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Yep, religion is all about peace and love…
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 amHere, I’ll give the libs response to this attack. Libs: This was an attack created by conservatives to lengthen the war in Iraq. Based on the blogs about the London attacks, I truly believe that liberals are supporting terrorism. Ebonically speaking, libs, which crew are you rolling with (Al Queda, Hamas, etc.)?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 amDaryll,
If we need any shit out of you we’ll squeeze your head, OK?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 amComment by unbelievable
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 amYep,
And because the bombing took PLACE at a temple, we can automatically assume that those responsible were religious and targeting religion rather than waiting on the facts of the case or even venturing a guess that the tourists were the target.
Daryll,
I wont blame conservatives. I’ll blame dogmatically challenged whackos like you!
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 amIf we need any shit out of you we’ll squeeze your head, OK?
Comment by Zimzone
*laughing so hard*!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:33 am(Al Queda, Hamas, etc.)?
Comment by Daryl
What? What about PLO? Those are not the bad guys anymore? What about Taliban? They were good, now bad again? What about Hezbollah? Those are bad guys now, but when they were fighting PLO they were good, right?
Bad guys and good guys. I love this simple world.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 amBush’s fault.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 amdaryll
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 amyou are dumb as a rock. The bombing ATTEMPTS and the bomb in Glasgow were connected and have NOTHING TO DO with Islamic terrorists you moron. Do a little research and educate yourself about what you are speaking on before you spout off your obviously wrong rhetoric.
You wingers are such a bunch of chickesh*t babies, afraid of everything, you think any action is related to alQueda. You are as dumb as this president, and that is as dumb as it gets.
Dead Beat Bush , love’s seeing people killed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 amWQuick, time for george W. Bush to hold a summit and hold hands with his best new friend, Muammar Ghaddaffy.
They can share a lobster and talk about how justice for those killed on the Pan Am flight over Scotland were never punished.
-GSD
P.S. A US Lt. Col. was missing in Cyprus and has been found dead, but it is “not” considered terrorism.
Something smells a little fishy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:42 amLibs, here’s the point. This terrorist act proves why we are fighting the war on terrorism in Afghan and Iraq. If you’re not able to comprehend my statement, please let me know. Here is my question. Do you want another terrorist attack near you city/neighborhood?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 amdaryll
you are dumb as a rock. The bombing ATTEMPTS and the bomb in Glasgow were connected and have NOTHING TO DO with Islamic terrorists you moron. Do a little research and educate yourself about what you are speaking on before you spout off your obviously wrong rhetoric.
You wingers are such a bunch of chickesh*t babies, afraid of everything, you think any action is related to alQueda. You are as dumb as this president, and that is as dumb as it gets.
Comment by Justice — July 2, 2007 @ 11:39 am
Justice, I refuse to call you names. Open your eyes, Justice. We are not trying to demolish Islamic terrorism. We are trying to stop terrorism, in general. Please read G. Gordon Liddy’s book, “Fighting Terrorism Liddy Style”. More groups like Al Queda are recruiting people from Western nations.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:52 amDaryll,
“Do you want another terrorist attack near you city/neighborhood?”
This is a straw-man argument. DO you really think that we ‘libs’ want terror atteacks to happen? Really?
We just disagree on the best to deal with the problem. I of the thought that dropping bombs on peoples houses, just tends to piss people off more. Now using good intel to get good info on those who may do this, is a good way to go.
Remember that after 9-11, the Islamic world was with us in denouncing that attack.
We need to work with the moderates in the Islamic world to try to get their ‘extreme’ elements under control. Terror will never be defeated because it is merely a tactic. A tactic that our founders used to help win the Revolutionary war.
But we can attempt to win hearts and minds and to let others know that we do care for them. Jesus’s message right? We can let them know that we are reasonable, and willing to hear them out. Are we willing to defend ourselves, of course, but we are not the barbarians that this administration has made us look like to the rest of the world.
We have become a shoot first and ask questions later nation under this President. ANd that’s not what the world expects from us. We can do better.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:53 amDaryll ?, What did Iraq do to USA for Dead Beat George to go to war with them?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:53 amEbonically speaking, libs, which crew are you rolling with (Al Queda, Hamas, etc.)?
