Comments on: Britain’s National Security Experts: Threat of Terrorism Increased As a Result Of War In Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:14:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: doro http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3897020 doro Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:27:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3897020 Big thanks Zooey! UKBD's story was brilliant. Makes me homesick for England again. The Swiss don't have that much sense of humour, though they're quite relaxed when it comes to drugs. Pity I don't take any, I like a good laugh, however. Big thanks Zooey! UKBD’s story was brilliant. Makes me homesick for England again. The Swiss don’t have that much sense of humour, though they’re quite relaxed when it comes to drugs. Pity I don’t take any, I like a good laugh, however.

]]> By: Jen06 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896772 Jen06 Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:01:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896772 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=28944 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=28944

]]> By: JG http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896686 JG Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:58:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896686 I waited all day before writing on this. My first instinct this morning when I heard this story was that it was yet another staged occurence. Too convenient on the heels of VERY bad press and the first day of a new Prime Minister in England who doesn't necessarily support the policies of GW Bush. I didn't write anything because I thought perhaps I was getting too cynical. The bombs in London were discovered but hadn't gone off. Perhaps it was a genuine find. But, it wasn't even clear if they were actually bombs.. Yet it took over ALL the news today. My first thought was "How convenient..". Mind you, I would NEVER want any bombs to go off anywhere and I would never wish anyone harm - ever. But, bombs that DIDN'T go off are now going to direct ALL conversation and news cycles for days. How convenient. The newscaster went nuts. These were the messages: 1. The terrorists are still out there and you still need to be very, very afraid.. 2. They want to kill us for our freedoms 3. That is why we must fight them there so they WON'T come here 4. (and I really heard this said) what happens if the Dems win the WH? Are they strong enough on terror?? The other thing I heard was Keira Phillips on CNN talking about how fortunate there were surveillance cameras posted all over in London so they could study the tapes (or whatever). Then I heard her say something about the need for surveillance in personal residences so that people could feel safer. I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe I heard it wrong (I was in the next room and was only halfways listening), but I don't think so. It was straight out of "1984". Big Brother in every home. Man, was Orwell a creator of a work of fiction? Or, was he a psychic or a prophet? Or, was he giving us a very real warning of what was coming? I am disgusted. People CANNOT sellout their brains and their very souls in order for their government to make them feel safe again. Especially when it is the government, and the newscasters, that are working overtime to make and keep people feeling AFRAID! It is like all of this is scripted! I mean, maybe it really did happen the way they are reporting, but why is it ALWAYS so convenient and incredibly TIMELY!? Again, this wonderful reminder by Olbermann on "The Nexus of Terror": http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/04/olbermann-the-nexus-of-politics-and-terror-2/ Is this possibly set up in order to bring people back into line so they can continue on with this plan? I know this was in London, but GB and the US sure seem connected on all of this stuff.. Oh, and Giuliani wasted NO TIME in jumping on the 'TERROR' bandwagon and spinning it to his advantage... Sick.. I waited all day before writing on this. My first instinct this morning when I heard this story was that it was yet another staged occurence. Too convenient on the heels of VERY bad press and the first day of a new Prime Minister in England who doesn’t necessarily support the policies of GW Bush.
I didn’t write anything because I thought perhaps I was getting too cynical. The bombs in London were discovered but hadn’t gone off. Perhaps it was a genuine find. But, it wasn’t even clear if they were actually bombs.. Yet it took over ALL the news today.
My first thought was “How convenient..”. Mind you, I would NEVER want any bombs to go off anywhere and I would never wish anyone harm – ever. But, bombs that DIDN’T go off are now going to direct ALL conversation and news cycles for days. How convenient.

The newscaster went nuts. These were the messages:

1. The terrorists are still out there and you still need to be very, very afraid..
2. They want to kill us for our freedoms
3. That is why we must fight them there so they WON’T come here
4. (and I really heard this said) what happens if the Dems win the WH? Are they strong enough on terror??

