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		<title>By: FDR</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3897841</link>
		<dc:creator>FDR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is FUNNY . I am sure that all of you Liberals would have no problem pointing out the Terrorist for the whole 2 minutes that you would stay alive over in Iraq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is FUNNY . I am sure that all of you Liberals would have no problem pointing out the Terrorist for the whole 2 minutes that you would stay alive over in Iraq<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3897841', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ryogam</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3897684</link>
		<dc:creator>ryogam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killing the &quot;wrong&quot; people, a.k.a,  killing innocents, a.k.a., killing possible allies, a.k.a., causing possible allies and neutrals to flock to the banner of the enemy, a.k.a., cutting off your nose to spite your face, a.k.a., piss-poor tactics.   And people fail to see this, why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killing the &#8220;wrong&#8221; people, a.k.a,  killing innocents, a.k.a., killing possible allies, a.k.a., causing possible allies and neutrals to flock to the banner of the enemy, a.k.a., cutting off your nose to spite your face, a.k.a., piss-poor tactics.   And people fail to see this, why?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3897684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lower tiberius</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3897041</link>
		<dc:creator>lower tiberius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let me get this straight ... Bush gets home from church and tells his mum and dad he&#039;s headed out to the stall to feed his pet goat, but his folks say No!, not until he&#039;s changed his sunday school clothes and written in his project book as instructed on that days lessons discussed about the nature of forming bad habits such as substance abuse and compulsion addiction. He reluctantly agrees with, &quot;oh shucks ... okay&quot;, and with an odd look in his eyes disappears into his room where he opens the composition book past that day&#039;s notes and slowly tears a blank page out and slips it into his slacks&#039; pocket. He removes his tie and tosses it into the closet where it falls to the floor and closes the door on which is a full length mirror. He hesitates to assess the clothing, sans the tie, and the features of his face, then grins broadly and makes for the rear screen door out to the back porch.  Leaping the last few stair steps, he trots to the the back of the barn against which,  lean things he recognizes as implements but of which he has no knowledge of their workings. In a matted area of thatch is the generous evidence of a recent visiting racoon who&#039;s done his business and then been on his way. He grins broadly again and stomps in it&#039;s center leaving the deep imprint of his crisp dress shoes. For reasons only he would, but may not be aware of,  he slides his hand into his pocket and pulls out the blank page torn from the sunday studies composition book, folding over and again until it&#039;s not possible to continue to do so, then places it in the center of the heel print at it&#039;s deepest part. He steps back, views this momentarily,  then steps forward and stomps at the pile driving the remaining mound over the paper and footprint. He smiles again and turns toward the house loosing and losing the shoe to the sticky muck and considers bending to remove it but instead hops a few feet toward the house then gives up and just walks in an uneven gait one shoe, one sock to the back porch where he&#039;s met by his parents who are by this time changed and seated comfortably on the porch, when they immediately admonish him for not being changed and ask about his sunday school lessons to which he assures them he&#039;s seen to them as advised. His mother demands he go in the house and change and remain in his room for the remainder of the day. He cringes past both and near gleefully tromps down the hall and enters his room where he lays out on the bed still one shoe, one soggy sock and pulls the phone from the nightstand. As he dials he can imagine variations of what will be said, and as the receiver is answered on the other end he responds to hello with, &quot;I need you to help me get my shoe back&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let me get this straight &#8230; Bush gets home from church and tells his mum and dad he&#8217;s headed out to the stall to feed his pet goat, but his folks say No!, not until he&#8217;s changed his sunday school clothes and written in his project book as instructed on that days lessons discussed about the nature of forming bad habits such as substance abuse and compulsion addiction. He reluctantly agrees with, &#8220;oh shucks &#8230; okay&#8221;, and with an odd look in his eyes disappears into his room where he opens the composition book past that day&#8217;s notes and slowly tears a blank page out and slips it into his slacks&#8217; pocket. He removes his tie and tosses it into the closet where it falls to the floor and closes the door on which is a full length mirror. He hesitates to assess the clothing, sans the tie, and the features of his face, then grins broadly and makes for the rear screen door out to the back porch.  Leaping the last few stair steps, he trots to the the back of the barn against which,  lean things he recognizes as implements but of which he has no knowledge of their workings. In a matted area of thatch is the generous evidence of a recent visiting racoon who&#8217;s done his business and then been on his way. He grins broadly again and stomps in it&#8217;s center leaving the deep imprint of his crisp dress shoes. For reasons only he would, but may not be aware of,  he slides his hand into his pocket and pulls out the blank page torn from the sunday studies composition book, folding over and again until it&#8217;s not possible to continue to do so, then places it in the center of the heel print at it&#8217;s deepest part. He steps back, views this momentarily,  then steps forward and stomps at the pile driving the remaining mound over the paper and footprint. He smiles again and turns toward the house loosing and losing the shoe to the sticky muck and considers bending to remove it but instead hops a few feet toward the house then gives up and just walks in an uneven gait one shoe, one sock to the back porch where he&#8217;s met by his parents who are by this time changed and seated comfortably on the porch, when they immediately admonish him for not being changed and ask about his sunday school lessons to which he assures them he&#8217;s seen to them as advised. His mother demands he go in the house and change and remain in his room for the remainder of the day. He cringes past both and near gleefully tromps down the hall and enters his room where he lays out on the bed still one shoe, one soggy sock and pulls the phone from the nightstand. As he dials he can imagine variations of what will be said, and as the receiver is answered on the other end he responds to hello with, &#8220;I need you to help me get my shoe back&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3897041', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3896470</link>
		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86

Why do you hate our system of justice?</description>
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<p>Why do you hate our system of justice?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896470', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3896418</link>
		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>m12 celebrates the wrongfully convicted being put to death.  

