BREAKING: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence
BREAKING: Bush Commutes Libby Sentence
President Bush has spared Scooter Libby from a 2½-year prison term, issuing an order that commutes his sentence, the AP reports. Libby will never have to go to jail, but his felony conviction will stand, and he will still serve two years probation and owe $250,000 in fines.
The Politico reported on June 17:
White House loyalists have begun arguing that clemency for I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby — either a pardon or a commuted sentence — would be a way for an embattled President Bush to reassert himself, particularly among conservatives.
The White House has not ruled out a pardon for Libby, sources say. But several Republicans, who sense a movement in Libby’s favor, said a more likely possibility might be a presidential commutation — a reduction or elimination of Libby’s 2½-year federal prison sentence. Such a move, they said, would be less divisive for the country.
UPDATE: On June 5, White House spokesperson Dana Perino said that the President was “not going to intervene.”
UPDATE II: From Bush’s statement today:
I respect the jury’s verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby’s sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison.
My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged. His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long-lasting.
The Constitution gives the President the power of clemency to be used when he deems it to be warranted. It is my judgment that a commutation of the prison term in Mr. Libby’s case is an appropriate exercise of this power.
UPDATE III: In March, Americans opposed pardoning Libby by a 3 to 1 margin.
UPDATE IV: Weekly Standard’s William Kristol predicted it all along. From Fox News Sunday, June 10, 2007:
KRISTOL: I think [the president] will not let Scooter Libby go to jail. He may not pardon him. He may commute the sentence, the prison sentence — in other words, say no prison sentence, but let Libby pay the $250,000 fine that Judge Walton imposed and therefore not overturn the actual verdict.
That way, he can say, “Look, a jury found that he made false statements. I’m not going to challenge that. But this man does not deserve to go to jail. The official recommendation was for a much shorter sentence. Judge Walton for some reason went for the maximum sentence. That’s not right. And therefore, I’m going to remove the prison sentence, commute the prison sentence but maybe let the fine go ahead.”
UPDATE V: Bloomberg notes, “Bush has granted fewer pardons — 113 — than any president in the past 100 years, while denying more than 1,000 requests, said Margaret Colgate Love, the Justice Department’s pardon attorney from 1990 to 1997. In addition, Bush has denied more than 4,000 commutation requests, and hundreds of requests for pardons and commutations are still pending, Love said.”
UPDATE VI: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV): “The President’s decision to commute Mr. Libby’s sentence is disgraceful. Libby’s conviction was the one faint glimmer of accountability for White House efforts to manipulate intelligence and silence critics of the Iraq War. Now, even that small bit of justice has been undone.”
UPDATE VII: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): “The President’s commutation of Scooter Libby’s prison sentence does not serve justice, condones criminal conduct, and is a betrayal of trust of the American people.” More statements from House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD), Judiciary chairman John Conyers (D-MI), and Rules chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-NY).
UPDATE VIII: Statement from Vice President Cheney: “I have always considered him [Libby] to be a man of the highest intellect, judgment and personal integrity — a man fully committed to protecting the vital security interests of the United States and its citizens. … The defense has indicated it plans to appeal the conviction in the case. Speaking as friends, we hope that our system will return a final result consistent with what we know of this fine man.”
UPDATE IX: Politico’s Crypt notes that House Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-MO) “was one of the few – and perhaps only – Republicans to applaud President Bush’s decision” to commute Libby’s sentence. Reaction by former senator Fred Thompson HERE.
UPDATE X: The New York Times editorial board writes, “Presidents have the power to grant clemency and pardons. But in this case, Mr. Bush did not sound like a leader making tough decisions about justice. He sounded like a man worried about what a former loyalist might say when actually staring into a prison cell.”
UPDATE XI: Bob Geiger has compiled the reaction of the Democratic presidential candidates HERE.
Um… can we impeach Bush NOW!? Or do we actually need to catch him in bed with a dead girl or live boy?
