Moore’s ‘SiCKO’ passes fact-check test.
By on Jul 1st, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Moore’s ‘SiCKO’ passes fact-check test.
CNN investigated the health care statistics Michael Moore cites in his new movie and finds them to be “mostly right.” “As we dug deep to uncover the numbers, we found surprisingly few inaccuracies in the film. In fact, most pundits or health-care experts we spoke to spent more time on errors of omission rather than disputing the actual claims in the film.” Click here to find a showing near you.
UPDATE: In an email to supporters, Michael Moore writes, “The studio tells me that we are on track to have the second largest opening weekend for a documentary in the history of the movies! (’Fahrenheit 9/11′ was first.) Many theaters have been selling out. The Bush administration’s investigation of this movie is certainly not keeping people away.”
Anyone with a pulse who has had to deal with the health care industry in the country KNOWS first-hand that Moore’s facts are right on the money! Once again - Bingo!! - for Michael Moore.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:29 pmWhen Michael Moore gets finished with the problems in this country, the people will be screaming for “CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM”!! Unfortunately, the country will be totally fascist and too late….
July 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pmMichael Moore and Live Earth combined are taking this GOP down the toilet - where they belong - totally flushable!
July 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pm“As we dug deep to uncover the numbers, we found surprisingly few inaccuracies in the film. In fact, most pundits or health-care experts we spoke to spent more time on errors of omission rather than disputing the actual claims in the film.â€
“errors of omission”???
This translates to “you didn’t tell our lies!!!! You left out our complete bullshit story we use to ph*ck everybody over.”
And we are all ph*cked at least twice every pay check!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 5:34 pmi heard mm in an interview state that the nurses union was really behind this movie, that they told him it was actually a “G-rated”
version of what they know about things…
doesn’t surprise me…
July 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pmWhen will there be wider distribution? I understand that there were only 40 openings this weekend. But I did get to see the movie. My advice to everyone is ; get a great education on the healthcare facts on the ground documented in this movie. There are too many villains in this saga to list. Moore isn’t one of them.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pmLook back at Fahrenheit 9/11 and see how much of what he said was true or came true! They tried to discredit him on that too.
Guess the BushCos and their @ss-sucking trolls can’t stand the truth!
July 1st, 2007 at 5:42 pmSiCKO will give our national healthcare plan a clean bill of health! three cheers for Micheal Moore!
July 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmComment by katy — July 1, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Was one of the unions 1199 in NY???
My SO was an RN in 1199…
July 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmI’d go see it — if it was playing anywhere within 100 miles. Hopefully it will be released wider soon.
I imagine I will leave this film feeling much the way I did after seeing F9/11, but I feel it’s important to see it.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:44 pmhow hysterically funny that cnn devotes its resources in an effort to debunk michael moore and fails.
the wdc media mavens cannot stand that moore packs more reliable information into his 1-1/2 hour documentaries than they have provided in their decades-long careers.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmI have seen all of his films, and I saw this one when it opened two days ago.
It is an amazing film.
These stories he allows to unfold for themselves. No fan fair, no music. Just the people and their stories.
I hope that everyone gets a chance to see it. it goes much further than just health care. It asks what kind of country do we want to live in.
It is important.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:48 pmdixie - not sure about specifics…
i just paraphrased what moore said… pretty much verbatim…
nurses are earth’s angels…
July 1st, 2007 at 5:51 pmMoore asks a man in England, what was it that switched their system to a universal health care program from what they had before.
Without missing a beat, he smiled and said “democracy”.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:52 pmWithout missing a beat, he smiled and said “democracyâ€.
Comment by willyloman
OMG, that’s priceless.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:57 pmRemember, the aftermath of Fahrenheit 9/11, there were so many war supporters that railed against the film.
Sicko is very different. The film is so successful at illustrating the connection between not-for-profit health care and human decency, that almost no “MooreBashers” want to go on record against it.
All they can do is wait and hope that we don’t do anything.
And that is what this film is really about.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pmAnd if we hadn’t spent all the money we don’t really have in Iraq (unprecedented national debt), we could have free health care for All - today - right now - this moment! As the saying goes: “throwing good money after bad only results in more bad!” This, we are seeing right now with our priority being death & destruction instead of health and providing for our own. We’ve taken our eye off the ball and this country will tank because of that. Surely, administrations have periodically taken their eye off the ball here and there but never have we had 6 long years of our officials playing ball on someone else’s court! They’ve been absent from the real job of caring for american citizens, that’s clear.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:02 pmThe 47 million uninsured americans is appalling enough; to know that 9 million of those uninsured and children - yes, our kids - is an abrogation of our duty as parents and caretakers.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pm9 million american children have NO healthcare! Absolutely heinous!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmI’ll stop ranting after this. Promise.
The most moving part of the film for me was a security camera video. No music, no voice over. Silent. A sidewalk on Skid Row and a car pulls up and they drop off this woman, still in her hospital gown.
They leave.
She walks one way, then another. Aimlessly. About two minutes of the film, like a silent movie.
Until a woman slowly approaches her and gently places an arm around her and takes her to a shelter.
I was crying like a child. Not for the woman, but for us. How did we become this?
Something has to be done. Americans are not like that. God, I pray we are not.
See this film.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pm“The Bush administration’s investigation of this movie is certainly not keeping people away.â€
In today’s mood, that’s actually a ringing endorsement for it!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pm#16 I hear that Moore is taking on the pharmaceutical industry next….tampering with Bush’s “Holy Trinity” - whoa! When he gets inside the nuts & bolts of that rape of the citizens of this country, the people will surely revolt.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pmWillyloman: Please don’t go away. Your posts are genuine and it’s clear that you have a heart and a soul. It’s a situation which makes grown adults cry, that’s not unique to you. When we get to see, up close and personal, how dastardly we’ve become all in the name of greed, it is gut-wrenching. Yes, indeed, we have become monsters….aided and abetted by the Marquis de sade and his sidekick….
