’ votes are not for sale. By a nearly 5-to-1 margin, voters believe that Members of Congress are more interested in their own careers and agenda rather than the public good.
In that environment, the only way for political leaders to prove they are serious about enforcing the border and reducing illegal immigration will be to do it. That’s the next logical step in the immigration debate.
There are plenty of steps that could be taken quickly with solid voter support. Some may require new laws while others may simply require enforcement of the existing laws. But, voters aren’t concerned about the specifics—they’ll support serious efforts to reduce illegal immigration. This could include imposing employer sanctions, building a barrier, adding more border patrol agents, supporting local law enforcement efforts, and more.
Once the government actually enforces the border, then the debate can begin on all other aspects of immigration reform. Then, the same politicians who were stunned by their misreading of the public on this bill will probably be stunned to learn something else—most Americans actually do favor a welcoming and open immigration policy.
The United States is a nation of immigrants. It is also a nation of laws. Voters want to honor both aspects of the national heritage. And, like good parents trying to instill values in their children, voters want their elected representatives to do the same.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:41 pmHmmm.. I wonder if all the heat on Voinovich (which seems a little out of proportion to me even though the entire interview was ridiculous) has more to do with his supporting pulling out of Iraq and sending that letter to Bush a couple of days ago...
June 28th, 2007 at 8:42 pmhttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-wardebate27jun27,1,1065021.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Maybe they are trying to humiliate him or something. Payback is a bitch..
Hannity... what a jerk.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:47 pmYeah, it was Sean Hannity who was inflexible, not the guy supporting a bill that 70% of the public is against.
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair
Where'd you get that 70%. Did you pull it out of your plastic testicles?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:49 pmZep,
LOL!
I think Zooey brings out our "inner feisty".
In a good way.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:51 pm:D
shane,
3 people have asked him to back up that claim, but so far - nothing.
Empty, baseless, crap.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:52 pmMaybe they are trying to humiliate him or something. Payback is a bitch..
Comment by JG — June 28, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
good call...
June 28th, 2007 at 8:54 pm3 people have asked him to back up that claim, but so far - nothing.
Empty, baseless, crap.
Comment by trueblue
Yeah, I saw that after I posted. But I've been looking really hard for his answer.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:57 pmThe class just oozes from the red neck Republican base:
Truck Nutz
Holy jeebus, at least Bill Clinton only shared his parts behind closed doors. I guess if ya got 'em, use 'em. If you don't got 'em, buy a fake pair and hang 'em from yer pickup.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:57 pmComment by pitman — June 28, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
I'm surprised that TP used this clip to make the Progressive Talking Points. If TP wants to have Hannity portrayed as the "bad guy" he for once asked some good questions.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:58 pmWow. Voinovich is like the Lieberman of the right wing now.
In fairness, Randi Rhodes had a fight with Ralph Nader once and he hung up on her or something.
I wonder if Joe Klein, David Broder, Richard Cohen or Howard Kurtz will have any columns about those mean-filled vitriolic right wing talk show hosts? They don't have a problem picking on the liberal blogs.
I'm just saying. Fair is fair.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:00 pm"Generally, I despise Hannity and O’Reilly, however, I’m right behind them on this issue." - pitman
Definitely better to be behind Mr. Loofah than the other way around.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:02 pmActually your 26% minority does not make sense here. Bush who has the approval rating you are referring to was for this bill and that is one of the reasons he has lost his base. Your comparison here is a 180 of what has happened.
Comment by yep — June 28, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
The only people who would ever watch the human waste, Hannity, are the dumbasses in the 26%. You are proving my point, dumbass. Hannity is a non-entity and people who watch him are less than that.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThe only people who would ever watch the human waste, Hannity, are the dumbasses in the 26%. You are proving my point, dumbass. Hannity is a non-entity and people who watch him are less than that.
Comment by kasinca — June 28, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
If those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are "dumbasses," what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
What does make those who (used to) listen to Air Amerika?
June 28th, 2007 at 9:08 pmreality. Reality. REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:08 pmmus' be nice to live in foKKKS 'news'- "Happy-Land" (tm), where the surge is working, we're winning in eye-rack, and illegal meskins are the most pressing issue facing our country.
that randi rhodes / ralph nader interview was rich!
she's telling him how badly she wants this VERY CUTE pair of shoes,
BUT SHE CAN'T AFFORD THEM - just like the country could not
afford to have him run for president...
he wasn't prepared for someone like randi, who knows
June 28th, 2007 at 9:10 pmwhat the hell she's talking about...
