Comments on: Voinovich Lashes Out At Hannity: ‘You’re Not Going To Intimidate Me,’ Then Hangs Up http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:43:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mike http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3924778 mike Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:10:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3924778 What is wrong with you people? If your progressive ideals were so palatable Air America wouldn't have gone into bankruptcy or embezzled funds from a charity. Conservative talk radio garners ratings and advertisers want shows with ratings. If the sound of a bird singing got high ratings advertisers would buy the time! I don't presume to know why people don't want to listen to Progressive (or Liberal) talk radio in numbers great enough to make the format a success. You must face the fact that when it comes to Progressive talk... no one is listening. What is wrong with you people? If your progressive ideals were so palatable Air America wouldn’t have gone into bankruptcy or embezzled funds from a charity. Conservative talk radio garners ratings and advertisers want shows with ratings. If the sound of a bird singing got high ratings advertisers would buy the time!

I don’t presume to know why people don’t want to listen to Progressive (or Liberal) talk radio in numbers great enough to make the format a success. You must face the fact that when it comes to Progressive talk… no one is listening.

]]> By: null http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3903107 null Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:43:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3903107 Frankly these silly "republicans" or RINOs like Hannity prove themselves to be aligned with liberals against bush in the end. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who disagrees with Bush is an America hating liberal; immigrants made this country great and there are industries here that can't make it without them. In fact, I say that we open our arms and hearts to the 10 million Iraq refugees and give them citizenship too. Who deserves it more than they do?? Frankly these silly “republicans” or RINOs like Hannity prove themselves to be aligned with liberals against bush in the end. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who disagrees with Bush is an America hating liberal; immigrants made this country great and there are industries here that can’t make it without them. In fact, I say that we open our arms and hearts to the 10 million Iraq refugees and give them citizenship too. Who deserves it more than they do??

]]> By: Ella Fent-Seid http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3900854 Ella Fent-Seid Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:21:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3900854 #153 - <i>That’s because they (Democrats) don’t give a damn about border security they just wanted voters.</i> Security? From what? The 9/11 hijackers were in this country legally. Why isn't it occurring to you that if Bush isn't securing the borders, it's because he knows that America isn't in danger of terrorist acts by migrant and below-minimum wage Mexican workers coming into the nation? Bush and Cheney, Republicans and Democrats know this and want low wage Mexican workers to satisfy their corporate masters. The problem for Republicans in Congress is that their idiot constituents don't get it and actually bought Bush's war on terror. Republicans in Congress are finding themselves between Iraq and a hard place - how do you get the votes of people who are too stupid to realize they've been taken for fools? #153 – That’s because they (Democrats) don’t give a damn about border security they just wanted voters.

Security? From what? The 9/11 hijackers were in this country legally. Why isn’t it occurring to you that if Bush isn’t securing the borders, it’s because he knows that America isn’t in danger of terrorist acts by migrant and below-minimum wage Mexican workers coming into the nation?

Bush and Cheney, Republicans and Democrats know this and want low wage Mexican workers to satisfy their corporate masters. The problem for Republicans in Congress is that their idiot constituents don’t get it and actually bought Bush’s war on terror. Republicans in Congress are finding themselves between Iraq and a hard place – how do you get the votes of people who are too stupid to realize they’ve been taken for fools?

]]> By: Jim http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3900529 Jim Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:46:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3900529 I generally think that Hannity is scum and don't listen to a word he says. He makes some extremely valid points here and I am happy that this bill died. The costs down the road of a path to citizenship for illegals through social security, welfare, and medical care will be exponentially higher than costs of enforcement and border protection now. Neither the Democommies and Republicanazis have an answer for America. We need to turn to an outsider like Ron Paul and return to good constitutional rule, personal social liberty, and economic freedom I generally think that Hannity is scum and don’t listen to a word he says. He makes some extremely valid points here and I am happy that this bill died. The costs down the road of a path to citizenship for illegals through social security, welfare, and medical care will be exponentially higher than costs of enforcement and border protection now.