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:52 pmSo, since Bush is changing the sentence, not pardoning, does this mean he is above the law of the judge(like the sherriff in the Paris Hilton fiasco?)
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmNow can we get back to killing IslamoNazis?
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmA commuted sentence. Pardon. What’s the difference. Americans who believed in the justice system or that our CIA operatives were protected have been completely thrown out.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmIMPEACH!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmWelcome to the 4th of July Fireworks display in D.C.
on July 2nd
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmThis has to be a sick joke.
sad sad day
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmMISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmImpeach for obstruction. This was clearly done to keep Scooter from talking.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmIMPEACH!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:55 pmWatch out for MOONBAT feces being flung at their keepers!! You fools didn’t see this coming at all did you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmThis is how the conservatives protect our country, by supporting criminals and hurting our service men/women.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmUn-phucking-believable!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmSuch a move, they said, would be less divisive for the country.
Wrong!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmThis will be a good platform for the democrats to show the Republicans are against Law and Order as well as traitors.
How else would he get his underlings to keep doing illegal stuff like wiretapping? He has to show he’ll have their back.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmNow can we get back to killing IslamoNazis?
Comment by Ringo — July 2, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Who’s this “we” , jerkoff ?
Playing war games on your X-BOX doesn’t make you US military , jackass………..
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:57 pmSo the crimes of Neocons are treated differently….!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:57 pmthis is the last straw
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pmNot unexpected, but how very sad. Such a callous disregard for human life and the rule of law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pm“A commuted sentence. Pardon. What’s the difference.”
$250,000, two years probation and a felony conviction. That’s the difference. I wanted to see prison time as well, but this is better than a pardon, that’s for sure.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pm* * REPUBLICANS ARE C O W A R D S. Enforce the laws on the books. * *
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmWell, this isn’t going to make things any easier for repub candidates for President and congress. Over 72% of the public strongly disagrees with this act.
Bush has broken just about everything he has ever gotten his hands on. Now, he may actually break the Repub. party and the modern conservative movement. If Libby walking free helps to bring that about, it’s a blessing in disguise.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmIts gonna take war to get these scumbags out of the white house.Bring it on.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmspineless.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmWatch out for MOONBAT feces being flung at their keepers!! You fools didn’t see this coming at all did you.
Comment by beefeater — July 2, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
Aren’t you the same stupid chump piece of shit that posts over on HuffPo , under the name , beefeatermartini ?
If not , you have a remarkable ability to post the same monumentally stupid shit as another Chimpy leg humping moron ……Congrats , douchebag.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmOkay now it’s time to Impreach the entire lot of them, starting with Cheney!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmdid just what Cheney told him to do, yet again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmBWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is sure to send my left wing lunatics into a frenzy!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
funny these will be the same lunatics that didn’t mind all the Presidential pardons that I gave.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmWhy does the right-wing hate America?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmOMFG!
I am outraged by this Admin’s DISGUSTING behavior.
I am SO ready for torches and pitchforks.
When the H*LL will Impeachment be put back on the stinkin’ table?
(Sorry for the cap’s. I’m really pissed.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmWatch out for MOONBAT feces being flung at their keepers!! You fools didn’t see this coming at all did you.
Comment by beefeater — July 2, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
UM,”BEEFEATER’? you might want to change that,uh GAY ASS NAME-uynless you ARE gay-or Republican-then I have no problem….
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmBush statement today: “I have concluded that the prison sentence is excessive.â€
Same ol’ disregard for the rule of law. What an a**hole!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmOf course he commuted! Don’t you remember all those years back in Texas when, as Governor, he carefully examined the clemency petitions that crossed his death and, drawing upon his own history of sin and repentance, adeptly tempered justice with mercy…
oh.. wait…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmWhat a crock! Once again they prove that we have the best justice money can buy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmThe president should be assamed of this incredable injustice.