July 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pm#19 9 million american children have NO healthcare! Absolutely heinous!
Comment by veritas
And your point is…..?
Comment by Dubya/BushCo
July 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmthe wdc media mavens cannot stand that moore packs more reliable information into his 1-1/2 hour documentaries than they have provided in their decades-long careers.
Comment by linda — July 1, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
Yep, it’s journalism-envy alright :D
July 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmI don’t know how many people have said to me — SICKO is propaganda, just like F9/11.
Then I ask them if they saw F9/11, and they say they would never watch a movie by Michael Moore.
I say, what station do you watch for news? FOX.
Uh huh.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pmCNN! Aren’t they part of the VWRC corporate media who are giving Glenn Beck a morning show for a week? But now the Moonbats believe them. Now I’m sure Moore is probably wrong again.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pmI don’t know when people will decide that we’ve reached our “nadir” as a nation but I would hope it’s coming soon because there isn’t enough time left for it to spiral more out of control before total anarchy occurs and this country will be reduced to total chaos.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pmWithout missing a beat, he smiled and said “democracyâ€.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Awesome!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:09 pm#24 And my point is…..”go out on your yacht, Dumb & Dumber, and spend more on gas than it would cost to provide a child some decent healthcare….that’s my point, piglet!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:09 pmComment by beefeater — July 1, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
Aren’t ya gonna say Michael Moore is fat?
July 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmUpside00: When it comes to abuse of our children, don’t screw with me because I’ll chew you up into shreds and spit you into oblivion.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:11 pmAmerica has been fixated on Terrorism and the war in Iraq. Michael Moore has reminded us all that Disease is also a deadly enemy.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:11 pmHealth Care is right behind the War, in polls about what concerns Americans. America needs to SEE how the rest of the Industrialized Countries provide health care for their people, and Michael Moore provides this education.
Hi Zooey: Michael Moore is looking much better, clean shaven and he’s walking several miles per day…lost 30 lbs. and really was articulate when promoting his blockbuster new flick.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmCould Karl Rove PLEASE send us some trolls who can form coherent sentences and actually make an argument? Oh, that’s right… All the conservatives with triple digit IQs are now in the ‘disapprove’ catagory…
July 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmMichael Moore is fat.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pm#30
But But……if we gave healthcare to all those children (who can’t even vote!), what would be in it for us?? How would the K Street Boyz be able to bribe us then? You just don’t understand BushCo politics!
Comment by Dubya/BushCo
July 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmHey Unbelievable! I see we’ve got a gnat on our threads again tonight….just flick them a bird and they slime away!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
Thanks for the great post.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:13 pmMichael Moore… should be Michael Snore!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pm23. veritas
Thank you. I certainly wasn’t alone in affective this film is. When I saw it Friday, at the end, the entire theatre just sat there watching the credits roll.
We just sat there as if to say, now what do we do.
it is funny and touching, but more than anything else, it is one of those rare glimpses into ourselves.
It condemns the greed of the system and our complacency simultaniously.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmUpside00: Perhaps I’ve misjudged your sense of humor?
July 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmNo one please discuss anything else with Mr. President until he can give a definition of Wayne’s word ‘acerebralist’.
Check the Leahy thread below this one to see why.
Thanks
:D
July 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmUpside00: When it comes to abuse of our children, don’t screw with me because I’ll chew you up into shreds and spit you into oblivion.
Comment by veritas
I take it you didn’t read my post in #24 closely. See who I said made that comment.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmUpside: If so, I apologize. I see now that perhaps you were using sarcasm. Hope so, anyway. Sarcasm is often mistaken for the typical troll diarrhea at first blush …
July 1st, 2007 at 6:15 pmComment by unbelievable — July 1, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
I already did, son.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmCould Karl Rove PLEASE send us some trolls who can form coherent sentences and actually make an argument? Oh, that’s right… All the conservatives with triple digit IQs are now in the ‘disapprove’ catagory…
Comment by unbelievable — July 1, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
That’s why we’re stuck with the acerebralists. :D
July 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmHey Unbelievable! I see we’ve got a gnat on our threads again tonight….just flick them a bird and they slime away!
Comment by veritas — July 1, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
How are you?
So far, SiCKO isn’t in my area. I’m hoping it will come soon. I hated having to wait until An Inconvenient Truth came out of DVD…
One more year in this red-neck area and I’m off to somewhere bluer… I miss Keith Olbermann.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmComment by Wayne “A Sophist” Schneider — July 1, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 6:17 pmTypical Lefty Arrogance.
AWWW That’s OK veritas, no harm done! I have two children of my own! I think if you follow my posts, I am right with you on almost everything.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:18 pmThat’s why we’re stuck with the acerebralists. :D
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 1, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
You’re brilliant. Thanks. :D
July 1st, 2007 at 6:18 pm#41 Moore is genius at reaching into the core of the human being, pulling up a few mirrors for each of us, and then giving us the one-two punch in the gut we need to awaken us from the sheer overdose of corruption which has lulled an entire country into complacency and the worst kinds of human behavior.
I love how his audiences are left sitting there with the credits rolling but with a new sense of profound responsibility to right the wrongs which have been committed.
Each of his incredibly poignant productions rivets you to the seat, takes you on a ride to Space Mountain, and then dumps you back onto the streets of the Magic Kingdom in full sunlight….you’re left standing there, seemingly naked & awakened….thinking: Now I ABSOLUTELY MUST take action! He’s remarkable in his sheer genius to active the higher, more spiritual senses of our being.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmAnybody here seen ‘The Power of Nightmares” by Adam Curtis?