Neither the Democommies and Republicanazis have an answer for America. We need to turn to an outsider like Ron Paul and return to good constitutional rule, personal social liberty, and economic freedom

]]> By: Dennis http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3899068 Dennis Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:44:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3899068 Voinobitch can't walk and chew gum at the same time. What a cretin! Doesn't know the outcome of a key vote. Has no clue of any cost of legislation that he is voting on, and anyone that has a differing opinion than his is intimidating him. Poor cry baby voinobitch. And I thought I had a dumb Senator (failed the bar three times and didn't know the price of a gallon of milk) Voinobitch can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. What a cretin! Doesn’t know the outcome of a key vote. Has no clue of any cost of legislation that he is voting on, and anyone that has a differing opinion than his is intimidating him. Poor cry baby voinobitch. And I thought I had a dumb Senator (failed the bar three times and didn’t know the price of a gallon of milk)

]]> By: marco http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3897460 marco Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:04:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3897460 I'm from Va Beach, VA and lived in Guadalajara, Mexico for two years as a youth (aged 7 and 8 mostly) in the late 1970s when my dad attended medical school there. [-He had to learn to read and write everything in Spanish because applications to American schools were denied because the American Medical Association is basically a piece of crap organization only trying to prevent doctors' rates here in America from becoming too competitive.] One thing I learned at a young age and that you can always be sure of about a Mexican is that his or her word is no good. They behave in peculiar ways that are hard to explain, as if they think we think they are supposed to know something we should know. They talk with a straight face and act like they're being educational and think we're going to just stand there and be swindled. Mexicans generally are easy to swindle, and they see our country as being richer, so that automatically equates to all Americans have money in their pockets, but when they try to play their tricks on Americans they get called out. Only the really, really dumb ones are taken for anything, and it usually isn't much. But it's something to them. It satisfies them to be that way. -I recall finding a lost dog after seeing a flyer and when I asked my so-called Mexican friend Carlos to help return the dog to the proper address, we both walked there, he did the talking to the lady plus handed the dog back, and he also took the entire 200 peso reward. (Back then it was 22.5 pesos per American dollar and I could get a 16 ounce bottle of Coke for only 2 pesos so 200 pesos was a lot.) -Lose your luggage at the Mexican airport.....every time. -Beggars everywhere in Mexico. I used to ask my pop to pitch in a little and he did every now and then for certain beggars, but that stopped when he pulled out a wad once and the beggar instantly turned from amputee to Olympic hopeful, behind some alley-way, yelling something Mexican and assholish. They think they are entitled to things you and I work hard for. They'll steal your shoelaces if you give them a chance. Anyone who crosses a border illegally is taking a risk. I see no reason whatsoever to give 12 to 20 million Mexicans anything at all. Amnesty is total paradise for these greedy bastards. Why? Because we're pushovers? Get tough, America! Start making demands! -Marc T. Virginia Beach, VA I’m from Va Beach, VA and lived in Guadalajara, Mexico for two years as a youth (aged 7 and 8 mostly) in the late 1970s when my dad attended medical school there. [-He had to learn to read and write everything in Spanish because applications to American schools were denied because the American Medical Association is basically a piece of crap organization only trying to prevent doctors' rates here in America from becoming too competitive.]

One thing I learned at a young age and that you can always be sure of about a Mexican is that his or her word is no good. They behave in peculiar ways that are hard to explain, as if they think we think they are supposed to know something we should know. They talk with a straight face and act like they’re being educational and think we’re going to just stand there and be swindled.

Mexicans generally are easy to swindle, and they see our country as being richer, so that automatically equates to all Americans have money in their pockets, but when they try to play their tricks on Americans they get called out. Only the really, really dumb ones are taken for anything, and it usually isn’t much. But it’s something to them. It satisfies them to be that way.

-I recall finding a lost dog after seeing a flyer and when I asked my so-called Mexican friend Carlos to help return the dog to the proper address, we both walked there, he did the talking to the lady plus handed the dog back, and he also took the entire 200 peso reward. (Back then it was 22.5 pesos per American dollar and I could get a 16 ounce bottle of Coke for only 2 pesos so 200 pesos was a lot.)

-Lose your luggage at the Mexican airport…..every time.

-Beggars everywhere in Mexico. I used to ask my pop to pitch in a little and he did every now and then for certain beggars, but that stopped when he pulled out a wad once and the beggar instantly turned from amputee to Olympic hopeful, behind some alley-way, yelling something Mexican and assholish.

They think they are entitled to things you and I work hard for. They’ll steal your shoelaces if you give them a chance.

Anyone who crosses a border illegally is taking a risk. I see no reason whatsoever to give 12 to 20 million Mexicans anything at all. Amnesty is total paradise for these greedy bastards. Why? Because we’re pushovers?

Get tough, America! Start making demands!

