Britain’s National Security Experts: Threat of Terrorism Increased As a Result Of War In Iraq
Britain’s National Security Experts: Threat of Terrorism Increased As a Result Of War In Iraq
Early this morning, British police “discovered an explosive device in a car laden with gasoline, nails, and gas canisters” in central London. British authorities have not said who may be responsible for the attempted attack, but Jacqui Smith, Britian’s new homeland secretary, characterized the incident as attempted “international terrorism.” The BBC noted that the timing may be significant as the incident comes as “the second anniversary of the 7 July bombings approach[es].”
Despite counterterrorism officials having “no prior intelligence information indicating” this attack might be imminent, Britain’s increased risk of “international terrorism” has long been attributed to British involvement in the war in Iraq by numerous national security experts:
Foreign Affairs Committee of the British Parliament:
“Britons are more - not less - likely to be the target of terrorist attacks as a result of the war in Iraq.” [BBC News, 2/2/2004]
Britain’s Joint Terrorist Analysis Center:
“[E]vents in Iraq are continuing to act as motivation and a focus of a range of terrorist-related activity in the UK.” [Financial Times, 7/19/2005]
Former chief of the British intelligence service MI5, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller:
“UK foreign policy … in Iraq and Afghanistan” has inspired a “violent threat” to the UK that will persist for “more than a generation.” [The Independent, 11/11/2006]
David Cameron, leader of Britain’s Conservative Party:
“It is clear that over the last few years decisions that have been taken, the difficulties there have been in Iraq, clearly have had a wider effect” and “the threat to Britain was now greater as a result of the war [in Iraq] was ‘a statement of fact.’” [ABC News, 12/18/2006]
Dr. Jonathan Eyal, the director of international security at the Royal United Services Institute:
The “terrorist threat facing Britain from home-grown al-Qaeda agents is higher than at any time since the September 11 attacks in 2001.” He faulted the “wars in Afghanistan and Iraq” and western government’s inability to kill or capture Osama bin Laden. [The Telegraph, 2/25/2007]
The U.S. intelligence community assessed that Iraq “has become the ‘cause celebre‘ for jihadists.” The State Department has acknowledged the war in Iraq “has been used by terrorists as a rallying cry for radicalization and extremist activity that has contributed to instability in neighboring countries.” The longer the occupation in Iraq continues, the more it serves as a recruiting and propaganda tool for terrorists. Ultimately — as British experts understand — the Iraq war leads to greater insecurity around the globe.
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Happenings
You're going to be told lots of things.
You get told things every day that don't happen.
It doesn't seem to bother people, they don't—
It's printed in the press.
The world thinks all these things happen.
They never happened.
Everyone's so eager to get the story
Before in fact the story's there
That the world is constantly being fed
Things that haven't happened.
All I can tell you is,
June 29th, 2007 at 1:23 pmIt hasn't happened.
It's going to happen.
Clinton did it too!!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:24 pmSo let me get this straight.. When you kill 1000's of innocent people, their relatives and friends might want revenge, so another 7-7 or 9-11 coming?
Who would have ever thought war for decades?
PNAC
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:24 pmWhen you go after a bee hive to kill them, you usually stir up the nest and increase your chances of getting stung. Doesn't change the fact that the bee hive must go if you want to live in peace in your backyard.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmPNAC
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Comment by RushBandFan — June 29, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
Typical Islamo-Stalinist Know-it-all.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmDuh?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmI hope that this would be clear by now. Over 6 decades of interventionism, militarism, aggression, coups, backing dictators and wars.... and we're not more prosperous, we're not more free, and we're not safer!
Doing these things engenders hatred and only guarantees reprisal attacks in the future.
We need a new path:
"How to Oppose Terrorism"
June 29th, 2007 at 1:28 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/how_to_oppose_terrorism
Typical Islamo-Stalinist Know-it-all.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES — June 29, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
Typical butt-licking-christ-taliban
June 29th, 2007 at 1:29 pmSo you think that the US is not more properous now vs. ... 6 decades ago which would be the 1940's. You just discredited anything else you have to say.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:29 pm"Britian’s National Security Experts: Threat of Terrorism Increased As a Result Of War In Iraq"
Gee do ya think so? By the way, that's Britain, better check your spelling my friend.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:29 pmI wonder when the streets of the US will start to look like Baghdad?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:30 pmComing to a street near you : IED's...
Comment by RushBandFan — June 29, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Typical Arrogant Lefty-Defeatist.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:30 pmIf we don't seal up our borders and stop illegals from coming into this country then it won't take a generation for our streets to look like those of the Middle East.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:32 pmIt's a recruiting "tool" for jihadists and a self-fulfilling prophesy which we are enabling by the continuation of this war.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:33 pmDoes anybody have the TRUTH of what went down on 9/11?
Is anybody willing to share what they know?
(I'm only accepting versions from the democratics, as of note, so other parties need not apply.)
June 29th, 2007 at 1:33 pmTony Blair is responsible for all the problems in the UK.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:34 pm#3 Amen! This and only this application of Bush's ridiculous words (Mission Accomplished) makes any sense.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:34 pmComment by CT V_1 — June 29, 2007 @ 1:33
Well then you have a problem.
You said you wanted the "TRUTH," but only from Dems (or Libs/Islamo-Stalinists, I'm assuming).
June 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pmIslam - which was started by a extremist who didn't think Chrisitanity went far enough - was created 1500 years ago with a mission of convert or die. They have been playing this game with the world for a long time and unless completely stopped will continue this war on the rest of us. History is pretty clear of what will happen when they are not challenged.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pmPerhaps Shrubbie actually was seeing the future spread of terrorism being aided and abetted by the continuation of this illegal, amoral war when he said those infamous two words aboard the aircraft carrier: MissionAccomplished. This "mission" whether by design or happenstance, is THE only mission which Bush has accomplished and will become his legacy.....
Bush #43 Legacy: The Rise of Terrorism Globally
June 29th, 2007 at 1:36 pmScrew it.
TP keeps deleting my name and e-mail info as PIP,
Mr. President is back!!!!!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:36 pm#19Sacko Troll: Rotsa ruck, dude! What a concept.....moron!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:37 pmThere is nothing illegal nor unjust about the War on Terror - Iraq being but one of many battlefields. The problem is we are not using enough might.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pmComment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
HAR HAR, What's an "Islamo-Stalinist"? HAR HAR
I couldn't be one of those, regardless. I am incapable of carrying bad ideology. I love peace.
I support rapes in correctional facilities, though that's exempt from "human rights". Especially for Scooter Libby. He's the most evilest criminal (political opponent) I knowee.
HERRRRE
June 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pmUnfortunately, for our idiot troll (John SackoCrapola) what is destroying this country is the Bush Cabal. We have little to fear from Muslim Extremists but much to fear from Christofascists and Neonazis among our midst....sitting in the highest offices of this country.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pmThe Bush-Nazis will save us all from the Islamo-fascists. As long as we maintain a proper level of fear.
Please for the sake of our republic, remain afraid and malleable to the terrorists who are trying to terrorize us all.
-Rove's Sphincter
June 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pm22 - projection as the libtards say.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pmI would expect shuch a dumb answer from a winger like you.
You don't have to kill one single bee to remove e hive. All you have to do is put them to sleep with smoke, then move the bees and their hive to a different location.
Not to mention that bees are GOOD for the environment.
Now if you had said wasps nest, that would be different. But then your analogy would actually be talking about going after bin Laden in his cave.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmComment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Very true.
And by the way, all of you Leftist Muslim lovers,
Johnny rounded the number to 1500 so you don't have to correct.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmGive an example of a Christofascists.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmJohn Sacks sounds like he's half in the bag. Rove's ball-bag that is.
-GSD
June 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmI love the way these demented fools interchange the War in Iraq and the global War on Terror when, in fact, one began well in advance of the other. The continuation of the War in Iraq actually has exacerbated global terrorism and the United States has become a worldwide target due to it's "preemptive strike policy"....
June 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pm30 - that is the extent of your intelligence I see.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pmdon't feed trollocchio, John Sacko$hit! He's nothing but a worthless, ignorant moron. Freeze this idiot out.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pmGreetings, Mr. President
Long time, no see.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pm31 - you are wrong about that. We had not invaded Iraq when 9/11 and the rest of the terrorist attacks in the prior 8 years before 9/11 happened so your comment makes no sense.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pmChristianity - which was started as we know it by Emperor Constantine to control the masses, because his pagan gods were losing popularity - was created 2,000 years ago with a mission of convert or die. This was followed by other convert or die missions, like the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pmLet's tell these village idiot trolls that we know precisely who they are....and no one here has any interest in dialoguing with a blathering fool. Adios Jake!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pmComment by Typical Libecrat — June 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
You are an Islamo-Stalinist. Here are two definitions, remember them and shut the fukc up, muslim lover.
I say:
Islamo-Stalinism: synthesis of the most retarded aspects of the Islam-loving Left and Stalinism.
The Joker says:
Islamo-Stalinist means a Leftist like yourself who’s an apologist for Muslims and makes every excuse for them.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pmAlso known as a Dhimmi.
Christofascist exhibit A:
Spongebob Dobson.
-GSD
Let's not forget murder advocating man of God Pat Robertson too.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pmGive an example of a Christofascists.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
George W Bush and you.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pm33 - As a typical liberal , you cannot make a comment without making a personal attack and using profanity in your discussion. Typical.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pmBesides, when he invokes memories of 911, he's definitely in a losing battle. Most americans doubt the official story now and are gathering the truth....I'd be careful what they ask for when them allude to 911....hahaha...shows what morons they really are.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pm40 - thanks for making my point about your empty arguments.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pmGreetings, Mr. President
Long time, no see.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 29, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Howdy, CT... heheheh.
Can you believe all these Islamo-Stalinist Lefties!?!?!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pmJohn "Nutsaqs" ---- strap on that M16, and get to fighting coward.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pmI've lived in peace with a beehive around. They mind their own business if you do too.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:44 pmIf you can't take the heat, John Sacko$hit/Jake, get out of the TP kitchen then!.....what a totally inane dolt!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:44 pm42 - most Americans think that the conspiracy guys are a bunch of nuts. You are so wrong yet you believe you are so right. What drug are you taking for that?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:44 pmThere is no such thing as a Christo-Fascist.
You guys are just being ridiculous.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmComment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
Almost as bad as the Nazi-Bedwetting-Brownshirt-Christian-Taliban huh?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pm"33 - As a typical liberal , you cannot make a comment without making a personal attack and using profanity in your discussion. Typical.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007"
Coming from the Rush "Barack the Magic negro" Limbaugh and Ann "Making fun of dead children" Coulter wing of the Bush/Coulter Republican Party.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
June 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pm33 - As a typical liberal , you cannot make a comment without making a personal attack and using profanity in your discussion. Typical.
Comment by John Sacks
As a typical wingnut troll, you cannot make a comment without making a vague generality about liberals and babbling nonsense in your discussion. Typical.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmActually, I come here to validate the facts that most liberals cannot debate, nor communicate - they can only whine, moan, bitch and cuss and make personal attacks on those that don't agree with them.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmthe war on terror is Cheney's Long Protracted Wet Dream : $$$ and Power...
June 29th, 2007 at 1:46 pmSo, you have taken on other screen names and now are going to go with the rest of the trolls?
Sad, I thought you said you wanted to actually discuss things. I guess that isn't true. Bummer.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:46 pm52 - I don't think so - just read the threads on this drivel of a blog and the rest of them out there. The data is there in my favor on that one.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:46 pmActually, I come here to validate the facts that most liberals cannot debate, nor communicate - they can only whine, moan, bitch and cuss and make personal attacks on those that don’t agree with them.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007
Like Hannity and Couler and Limbaugh and Savage?
-GSD
June 29th, 2007 at 1:46 pmThreat of Terrorism Increased As a Result Of War In Iraq......
Gee, ya THINK?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:47 pmHey Spudge: I don't think these morons want to get into a serious discussion about christofascism....and the level of terrorism, violence, and criminal behavior that it has in it's history, do you?
I love the way the reichwing locksteppers spew their detritus -as though radical extremists are singular to the Islam faith. Christianity has a long history of extremism as well as convenient alteration of it's basic precepts to suit the whims of the ruler at the time. Just look at Henry VIII and the Christian church of England for openers...
June 29th, 2007 at 1:47 pmI'm sorry I coined the term Islamo-Stalinist 3 days ago. Now the tards are overusing it.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:47 pmComment by GSD — June 29, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
That is not a Christo-Fascist. That is merely a preacher.
You however seem to be quite the Islamo-Stalinist.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pmComment by John Sacks
The problem is that, instead of getting rid of the bee hive in your own back yard, you raid the vegetable garden in your neighbor's yard.
What, exactly, has the current administration done to make the US safer since 9/11?
Are the ports more secure?
Are chemical plants more secure?
Are the borders more secure?
Have any of the 9/11 commission recommendations been put into effect?
Don't give me "we're fighin' them over there so we don't have to fight 'em over here" line. It's quite clear that nothing stands in the way of an individual that seeks to do us harm as the London attacks demonstrate.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pmThe American people don't like whining and moaning in general - that is why Liberal talk radio has been such a disaster and has garnered no audience. What liberals claim is whining and moaning on the right is actually truth and optimism, two things that undermind the liberal's philosophy.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pmChristo-fascists for Tim McVeigh!
-GSD
June 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pmAll forms of religious extremism need to be extinguished, or at least marginalized. Get back in your corner you freaks!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmThe only thing these idiot trolls bring to the thread is a greater recruitment to the Democratic Party. I love it! Actually, it's a "double win" for the left - these trolls come here and make utter fools of themselves and due to their overt lack of education, intelligence, and history, succeed in recruiting people to the Democratic party for us.....so don't shoo them away for they have a valid purpose. Just freeze them out and make them look like idiots.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmHey guys. Let's keep these threads nice and clean, shall we? Zooey's back on line and she deserves only the best. So, let's keep on trolling, but let's maintain a certain level of professionalism at least when she's posting in the thread. She's just too cool to be messed with.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:50 pmSo, you have taken on other screen names and now are going to go with the rest of the trolls?
Sad, I thought you said you wanted to actually discuss things. I guess that isn’t true. Bummer.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 29, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
I tell people when I switch.
Mostly it is because my info is deleted after a post and it is a bitch to type it all back in again. That never happened when I was "Mr President"
June 29th, 2007 at 1:50 pmWhat happened to "fightin' em over there, so we won't have to here?"
Oh right, not one of the Repukes talking points anymore...
June 29th, 2007 at 1:50 pm#65 You got it! Have you read Christopher Hitchen's blockbuster entitled "God Is Not Great" yet?? It traces religion through the ages and illustrates how it has been used for evil, corrupt purposes. Radical religion of ANY kind is counterproductive to the human spirit.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:50 pm59 - Your typical comparison of Chirtians and Muslims holds no water. Giving the moral equivalency of the actions of a few nutbag Christians to an entire global organizaed movement against all that is non Islam is flawed at its core.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:50 pmDoes anybody have the TRUTH of what went down on 9/11?
Yup, Bush and Cheney are OIL WHOREBAGS and coxuckers of the Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS, the ones that are STILL funding Al Queda.
They are the OIL WHOREBAGS of the IslamoTERRORISTS.
TRAITORS to the USA.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmRepublicans: Make the United States LESS SAFE since 2001.
You can thank the Republicans for 9/11.
You can thank the Republicans for creating a terrorist breeding ground in Iraq.
You gotta wonder, is there ANYTHING Republicans know how to do correctly? Doesn't seem so.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmRepuke trolls whine about personal attacks but support Mann Coulter, the queen bitch of personal attacks.
Repukes are inbred morons.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmAll forms of religious extremism need to be extinguished, or at least marginalized. Get back in your corner you freaks!
Comment by ForTruth — June 29, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
INDEED!!!
I say we blow up Mekka, Jerus*lem, and the Vatican.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmTrollsForZooey=Mr. President
June 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmHey Mr. President.
Do you think Mr. Cheney, your VICE President, has crossed the line and is running the country for you?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:52 pmHowdy, CT… heheheh.
Can you believe all these Islamo-Stalinist Lefties!?!?!
Comment by Mr. President
Mr. President, you've apparently picked up on this true and sleek label for your opponent loons. I must warn you, however, that you're going to see a lot more of these know-it-alls suddenly play stupid and inquire on both the definitions of "Islamo" and "stalinist." It's only one way these stupid loons seek to avoid accountability when confronted. Good luck, Texan.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:52 pmThe admin is in a catch 22. They want to launch another "attack" to get people all freaked out again, and get back in line, but they know it could very well backfire on them as people would get pissed about not being safe after putting up with Jorge's antics.
So they decided to have the attacks occur in London. Fear can be instilled in Americans, and they are still safe. Good call Karl.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:52 pm#69 Yes....that ridiculously inhumane talking point of the GOP is now finished! How self-righteous of us to use such a disgusting talking point like that in the first place. It implies that we are thrilled that the war is succeeding in the murder of hundreds of thousands innocent Iraqis -men, women and children. And we should somehow be proud to spout that off? Amazing how ignorant these folks can be to even suggest such a heinous thing.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:52 pmLiberals are mostly losers who dropped out of school, have no jobs, live in their parent's basements and mooch off of their conservative friends who have careers and can afford to pay for the wacky friend.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:53 pmHey Mr. President.
Do you think Mr. Cheney, your VICE President, has crossed the line and is running the country for you?
Comment by Gaydar3000 — June 29, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
Not at all. He is a great Veep.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:53 pmTheir "fear tactics" no longer work here in this country. We now KNOW that our worst enemies are those "within"....sorry boys, but you're going to have to try to push our buttons some other way.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:53 pm# 58 - Threat of Terrorism Increased As a Result Of War In Iraq……
Gee, ya THINK? --- Right? How were we all to know that terrorists don't like being hounded and harassed when they're trying to kill people. Like John Sacks said earlier, when you take out a hornet's nest, you're gonna rile a few of 'em, and possibly be stung.....The nest still has to go.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:53 pmJohn Stacks,
Your beehive metaphor is faulty on two levels.
The first is a misunderstanding of the nature of bees. You can live peacefully with a beehive in your backyard if you do not bother the beehive.
The second is a misunderstanding of geography. You metaphor implies that a backyard is a place where a person should live in peace. I think you meant this as the place where people live or their country. It does not make sense for someone to eliminate a terrorist who is not in his backyard because the terrorist does not present a threat. The coalition of the willing invaded iraq under the premise that we should fight the terrorists in iraqs backyard. so they left their backyards and entered the iraq's backyard and stirred up the beehive there. So maybe a better metaphor is to not stir up the beehives in your neighbors backyards because then you are going to cause the bees to sting both you and them. Point in case, we invaded iraq and now 3500+ americans are dead and 150,000+ iraqs are dead. Maybe americans didnt really understand the beehive and should have just left it alone?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pmTrollsForZooey=Mr. President
No I'm not. I'm a conglomerate of trolls, representing multiple people, who just happen to think that Zooey's the coolest person on this site ever. As far as I know, the person known by his/her moniker "Mr. President" is not one of us.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pmTrollsForZooey=Mr. President
Comment by Fact Man — June 29, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
Umm... Zooey's my friend and I try to respect her.