.
oh! check out her homepage today... wealth of info!
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/
... Olbermann?
... Air Amerika?
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
TRUTH SEEKERS
June 28th, 2007 at 9:16 pmI've got to say this again. I just don't know anyone (except one old man) who listens to talk radio. I asked about 15 at work and only one said they even listened to the radio (that one old man). But half of them said they read news and political articles online. I just don't think the vast majority of Americans get their news and info from radio anymore. Not since a very long time ago.
Do any of you listen to any talk radio? Or any radio for that matter. (maybe on the drive into work, but I listen to music then)
June 28th, 2007 at 9:17 pmWOW! That Randi Rhodes page is hard on the eyes. She's got to dump an orange background to read from!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:19 pmIf those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are “dumbasses,†what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
What does make those who (used to) listen to Air Amerika?
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Intelligent thinkers who can see a dumbass a mile away...tag, your it.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:31 pmAustralia's prime minister, John Howard, won an election on this issue. He was behind in the polls until a boat full of refugees, The Tampa, crossed into our waters. Howard said, "We decide who comes into Australia and the conditions under which they come." The voters loved it!
People become very irrational when the territorial instinct is aroused. But as Trueblue said, "We are all immigrants."
It's time to move from the conflict-ridden instinctual survival mentality of "us vs them" to the cooperative happiness mentality of "happiness for all."
Talk show hosts think that stirring up the people will bring happiness in the form of money and prestige. But money and prestige are also at the survival level - they don't bring happiness.
Let's move forward towards happiness for everyone, including illegal immigrants and talk show hosts.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:32 pmIf those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are “dumbasses,†what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
WELL-INFORMED. With FACTS to back up what comes out of his mouth.
A couple of years ago, a study was done, and it was shown that people who watch fox "news" are TWICE as likely to be misinformed on topics.
Thanks for asking...
June 28th, 2007 at 9:35 pmIf those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are “dumbasses,†what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Some of them once belonged to MENSA, so I guess that makes them smart.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:36 pmDo any of you listen to any talk radio? Or any radio for that matter. (maybe on the drive into work, but I listen to music then)
Comment by paland
Sometimes during the day, if I have to drive somewhere for work, I'll listen to whatever is on the local Air America affiliate. Unfortunately, it's AM radio, which means there are about 2 minutes of content for every 15 minutes of stupid commercials.
I have to admit, Randi Rhodes gives me the creeps. She's even rude to people who are essentially agreeing with her, and treats most of the callers as if they were just barely smart enough to accept her words as pearls of wisdom. I can't listen to her.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:39 pmi don't know how awful this will sound...
it's disappointing that a real solution could not be found
(as if it ever will - other than ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS)
but, this means that this issue is gone for now...
nothing will be done about it until 09...
so...
let's concentrate on getting these bushco criminals exposed
and excommunicated from our government!
DEMS 08
June 28th, 2007 at 9:42 pmSAVE THE CONSTITUTION
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If those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are “dumbasses,†what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
What does make those who (used to) listen to Air Amerika?
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Intelligent thinkers who can see a dumbass a mile away…tag, your it.
Comment by kasinca — June 28, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
Sounds like fuzzy math to me. :-)
June 28th, 2007 at 9:43 pmgummich - i'm a real randi fan,
but i can understand your reasoning...
she can be a bit much at times...
but you can't argue with facts - and she backs it all up
with facts.
the worst thing aar did was move sam from mornings
June 28th, 2007 at 9:47 pmand put some joker there...
i can't listen to THAT guy, lionel... talk about rude...
.
CHENEY 2008!!!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:47 pmCHENEY 2008!!! for the MASSIVE HEART ATTACK, and then on to HELL!!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:50 pmThe true facts are that many Progressives get much of hteir information from the Internet and don't watch tv or listen to talk radio as much.
We also are more slective in what we wat h and listen to, and ijn many cases, we do listen/watch the other side (Unlike much of the Rusher ditto heads, who only follow their leader).
Taht may explain a lot of the ratings issues. and also Thank God for TiVo and not seeing any commercials!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:51 pmComment by gummitch — June 28, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
I really enjoyed listening to that station while I was out there, gummitch, but you're right about the ads. Maddening!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:51 pmIf those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are “dumbasses,†what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Some of them once belonged to MENSA, so I guess that makes them smart.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
Not smart enough, apparently.