-Marc T.
Virginia Beach, VA

]]> By: Janus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3897037 Janus Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:48:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3897037 Just more ignorant bilge from Sean Hannutsy who, with Rush Limbaughloney, has NO academic credentials. Both are soidisant intellectuals financed by the ultra-Right, quasi-fascist arm of the Republican Party. Their appeal is to the ignorance of the Dupes upon whom the Party relies to cheer and vote against themselves by sending blatant Stooges to Congress in response to the Hannutsy-Limbaughloney style of half-truths and downright lies that whip the Dupes into a frenzy each day. We can all thank the Dupes for the Puppet squatting in the White House oafel office and the havoc he has wreaked world-wise against all things American. Just more ignorant bilge from Sean Hannutsy who, with Rush Limbaughloney, has NO academic credentials. Both are soidisant intellectuals financed by the ultra-Right, quasi-fascist arm of the Republican Party. Their appeal is to the ignorance of the Dupes upon whom the Party relies to cheer and vote against themselves by sending blatant Stooges to Congress in response to the Hannutsy-Limbaughloney style of half-truths and downright lies that whip the Dupes into a frenzy each day. We can all thank the Dupes for the Puppet squatting in the White House oafel office and the havoc he has wreaked world-wise against all things American.

]]> By: RCW2001 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3896338 RCW2001 Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:10:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3896338 The Hannity/Voinovich exchange was entertaining indeed but at the end of the day... <b>Voinovich helped killed the immigration bill by voting 'nay' On the Cloture Motion....</b> I detest Hannity but....look at the Voinovich vote. The Hannity/Voinovich exchange was entertaining indeed but at the end of the day…

Voinovich helped killed the immigration bill by voting ‘nay’ On the Cloture Motion….

I detest Hannity but….look at the Voinovich vote.

]]> By: Steve http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3896309 Steve Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:49:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3896309 Lots of nasty comments here, debate is good but it's getting too personal. I'd just like to say that I don't think people that break the law (by entering the US Illegally) should be given easy access citizenship. If I as a citizen break the law, I pay the penalty. Why should it be different for someone here illegally? That might partly explain why so many folks were against- S-1363 <em>Stated in earlier post- according to Rasmussen report, only 23% supported the legislation.</em> Lots of nasty comments here, debate is good but it’s getting too personal.

I’d just like to say that I don’t think people that break the law (by entering the US Illegally) should be given easy access citizenship.

If I as a citizen break the law, I pay the penalty. Why should it be different for someone here illegally?

That might partly explain why so many folks were against- S-1363
Stated in earlier post- according to Rasmussen report, only 23% supported the legislation.

]]> By: Heritage who? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3896186 Heritage who? Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:25:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3896186 Hannity is puke in a suit. Adopt a senator. Voinovich is pliable on the war and on wiretaps. This is the right wing media machine pressuring dissident republicans into supporting the president. Who is this heritage foundation and what has got Hannitys knickers in such a twist? Heritage Heritage Heritage! ! !! Hannity is puke in a suit. Adopt a senator. Voinovich is pliable on the war and on wiretaps. This is the right wing media machine pressuring dissident republicans into supporting the president. Who is this heritage foundation and what has got Hannitys knickers in such a twist? Heritage Heritage Heritage! ! !!

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3895985 hellinabucket Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:02:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3895985 Hannity's a whiney manbitch Hannity’s a whiney manbitch

]]> By: Jason Baddo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3895499 Jason Baddo Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:02:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3895499 Sean Hannity & marge simpson have them boss....Rupert Murdoch. Enuff said Sean Hannity & marge simpson have them boss….Rupert Murdoch. Enuff said

]]> By: Dave http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3895016 Dave Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:08:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3895016 "Uh-oh…. they are starting to eat their own…" Everyone take seconds please. “Uh-oh…. they are starting to eat their own…”

Everyone take seconds please.

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3894966 Tracy Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:56:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3894966 #157 I have listened to her and all she is full of emotion. It's obvious by her low command of the english language. #157

I have listened to her and all she is full of emotion. It’s obvious by her low command of the english language.

]]> By: KayT http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3894843 KayT Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:36:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3894843 I found this clip amusing. Hannity repeatedly said that the bill was still being written, but touted the Heritage report that stated trillions of dollars in economic impact if the bill passed. How does that work? Voinovich, to give him credit, said that he wanted to see the entire bill and weigh the options before making a decision. Seems to be a reasonable approach. I found this clip amusing. Hannity repeatedly said that the bill was still being written, but touted the Heritage report that stated trillions of dollars in economic impact if the bill passed. How does that work?