Fact Man = Flat-out wrong
June 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pmya know....anyone still smelling something fishy in the official story about 911 need only cogitate on that thought and the blaring contradiction of Bush not reacting while immersed totally in a first grade book along with keeping our borders open for 5 years following it....duh! Any moron knows that if there's danger lurking nearby, you certainly don't leave your doors unlocked! What a group of total nut cases.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:55 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
Furry clump, may I refer you to my subsequent postings on the Tony Snow/subpeonas thread. That would be much appreciated.
Those smoke alarms must be a constant nuisance in hell, huh? Don't forget a fire extinguisher in every room. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH!!!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 1:55 pmStupid racist Repuke troll blames all 1.2 billion Muslims for the terrorist acts of a few.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:55 pmNah drew, we need to take out the rest of them. They want to kill us, they will not stop until they are dead. Get it?
June 29th, 2007 at 1:56 pmJohn has resorted to attempts at pressing our buttons.
No John, its the other way around. You are in your mom's basement blogging in between masturbation sessions.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:56 pmMr. Pee/PiPpy, can you be a little more specific about what the term "Islamo-Stalinist" means?
What elements of "Islamo" do you feel typifies this imaginary left? What elements of "Stalinism" apply, and how do these two seemingly inconsistent ideologies mesh into a scary-sounding threat to all this is good and prosperous?
Or is it just (as I suspect) a meaningless amalgam of evil-sounding labels that suits your purpose of demonizing those that disagree with your unsophisticated worldview?
I'll need that answer in the form of an essay.
Thank you.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:56 pmStupid racist Repuke troll blames all 1.2 billion Muslims for the terrorist acts of a few.
Comment by Tom3 — June 29, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
No one said that, idiot.
You are obviously an Islamo-Stalinist.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:57 pm90 - Not all - but many. I do believe that traditional Islam is not compatable with American culture.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:57 pmToo bad Republicans didn't spend any time "fighting them over here" before they allowed Al Qaeda to fly jet airliners into the World Trade Center and The Pentagon.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:57 pmComment by Mr. President
Update: Muslimshiteaters (tm).
June 29th, 2007 at 1:58 pm"Liberals are mostly losers who dropped out of school, have no jobs, live in their parent’s basements and mooch off of their conservative friends who have careers and can afford to pay for the wacky friend.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007"
Troll Malfunction, please reprogram with new message:
Liberals are rich, blue-blooded elites who go to Ivy Leagues schools, drive around in limos and Volvo's , spend millions on giant houses, drink latte and travel to France, Cuba and Venezuela.
Enact troll reprogramming flash now!
-Rove-Bot 2000
June 29th, 2007 at 1:58 pmThe fact that you change names from time to time was not the point of my post.
June 29th, 2007 at 1:59 pmNah John Stack, can't you see that using violence to solve this problem has only lead to more violence and terrorism? Thats the whole point of this post. America will never be able to take out all of the terrorists with physical force which has been demonstrated over the past 50 years. Our foreign policy is failing us. We need a new direction.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:00 pmLiberals have both extremes no doubt. I would venture to say that the rich ones inherited their money - they didn't work for it. Actors in Holywood are like that in the way that they really didn't work for their money either.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:00 pmI agree here. Actors are waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy over paid.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:02 pmJohn lots of liberal types work their asses off. Lots of conservitards come from rich families and don't do shit.
I don't think there is a significant difference on either side. People are gonna be people in that regard.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pm104 - wrong. The work your ass off liberal is an exception to the rule.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pmJohn Sacks and Drew:
Terrorists are not bees. They don't react like bees. This is a problem that cannot be solved with platitudes, parables or fables. Unfortunately, this administration gleaned only the intelligence and predictions that would support their preordained agenda. Then they act surprised that things actually turned out the way they did.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:04 pm105 - yea, they are more like roaches.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:05 pmComment by spit take — June 29, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
Well, you'll get it in comment form, and if you don't like it, eat a dick.
The Islamo part comes from the term Islamist. An Islamist is someone who thinks that Muslims have a unique way of living and that that some how exempts them from "Western" standards, there is more to it but you'll have to research that yourself, bucko.
A Stalinist is, of course, a form of communism.
The two terms combined denote you.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:05 pmYeah, sure Nazi IslamoTERRORIST azzhole-licker of TRAITOR Bush the COXUCKER punk Saudi OIL WHOREBAG.
So, tell us azzhole-licker of TRAITOR Bush,
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission??
i.e. SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE USA??
Come on, Nazi azzhole-licker, BRING IT ON.
Because ALL of YOUR barbs directed toward ME mean that YOU can’t be taken seriously, especially since you support WAR CRIMINALS.
The REAL WAR CRIMINALS are the Bushes, and they and YOU will burn in hell for ETERNITY.
And Bush and Cheney are COXUCKER punk TRAITORS to the USA..
BURN!
SIZZLE!
FRY!
TOAST!
ROAST!
SINGE!
Have a nice day!!!
See you in hell Nazi azzhole-licker (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
June 29th, 2007 at 2:05 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COWARDLY AWOL TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo, Inc.)
In 2009, the Democraut Party will seek to inject an Obamo-Stalinist into the White House.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:06 pmComment by spit take — June 29, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
Why would it sound evil?
June 29th, 2007 at 2:06 pmUmm… Zooey’s my friend and I try to respect her.
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Sure, you TRY, but she's DEFINITELY not your friend.
=)
June 29th, 2007 at 2:06 pmAnd yet, we have not had another terrorist attack in the U.S. since 9/11.
Many of the "learned" posters here may attribute this to the Bush admin. and their anti-terrorism policies. Ha!
I think it has more to do with the "terrorists" being told to "stand down"
June 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmLet's face it; if they wanted to, they can get in to this country, and blow themselves up in a shopping mall. So, why haven't they?
Because their masters have not given the order. Their masters are still in place, and still in control, and will strike when they deem the time is right; say, just prior to losing the White House in 2008.
Zooey has a babe complex to her, you can tell by her words.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmI must warn you, however, that you’re going to see a lot more of these know-it-alls suddenly play stupid and inquire on both the definitions of “Islamo†and “stalinist.†It’s only one way these stupid loons seek to avoid accountability when confronted. Good luck, Texan.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 29, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
Yeah, good point. The irrefutable logic of creating a meaningless hyphenated epithet and applying it indiscriminately to anyone who objects or disagrees is totally money.
You don't have to come up with a meaningful explanation, because those who inquire are not seeking clarification; they're merely trying to "avoid accountability". Accountability for what, you haven't explained and, if pattern holds, you won't.
So you and your troll buddies can high-five each other for scoring major points in the troll TP-equivalent of "Second Life". -- It's not ThinkProgress, but it is a nearly life-like fantasy world, a world in which "Islamo-Stalinist" makes perfect sense and answers all questions, a world that suits your purposes and boosts your egos so cruelly battered by the larger, reality-based community.
Far be it from me to intrude on the only sense of accomplishment you boys will ever be able to simulate. Enjoy.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pm#113: Come on. Don't be a hater.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:11 pmThe fact that you change names from time to time was not the point of my post.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — June 29, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
Then what is your problem.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:11 pmDo my posts offend you?
Look at "Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell" on any thread, any day.
Re: "105 - yea, they are more like roaches.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 2:05 pm"
Whatever happen to "Actually, I come here to validate the facts that most liberals cannot debate, nor communicate "
Went right out the window, I suppose.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:11 pmComment by spit take — June 29, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
I've given you idiots the definition multiple times.
The words "Islamist" and "Stalinist" are not new at all.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:12 pm#71
June 29th, 2007 at 2:13 pmA few nutbag Christians?
Like the crusades
Like the inquisition
Like the 50 million who allegedly voted for Bush?
Typical Islamo-Stalinist Know-it-all.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
Ah the NEOCON NAZI has spoken.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pmEveryone here should respect Zooey, after all, she LIVES here.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pm$120 - The original Crusades were a defensive move to Islamic aggresion in Eastern and Southern Europe. Your last more current one is nothing but a comment, not a definition.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pmOnce again, foiled by THE POLICE, NOT THE MILITARY.
HE-LLLOO???
June 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pmAh the NEOCON NAZI has spoken.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
Whatever shane, I bet you haven't even tried to google "democrat + stalinist"
June 29th, 2007 at 2:16 pmTypical Arrogant Lefty-Defeatist.
Comment by PRIMVS INTER PARES
The CHRISTO FASCIST WAR MONGERING CORPORATIST speaks.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmPRIMVS,
June 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmI like your posts better under your Clinton screenname. At least they made me laugh sometimes.
Comment by spit take
Cutting through your self-assuring academic babble, YOU, sir, are an Islamo-Stalinist. The "reality-based" titling of your postings signify nothing, is purely weak.
'Islamo-Stalinist' is the correct label according to your tanking ideology. You will need to accept that.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:18 pmIs anybody willing to share what they know?
(I’m only accepting versions from the democratics, as of note, so other parties need not apply.)
Comment by CT V_1
Oh isn't that cute, you're chumming for Ace. Or are you the baid that PIP puts on the hook to get him here?
June 29th, 2007 at 2:18 pmOh goody another Christianist for me to educate. Welcome John Sucks... Or are you just another alias for the choleric troll m12? Anyway...
Let's examing the peaceful and loving nature of Christianity, shall we?
Lesson One:
The Christian Crusades 1095-1291
A series of seven medieval campaigns occuring during the time of Medieval England against Muslims.
The Christian Inquisition 1233 - 1808
Ultimately it was a lengthy period of Christians persecuting non-Christians and Jews, for the sake of conversion. In Spain alone an estimated 31,912 heretics were burned at the stake, 17,659 were burned in effigy and 291,450 made reconciliations in the Spanish Inquisition.
The Christian Salem Witch Trials 1692
Women were burned at the stake for being accused of witchcraft.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:20 pmComment by shane
The President was already here. I want to know the TRUTH about 9/11, since all of you claim to have it on ice.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:21 pmMr. Bush goes to Hell
June 29th, 2007 at 2:22 pmYour language is a bit rough but I do agree in general
Women were burned at the stake for being accused of witchcraft.
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
Oh great, another religious kook.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:22 pmComment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
Well, you’ll get it in comment form, and if you don’t like it, eat a dick.
What a douche-bag. Oh, that's right -- t's Mr. Pee. Incapable of civilized discourse because he either has limited language skills, limited comprehension or just a deep sense of inferiority.
The Islamo part comes from the term Islamist. An Islamist is someone who thinks that Muslims have a unique way of living and that that some how exempts them from “Western†standards, there is more to it but you’ll have to research that yourself, bucko.
The picture becomes clearer. It's probably limited comprehension. I don't know where you get your belief that posters on TP think that "Muslims have a unique way of living that exempts them from 'Western' standards", or why (if that even made any sense) that term would apply automatically to anyone who criticized Bush's policy in the middle east.
Actually, "bucko", it's you who think Muslims are so much different than the west.
A Stalinist is, of course, a form of communism.
Wow. That was illuminating. Do you even know what communism is? I doubt it, or else you wouldn't try to inject it into a discussion like this. Granted, it's a pathetic attempt, but it's an attempt nonetheless.
The two terms combined denote you.
Can you point to a single thing that I have posted that leads to the conclusion that I am either an "Islamist" or a "Stalinist/communist"?
Let me help you out so you don't embarrass yourself too badly -- disagreeing with you is de facto evidence of neither.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:23 pmprojection as the libtards say.
Comment by John Sacks
Back at you Johnny Sackashit, you NEOCON NAZI CHRISTO FASCIST.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:23 pmIslamo-stalinism? LOL!
A phony ideology cooked up by Repuke trolls living in a delusional Bizzaro World.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:25 pmLesson Two:
Let's see what the loving and peaceful things the the bible says you should do to non-Christians:
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst."
--Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."
--2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB
"Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death."
June 29th, 2007 at 2:26 pm--Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT
John Sacks sounds like he’s half in the bag. Rove’s ball-bag that is.
-GSD
Maybe we should cut Sacksashit some slack. It's not easy typing from under Rove's desk with your mouth full and your eyes full of t*st*cles.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:26 pmLOL!!
June 29th, 2007 at 2:26 pmSo much for all the conservofascist ranting in the previous post. You trolls are dumb as sh!t.
Oh great, another religious kook.
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
Atheism is not a religion. Buy a dictionary.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:27 pmCutting through your self-assuring academic babble, YOU, sir, are an Islamo-Stalinist. The “reality-based†titling of your postings signify nothing, is purely weak.
‘Islamo-Stalinist’ is the correct label according to your tanking ideology. You will need to accept that.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 29, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
As I asked of your teammate, please point to a single statement I have posted that supports your insistence that I am an "Islamo-Stalinist".
Of course, if it's a meaningless term, you won't have to come up with any empirical backup. You guys made up the term, so you can apply it however you wish -- you don't have to adhere to any commonly accepted customs of language and word use.
Of course, simply insisting that an opponent is an "Islamo-Stalinist" without explaining why that term is appropriate could be seen as an admission that the term itself is meaningless.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:29 pmLesson Three:
Let's examine the nurturant way that the Lord God commands Christians to treat infants:
1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless "suckling" infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.
Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.
Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocksâ€.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:29 pmCan you point to a single thing that I have posted that leads to the conclusion that I am either an “Islamist†or a “Stalinist/communist�
Comment by spit take — June 29, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
You'll know when I cite your post and say something like:
"Typical Islamo-Stalinist wussy" and the such.
As for your last post:
Typical Lefty Know-it-all
June 29th, 2007 at 2:30 pmOffense at a post is not something that ever happens with me, so no.
What I am talking about was that I thought we had come to an understanding the other day (remember the whole raising a beer thing?) Just to finds out that you just took a different screen name and are trolling just for trollings sake.
I thought I found another conservative that I would be able to debate stuff with on their merits, to find out you just want to get a rise outta people.
That is what I find sad. I really would like to have some normal conservatives come on here and actually hold a conversation, even if it gets heated. But, you don't seem to want that.
It's up to you. I can't force you to converse with other Americans who just want to make this country better, whether we have differing opinions or not. I thought we had made some progress, but I guess not.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:30 pmWhere's Johnny?
Another conservative drop-out?
Figures...
June 29th, 2007 at 2:30 pmAll you Bushofascists are so amusing
June 29th, 2007 at 2:32 pmShe’s just too cool to be messed with.
Comment by TrollsForZooey
Wow the only "other" Zooey stalker is michael. Is that you little mikey. Or did one of you other trolls get bitch slapped and is hiding under a new name. Do tell.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:32 pmalso 99% aggree that the war has made us less safe
them bloody 1%ers
June 29th, 2007 at 2:33 pmMostly it is because my info is deleted after a post and it is a bitch to type it all back in again. That never happened when I was “Mr Presidentâ€
Comment by Mr. President
How hard is it to type Islamo Fascist? You don't have anything else to say any more.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:34 pm145 - Here's Johnny.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:37 pmWTF? We're not stalkers. We admire her and we don't want her to feel uncomfortable under any circumstances. Most of us in this colletive have an intellectual crush on her, so that's why we're doing this.
Zooey. If you want me/us to stop posting, just say so. We'll stop.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:37 pmNot at all. He is a great Veep.
Comment by Mr. President
Spoken like a true LOCKSTEPPING, BROWN SHIRT, NEOCON NAZI, CHRISTOFASCIST. Supporting Cheney, what else would you call that?
June 29th, 2007 at 2:38 pmYesterday someone said that Talk Radio is nothing but old angry white guys. I have heard more blacks, hispanics and woman call into these shows than old white men in recent days.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:39 pmStupid racist Repuke troll blames all 1.2 billion Muslims for the terrorist acts of a few.
Comment by Tom3 — June 29, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
No one said that, idiot.
You are obviously an Islamo-Stalinist.
Comment by Mr. President
He was replying to a Sacksashit post. Is that you too, Zooey's new stalker?
June 29th, 2007 at 2:42 pmActors in Holywood are like that in the way that they really didn’t work for their money either.
Comment by John Sacks
So Sacksashit, what are you a Christocommunist? Actors only make money if they make money for the studio. Should all that money go to the state then Commrade?
June 29th, 2007 at 2:45 pmWhat is a Chrisocommunist? That is a new made up hate word I am assuming but I have not seen it.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:46 pmThe work your ass off liberal is an exception to the rule.
Comment by John Sacks
F*ck you assh*le, my husband works 6 days a week from 7 am to 7 pm. What the f*ck are you doing keyboard commando? Why don't you talk about something you know? Oh that's right, you don't have a clue about apeshit anything.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:47 pmSure, actors are just meet to the studios but they make enough money without really working for it to become a limosine liberal slackoff. Then they are stupid enough to believe that anyone really cares what a highschool dropout who plays makebelieve for a living has to say.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:47 pmAnother new "feature" here. Name and email disappear with each refresh.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:48 pm157 - while your Conservative husband is working and paying for your toenails, your cabana boy and the rest of your excesive living, I am talking to you.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:48 pmSo Sacksashit, what are you a Christocommunist? Actors only make money if they make money for the studio. Should all that money go to the state then Commrade?
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
You can play dumb all you want. But the truth is, everyone KNOWS what an Islamo-Stalinist is, everyone KNOWS what an Islamo-Fascist is.
Your just making up words because you have no argument.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:48 pmAnother new “feature†here. Name and email disappear with each refresh.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Lovely, ain't it?
June 29th, 2007 at 2:49 pmUmm… Zooey’s my friend and I try to respect her.
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Sure, you TRY, but she’s DEFINITELY not your friend.
=)
Comment by Fact Man
PIPpy doesn't know he doesn't have any friends around here, except that *ssl*cker CT which is probably you Fat Man.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:49 pm157 - and I bet your Cabana boy is probably Gay but willing to eat that nasty snatch of yours because he is illegal and you threaten to turn him in.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:50 pmAnother new “feature†here. Name and email disappear with each refresh.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Just making it easier for the five trolls to pretend like there are a lot more of them...
June 29th, 2007 at 2:50 pmYour just making up words because you have no argument.
Comment by Mr. President
My lord, the irony.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:51 pmZooey has a babe complex to her, you can tell by her words.
Comment by CT V_1
And what kind of complex do you have, impotent *ssk*sser? You're talking about Zooey, are you out of you effing mind, oh never mind.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:51 pmSo you and your troll buddies can high-five each other for scoring major points in the troll TP-equivalent of “Second Lifeâ€. — It’s not
Comment by spit take
Only problem is spit take, when PIPpy and CT high five each other they don't use their hands, if you know what I mean. But then again, they don't have 5 between the two of them, not even end to end.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:54 pmWhat happened on 9/11/01? Ok, here's my stab at it.
19 well educated, fanatical Saudi men defamed their religion by hijacking four airliners, crashing 2 of them into the symbols of our economic might (the World Trade Center buildings), one into the symbol of our military might (the Pentagon), and the fourth one may have been intended for the Congress or Whitehouse. Three reached their targets, the forth one was brought down by American citizens short of its goal.
