BREAKING: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence
BREAKING: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence
President Bush has spared Scooter Libby from a 2½-year prison term, issuing an order that commutes his sentence, the AP reports. Libby will never have to go to jail, but his felony conviction will stand, and he will still serve two years probation and owe $250,000 in fines.
The Politico reported on June 17:
White House loyalists have begun arguing that clemency for I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby — either a pardon or a commuted sentence — would be a way for an embattled President Bush to reassert himself, particularly among conservatives.
The White House has not ruled out a pardon for Libby, sources say. But several Republicans, who sense a movement in Libby’s favor, said a more likely possibility might be a presidential commutation — a reduction or elimination of Libby’s 2½-year federal prison sentence. Such a move, they said, would be less divisive for the country.
UPDATE: On June 5, White House spokesperson Dana Perino said that the President was “not going to intervene.”
UPDATE II: From Bush’s statement today:
I respect the jury’s verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby’s sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison.
My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged. His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long-lasting.
The Constitution gives the President the power of clemency to be used when he deems it to be warranted. It is my judgment that a commutation of the prison term in Mr. Libby’s case is an appropriate exercise of this power.
UPDATE III: In March, Americans opposed pardoning Libby by a 3 to 1 margin.
UPDATE IV: Weekly Standard’s William Kristol predicted it all along. From Fox News Sunday, June 10, 2007:
KRISTOL: I think [the president] will not let Scooter Libby go to jail. He may not pardon him. He may commute the sentence, the prison sentence — in other words, say no prison sentence, but let Libby pay the $250,000 fine that Judge Walton imposed and therefore not overturn the actual verdict.
That way, he can say, “Look, a jury found that he made false statements. I’m not going to challenge that. But this man does not deserve to go to jail. The official recommendation was for a much shorter sentence. Judge Walton for some reason went for the maximum sentence. That’s not right. And therefore, I’m going to remove the prison sentence, commute the prison sentence but maybe let the fine go ahead.”
UPDATE V: Bloomberg notes, “Bush has granted fewer pardons — 113 — than any president in the past 100 years, while denying more than 1,000 requests, said Margaret Colgate Love, the Justice Department’s pardon attorney from 1990 to 1997. In addition, Bush has denied more than 4,000 commutation requests, and hundreds of requests for pardons and commutations are still pending, Love said.”
UPDATE VI: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV): “The President’s decision to commute Mr. Libby’s sentence is disgraceful. Libby’s conviction was the one faint glimmer of accountability for White House efforts to manipulate intelligence and silence critics of the Iraq War. Now, even that small bit of justice has been undone.”
UPDATE VII: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): “The President’s commutation of Scooter Libby’s prison sentence does not serve justice, condones criminal conduct, and is a betrayal of trust of the American people.” More statements from House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD), Judiciary chairman John Conyers (D-MI), and Rules chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-NY).
UPDATE VIII: Statement from Vice President Cheney: “I have always considered him [Libby] to be a man of the highest intellect, judgment and personal integrity — a man fully committed to protecting the vital security interests of the United States and its citizens. … The defense has indicated it plans to appeal the conviction in the case. Speaking as friends, we hope that our system will return a final result consistent with what we know of this fine man.”
UPDATE IX: Politico’s Crypt notes that House Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-MO) “was one of the few - and perhaps only - Republicans to applaud President Bush’s decision” to commute Libby’s sentence. Reaction by former senator Fred Thompson HERE.
UPDATE X: The New York Times editorial board writes, “Presidents have the power to grant clemency and pardons. But in this case, Mr. Bush did not sound like a leader making tough decisions about justice. He sounded like a man worried about what a former loyalist might say when actually staring into a prison cell.”
UPDATE XI: Bob Geiger has compiled the reaction of the Democratic presidential candidates HERE.
Um... can we impeach Bush NOW!? Or do we actually need to catch him in bed with a dead girl or live boy?
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:52 pmSo, since Bush is changing the sentence, not pardoning, does this mean he is above the law of the judge(like the sherriff in the Paris Hilton fiasco?)
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmNow can we get back to killing IslamoNazis?
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmA commuted sentence. Pardon. What's the difference. Americans who believed in the justice system or that our CIA operatives were protected have been completely thrown out.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmIMPEACH!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmWelcome to the 4th of July Fireworks display in D.C.
on July 2nd
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmThis has to be a sick joke.
sad sad day
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmMISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmImpeach for obstruction. This was clearly done to keep Scooter from talking.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmIMPEACH!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:55 pmWatch out for MOONBAT feces being flung at their keepers!! You fools didn't see this coming at all did you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmThis is how the conservatives protect our country, by supporting criminals and hurting our service men/women.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmUn-phucking-believable!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmSuch a move, they said, would be less divisive for the country.
Wrong!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmThis will be a good platform for the democrats to show the Republicans are against Law and Order as well as traitors.
How else would he get his underlings to keep doing illegal stuff like wiretapping? He has to show he'll have their back.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmNow can we get back to killing IslamoNazis?
Comment by Ringo — July 2, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Who's this "we" , jerkoff ?
Playing war games on your X-BOX doesn't make you US military , jackass...........
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:57 pmSo the crimes of Neocons are treated differently....!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:57 pmthis is the last straw
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pmNot unexpected, but how very sad. Such a callous disregard for human life and the rule of law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pm"A commuted sentence. Pardon. What’s the difference."
$250,000, two years probation and a felony conviction. That's the difference. I wanted to see prison time as well, but this is better than a pardon, that's for sure.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pm* * REPUBLICANS ARE C O W A R D S. Enforce the laws on the books. * *
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmWell, this isn't going to make things any easier for repub candidates for President and congress. Over 72% of the public strongly disagrees with this act.
Bush has broken just about everything he has ever gotten his hands on. Now, he may actually break the Repub. party and the modern conservative movement. If Libby walking free helps to bring that about, it's a blessing in disguise.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmIts gonna take war to get these scumbags out of the white house.Bring it on.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmspineless.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmWatch out for MOONBAT feces being flung at their keepers!! You fools didn’t see this coming at all did you.
Comment by beefeater — July 2, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
Aren't you the same stupid chump piece of shit that posts over on HuffPo , under the name , beefeatermartini ?
If not , you have a remarkable ability to post the same monumentally stupid shit as another Chimpy leg humping moron ......Congrats , douchebag.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmOkay now it's time to Impreach the entire lot of them, starting with Cheney!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmdid just what Cheney told him to do, yet again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmBWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is sure to send my left wing lunatics into a frenzy!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
funny these will be the same lunatics that didn't mind all the Presidential pardons that I gave.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmWhy does the right-wing hate America?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmOMFG!
I am outraged by this Admin's DISGUSTING behavior.
I am SO ready for torches and pitchforks.
When the H*LL will Impeachment be put back on the stinkin' table?
(Sorry for the cap's. I'm really pissed.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmWatch out for MOONBAT feces being flung at their keepers!! You fools didn’t see this coming at all did you.
Comment by beefeater — July 2, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
UM,"BEEFEATER'? you might want to change that,uh GAY ASS NAME-uynless you ARE gay-or Republican-then I have no problem....
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmBush statement today: “I have concluded that the prison sentence is excessive.â€
Same ol' disregard for the rule of law. What an a**hole!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmOf course he commuted! Don't you remember all those years back in Texas when, as Governor, he carefully examined the clemency petitions that crossed his death and, drawing upon his own history of sin and repentance, adeptly tempered justice with mercy...
oh.. wait...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmWhat a crock! Once again they prove that we have the best justice money can buy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmThe president should be assamed of this incredable injustice.
UPDATE II: Bush statement today: “I have concluded that the prison sentence is excessive.â€
i wonder what he thinks of the multiple consecutive life terms that he [and the rest of bushco] are going to get
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmYou had to know this was going to happen. Why not. Law does not apply to Saddam... I mean Bush.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmA long way from his earlier position of "I will fire anyone involved".
One more failed policy...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmSo much for the Rule of Law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmLibby will still have to pay the fines means a book deal is imminent.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmI just wrote my congressman and senators asking them to start and/or support impeachment proceedings. You all should do the same.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pm#20
“A commuted sentence. Pardon. What’s the difference.â€
$250,000, two years probation and a felony conviction. That’s the difference. I wanted to see prison time as well, but this is better than a pardon, that’s for sure.
Comment by ann
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmAmericans who believed in the justice system or that our CIA operatives were protected have been completely thrown out.
That's the rest of my comment. But, of course you're right. :-)
Bush wants some kind of legacy. How about the lowest approval rating. I mean its something. The way he sees it somehting is better then nothing.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmfreudian slip alert: that should've been crossed his "desk" not his "death" in #33
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmWell, this isn’t going to make things any easier for repub candidates for President and congress. Over 72% of the public strongly disagrees with this act.
Bush has broken just about everything he has ever gotten his hands on. Now, he may actually break the Repub. party and the modern conservative movement. If Libby walking free helps to bring that about, it’s a blessing in disguise.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 2, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
yes, because just like I want, my wife wants, like the rest of the left wing lunatics want, what we want is a one party system. Let the Democratic party be the only party, right Col. Jack Ripper? Sounds a lot like Stalinst Soviet Union, or take your pick of the different 20th century dictatorships.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmAnybody remember,
"Anybody involved in the outing of Valerie Plame won't be working in this administration."
and then nobody being fired.
Now, not only were the people fired, Bush has commuted the sentence of the one found obstructing justice, by covering up for those that committed the crime.
This is exactly why Libby didn't mind being the scape goat in covering up the outing of an under cover CIA agent.
Libby had his sentence commuted for covering up TREASON.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmThis is more proof that reich-wingers do not respect the rule of law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmWho will Scooter vote for??????????
Oh thats right as a convicted felon he is a sub citizen and can NEVER vot again. Failure in Chief, flaunt the law all your want and the 5 year requirements for pardons and commuting, we know you are all devoid of ethics and scruples.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pm$250,000.00 is nothing for a Neocon.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmMoney will come soon from Scooter's buddies and supporters!!.
Let the trolls begin
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmWell, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
The funny thing is seeing the reactions to all of this. With all the discourse coming from BOTH sides of the aisle, it is no wonder this country is so incredibly phucked up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmWrite Pelosi. It is time for Impeachment to go back on that table!
AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmThis is par for the course for the non-accountable chympfest that our Exemptutive branch has become.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmI just wrote my congressman and senators asking them to start and/or support impeachment proceedings. You all should do the same.
Comment by Art — July 2, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
I did the same, I hope Pelosi gets it up the ass soon too, don't you? got get that evil witch away from power.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmTrolls only get three questions? Once answered they must let us cross the bridge.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmTroll: " Why do I sound so right?"
Answer: "Because you are right, in your own mind"
Troll: "When will I be understood"
Answer: When you can truly make sense and feel acceptance and love.
Troll: Why do I like to change the subject"
Answer: Because you'd have to make a case for the subject at hand and that would be beyond your capability.
#1
Idiot fool....pardons are not an impeachable offense.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmLet the trolls begin
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
what? you guys have been around all day. what are you talking about?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmYou guys all realize he made a call to the boss and told him to commute it now or he was going to call Fitzgerald.
ANN,
"$250,000, two years probation and a felony conviction. That’s the difference. I wanted to see prison time as well, but this is better than a pardon, that’s for sure."
No it isn't. The only way to get to the bottom of this was to force this perjurer into jail and make him roll over. Now that will never happen.
WE MUST CHABNGE THE CONSTITUTION!!!
This cannot be allowed to happen ever again.
Let me get this straight, you can lie to our justice system, and commit whatever other crime you wish, so long as you have the President's favor. This kind of power is a relic of the monarchy we threw off so long ago.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmComment by MsJoanne
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmI've written her so many times my fingers hurt.
Outing a secret agent and 2 1/2 years is excessive but flimsy evidence while this dry drunk was a governor sent people to die. Let the comparisons begin.
I expected nothing less from Bush
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmJsch profound point and comparison with Sandy Berger since Berger also outed a covert agent and contributed to an illegal war.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmIt looks like Bush is trying for the record of having the lowest approval rating ever for any president. What can you do about a president that just doesn't give a damn?
Nancy, anyone home? Nancy? Nancy?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmFunny thing -- this happened just as Scooter's waiting for his appeal (AND we just learned he would have to begin serving his sentence while he waited). Could it be that puppetmaster Cheney is concerned about another trial? Perhaps Scooter might not be quite so G. Gordon Liddy after seeing what prison is like and the idea of "taking one for the team" might not be so appealing.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmIslamoNazis?
The only thin even apporaching being fascists are the mental rejects who support Bush by being anti-American retards ranting about "killing IslamoNazis".
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmClinton-better than the Dick-tater-ship we got now...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmTrolls only get three questions? Once answered they must let us cross the bridge.
Troll: †Why do I sound so right?â€
Answer: “Because you are right, in your own mindâ€
Troll: “When will I be understoodâ€
Answer: When you can truly make sense and feel acceptance and love.
Troll: Why do I like to change the subjectâ€
Answer: Because you’d have to make a case for the subject at hand and that would be beyond your capability.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
you hit it right on buddy. We left wingers do sound just like you say so. Incredible right, how self-righteous of us.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmJuly 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pm
I'm sure glad we, the taxpayers, spent all that money and time hearing this case, when it was just going to be commuted in the end.
Bush should've saved us all be pardoning Libby at the very beginning - at least we would've known back then what we learn today . . . Bush doesn't care about this kind of treason.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmLet the trolls begin
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
what? you guys have been around all day. what are you talking about?
Comment by President Clinton
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmBill,
It was a joke.
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmIdiot fool….pardons are not an impeachable offense.
Comment by m12
idiot fool a commutation is not a pardon. No ethical twinge on your part for flaunting the 5 year deferrment requirement. When did your last moral fiber die?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmPhone and Email addresses for your Congressmen and women. CALL! WRITE!! This is appalling!
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:09 pmGreat point Frank
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:09 pmThis bares repeating:
"BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is sure to send my left wing lunatics into a frenzy!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
funny these will be the same lunatics that didn’t mind all the Presidential pardons that I gave.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pm- William Clinton
idiot fool a commutation is not a pardon. No ethical twinge on your part for flaunting the 5 year deferrment requirement. When did your last moral fiber die?
Please quote the text in the Constitution which establishes this requirement.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pm#57 - change the constitution indeed. Require Senate confirmation of all pardons where the supplicant has not yet served his sentence, and all commutations. Period.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pm#65 Comment by President Clinton-
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pmleft wingers are not the problem. Right wingers are not the problem. Idiots are the problem.
LEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmI wonder if this sorry piece of shit has someone taste his food for him yet to make sure it's not poisoned.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmHe and his administration are our country's worst enemies.
"Excessive." Ha, coming from the former governor of a death penalty state, whose current administration doesn't seem to care for habeas corpus.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmISLAMOTerrorist TRAITOR Libby pardoned by ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG Bush...
Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmJune 5th was June 5th. This is July 2nd people. Keep up. That was then this is now. Don't yoos geys know how the Chimpya werks?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:12 pmI hate myself so much.
I'm a loser troll that has nothing better to do than eat jizz and post mindless drivel on websites that have content I disagree with.
I need a drill and a large hammer so I can take myself out of this misery.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:12 pm#73
Of course they did not mind, Mr. Clinton, when you pardoned your brother.
They are Democrats.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:12 pmAwesome, this is increasing the speed at which my head could get sliced, chopped, or sawed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmAren’t you the same stupid chump piece of shit that posts over on HuffPo , under the name , beefeatermartini ?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by MCMetal — July 2, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
You bet, and thanks for noticing. That’s a double ca-ching!! What are you, a stalker? Now guess my 4 DUmmie logins.
Wasn't Bush the governor who executed the mentally retarded? Excessive? Muck Fee.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmParis Hilton and Martha Stewart have far more courage then scooter and that closet drunk we call president.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmPreznit - Scooter is a convicted Felon, can NEVER vote again, disbarred, disgraced, Felony probation, $250,000 fine. Convicted.
Thats a win?