Comment by Saint Daryll; he of 1 second luv — July 2, 2007 @ 11:29 am
Wow, such compassion from a pseudo (c)hristian. Is that what your cult preaches?
Meanwhile, true Christians pray for the victims, and their families, and also for peace.
You? Obviously that love thy neighbor thingy that was of second most importance taught be Jesus? Again, your cult must not preach that.
Finally, were it not you sometime last week throwing a hissy fit because a poster referred to himself as “black”?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 amYet you refer to gangsta slang as “ebonics”?
What the hell is wrong with you?
Get thee to an all male bath house, ASAP!!!
Daryll ?, What did Iraq do to USA that made Dead Beat George to go to war with?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:55 am#9 – British officials have said they are hunting for what they called an al-Qaida-linked network behind the attempted attacks.
Just sayin’
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:58 am#18 Comment by SGT Higgins — July 2, 2007 @ 11:58 am
al-Qaida = terrorists
Glasgow bombers = terrorists
therefore, al-Qaida = Glasgow bombers
Sadly, I’m guessing that not many Faux News viewers can tell me what is wrong with that logic. Gawd Bless the You Essay.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 pmDaryll ?, What did Iraq do to USA that made Dead Beat George to go to war with?
Comment by Bruce from Texas — July 2, 2007 @ 11:55 am
Fund terrorist cells and organizations.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 pmWell, Daryll and unbelievable, you deserve each other. This attack has everything to do with “nationalism” and nothing to do with religion.
Read the story here! The temple is ancient –3000 years and to gods or goddesses no longer worshipped. It’s a museum. 6 of the 8 killed were tourists, probably from Spain. It’s an attack on Westerners.
Now, the Islamophobes of this world need to know this is all about nationalism and economics. It’s NOT about religion.
unbelievable has to drop the axe she loves to grind. And Daryll, well, he has to drop the racist, jingoist sh!t. People are slapping labels on each other trying to form a Team. It just muddies the issue. There is no War on Terror. What we have is a geo-political conflict which we are being dishonest about.
I really have little to quarrel about with unbelievable, but Daryll is clearly shredding his Christian morals to become an assassin for Jesus.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 pmThis is exactly why MuslimShiteaters ™ can not be trusted in Iraq. They will start destroying cool temples and shit which are part of the world’s history. Similar to the way the Taliban bombed the giant Buddhas in Afganistan.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 pmComment by lupeyg2 —- That wasn’t from Fox, sorry I left out the reference. It was from MSN’s homepage. I’m not making a decision on who dunnit, I just cut & pasted the reference.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 pm#20 Comment by Daryll — July 2, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
If this was the standard by which we preemptively strike ENTIRE NATIONS, we would have our hands absolutely full…especially since our definition of “terrorist cells and organizations” have NO BOUNDS and are not uniformly applied. We have individuals in the U.S. funding terrorist cells and organizations, but I don’t see us bombing ourself…do you?
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:07 pmYes and this happens in Iraq every day in many locations. 18 killed is a pittance compared to Iraq’s daily toll of carnage. Yemen is lucky so far.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 pm#23 Comment by SGT Higgins — July 2, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
Didn’t mean to make it sound like it was from Faux. I should have found a better way to describe the 20%ers rather than by calling them Faux viewers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 pmMr Prez, it’s really none of our business if a nation paves over paradise or whatever. It’s only war or genocide that should be seen as our concern.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 pmCorrection to post 25 > 8 killed in Yemen not 18.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmDaryll, did you know that many organizations now labelled as ‘terrorists’ were not so labelled until after 9/11? And yet people who gave to these ‘charities’ were damned just the same whether they stopped giving or not.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 pmDaryll, that’s sure shallow for Dead Beat George to go to war, an further more that’s not even proven. Look at all the people that Dead Beat killed in Irag. I’m sure has he spoke to the Good Lord,an he told him to kill all of these people.The Good Lord I worship died for our sins on the cross, wonder what Good Lord he worships ?
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 pmWhy don’t we let the dust settle, and the investigation begin, before we decide what happened?
We sound like f*cking FOX “news” around here.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 pmDaryll, that’s sure shallow for Dead Beat George to go to war, an further more that’s not even proven. Look at all the people that Dead Beat killed in Irag. I’m sure has he spoke to the Good Lord,an he told him to kill all of these people.The Good Lord I worship died for our sins on the cross, wonder what Good Lord he worships ?
