Klein: Shopkeepers In McCain’s Baghdad Market Are All Supporters Of Al-Sadr
Klein: Shopkeepers In McCain’s Baghdad Market Are All Supporters Of Al-Sadr
In April, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) made a heavily-publicized trip to Baghdad as part of an effort to prove that Americans were “not getting the full picture” of what was going on Iraq. During the trip, McCain was escorted through a Baghdad market with 100 soldiers, 3 Blackhawk helicopters, and 2 Apache gunships.
On NBC’s Chris Matthews Show this morning, Time magazine columnist Joe Klein described his own recent trip to the same market.
“I took the John McCain Shorga market walk in Baghdad three or four days ago,” said Klein. “And I talked to the shop keepers, and you know what? All the shopkeepers there are supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr.” Watch it:
Al-Sadr, whose role in Iraq McCain has misunderstood in the past, has repeatedly called on Iraqis to attack American soldiers. The most recent National Intelligence Estimate for Iraq described him as one of the “very effective accelerators” of Iraq’s civil war. The fact that ordinary shopkeepers in Iraq are strongly supportive of Sadr’s efforts underscores the widespread resistance to the U.S. military presence.
McCain will be in Iraq again on Monday, though his shopping plans are unknown.
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Yes, but did Klein realize the rug merchant that Graham purchased his 5 rugs for 5 bucks was murdered.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:23 pmI predict that in five years, nobody will remember this typically thoughtless comment by a man who knows nothing about middle east politics
July 1st, 2007 at 12:25 pmOf course!
McCain isn’t fooling anyone but the 20%ers…
July 1st, 2007 at 12:26 pmpropaganda. pure and simple. does anyone believe these war cheerleaders anymore?
The greatest terrorists in the world, in my opinion, are those that invade countries, drive millions from their homes and kill hundreds of thousands of innocents….
hmm. i wonder who might be doing that??
We need to turn this militarism around – before it destroys us.
Some reading:
July 1st, 2007 at 12:27 pm“Is Imperial Liquidation Possible for America?”
http://www.populistamerica.com/is_imperial_liquidation_possible_for_america
The baghdad market is safer to walk around in than Chicago.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pmIf McCain is shot on his little walk tomorrow, that will be all BushCo needs to stay in Iraq, send in thousands more troops, and step up his illegal maneuverings at home.
*Disclaimer
July 1st, 2007 at 12:37 pmI’m not advocating McCain being shot, for f*ck’s sake.
Asking Joke Klein about anything having to do with Iraq and/or foreign policy , is akin to asking President Cuckoo Bananas to be a judge in an oratorical contest ………..
July 1st, 2007 at 12:40 pmOhmigod! Zooey wants McCain to be shot! Typical Idaho liberal!
July 1st, 2007 at 12:41 pm#5 which certainly doesn’t say very much for markets in the United States, does it?
This is another “dead end charade” by a guy who invented the word “sleeze”. This visit is sure to tank his flaggingly pathetic campaign once and for all.
Publicity stunt, pure and simple….but one which will only yield him to be at the bottom of the heap of rotting human flesh called the Republiturd Candidates.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pmWhile he’s at it, he can bring back some of the fabulous rugs he loves so much…..ever wonder why McInsane is so fixated on “rugs”….well, just take a gander at the top of his head: The new McCain Snowdome!
July 1st, 2007 at 12:45 pmgummitch > are you in military intelligence, or the CIA, or other agency? Your actions on here denote an operative of some sort.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:45 pmThe “most daunting prediction prediction ever” on the Chris Matthews show.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pmWe are not and will never be greeted as liberators in IRAQ.
Wow, Who’da seen that one coming.
OT – sorry – but I am annoyed by the pundits who continue to refer to Hillary Clinton as Mrs. Clinton rather than Senator Clinton, preferring to refer to her as an adjunct to her husband, rather than in her own right.
I just heard it again this morning.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:47 pmI hear it more and more frequently from many pundits and I am not even a big Hillary fan, but I think it diminishes her.
Too bad Joe Loserwhore didn’t get shot in Baghdad.
He’s better off dead to this country.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:49 pmZooey gave a disclaimer that she does NOT advocate McCain being shot.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pm“The baghdad market is safer to walk around in than Chicago.”
Typical Repuke bullshit.