So impotent
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmSo incompetent
So irrelevent
I'm President and I can do anything I want. Nyah, nyah, nyah!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pm#65 Comment by President Clinton-
left wingers are not the problem. Right wingers are not the problem. Idiots are the problem.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
I 100% agree, that is why we must get rid of Pelosi, Michael Moore, Reid, Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy, my wife and the rest of the idiotic Democratic politicians ruining my party.
We left wingers only talk about the infighting going on in the Republican party, let me assure you, there is a much bigger fight going on in our party.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmThis bares repeating: "funny these will be the same lunatics that didn’t mind all the Presidential pardons that I gave."
William Clinton
Comment by Mr. President
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmClinton did not pardon a felon who argueably sits on the border of treason for lying five times under oath.
LEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!
Yup, REAL Americans LOST.
And ISLAMOTerrorists like Bush, Libby and YOU "won".
Well, it shows the TRUE nature of TRAITOR Bush the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG ISLAMOTerrorist...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmMr. President
"LEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
America loses on this one.
What good is a justice system where we are all supposed to be accountable when, as long you are tight with the President, you can simply not worry about it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmThank you for the links, Ms Joanne.
Although I have emailed ad nauseum, I have been compelled to continue after this latest atrocity.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pm"IMPEACH!
Comment by Max Kellar — July 2, 2007"
For what?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmIMPEACH NOW !!!PLEASE!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmCrooks of a feather flock together.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmWhat?
Commutes his sentence? Since when is Bush a sitting judge?
Are they just making this crap up as they go?
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmFcking Assole has no respect for the law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmWell Libby
his appeal is over
Lets get him under oath at congress...
lying there is a crime too.
make him testify a week.
give him immunity...
if he lies
then by the next time hes convicted.... Obama WONT pardon him.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmWonder if Bush can bring back the war dead? Coward!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmLibby is covering up the outing of a CIA agent. Big difference, no comparison.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pm#73
Of course they did not mind, Mr. Clinton, when you pardoned your brother.
They are Democrats.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
why would they mind! and how about when I pardoned Mark Rich....the left applauded me! they loved me, they adore me.
my left wing friends, they never cease to be such great hypocrites!
I love you left wingers, I adore you, thank you for the 8 years of power you gave me. It was fun! really fun! I hope you vote my wife in.....gosh I miss those white house interns.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmAwesome, this is increasing the speed at which my head could get sliced, chopped, or sawed.
Comment by ForTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmTypical Sarcastic Lefty Islamo-Apologist.
IMPEACH!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmOf course they did not mind, Mr. Clinton, when you pardoned your brother.
They are Democrats.
Comment by m12
Of COURSE they did not mind, Mr. Bush 41, when you pardoned your INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST FRIEND, Orlando Bosch, still in Miami...
They are Rapeublics...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmMr President:
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmNothing you say bares repeating. Actually it doesn't even bare being spoken the first time. When you've gotten your fill of attention, will you please go read quietly in your library. They do have a Troll Presidential Library don't they?
Libby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmI think the American people should demand the ability of a President to pardon or commute a criminal be stricken from the Constitution. This is 'kin outrageous. Pardon drug dealers, keep your felon friends out of jail....why is this even allowed? There is really no reason that he, or any other should have such an ability. What a disgrace.
INDICT RICHARD ARMITAGE
INDICT THE VP
THROW THESE CRIMINALS OUT OF OFFICE AND INTO PRISON!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmIn Bush's statement he says the Libby family has suffered immensely...give me a break. What about the families of the American servicemen and women? And the countless Iraqi families that have lost loved ones?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmWE WIN WHILE YOU LEFTISTS TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am the Dean, and my argument STANDS.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmLEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Only tools like this consider this a "loss" for the left rather than for America. A dangerous precedent was set today. Obstructing justice and perjury is no big deal if you are in the President's circle of friends.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pm#1
Idiot fool….pardons are not an impeachable offense.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
FOOL, Libby wasn't pardoned.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmViva President Bush!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmWhat?
Commutes his sentence? Since when is Bush a sitting judge?
Are they just making this crap up as they go?
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
My Left wing retard, take an 8th grade civics law, and shut up.
now wonder you retards voted me into office twice.
i love you my retards.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmI'm a spoiled brat who fails at everything I do, but I can still shove it to the American people and do anything I want! Fcuk you, America!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmI consider Cheney/Bush's invasion and continued occupation of Iraq "excessive". Can we friggin' IMPEACH those crooks yet????
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pm"I have concluded that the prison sentence is excessive"
When did Resident Dumbass learn the meaning of the word "excessive"?...I thought he'd still be practicing his pronunciation of the word "umbiliiliiliical"....dumbass...go drop an anchor and get stuck off-shore again will ya.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmYay, another victory for the Islamo-conservatardian-Struassian-Neo-Freaks!
I'm getting my neck waxed and a haircut to make life easier for the headchoppers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmIMPEACH!!!!!!!
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
LUNATIC!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmif for nothing other than the sake of precedent, we need a nuremberg, not just an impeachment.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmOn the bright side - this makes "law and order" conservatives look like the hypocritical scumbags they are and will drive down Bush's already pathetic approval rating even lower.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmI bet you Lefties are real disappointed that your prison rape fantasies won't be coming true!!!!
HAHA!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmHe'll probably be offered a position at AEI..
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmthis is the last straw
No. I fully expect that the last straw will be the pardon that GDumbya will bestow upon Little Scooter on the day that he leaves office. That will be the last straw -- and it will probably be accompanied by blanket immunity from future prosecution for many, many members of his administration including Darth "Prince of Darkness" Cheney and Rums-failed.
Little Scooter is sure lucky that he wasn't sentenced to death, though. In that case, GDumbya would be sitting around in a drunken stupor with his thumb up his arse laughing about how Little Scooter was whining "I don't want to die".
Now Little Scooter can join his misanthrope buddies at the AEI. I am sure that he and Wolf-whizz and "Got Milk?" Bolton have alot of catching up to do.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pm1. Successfully completed a technical project for the government client.
2. Wife and I traveling to St. Thomas for a little R&R.
3. Scooter was spared incarceration.
HALLELUJAH, THANK YOU JESUS, THANK YOU JESUS. Lord, you are so good.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmTYPING THE WORD "IMPEACH" ON A MESSAGE FORUM, IS NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD WHATSOEVER.
IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THINGS, YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO ORGANIZE, IN VAST NUMBERS, AND TAKE IT TO THE STREETS.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmHa Mr. Pretzel-dent,
I'm de-railing YOU.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pm#102
Maybe Bush should grant clemency to murderers and rapists and child molestors like all these Dem governors are doing.
After all, those crimes are so minor!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmHi Dennis,
You should really get a new schtick, because you're still not even close to being witty.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmCriminals pardoning criminals.
They're gestapo pigs getting caught and then policing themselves.
Bush just assured his own impeachment.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmBush made a political mistake. He should have pardoned a Puerto Rican terrorist or mafio bag man like Clinton to keep the libs quite.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmI hope a pissed-off CIA agent puts one right through Scooter's brain...
For Libby's TREASON against the USA...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
Comment by Frank J — July 2, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
yes, remember, what is good for America is bad for the left wing in America and Al Qaeda.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmI'm going to start a charity, to assist head choppers, we will provide free blades and sharpening services. We will also have classes where they can practice on cows.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmI think the American people should demand the ability of a President to pardon or commute a criminal be stricken from the Constitution. This is ‘kin outrageous. Pardon drug dealers, keep your felon friends out of jail….why is this even allowed? There is really no reason that he, or any other should have such an ability. What a disgrace.
Similarly, if a man is sentenced to be executed, he shouldn't be granted mercy just because a Democratic governor is in office. Right?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmWhat kind of day are you having Frank?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmLemming alert....hey site monitor, can we establish some basic guidelines such as you need to have an IQ greater than that of a stack of steaming shit in order to post on here.
Hey Frank...don't you have some doughnuts to make or something...toadie fool....what a "good german lite"....dimwit.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmBush made a political mistake. He should have pardoned a Puerto Rican terrorist or mafio bag man like Clinton to keep the libs quite.
Comment by STANK — July 2, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
If he did, it would still be a republican.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmI’m a spoiled brat who fails at everything I do, but I can still shove it to the American people and do anything I want! Fcuk you, America!
Comment by pseudo-Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmTypical Sneaky Lefty Islamo-Stalinist Impostor.
Why would a CIA agent shoot Libby? He outed an Al Qaeda operative in Valarie Plame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmBush made a political mistake. He should have pardoned a Puerto Rican terrorist or mafio bag man like Clinton to keep the libs quite.
Comment by Frank J
Or an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST Cuban like his DADDY DID!!!
To keep the "cuban terrorists" (a la Fred Thompson) QUIET...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:22 pmPres Clinton and all other trolls are so stupid.
They don't realize that civics class hasn't been taught in years.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:22 pmCriminals pardoning criminals.
They’re gestapo pigs getting caught and then policing themselves.
Bush just assured his own impeachment.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
are you sure you are not talking about me? c'mon now bartlebee, you can't be this stupid. you are just playing one, right? c'mon say it ain't so.
retard, you can't impeach for this. duh!
my wife forced me to pardon Mark Rich and her friends that were involved in international drug deals, why are you upset about Libby when the sentence was commuted, no pardon was given.
poor you, cry my left wing baby, cry.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmTreason is OK for members of The Dick's branch of the govt.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pm#107 Libby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath.
Comment by Glen
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmGlen, please, stand in the foyer of the CIA and repeat your comment. But, better still, imagine a country where your life is exposed. Search your mind?
Comment by ForTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
You sir, are a fraud.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmLet's pray that the sharks are hungry in St. Thomas over the holiday.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmFrank J = Moron
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmI'm gonna start a flight school for head choppers. They can practice chopping heads on the fly, in flight, or after flying into buildings.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmHey Glen- You are a total buffoon. A medal for outing a CIA covert agent? How about the death penalty for exposing a vital intelligence asset to enemies of the United States? I'm sure your idiotic comment would be appreciated by the CIA..... People like you are carbuncles on the ass of common sense.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmIn the voice of Eric Cartman:
Hey, f*ck you judicial system! F*ck the jury, too!
Ah never worked a day in my life, and ain't no one gonna tell me wut ah'm gonna do!
Ah'm George Dub-ya Bush and ah do wut ah want!! Ah do whatevah ah want!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmWhen convicts go free, Cons cheer!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmWasn’t Bush the governor who executed the mentally retarded? Excessive? Muck Fee.
Comment by RUCerious
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Actually it was Bill Clinton : http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1112-04.htm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmThough the trolls think it is all one big ball game... they are wrong... and they should be ignored because of this...
The disdain for the U.S. Constitution and the modern (as in last past 800 years) of western legal systems by the republican crime league is being recorded for all to see. If anything bad should happen to America in the coming decades we will all know who to blame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
Comment by Frank J
Wilson and Plame are AMERICAN PATRIOTS.
TRAITOR Bush is the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG TERRORIST.
Bush: "ALLAHU AKBAR, Y'ALL-Queda!!!"
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmThis is an OUTRAGE and Bush must be impeached immediately!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmMr. President,
I advocated in the previous Libby thread for probation with no prison whatsoever. Today, these radical "justice-loving" nutbags have once again embarrassed themselves.
I was originally for a pardon, but once the reminder of a commutation came, I decided that was the best remedy to this overblown scenario.
Today, the President has made the correct, apolitical decision regardless of the libetrolls.
To serve as a reference to the libetrolls' previous retarded excitement: "I would rather fail in a cause that will ultimately triumph than to triumph in a cause that ultimately fails." - Woodrow Wilson.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmAll those love letters must have worked. Or dick cheney's bark was just getting way too loud. Sad...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0605071libby1.html
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmnuremberg
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmI’m President and I can do anything I want. Nyah, nyah, nyah!
Comment by pseudo-Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
I'm okay with this.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmOh c'mon Mr. DentalPress,
I so long for the day my throat is sliced into on the way to full de-cap.
"Cap or de-cap"
"I'll take the de-cap"
Maybe medicine can learn to re-capitate, and head-chopping won't have near the impact it used to have. I'll just get it re-attached. Whats the big deal?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmI wonder how we have forgotten what we did to the other King George, when we were no longer represented. What a perfectly timed 4th of July reminder!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmWow. Rush really does run the country.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_070207/content/01125113.guest.html
Now if we can just get that wall built..
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmCome on, CIA people---Go GET Libby!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmWell, the right wing wins another one, and America loses again.
Clinton was impeached for lying about a consetual private affair.
Bush on the other hand lies about matters of state, and the right wing scum cheers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmBush missed a couple of retarded Texans...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmNeocons Justice...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmHe obviously doesn't respect the jury's verdict. This is disgusting. Round 'em up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmHow about the death penalty for exposing a vital intelligence asset to enemies of the United States? I’m sure your idiotic comment would be appreciated by the CIA
You talking about Robert Hannsen? Even he didn't get the death penalty.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmJust hours after the DC Circuit affirmed the order requiring Scooter Libby to face jail time pending the appeal of his conviction, President Bush used the presidential pardon power to commute Libby's sentence, thus sparing him jail time while leaving in place the conviction - thus, an unsentenced conviction for a victimless crime:
President Bush Monday spared former vice presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby from going to prison for 2 1/2 years for obstructing the CIA leak investigation, a White House official said.
The official said Bush "has commuted the prison sentence ... leaving intact the probation and fines handed down by the court."
"That means he is not going to jail," the official said.
Now, we get to hear what Hillary Clinton thinks about the proper uses of the pardon power.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmWilson and Plame are AMERICAN PATRIOTS.
TRAITOR Bush is the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG TERRORIST.
Bush: “ALLAHU AKBAR, Y’ALL-Queda!!!â€
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pmWe are no longer a nation of laws. If you are high ranking politically, you are above the law. Cheney can just pretend he's his own government entity. Bush can just disregard the Constitution whenever he wishes on things like spying without a warrant or suspending habeus corpus.
We can no longer exist as a nation ruled by the Constitution and law if we allow this blatant abuse of power and blatant refusal for any type of oversight.
The time has come to IMPEACH President Bush and Vice President Cheney. We cannot progress on any other area until this is done.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pm"Similarly, if a man is sentenced to be executed, he shouldn’t be granted mercy just because a Democratic governor is in office. Right?"
Huh? Why would I want anyone sentenced to be executed to recieve mercy? I don't give a damn who is in office. Take your stupid partisan statement and stick it in your ass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pmHey Frank.
Your moms here.
Want I should send her over?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pmMr President,
Read the comment at this link, and then apologize to ForTruth.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/#comment-3885049
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pmHillary Clinton thinks about the proper uses of the pardon power.
Comment by Frank J
How about we hear how Hillary is going to use the power of the Patriot act against the "vast rightwing conspiracy" in this country... I am not sure I would even bother speaking out against her... you cons would deserve what you get.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pmNow, we get to hear what Hillary Clinton thinks about the proper uses of the pardon power.
When Hillary is president, she will ARREST Bush, Cheney, Libby, and the rest of the TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS.
NO PARDONS for these TRAITORS to the USA...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmRingo,
Go Cheney Yourself.
Georgie oversaw the most executions of ANY state!
How about the Death Row inmate they wouldn't even give a prostetic leg to, so he could WALK to his death?
You are a scumbag.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmJosh Marshall at The Washington Monthly has this to say and I think he hits the nail directly on the head:
As you've no doubt already heard shouted from near every rooftop, President Bush has commuted Scooter Libby's prison sentence. Specifically, the conviction stands -- the fine and probation stand. Libby just doesn't have to spend a day in prison.
Now, here's the key to this.
There is a conceivable argument --- a very poor one but a conceivable one --- for pardoning Scooter Libby, presumably on the argument that the entire prosecution was political and thus illegitimate. But what conceivable argument does the president have for micromanaging the sentence? To decide that the conviction is appropriate, that probation is appropriate, that a substantial fine is appropriate --- just no prison sentence.
This is being treated in the press as splitting the difference, an elegant compromise. But it is the least justifiable approach. The president has decided that the sentencing guidelines and the opinion of judge don't cut it.