Well, one MENSA, anyway. And unfortunately, his IQ can't make up for the lack of IQ in Franken, Garafalo and the other knuckleheads.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:53 pm#86 Comment by Martin Gifford — June 28, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
Let’s move forward towards happiness for everyone, including illegal immigrants and talk show hosts.
Lovely words. That is the goal, or should be.
BTW, have you been over to read the blog "Little Green Footballs"? Post your comments over there and report back on their response. We will have the emotional "ambulance" waiting when you return.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:53 pmAh yes, the Voice of Reason On The Rightâ„¢, Sean "Heil" Hannity.
Unfair and Unbalancedâ„¢!!!!
June 28th, 2007 at 9:57 pmGenerally, I despise Hannity and O’Reilly, however, I’m right behind them on this issue.
Comment by pitman — June 28, 2007 @ 8:39
Yeah, but their reason for hating the bill is most likely very different than yours. They're repug tools and the repugs don't want ANY employer or company or corporation... any big money to follow the existing law on the books.
Like Thom Hartmann said today, I hope I got this right: "we don't have an immigration problem, we have an employer problem".
June 28th, 2007 at 9:58 pmAnd unfortunately, his IQ can’t make up for the lack of IQ in Franken, Garafalo and the other knuckleheads.
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair
Geez, Eric, where's your metrics???
June 28th, 2007 at 9:58 pm#97 Again, the people like Olbermann support their positions with FACTS and DOCUMENTATION.
Remember when O'Dildo was SCREAMING that the NYT "didn't cover the JFK 'terrorist plot' on the FRONT PAGE",
while he had the paper FOLDED and didn't SHOW the LOWER HALF of the FRONT PAGE where the article was??
Another LIE by O'Dildo, and this is the type of Rush/Coulter/Hannity, etc. half-truth/innuendo/hatemongering they use...
June 28th, 2007 at 9:59 pmThe GOPers are eating each other, so stand back and watch. I need to get some popcorn and a beer. This could be fun event to kick back & enjoy.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:00 pmfranken and garafolo have not been on
June 28th, 2007 at 10:04 pmaar for many months... jeesh...
103 The only thing better is if Inshannity got bitch slapped...that would be a You Tube Academy Award. I even think would be worth going to jail for.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:05 pmand yes, I volunteer!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:06 pmNot smart enough, apparently.
Well, one MENSA, anyway. And unfortunately, his IQ can’t make up for the lack of IQ in Franken, Garafalo and the other knuckleheads.
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
I see you enjoy using the old strawman tactic, don't you? The question I was answering was about Olbermann, not Air America.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:07 pmpretty close, pat:
we don't have an illegal immigration problem
June 28th, 2007 at 10:08 pmwe have an illegal employment problem
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I'm no fan of Voinovich, but Hannity is such a disingenuous hypocrite.
Suddenly, he's concerned about the impact on taxpayers of this bill when he's been cheer leading our rape by Halliburton for four years running. We're on pace to spend trillions in Iraq, but not a peep of protest from Captain Outrage!
Then he accuses Voinovich of ad hominem attacks and only having discussions with people who agree with him - that's Hannity's complete business model!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:09 pmPat > I would love to be on a show with Ann Coulter and walk over and push her chair over.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:09 pmIt appears EAB (97) falls well short of the Mensa benchmark.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:10 pmPat> I would love to be on a show with Ann Coulter and walk over and push her chair over.
I'd smash Coulter's UGLY FACE.
Teach HIM some RESPECT...
June 28th, 2007 at 10:11 pmJay...I volunteer for that too...but I would add a dry shave of her dome...on camera of course. She'd look like Vanessa Redgrave in the concentration camp movie. (sorry Vanessa).
June 28th, 2007 at 10:12 pmwe don’t have an illegal immigration problem
we have an illegal employment problem
Comment by katy
Excellent, katy...
June 28th, 2007 at 10:14 pmThanks Katy!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:24 pmIt appears EAB (97) falls well short of the Mensa benchmark.
Comment by Pat — June 28, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
I know. Former members can tell.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:27 pmwe don’t have an illegal immigration problem
we have an illegal employment problem
Comment by katy
Precisely correct! What penalties are ever imposed on them? Especially the big, giant corporations that illegally employ them?