UPDATE II: Bush statement today: “I have concluded that the prison sentence is excessive.â€
i wonder what he thinks of the multiple consecutive life terms that he [and the rest of bushco] are going to get
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmYou had to know this was going to happen. Why not. Law does not apply to Saddam… I mean Bush.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmA long way from his earlier position of “I will fire anyone involved”.
One more failed policy…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmSo much for the Rule of Law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmLibby will still have to pay the fines means a book deal is imminent.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmI just wrote my congressman and senators asking them to start and/or support impeachment proceedings. You all should do the same.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pm#20
“A commuted sentence. Pardon. What’s the difference.â€
$250,000, two years probation and a felony conviction. That’s the difference. I wanted to see prison time as well, but this is better than a pardon, that’s for sure.
Comment by ann
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmAmericans who believed in the justice system or that our CIA operatives were protected have been completely thrown out.
That’s the rest of my comment. But, of course you’re right. :-)
Bush wants some kind of legacy. How about the lowest approval rating. I mean its something. The way he sees it somehting is better then nothing.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmfreudian slip alert: that should’ve been crossed his “desk” not his “death” in #33
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmWell, this isn’t going to make things any easier for repub candidates for President and congress. Over 72% of the public strongly disagrees with this act.
Bush has broken just about everything he has ever gotten his hands on. Now, he may actually break the Repub. party and the modern conservative movement. If Libby walking free helps to bring that about, it’s a blessing in disguise.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 2, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
yes, because just like I want, my wife wants, like the rest of the left wing lunatics want, what we want is a one party system. Let the Democratic party be the only party, right Col. Jack Ripper? Sounds a lot like Stalinst Soviet Union, or take your pick of the different 20th century dictatorships.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmAnybody remember,
“Anybody involved in the outing of Valerie Plame won’t be working in this administration.”
and then nobody being fired.
Now, not only were the people fired, Bush has commuted the sentence of the one found obstructing justice, by covering up for those that committed the crime.
This is exactly why Libby didn’t mind being the scape goat in covering up the outing of an under cover CIA agent.
Libby had his sentence commuted for covering up TREASON.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmThis is more proof that reich-wingers do not respect the rule of law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmWho will Scooter vote for??????????
Oh thats right as a convicted felon he is a sub citizen and can NEVER vot again. Failure in Chief, flaunt the law all your want and the 5 year requirements for pardons and commuting, we know you are all devoid of ethics and scruples.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pm$250,000.00 is nothing for a Neocon.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmMoney will come soon from Scooter’s buddies and supporters!!.
Let the trolls begin
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmWell, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
The funny thing is seeing the reactions to all of this. With all the discourse coming from BOTH sides of the aisle, it is no wonder this country is so incredibly phucked up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmWrite Pelosi. It is time for Impeachment to go back on that table!
AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmThis is par for the course for the non-accountable chympfest that our Exemptutive branch has become.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmI just wrote my congressman and senators asking them to start and/or support impeachment proceedings. You all should do the same.
Comment by Art — July 2, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
I did the same, I hope Pelosi gets it up the ass soon too, don’t you? got get that evil witch away from power.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmTrolls only get three questions? Once answered they must let us cross the bridge.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmTroll: ” Why do I sound so right?”
Answer: “Because you are right, in your own mind”
Troll: “When will I be understood”
Answer: When you can truly make sense and feel acceptance and love.
Troll: Why do I like to change the subject”
Answer: Because you’d have to make a case for the subject at hand and that would be beyond your capability.
#1
Idiot fool….pardons are not an impeachable offense.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmLet the trolls begin
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
what? you guys have been around all day. what are you talking about?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmYou guys all realize he made a call to the boss and told him to commute it now or he was going to call Fitzgerald.
ANN,
“$250,000, two years probation and a felony conviction. That’s the difference. I wanted to see prison time as well, but this is better than a pardon, that’s for sure.”
No it isn’t. The only way to get to the bottom of this was to force this perjurer into jail and make him roll over. Now that will never happen.