The only basis for this decision is that Libby is the vice president's friend, the vice president rules the president and this was the minimum necessary to keep the man silent.
Little Scooter's prison sentence was precisely within sentencing guidelines for the offense of which he was conducted. It is disingenuous for GDumbya to call that "excessive". He has once again stuck a sharp stick in the eye of justice in this country. There is a strong parallel to be drawn here between this travesty and his politicization of the Supreme Court and the DOJ.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmComment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Wise words indeed, CT.
The Lefties are should get used to the disappointment.
They will find out soon enough that we do not live in their fantasy fun land, with casual unprotected sex with multiple partners, LSD, and unadulterated Stalinism.
Mr. President †
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmPhone and Email addresses for your Congressmen and women. CALL! WRITE!! This is appalling!
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
Which one? Rollover Nancy or Cave-in Harry? They won't help, they'll bluster, and bury the whole thing. They've had to replace the "DELETE" button on Democrat computers eight times just this year, and the shredders are working overtime to dump the letters of outrage.
Frankenstein rakes are the only thing to get their attention. Our government isn't afraid of the people....
..and right now, there's a bunch of millionaires swishing brandy snifters and grinning from ear-to-ear. And our troops still are dying. The hyenas are running the show.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
Oh, thanks for reminding me. I can't wait to watch Countdown tonight!! Keith will have a field day. And, Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame were and are loyal to this ocuntry. They have both served this country well. If what happened to them as loyal Americans is what comes from this Administration as a result of getting in their way, I would love to know just where this Administration's loyalties really lie..? Because, it ain't here.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmOh, give the shrub a break. He's merely doing what he's ordered to do by the Cheney branch of government. You know, exec, legislative, judicial, and cheney (who supercedes all). Gag me with a spoon.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmThe CIA spies need to "take care" of Libby. PERMANENTLY...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmTrueBlue,
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmI'm glad that Hillary will have dictatorial powers. We've got to herd the wingers into camps or something. We can't let them screw up the country again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmA jury sat there and listened and deliberated. The jury system is in ruins and Bush has forever changed this country.There is no credibility for law and order. What happened to the Border Patrol agents who were doing their job who were made to be prosecuted by Bush via the Attorney General's Office over the advice of the deputy attorney generals? Now, it appears only if you work directly for Bush do you receive commuting.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pmHey Frank.
Your moms here.
Want I should send her over?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
Son, I must tell you the truth, you are my son, and the woman that you just finished fcking is your mother.
I am sorry son for not telling you sooner.
Blessed be Allah and the prophet Muahmed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pmTrueBlue,
That sure would be a waste of a perfectly good prosthetic leg, just to walk a few yards.
/sarcasm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pm"ALLAHU AKBAR, Scooter!!!" Y'ALL-Queda!!!
---TRAITOR Bush the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pmAnyone really surprised?...it's Iran-Contra all over again. The rule of law doesn't apply to Republicans who commit treasonous acts. It's pretty obvious that Dick got the message from Scooter that he was prepared to roll if the pardon wasn't done. The cowards were hoping they could stretch the appeal out to the end of their term and then pull the pardon card, but Justcie said otherwise. Better to have it done now and use it against the "Law and Order Party"....just another principle that they can no longer lie about.
"excessive sentence?"...yeah, a day in jail would be too tough for these Republican putzes.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pmComment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Why would I apologize?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pmDamn, wheres the casual unadulterated unprotected sex at?
Where's the LSD,
I already know where the Stalinism is, its right in my heart...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmThis is not a surprise. The Rule of law means nothing to this administration and is yet another example of why Cheney and then Bush should be impeached.
The legal issue was that he lied to a Grand Jury. It's what he was convicted of and Bush saying the sentence was too harsh is nothing but the height of hypocrisy. Radical Right wingers will crow about this and with the same breath consider themselves the "Law And Order" party.
This is yet another example of Republican corruption in the White House.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmWonder how long it will take tonight before Olbermann's head explodes?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmGO GET HIM, CIA spies!!! TURN HIM UP!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmNow that all of the Repuppetcans have had their orgasms, who really didn't see this coming (get it), I mean who's gonna do anything about it, you, me, the not-so-oppostion party.
This country is falling apart.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so Mr. Libby could be free.
Or as the POTUS calls him ,,,,, comma #1462
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmI’m a spoiled brat who fails at everything I do, but I can still shove it to the American people and do anything I want! Fcuk you, America!
Comment by Mr. President
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmIf indeed you are Mr. President I get the joke. But judging from Mr. P's post I would be skeptic.
Why would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Why wouldn't you apologize? You are wrong.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pm#67
Libby didn't commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pmLibetrolls,
You are all political windbags. Sentencing-through-wing-nut-ideology is your game. Please recognize that given Mr. Libby's standing and goodness in society, Judge Walton should have departed from sentencing guidelines and handed down this probationary sentence.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pmWhy would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Why wouldn’t you apologize? You are wrong.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
yeap, that's the problem with mental midgets like Zooey, they don't know when to admit they are wrong because they are too ignorant to know when they are wrong.
I am embarrassed for you Zooey, my poor mental midget.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmAny time an event gets the lunatic left reacting in this manner is a GREAT day!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmAny normal person's head has already exploded.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmNow if we can just get that wall built..
Comment by Frank J — July 2, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
What, and block out that cheap labor market...ain't gonna happen, not with your president in charge....
So because Congress doesn't go along with Dumbya's plan, the retribution is no funds for border security....as poor 'ol Skeletor Chertoff said....he'd like to have the best stuff but we'll just have to make due with what we have now because the Senate left any hope of improving our security on the Senate floor....
Bush/Cheney....Hijacking fear and border security since 2001.
And you Frankly NoNads are part of the F#*KING problem
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmRight-wingers, what are you cheering about??? A jury CONVICTED this crminal of obstructing the case of a CIA operative being outed. They convicted him for repeatedly LYING so the truth could not be discovered. Plame was the top expert on Iraq's nuclear proliferation. She devoted her life to keeping us safe. Her husband was the US ambassador in Iraq who DEFIED Saddam in the first Gulf War, and was called a hero by George H. Bush for his efforts.
You are cheering a CRIMINAL being set free, and attacking American heros.
Get out of my country now. You are not Americans. You are a bunch of brainwashed fascists if you support this decision.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmHi Tracy,
Don't take cuts in front of me in the head-chopping line. I was here first.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmFunny, For Truth.
I'm just so angry right now it's going to take a minute to actually register.
:(
P.S.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmThey can recycle it for one of our poor veterans languishing @ Walter Reed, or at home *Waiting* for services.
Why would a CIA agent shoot Libby? He outed an Al Qaeda operative in Valarie Plame.
Comment by Frank J — July 2, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
No. The treasonous bÄ…stard outed a covert CIA operative in Valarie Plame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmOne to cover a blow job, the other to cover for treason.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmWell, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by Tom
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by JschmoAZ
Wow, doesn't KKKarl tell you idiot trolls to rewrite your talking points before posting them here. At least play with the punctuation. You neocon nazis are getting dumber every day. Does fascism kill brain cells, apparently.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmWhy wouldn’t you apologize? You are wrong.
Comment by Zooey
It takes a man to admit wrong and apologize.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmPIPpy is just a child.
#55
According to people here it is.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmIf indeed you are Mr. President I get the joke. But judging from Mr. P’s post I would be skeptic.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
That was not me.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pm#67
Libby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
EXACTLY!!! but when I did it, my left wing sycophant followers justified it and defended me. When a Republican does exactly the same thing, then they call it a crime.
isn't it pathetic and quite laughable the level of partisanship in this nation.
I LOVE IT!!! EASY TO CONTROL THE MASSES!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmLibby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
No he didn't.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pm#211
I guess breaking the law is relative to you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmWasn’t Bush the governor who executed the mentally retarded?
Comment by Ringo — July 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Yes. Bush is the lowest peice of human scum to ever stain the face of this planet, and like his mentor, Adolf Hitler, he executed the mentally handicapped.
JUST LIKE HITLER.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmWhy wouldn’t you apologize? You are wrong.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
What are you even talking about?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmyeap, that’s the problem with mental midgets like Zooey, they don’t know when to admit they are wrong because they are too ignorant to know when they are wrong.
I am embarrassed for you Zooey, my poor mental midget.
Comment by Conservatron — July 2, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
Blah blah blah, President Clinton/valiantthehater. You don't have the first idea what you're talking about.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmOf course these criminals protect each other.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmSo his reasoning is that the sentence was excessive. Since he will not be going to jail at all I guess he believes the judge should have not given him anytime. I am sure there are a lot of people serving obstruction of justice time that wished that could get a deal like that!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmLibby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Actually, TRAITOR Libby was CONVICTED of PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION.
Clinton was NOT.
And it was also made clear in Libby's trial that Libby, Armitage, and Rove were ALL directed by Cheney to expose Valerie Wilson's identity.
THAT is why Fitzgerald said there is a "cloud" over Cheney and his Office.
And Fitz has THREE MORE YEARS to do his investigation.
ONLY HE can end it. He has NOT yet done so.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmScooter did not out Valerie Plame. Richard Armitage did. Scooter was convicted for something the Clintoons do every day. Forget things that happened.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmLEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
America has lost, Americans have lost, Democracy has lost. You Bushco supporters are the only people too stupid to know you have lost too.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmBush has once again shown his utter disdain and his total lack of regard for the rule of law that is the essential backbone of this country and our democracy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmAnd, I can just see Cheney lurking in the shadows on this one. He must be using that vulcan mind-meld again..
His hand is definitely in this..
Someone will write Libby a check to pay off his fine and he will continue to keep his mouth shut. This is the MOST corrupt gang of thugs and crooks I have EVER seen in office in my lifetime!!!!!!
Nitrogenous Frank,
This is a great day. The message to the world is: It's ok to blow the cover of CIA agents, who are protecting us, therefore its ok to reduce our national security. Therefore giving the Islamo-Stalinists a leg up on their mission. Truly a great day indeed!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmRaise your hand if you are misinformed that Libby outed Plame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmBush yapping about a harsh sentence for Libby is hypocrisy, because the 2 US border guards that shot a Mexican drug runner in the ass, who was trying to smuggle in hundreds of pounds of pot, got sentences of 10 to 20 years in prison and Bush has refused to pardon them or reduce their time in jail. Libby should have gotten at least 5 to 10 years in prison.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmThe next President of the United States had this to say on the topic:
Fred Thompson on Libby
NBC ^ | 7/2/07 | Joel Seidman
Likely presidential candidate Fred Thompson (R) released this statement: "I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children. While for a long time I have urged a pardon for Scooter, I respect the President's decision. This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life."
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July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pm#217
Care to elaborate.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:40 pmIt takes a man to admit wrong and apologize.
PIPpy is just a child.
Comment by Wayne — July 2, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
I guess I gave him too much credit.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:40 pmJust a couple of GOOD CIA MARKSMEN, boys.
Go "take care" of Libby!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:40 pmBush's approval will drop another 5 points at least because of this.
The MSM will shower him with praise. Broder is salivating right now.
The Democrats will bitch, but do nothing as usual. Remember, "impeachment is off the table".
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:41 pmThis country is falling apart.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so Mr. Libby could be free.
Or as the POTUS calls him ,,,,, comma #1462
Comment by Tired Of Fighting — July 2, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
Does everybody get this?
This parent is grieving a lost son. Lost for no good reason.
I'm lucky. Minblue has a condition that will exclude her from service. I can still hug her.
Do you a$$bag trolls GET that?
---------------------------------------
Tired,
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for your post.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:41 pm#71
What are we gonna say that will make them all of a sudden act like what they were put into office to do?
It's time to just lay down go to sleep and wake up when its all over. This Presidents knows no bounds, the Congress has no balls, and the people have no clue.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so that liars and cheats could be free
AKA comma #1462 to the POTUS
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:41 pmThere's no need to troll this thread. The regulars are entertaining enough all by themselves.
When I saw this news, I knew you guys wouldn't let me down.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:42 pmHillary and Obama might try and "triangulate" here.
Watch out, especially on the Hillary side...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmThough a little premature, decision to commute was the right one.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/07/though-premature-bushs-commutation-of.html#links
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmCare to elaborate.
Sure:
TRAITOR Libby was CONVICTED of PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION.
Clinton was NOT.
And it was also made clear in Libby’s trial that Libby, Armitage, and Rove were ALL directed by Cheney to expose Valerie Wilson’s identity.
THAT is why Fitzgerald said there is a “cloud†over Cheney and his Office.
And Fitz has THREE MORE YEARS to do his investigation.
ONLY HE can end it. He has NOT yet done so.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmLOL,
What is it about second rate actors that seem to get the republicans so hard? I mean c'mon Fred Thompson? I sincerely doubt he will ever be president.
I love that the response from the right is haha we win you lose, how childish can you get?
On topic; not a huge surprise to be honest, Bush has to protect his interests.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmYou are cheering a CRIMINAL being set free, and attacking American heros.
Years behind! The events you are discussing happened in January 2001.
Clinton, Rich, and Rostentowski!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmBush's approval will drop by another 5 points or so.
The MSM will shower him with praise for this.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmI liked the Clinton years but they are over. Can you dipshits understand this? What is your freaking problem. Can your boy not stand on his own without your endless but Clinton, Clinton, Clinton crap. Seems obsessive. Weirdos!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmLibby's crimes were much more extensive than Clinton's. Stop lying. Clinton was not even charged with perjury. The crime of perjury can only be committed if you lie about something material to the case. Stating you were not at a location a crime was committed when you actually were is perjury. The Lewinsky question was not material to the Paula Jones case at all, which is why there was no charge of perjury against Clinton in that case.
Also Libby had MULTIPLE counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. He lied about something direcly material to his case, which is why he was charged and convicted by a jury.
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That's FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmI've discovered getting all angry over it doesn't help anything. Accept hurt my own blood pressure. In all actuality, most of these issues have no effect on our daily lives. It's all about ideas.
Most of this is out of our control. What do we do? Write our f*cking Congress People? Gimme a break. That's a joke.
America asked for this President, we get what we ask for. Most people are dumb morons, the smart ones know this is all bullcrap. The conservative smart ones are addicted to money and power.
Get your popcorn and watch the ride. This is only gonna get better.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmWe are no longer a nation of laws. If you are high ranking politically, you are above the law.
Hi, my name is Roger Clinton. My slick brother set me free!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmLibby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
No he didn’t.
Comment by Nat — July 2, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
yes, he did, perjury and obstruction of justice, I was also accused of this and a judge took away my law licenses and put a fine on me for committing these crimes.
I would say get an education, but you would stop voting Democratic.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmBush thinks reducing Libby's sentence is being patriotic for the 4th of July holiday, but it's an outrage > PERIOD.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmBetter yet....raise both hands if you're a Bush supporter...
Good...
Now use them to take your head outta your ass.
That is all....class dismissed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmLibby’s crimes were much more extensive than Clinton’s. Stop lying. Clinton was not even charged with perjury. The crime of perjury can only be committed if you lie about something material to the case. Stating you were not at a location a crime was committed when you actually were is perjury. The Lewinsky question was not material to the Paula Jones case at all, which is why there was no charge of perjury against Clinton in that case.
Also Libby had MULTIPLE counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. He lied about something direcly material to his case, which is why he was charged and convicted by a jury.
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That’s FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
Absolutely correct!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmLibby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath.
Comment by Glen
If we still had a Department of Justice, this troll should be brought up for treason and hung as a traitor. Nice job blaming the people who have devoted their lives protecting this country for the shit pile brought to us by Bushco.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmLibby’s crimes were much more extensive than Clinton’s. Stop lying. Clinton was not even charged with perjury. The crime of perjury can only be committed if you lie about something material to the case. Stating you were not at a location a crime was committed when you actually were is perjury. The Lewinsky question was not material to the Paula Jones case at all, which is why there was no charge of perjury against Clinton in that case.
Also Libby had MULTIPLE counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. He lied about something direcly material to his case, which is why he was charged and convicted by a jury.