(Betcha you were expecting: Those planes were military/run by CIA agents as a false flag mission. Occam's razor, dude. In this case, the simplest explanation makes sense. However, the government had a hand in this, IMO)
Even though they had plenty of warning this was coming, a combination of incompetence (somewhat rectified by the Patriot Act, too bad the rest of the act is an Orwellian Masterpiece) and willful negligence by the Bush administration (warnings through the spring and summer leading up to 11 September that Bush ignored, including the August PDB) allowed the 19 men to carry out their mission.
Why? Well, old fashioned detective stories help here.
Do they have the means? Hell yeah! All it takes is a 'You've done your job, son', and Dubya is scott free.
Do they have the motive? Most definitely. They've been gunning for Iraq ever since before Clinton got in office. Bush has a personal interest in taking down Saddam. AND this is another Vietnam style war for Bush to make profit on and slam his political adversaries with. The same BS is being triped out now over the War in Iraq as was in the so-called Vietnam Conflict on both sides of the aisle.
And the opportunity? Well, here it is. September 11th. A day given on a golden platter for Bush's admin to start a takeover that's Nixonian in its view.
The trouble with you, CT V_1, is you trust Bush and his government, probably implicitly. Alot of us don't. Low poll numbers reflect this. The low poll numbers of the Congress do not refute this, they support it! Most Americans in general and myself in particular do not _trust_ the President, and are dismayed at the House of Representatives and Senate that they haven't _done_ anything about it. You try to paint opposition to your beloved Bush in tones of 'Islamo-Stalinist', which makes you a fool when you paint a libertarian or moderate Democrat who is anti-war with such a brush.
The people you support deserve a title. Christian Fascists (or 'Christo-Fascists' to save space). Fascism: The practice of making Loyalty to the State more important than loyalty to anything else. Christianity is a tool (your own people have said so!) to accomplish this goal. To dissent with Bush is to be anti-American. So be it. I dissented with Clinton. I dissented with Bush Senior. And I have suffered (personally suffered!) 6 years of rule by Bush Junior, and last time I took civics (back in '91), I distinctly remember that dissent was a very patriotic thing to do. If dissenting with your beloved Bush makes me Anti-American, then guess what? I don't WANT to be American anymore.
I distrust your leader, CT, and frankly, I distrust you as well. And everything you and your leader say, I intend on disputing and distrusting.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:55 pmJohn Sacks needs to be dealt with on three levels:
First, John seems to believe that liberals are a bunch of losers that mooch off their rich conservative friends. The problem, John, is that the statistics show you to be wrong. The states with the greatest per capita income are blue states. They send more of their federal tax dollars to states that have higher poverty, less health insured people, greater unemployment, higher rates of teenaged and unmarried pregnancies/greater divorce rates. They also tend to have the worst school systems. These states are, by in large, red states. The actual facts tend to indicate that the Republican form of governmentprovide for the worst social outcomes. Some would say that this indicates that most Republicans are lazy, stupid, uneducated and lack moral fiber. Certainly, the Repbulican elite pushes the theory that if you do not get rich in this country it is because you are somehow lacking as an individual. Democrats tend to believe that it is indeed the failure of Republican party values and policies that cause this result.
Second, John believes that there are only islamo fascists. Sorry John, every religion breeds its extremists. The Romans had their feeding of the Christians to the lions. The Christians had their Inquisition. There has traditionally been hostility between Catholics and Protestants (try Ireland). We have seen the KKK based on Christian values and abortion clinic bombers. We should not condem all of Christianity based upon these examples. We should not attempt to condemn all Islam either. However, our very real enemies in the Islamic world hope that we think and express these views. They want to turn this into a vast clash of the west against the middle east. You oblige them with your ignorant reaction and therefore aid and abet their efforts.
Third, John does not understand how to deal with terrorism or assymmetrical warfare.
a. Our opponents look to make small, sharp attacks in order to provoke an over-reaction on our part. Thus, instead of dealing with Osama and Al Quaeda in Afghanistan: we split our forces and left the job undone. By attacking a country that was not involved in the 9/11 attack, we struck a pose as a threat in the region.
b. Our opponents depend upon our inability to understand the culture within which they exist and to exercise hubris in our response. We went to war in Iraq when our President did not really know the differences between the three major religious/ethnic groups in the country. The Right Wingers, like John, were so over confident as to believe that we could attack and watch as the adoring people threw flowers in our path. Yea, likely story. Our failure to anticipate the resulting insurrection, our failure to react to the general chaos in the days immediately after the "mission was accomplished" and our continuing failure to understand the nature of the insurrection guaranteed military failure.
c. John does not understand that the blind use of force will indeed be counter productive. It must be measured and selective. Imagine if we had decisively taken out the Taliban and Al Quaeda in Afghanistan. Imagine if we had followed that victory with a well-thought-out reconstruction program. We had enjoyed the support of the entire Islamic world after 9/11. Even Iran offered help We could suspect their sincerety but not the poliltical straight jacket that world opinion had placed them in. Then we could have turned our attention to Iraq and accomplished our goals with diplomatically and with a minimum of force.
I could go on. However, John's thinking tends to be rigid, intellectually incurious and simplistic. I also sense one other problem with John that I have seen with many of the Chickenhawks. They are ruled by fear and cowardice. This causes them to see the potential end of civilization caused by a relatively small (although admitedly dangerous) group of radicals. I am sorry John but this does not come near to the threat our country faced from Nazi Germany, the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the Cold War or other past challenges our nation has faced. Al Quaeda was widly successful in its 9/11 attack. This should have been their greatest loss because of the revulsion shared by the entire world (including the vast majority of muslims). It was because of people like you that the United States finds itself creating more enemy than friends and vastly over stretched militarily.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:55 pmCome on. Don’t be a hater.
Comment by TrollsForZooey
Look at the impotent little boy trying to get attention by using Zooey's name. I guess you're used to getting only negative attention from your mother, teachers, bosses, wait scratch that, I'm sure you've never had a job.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:56 pmJohn Sacks=another proven troll who offers nothing to debate, is sexually deprived, and hasn't a clue how to communicate with the opposite sex (i.e. referring to the neather regions of a female as "snatch")
Nice.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:57 pmAnother JMH
Fred Thompson is one of those lazy-ass Hollywood actors who doesn't earn his pay. That no-talent hack has been "phoning it in" for years.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:57 pmSo, what was Clinton doing in the 1990s when Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were planning 9/11???? where we invading Iraq, Afghanistan???? anyone, anyone please?????
June 29th, 2007 at 2:58 pmCome on. Don’t be a hater.
Comment by TrollsForZooey
Look at the impotent little boy trying to get attention by using Zooey’s name. I guess you’re used to getting only negative attention from your mother, teachers, bosses, wait scratch that, I’m sure you’ve never had a job.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
well, he did get your attention, right? so mission accomplished on his side.
shane, what a poor fool.
June 29th, 2007 at 2:59 pmComment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
It's always nice to hear crusty hags rant on topics of a sexual nature to people 30 years their junior. Ever think we find that a bit disgusting, crud licker? You make people want to stop paying their social security taxes. I mean, is this this next raging generation of seniors?
Swith to decaf, STAT.
Here's a note: I don't care to hear you project any further. How are you giving your employees "pensions" and "insurance" when you're consumed before a computer? I wonder what the formula would be.
And cease the stalking of those on the count of political dissent, that would be most appropriate. You're only reinforcing the negative attributes of your party by doing so.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:00 pmJohn Sucks, recess is over, back to class.
Lesson Four
The United States has the highest incarceration rate in the whole world. Who do you think is occupying these facilities for their criminal behaviour? Who?
Wrong.
Non-Christians are only about 5% of the US prison population, while the US has a 30% non-Christian population... Jesus is an inmate's best friend...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:00 pmSo, what was Clinton doing in the 1990s when Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were planning 9/11???? where we invading Iraq, Afghanistan???? anyone, anyone please?????
Comment by Conservadum— June 29, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Wait, wait, wait....let me answer.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:01 pmummmm, preventing terrorist attacks from Islamo-faceo-Stalinistics?
So you can cut and paste factless drivel - good for you. BTW, Washington DC probably the most liberal jurisdiction in the US has the highest paid teachers in the country as well as the highest drop out rate. Their liberal views on Education are doing great service to the young in DC.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:01 pmOnly problem is spit take, when PIPpy and CT high five each other they don’t use their hands, if you know what I mean. But then again, they don’t have 5 between the two of them, not even end to end.
Comment by shane
Note to 53 year-old woman: grow up.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:01 pmWhere’s Johnny?
Another conservative drop-out?
Figures…
Comment by unbelievable
Apparently Rove is demanding more attention from under his desk. Johnny obviously is not a multitasker.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:02 pmWAY TO GO JMOHR!!!
*WAY* to go. Exactly. THIS is what I have been saying. Make an example out of the Taliban and Al Queda. WHAT THE HELL are they still doing in existance. Because, Sachs, Mr. President, PIP, and all the other names (probably belonging to 2 or 3 real people), your beloved President _dropped the ball_. And now, we're ALL going to get owned by your short-sighted testosterone soaked folly.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:02 pmWhat was Clinton doing when these Muslim Terrorist tried to bring down the WTC in 1993????? where we invading or attacking any Muslim nation????
how about in 1998 when Al Qaeda bombed two American embassies in Africa.....was Clinton also invading an Arab nation????
how about USS Cole???
I mean if we follow left wing logic, Clinton failed miserably during the 1990s dealing with Arab nations, it is Clinton's fault that all those terrorist attacks happened and he was invading Arab nations. right?
amazing how quick the left is to blame America for the ills of the world.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:03 pmHere’s Johnny.
Comment by John Sacks
Did Karl let you up for air. No happy ending I'll bet. You're going to get your lazy ass fired and Rove is going to call Gannon back.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:04 pm184 - Cabana boy got your tounge?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:05 pmShane,
June 29th, 2007 at 3:05 pmYou have made some hurtful comments in last 15min or so, mean-spirited comments designed solely to hurt.
WTF? We’re not stalkers. We admire her and we don’t want her to feel uncomfortable under any circumstances. Most of us in this colletive have an intellectual crush on her, so that’s why we’re doing this.
Zooey. If you want me/us to stop posting, just say so. We’ll stop.
Comment by TrollsForZooey
So what you're saying is you don't even know you're a pathetic stalker. Better tell your therapist about this before somebody in your mobile home park gets hurt. Oh, can you trailer trash folk afford therapy?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:06 pmRecruitment to the democratic party? To all of you leftist and possible future leftist who are believing what these Islamo-Stalanist are PREACHING,go to http://www.michaelsavage.com and watch what the fun loving Islamist do to get their point accross. They behead Americans because we are Americans and we love freedom . If you have the guts to watch this,and I know you don't, because that would be actually admitting that we have a real enemy and not some fairy tale foe that the democratic party and the press want you to believe. I dare you to watch it. I then dare you to say this is just and our fault. They could have put a bullet in their heads and ended it quick!No,they saw your head off and hold it high in the name of Islam.Watch it you cowards. And for those who say you dont have to because this is Americas fault,you are living with your blinders on and you are just as dangerous as the enemy!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:06 pmSo, what was Clinton doing in the 1990s when Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were planning 9/11???? where we invading Iraq, Afghanistan???? anyone, anyone please?????
Comment by Conservadum— June 29, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Wait, wait, wait….let me answer.
ummmm, preventing terrorist attacks from Islamo-faceo-Stalinistics?
Comment by DRxJ — June 29, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
really DRxJ? that is why we had so many Muslim terrorist attacks while he was in office, eh?
and what is why he caught Bin Laden, right? oh wait......right?
that is why he had from 1993 until 2000 to destroy Al Qaeda and catch Bin Laden, right? and he did this, right? my bad......
June 29th, 2007 at 3:06 pmhow about in 1998 when Al Qaeda bombed two American embassies in Africa…..was Clinton also invading an Arab nation????
how about USS Cole???
Comment by Conservatroll — June 29, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
how about 2001, when Al Qaeda hijacked 4 American planes, in AMERICA, and massacred over 3000 innocent AMERICAN lives?...was Bush also invading and arresting the perpatrators???
how about the Antrax attacks???
(Quick, now is the time where you change your posting name)
June 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pmComment by Jeremy
I shouldn't have asked, Jeremy. Now you're late for your shift at Burger King. I know it must take up a lot of up your time to post useless propaganda.
Thanks anyways.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWhat is a Chrisocommunist? That is a new made up hate word I am assuming but I have not seen it.
Comment by John Sacks
It is a Bush Bootlicker who doesn't think anybody but Neocon Nazis should make a living.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:08 pmBTW, Washington DC probably the most liberal jurisdiction in the US has the highest paid teachers in the country as well as the highest drop out rate.
Wrong, Georgia, a very red state, has the highest drop out rate in the country.
Their liberal views on Education are doing great service to the young in DC.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Teacher are generally liberal, but the problem is that the Adminstrators who create curriculum standards and set the punishment-oriented rules are overwhelmingly conservative - and that is what's failing the students. NCLB is a prime example.
The statistics show that students who drop out are rarely failing. That they leave because they consider the curriculum (nothing to do with the teacher) irrelvant and boring... Hence, a Conservative problem...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:08 pmSo, what was Clinton doing in the 1990s when Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were planning 9/11???? where we invading Iraq, Afghanistan???? anyone, anyone please?????
Comment by Conservatron
Finding, arresting, trying, convicting and imprisoning the terrorists responsible for the first attack on the WTC, among other things. Why is it that you wingnuts always conveniently forget that?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:09 pmClinton was getting the Presidential pencil wiped by an Intern his daughter's age while his rug munching wife had her eye's on some other broad.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:09 pmShane,
You have made some hurtful comments in last 15min or so, mean-spirited comments designed solely to hurt.
Comment by Mr. President
Ohhhhh, did its widdle feelings gets hurt? Poor little boo-boo.
Are you also taking to task the person going on about pool boys and nasty snatches? No? I didn't think so.
Poor little hypocrite had his hand slapped. Tough.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:11 pmSo DC fell off the curve a little since the last time I checked...."Georgia had the lowest overall graduation rate in the nation with 54% of students graduating, followed by Nevada, Florida, and Washington, D.C. "
June 29th, 2007 at 3:11 pmSure, actors are just meet to the studios but they make enough money without really working for it to become a limosine liberal slackoff. Then they are stupid enough to believe that anyone really cares what a highschool dropout who plays makebelieve for a living has to say.
Comment by John Sacks
The average Screen Actor's Guild (SAG) member makes $5,000 a year acting. They all have second jobs and work their asses off to build a career. DeNiro, Hoffman, Nicholson all of them worked 10-15 years before they were successful. You don't have an effing clue about this either. Most of the work actors do is deferred payment when they're
June 29th, 2007 at 3:12 pmgetting started. That means only if the project is picked up by a big studio and makes money will they get paid. Get a clue before you shoot your big mouth off why don't you.
Apparently Rove is demanding more attention from under his desk. Johnny obviously is not a multitasker.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
LOL... Or a thinker :D
Just a year ago, the standard 'trolls' around here were actually able to complete sentances. They were still ignorant, but no where as retarded or immature as these present ones. The 26%ers are pretty obscene...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:12 pmWhat did Clinton do? Him personally? Nothing. He let his agencies do their jobs.
What did his agencies do?
They caught the people responsible, put them on trial, and jailed them. He then increased police security and honestly, you can't dispute his record here in America after that -- not a single attack for 8 years. They had to wait until AFTER Clinton was out of office.
Al Queda attacked two American embassies in Africa -- in their home turf. Well, they didn't want us there...that's the downside of entangling ourselves in foreign affairs, something our founding fathers warned us against.
And the U.S.S. Cole? Where was that? In Yemen. Again, in a foreign port. Again, they don't want us over there. So, again, this is the consequence of foreign entanglement. What did Clinton do? Again. Nothing. He left office less than three months later. Again, agencies initially under his command did the work, with the CIA using a missile-equipped drone to visit vengeance (and possibly justice) to one of the accused bombers. The rest were tried in Yemeni courts and were jailed (with two being sentenced to death). Unfortunately, many of them were broken free of their inprisionment by AlQueda agents.
The first case was handled efficiently by Clinton's administration. The second one? 3 months is really not enough time for Clinton's administration to do anything about it, and if we go beyond it, it's on your boy's shoulders, isn't it?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:12 pmreally DRxJ? that is why we had so many Muslim terrorist attacks while he was in office, eh?
Comment by Conservatdump— June 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Let's see... and by that logic, how many Islamo-facial-Stalinistic-Leningrad-Nazism terrorist attacks occured after 9/11?
I'll give you a few hints: Bali, Spain, England. Not to mention Iraq (every single friggin' day)
So by your logic, Bush is to blame for all this non US soil attacks, correct?
Glad we could clear that up!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:13 pmSo, what was Clinton doing in the 1990s when Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were planning 9/11???? where we invading Iraq, Afghanistan???? anyone, anyone please?????
Comment by Conservatron
Finding, arresting, trying, convicting and imprisoning the terrorists responsible for the first attack on the WTC, among other things. Why is it that you wingnuts always conveniently forget that?
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
really? so you call arresting the terrorists and giving them a slap on the wrist is going with all the might of the USA against the terrorists, eh?
so that is why Bin Laden arrested and convicted bin Laden....right? and he arrested and convicted all Al Qaeda members and Al Qaeda ceased to exist in the 1990s, right?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pmwhile your Conservative husband is working and paying for your toenails, your cabana boy and the rest of your excesive living, I am talking to you.
Comment by John Sacks
My husband is a liberal, I work for him. And we provide union benefits to our employees asswipe. what have you contributed lately. And I worked from 6 am to 11 am before I even posted idiot.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pmshane, shane, shane, I don't thing the little struggling SAG member who want's a soap box to pontificate from is who we are talking about.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pmEver notice how all these f*cknit right wing lunatics come at the same time and go at the same time? Either it's a kindergarten nap time they're all escaping from or there are one or two of these losers who have identity problems and need to stick up for themselves.
They are all so pointless. Don't even bother to entertain them with reason...they have no ability to do so.
Don't feed the trolls...they are like gremlins and water!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pm"Doesn’t change the fact that the bee hive must go if you want to live in peace in your backyard.
Comment by John Sacks"
You might want to stop poking the bee hive with sticks John. Then you could live in harmony with the bees. But when you keep poking them, they just get mad at you, and then you think you need to kill them. It appears that is your solution, kill them all.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:15 pmYou have made some hurtful comments in last 15min or so, mean-spirited comments designed solely to hurt.
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
Piss off hypocrite.
Get the hint - we don't like your kind. Go haunt some conservative blog instead if you want to be adored.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:15 pmREAD
Comment by Johnny Swank — June 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Watch the videos for empirical evidence of MuslimShiteaters.
Then you can look in the mirror for empirical evidence of Islamo-Stalinists, as defined numerous times.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:15 pmGiven the 1500+ year history of radical Islam, the only true solution (which is not practical nor possible) is to kill them all.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:16 pmWow John Sacks(of $hit)
You really now how to impress the women, especially regarding their anatomy.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:16 pmCan you teach me to be as smooth as a mutha f*ker like you??
(see, I'm learning)
You can play dumb all you want. But the truth is, everyone KNOWS what an Islamo-Stalinist is, everyone KNOWS what an Islamo-Fascist is.
Your just making up words because you have no argument.