Comment by Bruce from Texas — July 2, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
Civilian deaths are a part of war. Also, war existed in the old and new testament.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 pmSometimes I forget, and I slip into actually trying to debate the trolls. They lack the fundamentals of logic, which is necessary for debate.
I apologize. Please don’t feed the Daryll.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 pmAnd because the bombing took PLACE at a temple, we can automatically assume that those responsible were religious and targeting religion rather than waiting on the facts of the case or even venturing a guess that the tourists were the target.
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 2, 2007 @ 11:32 am
It’s always about religion when it’s a SECTARIAN civil war between religious factions, moron…
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 pmWell, Daryll and unbelievable, you deserve each other. This attack has everything to do with “nationalism†and nothing to do with religion.
YOU are more Daryll’s speed. He likes outies…
Don’t be ridiculous yet again david, the civil war in Iraq is between religious groups…
It’s an attack on Westerners.
Which is ALSO about religion… Sheesh.
Now, the Islamophobes of this world need to know this is all about nationalism and economics. It’s NOT about religion.
It’s ALL about religion. Stop pretending it isn’t because you can’t handle the criticism…
unbelievable has to drop the axe she loves to grind.
F*ck you. You’re not my master. Worry about yourself. Hypocrite.
I really have little to quarrel about with unbelievable,
Could have fooled me. You can’t allow me to have my views, can you? Well, deal with it. People like you only make me want to point out the violence in monotheism even more.
but Daryll is clearly shredding his Christian morals to become an assassin for Jesus.
Comment by david — July 2, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
Then don’t lump us in together. My views are based on facts and his on fantasy.
You don’t have to agree with me, but you can’t stop me from expressing my opinions. It’s the First Amendment.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:45 pmIt’s always about religion when it’s a SECTARIAN civil war between religious factions, moron…
Comment by unbelievable
Oh Holy crap! Now there’s a civil war in Yemen?
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 pmWhy don’t we let the dust settle, and the investigation begin, before we decide what happened?
We sound like f*cking FOX “news†around here.
Comment by Zooey
You noticed? I wonder how many people even read the linked articles before their knees start jerking.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmCivilian deaths are a part of war. Also, war existed in the old and new testament.
Comment by Daryll — July 2, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
So you’d be okay if your entire family was killed for the sake of this “war”?
Didn’t think so, you religious hypocrites only want to kill other people for your benefit.
Your god also was pro-abortion in the OT…
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmOh Holy crap! Now there’s a civil war in Yemen?
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 2, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
No idiot, the civil war in is Iraq. You really don’t think the violence is limited to those invisible borders that define the country do you?
Look at a map. The onlything separating Iraq from Yemen is Saudi Arabia. You think they are playing “Switzerland” in all of this?
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:52 pmI wonder how many people even read the linked articles before their knees start jerking.
Comment by gummitch — July 2, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Unfortunately, no article linked to this story…
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmUnfortunately, no article linked to this story…
Comment by unbelievable
It was meant as a generality. Maybe even a vague generality. It’s Monday, for god’s sake!
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:56 pmUnfortunately, no article linked to this story…
Comment by unbelievable
Exactly the point……
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:57 pmhttp://tinyurl.com/yvldy7
There’s a link for you, from the International Herald Tribune.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmCivilian deaths are a part of war. Also, war existed in the old and new testament.
Comment by Daryll — July 2, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
So you’d be okay if your entire family was killed for the sake of this “war�
Didn’t think so, you religious hypocrites only want to kill other people for your benefit.
Your god also was pro-abortion in the OT…
Comment by unbelievable — July 2, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Give me scripture where God supported abortion.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:03 pmComment by unbelievable
“terrorists are criminals, whose victims come from all walks of life, communities and religious backgrounds” — Comments made in a statement to the House of Commons.
So, tell me again how exactly these bombings are linked to sectarian violence? Or are the ’sects’ of which you speak Spaniards and all those of Middle Eastern descent?
You may well be correct that this is some sort of overflow from Iraq, but calling it secattrian civil war is …well… unbelievable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:05 pmAn Iraqi junior doctor and a brilliant neurologist working for the NHS are among the suspects being quizzed over the series of bomb attacks across Britain, it emerged today.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:22 pmGive me scripture where God supported abortion.