WE MUST CHABNGE THE CONSTITUTION!!!
This cannot be allowed to happen ever again.
Let me get this straight, you can lie to our justice system, and commit whatever other crime you wish, so long as you have the President’s favor. This kind of power is a relic of the monarchy we threw off so long ago.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmComment by MsJoanne
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmI’ve written her so many times my fingers hurt.
Outing a secret agent and 2 1/2 years is excessive but flimsy evidence while this dry drunk was a governor sent people to die. Let the comparisons begin.
I expected nothing less from Bush
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmJsch profound point and comparison with Sandy Berger since Berger also outed a covert agent and contributed to an illegal war.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmIt looks like Bush is trying for the record of having the lowest approval rating ever for any president. What can you do about a president that just doesn’t give a damn?
Nancy, anyone home? Nancy? Nancy?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmFunny thing — this happened just as Scooter’s waiting for his appeal (AND we just learned he would have to begin serving his sentence while he waited). Could it be that puppetmaster Cheney is concerned about another trial? Perhaps Scooter might not be quite so G. Gordon Liddy after seeing what prison is like and the idea of “taking one for the team” might not be so appealing.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmIslamoNazis?
The only thin even apporaching being fascists are the mental rejects who support Bush by being anti-American retards ranting about “killing IslamoNazis”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmClinton-better than the Dick-tater-ship we got now…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmTrolls only get three questions? Once answered they must let us cross the bridge.
Troll: †Why do I sound so right?â€
Answer: “Because you are right, in your own mindâ€
Troll: “When will I be understoodâ€
Answer: When you can truly make sense and feel acceptance and love.
Troll: Why do I like to change the subjectâ€
Answer: Because you’d have to make a case for the subject at hand and that would be beyond your capability.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
you hit it right on buddy. We left wingers do sound just like you say so. Incredible right, how self-righteous of us.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmJuly 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pm
I’m sure glad we, the taxpayers, spent all that money and time hearing this case, when it was just going to be commuted in the end.
Bush should’ve saved us all be pardoning Libby at the very beginning – at least we would’ve known back then what we learn today . . . Bush doesn’t care about this kind of treason.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmLet the trolls begin
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
what? you guys have been around all day. what are you talking about?
Comment by President Clinton
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmBill,
It was a joke.
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmIdiot fool….pardons are not an impeachable offense.
Comment by m12
idiot fool a commutation is not a pardon. No ethical twinge on your part for flaunting the 5 year deferrment requirement. When did your last moral fiber die?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pmPhone and Email addresses for your Congressmen and women. CALL! WRITE!! This is appalling!
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:09 pmGreat point Frank
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:09 pmThis bares repeating:
“BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is sure to send my left wing lunatics into a frenzy!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
funny these will be the same lunatics that didn’t mind all the Presidential pardons that I gave.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pm- William Clinton
idiot fool a commutation is not a pardon. No ethical twinge on your part for flaunting the 5 year deferrment requirement. When did your last moral fiber die?
Please quote the text in the Constitution which establishes this requirement.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pm#57 – change the constitution indeed. Require Senate confirmation of all pardons where the supplicant has not yet served his sentence, and all commutations. Period.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pm#65 Comment by President Clinton-
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pmleft wingers are not the problem. Right wingers are not the problem. Idiots are the problem.
LEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmI wonder if this sorry piece of shit has someone taste his food for him yet to make sure it’s not poisoned.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmHe and his administration are our country’s worst enemies.
“Excessive.” Ha, coming from the former governor of a death penalty state, whose current administration doesn’t seem to care for habeas corpus.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmISLAMOTerrorist TRAITOR Libby pardoned by ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG Bush…
Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmJune 5th was June 5th. This is July 2nd people. Keep up. That was then this is now. Don’t yoos geys know how the Chimpya werks?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:12 pmI hate myself so much.