June 28th, 2007 at 10:28 pmI hope the next Prez we elect has half the intellect and common sense as Thom Hartmann. By FAR...the best radio host in america!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI hope the next Prez we elect has half the intellect and common sense as Thom Hartmann. By FAR…the best radio host in america!
Comment by Pat — June 28, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
Absolutely agree. He has such a gift for expaining things in simple language that makes things seem so sensible, and it's not with phony emotion (lke the rabi right-ing does).
June 28th, 2007 at 10:34 pmMerlin wrote: "BTW, have you been over to read the blog “Little Green Footballs�"
I just had a look. Amazing! They think that Bush is too soft and not sufficiently right-wing! I didn't think that was possible - and they regularly get over 500 comments!
Reading through the comments, they seem to think that the sky is falling since 9/11. If the sky is falling, it is because of Bush's response to 9/11, not the event itself.
I don't get it. How does 3,000 deaths in New York compare to 800,000 deaths in Rwanda or 300,000 deaths in Sudan? In the big picture, and over the long-term, 9/11 wasn't an intrinsically important event. There just needed to be a level-headed professional response to capture those responsible and to stop something similar happening again.
The extreme right seem to be afraid of that America, which is armed to the gills, is going to be destroyed by 19 Islamists! Is America so weak and vulnerable? The extreme right are stuck at the territorial survival level of thinking.
(I tried to post at Little Green Footballs but the registering is closed ATM.)
June 28th, 2007 at 10:35 pmI see you enjoy using the old strawman tactic, don’t you? The question I was answering was about Olbermann, not Air America.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Straw man? You referenced "some of them"--as in, some of the radio hosts.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:39 pmIf those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are “dumbasses,†what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Some of them once belonged to MENSA, so I guess that makes them smart.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
"Them" refers to "those who watch Olbermann". Do you actually read much, or do you just pretend to be a man who wrote against people ike this current administration?
June 28th, 2007 at 10:43 pm“Them†refers to “those who watch Olbermannâ€. Do you actually read much, or do you just pretend to be a man who wrote against people ike this current administration?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
LOL.
Yeah, that's the way it reads, all right. But you see, judging from the widespread illiteracy on this board, it was either assume that you meant something else, or that you're a typical smug liberal who actually believes that MENSA members watch only Keith Olbermann.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:57 pmThe snake has found its own tail, and is starting to swallow it.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:59 pm"But you see, judging from the widespread illiteracy on this board..."
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair
The Joker cain't help it, Massa Blair. He ain't never got himself one o' them store-bought edumacations reserved for the white folk...
June 28th, 2007 at 11:05 pmIf those 26% of viewers who watch Hannity are “dumbasses,†what does that make those who watch Olbermann?
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Islamofascistterrorist American troop hating Pelosi loving Castro loveing Bush hating NASCAR hating WWF non watching Starbucks drinking tree hugging Volvo driving giving a $hit about little furry animals lacking pure American blood low lifes.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:16 pmIslamofascistterrorist American troop hating Pelosi loving Castro loveing Bush hating NASCAR hating WWF non watching Starbucks drinking tree hugging Volvo driving giving a $hit about little furry animals lacking pure American blood low lifes.
Comment by joefriday
Congratulations, joefriday. I can't begin to fathom what you're talking about here.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:18 pmBut you see, judging from the widespread illiteracy on this board, it was either assume that you meant something else, or that you’re a typical smug liberal who actually believes that MENSA members watch only Keith Olbermann.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
Once again you attributing to me incorrectly. I NEVER said that "MENSA members watch only Keith Olbermann." Don't put words in my mouth. I said what I said.
And I rather be a "smug liberal" than an "ignorant conservative" any day. Thank you for the discussion.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:21 pmCongratulations, joefriday. I can’t begin to fathom what you’re talking about here.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 28, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
Good start! Just read the last 127 posts-and ,I don't make sense?
June 28th, 2007 at 11:23 pmAnd I rather be a “smug liberal†than an “ignorant conservative†any day. Thank you for the discussion.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
Typical Smug Liberal. :P
June 28th, 2007 at 11:26 pmJoe F. and EAB are the kind of guys who call Inshannity... then they tell each other they are a great Amerikun!