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That’s FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
Comment by TheCrapture — July 2, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Sorry, Clinton was charged with perjury and obstruction of justice, to name two of the impeacheable offenses he wash charged with.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmContempt for the Constitution and the rule of law = valid and appropriate reasons to impeach. gonzo, the big dick, and the Worst President in the History of the United States. Now is the time, Congress.....
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmTo drive the moonbats even crazier Bush should now give Libby; Valarie Plames old job. It would be first time we have had an American in that position in a long time.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pm#244
Oh, sorry Clinton was just impeached by the House of Representatives for perjury and obstruction. The fact that the votes didn't come to remove him doesn't mean he wasn't guilty.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pm#225 Scooter did not out Valerie Plame. Richard Armitage did. Scooter was convicted for something the Clintoons do every day. Forget things that happened.
Comment by null
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmWe are not talking about outing, but some will. The fact is Scooter lied several times under oath and if you did you'd go to prison if you didn't work for Bush.
I’ve discovered getting all angry over it doesn’t help anything. Accept hurt my own blood pressure. In all actuality, most of these issues have no effect on our daily lives. It’s all about ideas.
Most of this is out of our control. What do we do? Write our f*cking Congress People? Gimme a break. That’s a joke.
America asked for this President, we get what we ask for. Most people are dumb morons, the smart ones know this is all bullcrap. The conservative smart ones are addicted to money and power.
Get your popcorn and watch the ride. This is only gonna get better.
Comment by ForTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Now you're talkin'!!!
I figured that out about 8 years ago!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmTracy: "Raise your hand if you are misinformed that Libby outed Plame."
Young lady, nobody is arguing that. Scooter Libby obstructed the investigation into who ordered the outing of a covert operative. For that crime, he was found guilty of obstruction of justice. Clinton was not found guilty of obstruction of justice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmHi, my name is Roger Clinton. My slick brother set me free!
Hi, MY name is ORLANDO BOSCH, an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST.
Dubya's DADDY set ME free.
So, I can be a TERRORIST who lives in Miami to this day...
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:47 pm#236
SGT Stephen R. Sherman was not my child, he was my Soldier, and I miss him as if he were my own.
thx
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so the right could call us traitors
or as the POTUS calls him comma #1462
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:47 pmI guess I gave him too much credit.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Ummmm... you just provided a link that showed ForTruth admitting it was an Islamo-Stalinist...
Why would I apologize?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmBush should totally give Libby Val's old job. Then out him. Haha.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmRaise your hand if you are misinformed that Libby outed Plame.
If you recall, he was one of those directed by Cheney to get this out their in order to payback Joe Wilson for his exposing their wonderful forged Niger documents that started this whole stupid war.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmLibby was going to prison for lying under oath to investigators and obstructing justice. He broke the law, and like other Americans who break the law, he was going to have to pay for it (even if he was ordered by someone else to do it).
President Clinton,
Your followers adored it when you stroked you pardon pen. What makes this one suddenly disgraceful? You hypocratic sh!tbag!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmJeez, I'm only 100 comments in, and the quality of the troll
taunting has really gone down since last I bothered with
the comments.
Fire these immature clowns! We want the entertaining
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmtrolls back!
This President can not possibly disgrace our troops and our country more than this. And he has to hold private meetings to figure out why he is not so popular? While our soldiers fight and die for his war, he excuses those who would cut them down from behind. Support our troops? What a farce.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmM12
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmWhich political high rank did Old Rog hold? Can this discussion be about the right/wrong of the Libby situation not any old Clinton shit? Explain to me why you support this decision. If it makes sense I might be persuaded. If it is jsut more Clinton did it crap, I can not in good conscience listen to your opinions. Thanks. I await your informed, logical, and consistent response
#245
The presidential bitch of a candidate is leading the Democratic pack...I think. She is of the same power hungry mindset as her husband...probably worse. We don't want a repeat.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmBush's Father did alot this weekend for his baby boy. Mommy Bush made cookies for President Putin to soften him up. Daddy Bush helped his son with the powerful Russian President who didn't bring his parents. Now Americans and the world know that if your convicted of a crime and your a loyal GOP plus you have lied for the Vice President you will never have to pay for those crimes. Libby never admitted to his crime or said it was wrong yet that means nothing.
Libby will be rewarded for his crimes and most likely appointed our next Attorney General. Judges and Courts have just been put in their place, even the Appeals Court means nothing.
Bush should allow lawyers to know they aren't allowed to prosecute any Republicans and save the taxpayer and jurors time and money. This is a good day for criminals and a bad day for Justice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pm#244
Oh, sorry Clinton was just impeached by the House of Representatives for perjury and obstruction. The fact that the votes didn’t come to remove him doesn’t mean he wasn’t guilty.
Comment by Tracy
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmActually, he was not found guilty, you're right. He was not removed from office. Bush probably would not be either, but he needs to face impeachment. To deny our country the due process taken from it by this admin. is to stand in the land of Oz with poppy fields placing you to sleep.
Bush waited to do this after the Congress went on vacation for the 4th of July holiday. They do not come back till next week, so will Bush attack Iran after the 4th, before the Congress returns on the 9th of July?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pmGee, it's good to be the President's friend...
I think it's time your government guys removed Clemency from the President's powers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pmThe "Lefties" didn't lose today, Americans lost today.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pmTired Of Fighting,
Sorry for the mistake, but I know you must think about him everyday.
He was your family, blood or not. (Brothers in Arms)
Thank you for honoring his memory.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:52 pmFire these immature clowns! We want the entertaining
trolls back!
Comment by DemandTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
Excuse me sir.
That is not your decision to make.
Take it up with the Dean if you have a problem.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:52 pmWhere are the communtation of the sentences given to border agents Ramos and Campaneas?
Oh wait, they are not FRIENDS of the president!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:54 pmBush is a very dangerous man right now. More so than ever. He has nothing to lose, doesn't care about anything except his way or the highway.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:54 pm“Libby was convicted in March of lying to authorities and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative's identity. He was the highest-ranking White House official ordered to prison since the Iran-Contra affairâ€
………and before that, it was Watergate……YES Virginia, there is a pattern here….GOP=corrupt…..
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pmI didn't lose sh!t. We are closer to getting our heads chopped now that its ok to f*ck up National Security.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pmGlen: "Libby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath."
Wow. Talk about pulling bull out of your butt. Valerie Plame, for the umpteenth time, was a Non-official covert operative who ran a CIA front company called Brewster Jennings Associates. The reason the CIA initiated a criminal inquiry into her outing was that she was a covert operative. Her job was to track the illegal proliferation of nuclear technology and mainly centered on Iran. As a NOC, she was often in situations where she could have been arrested and the CIA would have to disavow their connection to her. So, she was kind of like a "Mission Impossible" character. The people you say deserve medals ruined her career. If this was another Mission Impossible movie, they would be the villans.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pm#273, Jay Randal,
If I was Reid, I'd hussle them right the h*ll back into session.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pm#266 President Clinton,
Your followers adored it when you stroked you pardon pen. What makes this one suddenly disgraceful? You hypocratic sh!tbag!
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:56 pmI'm sorry. Could you inform us of the pardoned ( oh, I'm sorry, commuted) person who's president shifted his stance and raised such a clamour across the wide breadth of America left and right?
Why would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Whatever.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 pm#260
Tell that to Nat. So Clinton was not impeached by the House of Representatives for purjury and obstruction? History says otherwise. BTW it's not young lady. What's up with false projection?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 pmIs that why Putin is up in Maine for a few days, so Bush and his dad can force Putin to agree to allow US/Israel to bomb the crap out of Iran before next Monday?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmTracy you might want to suggest to the RNC that the Presidential powers get reeled in. We wouldn't want Hillabitch to have the same power as King George now wouldn't we?
I can see the Conservatards going ape shit (de-volving) when Hillabitch gets her way.
We'll be arguing on this board about it. Just wait.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmImpeach.
~Sean
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmExcellent news! The GOP can now kiss their chances in 2008 goodbye ... All to protect one of the members of the BushCo crime family. The Dems don't have to do any work now. The GOP is going sacrifice Bush and Cheney before these criminals can drag them down any lower.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmTracy,
Noone really gives a flying f*ck who you want for President. Too bad you don't have any money because you could bet that the next President will be a Democrat, a true American not these Repugnicunt whores you so admire.
The one good thing that this sticky pile of sh*t in the White House is done is expose the radical right for what they are and has marginalized the Repugnicunts for years.
Watch on the sidelines you pukes, while the real Americans turn this ship around.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmWhat more bush crimes and total disregard for the law does Mrs. Impeachment is off the table" need?
This time if she does not hear us, it's time to listen to Roseanne Barr. (yup, the comedian)
http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/index.php
"Here goes: recall Pelosi! Any democrat who votes with the president on sending one billion dollars a day out of america is a traitor to the working people of this country too! STOP THIS WAR!!! BUSH IS BLEEDING THIS COUNTRY DRY WITH NO BID CONTRACTS WHICH ROB OUR SOLDIERS OF DECENT PAY AND MEDICAL BENEFITS!!!! SAVE OUR TROOPS!!!"
This is followup to her previous rant:
June 28, 2007
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:59 pmIMPEACH....
IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE PRESIDENT, THEY ARE TRAITORS TO AMERICA, AND SO ARE ALL OF THEIR SUPPORTERS. IMPEACH! ANYONE IN CONGRESS WHO REFUSES TO SAVE OUR UNION FROM THESE TRAITORS BY DOING NOTHING NEEDS TO BE RECALLED. SAVE OUR TROOPS!!! SAVE OUR SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS AND JOBS. FEED OUR HUNGRY AND POOR! SAVE THE DROWNING PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS! ANYONE WHO MENTIONS PARIS HILTON ONE MORE TIME MUST DIE!
#266
"If you recall, he was one of those directed by Cheney to get this out their in order to payback Joe Wilson"
And yes this has all been proven in a court of law. Nice try.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:59 pmOUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmI would have thought you dopes on the left would have been smart enough to have seen this coming?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmNow I guess Mr. Libby will get a job at Fixed er Fox News, and get a War Stories show like Mr. North that other "patriot". Or maybe a job at Murdoch's Wall Street Journal (it's just a matter of time), then he can tell us all about the "rule of law" and how to break it.
Now for all you "Clinton did it too er's" This president ran on a platform that said he would be totally different than Mr. Clinton, and that he would bring Honor and Integrity back to the White House. If any of you can come out from under your man crushes and truly say without a shadow of a doubt that.............. aw forget it. HAPPY LIBBYPENDENCE DAY!!!!!
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the the POTUS and the "Law and Order" Repuppetcan's call him,,,,,,,,,,,,,comma #1462
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmDean of Trolls: "Your followers adored it when you stroked you pardon pen. What makes this one suddenly disgraceful? You hypocratic sh!tbag!"
George HW Bush's pardons included:
3 indicted co-conspirators in Iran Contra who were scheduled to testify as to his part in the scandal
The head of Occidental Petroleum who had given big bucks to his campaign.
A convicted heroin smuggler 2 years into a 55-year sentence for bringing a huge amount of heroin into the country.
Somehow, the same "liberal media" which was outraged when Clinton pardoned a fugitive financier at the personal request of the Prime Minister of Israel had nothing to say about the elder Bush's pardons.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmIf this was another Mission Impossible movie, they would be the villans.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
If this was a Mission Impossible Movie, Libby, Cheney and anyone involved in the leak would have been found with a bullet in their heads.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pm#273
"Actually, he was not found guilty, you’re right."
He was guilty though...just not found guilty by an all powerful unaccountable judge.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmTell that to Nat. So Clinton was not impeached by the House of Representatives for purjury and obstruction? History says otherwise. BTW it’s not young lady. What’s up with false projection?
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
An impeachment is not a conviction, it's an indictment. Unlike Libby, Clinton wasn't convicted - idiot.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmWhatever.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Okay. Did I miss something here?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmThey gotta protect this PNAC man, cuz he knows the plan, he knows more dirt than he should. Its worth the political fallout to protect the secrets of Bush/Cheney. They know how bad they've been.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmtrueblue > Reid and Pelosi might have already agreed to let Bush attack Iran while they are on vacation. From July 5th to the 8th are 4 days of extreme danger for our nation. If Bush attacks Iran, then global WWIII begins.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 pmJustice is Dead! R.I.P.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 pmBush's statement today is, of course, a far cry from the sterling ethical standard he promised to uphold in the run-up to the 2000 presidential election. At the Republican National Convention in August 2000, Bush pompously declared:
That October, then-Governor Bush introduced his soon-to-be aborted "what is right" standard of White House ethics:
For the full story, see:
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pm"Neither Right Nor Legal: Bush Commutes Libby's Sentence."
Libby's gonna be a visiting scholar at AEI. Sharing an office with Spithead.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pmHe was guilty though…just not found guilty by an all powerful unaccountable judge. Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
So now you believe in guilty until proven innocent? BAHAHAHA, how *fascist* of you dum bass!
No, he wasn't guilty of anything, except being the victim of a wingnut witchhunt. Whereas libby was involved in outing a CIA operation, and trying to cover up the actions.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pmTracy: "And yes this has all been proven in a court of law. Nice try."
OMG. Libby is convicted for obstructing the investigation into this and now you pretend to have some respect for the law??!! Nice try.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pmComment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Wise words indeed, CT.
The Lefties are should get used to the disappointment.
They will find out soon enough that we do not live in their fantasy fun land, with casual unprotected sex with multiple partners, LSD, and unadulterated Stalinism.
Mr. President â€
Comment by Mr. President
Why don't you two pretty boys go get a room so we don't have to witness your circle jerk here. Or are you two already in a room, sitting on opposite sides of the bed, naked and winking to each other. Oh is that other happy a$$hole, Troll Clinton, sitting between you two on that dirty Motel 6 bedspread?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pm#273
What charges for impeachment would you bring exactly?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmIt is 'The Jury vs. The Decider'
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmMoral of story: If you tell the truth and work to prevent WMD from falling into radical Islamist hands like Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson---you get retaliation from the Cheney-Bush administration. If you help lie us into an illegal counter-productive war, costing one million lives and over two Trillion dollars, then you get protected.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmTell that to Nat. So Clinton was not impeached by the House of Representatives for purjury and obstruction? History says otherwise. BTW it’s not young lady. What’s up with false projection?
Yup, IMPEACHED (brought to TRIAL),
NOT Convicted!!
Libby was CONVICTED on FOUR FELONY COUNTS...
So, why DO you "false project"???
And Marc Rich's LAWYER was.....
SCOOTER LIBBY!!!
And Daddy Bush pardoned Orlando Bosch, an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST who STILL lives in Miami...
I suppose an ISLAMOTerrorist azzhole-licker of Saudi OIL WHOREBAG Bush like YOU thinks that's GREAT, right???
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmOkay. Did I miss something here?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Oh dear boy, you miss *everything* that requires more than a gradeschool level intellect...
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pm“If you recall, he was one of those directed by Cheney to get this out their in order to payback Joe Wilsonâ€
And yes this has all been proven in a court of law. Nice try.
What WAS proven in a court of law, was that he lied under oath and obstructed a federal investigation. That IS still a criminal offense in this country. He WAS found guilty and he should have to pay the penalty like ANY other American would have to (unless they were tight with this Administration.
That could never happen though because he knows too much. They knew they were going to do this all along. The fee of $250,000 won't be paid by him. He will be rewarded nicely for his silence. His family will be taken care of. He is a good soldier for this rogue Administration. They look out for their own. Mob mentality. The law is irrelevant.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmIt is a very sad day indeed.
Bush has commuted Bin Laden's sentence since 9/11. Why wouldn't he offer the same courtesy to convicted felon Irve Libby.
-GSD
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmWhat charges for impeachment would you bring exactly?
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
BAHAHA, where should we begin? Lying to congress. Compromising national security. Corruption, and coverup. We can go on, and on. You must be from texas, because you're so dum you're TEXAS DUMB!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmI will be back > going to watch Wolf Blitzer on CNN spin this story.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmI would have thought you dopes on the left would have been smart enough to have seen this coming? - michael
Quite so. But of course you geniuses on the right must surely understand that full-on dual Impeachment is now the sole remaining remedy to restore the rule of law, our Constitution, and our most fundamental American principles?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmMoral of story: If you tell the truth and work to prevent WMD from falling into radical Islamist hands like Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson—you get retaliation from the Cheney-Bush administration. If you help lie us into an illegal counter-productive war, costing one million lives and over two Trillion dollars, then you get protected.