Comment by Mr. President
So you make up words, spew them to death, and then accuse others of making up words. Did you have a stroke or something, new meds like antidepressents maybe because you are really lame lately. Trying to get that Tourette's under control?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:16 pmDivorce rates computed by the Associated Press data supplied by the U.S. Census Bureau and the National Center for Health show:
Religion % have been divorced
June 29th, 2007 at 3:17 pmJews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%
and I bet your Cabana boy is probably Gay but willing to eat that nasty snatch of yours because he is illegal and you threaten to turn him in.
Comment by John Sacks
What happened to that high road Sacksashit? You see it was all bullcrap because you started this confrontational shit right at the beginning. Nice try at deflection, not.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:18 pmThat's because Atheists/Agnostics tend to live together rather than marry.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:18 pmshane, I was just responding to your feminazi ranting and attacks on me. Get a pocket rocket, might ease your stress a little.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:19 pm"Recruitment to the democratic party"? It's time for a wake up call to you Islamo-Stallanist loving lefties and to those who are listening to their rhetoric. Go to http://www.michaelsavage.com and watch what these fun loving muslims do to Americans and want to you and your children if they get the chance. I dare you to watch. Instead of putting a bullet in their heads,they saw it off and hold it high and proud in the name of Alah. The mainstream media and the democratic party dont want you to see this. We are not ready or capable to view this they say. They don't want us to view this because it shows our true enemy and why we are fighting them. I dare you to watch it if you have any doubt about who our enemies are and what they believe is justice. But you wont,because you are cowards.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:19 pmSo, what was Clinton doing in the 1990s when Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were planning 9/11???? where we invading Iraq, Afghanistan???? anyone, anyone please?????
Comment by Conservatron
Explaining his bl*wjob to the Republican Congress. Because you Republicans know how to beat a dead horse like nobody else.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:21 pmComment by Johnny Swank — June 29, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Don't forget to tell them that they have to scroll down a bit.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:21 pmThat’s because Atheists/Agnostics tend to live together rather than marry.
Comment by John Sacks 'o $hit — June 29, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
BZZZZZZZZZ! WRONGO!
Most of my Christo-Facio-Mandibular friends "shacked" up before marriage (and they're Republicans). And not always to each other
June 29th, 2007 at 3:21 pmSo DC fell off the curve a little since the last time I checked….â€Georgia had the lowest overall graduation rate in the nation with 54% of students graduating, followed by Nevada, Florida, and Washington, D.C. “
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Big of you to acknowledge the three red states that are worse off than DC.
Though, because DC does not have representation in Congress, it does have a large disadvantage. It's also a poor area where there just isn't money for school systems as there are in actual states...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:22 pm"Actually, I come here to validate the facts that most liberals cannot debate, nor communicate....John Sacks"
Spewing right wing talking points is your way of "validating facts". Sorry John, doesn't work here. If you want to debate something in a respectful manner, than most people here are more than happy to debate you. The problem is that all we get here are trolls like you who come here to push the right-wing talking points and rarely do they make much sense. You don't seem to be as bad, you are just a bigoted, selfish and heartless jerk.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:22 pmI see that melodramatic 'shane' decided to ignore my posting on #175.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:22 pmwell, he did get your attention, right? so mission accomplished on his side.
shane, what a poor fool.
Comment by Conservatron
Yes he did, aren't I kind? I'm showing him all the respect his mother does while she's out picketing for abortion rights.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:23 pmRepublicans know how to beat a dead horse like nobody else.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
So that explains what Rush and all his cronies do after ingesting the "little blue pill"!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:23 pmsince you are inflicting pain & suffering on my citizens so I will render the same on your citizenry. Its really quite simple isnt it ?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pm219 - I am not saying they didn't - but they ultimately got married. The Athiest/Agnostic types tend to not follow religious institutions of which marriage is - and therefor their rates are skewed because they don't marry at nearly the same rate as religious types.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pmJohn Sacks, like his idol Ann Coulter, have only hate and insults to make their points, which leads a reasonable person to see the errors of the conservative ways, and embrace a progressive ideology. Thank you for your support.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pmComment by katie
There are a good number of left-wing talking points, too. Those absolutely exist.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pm219 - 3 out of the top 4 states are also Red states.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pmEVERYONE who wasn't ALREADY a Bush azz-kisser KNEW that ATTACKING IRAQ would cause an INCREASE in terrorism.
The CIA even TOLD Bush so...
I was for getting Osama, the MASTERMIND OF 9/11 and still AM...
For some reason (OIL WHOREBAGS, wink, wink...),
Bush is NOT...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:25 pmHere’s a note: I don’t care to hear you project any further. How are you giving your employees “pensions†and “insurance†when you’re consumed before a computer? I wonder what the formula would be.
And cease the stalking of those on the count of political dissent, that would be most appropriate. You’re only reinforcing the negative attributes of your party by doing so.
Comment by CT V_1
I'm consumed in front of a computer? But my mother's not paying my rent is she?
And I don't have a "party" I'm a registered independent. But you talking about "negative atributes" is just precious, really.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:26 pm>Comment by Jeremy
>I shouldn’t have asked, Jeremy. Now you’re late for your shift at
>Burger King. I know it must take up a lot of up your time to post
Well, what do we have here. A _personal_ attack. Weren't you just railing about how we do too many personal attacks? Not only that, but you didn't even get my profession right. Hint, I do NOT work at Burger King. Might need to check the batteries on your new crystal ball. It seems to be as screwed up as your last one.
>useless propaganda.
What you disagree with but can't disprove you call propaganda. If you actually debated honestly and provided evidence and support for your claims and your counterclaims, you'd be a respectful conservative blog member of Think Progress, trying to offer what you think is a counterpoint (though you might find us an unsympathetic audience). At least I could respect you. But you don't. You call names, bully, and act like a testosterone crazed teenaged boy who can't win fairly so he tries to poison the debate.
The bottom line: Your master's approach has weakened national security. We've got the documentation to show it. You don't have *any* documentation to the alternative (let alone reputable documentation). Therefore, in any reasonable debate, you lose. So sad, try again.
Now for my personal attack. I've seen people in the usenet newsgroup alt.startrek.vs.starwars who are better debaters than you are. And THAT...is an insult.
Thanks anyways.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 29, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
June 29th, 2007 at 3:27 pmNote to 53 year-old woman: grow up.
Comment by CT V_1
You first.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:27 pm53?? Then she should damn well understand the term dirty snatch.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:28 pmCOMPTROLLER has NEVER responded to this:
So, tell us Nazi Islamo TERRORIST azzhole-licker of TRAITOR Bush the COXUCKER punk Saudi OIL WHOREBAG:
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission??
i.e. SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE USA??
Come on, Nazi azzhole-licker, BRING IT ON.
Because ALL of YOUR barbs directed toward ME mean that YOU can’t be taken seriously, especially since you support WAR CRIMINALS.
The REAL WAR CRIMINALS are the Bushes, and they and YOU will burn in hell for ETERNITY.
And Bush and Cheney are COXUCKER punk TRAITORS to the USA..
BURN!
SIZZLE!
FRY!
TOAST!
ROAST!
SINGE!
Have a nice day!!!
See you in hell Nazi azzhole-licker (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
June 29th, 2007 at 3:30 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COWARDLY AWOL TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo, Inc.)
I shouldn’t have asked, Jeremy. Now you’re late for your shift at Burger King. I know it must take up a lot of up your time to post useless propaganda.
Thanks anyways.
Comment by CT V_1 — June 29, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
June 29th, 2007 at 3:30 pmHEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
(thanks for bring this to my attention Jeremy)
You first.
Comment by shane
Heh. Trust me, you could use the quick restraint. I'll allow you to go first.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:30 pmGiven the 1500+ year history of radical Islam, the only true solution (which is not practical nor possible) is to kill them all.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
And perhaps because that's how they feel about Christians, you'll all do the rest of a favor and call a truce?
Jesus Christ, you people are evil, vengeful and just plain paranoid.
That’s because Atheists/Agnostics tend to live together rather than marry.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
You've proven that you can use the Google to get accurate information, why don't you go and do that and correct yourself again?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:30 pm235 - Spoken like a true paranoid meth adict looking for his next fix.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:31 pmI went to Michael Weiner's site...you expect some kind of truth there???
June 29th, 2007 at 3:31 pmHere are the headlines:
"Savage Defeats Amnesty Bill" He's so powerful!
" Immigration Bill Dead! Kennedy, Reid Stopped" Presumably stopped by savage...he forgot to mention Bush being stopped.
Do you really expect to find truthful/factual information there?"
Comment by John BaggySack — June 29, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Whooo hoooo! Good one! You are the master of comedy and snappy comebacks!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:31 pmReally. have you thought about An Evening At The Improv? You're a natural!
238 - Christians are not going around blowing themselves up to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:32 pmNow for my personal attack. I’ve seen people in the usenet newsgroup alt.startrek.vs.starwars who are better debaters than you are. And THAT…is an insult.
Comment by Jeremy
That really was mean. You probably made him cry.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:32 pmshane: you do not speak for Zooey.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:32 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Your postings, Mr. BGTH, are like boldened/capitalized rhetorical questions -they aren't meant to be answered.
You'll need to read the proper manual on how to be taken seriously.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:33 pmMr. President: do not give up the good fight.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:33 pmChristians are not going around blowing themselves up to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
Comment by John No Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
No, but there are quite a few Republican Christians that are going around blowing anyone on the Right who agrees with them!
HEH
June 29th, 2007 at 3:34 pmshane: you do not speak for Zooey.
Comment by TrollsForZooey
I can verify from Zooey's own lips that Shane is about three billion miles closer to being able to speak for her than you are, troll.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:35 pm247 - made my point.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:35 pmChristians are not going around blowing themselves up to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:36 pmNo, they use smart bombs and proxies to do their killing for them. By the hundreds of thousands.
#247: Whatever. We're not stalking, we're just fans.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:37 pm247 - made my point.
Comment by John Socks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Pray tell, how did gummitch make your point?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:37 pmChristians are not going around blowing themselves up to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
Yes they are! They have been for centuries. I posted the Crusades, Inquisition and Salem WitchTrials to start you off... You ready for more? Okay...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:38 pmWe are free!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:38 pmTesting
June 29th, 2007 at 3:38 pmYou have made some hurtful comments in last 15min or so, mean-spirited comments designed solely to hurt.
Comment by Mr. President
I say:
Islamo-Stalinism: synthesis of the most retarded aspects of the Islam-loving Left and Stalinism.
The Joker says:
Islamo-Stalinist means a Leftist like yourself who’s an apologist for Muslims and makes every excuse for them.
Also known as a Dhimmi.
Comment by Mr. President
Gee I wonder who started it. Calling Americans names like this aren't designed to be hurtful? If you can't stand the heat then get the hell out of here. Nobody wants to hear you whining.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:38 pmreally DRxJ? that is why we had so many Muslim terrorist attacks while he was in office, eh?
Comment by Conservatdump— June 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Let’s see… and by that logic, how many Islamo-facial-Stalinistic-Leningrad-Nazism terrorist attacks occured after 9/11?
I’ll give you a few hints: Bali, Spain, England. Not to mention Iraq (every single friggin’ day)
So by your logic, Bush is to blame for all this non US soil attacks, correct?
Glad we could clear that up!
Comment by DRxJ — June 29, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
retard, after 9/11 the USA finally got into the war that bin Laden declared ont he USA back during your god's Presidency. it was in 1996 that Bin Laden declared war on the USA. Tell me, what did Clinton do?
It is obvious that during wars there are going to be more attacks than during a supposed peace, right?
the enemy is going to lash out against you more when you grow a pair of balls and try to destroy it, right? duh, duh, duh....
Bush went after Al Qaeda and is going full force to destroy them, that is why there are more attacks.
Clinton was too busy doing interns and cheating on his family to take care of our country. Bin Laden loved it when Clinton was in office, he got to plan 9/11 under Clinton and he called the USA a paper tiger under Clinton.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:40 pmPray tell, how did gummitch make your point?
Comment by DRxJ — June 29, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
His numbering is off, it happens.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:40 pmYou say it, shane...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:40 pmTesting,what is null?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:40 pm253 - So you think that something that happened 1000 years ago gives moral equivilency to something happening in the present? What a dope. BTW, the first Crusades were defensive in that Islamic forces had invaded Europe and had to be repelled - basically, they started it first.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:41 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Your postings, Mr. BGTH, are like boldened/capitalized rhetorical questions -they aren’t meant to be answered.
You’ll need to read the proper manual on how to be taken seriously.
Comment by CT V_
Funny, but the LAST TIME I posted the question (#108),
it WASN'T in caps OR bold.
You must be SCARED to be asked the question that NONE of you azzhole-lickers of the ISLAMOTerrorist Bush can answer.
Which is why TRAITOR Bush the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG
couldn't have ANYONE at his "town hall" (PROPAGANDA) meetings who wouldn't sign a LOYALTY OATH.
TRAITOR Bush the MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL and AWOL coward COXUCKER punk ISLAMOTerrorist is a TRAITOR to the USA...
Now, WHY didn't TRAITORS Bush and Cheney TESTIFY UNDER OATH about 9/11???
Because THEY are Saudi OIL WHOREBAG TRAITORS to the USA??
Yup....
June 29th, 2007 at 3:42 pm262 - that must be some bad meth you are taking.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:43 pm253 - So you think that something that happened 1000 years ago gives moral equivilency to something happening in the present? What a dope. BTW, the first Crusades were defensive in that Islamic forces had invaded Europe and had to be repelled - basically, they started it first.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Due to one of TP's frequent malfunctions, your numbering is off.
Instead of referencing "253" try this:
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
June 29th, 2007 at 3:43 pmCasualties from the Iraq Occupation (perpetrated by Christians in the White House):
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
June 29th, 2007 at 3:43 pmLeave it to a liberal blog to have many malfunctions.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:44 pmshane, shane, shane, I don’t thing the little struggling SAG member who want’s a soap box to pontificate from is who we are talking about.
Comment by John Sacks
And my point was 99.9% of them struggled for years before they made any money. And now you think they shouldn't. Keep up Skippy. Look up IMDB and see how many years they each did little tiny projects before they made any money.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:44 pmno more null
June 29th, 2007 at 3:44 pmGiven that the US is like 85% Christian - you can make that statement about anything that originates from here.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:45 pmComment by CT V_1
"I’m consumed in front of a computer? But my mother’s not paying my rent is she?"
Another talking point, of course, full of projection. Actually, my mother pays none of my college/living expenses. Piss in the toilet next time, freak. Regardless, my finances are none of your intruding liberal business. Panzy.
"And I don’t have a “party†I’m a registered independent. But you talking about “negative atributes†is just precious, really."
Actually, claiming to be a "registered independent" is a really old adage. I can easily tell by your loony assertions, so that's all I need. Again, I don't stalk anybody in here and use filthy language to the extent that you do, so you truly have no room to talk over me. People like you represent everything that is wrong with debate. You'll need to look at serious self-improvement before railing on anyone else, since there's nothing to learn from you, as you are clearly a bad example of much.
Obviously, you haven't been paying your rent.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:45 pm262 - that must be some bad meth you are taking.
Comment by John Sacks
Yup, directing to your OWN POST (#262).
It must BE bad meth...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:46 pmshane - I really don't give a rat's ass about anyone in Hollywood.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:46 pmComment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Yup. Those MuslimShiteaters (tm) sure do like to kill each other...
Almost as much as they like to eat shit!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:47 pmSo you think that something that happened 1000 years ago gives moral equivilency to something happening in the present?
Yes... It establishes precident for what is occuring today.
What a dope.
Yes, you are.
BTW, the first Crusades were defensive in that Islamic forces had invaded Europe and had to be repelled - basically, they started it first.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
They started it first? What are you in third grade? Sheesh.
No, they didn't start it. Stop lying. You think two centuries of mass murder is an appropriate and acceptable response over a property dispute? Glad I'm not your neighbor...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:47 pmYeah right Bush is going after his buddies in Al Qaeda. He's gonna smoke 'em out, they will have no here to run, no here to hide.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:47 pmGeorge Bush on Osama. "I really don't think about him"
The Bush definition of a terrorist:
Somebody that God mistakenly put where My oil is.
Yup. Those MuslimShiteaters ™ sure do like to kill each other…
Almost as much as they like to eat shit!!!
Since Bush is a Saudi OIL WHOREBAG, I AGREE!!!
He DOES like to eat Saudi Muslim shit!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pmshane, I was just responding to your feminazi ranting and attacks on me. Get a pocket rocket, might ease your stress a little.
Comment by John Sacks
Don't need it. I'm married to a real man. Only the women you're with need "pocket rockets" and yes you should take that personally.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pmafter 9/11 the USA finally got into the war that bin Laden declared ont he USA back during your god’s Presidency
Comment by Conservadull — June 29, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
You know, it's posts like these that clear up your arguments.
WTF are you getting at, Captain Kirk?
Let's see.
Terrorist attacks under Clinton: Bad
Terrorist attacks under Bush: Good
Damn those Islamo-facial-paris_hiltonistics!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pmJohn Sacks Comment #208: I am calling you out as a narrow minded, bigoted coward. I see you could not repond to my previous comment upon you. I now see in you suggest that all Muslims deserve to die. Is that not the same sort of hate-filled belief that you accuse them of having towards Christians. Christianity and all religions have shown their violent side in the name of their religion. Our progress as a people comes from the ability to grow and temper the hatred.
1. Sacks: Where is your evidence that every single member of the Muslim religion is so violent that each one deserves to die? Show the evidence or admit that you are nothing more than a bigoted, narrow minded coward?
2. Prove that there never has been a violent section of Christianity that has wrongfully oppressed or killed others. I want to see your sources. If you are unable to do so, then admit that you are a simple minded fool.
I am sick and tire of your type. You are the greatest danger to the security of this country. I do not need to blame the United States for the violence in the world. However, I can blame little, panty wasted, pant wetting cowards like you for high jacking the government and creating serious conditions as opposed to effectively responding to a threat. Y
June 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pmLeave it to a liberal blog to have many malfunctions.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
There are really only three of you malfunctions here - it's the posting under multiple aliases that makes you think there are more of you...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pm253 - So you think that something that happened 1000 years ago gives moral equivilency to something happening in the present? What a dope. BTW, the first Crusades were defensive in that Islamic forces had invaded Europe and had to be repelled - basically, they started it first.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
EXACTLY!!! it was the muslims who started the crusades by invading European lands. Leave it to the Liberals and the uneducated to blame the crusades on Christianity.
If Muslims wouldn't have started invading European land and killing Europeans guess what.......the Crusades would have never happened.
but we all know that the left wing in America loves to be a Muslim terrorist apologists. They will defend Islam at any cost, but they have no problem bashing and lying about Christianity.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pmComment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
Yes, actually.
THEY DID START IT!!!
Or haven't you heard about the Moors who invaded Spain and the general invasion of Saracens in Europe... BEFORE THE CRUSADES?!?!?!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:50 pmYou reap what you sow.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI bet he is a real man, probably does anything you say so you want beat the shit out of him.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:50 pmThe good god-fearing Christians who came to this country knew how to bring Christ to the Native Americans.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:51 pmGiven that the US is like 85% Christian - you can make that statement about anything that originates from here.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
It's only 71% who CLAIM to be Christian, but actually just 35% who are active Christians (those who attend church and follow its rules).