July 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmWayne,
The trolls are now Fascist-Acerebralists?
Maybe Authoritarian-Acerebralists?
July 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmHow many experienced a spontaneous standing ovation during the credits of F9/11?
It happened both times I saw it in the theater.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:21 pmBravo to Moore, so I hope his film causes the health insurance industry to be terminated, and single-payer system like Canada to replace it.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:22 pmI think if you follow my posts, I am right with you on almost everything.
Comment by upside00 — July 1, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 6:22 pmECHO… ECHo… ECho… Echo… echo…
If you were outraged by Sicko (or what you’ve read about it so far if you haven’t seen it), there is something you can do about it.
http://www.onecarenow.org
July 1st, 2007 at 6:23 pmhttp://www.healthcareforall.org
Typical Lefty Sophist. Can’t admit when he’s wrong.
Comment by Mr. President
Comment by Wayne “A Sophist†Schneider — July 1, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
Typical Lefty Arrogance.
Comment by Mr. President — July 1, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Now which is it? Am I a Typical Lefty Sophist because of my arrogance? Or is my Typical Lefty Arrogance a result of my Sophistry?
By the way, if you truly understood what a “Sophist” is, you would know why it doesn’t bother me to be called that. In fact, that proves my point.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:23 pmHere in Hell Hole, MA, they are not even showing the movie in the largest Theater.
Miniblue made me proud when she asked the manager as to why Sicko was not being shown on any screen.
The pissant Mgr. quipped” Because we didn’t receive it.”
Mini looked at her and said, “That’s your excuse? That’s sad.”
She thanked her and walked away.
**sniff** I guess I did something right.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pmThe trolls are now Fascist-Acerebralists?
Maybe Authoritarian-Acerebralists?
Comment by Zooey — July 1, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
With ‘megalostomies’
July 1st, 2007 at 6:25 pmComment by Wayne “Arrogant Sophist” Schneider — July 1, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
You are both, and your comment didn’t make a bit of sense.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:26 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The Power of Nightmares” is a three-part documentary that the BBC produced about the rise of the NeoCons from Leo Strauss till now.
Very good film.
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
free on the net, here.
Connection with “Sicko” is that while this was going on, the AMA and other conservatives started attacking Universal Health Care as the gateway drug to communism. It was a marketing campaign designed to counter Trumans attempt at U.H.C.
St. Ronnie did some voice overs for the propaganda records.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:26 pmHow many experienced a spontaneous standing ovation during the credits of F9/11?
Comment by Zooey — July 1, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
Me too… But I was living in San Francisco at the time and went with a big group of co-workers after work.
I miss that…
July 1st, 2007 at 6:26 pm“**sniff** I guess I did something right.”
Comment by trueblue — July 1, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
Sure sounds like you did–way to go, trueblue!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pm**sniff** I guess I did something right.
Comment by trueblue
Excellent response to that manager’s smart-assed remark.
Yay, miniblue!!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pmSomething has to be done. Americans are not like that. God, I pray we are not.
See this film.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
We are a PRETEND Christian country!!!
There’s NOTHING that this government does to prove otherwise…just a bunch of Jesusmongers!!!!
Remember! Nazis where so-called “Christians” too!!
Hitler was a Christian!!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:34 pmOT, Zooey, trueblue, something new on the “old home-blog” - check it out when you get a chance.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:34 pmThanks Jane, Zooey.
Miniblue just read your comments - big smile.
You guys are great.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:35 pmdixie blood,
Have you been gone awhile, or is it me?
Anyway, nice to see you.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:36 pmMini looked at her and said, “That’s your excuse? That’s sad.â€
She thanked her and walked away.
**sniff** I guess I did something right.
Comment by trueblue
The hope of the next generation. very nice.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:36 pmI’m very lucky, willyloman.
I wouldn’t have been *nearly* as nice.
(true)
July 1st, 2007 at 6:38 pmJane,
Blog linkee on your name no workee.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:39 pmsame with me!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:39 pmOops, sorry, I had mistyped the address in my URI. Try it again.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmHitler was a Christian!!!!
Comment by dixie blood
I agree there are those who profess a connection between our democracy and christianity. But this isn’t about that.
This is something inherant in all of us. Empathy is instinctual in us. It is how we are wired.
Even you, Mr. President (you facist pigdog) are be compelled to help those in need. It is no more a religious decree than is breathing.
And this film touches that place in us. Even the right-wing nut jobs walk out of the theatre wanting some more from our society.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmBlog linkee on your name no workee.
Comment by Zooey — July 1, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
Sounds sort of rascist though I belief you not
July 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmJane and Wayne;
I hope that freedonrings apologised to the two of you for his comments earlier. It was completely over the line.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pmHitler was a Christian!!!!
Comment by dixie blood — July 1, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
No, you idiot.
Hitler was a neo-Pagan.
God you Leftists are dumb.
But Jesus still loves you.
CHENEY 2008!!!
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Git-R-Dun!!! dixie blood!!!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pmSounds sort of rascist though I belief you not
Comment by dbadass
It’s just silly talk, that’s all. :)
July 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pmAnd this film touches that place in us. Even the right-wing nut jobs walk out of the theatre wanting some more from our society.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 6:57 pmI don’t want Michael Bore to touch me anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. President > Moore is a straight guy, but Bush might grab your crotch if you are cute > wink.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:03 pm“Jane and Wayne;
I hope that freedonrings apologised to the two of you for his comments earlier. It was completely over the line.”
