Overwhelming proof that Cheney is in the executive branch.
Overwhelming proof that Cheney is in the executive branch.
The White House has refused to take a position on Dick Cheney’s exemption from President Bush’s executive order, claiming that Cheney has “legislative and executive functions.” Today, GovExec reported several more instances of the White House acknowledging Cheney’s executive branch status:
On April 9, 2003: Cheney lauded a recent court ruling, stating, “I think it restored some of the legitimate authority of the executive branch, the president and the vice president, to be able to conduct their business.
On April 14, 2004: speaking in China, Cheney explained that President Dwight Eisenhower first gave the vice president an office “in the executive branch,” adding “since then the responsibilities have gradually increased.”
In 2001, Bush stated: “[w]e know the difference between the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch, but I do believe the President and the Vice President can play a part, a strong part, in helping advance an American agenda.”
The White House website notes: “To learn more about the executive branch please visit the president’s Cabinet page on the White House web site.” A click on the “Cabinet page” reveals Cheney to be a member of the Cabinet.
The Senate also disagrees with the White House’s ambiguous position. Its website states: “During the twentieth and twenty-first centuries the vice president’s role has evolved into more of an executive branch position, and is usually seen as an integral part of a president’s administration. … He presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions.”
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I'll belong to whatever Branch I want to belong to. I run this show! So F&%K off!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:29 pmCheney and Bush are the new Ambiguously Gay Duo, notthattheresanythingwrongwithtthat.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:29 pmDon't forget every 8th grade history book ever published.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:30 pmAlright already, we all know Cheney is in the Executive branch. It's really a non-argument at this point.
Lets talk about some dumb blonde or something.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:30 pmHEY! LOOK OVER THERE!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:32 pmQuotable: "He firmly believed that everything he did was right, that he ought on all occasions to have his own way -- and like the sting of a wasp or serpent his hatred rushed out armed and poisonous against anything like opposition. He was proud of his hatred as of everything else. Always to be right, always to trample forward, and never to doubt, are not these the great qualities with which dullness takes lead in the world?" - William Makepeace Thackeray, Vanity Fair.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:32 pmWe know that they know that we know that they are part of the Executive Branch.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:33 pmTheir masquerade is over now, time for some serious shit.
awe, I was getting a kick out of called Cheney "Fouthbranch." I guess I'll have to settle for 'asswipe of the millenia' or something.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:36 pmHouse Res 333 to Impeach Cheney has gone through Subcommittee
to the FULL JUDICIARY.
http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=2382
Call all of your reps and say you are in support of impeaching
Cheney. I called every one of my reps in IL today to say I was
supporting his impeachment.
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ (just click on your state)
Call all your representatives!
Today and every day until the rule of law is returned to this
June 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pmcountry!
RESPECT MA AUTHOR-IT-TIE!!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pm"FOURTHBRANCH"...
is that like "fourthmeal"??
June 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pmComments by Dick Cheney #1..You da man!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pmLook at Senate.gov.....the front page states that the VP is an integral part of the executive branch. Sheesh !
June 29th, 2007 at 4:40 pmPAY ATTENTION TO MSJOANNE-CALL-I DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:40 pmFourthbranch sounds like a new Taco Bell slogan.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:41 pmCome on...this story is hilarious. Plus it's Friday and Cheney IS a dumb blond.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:41 pmwho's more foolish? the one who makes the silly assertion or the one that relentlessly tries to validate it?
June 29th, 2007 at 4:42 pmthis is ridiculous, no one sane thinks otherwise. Why are you even showing these stupid quotes, the constitution shows it clearly. Art. 2, Sec. 1.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:43 pmBryce - It's extremely important to the security of the United States that we spend the rest of the day drinking beer and laughing at what an idiot the VP is.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:46 pm"Overwhelming proof that Cheney is in the executive branch."???
WTF TP!!!
Article II
Section 1
Clause 1
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years,8 and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:
that is all the "proof" that is needed!!!!!
minchia!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 4:54 pmSorry, but that's not "overwhelming proof that Cheney is in the executive branch." It is certainly overwhelming proof that he has contradicted himself, but Cheney lying is not breaking news. I mean, the logic here is asinine: if a statement by Cheney is proof-positive of something then why did you challenge his assertion that he was not part of the executive branch when he made that statement? The notion that he is not in the executive branch has an equal foundation in truth, or lack thereof (a statement by Cheney), but in this case his statement is used to "overwhelmingly prove" that he is in the executive branch. Just another example of Think Progress playing the "gotcha game" ... it's probably about time you took the word "Progress" out of your name, because the petty gotcha's really accomplish nothing. I don't know about you, but parsing words and "getting" someone for an inconsistent statement hardly accomplishes progress.
Egan, out.
June 29th, 2007 at 4:55 pmSTOP TRYING TO PROVE THIS.... USE YOUR TIME FOR MORE CONSTRUCTIVE THINGS... IF CHENEY SAYS THE SKY IS NOT BLUE... ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT FOR DAYS....