Comment by Daryll — July 2, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
You mean you haven’t memorized the entire book? But, okay, I’ll give you several:
Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.†Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion�
Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.
Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.†In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped upâ€. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped openâ€. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:26 pmGod has the right to take any life.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmYou may well be correct that this is some sort of overflow from Iraq, but calling it civil war is …well… unbelievable.
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 2, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
I didn’t call it ’secattrian’ anything.
You just said I might be correct and then insulted me for having said it. Make up your mind. It makes you look irrational. Or is this your way of telling me I have to connect all the dots for you all the time because you aren’t capable of doing it yourself? Hmmm?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmGod has the right to take any life.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Prove there is a god.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:30 pmunbelievable the resident athiest/bible scholar/
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:31 pmGod has the right to take any life.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Maybe abortion doctors are acting on “god’s will”. You don’t know.
And perhaps stopping them is stopping “god’s will”. You don’t know that either (boy you don’t know much).
Prove it isn’t “god’s will” that these doctors are acting as he commands…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmunbelievable you were much nicer as a person when you went to church.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmatheism has made you bitter
# 49 – You just said I might be correct —- yes, ‘might’ unbel, it’s called ‘benefit of the doubt’…. not all the facts are known yet. Calling the bombing of tourists from SPAIN sectarian violence seems a bit of a stretch at this point….but hey, whatever floats your boat.
and then insulted me for having said it. — where was the insult? I mean, if you want one, I’d be more than happy to supply one…or 12.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:34 pmunbelievable the resident athiest/bible scholar/
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
Atleast you finally admit that I know the Bible better than you. I’ll tell you a secret – it’s partly why I’m an Atheist…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:34 pmProve God scientifically? is that what you want? God in an experiment?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmI mean, if you want one, I’d be more than happy to supply one…or 12.
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 2, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
No thanks.
But perhaps you’d like to play a game that Mr. President couldn’t complete yesterday?
It’s called define the word ‘acerebralist’. Care to take a shot?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:36 pmProve God scientifically? is that what you want? God in an experiment?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Sure. Something scientific would be credible, because feelings and senses aren’t verifiable or concrete.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:37 pmunbelievable you were much nicer as a person when you went to church.
atheism has made you bitter
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
You didn’t know me then.
I assure you, I was not as happy or nice of person as a Christian as I am as an Atheist. I’m also far more moral, ethical, thoughtful and tolerant.
This is definitely a better version of me.
But you’ve never been an Atheist to compare, so you really have no experiences of your own to use as a basis for judgement, do you?
Besides, Flaco, I recall verses in the bible that say that you’re not supposed to judge people. You need me to look them up for you? See how nice of me that is….
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pmAtleast you finally admit that I know the Bible better than you. I’ll tell you a secret – it’s partly why I’m an Atheist…
Comment by unbelievable
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Yea head knowledge
Stony heart, it shows unbelievable
Yep, you convinced me of no need for God, not!
god is not Great! by Christopher Hitchens
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pmyou will love this book
Besides, Flaco, I recall verses in the bible that say that you’re not supposed to judge people. You need me to look them up for you? See how nice of me that is….
Comment by unbelievable
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:43 pmWhy would I ask you to look them up. You take them out of context just like everyone else.
unbelievable wants people to not to judge, What are we suppose to do with the Supreme Court?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 pmI assure you, I was not as happy or nice of person as a Christian as I am as an Atheist. I’m also far more moral, ethical, thoughtful and tolerant.
This is definitely a better version of me.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pmComment by unbelievable
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Maybe you were never a Christian in the first place?
It’s called define the word ‘acerebralist’. Care to take a shot?
Comment by unbelievable
Google’s only reference is…right back to TP. So? Which one of you crazy kids thought of the idea to make up words and keep the neocons runnin’ back and forth? Brilliant, man, brilliant. LOL
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pmYep, you convinced me of no need for God, not!