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
Unlikely, willy, you saw the “retraction” that was not a retraction. Then the fake retraction got retracted again within a minute or two. No, no, in his mind, we forced him to threaten us, and that’s that.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:03 pmI would take a physical from Zooey any day of the week. She’s hot!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:03 pmMr. President > Moore is a straight guy, but Bush might grab your crotch if you are cute > wink.
Comment by Jay Randal — July 1, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
Why is putting on that glove then?!?!?!
Moore wants to test men for prostate cancer!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:07 pmZooey > Bean is after you now > lol.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:07 pm#79, Mr. P
Hitler always maintained an honor and belief in Jesus. This alone put him as a Christian believer. But Hitler went beyond just belief in Jesus; he devoted his entire political life to deeds aimed at creating a race of people in the pure image of God.
Some claim that Hitler lied when promoting religion, for political reasons but nothing in the historical record indicates this, nor would there appear any reason for him to do so. Why spend so much valuable resources to rid Germany of Jews if not from some profound justification?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pmThe hate must stem from some source and the historical record shows that anti-Judaism had long lived in the minds of Christians ever since Paul separated his community of believers from the law and people of Judaism.
Hitler wrote: “I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..” As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country.
Threaten?
You two?
Wha? And it hasn’t been permanently banned?
Friggin TP!! - - When are you going to live up to your promises? 9 months now.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pmJane;
Well, I am sorry to hear that. He’s in a dark little place where any attention is better than none. I suppose.
Have you had a chance to see Sicko? Obviously, I highly recommend it.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pmComment by Howard Bean — July 1, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
Unless you’re one of the “Beans of Eygpt Maine” you might want to think first before you speak. Both men and women prefer manners
July 1st, 2007 at 7:09 pm#10 zooey,
July 1st, 2007 at 7:10 pmI think I heard Michael Moore’s movie is opening in many more theaters next week.
Mr. President > I have had only one prostate exam and the doctor jabbed my prostate gland and I almost jumped out the window. He laughed, because he said one young guy he examined rushed out of his office naked, drove off nude, and never came back to get his clothes.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:10 pmThanks for the advice, dbadass. What’s the story on Zooey?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmComment by Marie — July 1, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
Hitler was a neo-Paganist.
He wanted to viewed as God.
He went so far as to tell the Church that they must put his picture above the cross.
Not very Christian if you ask me.
But when he learned that that was not such a good idea politically, he backed down.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmComment by Jay Randal — July 1, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 7:12 pmLOL!!!!
Too much information though.
Erratum post #94) Should say - “He wanted to be viewed as God.”
July 1st, 2007 at 7:13 pmMr. President. If that is the case, why do you get a prostate exam every week on payday?
Come on now, be honest. For most of us, a prostate exam doesn’t come with a happy ending.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:13 pmCome on now, be honest. For most of us, a prostate exam doesn’t come with a happy ending.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:13 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pmTypical Leftist Snide Remarks.
good
July 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pmThanks for the advice, dbadass. What’s the story on Zooey?
Comment by Howard Bean — July 1, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Ask Zooey! I’m nobody. I just know me and imagine others as I perceive them to be relative to how I see me. She seems cool though…
July 1st, 2007 at 7:15 pm“Have you had a chance to see Sicko? Obviously, I highly recommend it.”
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
Not yet. It’s playing about 18 miles away, though, so we’ll probably go soon. From your description, I’d better bring tissues.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:16 pmTypical Leftist Snide Remarks.
Comment by Mr. President
What do you expect from an Islamo-Stalinist like myself?
but you are getting alittle hot, aren’t you?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pmWhen I told my sister about my prostate exam she said maybe the doctor did not use his finger. I did not talk to her for about a month > lol.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pmI just know me and imagine others as I perceive them to be relative to how I see me. She seems cool though…
Comment by dbadass — July 1, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
HEY!!!!
I thought I was the only solipsist here!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:19 pmand guess what…
I still do!!!
OY!
Honey, I don’t know about this Bean man…
Too eager, if you know what I mean.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:19 pmComment by trueblue — July 1, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
I come and go…
July 1st, 2007 at 7:21 pmComment by trueblue — July 1, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
Yeah, Wayne and I have had our first “death threat”! On the Al Gore thread, check it out. Enjoy!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:21 pmComment by Mr. President — July 1, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Read a little more than one reference, Mr. P.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:22 pmHitler was a catholic, later christian, later a self-worshipper, but he was foremost an anti-Jew, which was a common feeling about so called “christ-killers” among christians for centuries.
Jane; If you get a chance, do check out “The Power of Nightmares” at
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
details the rise of NeoCon movement and the Islamist fundamentalism of the Muslem Brotherhood and others.
on a side note. Both movements got their start in 1949.
“Death of a Salesman” Premired in 1949.
Hence, willyloman
July 1st, 2007 at 7:22 pmComment by Marie — July 1, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Umm… by being foremost an anti-Jew, ipso facto, he was not a Christian proper.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:23 pmI still do!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Riiiiight… Mr P., the rest of us are just those little voices in the back of your head…
July 1st, 2007 at 7:24 pmNeither is President Bush, Mr. President.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:24 pmrise of NeoCon movement and the Islamist fundamentalism of the Muslem Brotherhood and others.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:25 pmon a side note. Both movements got their start in 1949.
“Death of a Salesman†Premired in 1949.
Hence, willyloman
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Typical Islamo-Stalinist Know-it-all.
Hitler was a neo-Pagan.
God you Leftists are dumb.
But Jesus still loves you.
Comment by Mr. President — July 1, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Y’all,
More ignorant crap from a repugniscum, boy touching, I love me a hole-bunch-o-Jebus troll!!