I’m a loser troll that has nothing better to do than eat jizz and post mindless drivel on websites that have content I disagree with.
I need a drill and a large hammer so I can take myself out of this misery.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:12 pm#73
Of course they did not mind, Mr. Clinton, when you pardoned your brother.
They are Democrats.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:12 pmAwesome, this is increasing the speed at which my head could get sliced, chopped, or sawed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmAren’t you the same stupid chump piece of shit that posts over on HuffPo , under the name , beefeatermartini ?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by MCMetal — July 2, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
You bet, and thanks for noticing. That’s a double ca-ching!! What are you, a stalker? Now guess my 4 DUmmie logins.
Wasn’t Bush the governor who executed the mentally retarded? Excessive? Muck Fee.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmParis Hilton and Martha Stewart have far more courage then scooter and that closet drunk we call president.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmPreznit – Scooter is a convicted Felon, can NEVER vote again, disbarred, disgraced, Felony probation, $250,000 fine. Convicted.
Thats a win?
So impotent
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmSo incompetent
So irrelevent
I’m President and I can do anything I want. Nyah, nyah, nyah!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pm#65 Comment by President Clinton-
left wingers are not the problem. Right wingers are not the problem. Idiots are the problem.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
I 100% agree, that is why we must get rid of Pelosi, Michael Moore, Reid, Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy, my wife and the rest of the idiotic Democratic politicians ruining my party.
We left wingers only talk about the infighting going on in the Republican party, let me assure you, there is a much bigger fight going on in our party.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmThis bares repeating: “funny these will be the same lunatics that didn’t mind all the Presidential pardons that I gave.”
William Clinton
Comment by Mr. President
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmClinton did not pardon a felon who argueably sits on the border of treason for lying five times under oath.
LEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!
Yup, REAL Americans LOST.
And ISLAMOTerrorists like Bush, Libby and YOU “won”.
Well, it shows the TRUE nature of TRAITOR Bush the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG ISLAMOTerrorist…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmMr. President
“LEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
America loses on this one.
What good is a justice system where we are all supposed to be accountable when, as long you are tight with the President, you can simply not worry about it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmThank you for the links, Ms Joanne.
Although I have emailed ad nauseum, I have been compelled to continue after this latest atrocity.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:14 pm“IMPEACH!
Comment by Max Kellar — July 2, 2007″
For what?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmIMPEACH NOW !!!PLEASE!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmCrooks of a feather flock together.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmWhat?
Commutes his sentence? Since when is Bush a sitting judge?
Are they just making this crap up as they go?
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmFcking Assole has no respect for the law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmWell Libby
his appeal is over
Lets get him under oath at congress…
lying there is a crime too.
make him testify a week.
give him immunity…
if he lies
then by the next time hes convicted…. Obama WONT pardon him.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmWonder if Bush can bring back the war dead? Coward!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmLibby is covering up the outing of a CIA agent. Big difference, no comparison.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pm#73
Of course they did not mind, Mr. Clinton, when you pardoned your brother.
They are Democrats.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
why would they mind! and how about when I pardoned Mark Rich….the left applauded me! they loved me, they adore me.
my left wing friends, they never cease to be such great hypocrites!
I love you left wingers, I adore you, thank you for the 8 years of power you gave me. It was fun! really fun! I hope you vote my wife in…..gosh I miss those white house interns.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmAwesome, this is increasing the speed at which my head could get sliced, chopped, or sawed.
Comment by ForTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmTypical Sarcastic Lefty Islamo-Apologist.
IMPEACH!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmOf course they did not mind, Mr. Clinton, when you pardoned your brother.
They are Democrats.
Comment by m12
Of COURSE they did not mind, Mr. Bush 41, when you pardoned your INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST FRIEND, Orlando Bosch, still in Miami…
They are Rapeublics…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmMr President:
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmNothing you say bares repeating. Actually it doesn’t even bare being spoken the first time. When you’ve gotten your fill of attention, will you please go read quietly in your library. They do have a Troll Presidential Library don’t they?