And a MEDAL OF "freedom", too!
Have they set the date for scooter's medal ceremony yet??
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmOMFG! I am outraged by this Admin’s DISGUSTING behavior. I am SO ready for torches and pitchforks. When the H*LL will Impeachment be put back on the stinkin’ table? (Sorry for the cap’s. I’m really pissed.)
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
Whah, this is jest horrendous. Pardoning a terrible criminal lahk Libby, who, um, er, lahd--about a, um, non-crime.
Jest terrible.
When ah pardoned them terrorists, fugitives, cronies, criminals and crooked campaign contributors, shucks, ah was doing it faw thu good uhv the country.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmWhy don’t you two pretty boys go get a room so we don’t have to witness your circle jerk here. Or are you two already in a room, sitting on opposite sides of the bed, naked and winking to each other. Oh is that other happy a$$hole, Troll Clinton, sitting between you two on that dirty Motel 6 bedspread? Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
They both seem more like park/truck-stop bathroom types...
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmBy removing Libby’s jail term from his sentence, President Bush once again demonstrates his lack of respect for the American system of law and Democracy as a whole. Bush might as well have offered Libby an outright pardon. Frankly, Libby deserves to serve his time for the crimes he has committed. If the world were fair, Cheney would also see his time in prison. It is vital that we hold on our political leaders accountable for their actions in every arena and on every issue. In the realm of global poverty, for example, we need to push our leadership in Washington to abide by the UN's Millennium Development Goals, which the United States along with 191 other nations signed in 2000 and which commit the global community to eliminating extreme poverty by 2025. So as Bush saves Libby from being held accountable for his illegal and undemocratic actions, we are compelled to think about what our other political leaders are doing (or, rather, what they aren’t doing) and hold them accountable, just as we have tried to hold Libby accountable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:07 pmBush's 2000 speech crap was a manipulation taking advantage of the bad taste in the collective public mouth (no pun intended) from Clinton's oval office orgasm. Bush just read it out loud.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:07 pmThis President made statements to the American people that he wanted to get to the bottom of any leak that came from his administration.
This is just an example of the haves & the have-mores doing for their own before doing for the American people. Integrity? What’s that? Moral compass? What’s that??
Oh yeah, election after election these guys claimed some sort of moral high-ground as supposedly serving the religious right and yet when push comes to shove, they turn a blind eye toward personal responsibility, doing unto others, and work hardest at protecting their big-business friends who benefit from illegal immigration and tax loopholes left and right. Never mind no-bid contracts, war profiteering, and flipping off the environment every chance they get.
Self-serving bastards. I’m sick about this - you know I USED to be a Republican but between this and Bush’s pro-immigration/pro-business amnesty positions, never mind the Iraq war disaster, I’m SO over them.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 pmGuys, calm down. The whole GOP are sh&t'n a brick right about now.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 pm"CNN's legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said that 'This is a complete departure from the usual procedure. Scooter Libby is getting a very special brand of justice. He is getting enormous privileges that are not available to ordinary criminal convicts.'"
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 pmlet's go to Washington...
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:09 pmone more win for the good guys
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:09 pmMr Libby will be starting his new career with a Fox News show next week /sarcasm off
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:09 pmTracy, just read John Dean's "Worse than Watergate." That was published in 2004 and Dean had already found about four solid articles for impeachment. Since then, Bush has broken the Geneva Convention Treaty (a constitutional crime), broken FISA law (a consitutional crime), engaged in election fraud (caging), broken the Hatch Act, broken the Intelligence Identities Act, and refused numerous attempts by Congress to provide documentation for official acts (arguably a constitutional crime.)
This administration will be recognized as the most lawless in history. The vast majority of Constitutional scholars are already in agreement on that
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:10 pmWhen Daddy Bush pardoned Elliott Abrams, John Pointdexter, etc., for their TREASON in Iran/Contra, he called these CRIMINALS
"patriots".
For covering HIS azz like Libby is covering boyidiot.
Abrams, Pointdexter and Negroponte STILL work for THIS administration.
Imagine THAT!
An "administration" of THUGS and WAR CRIMINALS...
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 pmI just love how the trolls are using 1) Sandy Berger did it or 2) BIll CLinton did it.
Do you trolls actually think two wrongs make a right?
If Bill Clinton is such a bad president then why do you guys strive to be exactly like him?
Why do you want your president to do everything that Bill Clinton did?
Fu*k, I don't like Bill Clinton as much as the trolls do. They worship and adore him like nobody else.
Nuckin' futz!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 pmThe Soprano's are running this fu*king country. The community, our community, that is being trashed by this mafia revolts, starting yesterday. The revolution must be in progress. Fu*k. These. Hacktrons.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 pmCorrupticons, go to Hell, Hell, Hell. You will reap what you sew.
#289
She would actually have to get elected though.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:12 pmI’m sorry. Could you inform us of the pardoned ( oh, I’m sorry, commuted) person who’s president shifted his stance and raised such a clamour across the wide breadth of America left and right?
Comment by leftcoast
Ahem.
Mr. Leftcoast,
The President's decision today was fair and apolitical. It took into account the good deeds while taking into account his conviction. That averaged out to be his two-year probationary sentence and a stiff fine. Word-of-mouf crimes for a man of his character absolutely do not merit any prison time.
This was a consistent and fair practice of presidential powers.
Please contact Mr. President if you have any further inquiries. He would be the final contact for any needed clarification.
Signed,
The Dean, CT_V1
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:12 pmThe opinions of the jury mean nothing.
The supeneas mean nothing.
The Constitution "is just a Goddamn piece of Paper"
The administration is outside all branches of govenment.
Burn that goddamn house to the ground.
They have disposed of all measures of the rule of law.
There is no law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmJoe DiGinova, former attorney general is talking on CNN. He is trying to rise this to the same level as Susan McDougal, god what an idiot.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmone more win for the good guys
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmre #10, Mr. President, If you think conservatives don't have drugs and casual sex with multiple partners, then you must not get out very much. Do the names Jeff Gannon, Ted Haggard, Tom Foley, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, Newt Gingrich, Ron Reagan, or Hookergate ring a bell? Do you think our coke-head fratboy President was a virgin when he married 36?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmDC is a sovereign Nation. Like Indian Reservations and the Vatican.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pm26% approval by the mentally infirm, and falling. 74% DISGUST, and rising. George Shrub is striving to be the biggest hack of all time. Admirable goal, for a total deuche.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pmSenator Reid - I noticed you said that 'history' will judge President Bush for this decision. F*** history! Why don't you judge President Bush for this decision? Are you gambling that he will destroy his party before he destroys the country? You are either criminally negligent or you have the biggest balls of any American alive.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pm#292
"President will be a Democrat, a true American not these Repugnicunt whores you so admire."
True american...LOL!! Better get a different field of candidates!
"Watch on the sidelines you pukes, while the real Americans turn this ship around."
I guess you mean those in Congress like Pelosi and Reid who have a lower approval rating than Bush...right?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pmSimple solution:
Get a caravan of Prison buses and line them up outside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Remove any and all people within the building and take them directly to Federal prison.
You might have a couple of innocents in there, but not more than a couple.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmi just found out i may be wrong about that...
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmHow can you not impeach after this?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmConservatards don't do drugs or have sex, cuz they say so, and honestly convinced themselves it wasn't what it really was.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmThe GOP is f'd. The GOP is f'd. I'm freak'n celebrating today!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmWhat will I tell the children when they say, "why should I be punished if traitors to my country aren't?"'
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmSection 1-2.113 Standards for Considering Commutation Petitions
A commutation of sentence reduces the period of incarceration; it does not imply forgiveness of the underlying offense, but simply remits a portion of the punishment. It has no effect upon the underlying conviction and does not necessarily reflect upon the fairness of the sentence originally imposed. Requests for commutation generally are not accepted unless and until a person has begun serving that sentence. Nor are commutation requests generally accepted from persons who are presently challenging their convictions or sentences through appeal or other court proceeding.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmRule of law out the window! Yeah go Bush go!
Why are you cheering this righties? Having a king like figure for a president is not a good thing no matter what side of the political aisle you are on.
It won't happen but it is nice to appeal to the online righties to wake up. Understand your "King" really doesn't like you that much, you aren't rich enough and you spend way too much time on the Internets with all us libtards.
Plain and simple you are a useful tool, a herd to be directed, but in the end you are one of us the little guys, you know loyal subjects I mean citizens of King George's US of A. Your sentences simply wouldn't be commuted as you're a serf not a court member.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmImpeachment is too good for these criminals... Time to storm the Bastille!
This makes me sick.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmLibby was a VERY good soldier. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if Bush rewarded him with making his a US Attorney or maybe how about a Supreme Court Justice!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pm#301
Never said he was...moron.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pm"History will judge him"? Reid said that? We judge him, now.
And if Reid stands in the way, then he will be judged the same.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmrachel's talking with jane hamsher now...
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmbetter go to firedoglake and get the real story...
...
Cool! Yea!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmComment by shane
You've lost, I see. You're political transgressions have failed you today, but contrary to your outragous "America loses" claim, it is only your ideology that has failed you.
Keep repeating yourself. I would actually hear fewer repeats from a broken record.
Justice is served, so keep yappin.'
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmMr. Leftcoast,
The President’s decision today was fair and apolitical. It took into account the good deeds while taking into account his conviction. That averaged out to be his two-year probationary sentence and a stiff fine. Word-of-mouf crimes for a man of his character absolutely do not merit any prison time.
This was a consistent and fair practice of presidential powers.
Please contact Mr. President if you have any further inquiries. He would be the final contact for any needed clarification.
Signed,
The Dean, CT_V1
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmThere was nothing excessive about the sentencing guidlines for the offenses committed. But, if you feel so compelled, please address the crack vs. cocaine sentences with the president.
This is NOT APOLITICAL? The judge was conservative, the prosecutor was conservative. The jury was of peers. This was completely outside the acts of the legal process, even if under the constitiution.
F the 'War On Terra'..... it's the
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmWAR ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Impeachment is too good for these criminals… Time to storm the Bastille!
This makes me sick.
Comment by unbelievable
You are absolutely right!!!!
Let's go.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmjane says this is "obstruction of justice"
on bush's part...
yep.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pm"I guess you mean those in Congress like Pelosi and Reid who have a lower approval rating than Bush…right?"
But they only have to do one thing to turn that around, peabrain. Impeach Bush or better yet send to the ICC.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmThis is cool as long as I can take one free commute, if I was ever to be convicted of a Felony.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmBill Clinton did it too.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmUPDATE: Only 21-percent favor a pardon.
They are composed of:
1) The actual REAL percentage ( 21% ) that still supports The Bush / Cheney Crime Family.
a) 10 percent consists of corporate criminal ceo's aligned with the Bush /Cheney Crime Family that operate in the United States.
b) 10 percent are employees and cronys of the corporate criminal ceo's aligned with the Bush /Cheney Crime Family that operate in the United States.
c) 1% are the very lost and mislead Fox News viewers.
That will just about do it for the Republican Party in 2008.
The people of this Country now know.
Our Country IS run by an elite mafia crime family. The RNC.
"He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers."
"He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good."
Time for Congress to RE-Read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html
July 4th, 2007.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pm#314
Never said he was convicted.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmAll trolls who support this decision, in my humble opinion, are now part of the party that has thrown off law and order.
The Republicans have a traditional platform of the being the tough on crime party. That is gone. They have also been the party of fiscal conservatism. They are hypocrites on both counts!!!
Now lets get to the election. MASSIVE SWEEPS IN '08!!!!
Democratic President, and two thirds majority in the house and the Senate.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmI guess I gave him too much credit.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Ummmm… you just provided a link that showed ForTruth admitting it was an Islamo-Stalinist…
Why would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President
Zooey, the only way to deal with this particular troll is to ignore him. He takes any recognition as positive reinforcement. And his name calling is obscene.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmLastly, CT_V1, Dean of Trolls-
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmYou cannot point to a commuted sentence by a president can you?
Woohoooo! Impeach and war crimes trial coming right up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmIf Bush had pardoned Libby, Libby would not have been able to take the 5th if called by Henry Waxman. That's why Bush commuted his sentence instead. In this way, Bush is guilty of obstruction of justice because he is helping to obstruct investigations into his own behavior.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pm#270
First, explain to me why Conyers and Schumer weren't so outraged on Jan. 21, 2001, after Pardongate.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmImpeach the bastard already.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmbullshit - total bullshit. Impeach the bastards NOW!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmThis administration has no accountability.
They are a rogue state!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmI guess OJ Simpson could use a new golf caddy
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 pmconsequences:
1. justice dept. ... naaaaah... gonzo? ... yea, right...
2. (state dept?) police... get them under arrest and removed
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 pmfrom our white house...
#318
Be specific. Is that too hard for you? Maybe your BS definition of specific is "broad".
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 pmCrump
You are dead on. GOP is history. Good ridance!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:23 pmWhat a shocker! This commute caught us all by surprise. Sure! How low can Bush go? We all know he can go as low as he wants to go. Tomorrow, Libby will probably get a job as a CEO with a fat 800 million-dollar paycheck. Why not?
Bush lives at the bottom of the barrel and all of the produce down there is pretty rotten. Let's just say a good apple is very, very, very, hard to find.
For the Republicans, it's party time tonight. Get the weenies, pigs in a blanket, coke ( the drink of course, of course ), and celebrate. I bet Wayne Newton is on his way to Washington right now from Vegas. Libby's first song request?'Danke Schoen'.
EXCESSIVE is the key word. Cough! Cough! I thought 500 American deaths in Iraq were EXCESSIVE. Now we're at 3,500 deaths. Bush doesn't utter a peep about that being EXCESSIVE. No! No! No! No! No! No! A 2 1/2-year Libby sentence, though, is EXCESSIVE. Sure, George.
The cost for the Iraq War is probably going to be in EXCESS of a trillion-dollars. Maybe more. When do you think Bush will call that EXCESSIVE? Don't count on it anytime soon.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmThey will not answer to impeachment. They will invade Iran to distract the public.
They have turned their backs of the rule of law. So sould we.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmClinton did it too!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmA crook pardoning a crook. This only hurts Bush. It doesn't help him. It only makes it look more and more like a cover-up---which it is.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmImpeach Cheney, Bush, Gonzo NOW. Call your leaders. Send faxes and emails. And write letters, we need to flood the mailboxes.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:25 pmImpeach?
Why?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:26 pmSeriously, is there a precedent for a sitting president commuting the sentence of someone who, until convicted, was a member of his extended staff...a subordinate?
This is beyond outrageous.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:27 pmWhat's sad is that his approval rating may not even go down.
All he has left are the toothless banjo players from the deep south!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:27 pmKen Starr and 24 million dollars. You folks who think that Clinton did it to????
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 pm24 million dollars was spent on the "prosecution" (a campaign) that lasted over 4 years to get at Clinton.
McDougal? Rich ? Give me a break. Yeah, oh yeah, they were involved in outing a CIA agent, or knew something about it? They were treasonous?
Any apologies to Valerie Wilson? I am so ashamed of my government.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 pm"...clinically incapable..." - edwards statement
.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 pmhe actually said this on Day 1 years ago for the world to see:
"If there's a leak out of my administration, I wanna know who it is. If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of." -- your president.... "Taken care of," indeed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pm"Yeah Hi Ms. Pelosi, oh you are a staffer? Ok tell Ms. Pelosi to impeach please. Thanks."
Contacting Congresspeople is a joke.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pm#43, Tracy, if Congress' approval rating is lower than Bush's---that DOES NOT mean that Pelosi's and Reid's ratings are lower than Bush's. You don't have much reasoning ability. Also, seperately, the results could mean that the American people are to the LEFT of the Democratic leadership in Congress.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pmMr. Leftcoast,
The actions and credibility of the Judge and Prosecutor, I am not challenging. Libby is a guilty man, and the Judge handed out the lightest prison term possible, if I am correct. Their judgement was fine, but the President apparently felt that his sentence should have departed from sentencing guidelines. That was his course of action taken, I see it to be the best judgment.