Ignore this a$$wipe!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:25 pmMr. Badass:
July 1st, 2007 at 7:25 pmTake a call from the President?
Neither is President Bush, Mr. President.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
Why, is he anti-Jew?
Link please.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:26 pmThere are a lot of improper christians in the world, Mr. P, particularly in the republican party of the USA, headed by the most glaring example of the anti-christ George W. Bush.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:26 pmI thought I was the only solipsist here!!!
If you believe your mind is the only thing that exists, then arent you really just arguing with yourself?
Also known as mental masturbation.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:26 pmMr. President; do you just keep a list of the same old tired remarks to cut an paste, or do you prefer no original thoughts enter your mind?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:26 pm“Death of a Salesman†Premired in 1949.
Hence, willyloman”
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
One of my favorite (if you want to call it that) tragedies. I want to cry all the way through it.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:27 pmthe word christian comes from christ - and the teachings of jesus are so far removed from the behavior of GWB that there is no possible way he could be a christian in his black heart.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:27 pmMr. President; do you just keep a list of the same old tired remarks to cut an paste, or do you prefer no original thoughts enter your mind?
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
I decide when the remarks get old… heheh… I’m the Decider… heh
July 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pmI wonder if Zooey shall return. I need her wisdom, her motherly love.
Please, Zooey. Don’t leave me hanging in the balance.
Answer my call….
July 1st, 2007 at 7:29 pmAlso known as mental masturbation.
Comment by Solipsist — July 1, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
24/7
365
What a life of mine this is?!?!
Thanks, me!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:29 pmSam Brownbag 2008!
Sammy Sez:
“I will begin each day as president on my knees asking God to bless America. This is a nation that was built on faith, we need to invite it in. … the motto of our nation is ‘in God we trust’. We are a faith based nation and I would start my first day in office doing something that Abraham Lincoln called us to do, ask the country to pray together.”
Jesus Marimba…
-GSD
July 1st, 2007 at 7:30 pmI wonder if Zooey shall return. I need her wisdom, her motherly love.
Please, Zooey. Don’t leave me hanging in the balance.
Answer my call….
Comment by Dean of Trolls — July 1, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
Are you the real Dean?
… if so, use the Presidential seal.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:30 pmOne of my favorite (if you want to call it that) tragedies. I want to cry all the way through it.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
It was written following the model of Greek Tragedy. And it has always been my favorite American Play.
It would be quite timely now, wouldn’t it?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:31 pmBottom Line,
Moore and “Sicko” are correct and the asswiping trolls here are trying to stop or distract us from this simple truth reaching the public…are loosers to the core!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:31 pmThank you, Solipsist.
I had to look that word up.
sol·ip·sist –noun
1. Philosophy. the theory that only the self exists, or can be proved to exist.
2. extreme preoccupation with and indulgence of one’s feelings, desires, etc.; egoistic self-absorption.
I learned a new word today - and it’s one I can apply everyday.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:31 pmI decide when the remarks get old… heheh… I’m the Decider… heh
Comment by Mr. President
lol
July 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pmâ€
The dean is in his office, Mr. President. Any requests, sir?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:33 pmThe dean is in his office, Mr. President. Any requests, sir?
Comment by Dean of Trolls — July 1, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
Well Howdy, Dean!!!
How ya been???
July 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmI learned a new word today - and it’s one I can apply everyday.
Comment by trueblue — July 1, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
You are welcome trueblue.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pm… if so, use the Presidential seal.
Comment by Mr. President
What will the Presidential seal do, flop around on stage and beg for fish?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:37 pmI know that it is playing a very limited run, but as someone who has seen Sicko, I tell you you will not regret the commute to see it.
I think it will have a profound impact on this society.
I know it did on me and everyone in the theatre the day I saw it.
You go see it too, Mr. President. Do you some good to remind yourself that you can still be loosely described as “human”.
Got to go find out what the dog is barking at.
Islamo-Stalinists Unite!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:37 pmRequests:
Hell yes…
Can yawl shut up before I propane your asses.
xxoo
July 1st, 2007 at 7:37 pmHank Hill
“Well Howdy, Dean!!!
How ya been???”
Comment by Mr. President — July 1, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
You’ve got to stop talking to yourself, Mr. President.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:37 pmY’all,
Mr President is an in house troll approved to be here by TP.
When has anyone else here been allowed to take on the moniker of an existing person or entity.
In the past, anyone here who pretended to be “mAnn Coulter” or the VP, etc. had their monikers deleted and they were banned by IP address.
This a$$hole lives on despite breaking all of the rules established here for several years…
Nice try TP…”Mr. President” has been outed or my name is Dick Cheney!!!
Sincerely,
July 1st, 2007 at 7:38 pm–Dick(head) Cheney!!
Thanks, me!!!
Comment by Mr. President
What is funny is that since its all in your head YOU are the Islamo-Stalinist. Thanks you.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:39 pmIslamo-Stalinists Unite!
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
Blatant Islamophile Arrogance.
You do know that TP has your IP, you Muslim-Loving Lefty?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:40 pmGod bless you Mr. President, and all 10 of your chubby little brown stained fingers.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:41 pmNice try TP…â€Mr. President†has been outed or my name is Dick Cheney!!!
Comment by dixie blood — July 1, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
I would be honored if that were true.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:42 pmGit-R-Dun, dixie blood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do know that TP has your IP, you Muslim-Loving Lefty? Comment by Mr. President
I see that you do not understand the TCP/IP MAC protocols.