McCain or Joe Loserman don’t need flak jackets, helicopter gunships or a platoon of troops to walk around Chicago. Not even the South Side.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:52 pmJoe Klein’s comment should come as no surprise to any informed American. Many if not most Iraqis support Al-Sadr and his desire for Iraqis to attack American soldiers. To risk pointing out the obvious, the same thing would occur in this country if a foreign country occupied the United States and a popular figure in the U.S. urged its citizens to resist and fight against the invading power. That is what the Iraqis are doing and will continue to do as long as the United States continues to foolishly and stupidly occupy their country. But the word empathy always seems to be in short supply among the American populace.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:52 pmgummitch > are you in military intelligence, or the CIA, or other agency? Your actions on here denote an operative of some sort.
Comment by Jay Randal
You need to have your paranoia checked out.
Zooey has actually met me and recognizes a joke when she sees it. Ask her directly if I’m an operative and then get some help!
July 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pmI want to make love to Zooey.
July 1st, 2007 at 12:59 pm“McCain or Joe Loserman don’t need flak jackets, helicopter gunships or a platoon of troops to walk around Chicago.”
They don’t need them in Iraq either.
Anybody walking around Chicago should be wearing a flak jacket.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pmYou’re not paranoid if they really ARE out to get you.
The fascist Chimpy Regime really IS out to get you.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pmLOL gummitch > you need help, because you are a jerk on here and your remark about Zooey was NOT a joke.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:01 pm“Anybody walking around Chicago should be wearing a flak jacket.”
Why do you hate America?
July 1st, 2007 at 1:03 pm“The fascist Chimpy Regime really IS out to get you.”
Tom3 has his tinfoil hat on again. What a nut!
July 1st, 2007 at 1:03 pmI will let Zooey defend herself. If she thinks it is OK for your post 8, then I will say nothing more about it.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pm“McCain or Joe Loserman don’t need flak jackets, helicopter gunships or a platoon of troops to walk around Chicago.â€
They don’t need them in Iraq either.
Anybody walking around Chicago should be wearing a flak jacket.
Comment by Howard Bean — July 1, 2007
If Frankenstein McLame and Loserman don’t need flak jackets , how about suggesting to our troops that they not wear them either ….See what happens then , stupid ass.
They’ll tell you to go take a flying crap on the moon……..
July 1st, 2007 at 1:09 pm“If Frankenstein McLame and Loserman don’t need flak jackets , how about suggesting to our troops that they not wear them either ….See what happens then , stupid ass.”
Why don’t you suggest to the police in Chicago not to wear bullet proof vests or other protective gear. See what happens.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:11 pm#24
Paraphrase: ‘Tom 3 is a nut with a tinfoil hat’
That’s either a big nut, a small hat, or a crappy metaphor.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pmWhat can I say, I have huge nuts. I have to cover them up with a hat when i go sunbathing! LOL!
July 1st, 2007 at 1:16 pm“If Frankenstein McLame and Loserman don’t need flak jackets , how about suggesting to our troops that they not wear them either ….See what happens then , stupid ass.â€
Why don’t you suggest to the police in Chicago not to wear bullet proof vests or other protective gear. See what happens.
Comment by Howard Bean — July 1, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
Because I’m not the one that originally suggested something so monumentally stupid as you did ……………..
July 1st, 2007 at 1:18 pmStupid inbred Repuke troll says McCain doesn’t need a platoon and a flak jacket in Baghdad.
Good, he can go all alone next time and get his fool head blown off.
The US would be better off without Insane McCain anyway.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:19 pmMaybe the troll can visit Baghdad and get his fool head blown off too.
That would improve things around here.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:21 pmReinterpretation of #24 in the light of #29
#19 ‘I want to make love to Zooey’ does not express H.B.’s true feelings.
#24 does express his true feelings. what it really says is ‘I want to take off Tom3’s tinfoil hat and get a peek at his nuts
July 1st, 2007 at 1:23 pmsame in basra all Sadr supporters
Ill predict even further the next president of Iraq will be sadr
July 1st, 2007 at 1:24 pmEven in Basra they welcome you with
“welcome to tehran”
July 1st, 2007 at 1:27 pmOHMYGAWD!!!
SHOULD I CHANGE MY PLANS???
i’m taking the train to chicago on the 4th, to eat LOTS of food at TASTE,
and see JOHN MAYER at a free concert at GRANT PARK, and walk around
the MAGNIFICANT MILE for 2 whole days!!!
gee, i hope i survive to make the train trip home on friday…
if you don’t hear from me after friday, my best regards to all…
July 1st, 2007 at 1:28 pm…
I will let Zooey defend herself. If she thinks it is OK for your post 8, then I will say nothing more about it.