Again, nothing against the Judge, Jury, or Prosecutor(s). Libby will still pay substantially. The justice system is NOT compromised, contrary to the raging media and the Democratic political-hacking statements from the Reid/Pelosi gang.
Good blessings.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pmImpeachment is too good for them.
we should kill them. All of them
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmNor are commutation requests generally accepted from persons who are presently challenging their convictions or sentences through appeal or other court proceeding.
Comment by Tom
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmYep, you're right. But, that's what happened today.
m12: "First, explain to me why Conyers and Schumer weren’t so outraged on Jan. 21, 2001, after Pardongate."
#1. Both knew that the previous president had made much more questionable pardons - indicted co-conpirators, illegal campaign contributors, an international terrorist and a heroin smuggler.
#2. Both knew that Clinton pardoned Rich because of a personal request by the Prime Minister of Israel.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmIt sucks that even toothless banjo players can participate in phone surveys now.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmUPDATE VI: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV): “The President’s decision to commute Mr. Libby’s sentence is disgraceful. Libby’s conviction was the one faint glimmer of accountability for White House efforts to manipulate intelligence and silence critics of the Iraq War. Now, even that small bit of justice has been undone.â€
Maybe the Senator got my scathing email. Goddamnit Harry, go get 'em! For real this time, please.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 pm#18 - this is the last straw
That camel has been dead a long time. Time to bury it. That stink is decomposed credibility.
So when's that attack on Iran coming? I can't wait for more Bozo the Clown action, the only thing missing on the books is a fat death count.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 pmgotta laugh everytime I hear an American soldier say 'I am serving my country' NOPE, you are serving TRAITORS BWAhahahahahahahahahah,suckers.... and the Bush Admin. is saying the same amongst themselves behind closed doors
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 pmwe should kill them. All of them
Comment by willyloman — July 2, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
Don't you know that two wrongs don't make a right?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmRight before July 4th Weekend.
How funny is that?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmAgain, nothing against the Judge, Jury, or Prosecutor(s). Libby will still pay substantially. The justice system is NOT compromised, contrary to the raging media and the Democratic political-hacking statements from the Reid/Pelosi gang.
Good blessings.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmGood blessings to you. We will agree to disagree?
bush's CIA. Corruption - Incompentence - Arrogance.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmThat will just about do it for the Republican Party in 2008.
What a Legacy.
The family that destroyed the Republican party.
George W. Bush, President 2004-2008
George W. Bush, President 2000-2004
George H. Bush, Vice President 1980-1984
George H. Bush, Vice President 1984-1988
George H. Bush, President 1988-1992
Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 pmIndeed.
Theres really nothing anyone can do, other than push for impeachment.
The President does have the power to commute a sentence, ( I checked) and it has been before. Most of us, myself included, probably thought Patty Hearst got a pardon, but I just checked, and her sentence was actually only commuted by President Carter, and then later she received a pardon from Clinton.
Also Calvin Coolidge and Warren Harding both commuted sentences.
We lost this one.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:34 pmMr. Leftcoast,
It's not relevant if this is the President's only commutation. You are nit-picking for political reasons, attempting a spin-job that isn't fair. There is a first time for everything and the President has his RIGHT to judgment.
At least it wasn't a pardon, so cheer up. Again, this doesn't compromise the justice system. Please take off the hate-blinders of Bush for a minute and see this through.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:34 pmCarter also commuted the sentence of G Gordon Liddy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmHarry Reid is a big p*ssy. He talks like he's gonna do something. Like Specter, the criminal remnant of the Nixon era.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmDon’t you know that two wrongs don’t make a right?
Comment by Mr. President
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pm#381
The cost for the Iraq War is probably going to be in EXCESS of a trillion-dollars.
Comment by John Gilpins
No, 18 months ago the excellent study by Joseph Stiglitz and Bilmes said the true cost would be about $2.3 Trillion. They have since said that is too low since they assumed war was winding down and it has worsened.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,5369059-103550,00.html
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmImpeach both the sons of bitches.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmHe will be pardoned when Bush leaves office. This was done just to keep him out of prison and away from Tyrone. Time to impeach all of the bastards.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmLibby was a VERY good soldier. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if Bush rewarded him with making his a US Attorney or maybe how about a Supreme Court Justice!!
Comment by JG — July 2, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
Libby is a convicted felon, so unless Chimpy actually pardons him he will be disbarred -- US Attorney or SCOTUS job for him!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmM12, now maybe YOU can explain why Clinton's pardon was called "PARDONGATE" for one questionable pardon while our "liberal media" completely ignored the very outrageous pardons of the President before him. The NYT published 17 separate articles about the Rich pardon and a grand total of 1 article about the elder Bush's pardons. Does that sound like "liberal media" to you?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmComment by Jessica — July 2, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
By removing Libby’s jail term from his sentence, President Bush once again demonstrates his lack of respect for the American system of law and Democracy as a whole... It is vital that we hold on our political leaders accountable for their actions.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
STOOOOOOOP! Yer killin me!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmSome Troll cretin:
> Libby will still pay substantially.
Hey, you can contribute. 1-800-GIVE-LIBBY
I laugh at your utter naivete. He will pay like you pay for an unfilled lottery ticket.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmI think it is long past time for more than letters and phone calls. I think there needs to be MASSIVE coordinated marches in MANY cities across the country - with enormous walkouts of all workplaces. That is what gets their attention, when you do something to disrupt the money flowing into the coffers. It will take people getting mad enough to stay home from work. Letters and calls are good, but Congress isn't willing to DO anything to hold these turkeys accountable!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmIs Bush corrupt? Absolutely.
Did Libby lie to cover up for Cheney? Without a doubt.
But everyones hands are tied when the Commander in Chief is corrupt.
Bush will misuse his power until congress curtails it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pm"Please take off the hate-blinders of Bush for a minute and see this through.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007"
real heady advice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmScooter committed the same crime Clinton was impeached for. Fifty GOP senators voted to impeach Clinton who was elected and re-elected but the GOP sees it as a non-issue for their own thugs in their own crime family. The GOP is so over.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmOh yeah, so Libby will have to pay 250,000 of which will likely not be any of his personal funds.
And he can't move into lots of apartments, and can't get lots of minimum wage jobs.
Oooooh he's so busted.
And when everyone calms down and forgets, Bush will pardon him anyway.
Yeah sure, he's gonna pay dearly.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmUPDATE #2: More statements from Dem. leadership: Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rep. John Conyers, Rep. Louise Slaughter, and Sen. Chris Dodd:
“By commuting Scooter Libby’s sentence, the President continues to abdicate responsibility for the actions of his Administration. The only ones paying the price for this Administration’s actions are the American people.â€
Still waiting for the Presidential apology to Valerie Plame Wilson for his Administration betraying her cover and her work on Iranian WMDs, among other important national security investigations. Not exactly holding my breath for it, though…
UPDATE #3: Statement from former Sen. John Edwards:
“Only a president clinically incapable of understanding that mistakes have consequences could take the action he did today. President Bush has just sent exactly the wrong signal to the country and the world. In George Bush’s America, it is apparently okay to misuse intelligence for political gain, mislead prosecutors and lie to the FBI. George Bush and his cronies think they are above the law and the rest of us live with the consequences. The cause of equal justice in America took a serious blow today.â€
http://www.firedoglake.com/
The White House has turned off their phone lines.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmimagine that...
This is much better than a president pardoning of someone for tax evasion and illegally doing business with Iran.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmYou'll have something to celebrate on the next thread, Zooey, so don't worry. You're a good person and a good mother. You should be ultra-proud of yourself.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmI guess now that Scotter is skipping out on jail, he'll do what most conservative convicted felons do best -- host a talk show radio show!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmTo all who would say, "there is nothing else we can do"......
remember this?....
" That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmNow it's time for congress to talk impeachment. If Pelose doesn't, she should step down and let someone else lead the way because she's shown no leadership at all in confronting the criminals in the White House and especially that fucking little shit Bush.
Maybe the military should cordon off the White House and then drag Bush and Cheney out in chains into a court of law where they can finally face the law they have so much contempt for.
This pardon of Libby had nothing to do with Bush's feelings for a loyal partner in crime either but everything to do with shutting Libby up before he went to prison so Libby wouldn't really talk and implicate that whole stinking steaming pile that occupys the White House.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmDon’t you know that two wrongs don’t make a right?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
How hypocritical is it possible for you people to get?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmYou’ll have something to celebrate on the next thread, Zooey, so don’t worry. You’re a good person and a good mother. You should be ultra-proud of yourself.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Thank you CT, I've always known that about myself.
You don't mind if I celebrate now, do you? :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmComment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
***Four (4)*** counts of p-e-r-j-u-r-y, for the mentally arrested like yourself, that is lying under oath to a grand jury; And o-b-s-s-t-r-u-c-t-i-o-n o-f j-u-s-t-i-c-e, again, for a special ed redneck like yourself, that's blocking justice from being exacted on very serious criminals trying to cover up the reasons why they sent our American soldiers to fight, and get maimed and die, in the shithole known commonly as Shrub's Iraq. So your description '...crimes for a man of his character absolutely do not merit any prison time', that is some high standard for character you're setting there. Convicted on FOUR counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. Boy, wow, I can only imagine what you would consider poor character. Isn't it amazing what a sucker you are?
As far as your s-y-c-o-p-h-a-n-t-i-c advice to appeal to your pathetic excuse for a 'daddy figure' to fix things, I'll be busy appealing to a higher and coherent power to serve justice, that being the impeachment provisions in the constitution, you ignorant troglodyte. Now run off and get back to licking Rush's chocolate salted balls.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:42 pmPeople in the American intelligence community can't be happy about a BushCo not having their back. Bet it turns a few.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:43 pm†That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.â€
Comment by willyloman
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:44 pmTreasonous! That's what those signers were about. Oh, yeah, the Declaration of the Independence". How appropriate at this week.
May we all remember the step they took for our freedom today. A freedom that requires accountability. A freedom that requires our responsibility to hold government accountable.
Scooter Libby just got the rest of his life handed to him.
THat idiot Kelly Odonnel sat there and talked about how he has to pay a 250,000 dollar fine (his friends already raised 10 times that amount to cover it) or how he'll lose his law license for being a convicted felon (did anyone think Libby was going to hang out a shingle after being Chief of Staff ot the Vice President of the United States?), but its all crap.
Libby is now famous, and will spend the rest of his life speaking and writing books.
Had it not been for this trial, he'd have slipped into obscurity, like he was before his trial. But thanks to this conviction, and Bush, he won't pay a cent, won't lose a cent, won't spend a day in jail, and willl make a mint off of book deals and speaking engagments for the rest of his life.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:44 pmVery curious that so called "conservative" posters here would gloat about what happened today. Don't Republicans brag about how they are pro-military, pro-CIA and the most-hawkish against terrorism? Then why on earth would you think it's OK to out a CIA agent and that the sentence should be commuted in advance? Your bragging rights are officially rescinded. Libby didn't lie under oath. He committed treason, people. And one day, after Mr. Cheney has had his coronary and is buried, we will eventually all read how he (Libby's direct boss) was complicit in this treason. The idea that this is "payback for what Clinton did" is nothing but unsportmanlike conduct by the red team. With Bush's notice today a piece of American law and order died today. Regardless of your party colors, this was a bad day for the country. A very bad day.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:44 pmComment by JoeySoCal
Who taught you that a paragraph of sloppy talking-points was a somehow a coherent argument?
You're a skipper. Scrollin' right through....
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmi think the boy may have just dug his hole...
he is definitely in impeachment territory...
this is the opportunity the congress needs...
let them know we approve of them asserting
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmtheir constitutional duties... show that spine...
go for it - we got their backs.
.
From a few days ago:
Today is the summer solstice,
the day of greatest light.
For the next 6 months, darkness will grow,
both in the amount of night time,
and upon the face of the land.
Those who walk in darkness will grow in power,
and a great shadow will reach across the earth;
may they achieve all they set out to do.
The mutual annihilation of those who harbor hate is about to unfold,
exponentially.
Since Impeachment is off the table, the only course of action which will lead to balance is for the NeoConservative movement to achieve its goals. Only through their destruction of this country can this country hope to rebuild. Witness the fools writing on this thread, gleefully embracing the freedom of a criminal. Are they not unlike those who called for the release of a thief and the cruxifixion of the son of a carpenter?
The analogy is closer than they would care to admit, for they are rejoicing the freedom of one who was convicted of lying, of hiding the truth, of keeping truth from the light. In doing so, they rejoice in the murder of truth and rejoice living in darkness.
May they live, and die, in darkness.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmcharges against King George;
"He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people."
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmRe #420 " think it is long past time for more than letters and phone calls. I think there needs to be MASSIVE coordinated marches in MANY cities across the country - with enormous walkouts of all workplaces. That is what gets their attention, when you do something to disrupt the money flowing into the coffers. It will take people getting mad enough to stay home from work. Letters and calls are good, but Congress isn’t willing to DO anything to hold these turkeys accountable!"
Let's get this started now.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:46 pmTroll: "Please take off the hate-blinders of Bush for a minute and see this through"
You need to get something through your thick mellon. IF people hate Bush, it's because he has been the worst president in history. He's lied to us. He's obstructed things the majority of us want. He's shown no respect for the law or constitutional institutions. He's ruined our reputation in the world. He's destroyed agreements between us and our allies. He sat there reading a childrens book while thousands of us burned to death. He allowed the worst terrorist attack to happen on his watch and then lied us into a horrible shooting war which has broken our military. He's destroying the environment. And, his policies have resulted in more poverty, more abortions, more crime and more misery for a large number of Americans.
Just stop acting like there is no rational reason to hate or dislike Bush and his administration. This tired old "you just hate the man" rhetoric is just pathetic. Get into the real world and understand -- there are legitimate reasons to hate the man.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:47 pmJust another in a long line of hits from "The Decider."
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:47 pmWhen we win back the country completely from these Republican criminals, and restore the Constitution as the rule of law for ALL Americans, you will hear the rally call "Remember Libby" ringing from voter booths and political meeting halls across the country.
Justice will be served one day. We WILL have the last laugh.
This July 4th when we celebrate the birth of this great nation, remember the sacrifice our forefathers made to free themselves from an unjust King. Honor them by continuing their struggle.
God Bless America
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:48 pmIs this really news? I'm not sure why you guys are making such a big deal about it. Only the Communist News Network is covering it right now. Probably just cause they are just sore losers. Fox News is covering important topics.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:48 pmKaty,
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pmImpeachment will not happen unless Pelosi gets off her butt.
I just don't think she has the fight in her.
And where is Fitzgerald today? He should be pissed. In fact he should be saying that "Administration is beyond the law". But, he won't. He's bucking for a Supreme Court job.
This is what happens when Jr. is not allowed to drive the boat and play Skipper. "I'll show U Daddy"
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pmThe thing is, this clemency might be the straw that broke the camels back.
Officals and congressmen seeing Bush commute Libby's sentence for something that he, or his Veep, were likely part of, could help pave the way for hearings.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pm"During his tenure as Halliburton CEO, Cheney made speeches denouncing the very sanctions on Iran that Rich was prosecuted for violating.
The whole subject of presidential pardons is a touchy one for the Bush family. Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich is a squalid affair, but it pales by comparison, as an act of presidential malfeasance, with the pardons issued by President George Herbert Walker Bush in December 1992 to five of the principal figures in the Iran-Contra affair. The pardon of former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger was a particularly flagrant case of politically motivated abuse of power.
Weinberger had lied to special prosecutor Laurence Walsh, concealing for years his contemporaneous notes of White House discussions on the secret arms sales to Iran and the illegal war against Nicaragua. Weinberger's notebooks were eventually uncovered by investigators for Walsh, and the former Pentagon chief was about to go on trial for perjury and cover-up.