It's also on the decline here in the U.S., as more and more people give up religion entirely each year.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:51 pm253 - So you think that something that happened 1000 years ago gives moral equivilency to something happening in the present? What a dope. BTW, the first Crusades were defensive in that Islamic forces had invaded Europe and had to be repelled - basically, they started it first.
Comment by John Sacks
What are you, 12? "They started it! Wah!"
Get a copy of Tyerman's God's War: A New History of the Crusades, and when you've plowed through the 1000+ pages, you might have some clue as to what the Crusades actually were, rather than your wingnut fantasy.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:51 pmYou reap what you sow.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — June 29, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
EXACTLY!!! You mess with America, you will pay the price!
Muslims have been for centurites carrying out wars against anyone and everyone that disagrees with them. It is about time that Westerns fought back and fought back hard.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:52 pmBasically the Eastern Othodox Church feared the worst as Islam was enslaving Christians in Eastern Europe and asked the Pope in Rome for help. The armies were raised and the war began - granted they decided to go to the Holy Lands to take back what the muslims had taken, but that was just a responsse to Islamic invasions in Europe.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:52 pmRemember when Bush put his foot in his mouth and called our war a crusade. They (the Crusades) are still happening.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:53 pmGiven that the US is like 85% Christian - you can make that statement about anything that originates from here.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
It’s only 71% who CLAIM to be Christian, but actually just 35% who are active Christians (those who attend church and follow its rules).
It’s also on the decline here in the U.S., as more and more people give up religion entirely each year.
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Where you get your statistics, from fantasy land? from the voices in your head? or was it the intepretation you made of all the nasty farting that you do?
get a clue kid. and an education while you are it.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:53 pm53?? Then she should damn well understand the term dirty snatch.
Comment by John Sacks
I looked it up in the dictionary and they had Ann Coulter's picture. Imagine that.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:53 pmYeah right Bush is going after his buddies in Al Qaeda. He’s gonna smoke ‘em out, they will have no here to run, no here to hide.
George Bush on Osama. “I really don’t think about himâ€
EXACTLY.
Bushes and the Bin Ladens were BUSINESS PARTNERS since 1974.
Bin Ladens FUNDED Bush's OIL COMPANY FAILURES.
Saleem Bin Laden was with Bush 41 at Ritz Carlton in DC on 9/11.
The Saudi prince WAR PROFITEER is nicknamed "Bandar Bush" by the Bushes...
Bush is a Saudi OIL WHOREBAG and an ISLAMOTerrorist COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:53 pm"Weren’t you just railing about how we do too many personal attacks?"
Actually, Jeremy, I think I'm railing more against "troll" stalking more than "personal attacks", especially to the credit of "trolls" who don't single out anyone specifically, they just let their general views be known in response to a particular topic. I don't actually think you work at Burger king, so it's more of a joke rather than an full-fledged attack.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:54 pmSummary of Religious Bodies in the United States*
Christian 84.7%
Independent 28.2%
Protestant 23.2%
Roman Catholic 20.8%
Unaffiliated 15.8%
Marginal 3.6%
Orthodox 2.1%
Anglican 0.9%
Double-affiliated [ 9.9%]
Nonreligious 9.0%
Jewish 2.0%
Muslims 1.5%
Buddhist 0.9%
Atheist 0.4%
Hindu 0.4%
New-Religions 0.3%
Baha'i 0.3%
Ethnoreligions 0.2%
Sikh 0.1%
Spiritist 0.1%
*Source: World Christian Encyclopedia, 2001, Oxford University Press. Vol 1: p 772
Truth not your forte unbelievable, eh?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThe Mahometians didn't call it "The Crusades" but they were the ones who invaded Europe.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:54 pmActually I imagine something even worse than Ann Coulter when I see your posts (I am not an Ann Coulter fan so we are in agreement there).
June 29th, 2007 at 3:55 pmshane: you do not speak for Zooey.
Comment by TrollsForZooey
Well she doesn't talk to losers so you'll never hear it from her directly. Poor bastard.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:55 pmSo I was off by .03% - sorry about that.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:56 pmTHEY DID START IT!!!
Damn you're insane...
Or haven’t you heard about the Moors who invaded Spain and the general invasion of Saracens in Europe… BEFORE THE CRUSADES?!?!?!
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
Except that it wasn't a defense against the small number of aggressors... The church brutalized innocent people instead. NOT the same thing as defensing yourself.
Jesus you people are violent...
June 29th, 2007 at 3:56 pmRemember when Bush put his foot in his mouth and called our war a crusade. They (the Crusades) are still happening.
Comment by funky p — June 29, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Good. There are still MuslimShiteaters (tm) doing Jihad shit.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:56 pmBasically the Eastern Othodox Church feared the worst as Islam was enslaving Christians in Eastern Europe and asked the Pope in Rome for help. The armies were raised and the war began - granted they decided to go to the Holy Lands to take back what the muslims had taken, but that was just a responsse to Islamic invasions in Europe.
Comment by John Sacks
Wrong. And self-contradictory. And just as simplistic as one would expect.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:56 pmWhat is the difference between Athiest and Non-Religious?
June 29th, 2007 at 3:57 pmActually I imagine something even worse than Ann Coulter when I see your posts
Comment by John Sacks W/Haggard — June 29, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Dude! Your wit is on today! You are DA MAN!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:58 pmHow do you keep coming up with these?
I humbly beg, ol' wise one, teach me your comedy genius
Yea, Christians are brutal - I remember that time that Jerry Faldwell donned a black ski mask and chopped off Sam Donaldson's head on the Internet.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:58 pm#295
June 29th, 2007 at 3:58 pmYour numbers in the first group add up to more than 100%?
Good. There are still MuslimShiteaters â„¢ doing Jihad shit.
Comment by Mr. President
Since Bush is a Saudi OIL WHOREBAG, I AGREE!!!
He DOES like to eat Saudi Muslim shit!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 3:58 pmBasically the Eastern Othodox Church feared the worst as Islam was enslaving Christians in Eastern Europe and asked the Pope in Rome for help. The armies were raised and the war began - granted they decided to go to the Holy Lands to take back what the muslims had taken, but that was just a responsse to Islamic invasions in Europe.
Comment by John Sacks
Wrong. And self-contradictory. And just as simplistic as one would expect.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
gummitch, you love to claim that everyone is wrong, so why don't you give us your evidence, eh?
the fact is that if Muslims would not have invaded and conquered Jerusalem, guess what.......The Crusades would have never occurred.
get a clue son, for all the reading you claim you do you are quite ignorant.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:59 pm262. 262 - that must be some bad meth you are taking.
Comment by John Sacks
You're talking to yourself Sybil. How about taking that thorazine now.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:59 pmSTILL no response from the supporters of the WAR CRIMINAL Bush the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG:
Now, WHY didn’t TRAITORS Bush and Cheney TESTIFY UNDER OATH about 9/11???
Because THEY are Saudi OIL WHOREBAG TRAITORS to the USA??
Yup….
June 29th, 2007 at 3:59 pmOh yea, and the torture chambors in the Methodist Church where they took Baptists and cut their eye's out and drilled holes into their hands and burned their backs with blow torches - brutal people.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:00 pmComment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Look, unbelievable, you clearly don't know your history. I'm not going to rub that in your face.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:00 pm#295
Your numbers in the first group add up to more than 100%?
Comment by funky p — June 29, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
that's because it didn't post well. Christianity breaks down into the denominations below it....make sense?
Roman Catholics, Protestants, etc are all Christians....
June 29th, 2007 at 4:00 pmI see they found more cars with bombs in London - yep, this is definately a government conspiracy.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:01 pmWhere you get your statistics, from fantasy land? from the voices in your head? or was it the intepretation you made of all the nasty farting that you do?
I know you loathe facts and actually looking stuff up, but from religious websites, actually:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
get a clue kid. and an education while you are it.
Comment by Conservatron — June 29, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
I'm the teacher... You are not. There IS a reason.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:01 pmSTILL no response from the supporters of the WAR CRIMINAL Bush the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG:
Now, WHY didn’t TRAITORS Bush and Cheney TESTIFY UNDER OATH about 9/11???
Because THEY are Saudi OIL WHOREBAG TRAITORS to the USA??
Yup….
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
Why didn't Clinton? why did Clinton take with him Sandy Berger when he spoke with the 9/11 commission? why did Clinton have Sandy Berger steal top secret documents from the National Archieve that had to do with 9/11?
I am sure you are as curious about these questions as the ones you ask about Bush and Cheney, right?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:01 pmDue to one of TP’s frequent malfunctions, your numbering is off.
Instead of referencing “253″ try this:
Comment by Mr. President
What are you, the "Troll Supervisor"? Impressive, what did you do to get the promotion, something Sacksashit is talking about no doubt. Please clean up after yourself Mr. Supervisor.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:02 pmOh yea, and the torture chambors in the Methodist Church where they took Baptists and cut their eye’s out and drilled holes into their hands and burned their backs with blow torches - brutal people.
Comment by John Sacks W/Foley — June 29, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
You pretty much just summed up the Inquistion!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:02 pmthank you for proving that Christians were just as evil and murderous as the Islamo-Facist-Syphilis terrorists!
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
You're wrong gumbo.
You Lefties honestly don't know shit about The Crusades, do you?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:02 pmComment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Look, unbelievable, you clearly don’t know your history. I’m not going to rub that in your face.
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Like most Liberal, poor unbelievable is an ingnorant human being who makes up history to fit her believe system. Don't you know...
history tends to have a conservative bias. Go figure.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pmDo Muslim shiteaters take credit for letting over 100 members of the Bin Laden family fly out of the U.S. after 9/11 when all other flights were grounded.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pmAnd who is that having lunch at the Ritz Carlton Hotel as 9/11 is going down. Why, it' G.H.W. Bush with his good friend Salim Bin Laden.
Muslim shiteater indeed!
I've seen these guys before - http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm - they are a liberal think tank in Canada or something like that. They have their own spin so the real numbers are probably between their's and the one's above. Never the less it is overwhelming.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pmNearly half of Americans are not sure God exists, according to a poll that also found divisions among the public on whether God is male or female or whether God has a human form and has control over events.
The survey conducted by Harris Poll found that 42 percent of US adults are not "absolutely certain" there is a God compared to 34 percent who felt that way when asked the same question three years ago.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=061031235233.s0l4o4wy&show_article=1
June 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pmgummitch, you love to claim that everyone is wrong, so why don’t you give us your evidence, eh?
the fact is that if Muslims would not have invaded and conquered Jerusalem, guess what…….The Crusades would have never occurred.
get a clue son, for all the reading you claim you do you are quite ignorant.
Comment by Conservatron
One of the problems is that trolls like you demand to have everything reduced to a simplistic explanation that you can then dismiss without evidence. It's clear that, in this particular case, you have done no reading at all and are merely spouting the wingnut talking points justifying your bigotry.
I suggested a place to start, with 1000 pages of "evidence". If you haven't the cojones to challenge your own preconceptions by actually reading a book, you could at least stop accusing others who have done the research of ignorance.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pmThe difference is that the Christians modernized and moved away from their puritanical ways wher Islam has not. If you can't see the difference then you truly are narrowminded and a lemming of the left - which by definition does make you a teacher.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:05 pmLike most Liberal, poor unbelievable is an ingnorant human being who makes up history to fit her believe system. Don’t you know
Comment by Conservaliterate — June 29, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Well, at least the ignorant unbelievable can spell, as well as use correct punctuation and sentence structure!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:06 pm*Source: World Christian Encyclopedia, 2001, Oxford University Press. Vol 1: p 772
Not exactly an unbiased source - plus it's atleast 6 years old (they have to gather the information prior to printing it).
Truth not your forte unbelievable, eh?
Comment by Conservatron — June 29, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
I love the truth... when you gonna provide some?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:06 pmAnother talking point, of course, full of projection. Actually, my mother pays none of my college/living expenses. Piss in the toilet next time, freak. Regardless, my finances are none of your intruding liberal business. Panzy
Comment by CT V_1
Then who's paying your expenses. The taxpayer. Obviously you have a mental disability so I guess that's how you got on the dole. Since I suspect we're all paying your tuition it is our business, you as a neocon should understand that concept.
If you were paying your own tuition you'd have a job during the summer. If this is your job than we're paying you twice. But really how much can tuition at Regent College cost. I't not like they use books or anything.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:07 pmYou Lefties honestly don’t know shit about The Crusades, do you?
Comment by Mr. President
Citations, please. If all you can do is repeat the same ignorant comment over and over, all you do is reinforce the fact that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:07 pmI see they found more cars with bombs in London - yep, this is definately a government conspiracy
WTF? Wouldn't just one bomb make it more likely to be a government conspiracy? Jesus you people are nuts,.
More bombs makes it just more likely that it really is an islamofascist attack.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:08 pmWhat is the difference between Athiest and Non-Religious?
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
Balls.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:08 pmMaybe he's an illegal, colleges and universities love to give our money to the illegals for free education.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:08 pmBalls? Doesn't answer the question. By definition of not being non-religious does that make Athiesm a Religion? By definition of religion and the fanaticsm of Athiests I would say yes.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI had a sarcastic moment - I guess you didn't get it. Sorry.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmOh yea, and the torture chambors in the Methodist Church where they took Baptists and cut their eye’s out and drilled holes into their hands and burned their backs with blow torches - brutal people.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Who do you think invented medieval torture devices? Yep - CHRISTIANS! For torturing non-Christians.
Pretty funny that you think you're being sarcastic, but you are actually right...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmshane - I really don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone in Hollywood.
Comment by John Sacks
Yes you do because only NEOCONS are allowed to make money in your bizzaro world. You started it remember, go back and look it up.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmComment by shane
Fine then, Shane.
Mr. President, you're hereby appointed as Dean of Trolls, Thinkprogress.org
Should you, Mr. President, or any fellow "trolls" under your direction object, now is the time to be heard.
YEAs?
NAYs?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:11 pmWhy didn’t Clinton? why did Clinton take with him Sandy Berger when he spoke with the 9/11 commission? why did Clinton have Sandy Berger steal top secret documents from the National Archieve that had to do with 9/11?
I am sure you are as curious about these questions as the ones you ask about Bush and Cheney, right?
Comment by Conservatron
Actually, Clinton DID give SWORN TESTIMONY. LIE #1 of yours exposed.
Sandy Berger was fined for his actions. Case CLOSED...
Don't LIKE it?? APPEAL!!
As far as Bush and Cheney go, they were and ARE the "president" and "vice president".
They DID NOT testify UNDER OATH, refusing to do so to a commission that they RESISTED FORMING FOR OVER A YEAR.
And them REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT their involvement with 9/11, the Bin Ladens, and the Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS (STILL financing Al Queda vs. the USA)
tells the REAL STORY.
They are Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS and ISLAMOTerrorist COXUCKER punk TRAITORS to the USA and EVERYTHING it EVER STOOD FOR...
See you in hell islamoterrorist-licker (cause I'LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
June 29th, 2007 at 4:11 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COWARDLY AWOL TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM--BushCrimeCo, Inc.)
not being non-religious
Comment by John Sacks W/Hot Intern Boys — June 29, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
double negative.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:12 pmnot being non religious equates to religious.
You've just asked if "by definition of religious does that make Athiesm a religion?
Doesn't make sense, does it?
None of you cowards have watched what and who our true enemies are. I don't agree with Savage,I was just using his link because it's the only place I have found to view them all in one place.You have to scroll down It is very disturbing viewing,but it does show who the enemy is. It's not America you cowards! It's easy to ignore your enemies when our leaders want absolute ignorance from it's people. And the majority here are ignorant ,self absorbed, talking points to whatever party affiliation they belong. It's so easy being ignorant,I envy you.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:12 pmLike most Liberal, poor unbelievable is an ingnorant human being who makes up history to fit her believe system. Don’t you know
Comment by Conservaliterate — June 29, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Well, at least the ignorant unbelievable can spell, as well as use correct punctuation and sentence structure!
Comment by DRxJ — June 29, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
it never fails, NEVER! when Liberals lose the debate they attack grammar and spelling.
retard, this is an impromtu blog, not a thesis paper, not a university paper, not a professional paper.
If I were writing to intelligent, smart, well educated individuals, I would worry about my grammar and spelling, kid.
nice to know you are but a pathetic copy of every Liberal I have ever run into.
You know one Liberal, you know them all.
sad for you kid, right?
oh wait, should I run this post through a grammar and spelling check.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:12 pmWhat is it with you Shane today? You're in such a foul mood.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:12 pmIslamic barbarians were cutting heads off and torturing long before the burning of people at the stake.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:12 pmYup. Those MuslimShiteaters ™ sure do like to kill each other…
Almost as much as they like to eat shit!!!
Comment by Mr. President
I sure am glad I'm the only one using hurtful language. Did it ever occur to you that there might be Muslims posting here. Just like you were Joooossss crazy yesterday. Or are you just too much of a TrollShiteater to care.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:12 pmLike most Liberal, poor unbelievable is an ingnorant human being who makes up history to fit her believe system. Don’t you know…
What you're allergic to history books now? Just go read one and you'll see that not only do I know the truth, but I'm not afraid of it...
Boo!
history tends to have a conservative bias. Go figure.
Comment by Conservatron — June 29, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Only with the violent Christian church
June 29th, 2007 at 4:14 pm"Christians modernized and moved away from their puritanical ways when Islam has not"
This single statement is full of errors, but let me just say that such modernization has made your lovable Christians more efficient at killing en masse. I guess that's less brutal than beheading (beheading very popular in the old testament). Moved away from puritanical ways?
Like with sex?
Like with gays?
Like with pedophilia?
Like with war?
Like with religious intolerance?
Oh, compassionate conservatives, accelerating our journey to meet our maker. Thanks Christians.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:14 pmI don't give a shit about Muslims either - given that none of their leaders are standing up in any major way to separate themselves from the terrorists.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:15 pmComment by shane
I have no mental disability, libetroll. And no taxpayer is funding my expenses. Again, hag, it is not any of your concern. You are an embarrasment to the left and an embarrasment in general. Stay out of my private affairs.
You have no power, you should have no discretion, either. You haven't earned it.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:15 pmgummitch, you love to claim that everyone is wrong, so why don’t you give us your evidence, eh?
the fact is that if Muslims would not have invaded and conquered Jerusalem, guess what…….The Crusades would have never occurred.
get a clue son, for all the reading you claim you do you are quite ignorant.
Comment by Conservatron
One of the problems is that trolls like you demand to have everything reduced to a simplistic explanation that you can then dismiss without evidence. It’s clear that, in this particular case, you have done no reading at all and are merely spouting the wingnut talking points justifying your bigotry.
I suggested a place to start, with 1000 pages of “evidenceâ€. If you haven’t the cojones to challenge your own preconceptions by actually reading a book, you could at least stop accusing others who have done the research of ignorance.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
So, your standard for a book being right is that it is 1000 pages of what YOU consider evidence? wow...in that case, you also believe in the Bible, right? which well over 1000 pages, right?