June 28th, 2007 at 11:28 pmTypical Smug Liberal. :P
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 28, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
As we say in NY, "You got a problem with that, Pal?" :D
June 28th, 2007 at 11:29 pmThe Joker cain’t help it, Massa Blair. He ain’t never got himself one o’ them store-bought edumacations reserved for the white folk…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 28, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
That was sure nice of him to give usins that benifit thingy. Might be handing out some cake real soon.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:30 pmMight be handing out some cake real soon.
Comment by joefriday
Does that mean we be doin' de cake walk soon?
June 28th, 2007 at 11:34 pmJoe F. and EAB are the kind of guys who call Inshannity… then they tell each other they are a great Amerikun!
Comment by Pat — June 28, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Some things are beneath the surface-like sarcasm. You need a sharper knife.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:35 pmDoes that mean we be doin’ de cake walk soon?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — June 28, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Better grab a chair.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:37 pmOnce again you attributing to me incorrectly. I NEVER said that “MENSA members watch only Keith Olbermann.†Don’t put words in my mouth. I said what I said.
Then what was your point? Or did you have one?
And I rather be a “smug liberal†than an “ignorant conservative†any day.
Well then, congratulations--you've succeeded beyond your wildest aspirations.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:37 pmWell then, congratulations–you’ve succeeded beyond your wildest aspirations.
Comment by Eric Arthur Blair — June 28, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
As stated by some one using his/its middle name-should tell you some thing. R U related to ---Himmer Smith ?
June 28th, 2007 at 11:40 pmWe all know Hannity is an ass, and that the reasons that rightwingers are against this immigration bill are more about xenophobia and their exaggerated fears over border security. But why is TP for this immigration bill?
This immigration bill is/was disastrous for working class, poor and middle class Americans. Democrats in Congress ought to be ashamed to have thrown in with Bush-Cheney on this.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:49 pmWe won today, thanks in large part to heros like Sean Hannity. He allowed us without a voice to be heard. NO AMNESTY! CLOSE THE BORDERS! Voinovich got SCHOOLED! Victory!
June 28th, 2007 at 11:49 pmMr. Blair, I regret that you are unable to understand a simple declarative sentence. But I will take a risk and say one more to you.
Good night, Sir.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:49 pmMr. Blair, I regret that you are unable to understand a simple declarative sentence. But I will take a risk and say one more to you.
Good night, Sir.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
No, Wayne, I get it. Really. I just wanted to hear you say it.
Yes, I know, YOU are the MENSA member who watches Olbermann. I get it, alright.
I'm just totally stunned that somebody would be so arrogant and self-important to actually make that statement.
Please, by all means, keep on talking--let everybody know how wonderful and brilliant you are!
June 28th, 2007 at 11:53 pmGood night, Sir.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
And good night Gracie where ever you are. Wayne , you did great-I respect your controll.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:53 pmMr. Blair, I regret that you are unable to understand a simple declarative sentence. But I will take a risk and say one more to you.
Good night, Sir.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — June 28, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Oh, and Wayne, that "simple declarative sentence" would've read much better as "Some of US once belonged to MENSA."
Just so everybody would understand that we're talking about you, the brilliant Wayne A. Schneider.
Good night, Wayne.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:57 pmThank you, joefriday
Wayne A. Schneider
Former SSGT, USAF (1983-1988)
Former Member MENSA (1983-1985)
Proud to be a Liberal-Libertarian-Humanist.
Registered Unaffiliated with any Political Party since 1992.
Card-carrying member of the ACLU.
I hope that clears up any questions about where I'm coming from.
Not you, joefriday. You're okay.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:09 am"I’ve had people back home because of programs like yours said to me if you vote for this bill, it’s the end of your political career. I just want you to know and I want everybody else to know that you do not intimidate George Voinovich"
So Voinovich is basically telling those who voted him in that he isn't going to listen to them and do what they want him to. So long Voinovich!!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 12:21 amThe right is turning on its own. Delicious.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:22 am#17
And leftwinger are the uneducated squatters of the USA.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:22 amAnd leftwinger are the uneducated squatters of the USA.
Comment by Tracy — June 29, 2007 @ 12:22 am
More projection from the Texas-St*pid wingnut...
June 29th, 2007 at 12:23 am#78
And people who listen to Rhodes are even less.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:26 am#80
The left dumbasses.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:27 am#139
"Democrats in Congress ought to be ashamed to have thrown in with Bush-Cheney on this."