Comment by Jay Randal
It’s a joke, Jay. I’ve met gummitch, and he’s a fine gentleman. He didn’t say he wasn’t in the CIA, but it never really came up. :D
July 1st, 2007 at 1:30 pmIraq is a disaster. Only the brainwashed Repuke idiots don’t see that obvious fact.
They’d rather live in their psychotic make-believe Bizarro World than face reality.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:32 pmI have to cover them up with a hat when i go sunbathing! LOL!
Comment by Tom3 — July 1, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
i wish i knew how to post a picture i have of a postcard on my aunt’s
refirgerator (which was sent by her daughter)…
i just might have a picture of you!
=]
July 1st, 2007 at 1:32 pmSpeaking of that ball of love, Chris Matthews, here is what he said on 4/9/03
“We’re all neocons now”
July 1st, 2007 at 1:34 pmOK Zooey thanks. If you have no problem with post 8, then so be it. It appeared to be an attack on you. Usually not a good idea to meet someone from TP threads, but that is your choice. I have known a couple of CIA agents in my time and they could be your next door neighbor.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:35 pmif you don’t hear from me after friday, my best regards to all…
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Comment by katy
Deep dish pizza. Italian beef sandwiches. Vienna Beef hotdogs with all the good Chicago fixings. Resi’s Bierstube. The Hopleaf. The Map Room. What is it about Chicago and food?
I never wore a flak jacket and a helmet, though. I guess I was taking my life in my hands.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pmSo when is the administration just going to come out and say there is no difference between Sunni Muslims , Iran and AL Qualude?
July 1st, 2007 at 1:41 pmWhat can I say, I have huge nuts. I have to cover them up with a hat when i go sunbathing! LOL!
Comment by Tom3 — July 1, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
Great visual! LOL
July 1st, 2007 at 1:42 pmBut…
Oh dear, wouldn’t they get in the way of… And by comparison wouldn’t that make other things much smaller?
I’d suggest McCain shop for a clue.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:47 pm“McCain will be in Iraq again on Monday, though his shopping plans are unknown.”
This time those incompetent photographers will get right! There better not be any pictures of helicopters or troops in view. And he will be wearing the flak jacket under his t-shirt.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:47 pmAmerica has to stop acting as if it’s one side of this fight. It isn’t. It’s the interloper who seems unable to take sides and so finds itself caught in the middle. It’s not America’s war.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:49 pmOnce he’s found a clue, he can shop for some credibility…and his manhood chimpy took from him in 2000.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:54 pmMerlin > I am sure that McCain purchased a super expensive kevlar vest that he can wear under his t-shirt and blue workshirt that the press will not notice. The troops will be told to try to hide on the rooftops out of view of the press photographers.
July 1st, 2007 at 1:55 pm#30 Why don’t you suggest to the police in Chicago not to wear bullet proof vests or other protective gear. See what happens.
Comment by Howard Bean
EHHH, Howard, How many 1,000’s of people have been killed by IEDs and snipers how many 100,000’s of people have fled Chicago from the violence in the past 5 years?
Let me know when you have the answers.
July 1st, 2007 at 2:24 pmHow DARE those towel-headed terrorists selling rugs in the market, how DARE those ingrateful native Iraqis have ANYTHING but the grandest graditude and respect for McCain? They should be groveling, kissing his fingers, his hands, even his feet, and why not, his ass, for bring wonderful democracy and peace to THEIR country.
I swear, you just can’t get respect anymore.
July 1st, 2007 at 2:43 pmOK Zooey thanks. If you have no problem with post 8, then so be it. It appeared to be an attack on you. Usually not a good idea to meet someone from TP threads, but that is your choice. I have known a couple of CIA agents in my time and they could be your next door neighbor.
Comment by Jay Randal
Thanks Jay, I can handle myself.
July 1st, 2007 at 2:45 pmDeep dish pizza. Italian beef sandwiches. Vienna Beef hotdogs with all the good Chicago fixings. Resi’s Bierstube. The Hopleaf. The Map Room. What is it about Chicago and food?
Comment by gummitch — July 1, 2007 @ 1:37 pm
ahh… mouth is watering already…
July 1st, 2007 at 2:54 pmi’ve take note of your list… hope they have booths at TASTE…
if not, i’ll have to check out those places another time…
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Parsing #51
How DARE
capital letters. someone is very angry. Perhaps the rage is a defense mechanism to prevent author of #51 from confronting something he/she doesn’t want to confront
those towel-headed terrorists
racist stereotype + unsupported generalization – and all in the space of 4 words!
selling rugs in the market
Why would terrorists be selling rugs in the market? What place is this? Suicide mart?
how DARE those ingrateful native Iraqis
‘ungrateful’ was the term sought for here. precisely what they are supposed to be grateful for, is not mentioned by author of #51.