That’s the difference between us. I don’t care to convert you. I know you need your god parachute teh way a two year old needs his binky… I just want you to stop forcing your insecurities on our style of government.
god is not Great! by Christopher Hitchens
you will love this book
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
I’m reading Cosmos by Carl Sagan right now. Amazing… But thanks for the reading tip. You should try reading the bible.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pmWhy would I ask you to look them up. You take them out of context just like everyone else.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
How many contexts are there for ‘judge not’?
Just one. Practice what you preach…
unbelievable wants people to not to judge, What are we suppose to do with the Supreme Court?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
The Supreme Court is not Christian. You are. Different set of rules. Christian rules do not apply to non-Christian entities just as Jewish or Hindu or Buddhist rules do not apply to you.
Maybe you were never a Christian in the first place?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
Yes I was. Get over it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmI’m reading Cosmos by Carl Sagan right now. Amazing… But thanks for the reading tip. You should try reading the bible.
Comment by unbelievable
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Why should I read the bible if it is a fairy tale?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmThe Supreme Court is not Christian. You are. Different set of rules
Different set of rules?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:54 pmThou shalt not kill.
Google’s only reference is…right back to TP. So?
That’s hilarious… Now we’ve made it to the top of “the Google”. LOL
Which one of you crazy kids thought of the idea to make up words and keep the neocons runnin’ back and forth? Brilliant, man, brilliant. LOL
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 2, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
The original idea was maybe gummitch, but the idea for “acerebralist” was the brain child of the one and only Wayne Schneider. We were amused with that one for quite a while…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmThe Supreme Court is not Christian. You are.
Comment by unbelievable
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I am?
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmFlaco,
Unbelievable is a fanatic kook.
She is a devout atheist and is therefore irrational about many things.
Flaco, it is useless to attempt to speak to her rationally.
The scary thing is, she claims to be a teacher.
I will pray for her and her students.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmunbelieveable – refer to post #33. After reading the Flaco drivel, it is the only suggestion that I could possibly give.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmWhy should I read the bible if it is a fairy tale?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Why shouldn’t you read it?
I think everyone who claims to be a Christian should read the whole thing.
Different set of rules?
Thou shalt not kill.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Not an actual quote of a United States law, you know?
So two or three of them over lap? Not killing was a part of human culture before Christianity, so if anything it’s actual an ethical law that Christianity incorporated and not the other way around…
We don’t prosecute for the other 7 or 8 commandments, you’ll notice…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmIt’s called define the word ‘acerebralist’. Care to take a shot?
Comment by unbelievable — July 2, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
That’s your retarded game, Sister unbelievable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmI am?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
Are you denying Christ, Flaco?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmMaybe you were never a Christian in the first place?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
Yes I was. Get over it.
Comment by unbelievable
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 pm—————————————————–
I think you thought you were. Reading a bible, going to church are things Christians do but that does not make you a Christian.
Sorry to pop your bubble.
Atleast you finally admit that I know the Bible better than you. I’ll tell you a secret – it’s partly why I’m an Atheist…
Comment by unbelievable — July 2, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Unbelievable is a closet bible thumper!!!
LOL!!! :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmI am?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
Are you denying Christ, Flaco?
Comment by unbelievable
Kinda like St. Peter?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmunbelieveable – refer to post #33. After reading the Flaco drivel, it is the only suggestion that I could possibly give.
Comment by Lupeyg2 — July 2, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
Thanks, but I don’t debate trolls to educate them. Most of them are uneducatable. :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pm#71 She is a devout atheist and is therefore irrational about many things.
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
It is amusing how you contradict yourself in one nice and neat little sentence. Atheistic belief is grounded in rationality, rather than the belief in supernatural phenomenon that Christians refer to as god.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmI should have known.
If there is a possibility that religion will come up on a thread, there unbelievable will be, preaching the good Word!!!
LOL!!! Unbelievable is quite obsessed with Christ for a self-proclaimed atheist!!! LOL!!! :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:04 pmComment by Lupeyg2 — July 2, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
You sir, are an idiot.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmunbelievable you kind of resemble the Pharisees a little.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmAlways trying to trick Jesus but he knew what they were up to.
#82 Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
Even well-versed in the art of the formal rebuttal.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmI think you thought you were. Reading a bible, going to church are things Christians do but that does not make you a Christian.
Sorry to pop your bubble.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
No, I definitely was a Christian. Unlike most Christians, I actually did go to church… I didn’t read the bible though, I just accepted what the priest said that it said…
I truly believed in the Christian god, Jesus as my savior and eternity.