One IP address can be shared by many computers because they are assigned by a MAC number. Like a proxy server does.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:42 pmGod bless you Mr. President, and all 10 of your chubby little brown stained fingers.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Thanks! Don’t forget that Jesus still loves you, even though you going to hell.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:43 pmGood Evening, boss. The dean is swell, anti-IslamoStalinist shield in full force.
As an update to your previous inquiry, I have decided not appoint Gaydar3000 to the faculty. Instead, I am considering an offer to ‘kilo.’
A full-force offensive to debunk libetroll myths will soon commence. The outcome is predictable, as they will surrender (a no brainer).
Have any additional strategies, Mr. President? You are the President of Trolls here at TP.org, you know.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:44 pmOne IP address can be shared by many computers because they are assigned by a MAC number. Like a proxy server does.
Comment by Solipsist — July 1, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
Oh yeah, I just remembered.
Thanks, me.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:44 pmOh yeah, I just remembered. Thanks, me. Comment by Mr. President
Why do I love to hate myself?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:45 pmOne IP address can be shared by many computers because they are assigned by a MAC number. Like a proxy server does.
Comment by Solipsist
I gotta tell ya, it’s truly exciting when techies get into a fight…
July 1st, 2007 at 7:46 pmComment by Dean of Trolls — July 1, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Good choice, Kilo is not American though, so we will have to keep an eye on him.
Gaydar was alright, but he has not proven himself yet.
I have found that if you engage FART&PEE (aka Bartlebee) in a minor discussion, he will go on and on for hours and hence do the trolls work. You may want to try it out.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:47 pmComment by Jane E. Schneider
I am CT_V1, appointed as the dean, Mrs. Schneider. Rest assured, Mr. President and I are two entirely different people. Mr. President is my boss, he handles all troll operations here at TP.org.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:47 pmSince we ALL know that I will go to hell, I will no LONGER be
“Mr. Bush Goes To Hell”…
My NEW moniker for my
TIME LEFT HERE ON EARTH BEFORE I GO TO HELL
will be
George W. ISLAMOTerrorist, the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG
P.S. My buddy Prince BANDAR BUSH says “Allahu Akbar” Y’ALLQueda!
My MAMA gave him that name. SHE’S an OIL WHOREBAG, too!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:48 pmI guess one advantage of being a solipsist is that you don’t have to explain what “acerebralic” means if you don’t want to.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:48 pmI gotta tell ya, it’s truly exciting when techies get into a fight…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Techie Smechie. I exist in Gods (Mr Presidents mind) just like you.
Heh.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:48 pmMini looked at her and said, “That’s your excuse? That’s sad.â€
She thanked her and walked away.
**sniff** I guess I did something right.
Comment by trueblue
Oh you should be so proud, and you were going to deny her that puppy.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:49 pmComment by George W. ISLAMOTerrorist, the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG — July 1, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 7:49 pmTypical Islamo-Stalinist wanna-be.
You’re trying to hard Mr. BgtH…
Oh you should be so proud, and you were going to deny her that puppy.
Comment by shane
Maybe she did deny miniblue the puppy — who’s losing the sleep? :D
July 1st, 2007 at 7:51 pmI guess one advantage of being a solipsist is that you don’t have to explain what “acerebralic†means if you don’t want to.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
If there is only one cerebral entity (Mr God President) then there cannot be an acerebralic one.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:51 pmSorry, didn’t mean an adjective form of “acerebralist”.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:51 pmComment by Wayne “Arrogant Sophist” Schneider — July 1, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
Typical Lefty Know-it-all.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:53 pmYou’re trying to hard Mr. BgtH… Comment by Mr. President
No. We, that is YOU, are trying too hard. Why do We, You, hate myself?
July 1st, 2007 at 7:54 pmAllahu Akbar! Y’ALLQueda!!!
George W. ISLAMOTerrorist, the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG
July 1st, 2007 at 7:54 pmOY!
Honey, I don’t know about this Bean man…
Too eager, if you know what I mean.
Comment by Yenta’s Protege
Right on the money Ms. Protege. If Yenta doesn’t watch out you’ll be taking her job soon.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:54 pmAllahu Akbar! Y’ALLQueda!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:55 pmGeorge W. ISLAMOTerrorist, the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG
Comment by George W. ISLAMOTerrorist, the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG — July 1, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
Typical UnAmerican Islamophile.
Comment by Mr. President
I think FART&PEE takes notes from ‘TripMaster Monkey,’ where he opines on minor grammar issues (or what he mistakenly believes to be grammar issues) on a casual blog, in part to divert attention from the subject matter. It’s irritating, and I suppose that’s his intent.
If TP were to clean house on trolls, I get the feeling that you and I wouldn’t be the first ones on the cutting block.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:56 pmMe, dammit!
My eyes are closing as I type.
Poopie-head woke up ~ 1:00am, and then Icouldn’t sleep until ~4:30am
Little Miss Sunshine woke @ 8:00am.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:56 pmShe’s killin’ me.
Typical UnAmerican Islamophile.
Comment by Mr. President
Yeh, me, YOU should stop holding hands with Saudi Prince YOU at the Crawford ranch.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:59 pmHealth care in this country sucks regardless of Ms. Pee’s presence here…Sicko is the truth and Repuguiscums will fight with every moron they have (ie Ms. Pee here) to make sure that we are continually screwed into the ground with every dollar we earn…
And Repupugiscums don’t earn money…they inherit it…steal it…etc…Repugniscums don’t hold real jobs…they are “contractors” or “consultants’ or some other sh!t!!
You never here a repugniscum admit to being a carpenter or an electrician…that would be beneath them!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 7:59 pmThe typical un-American is George W. Bush who ferried Bin Laden’s family out of America on 9/12 and wants to instead have the right to look at my Grandma’s e-mailed apple-pie recipes without a warrant.