Why ‘native’ Iraqis? What other sort are there? Author of #51 doesn’t say.
have ANYTHING but the grandest graditude and respect for McCain? They should be groveling, kissing his fingers, his hands, even his feet,
That’s taking it a bit far isn’t it? I have gratitude for many people, but I don’t kiss their hands and fingers all the time
and why not, his ass
At this point, I’m beginning to suspect that author of #51 associates certain sorts of sexual activity with degradation and humiliation. Perhaps author of #51 is repressed homosexual?
for bring wonderful democracy and peace to THEIR country.
Interesting, who would dispute whose country it actually was?
I swear, you just can’t get respect anymore.
July 1st, 2007 at 3:21 pmWell, not by posting infantile rants, it seems.
OHMYGAWD!!!
SHOULD I CHANGE MY PLANS???
i’m taking the train to chicago on the 4th, to eat LOTS of food at TASTE,
and see JOHN MAYER at a free concert at GRANT PARK, and walk around
the MAGNIFICANT MILE for 2 whole days!!!
gee, i hope i survive to make the train trip home on friday…
if you don’t hear from me after friday, my best regards to all…
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Comment by katy
I’m so totally jealous right now, katy. Take pictures of ALL the food before you eat it!
If the terrorists get you, we will miss you so much, but you will die happy. :D
HAVE A GREAT TIME!!
July 1st, 2007 at 3:23 pmComment by Juan Kerr — July 1, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Who hired you as “Commenter Critic,” WanKer?
Get over yourself.
July 1st, 2007 at 3:37 pmSorry to hear about the rug merchant murdered that’s what happens when you talk to the enemy.
McCain is only in Iraq for a fund raising event. He isn’t getting any money from the US so he’s going to Iraq to win the hearts and minds of the people and get some of the money the US is giving them. Look the Iraq people are doing great with the hand outs the White House is giving them. We kill innocent woman and children and the family is given 2,500 dollars for each person we kill. The tribe leaders are given alot of money to tell our troops who is the terrorist and where they are. Some people notice all the info is false but we still keep paying. The US has built an Embassy and swimming pools and the best of everything. It’s like a resort area and we pay the Iraq people big time. Look at the unemployment rate in the US and the outsourcing done. McCain knows where the real big money is and what people have it. I was told by a soldier you can get cocaine cheaper and faster then you can get a cigarettes. Looks like sales are good in Iraq.
McCain will be the top fund raiser of all the candidates thanks to his friends in the Iraq Market Place. That should get him the White House.
July 1st, 2007 at 3:43 pmComment by Zooey — July 1, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
Who hired you as “Commenter Critic,†WanKer?
That’s very hurftul
Get over yourself.
July 1st, 2007 at 3:55 pmIs that another reference to the erotic activity you mention in line above? If so, rest assured…..
Parsing #54.
I think your irony meter is sadly, sadly in need of batteries or repair.
July 1st, 2007 at 3:57 pmComment by Juan Kerr — July 1, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
How about this: Anything on topic — anything at all?
July 1st, 2007 at 3:58 pm“All the shopkeepers there are supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr.â€
So. And this is supposed to mean what? Should we be surprised that they support someone who wants the Americans out of their country? If Iraq was occupying our country, we would be fighting just as hard to drive them out of our country. That’s a fact that 26%ers can’t wrap their brain around. We are occupying their country. We are trying to steal their oil. They want us to get out of their country. Why is that wrong?
July 1st, 2007 at 4:03 pm“I hear it more and more frequently from many pundits and I am not even a big Hillary fan, but I think it diminishes her.”
That’s why they do that. Like calling Barak Obama by his middle name. It’s the only way that the Rethugs can win, by diminishing their opponent. It’s too bad they can’t win on their personal merits.
July 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pmThat’s why they do that. Like calling Barak Obama by his middle name. It’s the only way that the Rethugs can win, by diminishing their opponent. It’s too bad they can’t win on their personal merits.
Comment by Katie — July 1, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Are you talking about Hussein Ob/sama???
July 1st, 2007 at 4:10 pmMcCain will be the top fund raiser of all the candidates thanks to his friends in the Iraq Market Place. That should get him the White House.
Comment by Jackie — July 1, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
McCain can be Veep under Cheney!