Voinovich, to give him credit, said that he wanted to see the entire bill and weigh the options before making a decision. Seems to be a reasonable approach.

]]> By: jlm http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3894838 jlm Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:35:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3894838 Fairness Doctrine - by itself, won't solve the problem - you've still got Murdoch owning 39% of the media in the country - and he's the one who got the rightwing nutjobs into power - both here and his native Australia - there's one immigrant I'd like to deport! G. Voinovich - I'm a former Ohioan and blue as the sky - George is conservative, but not reactionary. I think he has moderated his views over the years. Or maybe it's just that the rest of his party has lost it's mind over the last 20 years, he looks more moderate I'm with those who want to give support to any who stand up to the hate-mongers. We've got to find middle ground somehow, or I fear for the future of our country. Fairness Doctrine – by itself, won’t solve the problem – you’ve still got Murdoch owning 39% of the media in the country – and he’s the one who got the rightwing nutjobs into power – both here and his native Australia – there’s one immigrant I’d like to deport!

G. Voinovich – I’m a former Ohioan and blue as the sky – George is conservative, but not reactionary. I think he has moderated his views over the years. Or maybe it’s just that the rest of his party has lost it’s mind over the last 20 years, he looks more moderate

I’m with those who want to give support to any who stand up to the hate-mongers. We’ve got to find middle ground somehow, or I fear for the future of our country.

]]> By: SGT Higgins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3894686 SGT Higgins Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:00:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3894686 A SENATOR DID THIS??? Holy crap! With fingers in ears: "la-la-la-la-la I can't hear you".... *click* A SENATOR DID THIS??? Holy crap!

With fingers in ears:
“la-la-la-la-la I can’t hear you”…. *click*

]]> By: jjjoe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3894528 jjjoe Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:18:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3894528 Amazing...a self-admitted, 40 year politician, than said "whatever that is" to the fairness doctine.....he wasn't even sure what the doctrine was!?! Also, Voinovich thinks that constituents telling him how they want him to vote is intimitation? I thought he represented those people. What a coward.....All of these incumbents should be voted out of office, because it doesn't matter what party you're affiliated with, this yahoos in Washington are too far connected from the American people and ALL of them are killing this country. Amazing…a self-admitted, 40 year politician, than said “whatever that is” to the fairness doctine…..he wasn’t even sure what the doctrine was!?! Also, Voinovich thinks that constituents telling him how they want him to vote is intimitation? I thought he represented those people. What a coward…..All of these incumbents should be voted out of office, because it doesn’t matter what party you’re affiliated with, this yahoos in Washington are too far connected from the American people and ALL of them are killing this country.

]]> By: EthioLib http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3894278 EthioLib Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:50:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3894278 I never thought I'd see the day when Sean Hannity would sound logical than anyone in the world! Not that I agree with eitehr one, but Hannity sounded more compsed and had the facts than Voinovish. I am sorry, but Voinovich scares me in that he sounds very unstable. I am serious. Well, good for them and they have Rove to thank for this internal snipping. It looks like it backfired on them BIG time! I never thought I’d see the day when Sean Hannity would sound logical than anyone in the world! Not that I agree with eitehr one, but Hannity sounded more compsed and had the facts than Voinovish. I am sorry, but Voinovich scares me in that he sounds very unstable. I am serious. Well, good for them and they have Rove to thank for this internal snipping. It looks like it backfired on them BIG time!

]]> By: TJM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out/comment-page-4/#comment-3894234 TJM Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:33:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/28/voinovich-lashes-out-at-hannity-%e2%80%98you%e2%80%99re-not-going-to-intimidate-me%e2%80%99-then-hangs-up/#comment-3894234 <em>It's clear that the internet/blogs/etc are going to replace cable as news sources</em> Not yet: 25. – 31. Where are you getting information about the presidential candidates? Are you getting information from: *******SUMMARY ****** Yes Television coverage 88% Newspaper coverage 69% Radio coverage 51% <strong>Internet news sites 38% Web logs or blogs 11%</strong> YouTube 7% MySpace 4 <a HREF="http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/062807_release_web.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here</a> It’s clear that the internet/blogs/etc are going to replace cable as news sources

Not yet:

25. – 31. Where are you getting information about the presidential candidates?
Are you getting information from:
*******SUMMARY ******
Yes
Television coverage 88%
Newspaper coverage 69%
Radio coverage 51%
Internet news sites 38%
Web logs or blogs 11%
YouTube 7%
MySpace 4

Here

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