That's because they don't give a damn about border security they just wanted voters.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:30 am#149
Factual projection FYI.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:31 am#150
Ah, another comment by TP's wanna-be attack dog. Nothing but a pit Yorkie.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:33 amThey are feeding on their own.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:03 amAnd people who listen to Rhodes are even less.
Comment by Tracy — June 29, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Isn't someone calling you from the trailer park? Go away. Rhodes has facts...Hannity has emotional morons like you.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:09 amThe rethuglicans will be ramping up the in fighting. They are falling apart. Good riddance.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:12 amSend all of our jobs to China, and then divert our attention by talking about the "illegals." Yeah, the Mexicans stole all our jobs - because we'd all be working construction or picking peaches or gardening if it weren't for them.
Wake up, people. The CEOs stole our jobs. The GOP stole our jobs and sold them overseas.
Same old story, divide and conquer. Get the lower classes fighting amongst themselves over scraps while the upper class runs off with the whole cake.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:48 amIt's especially gratifying to see wingers starting to hate the stuff they created--hate radio, the Iraq War, the Presidency of George W. Bush.
Apparently, even neocons hate neocon policies.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:35 amDo you live in his state or are you just talking trash?
Comment by shane — June 28, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
I have to live in his crappy state to understand the definition of amnesty? You are both amnesty hags and an embarrasment to the senior-citizen population. It's quite simple to understand, really.
You are an Islamo-Stalinist.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:40 amComment by trueblue
You are an amnesty nut. Too bad your baseless views for amnesty remain in the minority. It's amnesty any way you slice it, hippie.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:45 amWhat? That title is a bit twisted. Hannity kicked his ass becuase he did not want to answer tough questions. He tried to say it was not worth his time. Hannity has 15 million listeners (Air-Head America has 15) so I think it is worth his time to explain whay he is behind any bill with Ted Kennedy's murdering fingerprints on it. 75 to 80% of American's don't want this bill they want the boarder enforced first. You don't clean up the mess until you fix the problem making the mess.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:59 amWow.....Hannity sure tore the senator a new one. Politicians can't back anything up right now. Getting skewered by the people
June 29th, 2007 at 8:02 amWow…..Hannity sure tore the senator a new one. Politicians can’t back anything up right now. Getting skewered by the people
Comment by eric — June 29, 2007 @ 8:02 am
Yea, right. Hannity is an idiot and should go back to his day job, construction.
June 29th, 2007 at 8:11 amThere is no credibility to anything that comes from that moron's mouth and only morons would be on a progressive board acknowledging anything he says. Go back to the trailer park.
this version has been EDITED
the senator has been made to look better.
find th full version
June 29th, 2007 at 8:33 am... it was OKI for the repigs when these haters were going after democrats and anyone who questioned the Rovians. now that they're going after repigs, they want it to stop and are screaming that hate-radio / TV is out of control.
they (the repigs) sound like parents who coddled hateful spoiled children who have become serial killers and now that they're pointing the gun at them, they want them to stop.
tough shit. let me find a quarter so you can call someone who cares.
June 29th, 2007 at 8:37 amInsannity thinks Coulter is brilliant...
'Nuff said.
June 29th, 2007 at 9:06 amI actually agree with Hannity in this clip. I usually despise the man. It must be a cold day in hell.
~Sean
June 29th, 2007 at 10:06 amGreat. They killed immigration reform. So we're stuck with the current system, which is NOT WORKING. Everyone starts throwing around words like "amnesty for illegals", and they kill a reasonable reform which would improve the current situation. Employers would have had a way to actually track if an employee is illegal. It would get those people out of the shadows so they can be tracked for security purposes. Right now, we have no clue which are the criminals and which are not. It would have also taken measures to secure our borders to prevent more illegals from coming here.
But most people only hear the word "amnesty" unfortunately.
Think about it. When you are able to get people ranging from Ted Kennedy to George W. Bush to actually agree on something, it's the best compromise we're going to get.
This *is* yet another example of why talk radio idiots are destroying real debate and reform in our country.
June 29th, 2007 at 10:21 amJust a couple of observations...
1) Let's not get carried away here defending Voinovich. Just because a jackass decides to hang up on Sean Hannity does not make him any less of a jackass.
2) I've seen the Fairness Doctrine mentioned in a few posts... I support bringing back the FD, but remember, since it only applies to "public airwaves" it would only affect Hannity's radio show. FNC, which is on cable, would not be affected.