July 1st, 2007 at 4:12 pmCHENEY/McCAIN ‘08!!!
Parsing???
July 1st, 2007 at 4:13 pmTypical Lefty Elitist.
“Are you talking about Hussein Ob/sama???
Comment by Mr. President”
Thank you since you just proved my point. It’s too bad that Republicans can’t win elections based on who they are and what they represent. They either have to tell lies about their opponent, demean them, or as a last ditch, steal the election by flipping the voting machine.
July 1st, 2007 at 4:18 pmOh, good. Mr. Pee is here to raise the level of discourse.
Most of us here would agree with you about the Cheney candidacy, Mr. Pee. We would love to see a guy with approval ratings in the teens, inextricably bound to the Worst Administration in Historyâ„¢ run as the Republican standard bearer. Best of luck in your efforts to make that happen.
July 1st, 2007 at 4:27 pmKatie,
Leave l’il bush Or mr. president) alone. He has been in his mommy’s basement for 9 straightt days and has missed his weekly Psycho-therapy appointment for disillusional dissociation and his Medicaid prescriptions have run out.
Now if they could just cure his paranoiac schizophrenia!!
July 1st, 2007 at 4:29 pmIf the terrorists get you, we will miss you so much, but you will die happy. :D
HAVE A GREAT TIME!!
Comment by Zooey — July 1, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
hey, i’m not going for a few days, but that was sweet… as usual!
i just hope it’s not sweltering hot… and all those bodies… eeeeew…
taking pics of the food sounds fun! …i can post them on the facebook…
July 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pm(btw – i just posted Tom3’s picture there… heh)
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#63 Are you talking about Hussein Ob/sama???
Comment by Mr. President — July 1, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Leave it to an ignorant repugnican to hold the name his parents gave him 44 years ago against him.
July 1st, 2007 at 4:44 pmShall we hold the repugs’ parents responsible for spawning them?
I think they would not agree with that as would no thinking person, but the repugs inability to think beyond their extreme and petty partisanship is what defines them.
Jerks.
I believe that the female creature from the dark side, who can be identified by appearances on television in mid day in a mini-skirted cocktail dress, often resorts to the playground taunts when describing people with whom whose politics she disagrees — like the trolls, she has no facts, no basis for her diatribes, nothing positive to say about her repugnican friends, so she demeans her opponents like a silly child.
July 1st, 2007 at 4:50 pmAlso like the trolls’ comments here, such comments say more about their small minds and limited intellect, not to mention their incomprehension of the issues.
hey, i’m not going for a few days, but that was sweet… as usual!
i just hope it’s not sweltering hot… and all those bodies… eeeeew…
taking pics of the food sounds fun! …i can post them on the facebook…
(btw – i just posted Tom3’s picture there… heh)
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Comment by katy
Just in case I didn’t see you, I wanted to wish you a great trip. :)
Sweat and food — maybe just the pictures…?
That’s what I was thinking — a food diary on facebook. Cool!
Tom3? How do you have his picture, my dear? Heh.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pmHeh. Nice tan, Tom3. :D
July 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pmNo one please discuss anything else with Mr. President until he can give a definition of Wayne’s word ‘acerebralist’.
Check the Leahy thread above this one to see why.
Thanks
:D
July 1st, 2007 at 5:13 pmComment by Marie — July 1, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 5:22 pmTypical Islamo-Apologist.
Best of luck in your efforts to make that happen.
Comment by spit take — July 1, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
Thanks!!!
Let’s make this happen!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 5:25 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
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“EHHH, Howard, How many 1,000’s of people have been killed by IEDs and snipers how many 100,000’s of people have fled Chicago from the violence in the past 5 years?”
There are more people murdered per year in Chicago than there are in Baghdad.
Call Barrak Hussein Obama, and let him know.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pmI want to make sweet love to Katie.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pmHeh. Nice tan, Tom3. :D
Comment by Zooey — July 1, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
ha! … isn’t that a hoot?!?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:05 pmwell, mostly the fact that i found it on my 85yr old aunt’s fridge…
not to worry tom3… she still appreciates a nice tan also!
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Let’s make this happen!!!
CHENEY 2008!!!
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Comment by Mr. President #76
…the subliminal message/imagery…
…is…
…sublime…
July 1st, 2007 at 10:12 pmI don’t understand why this guy’s statement is inaccurate. Most Shiites in Iraq support Al Sadr. He’s totally legitimate to them.
July 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pmComment by big papa — July 1, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Those crosses represent Loyal Cheneyites.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 am