Libby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmI think the American people should demand the ability of a President to pardon or commute a criminal be stricken from the Constitution. This is ‘kin outrageous. Pardon drug dealers, keep your felon friends out of jail….why is this even allowed? There is really no reason that he, or any other should have such an ability. What a disgrace.
INDICT RICHARD ARMITAGE
INDICT THE VP
THROW THESE CRIMINALS OUT OF OFFICE AND INTO PRISON!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmIn Bush’s statement he says the Libby family has suffered immensely…give me a break. What about the families of the American servicemen and women? And the countless Iraqi families that have lost loved ones?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmWE WIN WHILE YOU LEFTISTS TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am the Dean, and my argument STANDS.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmLEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Only tools like this consider this a “loss” for the left rather than for America. A dangerous precedent was set today. Obstructing justice and perjury is no big deal if you are in the President’s circle of friends.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:16 pm#1
Idiot fool….pardons are not an impeachable offense.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
FOOL, Libby wasn’t pardoned.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmViva President Bush!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmWhat?
Commutes his sentence? Since when is Bush a sitting judge?
Are they just making this crap up as they go?
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
My Left wing retard, take an 8th grade civics law, and shut up.
now wonder you retards voted me into office twice.
i love you my retards.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmI’m a spoiled brat who fails at everything I do, but I can still shove it to the American people and do anything I want! Fcuk you, America!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmI consider Cheney/Bush’s invasion and continued occupation of Iraq “excessive”. Can we friggin’ IMPEACH those crooks yet????
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pm“I have concluded that the prison sentence is excessive”
When did Resident Dumbass learn the meaning of the word “excessive”?…I thought he’d still be practicing his pronunciation of the word “umbiliiliiliical”….dumbass…go drop an anchor and get stuck off-shore again will ya.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmYay, another victory for the Islamo-conservatardian-Struassian-Neo-Freaks!
I’m getting my neck waxed and a haircut to make life easier for the headchoppers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmIMPEACH!!!!!!!
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
LUNATIC!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmif for nothing other than the sake of precedent, we need a nuremberg, not just an impeachment.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmOn the bright side – this makes “law and order” conservatives look like the hypocritical scumbags they are and will drive down Bush’s already pathetic approval rating even lower.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmI bet you Lefties are real disappointed that your prison rape fantasies won’t be coming true!!!!
HAHA!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:18 pmHe’ll probably be offered a position at AEI..
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmthis is the last straw
No. I fully expect that the last straw will be the pardon that GDumbya will bestow upon Little Scooter on the day that he leaves office. That will be the last straw — and it will probably be accompanied by blanket immunity from future prosecution for many, many members of his administration including Darth “Prince of Darkness” Cheney and Rums-failed.
Little Scooter is sure lucky that he wasn’t sentenced to death, though. In that case, GDumbya would be sitting around in a drunken stupor with his thumb up his arse laughing about how Little Scooter was whining “I don’t want to die”.
Now Little Scooter can join his misanthrope buddies at the AEI. I am sure that he and Wolf-whizz and “Got Milk?” Bolton have alot of catching up to do.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pm1. Successfully completed a technical project for the government client.
2. Wife and I traveling to St. Thomas for a little R&R.
3. Scooter was spared incarceration.
HALLELUJAH, THANK YOU JESUS, THANK YOU JESUS. Lord, you are so good.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmTYPING THE WORD “IMPEACH” ON A MESSAGE FORUM, IS NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD WHATSOEVER.
IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THINGS, YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO ORGANIZE, IN VAST NUMBERS, AND TAKE IT TO THE STREETS.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmHa Mr. Pretzel-dent,
I’m de-railing YOU.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pm#102
Maybe Bush should grant clemency to murderers and rapists and child molestors like all these Dem governors are doing.