I just don’t anymore. Same as you can truly love someone and then fall out of love with them.
I believed because I was ignorant of the truth. Once I began to discover the truth, I had to let go of my belief system that conflicted with it. It was hard, because I really was a true believer. I wanted to believe.
I understand what you believe, Flaco. I really do. I just choose to reject it now, because I found something that I like better. And I do know that you can’t understand that, as I couldn’t understand it when I was a Christian. But you’ll just have to accept that I, unlike you and those like you, have walked on both sides of the fence, and have chosen this side.
I probably can’t explain it to you. But, if you will just accept that it is my right to be an Atheist, I won’t need to point out the gaping holes in the religion your side tries to force on me and those like me. It really is that simple… Think about it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:08 pmKinda like St. Peter?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
Exactly like St. Peter :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmIt is amusing how you contradict yourself in one nice and neat little sentence. Atheistic belief is grounded in rationality, rather than the belief in supernatural phenomenon that Christians refer to as god.
Comment by Lupeyg2 — July 2, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
He’s a little gem isn’t he? LOL
That one, I do ignore…
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:10 pmunbelievable you kind of resemble the Pharisees a little. Always trying to trick Jesus but he knew what they were up to.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
Not at all. I’m just defending myself by explaining why Atheists reject your religion specifically (since I’ve never had anyone non-Christian try to convert me back). It’s about showing the reasons that I reject Christianity, so that I am those like me will be left alone. And, from the current temperature, it seems to be working… Which is why you’re trying to call me the Devil. Fine I don’t believe in devils or demons either.
I don’t care if you convert, or decide to believe in magical unicorns instead. I just care about your side not persecuting or harassing my side because we don’t want to believe the silly stuff your side believes. Belief doesn’t work for everyone.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmunbelievable…
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:18 pm†
You know you can’t resist His love!!!
…Belief doesn’t work for everyone.
Comment by unbelievable
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That is what I am trying to tell you. You never believe in God in the first place hence your name unbelievable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmThat is what I am trying to tell you. You never believed in God in the first place hence your name unbelievable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmThere are so many things you do not understand about the universe yet that does not keep you from formulating a belief of your own.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmYou say you want scientific proof but even you and Carl Sagan do not fully understand nor can you provide proof of the origins. It is a belief not verifiable in a lab. You go on “faith”
That is what I am trying to tell you. You never believe in God in the first place hence your name unbelievable.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
Yes I did. I very much believed in your god for the majoirty of my life. In fact, I’m 40 now and have only been an Atheist for about 3 of those years. 4 years prior to that, I was in transition where I wasn’t sure, leaving me with 33 years of bonafide god-belief.
I did believe in a god. My parents taught me to believe in one, and I never questioned it until I realized one morning that faith might have been foolish. Turned out, it is…
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmThere are so many things you do not understand about the universe yet that does not keep you from formulating a belief of your own.
There’s really not that much anymore. And there are some things our human brains are not capable of understanding – like eternity.
You say you want scientific proof but even you and Carl Sagan do not fully understand nor can you provide proof of the origins. It is a belief not verifiable in a lab. You go on “faithâ€
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Actually, Flaco, it is verifiable in the existing universe.
There are all sorts of observable stages of life in the universe that we can look at it in the same regard to which we look at humans in various stages of life, and then string them together into something that is verifiable and logical.
Logic plays a part in it. We know that certain laws of physics are constant, and that all things in the universe must follow them. That allows us to fill in some gaps. Others we admit exist, but they are becoming smaller and smaller each year.
Faith actually has nothing to do with it. Nothing at all.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:33 pm… I just care about your side not persecuting or harassing my side because we don’t want to believe the silly stuff your side believes. Belief doesn’t work for everyone.
Comment by unbelievable — July 2, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
unbelievable you quote the bible / fairy tale book like it is suppose to be followed. If it is a fairy tale why do you quote it so much?
You need to come up with your own atheist rules/religion/belief system.
You are persecuting people of faith.
Read some or your posts deary.
See ya
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:35 pmFlaco – you could be right.
I’m just willing to bet against it…
And I want the hypocritical Christians in this country to ACCEPT that, respect that, and leave the Constitution alone. That’s all.