3) I'm not worried about these cable news blowhards. It's clear that the internet/blogs/etc are going to replace cable as news sources... I think cable news (and the pundit shows) are on the way out.
June 29th, 2007 at 10:27 amIt's clear that the internet/blogs/etc are going to replace cable as news sources
Not yet:
25. – 31. Where are you getting information about the presidential candidates?
Are you getting information from:
*******SUMMARY ******
Yes
Television coverage 88%
Newspaper coverage 69%
Radio coverage 51%
Internet news sites 38%
Web logs or blogs 11%
YouTube 7%
MySpace 4
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June 29th, 2007 at 10:33 amI never thought I'd see the day when Sean Hannity would sound logical than anyone in the world! Not that I agree with eitehr one, but Hannity sounded more compsed and had the facts than Voinovish. I am sorry, but Voinovich scares me in that he sounds very unstable. I am serious. Well, good for them and they have Rove to thank for this internal snipping. It looks like it backfired on them BIG time!
June 29th, 2007 at 10:50 amAmazing...a self-admitted, 40 year politician, than said "whatever that is" to the fairness doctine.....he wasn't even sure what the doctrine was!?! Also, Voinovich thinks that constituents telling him how they want him to vote is intimitation? I thought he represented those people. What a coward.....All of these incumbents should be voted out of office, because it doesn't matter what party you're affiliated with, this yahoos in Washington are too far connected from the American people and ALL of them are killing this country.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:18 pmA SENATOR DID THIS??? Holy crap!
With fingers in ears:
June 29th, 2007 at 1:00 pm"la-la-la-la-la I can't hear you".... *click*
Fairness Doctrine - by itself, won't solve the problem - you've still got Murdoch owning 39% of the media in the country - and he's the one who got the rightwing nutjobs into power - both here and his native Australia - there's one immigrant I'd like to deport!
G. Voinovich - I'm a former Ohioan and blue as the sky - George is conservative, but not reactionary. I think he has moderated his views over the years. Or maybe it's just that the rest of his party has lost it's mind over the last 20 years, he looks more moderate
I'm with those who want to give support to any who stand up to the hate-mongers. We've got to find middle ground somehow, or I fear for the future of our country.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pmI found this clip amusing. Hannity repeatedly said that the bill was still being written, but touted the Heritage report that stated trillions of dollars in economic impact if the bill passed. How does that work?
Voinovich, to give him credit, said that he wanted to see the entire bill and weigh the options before making a decision. Seems to be a reasonable approach.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:36 pm#157
I have listened to her and all she is full of emotion. It's obvious by her low command of the english language.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:56 pm"Uh-oh…. they are starting to eat their own…"
Everyone take seconds please.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmSean Hannity & marge simpson have them boss....Rupert Murdoch. Enuff said
June 29th, 2007 at 4:02 pmHannity's a whiney manbitch
June 29th, 2007 at 6:02 pmHannity is puke in a suit. Adopt a senator. Voinovich is pliable on the war and on wiretaps. This is the right wing media machine pressuring dissident republicans into supporting the president. Who is this heritage foundation and what has got Hannitys knickers in such a twist? Heritage Heritage Heritage! ! !!
June 29th, 2007 at 7:25 pmLots of nasty comments here, debate is good but it's getting too personal.
I'd just like to say that I don't think people that break the law (by entering the US Illegally) should be given easy access citizenship.
If I as a citizen break the law, I pay the penalty. Why should it be different for someone here illegally?
That might partly explain why so many folks were against- S-1363
June 29th, 2007 at 8:49 pmStated in earlier post- according to Rasmussen report, only 23% supported the legislation.
The Hannity/Voinovich exchange was entertaining indeed but at the end of the day...
Voinovich helped killed the immigration bill by voting 'nay' On the Cloture Motion....
I detest Hannity but....look at the Voinovich vote.
June 29th, 2007 at 9:10 pmJust more ignorant bilge from Sean Hannutsy who, with Rush Limbaughloney, has NO academic credentials. Both are soidisant intellectuals financed by the ultra-Right, quasi-fascist arm of the Republican Party. Their appeal is to the ignorance of the Dupes upon whom the Party relies to cheer and vote against themselves by sending blatant Stooges to Congress in response to the Hannutsy-Limbaughloney style of half-truths and downright lies that whip the Dupes into a frenzy each day. We can all thank the Dupes for the Puppet squatting in the White House oafel office and the havoc he has wreaked world-wise against all things American.