The other thing I heard was Keira Phillips on CNN talking about how fortunate there were surveillance cameras posted all over in London so they could study the tapes (or whatever). Then I heard her say something about the need for surveillance in personal residences so that people could feel safer. I almost fell out of my chair. Maybe I heard it wrong (I was in the next room and was only halfways listening), but I don’t think so. It was straight out of “1984″. Big Brother in every home. Man, was Orwell a creator of a work of fiction? Or, was he a psychic or a prophet? Or, was he giving us a very real warning of what was coming?

I am disgusted.
People CANNOT sellout their brains and their very souls in order for their government to make them feel safe again. Especially when it is the government, and the newscasters, that are working overtime to make and keep people feeling AFRAID!

It is like all of this is scripted! I mean, maybe it really did happen the way they are reporting, but why is it ALWAYS so convenient and incredibly TIMELY!?
Again, this wonderful reminder by Olbermann on
“The Nexus of Terror”:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/04/olbermann-the-nexus-of-politics-and-terror-2/
Is this possibly set up in order to bring people back into line so they can continue on with this plan? I know this was in London, but GB and the US sure seem connected on all of this stuff..

Oh, and Giuliani wasted NO TIME in jumping on the ‘TERROR’ bandwagon and spinning it to his advantage… Sick..

]]> By: Kilo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896602 Kilo Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:15:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896602 <strong>Despite counterterrorism officials having “no prior intelligence information indicating” this attack might be imminent, Britain’s increased risk of “international terrorism” has long been attributed to British involvement in the war in Iraq by numerous national security experts</strong> And in your first post about these bombs being discovered, many of your readers discounted such a suggestion and attributed the plot instead the the British government wanting to blow up it's own citizens. Despite counterterrorism officials having “no prior intelligence information indicating” this attack might be imminent, Britain’s increased risk of “international terrorism” has long been attributed to British involvement in the war in Iraq by numerous national security experts

And in your first post about these bombs being discovered, many of your readers discounted such a suggestion and attributed the plot instead the the British government wanting to blow up it’s own citizens.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896487 Jay Randal Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:24:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896487 Why 578 posts on this thread? The attempted bombing in the UK is a big PR hoax. Nothing happened. No cars exploded. Nobody even knows if the devices were wired properly to explode. Since poodle Blair left as PM a few days ago, then it seems he might be behind it. Why 578 posts on this thread? The attempted bombing in the UK is a big PR hoax. Nothing happened. No cars exploded. Nobody even knows if the devices were wired properly to explode. Since poodle Blair left as PM a few days ago, then it seems he might be behind it.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896397 big papa Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:21:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896397 ...This London thing... ...is this the precursor to... ..."We're NO LONGER fighting 'em over there... ...to keep from fighting 'em over here"? …This London thing…

…is this the precursor to…

…”We’re NO LONGER fighting ‘em over there…

…to keep from fighting ‘em over here”?

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896393 big papa Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:14:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896393 They behead Americans because we are Americans and we love freedom …. Comment by Johnny Swank — June 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm Comment by Mr. President ® hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! ...they behead DUHmericans (and their allies) because... ...you're occupying their "HOUSE"! ...and were the tables turned... ...you'd do the same... ...actually given your Spanish Inquisition/European Dark Ages purge/Slavery genes... ...(ever hear of drawing and quartering?)... ...you'd do... ...WORSE... ...so spare me the faux righteous indignation... ...you white phosphorous cluster bomb loving hypocrites... They behead Americans because we are Americans and we love freedom ….

Comment by Johnny Swank — June 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm

Comment by Mr. President ®

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

…they behead DUHmericans (and their allies) because…

…you’re occupying their “HOUSE”!

…and were the tables turned…

…you’d do the same…

…actually given your Spanish Inquisition/European Dark Ages purge/Slavery genes…

…(ever hear of drawing and quartering?)…

…you’d do…

…WORSE…

…so spare me the faux righteous indignation…

…you white phosphorous cluster bomb loving hypocrites…

]]> By: Mr. President ® http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896371 Mr. President ® Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:41:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896371 …WHO are the terrorists? Comment by big papa — June 29, 2007 @ 8:27 pm Go to www.michaelsavage.com and watch what the fun loving Islamist do to get their point accross. They behead Americans because we are Americans and we love freedom .... Comment by Johnny Swank — June 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm …WHO are the terrorists?