Until that happens, I will continue to point out why god-belief is foolish.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:37 pmThat allows us to fill in some gaps. Others we admit exist, but they are becoming smaller and smaller each year.
“faith” again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:37 pmProve it
unbelievable you quote the bible / fairy tale book like it is suppose to be followed. If it is a fairy tale why do you quote it so much?
Because it’s the book of Christianity. You should know that.
You need to come up with your own atheist rules/religion/belief system.
I did.
You are persecuting people of faith.
Read some or your posts deary.
Nope. The minority cannot oppress the majority. I’m simply defending myself, and others like me. You’ve just been taught to play the victim to get your way because our culture sides with those who cry victim the loudest…
ya
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I’m afraid so…
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:40 pmYou say you want scientific proof but even you and Carl Sagan do not fully understand nor can you provide proof of the origins. It is a belief not verifiable in a lab. You go on “faithâ€
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Flaco, unbelievable doesn’t even understand Carl Sagan’s books, let alone anything deeper!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:41 pmLOL!!! :D
“faith†again.
Prove it
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
No it isn’t.
Go read ‘Cosmos’ by Carl Sagan, ‘Atheist Universe’ by David Mills, ‘The Blind Watchmaker’ by Richard Dawkins ‘A brief History of Time” by Stephen Hawking and ‘God The Failed Hypothesis’ by Victor Stenger. Then you will possess the same knowledge I do, which cannot be summed up in a few words.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:42 pmFlaco, unbelievable doesn’t even understand Carl Sagan’s books, let alone anything deeper!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Define ‘acerebralist’ and then we’ll talk about who knows more about the Science of the Universe.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:44 pmFlaco, unbelievable doesn’t even understand Carl Sagan’s books, let alone anything deeper!!!
LOL!!! :D
Comment by Mr. President
Haw haw. It must be nice to be so simple that you can amuse yourself with utter tripe.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmThen you will possess the same knowledge I do, which cannot be summed up in a few words.
Comment by unbelievable —
Again limited knowledge no complete proof – you cannot possible know all about the universe as you claim – unless your are god?
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:54 pmUntil that happens, I will continue to point out why god-belief is foolish.
Comment by unbelievable
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Old Testatment- “The fool says in their heart there is no God”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pmThat allows us to fill in some gaps.
Faith actually has nothing to do with it. Nothing at all.
Comment by unbelievable
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What do you use to fill in the gaps? guess? science or psuedo-science, belief
Provable? not likely. How big are these gaps?
Carl Sagan, David Mills, Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Victor Stenger
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:08 pmAaaha, a list of your gods with their limited knowledge of the universe.
Gap – an empty space or opening in the middle of something or between two things.
Empty space – just fill it in with psuedo-science.
I guess you still need faith.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:14 pmCharles Darwin – boy did this guy get outdated quick.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:16 pmCharles Darwin – boy did this guy get outdated quick. What an embarrasment to modern science.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:17 pmAh, unbelievable, how nice to see you turn a tread –and it was you who did it from the first post. You’ve got your God Reason, who is just as bad as Daryll’s jealous maniac. And, I repeat, you two deserve each other.
This thread was about a bombing in Yemen –neat how you pretended you didn’t make a mistake about place by saying the war in Iraq is also in Yemen. The attack was on a museum –not a church, or a synagogue, or a mosque. In most attacks on tourists, the terrorist’s objective is to punish the government which makes considerable money from the tourist trade.
I did post a link that explained what happened, but you were too busy burning the theists at the stake. How like a Rationalist!
I don’t think this had anything to do with sectarian violence. Indeed, I suspect the sectarian violence in Iraq itself is fueled by the Pentagon in the hopes of dividing the population.
And what’s with this goofy challenge to define the neologism “acerebralist”??? It doesn’t make much sense. But then that’s true of much of your Rationalism 101. You don’t really care to scientifically define who was killed in Yemen and why or what is the best course to take in the Middle East. No, you just care about ticking off Daryll and Flaco or whoever seems to still believe in that Nobodaddy in the sky that got your knickers in a knot so long ago.