Walsh hoped that a conviction would induce Weinberger to testify against President Bush, who as vice president had famously claimed to be “out of the loop†where Iran-Contra was concerned. Weinberger's notebooks reportedly contained material contradicting Bush's denials of involvement in the illegal Iran-Contra operations.
Thus by pardoning Weinberger, Bush not only let a crony go scot free, he immunized against prosecution a potential witness against himself. This crude judicial “fix†was given far less examination by the media than the Clinton pardon of Marc Rich, and was quickly buried."
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pmComment by TheCrapture — July 2, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
Right-wingers, what are you cheering about??? A jury CONVICTED this crminal of obstructing the case of a CIA operative being outed. They convicted him for repeatedly LYING so the truth could not be discovered. Plame was the top expert on Iraq’s nuclear proliferation. She devoted her life to keeping us safe.
Actually, I accused nobody of such a crime. Because no such crime was committed. Plame was not undercover, because if she was, then it would have been a crime. Besides, let's be real--the only thing she and her husband dedicated their lives to is self-promotion. And they are both lying skunks--I know that. That's another reason this lame case fizzled, and had about as much legitimacy as the bogus Duke rape case.
But at least the wacko, deviant Left considers me a hero!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pmKeith G- Thank you, Thank you!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pm"Is this really news? I’m not sure why you guys are making such a big deal about it. Only the Communist News Network is covering it right now. Probably just cause they are just sore losers. Fox News is covering important topics."
What like the ever-increasing bear epidemic or the War on the Fourth of July? And if I was the propaganda arm of the RNC, I probably wouldn't be covering this either.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pm>> Impeachment will not happen unless Pelosi gets off her butt.
Jesus H. Christ. Sent here an "Anal Raptor" or something! It really is time!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:54 pmPeople left-of-center like Barney Frank and Russ Feingold denounced Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:55 pmPatrick Fitzgerald
"Plame was not undercover, because if she was, then it would have been a crime."
I'M SICK OF THIS LIE!!!! SHE WAS UNDERCOVER!!! THE CIA HAS SAID SO!!!
On March 8, 2007, two days after the verdict in the Libby trial, Congressman Henry Waxman, chair of the U.S. House Committee on Government Reform, announced that his committee would ask Valerie E. Wilson to testify on March 16, in an effort by his committee to look into "whether White House officials followed appropriate procedures for safeguarding Plame's identity."
On March 16, 2007, at these hearings about the disclosure, Chairman Henry Waxman read a statement about Plame's CIA career that had been cleared by CIA director Gen. Michael V. Hayden and the CIA:
During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover.
Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak's column on July 14, 2003, Ms. Wilson's CIA employment status was covert.
This was classified information.
Ms. Wilson served in senior management positions at the CIA, in which she oversaw the work of other CIA employees, and she attained the level of GS-14, step 6 under the federal pay scale.
Ms. Wilson worked on some of the most sensitive and highly secretive matters handled by the CIA.
Ms. Wilson served at various times overseas for the CIA.
Without discussing the specifics of Ms. Wilson's classified work, it is accurate to say that she worked on the prevention of the development and use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States.
In her various positions at the CIA, Ms. Wilson faced significant risks to her personal safety and her life.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:56 pmFox News is covering important topics
OMG!! Really?? Since when????? That would be totally newsworthy!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:56 pmBut at least the wacko, deviant Left considers me a hero!
Comment by Patrick Fitzgerald
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmYou've not be reading. That's ok.
I hope you don't influence to many BBQ guests this 4th.
Oh, don't forget to say a prayer for Scooter and the other thousands and thousands who have languished in jail for the same thing; lying.
#449. You wouldn't sound so stupid if you weren't parroting what the FAUXNOIZ liars have been saying and would start reading what really happened in court. Plame was under cover. You should be able to verify that easily. There was a crime cimmitted but they lied and obstructed justice so the prosecutor could not nail the case. Go read and become better educated or go agree with the other liars who want to remain in denial. You guys are completely ignorant.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmPlame was most definitely undercover. She made a point of swearing under oath over and over that she was.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmJUST US is served on a silver platter and from a silver spoon. F*CK the neoconRIGHT.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 pmJoe Wilson and Valerie Plame are the kind of analysts and agents who report fact, which was in direct contradiction to the White House's requirements.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 pmDidn't Bill Clinton do the same thing?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:59 pmIt's time to hit the streets with highway signs.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:01 pmMore than 70% of Americans did not want a Libby pardon.
DON'T IMPEACH. SENTENCE THEM TO DEATH.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmPlame was most definitely undercover. She made a point of swearing under oath over and over that she was.
Comment by Keith G. — July 2, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
Really? Well, that would be consistent with what Michael Hayden, CIA Director, told Congress in writing, and what Patrick Fitzgerald stated in federal court proceedings and press conferences. Do you have a problem with that?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa........
Get over it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmDidn’t Bill Clinton do the same thing?
Comment by Mr. President
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmThis isn't Mr. P.
He's watched the blog. This is not his tactic. But whoever you are nice try.
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by Tom
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by JschmoAZ
I, Sandy Burglar, got NO sentence for STEALING AND DESTROYING CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY DOCUMENTS. I got a slap on the wrist: A minor fine and the revocation of my security clearance for a whole 3 years.
And I never even had to come clean about what criminality I covered up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmFox "news" is covering those important stories like missing white women, Paris Hilton, and whipping up fear of brown people blowing shit up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmCrump's Brother,
"Now let's get to the election."
I can hardly wait to have my vote stolen or not counted. Apparently, in many parts of the country, voting is an exercise in futility. We don't have a democracy if we can't rely on the election process.
Watergate pales in comparison to the crimes of this administration. Why is Bush still in office? Something is not only rotten in Denmark, but it's also rotten in Washington. Strings are being pulled somewhere.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:03 pmVerbalKint,
We agree!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:04 pmPlame was most definitely undercover. She made a point of swearing under oath over and over that she was.
Comment by Keith G. — July 2, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
LMAO. Yeah, and Bill swore over and over he wasn't alone with that woman, didn't have sex with her and wasn't sure of the meaning of the word 'is'.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:05 pmTAke the Fall Scooter, Nuthin Bad is gonna happen to ya, you got my word..unless you fail to keep yer mouth shut. I made this converstion up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:06 pmmonica, you are wrong on 3 out of 3
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 pmFUTITA!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 pmI, Sandy Burglar, got NO sentence for STEALING AND DESTROYING CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY DOCUMENTS. I got a slap on the wrist: A minor fine and the revocation of my security clearance for a whole 3 years.
And I never even had to come clean about what criminality I covered up.
Comment by Sandy Burglar — July 2, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Those were xerox copies - not documents - dum bass. You're a st*pid little b!tch - aren't you troll?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:08 pmRight before July 4th Weekend.
How funny is that?
Comment by willyloman
God Used to Bless the F*cking USA!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:08 pmBut, but, Clinton had a Christmas card list.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:11 pmDead(?) and compromised American spys
VS.
a stained dress
Haahahhaahahahahaha, no wonder these idiots can't beat a small country
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 pm>>> I, Sandy Burglar,...
Who the F*CK is talking about Sandy F*CKING Berger at all? What has this to do with anything? This is not a Zero-Sum game.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:14 pmSTOOOOOOOP! Yer killin me!!!!!
Comment by Bill Clinton
Look President Clinton is now Bill Clinton. Please email TP about the stealing of a Presidential Name. Isn't against the rules?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:15 pmI hope all republicans celebrate and defend this decision. I am sure there will come a time when a dem is convicted of perjury, obstructing justice, etc., and the republicans are just setting up the precedent so he/she can go free. What would they say if William Jefferson was convicted, then had his sentence commuted? What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:16 pmAnyone who is outraged by this should call their Senators and Reps and demand impeachment for Cheny & Bush!
Even if impeachment is unsucessful it still needs to be brought against these criminals as a warning to any future (Vice) Presidents that they cannot ignore the constitution and rule of law!
Let the Good People of America rise up and take back our (once great) country, from those who would run it into the ground!
If we sit back now, and do nothing, future generations will ask us:
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:17 pm" What did you do to stop them from destroying America?"
But, but, Clinton had a Christmas card list.
Comment by stoopidfingtroll — July 2, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Yeah, and one time he mixed his colors with his whites while doing laundry.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:17 pmAll you neocon Nazis talking about Clinton's pardon, but don't mention pardons by Republican president. Especially the big one, Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon. Feel free to discuss that one you traitors.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmThank you republican party, sincerely. You are now guaranteeing a dem majority for the next several years. We greatly appreciate this gift.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmIt's our own bootstraps for 'we the people'. The Neocons pull each other up by the brastraps. Cowardly Fems
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 pmScooter Libby has just changed from a prisoner to an Issue.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 pmComment by John Gilpins — July 2, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
I can hardly wait to have my vote stolen or not counted.
Oh, you're one of those voters who didn't realize you can't vote for two different people for president on the same ballot?
Apparently, in many parts of the country, voting is an exercise in futility. We don’t have a democracy if we can’t rely on the election process.
Which is why you support voter IDs, right?
Watergate pales in comparison to the crimes of this administration.
You do know that pardons are a presidential prerogative, right? That there's nothing illegal, or even unethical, in what he did? I mean, it's not like he pardoned terrorists, fugitives, political donors, criminal accomplices, cronies, etc. I mean, you do see the difference, right?
Why is Bush still in office?
Because his turn isn't up for another year and a half. Why is Sandy Burglar not in prison?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 pmOf course, thanks to the republican party, we no longer need to worry about any dem scandals. After 2009 any US Attorney who even thinks of investigating a democrat will be instantly fired. This precedent is another wonderful gift from the republicans. Be careful what you ask for repubs, you just might get it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:22 pmYeah, and one time he mixed his colors with his whites while doing laundry.
Comment by Zooey
Too bad he didn't throw in the blue dress.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:22 pmno prison....Joy... my sphincter is slowly relaxing
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Bush on the other hand lies about matters of state, and the right wing scum cheers.
Are these lies about matters of state to which you refer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pmI just thought of Patrick Fitzgerald.
All of his hard work. All of his investigations. His intellect.
His commitment to the truth.
Justice.
Honesty.
I feel really badly for him tonight.
Sorry it's kinda OT.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:26 pmToo bad he didn’t throw in the blue dress.
Comment by stoopidfingtroll — July 2, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
It was Monica's souvenier!
Since the trolls are running out of Clinton things, we should think of more terrible things he's done.
One time, I heard Clinton put carrots in the soup without peeling them.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:26 pmThey won this round, but this one just might come back to bite them in the ass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmWhich sits on top of their shoulder blades.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmGO BUSH!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmAnd liberty and justice for some...
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmThis should be a major part of all republicans campaigns. I hope McCain, Rudy G, Thompson, Romney, etc. let the public know what they stand for. Perjury and obstruction of justice aren't real crimes. We need to bomb Iran. America should stay in Iraq for the next 50 years. The DOJ is a political arm of the White House. Torture is good. Please campaign on this platform. The dems will have a full majority for the next century!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmSorry it’s kinda OT.
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Don't be blue truey bluey! It will all work out in the end, you'll see!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmI wonder if Gerald Fitzpatrick?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:29 pm#444- muckracker,
[....Is this really news? I"m not sure why you guys are making such a big deal about it. ].
Why are you then wasting your time here. Go find you another website that does not care for such issues or news ? !!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmBefore anybody else does can we get any/all comparisions of the unpeeled carrot to anything else out of the way quickly. It's childish...
nobody likes "cigar soup"
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmBush did this to secure his base, not becsause he gives a crap about Libby.
But he may have maxed out his account on this one.
This one, makes him a potential accomplice to the original crime, and its going to raise some serious eyebrows in the justice dept and elsewhere.
Bush might have just signed his own impeachment order.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmOnce again the American majority gets the FU finger, I'm the king and do what I want treatment. It is absolutely shameful that this ass is called the president of this country. May the next year-and-a-half pass quickly so we can close the book on this mistaken history.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmGO BUSH!!!
Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Yes. Please, just go.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmSince W has never commuted a death penalty, perhaps the judge was too lenient.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmZooey,
I'm spitting mad and also sad.
Why do they get away with this?
I remember watching the news of Nixon's resignation and seeing thousands upon thousands dancing in the streets. (Granted, I was just a wee child then, but I do recall a lot of glee.)
Where is the fire that America had then?
Where is the optimism we once had?
This is so disheartening.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmBush might have just signed his own impeachment order.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
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I wish, but I don't think that is going to happen. However, this decision just drove more republicans away, created more voter apathy that will favor the dems, and helped tremendously with moving the critical swing vote to the left. I look at this decision as a gift from the republican party. Not that the dems really needed the help, but it's still nice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmClinton DID allow his lustfull proclivities to get the better of him...and got caught doing it....thereby allowing the republicans an opening to overcome 8 years of peace and prosperity, and install George W. in the white house. He has since sincerely apologized...but I'm still p*ssed at him for being so reckless.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmTake heart True Blue.
Winning this little battle just might cost them the war.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmDisappointing but not shocking nor surprising
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:37 pm#
Disappointing but not shocking nor surprising
Comment by YouCantHandleDaTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
#
Agreed. Even expected.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:37 pmLiving in an autocracy is so darn cool. You just trust the leader and everything works out fine. They fight evil so I can masturbate to photos of Jonah Goldberg. Why is everyone so angry? Do you love Terrorists?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:38 pm"I respect the jury’s verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby’s sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison."
Then explain how you feel about the harsh sentencing of former Governor Don Siegelman (D-AL) after your favorite piglet, known to us as Rove, did a hatchet job on the man.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1627427,00.html?xid=rss-nation
Now the man is sentenced to over seven years in prison and has to pay a fine of $500,000.00
All because he was in your and Rove's way during an election.
http://harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000402
No doubt your sycophantic boot-lickers will grovel all day to defend your mockery of American justice and the death of America.
Today's Republican... the only thing that separates them from Al Qaeda is the name of the god they declare to worship... The Republicans worship mammon.
.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmDo you love Terrorists?
Comment by temperance — July 2, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
No.
We do not love Bush.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by BrianS — July 2, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
We are no longer a nation of laws. If you are high ranking politically, you are above the law.
Yeah, but don't worry--someday, Kennedy, Clinton, Sandy Burglar, McDermott, Clinton, Sharpton, John Edwards, Jesse Hijackson, Feinstein, Frank, Hastings, John Conyers, William Jefferson, Marion Barry, unions, trial lawyers, et al will have to answer for their despicable crimes.
We no longer exist as a nation ruled by the Constitution and law
Well, not after what the left has done to the Constitution, anyway. Is there anything left of the Bill of Rights after the trashing the left has given it over the last couple decades?
The time has come to IMPEACH President Bush and Vice President Cheney. We cannot progress on any other area until this is done.
We'll progress just fine.
As far as the so-called impeachable offenses he committed, remind me again what they are?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmWas Libby's 2 1/2 year sentence excessive? [See comparable Watergate sentences here, along with Bush's statement of reasons for today's interference in the process.]
Comparing the price of fines (adjusted for inflation) between 1974 and 2007 ($45,000/$250,000), Libby seems to be getting off cheaply, but I think it's fair to conclude that no matter what it had been, the secret fund set up for Libby (see Barbara Comstock) would have had enough to cover it.
All those convicted during Watergate who were attorneys lost their licenses to practice, and should Libby fail to prevail on appeal, he will lose his license, too.
Unless, on his way out of town in 2009, Bush grants Libby a full pardon, in addition to this interim stop-gap measure to keep Libby out of prison. (I wouldn't be surprised if there is a pardon for Libby on January 19, 2009, given Bush's visit with his father at Kennebunkport this past weekend and Dad's own history of preventing investigations with pardons.)
There is, however, nothing to prevent a prosecutor in the future, in the next administration, from opening up a new investigation. Should a new investigation uncover evidence of a conspiracy, Libby, et al, could face a whole new set of charges. What will Bush-Cheney and Republicans do to make sure that doesn't happen?
Impeachment may be the only way that Democrats take the White House in 2008.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pmThank you, BARTLEBEE,
It just may cause them the war, but they have stolen so many battles that I'm feeling like "Dolly" in the Land of Misfit Toys.