-GSD
July 1st, 2007 at 8:00 pmIf TP were to clean house on trolls, I get the feeling that you and I wouldn’t be the first ones on the cutting block.
Comment by Dean of Trolls — July 1, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Certainly not.
You should see all of the anti-American, pro-Muslim shit that some people post…
Yesterday I read that Juan C. thinks that OBL was a scapegoat for the US govt!!!
The nerve of these Leftist Islamo-Stalinists!!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:00 pmYesterday I read that Juan C. thinks that OBL was a scapegoat for the US govt!!!
The nerve of these Leftist Islamo-Stalinists!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Since Juan C isn’t here to defend himself, you should leave him out of the discussion.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:01 pmYou never here a repugniscum admit to being a carpenter or an electrician…that would be beneath them!!!
Comment by dixie blood — July 1, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
I was a contractor’s apprentice for 4 years.
But then, I’m not repugniscum…
I’m Metaprogressive ™
July 1st, 2007 at 8:02 pmThe nerve of these Leftist Islamo-Stalinists!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
The nerve of YOU!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:02 pmGod bless you Mr. President, and all 10 of your chubby little brown stained fingers.
Comment by willyloman
Why are his fingers … nevermind, I don’t want to know.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pmI’m Metaprogressive ™
Comment by Mr. President
Then so are YOU we!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pmComment by Zooey — July 1, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
Fine. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:04 pmI’m Metaprogressive ™
Comment by Mr. President
Then so are YOU we!
Comment by Solipsist — July 1, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
Indeed, I am, I am, indeed.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:05 pmMaybe she did deny miniblue the puppy — who’s losing the sleep? :D
Comment by Zooey
Good point, so when IS miniblue going to get a puppy?
July 1st, 2007 at 8:06 pmFine. It’s not like it’s a secret or anything.
Comment by Mr. President
Right. So wait until he shows up, and ask him about it.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:07 pmYesterday I read that Juan C. thinks that OBL was a scapegoat for the US govt!!!
The nerve of these Leftist Islamo-Stalinists!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
It’s so predictable, yet so surprising the talk that some comes from these Islamo-Stalinists. I mean, really, he said that? I have nothing against Juan personally, but it’s nuts that anybody would say that.
I wish I could continue, Mr. President, but I need to close the office for the evening. As president, you’ll engage effectively and swiftly with these Islamo-Stalinists. I will return as soon as I can.
Until then, the Dean.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:07 pmWhy are his fingers … nevermind, I don’t want to know.
Comment by shane
In order to save money to donate to the Repugs, Mr. President has learned to give himself the prostate exams.
It took alot of practice. And he is proud of his accomplishment.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmComment by Dean of Trolls — July 1, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
Peace, Dean.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmComment by Mr. President
I think FART&PEE takes notes from ‘TripMaster Monkey,’ where he opines on minor grammar issues (or what he mistakenly believes to be grammar issues) on a casual blog, in part to divert attention from the subject matter. It’s irritating, and I suppose that’s his intent.
If TP were to clean house on trolls, I get the feeling that you and I wouldn’t be the first ones on the cutting block.
Comment by Dean of Trolls
Look Bartlebee, these two pathetic trolls have posting envy.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmThe nerve of these Leftist Islamo-Stalinists!!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 1, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
Here’s what I take from trolls like Ms. Pee…
“The Isamo’s are here…please daddy GW Botch save me from these free thinking people…(that are actually Americans) because…
I’m so afraid…
I’m peeing my pants…
Please Daddy Botch please save me…
How will I ever change my underwear with my own boy-touching mind watching myself?
It’s so cold standing here in my piss soaked clothes….GW Botch why do you forsake me!!!”
Islamo!!
Islamo…run..run…run…
Ms. Pee is one completely frightened worthless child!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmGood point, so when IS miniblue going to get a puppy?
Comment by shane
When hell freezes over. :D
July 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmComment by Zooey
Zooey, good evening to you.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmZooey, good evening to you.
Comment by Dean of Trolls
Good evening, CT.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:10 pmI’m Metaprogressive ™
Comment by Mr. President
What is a Metaprogressive? Got a link?
July 1st, 2007 at 8:12 pmComment by dixie blood — July 1, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 8:12 pmTypical Islamophile Ignorance.
Comment by shane — July 1, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
Me, baby!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:13 pmThe Hebrew Jehovah was “I am.” So was Ormuzd, the Ahura-Mazda of the old Mazdeans.
You Islamophile YOU Mr President.
Ahura Mazda is the Avestan language name for an exalted divinity of ancient proto-Indo-Iranian religion that was subsequently declared by Zarathustra …
July 1st, 2007 at 8:13 pmen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda
In order to save money to donate to the Repugs, Mr. President has learned to give himself the prostate exams.
It took alot of practice. And he is proud of his accomplishment.
Comment by willyloman
I thought that was one of the Dean of Trolls’ duties, or should I say doodies.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:14 pmTypical Islamophile Ignorance.
Comment by Mr. President
Typical Islamo Ignorance YOU.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:14 pmMe, baby!
Comment by Mr. President
But we don’t have any idea what you are. So do you have a link for Metaprogressive?
July 1st, 2007 at 8:16 pmMr. President? What took you so long to respond to Dixie blood’s post?
Were you…changing your pants? Maybe?
Thinking about touching yourself again? Touching that prostate?
mmmmmmm, prostate.
You know, Jesus sees you when you do that?
So does Cheney. You have been under survailance for months now.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:17 pmTypical Islamophile Ignorance.
Comment by Mr. President
Typical Islamo Ignorance YOU.
Comment by Solipsist — July 1, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 8:18 pmTypical Islamo-Stalinist Arrogance.