Do we need any further proof of what this troll is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m12 celebrates the wrongfully convicted being put to death.  </p>
<p>Do we need any further proof of what this troll is?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896418', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3896407</link>
		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;anyone have the stats on how many people GWB oversaw the execution of when he was gov. of Texasâ€¦ beter yet an estimate on how many were wrongfully convicted?&lt;/i&gt;

Not enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>anyone have the stats on how many people GWB oversaw the execution of when he was gov. of Texasâ€¦ beter yet an estimate on how many were wrongfully convicted?</i></p>
<p>Not enough!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896407', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3896405</link>
		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, why did we kill 3 million Japanese? Why not just dance in a circle and sing Kumbayah, that will stop the Muslim invaders!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, why did we kill 3 million Japanese? Why not just dance in a circle and sing Kumbayah, that will stop the Muslim invaders!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896405', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What have we become?

Comment by katie #81

...no offense but...

...obviously you&#039;re not too well versed in...

...World History...</description>
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<p>Comment by katie #81</p>
<p>&#8230;no offense but&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;obviously you&#8217;re not too well versed in&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;World History&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896221', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3896159</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€˜kill the right peopleâ€™â€¦

and they are:?

...Bush, Cheney, and Rove?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€˜kill the right peopleâ€™â€¦</p>
<p>and they are:?</p>
<p>&#8230;Bush, Cheney, and Rove?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896159', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895961</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, they are no longer a &quot;giant killing machine&quot;.  They are now a &quot;mini killing machine&quot;.  Killing is killing.  Why do we love to kill people?  What have we become?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, they are no longer a &#8220;giant killing machine&#8221;.  They are now a &#8220;mini killing machine&#8221;.  Killing is killing.  Why do we love to kill people?  What have we become?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895961', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kaye2</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895888</link>
		<dc:creator>kaye2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you have to kill someone, then for Godâ€™s sakes, kill the right people&quot;

and heaven forbid, don&#039;t get 3500+ Americans killed by invading a soveign nation that has nothing to do with 9/11.&quot; --  oops</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you have to kill someone, then for Godâ€™s sakes, kill the right people&#8221;</p>
<p>and heaven forbid, don&#8217;t get 3500+ Americans killed by invading a soveign nation that has nothing to do with 9/11.&#8221; &#8212;  oops<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895888', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895799</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tubino

 don&#039;t forget the British in the pass in Afganistan</description>
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<p> don&#8217;t forget the British in the pass in Afganistan<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895799', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895789</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wait there is that no good lilly livered liberal Chuck Hagel , or was it John Warner, these dirty red coats or are the blue aaarrrrghhh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait there is that no good lilly livered liberal Chuck Hagel , or was it John Warner, these dirty red coats or are the blue aaarrrrghhh<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895789', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tubino</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895784</link>
		<dc:creator>tubino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sounds like the best of the best will be handing out flowers again. I am sure that will persuade the terrorists to change their mind.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. Sounds like civilian leadership is okaying the murder of the wrong people. I&#039;m sure that will persuade their relatives to vow allegiance to the US.

Just as the Russians proved in Afghanistan, there&#039;s nothing like occupying a country to win their love and affection.  And make no mistake, the US is not fighting a war, it&#039;s supporting an occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sounds like the best of the best will be handing out flowers again. I am sure that will persuade the terrorists to change their mind.</p></blockquote>
<p>No. Sounds like civilian leadership is okaying the murder of the wrong people. I&#8217;m sure that will persuade their relatives to vow allegiance to the US.</p>
<p>Just as the Russians proved in Afghanistan, there&#8217;s nothing like occupying a country to win their love and affection.  And make no mistake, the US is not fighting a war, it&#8217;s supporting an occupation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895784', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895777</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now don&#039;t forget what a bad guy Max Cleland is, he is just hiding his traitor sympathies behind all of his arms and legs

 sorry Max but I am sure you understand the sarcasm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now don&#8217;t forget what a bad guy Max Cleland is, he is just hiding his traitor sympathies behind all of his arms and legs</p>
<p> sorry Max but I am sure you understand the sarcasm<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895777', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895763</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>attack the warriors, the defenders of our nation when they speak out against a bad policy and poor leadership, soon the kings troops will be bunking in your house and you will be on the street scrounging rat meat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>attack the warriors, the defenders of our nation when they speak out against a bad policy and poor leadership, soon the kings troops will be bunking in your house and you will be on the street scrounging rat meat<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895763', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/29/special-ops-no-longer-a-giant-killing-machine/comment-page-2/#comment-3895752</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn runaway Jason Bourne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn runaway Jason Bourne.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895752', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gregor


   keep it up, positions like yours are what led to the end of McCarthyism and the demise of the John Birch Society</description>
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<p>   keep it up, positions like yours are what led to the end of McCarthyism and the demise of the John Birch Society<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895744', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Glen Tomkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Tomkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;kill the right people&quot;

We will never know the &quot;right&quot; people to kill, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, or anywhere else.