Comment by big papa — June 29, 2007 @ 8:27 pm

Go to http://www.michaelsavage.com and watch what the fun loving Islamist do to get their point accross. They behead Americans because we are Americans and we love freedom ….

Comment by Johnny Swank — June 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896347 Zooey Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:19:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896347 <em>…WHO are the terrorists? Comment by big papa </em> Indeed..... …WHO are the terrorists?
Comment by big papa

Indeed…..

]]> By: CT_V1, Dean of Trolls http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896343 CT_V1, Dean of Trolls Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:15:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896343 Well, Mr. President, I'll be headed home for the evening. I assume you'll have my paycheck ready for me tommorow, right? Until later, I'm Dean CT, the Dean of Trolls at Thinkprogress.org Well, Mr. President, I’ll be headed home for the evening. I assume you’ll have my paycheck ready for me tommorow, right?

Until later, I’m Dean CT, the Dean of Trolls at Thinkprogress.org

]]> By: Mr. President ® http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896319 Mr. President ® Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:57:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896319 Indeed, Dean-o! Indeed, Dean-o!

]]> By: CT_V1, Dean of Trolls http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896306 CT_V1, Dean of Trolls Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:47:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896306 Even the Dean could learn something new, Mr. President. © Even the Dean could learn something new, Mr. President.

©

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896296 Mr. President Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:38:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896296 That it is Dean CT, that it is. That it is Dean CT, that it is.

]]> By: Office of the Dean of Trolls http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896295 Office of the Dean of Trolls Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:37:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896295 Mr. President, It's always good to learn something new. I'll bookmark that site, along with that literature from Bertrand Russell. Mr. President, It’s always good to learn something new. I’ll bookmark that site, along with that literature from Bertrand Russell.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896293 Mr. President Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:36:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896293 Well I guess that ⇑ answers my question. Well I guess that ⇑ answers my question.

]]> By: Office of the Dean of Trolls http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896292 Office of the Dean of Trolls Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:35:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896292 † †

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896291 Mr. President Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:35:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896291 Comment by Office of the Dean of Trolls — June 29, 2007 @ 8:29 pm did you figure it out? CT_V1 © Comment by Office of the Dean of Trolls — June 29, 2007 @ 8:29 pm

did you figure it out?

CT_V1 ©

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896287 Mr. President Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:33:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896287 I’m in Idaho, Mr P. Comment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 8:25 pm I thought you meant "here", as in "the US." I know that you're a "Tater-head," or whatever your teams call themselves!:P I’m in Idaho, Mr P.

Comment by Zooey — June 29, 2007 @ 8:25 pm

I thought you meant “here”, as in “the US.”

I know that you’re a “Tater-head,” or whatever your teams call themselves!:P

]]> By: Office of the Dean of Trolls http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896283 Office of the Dean of Trolls Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:29:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896283 Comment by Zooey That must be a lovely state, dear. Comment by Zooey

That must be a lovely state, dear.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/comment-page-12/#comment-3896282 big papa Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:27:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/british-experts-terror-attack/#comment-3896282 Larry Johnson former CIA counter-terrorism officer... ...on Countdown... ...just laid out some STAGGERING numbers... ...since the 1960's... ...only 50,000 people have been killed by so-called "terrorists"... ...yet crooked mouth facist Barry McAffery (parroting his godsBushiva andL'il Dick)... ...claims that... ..."Islamic terrorism is the greatest threat to civilization"...yada yada yada... ...Bushiva killed that many in a week... ...you do the math... ...then you decide... ...WHO are the terrorists? Larry Johnson former CIA counter-terrorism officer…

…on Countdown…

…just laid out some STAGGERING numbers…

…since the 1960’s…

…only 50,000 people have been killed by so-called “terrorists”…

…yet crooked mouth facist Barry McAffery (parroting his godsBushiva andL’il Dick)…

…claims that…

…”Islamic terrorism is the greatest threat to civilization”…yada yada yada…

…Bushiva killed that many in a week…

…you do the math…

…then you decide…

…WHO are the terrorists?

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