"I don't have any dreams left." (tear)
Thanks for the pick-me-up. (maybe one last dream...)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:45 pmWell so much for that you do the crime you pay the time canard all the righties like to spew, I guess if you a favorite of the president, it is okay to break the law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:45 pmGee, what should I worry about, a few burning cars in Europe or the burning Constitution.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:46 pmComment by TheCrapture — July 2, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That’s FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Plame wasn't an uncover agent as defined under the statute. That's why no charges were ever brought in that regard.
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
Right-wingers aren't the ones who defended a rapist and serial sexual assaulter.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmUPDATE VII: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): “The President’s commutation of Scooter Libby’s prison sentence does not serve justice, condones criminal conduct, and is a betrayal of trust of the American people.â€
Yo Nance,
Leaving impeachment off the table is a betrayal of trust of the American people, and condones criminal behavior.
Just sayin'
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmI'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this. (I couldn't wade through all of the attempts at infuriation and mostly ineffectual comments.)
But in addition to:
Two years probation
$250,000 in fines
and felony conviction removing (temporarily?) voting rights
I believe another important, and unfortunate, difference between a pardon and a commuted sentence is admission of guilt. To accept a pardon Libby would be admitting guilt. As well, to offer a pardon Bush would have been implying guilt. That is what made Ford's pardon of Nixon so important.
So this is no victory for the left, or even more sadly for America. This was far from a middle of the road move by Bush. This was as much as he could abuse his powers without anyone ever having to admit to anything. Yet again!
Write all congressmen and congresswomen. Write your state congress. Talk to your family, friends and neighbors. March in the streets. Get these people out of our government forever!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 pmI remember watching the news of Nixon’s resignation and seeing thousands upon thousands dancing in the streets. (Granted, I was just a wee child then, but I do recall a lot of glee.)
Where is the fire that America had then?
Where is the optimism we once had?
This is so disheartening.
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
I heard this somewhere:
All is well, and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well.
We should be dancing in the streets now!! :-)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:51 pmOMG! Keith Olbermann is doing a Special Comment tomorrow night calling on the Pres and VP to resign!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:53 pmPres. Bush was tonight's "Worst Person in the World"! And the picture was priceless.. Looked like he was totally shitfaced.
Sorry,.. I should have written 'sh*tfaced'...
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:55 pmAm moving into the kitchen to wash my mouth out with soap..
#523, Zooey,
I'll have to email you my response.
Not fit for TP!
;)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:55 pmAm moving into the kitchen to wash my mouth out with soap..
Or maybe washing my fingers with soap (I guess..)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmSorry,.. I should have written ’sh*tfaced’…
Am moving into the kitchen to wash my mouth out with soap..
Comment by JG — July 2, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Don't you dare!! You meant shitfaced, and you said shitfaced! :-D
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmI’ll have to email you my response.
Not fit for TP!
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Heh. Looking forward to it!!
One time, I heard Clinton ate his dessert before dinner.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmIt's not really bad, just me bad.
What can I say. I'm a wimp.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmI gotta go pick up miniblue - be back in a few.
Thanks.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmClinton clipped his toenails and didn't pick up his mess, or put away the clippers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmCrump's mom,
Oh sure! Yeah! I don't think so!
Voting for two people? It's hard to vote for two people, let alone one person, if you can't get your foot in the door at your voting precinct.
Jewish precincts, in Florida, voting for Pat Buchanan in the 2000 election? Oh sure! Yeah! I don't think so! I'll believe that when I see hundreds of thousands of menorah's in the windows of Arkansas' mobile homes. Oh sure! Yeah! I don't think so. I'll believe that when I see thousands of rainbow flags on cars in the parking lots at Liberty University. Oh sure! Yeah! I don't think so.
Nice try!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmSenator Reid - I noticed you said that ‘history’ will judge President Bush for this decision. F*** history! Why don’t you judge President Bush for this decision? Are you gambling that he will destroy his party before he destroys the country? You are either criminally negligent or you have the biggest balls of any American alive.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — July 2, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
Because even somebody as dumb as Harry Reid knows that Bush did nothing illegal. Harry also doesn't want to piss off the justice department into investigating his crooked land deals.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmClinton clipped his toenails and didn’t pick up his mess, or put away the clippers.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
I don't think he put the toilet seat down either..
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmDamn trueblue!
My monitor is smoking! Heh.
It's gonna be ok!
Clinton once helped wash windows and left them all streaky.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:06 pmFurther proof, not that any was needed that the rule of law means nothing to the the junta or it's supporters.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 pmWhy is Keith O. doing this tomorrow night?
Why can't he do it TONIGHT?
Another 24 hours, with Bush as our leader, is not good news.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmHilarious!
Abolsute hysteria from a bunch of hypocrites who had no problem at all with a massive dump of pardons, handed out at the very last second of Clinton's presidency, to the most horrendous characters imaginable, including TERRORISTS, for god's sake. Not to mention fugitives from justice, pals and cronies, those who contributed to his and his wife's campaigns and other lowlives.
In his six years in office, Bush has done nothing to rival that single, despicable act.
But it's such GREAT FUN seeing all the loonies on this forum lose their minds!!!
Keep it up--it's wonderful entertainment!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmUPDATE X: The New York Times editorial board writes, “Presidents have the power to grant clemency and pardons. But in this case, Mr. Bush did not sound like a leader making tough decisions about justice. He sounded like a man worried about what a former loyalist might say when actually staring into a prison cell.â€
I love the smell of flop sweat in the morning -- it smells like VICTORY!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmDick Durbin on the Marc Rich Pardon:
It appears that in our investigation of the presidential right to pardon, in looking forward, as Senator Specter suggests, we can only reflect on one president at a time. But if we're sincere about amending the Constitution or reforming the laws relating to pardons, the committee should not confine its inquiry to one action by one president.
If this hearing is about genuine reform, it should be opened and balanced. It should consider the use of the presidential pardon historically by presidents of both political parties. If it is about a parting shot at former President Clinton, then I have to agree with President George W. Bush, "It's time to move on."
Move on, lefties!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmClinton once washed the car and didn't put away the hose.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:22 pmUPDATE #3: Statement from former Sen. John Edwards:
“Only a president clinically incapable of understanding that mistakes have consequences could take the action he did today. President Bush has just sent exactly the wrong signal to the country and the world. In George Bush’s America, it is apparently okay to misuse intelligence for political gain, mislead prosecutors and lie to the FBI. George Bush and his cronies think they are above the law and the rest of us live with the consequences. The cause of equal justice in America took a serious blow today.â€
Edwards may be a lying, criminal shakedown artist, but he knows exactly what the wacko left in his party wants to hear. And watch them all lap it up like the lemmings they are!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmIf this hearing is about genuine reform, it should be opened and balanced. It should consider the use of the presidential pardon historically by presidents of both political parties. If it is about a parting shot at former President Clinton, then I have to agree with President George W. Bush, “It’s time to move on.â€
Move on, lefties!
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
Rich didn't risk our national security and coverup the illegal actions of the administration - Libby did.
What it's time to do, is investigate and start impeachment procedures.
You f*ckers are unworthy to hold public office - Nazi boy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmWhat will I tell the children when they say, “why should I be punished if traitors to my country aren’t?â€â€˜
Comment by worried conservative mommy — July 2, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
You tell them Wilson and Plame will be punished someday.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmScooter Libby was Mar Rich's attorney...you stupid knuckle dragging troglodytes. Go play on a board with other morons.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:24 pm#550
Waaaaaaaah! Move on, chump!
Don't you have a website like that?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:25 pmScooter Libby was Mar Rich’s attorney…you stupid knuckle dragging troglodytes. Go play on a board with other morons.
Yeah, so? Attorneys are supposed to fight for their clients.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmThanks Shrub,
Keep pissing on concepts of Truth, Justice, and Liberty.
We'd be SHOCKED if you behaved as if you had ANY morals.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmI see the Acerebralists are out in full force tonight.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmYou tell them Wilson and Plame will be punished someday.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmWhaaaa??? Did I miss something??
Clinton used to hog the monkey bars when he was in grade school.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pm#546
This victory?
Earlier today, I spoke to President Bush, and I offered him and Laura our congratulations on their victory.
We had a good conversation, and we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together.
Today, I hope that we can begin the healing.
In America it is vital that every vote count, and that every vote be counted.
But the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process.
I would not give up this fight if there was a chance we would prevail.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pmClinton owns a tie-dyed tie.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pmClinton writes in the dust on the TV.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Loring_Morison
Samuel L. Morrison, a former American intelligence professional, convicted of espionage and theft of government property in 1985.
Pardoned by President William Jefferson Clinton on Jan. 20, 2001.
A joint investigation by the Naval Investigative Service and the FBI led to Morison, resulting in his arrest on October 1, 1984. A search of Morison’s apartment in Crofton, Maryland, revealed several hundred government documents. Some of the documents were classified. Morison was charged with espionage and theft of government property. On October 17, 1985 and Morison was found guilty in Federal Court of the charges and on December 4 1985, was sentenced to two years in prison.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:31 pmThe White House has turned off their phone lines.
imagine that…
Comment by katy
Katy, does firedoglake have trolls like these because I have had it with their lies and namecalling and namejacking.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:31 pmEarlier today, I spoke to President Bush, and I offered him and Laura our congratulations on their victory.
We had a good conversation, and we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together.
Today, I hope that we can begin the healing.
In America it is vital that every vote count, and that every vote be counted.
But the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process.
I would not give up this fight if there was a chance we would prevail.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
Ummm... Are you on drugs or something?? Been to the dentist? Toked on a little too much laughing gas..?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmClinton once dribbled taco sauce on his best shirt.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmZooey, you're on a roll! Tell me more...
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pmhttp://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2001/0102/rich0209.jpg
Pardons for sale!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pm#564
Awww, you don't recognize the speech?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmWhy do all the ignorant, knuckle dragging, troglodyte morons hang out on this board to show their stupidity? Go away trolls, you are a 26% non-entity, supporters of fascist thugs of a crime family and you are so over, it is laughable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmPeople left-of-center like Barney Frank and Russ Feingold denounced Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich.
Comment by Keith G. — July 2, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
LMAO. Is there anybody who is actually willing to defend it?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmZooey, you’re on a roll! Tell me more…
Comment by JG — July 2, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
You go, Girl!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pm"The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged."
Well of course his reputation is damaged... He's the one who damaged it! Now we're supposed to give him a pass???
I have repulsed by the policies of young king george from his first day in office. I am sick, sick sick! And when I'm not sick I'm tired! Please congress, both parties, DO SOMETHING!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmM12 - Sorry, I thought maybe you were 'channeling' or something..
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 pmAs far as the so-called impeachable offenses he committed, remind me again what they are?
Comment by Scooter — July 2, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Sure.
Manipulating classified intelligence
Lying to the Congress and the UN to start a war
Corruption
Conspiracy
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 pmClinton's nominee for Atty General didn't pay Social Security taxes on her nanny twenty-five years in the past.
The Clinton's lost a few thousand dollars on a condo deal in Arkansas twenty-five years in the past.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmThose were xerox copies - not documents - dum bass. You’re a st*pid little b!tch - aren’t you troll?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — July 2, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yeah, they were just mere copies that I stole and destroyed!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmWhy is Keith O. doing this tomorrow night?
Why can’t he do it TONIGHT?
Comment by John Gilpins — July 2, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
He still gave Bush notice tonight. He said that Bush is no longer our President. He is only President to the handful of supporters who follow him.
Bush has shown his corruption, and his conspiracy to cover up the outing of a CIA agent, which is a "High Crime".
Bush has impeached himself.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 pmClinton once let his hair dry after the shower without combing it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmhttp://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmm12,
Honestly, I couldn't stand Clinton. I thought he was one of the worst presidents we had ever had. I served in the military during his term, and during George W. I hated his position on gun control, and really hated NAFTA. I was gleeful when Clinton was no longer president.
That being said, I would rather have Clinton as president for the next fifty years than to have Bush for one more month. Bush is not just the worst president we have ever had. He is easily the worst leader of ANY country in the world in the last 35 years.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmLibby most likely acted with impunity, because he knew he'd walk scott free.
Or should I say, "scooter free"?
Thats conspiracy to commit obstruction.
Impeachable as an offense as there is.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmWhether its Military service, prison time or telling the truth the extreme Right wets their little flowered panties and runs every time ......wee wee wee all the way home..pussies
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmAs far as the so-called impeachable offenses he committed, remind me again what they are?
Comment by Scooter — July 2, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Let's see, he diverted about $700,000,000 of money authorized appropriated specifically for the war in Afghanistan, to begin preparations for the invasion of Iraq (an invasion, I'll remind you, he claimed would "only be a last resort", but for which he had been intending all along, probably at the insistence of the Veep.)
By his constant and, in quantity, unprecedented use of Signing Statements, he has shown a flagrant intention to NOT "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." That is a direct constitutional violation right there, which brings us to...
"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and that I will to the best of ability preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States." He has failed to do that.
I agree. Impeach him and his cyborg Veep now (and that little dog, Gonzo, too.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmIs it safe to say that Bush has finally figured out that there is no benefit in attempting to placate liberal fanatics? If they are already calling you the anti-christ or comparing you to hitler; and continually calling for your impeachment (and imprisonment), are you somehow going to make them more upset by pardoning Libby? This site and it's proponents are entertaining; but impotent.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmClinton picks his teeth with a toothpick when no one is looking.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmIn te Constitution it says that you can Impeach the Seated President
only if he has done something that Presisdent Clinton didn't do.
"But Mooooommmy! Billy did it tooooooo!"
please understand how stupid the argument is. Our country depends on it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:48 pmComment by Chris L — July 2, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
I hope all republicans celebrate and defend this decision.
Happy Days are here again, the skies above are clear again...!
I am sure there will come a time when a dem is convicted of perjury, obstructing justice, etc.,
Pffff--and I'm sure the sun will rise tomorrow. But at least we agree on something.
What would they say if William Jefferson was convicted, then had his sentence commuted?
We'd say he must've had another freezer in his basement.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmClinton puts objects in his ears that are larger than his elbow.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmImpeachable as an offense as there is.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
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I wish I could share in your optimism. However, the only thing that would move a congress to impeach a president would be if the president lied about something that wasn't a crime. You know, like if he cheated on his wife and lied about it. I guess they see perjury as some tremendous sin. Oh, unless your name is Scooter.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmClinton picks his teeth with a toothpick when no one is looking.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Whew! For a moment there, I was afraid you were going to say he used something else!
(Quasi-related to this one)
Clinton puts objects in his ears that are larger than his elbow.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pmDID ANYONE HERE REALIZE THAT:
BILL CLINTON DID IT TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STALINISM LOSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmWe’d say he must’ve had another freezer in his basement.
Comment by Free Mumia — July 2, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
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Well, at least you admit that Libby's commutation must have had something to do with money. Again, thanks for the gift.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmWhew! For a moment there, I was afraid you were going to say he used something else!
(Quasi-related to this one)
Clinton puts objects in his ears that are larger than his elbow.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Heh. What have YOU heard about Clinton?
I heard that Clinton really dislikes celery.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmLike I said, the Acerebralists are in full force tonight.
But we've got our own favorite, Zooey, and her Magic Bag of Clinton!
You're doing great. I will try not to interfere anymore. :)
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmI am now officially disgusted by the tin pot "democracy" ( ha ha ha ha) to the south of me. Long live King George!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 pmI heard that Clinton knows the definition of acerebralist.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 pmHowever, the only thing that would move a congress to impeach a president would be if the president lied about something that wasn’t a crime. You know, like if he cheated on his wife and lied about it. I guess they see perjury as some tremendous sin. Oh, unless your name is Scooter.
Not necessarily. But like the dog who cried wolf, lefties whine about impeachment on a daily basis.
Nobody cares.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmHeh. What have YOU heard about Clinton?
I heard that Clinton really dislikes celery.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:54 pm
Well, I haven't had time to scan all of yours (on all the threads :) ), but I heard that Clinton took up two parking spots once. (Possibly twice.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pm