June 30th, 2007 at 8:48 amI'm from Va Beach, VA and lived in Guadalajara, Mexico for two years as a youth (aged 7 and 8 mostly) in the late 1970s when my dad attended medical school there. [-He had to learn to read and write everything in Spanish because applications to American schools were denied because the American Medical Association is basically a piece of crap organization only trying to prevent doctors' rates here in America from becoming too competitive.]
One thing I learned at a young age and that you can always be sure of about a Mexican is that his or her word is no good. They behave in peculiar ways that are hard to explain, as if they think we think they are supposed to know something we should know. They talk with a straight face and act like they're being educational and think we're going to just stand there and be swindled.
Mexicans generally are easy to swindle, and they see our country as being richer, so that automatically equates to all Americans have money in their pockets, but when they try to play their tricks on Americans they get called out. Only the really, really dumb ones are taken for anything, and it usually isn't much. But it's something to them. It satisfies them to be that way.
-I recall finding a lost dog after seeing a flyer and when I asked my so-called Mexican friend Carlos to help return the dog to the proper address, we both walked there, he did the talking to the lady plus handed the dog back, and he also took the entire 200 peso reward. (Back then it was 22.5 pesos per American dollar and I could get a 16 ounce bottle of Coke for only 2 pesos so 200 pesos was a lot.)
-Lose your luggage at the Mexican airport.....every time.
-Beggars everywhere in Mexico. I used to ask my pop to pitch in a little and he did every now and then for certain beggars, but that stopped when he pulled out a wad once and the beggar instantly turned from amputee to Olympic hopeful, behind some alley-way, yelling something Mexican and assholish.
They think they are entitled to things you and I work hard for. They'll steal your shoelaces if you give them a chance.
Anyone who crosses a border illegally is taking a risk. I see no reason whatsoever to give 12 to 20 million Mexicans anything at all. Amnesty is total paradise for these greedy bastards. Why? Because we're pushovers?
Get tough, America! Start making demands!
-Marc T.
June 30th, 2007 at 1:04 pmVirginia Beach, VA
Voinobitch can't walk and chew gum at the same time. What a cretin! Doesn't know the outcome of a key vote. Has no clue of any cost of legislation that he is voting on, and anyone that has a differing opinion than his is intimidating him. Poor cry baby voinobitch. And I thought I had a dumb Senator (failed the bar three times and didn't know the price of a gallon of milk)
July 1st, 2007 at 9:44 amI generally think that Hannity is scum and don't listen to a word he says. He makes some extremely valid points here and I am happy that this bill died. The costs down the road of a path to citizenship for illegals through social security, welfare, and medical care will be exponentially higher than costs of enforcement and border protection now.
Neither the Democommies and Republicanazis have an answer for America. We need to turn to an outsider like Ron Paul and return to good constitutional rule, personal social liberty, and economic freedom
July 1st, 2007 at 9:46 pm#153 - That’s because they (Democrats) don’t give a damn about border security they just wanted voters.
Security? From what? The 9/11 hijackers were in this country legally. Why isn't it occurring to you that if Bush isn't securing the borders, it's because he knows that America isn't in danger of terrorist acts by migrant and below-minimum wage Mexican workers coming into the nation?
Bush and Cheney, Republicans and Democrats know this and want low wage Mexican workers to satisfy their corporate masters. The problem for Republicans in Congress is that their idiot constituents don't get it and actually bought Bush's war on terror. Republicans in Congress are finding themselves between Iraq and a hard place - how do you get the votes of people who are too stupid to realize they've been taken for fools?
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 amFrankly these silly "republicans" or RINOs like Hannity prove themselves to be aligned with liberals against bush in the end. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who disagrees with Bush is an America hating liberal; immigrants made this country great and there are industries here that can't make it without them. In fact, I say that we open our arms and hearts to the 10 million Iraq refugees and give them citizenship too. Who deserves it more than they do??
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:43 pmWhat is wrong with you people? If your progressive ideals were so palatable Air America wouldn't have gone into bankruptcy or embezzled funds from a charity. Conservative talk radio garners ratings and advertisers want shows with ratings. If the sound of a bird singing got high ratings advertisers would buy the time!
I don't presume to know why people don't want to listen to Progressive (or Liberal) talk radio in numbers great enough to make the format a success. You must face the fact that when it comes to Progressive talk... no one is listening.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:10 pm