Acerebralist, noun, a person who doesn’t believe metaphysical or supernatural experiences come from the mind. But, as in most negative formations, it really doesn’t define anything. The acerebralist might believe in a personal god or in nothing at all. The term is just too vague. It offers no clarity or precision as a word –not unless one cares to attach an entire philosophy to it.
In this definition it is like “atheist” or “agnostic”. Neither noun clearly defines a person’s standpoint but merely excludes one aspect. An atheist does with god, but does so on faith alone as it is not a provable or disprovable position. What an atheist then thinks of the world remains unclear and, indeed, the types of atheists are legion. An agnostic acknowledges the unsolveable nature of “belief”, but prefers to proceed then without passing judgement.
You will find that the USA is not an Theist or Atheist state, but, according to the First Amendment, it is an Agnostic state.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmCorrection: It is too bad TP doesn’t allow previews as I’m notorious poor at proofreading in the panel.
I opened with a comment that meant to say you turned this whole thread to a discussion on the Evils of Religion.
the line in the last paragraph should read “an atheist does without god”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:14 pmthank your resident god unbelievable
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 pmunbelievable
gets the US mixed up with the former USSR
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 pmAgain limited knowledge no complete proof – you cannot possible know all about the universe as you claim – unless your are god?
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
You cannot claim that until you’ve actually read those books. And I know you won’t.
I didn’t claim to know everything. Scroll back. I only claimed to know enough to be convinced that gods are neither necessaery nor likely.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:11 amOld Testatment- “The fool says in their heart there is no Godâ€.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Of course it says that. It wants you to accept is as an authority. Prove that it is what people claim it is, and not just a book written by men who wanted to control other people…
It also says a lot of other things that are ludicrious, violent and contradictory. It’s not a very good book if you read the whole thing, and not just pull out passages that please you.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:13 amWhat do you use to fill in the gaps? guess? science or psuedo-science, belief
Provable? not likely. How big are these gaps?
Flaco, it is clear by your mischaracterizations that you don’t understand Science and don’t want to.
You feel better buying into a really silly fairytale. If that works for you, have at it. It doesn’t work for thinking people, however, and you’ll just have to accept that, because the reality is that more people each year give up religion.
Carl Sagan, David Mills, Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Victor Stenger
Aaaha, a list of your gods with their limited knowledge of the universe.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
You have serious issues… There are NO gods, not even these brilliant minds.
Just an eternity of mass-energy that can neither be created nor destroyed that, when it interacts with itself, evolves. That simple. No wordy book necessary. Ockham’s Razor.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:18 amGap – an empty space or opening in the middle of something or between two things.
Empty space – just fill it in with psuedo-science.
I guess you still need faith.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
You’re still pulling crap out of your arse, and it still stinks…
Charles Darwin – boy did this guy get outdated quick.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Charles Darwin – boy did this guy get outdated quick. What an embarrasment to modern science.
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
No, he didn’t. He spurred many other scientists who have confirmed that Evolution is a fact. Deal with it.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:20 amthank your resident god unbelievable
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
There are NO gods. None.
gets the US mixed up with the former USSR
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
I pity you Flaco. You can’t hold a basic conversation with anyone, and habitually resort to puerile insults when it’s clear you’re ignornant on the matter, rather than trying to learn anything. Must suck to be you.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:22 amPiss off david, I’m not reading your endless patronizing cry-baby nonsense. I skip all your inane posts now because they are worse than the crap thetrolls fling. You’re not worth the time or effort…. I’m done.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:24 am…you’re ignornant on the matter, rather than trying to learn anything. Must suck to be you.
Comment by unbelievable
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Upset that I don’t do indoctrination?
Learn yes but not from a brain washed teacher like yourself.
Stick to teaching basics.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 pmThe bombing ATTEMPTS and the bomb in Glasgow were connected and have NOTHING TO DO with Islamic terrorists you moron.
Comment by Justice — July 2, 2007 @ 11:39 am
They are Muslim and committed terrorist acts but the acts have nothing to do with Islamic terrorists? You need to take your own advice, bud. “Do a little research and educate yourself about what you are speaking on before you spout off your obviously wrong rhetoric.” Perhaps you meant to say the authorities have yet to find a connection between these terrorists and a known terrorist organization. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:07 pmHeh, heh, heh. David needs to cut and past the response in #117 and appy it to #118. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:12 pm