Back to the point of Sicko. The more people who go see it, under limited distribution, the wider the distribution will be. So anybody who can SHOULD run and see it ASAP. Plus it will have the industry sweating, double plus good.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:18 pmComment by Solipsist — July 1, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Yeah I know about Zoroaster and the Zend people, me.
I don’t need to keep reminding myself.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:19 pmComment by Solipsist — July 1, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Especially not with the Muslim-Loving wikipedia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:19 pmMr. President? What took you so long to respond to Dixie blood’s post?
Were you…changing your pants? Maybe?
Thinking about touching yourself again? Touching that prostate?
mmmmmmm, prostate.
You know, Jesus sees you when you do that?
So does Cheney. You have been under survailance for months now.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
What post of dixie blood?
July 1st, 2007 at 8:20 pmOnce again,
Ms. Pee is one completely frightened worthless child!!!
Screaming Islamo..Islamo…
Well, Ms. Pee IsLameOh!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:20 pmIsLameOh!
IsLameOh!
IsLameOh!
IsLameOh!
Mr. President? What took you so long to respond to Dixie blood’s post?
Were you…changing your pants? Maybe?
Thinking about touching yourself again? Touching that prostate?
mmmmmmm, prostate.
You know, Jesus sees you when you do that?
So does Cheney. You have been under survailance for months now.
Comment by willyloman — July 1, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
This post?
Comment by dixie blood — July 1, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
July 1st, 2007 at 8:22 pmIt took 4 minutes!!! If you think that is long, no wonder no one listens to you Lefty cut-and-runners.
IsLameOh!
Comment by dixie blood — July 1, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
Heh.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:24 pmIslam IsLame
Kinda funny, I think I’ll use that sometime.
GIT-R-DUN dixie blood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does it take you longer to change your sopping wet pants? or finger your prostate? Which take more time, Mr. President. an anxious nation needs to know.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:27 pmKinda funny, I think I’ll use that sometime.
Comment by Mr. President — July 1, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
Notice, y’all that Ms. Pee can’t think for herself either…she has to steal clever comments from others…the true sign of a complete and unabated MORON!!!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:27 pmI am not one given to hyperbole but I must echo the comments of others on this site that Moore’s film came across as very powerful. The first half of the film allowed those who were abused by America’s health care system to tell their heart-wrenching stories while the second half focused mainly on those countries whose health care system does an excellent job in providing for the welfare of its citizenry. France was perhaps the most impressive [though Canada, Britain and Cuba all do quite well while spending less money on its citizens than the U.S.] allowing its citizens a 35 hour work week, a minimum vacation of five weeks [again, that is the minimum]. There was an amazing scene where a French government employee goes to the home of a woman to assist her and her children by doing their laundry for her! Can one imagine that situation happening in the U.S.? Another scene had an element of deja vu when Moore followed a French doctor on his rounds when he performed the radical task of making house calls on his patients! That has not happened in this country for probably the last forty years. As someone either in England in France noted, in America the people fear what the government may do to them while in most of Europe the government listens and respects the wishes of the people.
This film is truly a must see, regardless of whether one is Democratic or Republican, liberal or conservative, rich or poor. The hope is that Moore’s film will provide the cornerstone for long needed reform in this country before more people have to forego health coverage in what is usually touted as the richest country in the world.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:31 pmwell said,erroll
July 1st, 2007 at 8:33 pmThe summary below includes comparisons of the American health care system relative to other countries and between the states, plus data on the uninsured, rising health care costs, the woes of Medicare and Medicaid and more.
For all the details, see:
July 1st, 2007 at 8:45 pm“SiCKO Required Reading: U.S. Health Care by the Numbers.”
ISA
Instant Spontaneous Applause.
I don’t remember being in a movie theater before when the entire audience bust into applause at the last line of the movie, but it happened with SICKO.
We all know people that hate Michael Moore. My sister is one of them. But my sister also thinks Ann Coulter is a “reasonable” person. My sister is an idiot. But I can’t even imagine Ann Coulter going to this movie and not at least give it a “thumbs-up”.
And how simple. I mean really, what more does Michael do than walk around with a camera? No sets, actors, maybe a prop or two and Za-zam! here we are! Of course it’s harder than that and Michael has talent for making it look easier than is most likely really is, but mostly that’s us in those lenses. Candid camera on steroids in the a man of Michael’s talent.
Seeing ourselves up on that screen brings it home. Those aren’t actors, those are us and hence I can understand why some people hate Mr. Moore. If you worked for the corporate health care industry in this country, you might not want to go see this movie, the quilt you’ll feel on the way home might force you to do the right thing or drive your car off a cliff. (Make sure your policy is paid - not that it would help, as you already know.)
This is a “break though” film. I think it’s going to be real hard for Michael to do any more films like this himself. What politician, (other than the few un-corrupted or the stupid), corporate employee, certainly not any managers or CEO’s would allow Mr. Moore to show them as they really are? I think Michael’s going to have to use shills, other talented candid-camera investigative journalism types to continue in this way. If indeed that is what he wishes to do.
I have always enjoyed Mike’s work, and unlike my idiot sister (after all what award has Ann Coulter ever won?) feel good for him and hope he continues to shed light on us. Warts and all.
Ah, ahem, hey Mike, I hear you have some questions about 9/11 …?
July 1st, 2007 at 8:46 pmwillyloman is nothing more than a great con!repug troll!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:46 pmDEMONACRACY IS WHAT GOT US IN THIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!
July 1st, 2007 at 8:51 pmBUSH SPREADING DEMONACRACY!
demonacracy is freedumb!!!
I MUST EMPHASISE FIRST!