Think about it.  Leave aside for a second the problems of actual execution (literally), the whole premise of so-called counter-insurgency operations is that we could somehow know who to execute to make Iraq and Afghanistan functioning democracies.  Does this premise make it through even a first pass common sense test?  

Do you imagine that we have, or ever could have, intelligence analysts who understand Iraq or Afghanistan better than folks who&#039;ve lived there their whole lives, actual Iraqis and Afghanis?  If you sensibly answer &quot;no&quot;, then ask yourself whether or not you, or any other US citizen off the street, could reasonably be entrusted to know which of our fellow citizens need to be executed to improve the political climate in the US.  If you, again sensibly, don&#039;t think American democracy would be improved by anyone, no matter how wise and discerning, being entrusted with deciding which Americans are a threat to democracy and should be executed, why do you think even the wisest and most discerning of us on the subject of Iraqi and Afghanistani politics would ever &quot;know who to kill&quot; in those societies?

Ask any war supporter, and even many of those who think we shouldn&#039;t be in Iraq, or even Afghanistan, and they will tell you that the folks we need to kill are the &quot;bad guys&quot;.  Now, use of this term is ipso facto proof that the speaker has no idea who to kill, since &quot;bad guys&quot; is recognized shorthand for &quot;them what needs killin&#039;&quot;, so we are in the presence of circular reasoning when this term is used.  But I guess they would tell you that they mean by this folks in these countries who are against our occupation, since the unthinking assumption is that no one without ulterior motives in these countries could possibly object to our presence.  But polling shows that overwhelming majorities in both countries want us out yesterday.  The Admiral is wasting his breath.  Kill anyone in these socities -- man, woman or child -- and you&#039;ve probably killed the &quot;right&quot; people.  At least according to an irredeemably wrong basic approach to the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;kill the right people&#8221;</p>
<p>We will never know the &#8220;right&#8221; people to kill, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, or anywhere else.</p>
<p>Think about it.  Leave aside for a second the problems of actual execution (literally), the whole premise of so-called counter-insurgency operations is that we could somehow know who to execute to make Iraq and Afghanistan functioning democracies.  Does this premise make it through even a first pass common sense test?  </p>
<p>Do you imagine that we have, or ever could have, intelligence analysts who understand Iraq or Afghanistan better than folks who&#8217;ve lived there their whole lives, actual Iraqis and Afghanis?  If you sensibly answer &#8220;no&#8221;, then ask yourself whether or not you, or any other US citizen off the street, could reasonably be entrusted to know which of our fellow citizens need to be executed to improve the political climate in the US.  If you, again sensibly, don&#8217;t think American democracy would be improved by anyone, no matter how wise and discerning, being entrusted with deciding which Americans are a threat to democracy and should be executed, why do you think even the wisest and most discerning of us on the subject of Iraqi and Afghanistani politics would ever &#8220;know who to kill&#8221; in those societies?</p>
<p>Ask any war supporter, and even many of those who think we shouldn&#8217;t be in Iraq, or even Afghanistan, and they will tell you that the folks we need to kill are the &#8220;bad guys&#8221;.  Now, use of this term is ipso facto proof that the speaker has no idea who to kill, since &#8220;bad guys&#8221; is recognized shorthand for &#8220;them what needs killin&#8217;&#8221;, so we are in the presence of circular reasoning when this term is used.  But I guess they would tell you that they mean by this folks in these countries who are against our occupation, since the unthinking assumption is that no one without ulterior motives in these countries could possibly object to our presence.  But polling shows that overwhelming majorities in both countries want us out yesterday.  The Admiral is wasting his breath.  Kill anyone in these socities &#8212; man, woman or child &#8212; and you&#8217;ve probably killed the &#8220;right&#8221; people.  At least according to an irredeemably wrong basic approach to the world.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895735', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is rubbish, a slander on our men of strength, resolve and impeccable and unimpeachable ability to distinguish the &#039;right&#039; people to kill from the innocent ones.

Sadly this Colonel has been brainwashed by liberal, ant-Rumsfeld and, therefore, anti-American propagandists of the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rubbish, a slander on our men of strength, resolve and impeccable and unimpeachable ability to distinguish the &#8216;right&#8217; people to kill from the innocent ones.</p>
<p>Sadly this Colonel has been brainwashed by liberal, ant-Rumsfeld and, therefore, anti-American propagandists of the left.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3895727', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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