One question, my simpleton, did the Muslims invade Jerusalem before the Crusades started? yes or no would be nice, my simpleton. And we don't need 1000 pages, ok simpleton?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI’ve seen these guys before - http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm - they are a liberal think tank in Canada or something like that.
Wrong.
They have their own spin so the real numbers are probably between their’s and the one’s above. Never the less it is overwhelming.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Wrong again.
You just can't stand that Science is shining lights of knowledge upon the gaps in which your gods hide... and fewer and fewer people need them anymore to explain the cosmos.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:16 pmit never fails, NEVER! when Liberals lose the debate they attack grammar and spelling.
oh wait, should I run this post through a grammar and spelling check.
Comment by Conservapube— June 29, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Geez louise. don't get your panties in a bunch there, Captain Kirk.
You're the one who labeled unb as ignorant (actually ingorant)
If you can't stand the criticism, then by all means, yes, use grammar and spell check!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:16 pmOh, I see. A reverse 'don't feed the trolls' thing. I see the only thing that does is attract more trolls. And this is funny coming from a troll.
What, am I supposed to let you say whatever the hell you want without opening my mouth? Freedom of speech. You're free to mouth your tripe off, and I'm free to mouth off mine. :) Contrary to popular belief, it's not 'I'll say what I want and you STFU.'
You posted a question, I answered you. You didn't like my question so you 'accused' me of working for Burger King (and got it HORRIBLY wrong). Now, you go, "Oh, I didn't mean to say that..." and I call out bull. You meant exactly what you said.
Make personal attacks where none are offered, insist that others do as you say and not as you do, and weasel out when you're caught by your own words. You emulate your master faithfully.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:17 pmCitations, please. If all you can do is repeat the same ignorant comment over and over, all you do is reinforce the fact that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Oh, Okay. Let me go look through some books for you.
Come on, gumby!
Use a little logic.
Islam started in Saudi Arabia, and the Mahometians just appeared in Jerus*lem?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I thought you were smarter than that.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:18 pmI bet he is a real man, probably does anything you say so you want beat the shit out of him.
Comment by John Sacks
Yeah, that's my definition of a real man, I'm beating the shit out of you and you're no MAN. You couldn't get lucky in a woman's prison with a fistful of pardons you pathetic, impotent, Rove ballwasher.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:18 pmI work FOR him, you're not even the boss of your own intellect, I guess that's why you don't understand the concept of working for him.
unbelievable - not wrong. There are all kinds of studies on this issue and I beleive that the ones with a conservative leaning go high with their numbers and the ones with a libreral leaning go low with their numbers and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:18 pmThe difference is that the Christians modernized and moved away from their puritanical ways wher Islam has not. If you can’t see the difference then you truly are narrowminded and a lemming of the left - which by definition does make you a teacher.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
No they haven't. See Iraq.
I actually am a teacher - high school. Why I have a hard time explain stuff at your elementary mindset...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:18 pm“Christians modernized and moved away from their puritanical ways when Islam has notâ€
This single statement is full of errors, but let me just say that such modernization has made your lovable Christians more efficient at killing en masse. I guess that’s less brutal than beheading (beheading very popular in the old testament). Moved away from puritanical ways?
Like with sex?
Like with gays?
Like with pedophilia?
Like with war?
Like with religious intolerance?
Oh, compassionate conservatives, accelerating our journey to meet our maker. Thanks Christians.
Comment by funky p — June 29, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
funky p, look at you projecting, c'mon, you know you are describing Liberals of todays.
kid, funky p, don't believe everything you read or hear in the news, ok?
it never fails, liberals loving and embrassing Islam and hating Christianity.
The Muslim terrorists love you kids.
hey funky p, I am sure you know that in the secular world, that is policemen, judges, teachers, etc, etc sexually abuse children in much, much, much, much, much, much greater percentages than any Christian group ever has....so whyd on't you attack policemen, judges, teachers, coaches, engineers, etc, etc?
you poor brainwashed fool...
and tolerance? look how intolerant you are being towards Christianity, you moron! open your eyes, closed minded, intolerant fool, I mean tool of the Libtards.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:19 pmshane - I have a feeling that you have spent some time in a woman's prison and probably took the role of "husband".
June 29th, 2007 at 4:19 pmTrollShiteater
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Shane.
I thought you were above that.
Your hurtful words are intended to hurt people and spread hurtfulness.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:20 pmSo, your standard for a book being right is that it is 1000 pages of what YOU consider evidence? wow…in that case, you also believe in the Bible, right? which well over 1000 pages, right?
One question, my simpleton, did the Muslims invade Jerusalem before the Crusades started? yes or no would be nice, my simpleton. And we don’t need 1000 pages, ok simpleton?
Comment by Conservatron
You really are retarded, aren't you? The author I mentioned (happens to be the most recent book on the subject) is a lecturer in Medieval History at Oxford. So, yes, I'd say that was "evidence." You're welcome to provide citations from whatever sources you'd like, although referencing Rush Limbaugh is probably a bad start.
Your insistence on reducing everything to one tiny, irrelevant simplistic "point" is just exactly what I've noted before and, no, I have no desire to play your childish game.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:20 pmI have a feeling that you have spent some time in a woman’s prison and probably took the role of “husbandâ€.
Comment by John Sacks W/Coservatron — June 29, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
DUDE!!! YOU ARE ON FRIGGIN' FIRE!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThe difference is that the Christians modernized and moved away from their puritanical ways wher Islam has not. If you can’t see the difference then you truly are narrowminded and a lemming of the left - which by definition does make you a teacher.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
No they haven’t. See Iraq.
I actually am a teacher - high school. Why I have a hard time explain stuff at your elementary mindset…
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Wait, are you claiming that an organized Christian denomination invaded and attcked Iraq? really? which one? how many Christians? do you mean to say that there aren't Jews, Muslims, Christians, Atheists, etc in the United States military? the USA military is an only Christian military, eh?
wow, God help the high school kids you teach, super ignorant Libtard.
where do you teach so I can call them up and have them fire you immediatly for your immense ignorance, intolerance and closed mindness....
teacher? I very much doubted!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI don’t actually think you work at Burger king, so it’s more of a joke rather than an full-fledged attack.
Comment by CT V_1
You know all this backpedalling you do is how you ended up with your head wedged so firmly up your ass.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:22 pmJust like the professors that have evidence that Bush blew up the World Trace Centers. Yea, professors are really credible people these days given their extreme education and the fact that they know that they are smarter than everyone else.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:22 pmJohnny Swank "None of you cowards have watched what and who our true enemies are. I don’t agree with Savage,"
June 29th, 2007 at 4:22 pmIf you don't agree with Savage, don't cite him as a credible source.
You are wrong, and here is why: I have seen two of the videos. Horrific.
Saudis use beheading. They are our friends and trading partners.
Saudis live under a theocratic dictatorship...where the Royal family rules ruthlessly. They are friends with Bush/Cheny. Apparently, where money is involved, beheading is O.K.
Balls? Doesn’t answer the question.
Yes it does. Atheists are just willing to be honest about not believing in any of the religious fairytales despite the persecution from religious people like those of you who support the occupation of Islamic Iraq...
By definition of not being non-religious does that make Athiesm a Religion? By definition of religion and the fanaticsm of Athiests I would say yes.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
No, it's not a religion. Sheesh...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:23 pmSo, your standard for a book being right is that it is 1000 pages of what YOU consider evidence? wow…in that case, you also believe in the Bible, right? which well over 1000 pages, right?
One question, my simpleton, did the Muslims invade Jerusalem before the Crusades started? yes or no would be nice, my simpleton. And we don’t need 1000 pages, ok simpleton?
Comment by Conservatron
You really are retarded, aren’t you? The author I mentioned (happens to be the most recent book on the subject) is a lecturer in Medieval History at Oxford. So, yes, I’d say that was “evidence.†You’re welcome to provide citations from whatever sources you’d like, although referencing Rush Limbaugh is probably a bad start.
Your insistence on reducing everything to one tiny, irrelevant simplistic “point†is just exactly what I’ve noted before and, no, I have no desire to play your childish game.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
why won't you answer the question gummitch....yes or no...
Did Muslims invade Jerusalem before the Crusades started?
why are you terrified of answering this question, my simpleton?
you seem to want to complicate things so as to put no blame on those that deserve the blame, kid?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:23 pmunbelievable is a typical teacher in public schools. That is why my kids never stepped foot in a public school.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:23 pmComment #41:
33 - As a typical liberal , you cannot make a comment without making a personal attack and using profanity in your discussion. Typical.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Comment #358:
shane - I have a feeling that you have spent some time in a woman’s prison and probably took the role of “husbandâ€.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Comment #284
I bet he is a real man, probably does anything you say so you want beat the shit out of him.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
Sooooo, he chastises about personal attacks and foul language. Then he uses foul language and makes personal attacks.
Par for the course for many conservatives.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:24 pmConservatron
June 29th, 2007 at 4:24 pmIt is the so called compassionate conservative christians who started this war, not necessarily the people who are fighting it.
I find it believable that unbelievable is a school teacher. It explains why our kids are so ignorant. You teach them what you spout off in here?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:25 pmYour numbers in the first group add up to more than 100%?
Comment by funky p
Oh man, now you've done it. His head is going to assplode. How can he figure out over 100% when he only has 10 fingers.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI do not agree with the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory. I accept that the Bush Regime allowed 9/11 to happen, but think some of my fellow liberals give the Bushites too much credit for actually being able to do something right for once...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:25 pmGiven that the majority of Congress voted for the war and the majority of Congress claims to be Christian then that statement has some truth.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:26 pmBalls? Doesn’t answer the question.
Yes it does. Atheists are just willing to be honest about not believing in any of the religious fairytales despite the persecution from religious people like those of you who support the occupation of Islamic Iraq…
By definition of not being non-religious does that make Athiesm a Religion? By definition of religion and the fanaticsm of Athiests I would say yes.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
No, it’s not a religion. Sheesh…
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
actually, court cases have said that Atheism is a religion. Look it up kid.
and once again, you must take a jab at Christianity....question, are Muslims persecuting Christians in their countries?
are Muslim terrorists buring and destroying Catholic Churches in Iraq? yes or no?
have Christian children been beheaded by Muslims just for the mere fact of attending a pariochal school in the Philipines, in Africa, etc?
and once again, attacking Iraq has NOTHING to do with it being Islam....in fact, since Hussein took over and even now, the government of Iraq has always claimed that it is a secular, non-religious government and country.
so much for you knowing anything, "teacher".
Go find out how Iran wanted to conquer Iraq during the 1980s, after Hussein attacked it and convert it into a theocracy. Hussein was a dictator, a monster, a pig, human garbage, but one thing he and his government were not is religious and neither is the current one.
I would urge you to open up a book and get an education, religion hater.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:27 pmOh man, now you’ve done it. His head is going to assplode. How can he figure out over 100% when he only has 10 fingers.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
LOL!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:27 pmunbelievable is a typical teacher in public schools. That is why my kids never stepped foot in a public school.
Comment by John Sacks W/St.Daryll — June 29, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Snark!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:27 pm(please insert your own joke here)
Ahem.
And finally...
Ahem. Hey, pot. Kettle here....
Lay off the inflamatory tone, and you might not catch so much of it.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:28 pmYea, professors are really credible people these days given their extreme education and the fact that they know that they are smarter than everyone else.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
Wait... wouldn't the very definition of a person being a professor mean that he/she has more education than the typical citizen? Therefore giving them greater perspective and perhaps a greater understanding of issues and events?
I will never understand conservatives who see higher education as a bad trait for leaders to have. Personally, I want someone who has more education than the average citizen making decisions... not a cowboy from Texas.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:28 pmYea, Christians are brutal - I remember that time that Jerry Faldwell donned a black ski mask and chopped off Sam Donaldson’s head on the Internet.
Comment by John Sacks
Well how about that Christian prowrestler who just smothered his wife and son before hanging himself. How about the guy who shot his 3 kids and wife and then pretended he was shot in the leg, he was a christian. And they were both white males. In fact, 99.9% of mass murderers in this country have been white males and mostly christians. Should we hold all white christian males responsible for those actions?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:28 pmWhy, it is fun to get in the faces of those that got in ours - after all, this is a BLOG.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:29 pmshane — that's right, every one who has ever committed a crime is a Christian.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:30 pm#
Why, it is fun to get in the faces of those that got in ours - after all, this is a BLOG.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Which of course, means it is somehow beneath you. Why are you on this 'BLOG' again?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:31 pmAtheism is NOT a religion. I don't care what a court has called it.
a·the·ism /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ey-thee-iz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
[Origin: 1580–90;
I'm not a typical teacher. I don't teach the conservative state curriculum, because I don't have to, therefore my students actually learn critical thinking skills and real-world based information. Needless to say, both the kids and the parents are happy.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:31 pmbobcat_grad — because of political correctness and the stuffing of conservative or any non Liberal idea on most college campuses - and the proagandizing and pontificating to the students. My kids learned how to be a liberal to get better grades on their papers - because if the professor disagreed with their views their grades were worse - no matter that they had perfect grammer, spelling, etc. I have seen this bullshit firsthand.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:32 pmAlright All
as 5:00 nears...
it is my 11 year anniversary with my beautiful wife today!
so as much as I would love to continue playing whack-a-troll, there are more important things in life.
Now if we can just get a darn babysitter for tonight :-)
take care, everyone
June 29th, 2007 at 4:33 pm(and yes, that includes you Captain Kirk and John Sacks)
That is why my kids never stepped foot in a public school.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Private school teachers are paid less than public school teachers. By conservative logic, that makes them inferior...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:33 pmBut, that would require you to be in our faces, which you are not. You are a million miles away typing at the other end of a keyboard. You could be on the international space station. You aren't in anybody's face.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:34 pmre·li·gion - cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. -- I think Athiesm meets that definition.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:34 pm#382 - You didn't answer the question shane asked.
shane didn't ask "Are all criminals Christian?" He asked whether you should hold an entire religion responsible for the acts of criminals who happen to be of that faith.
Are you able to answer that question?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:34 pmNo, it’s not a religion. Sheesh…
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Don't Praise the Lord!!! unbelievable is one of the devote!!!!!!!!!
Don't follow her Word and you will find Eternal Glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:34 pmI had a sarcastic moment - I guess you didn’t get it. Sorry.
Comment by John Sacks
Don't even know which post you're referring to Skippy. Or are you talking to yourself again. I suspect you were referring to CT being an immigrant getting free tuition. That was enormously amusing. Such wit, style and panache. I'm laughing uncontrollably. Is that the stroke you were looking for?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:35 pmYou are describing exactly what you are doing here. Hmmmmm. You don't like what you are doing and yet, you still do it. Weird.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:35 pmComment by unbelievable - actually, they chose to make less because of their strong traditional beliefs in traditional education and their willingness to make that sacrafice.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:35 pmshane — that’s right, every one who has ever committed a crime is a Christian.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Not all - but most. Glad to see you finally got one fact correct, even if, again, totally by accident...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:36 pmactually, they chose to make less because of their strong traditional beliefs in traditional education and their willingness to make that sacrafice.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
Nonsense. They make less because they are less qualified. It's harder to be a public school teacher...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:38 pmshane - that's right, no Athiest, nor Jew, new Muslim, nor Satanist, nor anyone else has committed crimes. That must be some ripe shit you are smoking.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:38 pmWhy, it is fun to get in the faces of those that got in ours - after all, this is a BLOG.
Comment by John Sacks
Yup. When the TROLLS who support TRAITOR Bush the ISLAMOTerrorist OIL WHOREBAG are posting WELL OVER 50% of the POSTS,
but WON'T ANSWER the question of WHY Bush and Cheney REFUSED TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE American People re 9/11
you KNOW Bush is in DEEP TROUBLE.
As such a TREASONOUS coxucker PUNK like Bush SHOULD be...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:38 pmReading through all of these posts only confirms my belief that the key difference between conservatives and progressives is this:
Conservatives see the entire world as black or white; us or them. Progressives understand there this world is made up of many shades of greys and that it can be us AND them.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:38 pmit is my 11 year anniversary with my beautiful wife today!
Comment by DRxJ — June 29, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
Happy anniversary!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhat is it with you Shane today? You’re in such a foul mood.
Comment by I just wonder
Nope I'm just playing by the neocon rule book. I watched Ann Coulter this week. I see how the game is played and won. You guys like to think all liberals are weak, but you mistake empathy for weakness and so we should only show empathy for the worthy. And you neocon nazi fascist corporatists are not who deserves our compassion. Welcome to the new world order.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pmAtheism -–noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
unbelievable, if you follow a "doctrine or belief,"
guess what!
YOU ARE RELIGIOUS!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:40 pmJust look at the test results from Catholic schools vs. Public schools - oh yea, not to mention that the level of study is a step above to boot. Honsors classes in the public school are equivalent to standard classes in the Catholic High School. So if these teachers are less qualified then how can they teach at a higher level?
Truth is that many of them are retired from their respective fields, including public school teaching, and they want to be in an environment that is not tainted with Liberal propaganda and bullying from a faciast NEA.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:40 pmI love how spudge boy makes a point of making comments about others "getting in your faces" or any other intimidation of his people. When this happens,usually that person is angered that someone pissed on one of his own. Protecting your turf and peoples? Funny.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:41 pm#396 -
You still didn't answer the question.
Your reading comprehension skills need some work, sir.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:42 pmYou guys really can't stand getting dosed with your own medicine can you.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:42 pmre·li·gion - cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. — I think Athiesm meets that definition.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
You just copied the part you liked. That's called cheating...
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
Nope, Atheism is NOT a religion, just like the United States is NOT a Christian nation.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:42 pmshane — that’s right, every one who has ever committed a crime is a Christian.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Not all - but most. Glad to see you finally got one fact correct, even if, again, totally by accident…
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
June 29th, 2007 at 4:42 pmTypical Islamo-Stalinist Ignorance and Arrogance.
unbelievable, if you follow a “doctrine or belief,â€
guess what!
YOU ARE RELIGIOUS!!!
That's silly.... I believe pie is delcious. Therefore I follow a pie religion?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:43 pmComment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
That "esp" means "especially" NOT "exhaustively"
YOU ARE RELIGIOUS!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:43 pmDRxJ: Grats on your anniversary. Today is my 5 year with my wife.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:44 pmStay out of my private affairs.
You have no power, you should have no discretion, either. You haven’t earned it.
Comment by CT V_1
Maybe I'm a Muslim. And I've been insulted by your Islam Stalinist Muslim Shiteater Raghead comments. Or maybe I'm Jewish and you and Mr. P ranting about the Jooooossssss all day yesterday pissed me off. Either way, I don't need you to tell me what power I have. I have whatever power I choose. Just like you felt you had unlimited power to try to ridicule ace yesterday.
On that topic though, he kicked your ass. That was fun the way he just ignored you and accomplished so much.
If your unhappy feel free to run along. Otherwise just keep on whining little girl.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:45 pm"You know all this backpedalling you do is how you ended up with your head wedged so firmly up your ass."
Comment by shane
You call it backpedaling (per your political aggression), I call it clarification. Take it any way you want, senile fool, but it's not fact. Keep that in mind.