June 29th, 2007 at 4:59 pmwow TP sucks these past days, whats up here?
cheney, paris, faux noize.... WTF?
June 29th, 2007 at 5:02 pmJust impeach Darth Dicky Cheney and be done with him!
June 29th, 2007 at 5:09 pmAll this "proof" is unnecessary.
Any American who attended grade school in the US knows the Vice President is a member of the Executive Branch of the government.
June 29th, 2007 at 5:34 pmTechnically:
"I did not have sex with that woman..."
Bill Clinton is "right" because he can claim to define sex as penis to vagina penetration only, and exclude oral, anal, and masturbation.
Technically:
"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years,8 and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows..."
Dick Cheney is "right" because he can claim to define the and as being connected with the second sentence pertaining to term, and not the first sentence pertaining to Executive power.
Of course people only drag out these "technical" definitions when the feces is about to hit the fan!
June 29th, 2007 at 6:08 pmAgain... where is Jake, with all his usual talking points nonsense?
June 29th, 2007 at 7:07 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 7:11 pmAnybody can visit the White House's own web site and read by themselves that:
The tradition of the Cabinet dates back to the beginnings of the Presidency itself. [...]
The Cabinet includes the Vice President and the heads of 15 executive departments-the Secretaries of Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services,[...]
The White House: President Bush's Cabinet
So, according to the VP Cheney -and his braindead sycophants on this board- he is part of Pres Bush's cabinet, but not of the Executive branch? Who do they think they're fooling? Oh, right, the 40%ers who believe Iraq's WMD were found...
June 29th, 2007 at 7:15 pmBREAKING: I just discovered that Cheney is a member of the rather hefty floater that just landed in the toilet. Mystery solved.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:21 pm...has he been served?
...or indicted?
June 29th, 2007 at 7:35 pmother than the shear audacity of the notion,
June 29th, 2007 at 8:34 pmthose in the senate were elected by their constituents
in their particular state...
no one elected cheney with that in mind...
...
“During the twentieth and twenty-first centuries the vice president’s role has evolved into more of an executive branch position, and is usually seen as an integral part of a president’s administration. … He presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions.â€
Gawd damnit that sounds like POLITCAL EVOLUTION!!!
This must be stopped NOW!! We need Intelligent Design and this VP and GW Botch ain't working out.
Congress needs to pass legislation that clearly places the USELESS VP DICK(HEAD) CHENEY in the Senate and nothing more. Remove the office of VP from the Executive!!
You know, just a Useless VP Figure(dick)head as he should have been all along.
IMPEACH THIS BASTARD!!!
June 29th, 2007 at 10:02 pmJesus Fuc%ing Chr!st!! Is this still going on??? The VP is in the executive branch. Any damn sophemore in high school taking civics can tell you that. Suddenly, we are supposed to question this??? Because Cheney says so???
June 30th, 2007 at 1:29 amThis whole BS about the VP's being part of the Executive Branch is very easily solved (for anyone with half a brain, at least). Just consider HOW the Vice-President gets his job. The PRESIDENTIAL nominee of the party (Democratic, Republican, Libertarian, Universal Galactic Peace) SELECTS the Vice-President as his RUNNING MATE. Then, on Election Day, the ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes for a President AND Vice-President.
June 30th, 2007 at 2:35 amIf the Vice-President is to be separate from the President, then he (or she) should be elected separately by the People. Technically, the Electoral College *could* vote for a Republican President and a Democratic Vice-President, or vice versa, but it's highly unlikely that would ever happen. However, in most states, the election ballots are printed to feature the Party's Presidential and Vice-Presidential nominees as a single entity (other electronic systems similarly list each party's Pres and Veep candidates on one line) so that when one picks a particular party's Presidential candidate, one gets that party's Vice-Presidential candidate as well.
more time wasted on something that was known since 5th grade.
June 30th, 2007 at 8:59 amSo, I'm confused, is Bush Cheney's Evita?
June 30th, 2007 at 9:31 amJust like the Hamdan case the administration will draw lines in the sand until they're challenged in court and then they back off, but still maintain the power stretch they have extracted. The question is; would a split government scenario with a Democrat in the White HOuse and congress having a majority of Republicans allow these power grabs to continue?
June 30th, 2007 at 10:39 amOf course Sauron belongs to the executive. Why is this even a debate?
June 30th, 2007 at 12:28 pmCheney is out of control.
June 30th, 2007 at 1:35 pmIf the Vice President is solely and "clearly" in the Executive Branch, please identify ONE Constitutionally vested Executive power?
June 30th, 2007 at 3:47 pmI'm sorry I couldn't come out and play yesterday -- I can tell you missed me.
June 30th, 2007 at 3:50 pmOf course Cheney's in the executive branch. This discussion only serves to make the implausablel, plausable.
July 1st, 2007 at 2:21 am