Anything else, youth stalker?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:48 pmSo if these teachers are less qualified then how can they teach at a higher level?
They make up their own standards, because they don't have to answer to the Federal government for what they define as 'higher'.
There is more to a student's success in life that the classroom. More impinges upon a student's homelife, and unlike hypocritical private schools, we don't turn a kid away just because he had the unfortunate circumstance to be born poor - which impacts our scores. That's altruism.
Truth is that many of them are retired from their respective fields, including public school teaching, and they want to be in an environment that is not tainted with Liberal propaganda and bullying from a faciast NEA.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
That's nonsense. The public Education System is governed by conservatives and that's what's destroying it.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:49 pmTrollShiteater
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Shane.
I thought you were above that.
Your hurtful words are intended to hurt people and spread hurtfulness.
Comment by Mr. President
Yeah I thought you had raised your level of discourse too and then yesterday was bitterly disappointed to see your new approach. I guess we'll both have to be disillusioned. Fact is, you surprised more than just me with these new tactics, many of us gave you credit for being intelligent. But we're over it now.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:50 pmunbelievabl - That’s nonsense. The public Education System is governed by conservatives and that’s what’s destroying it.
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You just showed major ignorance in that comment.
BTW, those of us that chose private education still pay the taxes that pay for the public education system which we are not using. In my hometown, 52% of property taxes pay go to the school system (10th largest in the country btw) and I have never used it. So they are getting free money from me and the other 31% of the population here that chose private school.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:52 pmTypical Islamo-Stalinist Ignorance and Arrogance.
Comment by Mr. President
June 29th, 2007 at 4:52 pmSays another azzhole-licker of TRAITOR and AWOL COWARD Bush, the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG...
Conservatives see the entire world as black or white; us or them. Progressives understand there this world is made up of many shades of greys and that it can be us AND them.
Comment by bobcat_grad — June 29, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
I agree.
Happy anniversary to you too!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:53 pmI have a feeling that you have spent some time in a woman’s prison and probably took the role of “husbandâ€.
Comment by John Sacks
Make's you wonder what I was in prison for doesn't it. You ever hear of Lorraine Bobbit. She was such an amateur. If you don't remove testicles too they just sew the member back on when they find it no problem. You want me to show you?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:53 pmMen tend to see things as black and white while woman see many shades of grey. Applying this to the conservative/liberal argument above that would make male liberals gay wound't it?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:54 pmshane, I am sure you have clipped a few balls in your day.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:54 pmWould you liberals please explain to me why you call conservatives "Nazis". Do you understand how stupid you sound?The conservatives have been firing up those ovens haven't they?They sure have been starving all of those Jews in concentration camps all over America!! While they've been joining forces with the Chinese to steal and pillage all the worlds possesions, exterminating everyone in their paths. And conservatives sure are occupying every country we don't like and go to war with. We liberate by the way! Fools!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:55 pmSo they are getting free money from me and the other 31% of the population here that chose private school.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
I work for the school system, I think I know better than you that the Administration is conservative. You partly helped to elect it, remember?
It's not just about money! Sheesh! It's about the kids!
You get tax credits for public school tuition, so don't act like you give freely... That's nonsense too.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:55 pmSays another azzhole-licker of TRAITOR and AWOL COWARD Bush, the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Typical Muslim-Loving Lefty Defeatist
June 29th, 2007 at 4:56 pmunbelievable - I work for the school system, I think I know better than you that the Administration is conservative. You partly helped to elect it, remember?
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June 29th, 2007 at 4:56 pmSo does my wife and I have done several projects for 3 public schools systems. You are full of crap.
Funny thing is that a study here has 25% of kids of public school teachers in private school.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:57 pmSays another azzhole-licker of TRAITOR and AWOL COWARD Bush, the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Typical Muslim-Loving Lefty Defeatist
Comment by Mr. President
Coming from a typical azzhole-licker of a Saudi OIL WHOREBAG and ISLAMOTerrorist like TRAITOR Bush, your words mean NOTHING, Nazi...
June 29th, 2007 at 4:58 pmSo does my wife and I have done several projects for 3 public schools systems.
Liar, or hypocrite. If you think they are so bad, you wouldn't support her work there...
You are full of crap.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Nah, you're just smelling your own breath.
Okay, I have more of a life than you as well, so I'm off.
Night everyone!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:58 pmComment by JohnnySwank — June 29, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
It's because they close their ears and eyes and hope and hope (not pray!) that the bad guys will go away.
If they don't get things their way... time for the smear campaign!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:58 pmshane — that’s right, every one who has ever committed a crime is a Christian.
Comment by John Sacks
Replying to post 379 I assume. That's quite the nonsequiter. But as the Geico caveman says, "Ah, what?"
I think you, cromagnum man, need to play with your peer group at Redstates, they probably speak your language.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:59 pmComing from a typical azzhole-licker of a Saudi OIL WHOREBAG and ISLAMOTerrorist like TRAITOR Bush, your words mean NOTHING, Nazi…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
Typical Smug Lefty.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:00 pmComment by shane
Muslimshiteaters (tm) are the ultimate terrorists bent on world domination. I'm sorry you choose not to understand that, but it doesn't matter what occured in 1400 B.C. Maybe if muslims, for one, living in this country showed more outrage at the muslamoid acts committed, it wouldn't be too hard to accept their state of affairs. Perhaps you should start asking more out of them.
"On that topic though, he kicked your ass. That was fun the way he just ignored you and accomplished so much."
I'm not offended by anybody's postings here. You only seek to be talented concerning the War of Words. You have forgotten action, however. That record, your dummycratic party doesn't have.
"If your unhappy feel free to run along. Otherwise just keep on whining little girl."
I won't feel free to "run along" according to the wishes of a senile freak. Hopefully when Social Security is reformed (and I hope it is), you'll have to get your a** back to work. Again, you're a disgrace to people in your age group.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:01 pmunbelievable — she works there for the benefits. I am self employed and my wife had cancer so I couldn't get insurance. She is surrounded by idiots and conservative bashers and it has become kind of comical for her.
I have other family members that work for the same school system (3 for that matter) and none of us send our kids there.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:01 pmTypical Smug Lefty.
Comment by Mr. President
Better yet,
Bush and Cheney are Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS and ISLAMOTerrorist TRAITORS to the USA...
June 29th, 2007 at 5:02 pmYou guys really can’t stand getting dosed with your own medicine can you.
Comment by John Sacks
In your dreams Sacksashit.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:04 pmBush and Cheney are Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS and ISLAMOTerrorist TRAITORS to the USA…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Typical Leftist Propagandizer.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:04 pmThat’s silly…. I believe pie is delcious. Therefore I follow a pie religion?
Comment by bobcat_grad
I just spit water on my keyboard. Thanks for the laughs.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:05 pmMr. President,
The number of outed Islamo-stalinists have increased during your term. Yanking their welfare checks must have increased tensions.
What do you have to say for yourself? Heh. Heh.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:06 pmBush and Cheney are Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS and ISLAMOTerrorist TRAITORS to the USA…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Typical Leftist Propagandizer.
Comment by Mr. President
June 29th, 2007 at 5:07 pmSays the APOLOGIST for Bush and Cheney, Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS and ISLAMOTerrorist TRAITORS to the USA...
DRxJ, 11 years: Grats on your anniversary. Today is my 5 year with my wife.
Comment by bobcat_grad
11 years and 5 years, bunch of newlyweds around here. But happy anniversary to you all, have a great evening.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:08 pmComment by CT V_1 — June 29, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
It's disgusting. But we should not rub it in their face when they are proved wrong.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:10 pmYou call it backpedaling (per your political aggression), I call it clarification. Take it any way you want, senile fool, but it’s not fact. Keep that in mind.
Anything else, youth stalker?
Comment by CT V_1
You call me a youth stalker but you apologize to men all the time when they call you out. I guess you're just a woman basher and a back pedaler.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:10 pmSays the APOLOGIST for Bush and Cheney, Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS and ISLAMOTerrorist TRAITORS to the USA…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
Typical Islamophile Lefty Defeatist.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:11 pmYou call me a youth stalker but you apologize to men all the time when they call you out. I guess you’re just a woman basher and a back pedaler.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
No. He apologizes when he thinks that he has hurt someone's feelings.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:12 pmWe liberate by the way! Fools!!!
Comment by JohnnySwank
Oh yeah, those 600,000 dead Iraqis are liberated all right. Attaboy.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:13 pmshane, I am sure you have clipped a few balls in your day.
Comment by John Sacks
If you had any, I'd clip them.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:14 pmOh yeah, those 600,000 dead Iraqis are liberated all right. Attaboy.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
600,000!?!
Reference please?!?!
June 29th, 2007 at 5:17 pmSays the APOLOGIST for Bush and Cheney, Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS and ISLAMOTerrorist TRAITORS to the USA…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
Typical Islamophile Lefty Defeatist.
Comment by Mr. President
And so it goes...
Bush 41 and Saleem Bin Laden together at the DC Ritz Carlton on 9/11
Bush and Cheney RESISTING the 9/11 commission for OVER A YEAR.
Bush and Cheney REFUSING TO SWEAR TO GOD UNDER OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Absolute TRUTH, unlike YOUR propaganda, ISLAMOTerrorist azz-licker...
June 29th, 2007 at 5:17 pmI won’t feel free to “run along†according to the wishes of a senile freak. Hopefully when Social Security is reformed (and I hope it is), you’ll have to get your a** back to work. Again, you’re a disgrace to people in your age group.
Comment by CT V_1
53 year olds don't get Social Security. I'm at work now. That's why sometimes I'm a little behind on posting, Einstein. And regardless of what Limbaugh and O'Reilly tell you, many progressives have personal retirement accounts, idiot.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:18 pmAbsolute TRUTH, unlike YOUR propaganda, ISLAMOTerrorist azz-licker…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Typical Conspiracy Nutter.
See you HELL Mr. BGTH ('cause I AM you and I'll BE THERE)
June 29th, 2007 at 5:20 pmSo does my wife and I have done several projects for 3 public schools systems.
Liar, or hypocrite. If you think they are so bad, you wouldn’t support her work there…
You are full of crap.
Comment by John Sacks — June 29, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Nah, you’re just smelling your own breath.
Okay, I have more of a life than you as well, so I’m off.
Night everyone!
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
what retards like unbelievable don't get that even Liberal politicians don't trust public school teachers like her to teach their kids!!!! hahahahaha!!!
If you are so good, unbelievable, why don't Al Gore, Clinton, Pelosi, and the rest of the Democratic politician elites send their kids to public schools so retarded teachers like you can teach them? I know why, do you?
......because they know that public school teachers are NOT too smart or well educated!
hahahaha!!!! the gods that you worship hate you unbelieveable. hahahaha!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 5:20 pm600,000!?!
Reference please?!?!
Comment by Mr. President
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html
June 29th, 2007 at 5:21 pmIf YOU disagree with such a number, tell us YOURS and don't forget a REFERENCE, PLEASE?!?!?
she works there for the benefits. I am self employed and my wife had cancer so I couldn’t get insurance. She is surrounded by idiots and conservative bashers and it has become kind of comical for her.
I have other family members that work for the same school system (3 for that matter) and none of us send our kids there.
Comment by John Sacks
You COULD get insurance, you just choose to do it the EASY way and let somebody else pay for your insurance. The rest of your post is just crap, you're USING taxpayer dollars to get off easy. I pay my employee's insurance. So get off your high horse and admit you're sucking off the public just like the welfare queen you are.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:21 pmSorry, I'm really late into this debate so if what I'm going to say has been covered before then tell me to STFU.
Of course our involvement in Iraq has made us a target for terrorists. Like it or not, the radical aspect of Islamic fundamentalism can't compete with two first world nations of the battlefield. So they go for asymmetric warfare and terrorist strikes.
However, they have slightly underestimated the UK. I'm 29 and ever since I was born someone has been trying to blow me up. In the past it was Nationalist communities in Ireland. Today it's radical Muslims. Next year it could be Cornish separatists. So what? Ultimately they know they can't kill us all so the victory is to scare us. We aren't scared though.
I'd like to quote a famous incident on a website just after the 7/7 bombings. Someone wrote
"The UK is terrified, from the North to the South, the West and the East"
Someone replied with
"No we aren't so f*ck you".
Summed it up perfectly
June 29th, 2007 at 5:22 pmI won’t feel free to “run along†according to the wishes of a senile freak. Hopefully when Social Security is reformed (and I hope it is), you’ll have to get your a** back to work. Again, you’re a disgrace to people in your age group.
Comment by CT V_1
53 year olds don’t get Social Security. I’m at work now. That’s why sometimes I’m a little behind on posting, Einstein. And regardless of what Limbaugh and O’Reilly tell you, many progressives have personal retirement accounts, idiot.
Comment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
of course you have personal retirement accounts. The question is why don't you want the poor to have personal retirenment accounts. Why do you want to the poor to rely on Social Security which is completly broken?
typical "progressive", just a Libtard too ashame to call herself a Libtard......
anyway, typical Libtard, do as I say, not as I live.
that is the same thing with your godly politicians, they all have personal, private retirenment accounts, but they don't want the public, mainly the poor and the lower class to be able to have personal retirenment accounts.
hypocrite, retard, union leaker.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:22 pmThe number of outed Islamo-stalinists have increased during your term. Yanking their welfare checks must have increased tensions.
What do you have to say for yourself? Heh. Heh.
Comment by CT V_1
Talk to Johnny Sacks about welfare. He's taking public money for health insurance while he's self employed. Bunch of welfare queens you Neocon Nazis are.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:23 pmAbsolute TRUTH, unlike YOUR propaganda, ISLAMOTerrorist azz-licker…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Typical Conspiracy Nutter.
See you HELL Mr. BGTH (’cause I AM you and I’ll BE THERE)
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
AMEN, Mr. "preznit". I AM a TRAITOR to the USA, and a Saudi OIL WHOREBAG ISLAMOTerrorist azzhole-licker,
cause I am YOU; I'll See YOU in hell mr. "preznit" (cause I'LL be THERE),
June 29th, 2007 at 5:24 pmMr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
AWOL COWARD ISLAMOTerrorist COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA
"You call me a youth stalker but you apologize to men all the time when they call you out. I guess you’re just a woman basher and a back pedaler."
Comment by shane
I'll apologize to anyone when I'm flatly alerted that I've crossed the line, eventually anyways. Heck, even Mr. President hasn't hesitated in calling me out. In your case, I'm responding to blantant personal attacks with blatant personal attacks. The best way to respond? Of course not, but I suppose that's the best way I know.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:25 pmNo. He apologizes when he thinks that he has hurt someone’s feelings.
Comment by Mr. President
No he doesn't. He apologizes when he is scared. Just like you. You're both cowards.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:25 pmIslam started in Saudi Arabia, and the Mahometians just appeared in Jerus*lem?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I thought you were smarter than that.
Comment by Mr. President
Other than the fact that it wasn't "Saudi" Arabia at the time, your facts are getting closer, but were you really under the delusion that Jerusalem was part of Europe?
June 29th, 2007 at 5:25 pm600,000!?!
Reference please?!?!
Comment by Mr. President
Red Cross estimates, go google yourself.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:25 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
Not MY reference.
#264
Casualties from the Iraq Occupation (perpetrated by Christians in the White House):
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
June 29th, 2007 at 5:27 pmMan you trolls just suck...I have to scroll past more than have the posts here to read anything...No I do not ever read anything MR (stupid)Pres or John Sack-o-crap or Jake or Rogerx2 or VV or any of their subhuman neanderthal knuckle dragging brethern.
IGNORE THE TROLLS PEOPLE !!!
June 29th, 2007 at 5:29 pmYeah, I did come in a bit too late didn't I? :-)
June 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pmComment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — June 29, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
Not MY reference.
#264
Casualties from the Iraq Occupation (perpetrated by Christians in the White House):
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
Comment by unbelievable — June 29, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Comment by Mr. President — June 29, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! a site ran by left wing Marxists!!! only the libtards believe such nonsense.
silly little Libtards, such tools.
600,000 is a number that has been made up by the Marxist libtards.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pm600,000 is a number that has been made up by the Marxist libtards.
Comment by Conservatron
Okay why don't you post a link to your source.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:31 pmunbelievable — she works there for the benefits. I am self employed and my wife had cancer so I couldn’t get insurance. She is surrounded by idiots and conservative bashers and it has become kind of comical for her.
I have other family members that work for the same school system (3 for that matter) and none of us send our kids there.
Comment by John Sacks
I love a man of principle, don't you? Bitch constantly about government and then latch on to the government teat at the first opportunity.
And why do I think "self employed", when expressed by someone spending hours and hours online, is more accurately "out of work"?
June 29th, 2007 at 5:32 pm600,000 is a number that has been made up by the Marxist libtards.
Comment by Conservatron
Okay why don’t you post a link to your source.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:33 pmI agree. These Nazi azzhole-lickers of TRAITORS like ISLAMOTerrorists Bush and Cheney NEVER do..
"No he doesn’t. He apologizes when he is scared. Just like you. You’re both cowards."
Comment by shane
Scared about what, shane? Provide the technical evidence, the links. Prove yourself.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:34 pmComment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Nope.
I never said I thought Jerus*lem was part of Europe. If you would have read the above posts, you would have seen that I said that the Moors invaded Spain (Europe) and the other Saracens were invading Europe.
After the revival of Xtianity at the end of the Dark Ages (partly because of the Muslim invaders), Europeans felt that they should steal back Jerus*lam.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pmComment by Mr. President
"Saracens"? Now I get it. Your whole knowledge of the Crusades comes from reading Robin Hood.
God, that is funny.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:40 pm“The UK is terrified, from the North to the South, the West and the Eastâ€
Someone replied with
“No we aren’t so f*ck youâ€.
Summed it up perfectly
Comment by UKBristolDave — June 29, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
How very British. :)
June 29th, 2007 at 5:40 pmIt seems that the "bomb plot" leads to sardonic laughter over there:
More fear biscuits please
June 29th, 2007 at 5:42 pm600,000 is a number that has been made up by the Marxist libtards.
Comment by Conservatron — June 29, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
One of the sites says 655,000 and another says 69,000.
Quite a discrepancy.
Both are "estamites"
June 29th, 2007 at 5:42 pmComment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
So you concede?
June 29th, 2007 at 5:43 pmComment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Typical reaction from a Lefty Know-it-all proved wrong.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:44 pmComment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
We don't like little people trying to push us around. The news that night summed up the UK spirit perfectly. I'm sure that ITV did it just for a laugh but they interviewed an aging banker every hour in a pub. Over the night you watched this banker getting slowly more and more pissed. It was a great comic moment in the middle of a tragedy.
I bet his wife had a right word with him when he finally got home...
June 29th, 2007 at 5:47 pmI bet his wife had a right word with him when he finally got home…
Comment by UKBristolDave
Heh. I'd have been proud of him.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:50 pmSo you concede?
Comment by Mr. President
I'm amused, yes.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:51 pmComment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
It was great to watch. In the midst of this chaos an old boy was getting himself juiced up and coming out with lines like "Well you can't let it get to you, life must go on - another scotch please landlord".
To be fair, it was perfect. He summed up the understated resolve of the UK. OK, some people have just commited a suicide attack. In response, I'm off to the pub. This is what works though. It means the terrorists haven't won because we aren't scared.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:55 pmyes.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
Good, because I'm conceited and I wasn't going to stop until you did!
June 29th, 2007 at 5:56 pmAll of this started escalating since Cheney, Bush and the White House Counsel were served with Senate subpoenas for wiretap documents.
Just like the Mafia, when trapped in a corner, a Crime family will do and say anything to avoid prosecution.
Calling ALL Patriots in our Country, Regardless of Political Party
–> NOW: Protect our House and Senate Judiciary Chairmans NOW. And our People and Country.
We cannot rely on our Justice Dept, The FBI, or the Department of Homeland Security.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:56 pmThese offices answer directly to Cheney and Bush and are as criminally corrupt as we have ever seen in the History of this Country.
Comment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
I suppose asking you to say "uncle" is going too far?
June 29th, 2007 at 5:58 pmTo be fair, it was perfect. He summed up the understated resolve of the UK. OK, some people have just commited a suicide attack. In response, I’m off to the pub. This is what works though. It means the terrorists haven’t won because we aren’t scared.
Comment by UKBristolDave
Exactly. The dominant emotion in the US is fear. It makes the terrorist dance in the streets, because they win and no longer have to run airplanes into buildings to scare us. I won't live that way.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:58 pmTo be fair, it was perfect. He summed up the understated resolve of the UK. OK, some people have just commited a suicide attack. In response, I’m off to the pub. This is what works though. It means the terrorists haven’t won because we aren’t scared.
Comment by UKBristolDave
My good friend who lives near Manchester is scared for his wife, who works in London and stays mid-week at their London flat. Not so scared he's missing any pints, mind you, but still the upper lip may have trembled ever so much.
Bastard just got pensioned off today, at age 51. Forgot I was hacked at him for a minute there.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:58 pmI suppose asking you to say “uncle†is going too far?
Comment by Mr. President
Why not settle for "second cousin, twice removed"?
June 29th, 2007 at 6:02 pmGood, because I’m conceited and I wasn’t going to stop until you did!
Comment by Mr. President
Imagine that....
June 29th, 2007 at 6:03 pmHI ZOOEY!!!!
HOW ARE YOU TODAY!?!?!?
June 29th, 2007 at 6:08 pmComment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Shit, pensioned at 51? That's not good fella.
I just want to make it clear that I wasn't saying it's bad to be worried. I'm not worried because the stats suggest I'm more likely to kill myself than die by a terrorist attack. When it's family though it's all a bit different. I think it's because terror strikes are so random and when they come you can't do anything to protect your loved ones that make the fear so intense. Hell, that's what terrorists thrive on.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:09 pmHOW ARE YOU TODAY!?!?!?
Comment by CT V_1
I'm very well, CT. How much havoc are you creating today? ;)
June 29th, 2007 at 6:11 pmI love a man of principle, don’t you? Bitch constantly about government and then latch on to the government teat at the first opportunity.
And why do I think “self employedâ€, when expressed by someone spending hours and hours online, is more accurately “out of workâ€?
Comment by gummitch
Isn't it just amazing gummitch. I have a brother inlaw who's air quotes self employed too. His wife supports him also. And this guy's question the manhood of my husband. Ironical, nyuck, nyuck.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:17 pmI’m very well, CT. How much havoc are you creating today? ;)
Comment by Zooey
HA! No matter how well you teach, Zooey, I seem to never learn. I have the "slow-simmering" learning style, so hopefully you'll bear with me.
As an update, I've offered Mr. President the position of Dean of Trolls, Thinkprogress.org. No word on whether he has accepted.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:18 pmScared about what, shane? Provide the technical evidence, the links. Prove yourself.
Comment by CT V_1
Go back and read the posts where you backpedal. Or ignore me, I don't care.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:18 pmHA! No matter how well you teach, Zooey, I seem to never learn. I have the “slow-simmering†learning style, so hopefully you’ll bear with me.
Of course, dear.
As an update, I’ve offered Mr. President the position of Dean of Trolls, Thinkprogress.org. No word on whether he has accepted.
Comment by CT V_1
I thought VV was your Borg Queen.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:21 pmThe UK is terrified, from the North to the South, the West and the Eastâ€
Someone replied with
“No we aren’t so f*ck youâ€.
Summed it up perfectly
Comment by UKBristolDave — June 29, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
How very British. :)
Comment by Zooey
Hey Zooey and UKBD. "No we aren’t so f*ck you" I love this. Obviously all the cowards are here, thinking if we keep blowing up brown people we'll be safe. Yeesh.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:23 pmComment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
They want you to be scared. Am I? Not at all. I keep going to work, heading out to the pub, going to football (soccer) games. It's the norm in the UK. We get hit by terrorists and the nation comes together by going out and behaving like we always do.
As the poster said "No we aren't so f*ck you".
June 29th, 2007 at 6:27 pmHey Zooey and UKBD. “No we aren’t so f*ck you†I love this. Obviously all the cowards are here, thinking if we keep blowing up brown people we’ll be safe. Yeesh.
Comment by shane
That's why I call them piss-soaked trolls who sleep in dripping beds.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:29 pmThey live in fear.
I thought VV was your Borg Queen.
Comment by Zooey
I really don't know much about VV, have never spoken much to it.
Heck, if Mr. President won't accept the position, I will. I'll be moving into more of a trolling administrative roll for now, but I may return to tenured trolling when I step down.
I hope you've had a good day, Zooey.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:30 pmAs the poster said “No we aren’t so f*ck youâ€.
Comment by UKBristolDave
I like to think that a person's just as likely to get hit by a bus than be attacked by terrorists. Of when you're drunk, buses are a bigger danger, but who quits drinking?
June 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pmShit, pensioned at 51? That’s not good fella.
Comment by UKBristolDave
He's happier than a pig in poo. He works for your government. Or worked. It seems that, since his job had basically run dry, they were required to either find him an equivalent position near his home, or pension him off with a great packet. And his wife already makes twice what he does, so the family income doesn't take much of a hit.
I think he'll find something to do with himself after a bit; even for him, spending the entire day in the pub every day will get old. Unless he's behind the bar, I suppose, pulling pints of Lee's Bitter.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:33 pmThat’s why I call them piss-soaked trolls who sleep in dripping beds.
They live in fear.
Comment by Zooey
Oh my eyes, my eyes, please, not THAT visual again.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:33 pmI hope you’ve had a good day, Zooey.
Comment by Office of the Dean of Trolls
Lovely, thank you.
I hadn't realized the trolls were organizing. Hadn't actually thought them capable. Hmmm....
June 29th, 2007 at 6:34 pmOh my eyes, my eyes, please, not THAT visual again.
Comment by shane
Imagine how it smells.... :D
June 29th, 2007 at 6:35 pmI think he’ll find something to do with himself after a bit; even for him, spending the entire day in the pub every day will get old. Unless he’s behind the bar, I suppose, pulling pints of Lee’s Bitter.
Comment by gummitch
You and your friend could share pub duties. It would be tough duty though. :)
June 29th, 2007 at 6:38 pmComment by shane — June 29, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
Quite. I'm more likely to be the author of my own death than a terrorist. Blimey, I thought the UK security services were going to do me in the night I "met" Prince William. Zooey knows, it's a bit of a long story but it's very, very funny. OK, it is now....
Is it funny Z or am I just blowing my own trumpet?
June 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pmUnless he’s behind the bar, I suppose, pulling pints of Lee’s Bitter.
Comment by gummitch
Hey I spent 15 years as a daytime bartender. It never gets old, especially for the customers.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:41 pmIs it funny Z or am I just blowing my own trumpet?
Comment by UKBristolDave
If you can do that, why would you ever leave the house. Oops, I guess you didn't mean that trumpet. Zooey will share the story with me when she gets time.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:43 pmComment by gummitch — June 29, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Boy done good then! The only thing I can reconcile is getting bored going to the pub. I can't wait until I retire and can spend all day talking football in the boozer.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:43 pmIs it funny Z or am I just blowing my own trumpet?
Comment by UKBristolDave
It's a f*cking fantastic story, UKDave.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pmComment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Yeah, it isn't bad is it? Hehehehe
June 29th, 2007 at 6:46 pmYeah, it isn’t bad is it? Hehehehe
Comment by UKBristolDave
You should tell it. This thread is dead. If anyone objects, we'll tell them to f*ck off. :)
June 29th, 2007 at 6:49 pmComment by Zooey
Well, the organization and diversification of troll body, the sharpening of the academic penmanship of our trolls, and the encouragement of positive, less confrontational discourse with the natives on Thinkprogress.org is very much on the agenda of my deanship. I'm confident that you'll be a driving partner in attaining these goals.
As the 1st dean, I'm pleased to meet you.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:51 pmShane
It's up to you fella. Do you want to hear it? It comes with the Z mark of approval....
June 29th, 2007 at 6:52 pmI’m confident that you’ll be a driving partner in attaining these goals.
As the 1st dean, I’m pleased to meet you.
Comment by Office of the Dean of Trolls
Yeah, well I'll watch from the sidelines, if you don't mind.
I'm allergic.....
June 29th, 2007 at 6:54 pmI'm back. I was on the Rupert Murdoch thread. grrrrrllll He's one of your peeps isn't he UKBD. Could you do something about him?
June 29th, 2007 at 6:59 pmI thought Murdoch was from Australia. I don't know it for sure, I just thought that for some reason.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:00 pmI hadn’t realized the trolls were organizing. Hadn’t actually thought them capable. Hmmm….
Comment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
I've been trying to unite Flaco and The Joker, with myself and CT here.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:01 pmYou should tell it. This thread is dead. If anyone objects, we’ll tell them to f*ck off. :)
Comment by Zooey
Does the thread have to be dead to tell them that? Oops.
Okay UKBD, I could use a good laugh today.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:01 pmI thought Murdoch was from Australia. I don’t know it for sure, I just thought that for some reason.
Comment by Zooey
Oh you're probably right. Sorry UKBD. The trolls are organizing or congealing, whatever.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:02 pmI’ve been trying to unite Flaco and The Joker, with myself and CT here.
Comment by Mr. President
I'm sure you'll all be very happy together, Mr P.
What happened to your Pippy name?
June 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pmIt’s a f*cking fantastic story, UKDave.
Comment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
UKBristolDave, please share..
Or Zooey.
I love a good story and the trolls here are taking all the fun away.
BTW. I've been almost run over by a bus yesterday, riding a bicycle, (not the bus - me) and that's not the first time either. Traffic is a b*tch, so I'm not afraid of them stoopid bombers.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pmWhat happened to your Pippy name?
Comment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
It keeps gettin' nullified
June 29th, 2007 at 7:06 pmAren't the trolls f--king incredible today?
Just a bunch of confrontational a$$hats.
Pissing me off. (and I've had a bad day, so I'm not taking their sh*t)
June 29th, 2007 at 7:06 pmTraffic is a b*tch, so I’m not afraid of them stoopid bombers.
Comment by doro
Anybody who lives in a big city has other things to worry about every day. 36 Chicago Public School kids were killed at school this past year. Terrorists aren't exactly their problem.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:07 pmMurdoch is not a US citizen.
He is a Aussie.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:07 pmoops, AN Aussie
June 29th, 2007 at 7:07 pmTROLLS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 7:08 pmPissing me off. (and I’ve had a bad day, so I’m not taking their sh*t)
Comment by trueblue
Are you not getting any sleep? Hows that little baby girl?
June 29th, 2007 at 7:08 pmAll of you can refer to me as: Dean CT or Dean Compy or Dean Troller or Dean V-1, or whatever fits.
I'll also be powered to award tenure among outstanding trolls. I am now accepting nominations.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:08 pmoops, AN Aussie
Comment by trueblue
Well he's an asshat too. Flaco's busy defending him. Like they have something in common.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:10 pmWow, shane.
36? Yikes.
So sad. Since when is middle age 6, 7, or 8?
There is something seriously wrong. We need to reform just about everything, I think.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:10 pmIt keeps gettin’ nullified
Comment by Mr. President
Awwww, that's too bad. :)
June 29th, 2007 at 7:12 pmNot much sleep.
And she's being stubborn.
I see Obedience training in her future *real* soon.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:13 pmSo sad. Since when is middle age 6, 7, or 8?
There is something seriously wrong. We need to reform just about everything, I think.
Comment by trueblue
Don't you know, those kids have it too good. Just listen to the neocons. Anyway if they don't live to be 18 the trolls will tell us how much money that saves.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:14 pmAren’t the trolls f–king incredible today?
Just a bunch of confrontational a$$hats.
Pissing me off. (and I’ve had a bad day, so I’m not taking their sh*t)
Comment by trueblue
It looks like there are a lot of troll hot button topics today. Hey, once you've been called a murderer, like I have, there's nowhere for them to go, right? :D
June 29th, 2007 at 7:16 pmNot much sleep.
And she’s being stubborn.
I see Obedience training in her future *real* soon.
Comment by trueblue
My Jack Russell Terrorist had 16 weeks of private training. Now he's just awesome, but we both needed every week of that training.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:17 pmWhat happened to UKBD, I thought he was telling his story.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:18 pmThanks, shane.
I think it's the right choice. I have to admit I can't teach her everything.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:19 pmUKDave went to bed since he has to work tomorrow. I'm looking for his old email telling the story. I'll be right back!
Jack Russell Terrorist....heh.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pmHey, once you’ve been called a murderer, like I have, there’s nowhere for them to go, right? :D
Comment by Zooey
If you murder a troll, is it justifiable homicide? Could a jury really convict you? Anyway, who called you a murderer?
June 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pmI think it’s the right choice. I have to admit I can’t teach her everything.
Comment by trueblue
Especially when you're carrying her around all day going "aren't you the cutest little puppy ever" all day. Not that I'm accusing you of course, I'm sure she's in her crate all day.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:21 pmOk, I found it. UKDave's story about the time he knocked Prince William on his arse:
Well, I was out with some mates when I was 17 and we
stopped at a petrol station just outside of Windsor on
a way to a rave. I had to go the toilet and was
running back to the car when I bashed into someone
coming the other way. I didn't know who it was so I
went straight into the "what do you think you're
f*cking doing son, get out of my way" response. The
next thing I knew some big lads piled me into a car
and drove me off top speed. Ouch.
I spent the next few hours persuading them I wasn't a
terrorist and just wanted to go and dance. My saving
grace was that I had 10 pills of E on me.
Special branch / M15 or whatever it was let me off
June 29th, 2007 at 7:24 pmbecause of that. Thank god for MDMA abuse.
If you murder a troll, is it justifiable homicide? Could a jury really convict you? Anyway, who called you a murderer?
Comment by shane
I wouldn't waste my time doing anything to a troll! It was that Conservatron/President Clinton moron. I have no idea what he was talking about, and I certainly wasn't going to ask him.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:27 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
...heheheh...
June 29th, 2007 at 7:40 pmgrace was that I had 10 pills of E on me.
Special branch / M15 or whatever it was let me off
because of that. Thank god for MDMA abuse.
Comment by Zooey
Oh that is good. Of course in the US they'd have booked him for drug possession and given him 30 years.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:46 pmComment by shane
Shane, that's why my tenure as dean will see the easing of tensions between resident democrats and troll (republican) dissidents. If I were you, I'd be excited at the prospect of better troll relations.
The first order of my deanship will be unionizing the quality trolls, to collectively become the faculty.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:46 pmI wouldn’t waste my time doing anything to a troll! It was that Conservatron/President Clinton moron. I have no idea what he was talking about, and I certainly wasn’t going to ask him.
Comment by Zooey
I don't even read those, too boring/schizo. CT's new moniker is making it easier to ignore him too, yea.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:47 pmComment by Mr. President
Mr. President, you're the top candidate at this time for tenure, but I won't act immediately. I'll need to review your work.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:48 pmOh that is good. Of course in the US they’d have booked him for drug possession and given him 30 years.
Comment by shane
Isn't that amazing? MI5 let him off because he was just an idiot kid with X. You're right, he'd have been thrown in jail for a long time here -- and he'd be all over Fox for days. Geez...
June 29th, 2007 at 7:49 pmMr. President, you’re the top candidate at this time for tenure, but I won’t act immediately. I’ll need to review your work.
Comment by Office of the Dean of Trolls — June 29, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Go ahead.
Try to find my records!
heheh...
June 29th, 2007 at 7:50 pmIsn’t that amazing? MI5 let him off because he was just an idiot kid with X. You’re right, he’d have been thrown in jail for a long time here — and he’d be all over Fox for days. Geez…
Comment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
At 17?
Nope.
He would have gone to jail (maybe) for one night (we're talking about a white guy with no record, right?) and he would be put on probation, with maybe a fine and some community service.
And manditory rehab of some sort.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:52 pmHistory is pretty clear of what will happen when they are not challenged.
Comment by John Sacks #19
The problem is we are not using enough might.
Comment by John Sacks #23
...If you're not posting from Afghanistan or Iraq...
...then YOU'RE part of the problem...
...keyboard warriors...
...are useless pieces of dogsh*t...
...and how would you know what history shows about..
...what happens when Islam goes "unchallenged"...
...the western imperialist/crusader/colonialist/anti-christofacists...
...haven't left them alone...
...since the 15th Century!
...but then Rush, Ann and Sean didn't tell you about that...
...did they?
June 29th, 2007 at 7:54 pmComment by Mr. President
The dean has to admit, that was quite amusing. That was pretty funny, Mr. P.
You know what, you're my boss, you're the decider, I'll give you what you want. Sigh.
Tenure for Mr. President is GRANTED. You are the most senior member of the faculty in addition to being the President, Mr. President.
I would say that the TOS of this site is the only way your tenure could be revoked, but I wouldn't count on it given your record of getting away with absolutely everything to date (and in the future, of course).
Congratulations, sir.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:56 pmComment by big papa — June 29, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
Typical Islamo-Stalinist.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:58 pmI would say that the TOS of this site is the only way your tenure could be revoked, but I wouldn’t count on it given your record of getting away with absolutely everything to date (and in the future, of course).
Congratulations, sir.
Comment by Office of the Dean of Trolls — June 29, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Thanks,
I accept this honor on behalf of me and my pal Jesus!
Thanks again,
Mr. President †
June 29th, 2007 at 8:00 pmTypical Islamo-Stalinist.
Comment by Mr. President #554
...I take umbrage sir...
...at your reference to my being...
..."Typical"...
June 29th, 2007 at 8:06 pmComment by Mr. President
Say, Mr. President.
Just how do you type that cross sign? The dean could use it as an emblem, if you'd allow.
June 29th, 2007 at 8:10 pmComment by big papa — June 29, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
Unique Islamo-Leninist.
June 29th, 2007 at 8:12 pmDean Troller,
look at these webpages:
http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/characterentities.html
June 29th, 2007 at 8:13 pmhttp://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/characterentities_famsupp_69.html
But for the cross you type this (only all together)
& dagger ;
=
†
June 29th, 2007 at 8:15 pmHe would have gone to jail (maybe) for one night (we’re talking about a white guy with no record, right?) and he would be put on probation, with maybe a fine and some community service.
And manditory rehab of some sort.
Comment by Mr. President
Not here, he wouldn't. Just sayin'