After all, those crimes are so minor!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmHi Dennis,
You should really get a new schtick, because you’re still not even close to being witty.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmCriminals pardoning criminals.
They’re gestapo pigs getting caught and then policing themselves.
Bush just assured his own impeachment.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmBush made a political mistake. He should have pardoned a Puerto Rican terrorist or mafio bag man like Clinton to keep the libs quite.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmI hope a pissed-off CIA agent puts one right through Scooter’s brain…
For Libby’s TREASON against the USA…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
Comment by Frank J — July 2, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
yes, remember, what is good for America is bad for the left wing in America and Al Qaeda.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pmI’m going to start a charity, to assist head choppers, we will provide free blades and sharpening services. We will also have classes where they can practice on cows.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmI think the American people should demand the ability of a President to pardon or commute a criminal be stricken from the Constitution. This is ‘kin outrageous. Pardon drug dealers, keep your felon friends out of jail….why is this even allowed? There is really no reason that he, or any other should have such an ability. What a disgrace.
Similarly, if a man is sentenced to be executed, he shouldn’t be granted mercy just because a Democratic governor is in office. Right?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmWhat kind of day are you having Frank?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmLemming alert….hey site monitor, can we establish some basic guidelines such as you need to have an IQ greater than that of a stack of steaming shit in order to post on here.
Hey Frank…don’t you have some doughnuts to make or something…toadie fool….what a “good german lite”….dimwit.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmBush made a political mistake. He should have pardoned a Puerto Rican terrorist or mafio bag man like Clinton to keep the libs quite.
Comment by STANK — July 2, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
If he did, it would still be a republican.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmI’m a spoiled brat who fails at everything I do, but I can still shove it to the American people and do anything I want! Fcuk you, America!
Comment by pseudo-Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmTypical Sneaky Lefty Islamo-Stalinist Impostor.
Why would a CIA agent shoot Libby? He outed an Al Qaeda operative in Valarie Plame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmBush made a political mistake. He should have pardoned a Puerto Rican terrorist or mafio bag man like Clinton to keep the libs quite.
Comment by Frank J
Or an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST Cuban like his DADDY DID!!!
To keep the “cuban terrorists” (a la Fred Thompson) QUIET…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:22 pmPres Clinton and all other trolls are so stupid.
They don’t realize that civics class hasn’t been taught in years.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:22 pmCriminals pardoning criminals.
They’re gestapo pigs getting caught and then policing themselves.
Bush just assured his own impeachment.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
are you sure you are not talking about me? c’mon now bartlebee, you can’t be this stupid. you are just playing one, right? c’mon say it ain’t so.
retard, you can’t impeach for this. duh!
my wife forced me to pardon Mark Rich and her friends that were involved in international drug deals, why are you upset about Libby when the sentence was commuted, no pardon was given.
poor you, cry my left wing baby, cry.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmTreason is OK for members of The Dick’s branch of the govt.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pm#107 Libby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath.
Comment by Glen
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmGlen, please, stand in the foyer of the CIA and repeat your comment. But, better still, imagine a country where your life is exposed. Search your mind?
Comment by ForTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
You sir, are a fraud.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmLet’s pray that the sharks are hungry in St. Thomas over the holiday.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmFrank J = Moron
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmI’m gonna start a flight school for head choppers. They can practice chopping heads on the fly, in flight, or after flying into buildings.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmHey Glen- You are a total buffoon. A medal for outing a CIA covert agent? How about the death penalty for exposing a vital intelligence asset to enemies of the United States? I’m sure your idiotic comment would be appreciated by the CIA….. People like you are carbuncles on the ass of common sense.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pmIn the voice of Eric Cartman:
Hey, f*ck you judicial system! F*ck the jury, too!
Ah never worked a day in my life, and ain’t no one gonna tell me wut ah’m gonna do!
Ah’m George Dub-ya Bush and ah do wut ah want!! Ah do whatevah ah want!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmWhen convicts go free, Cons cheer!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmWasn’t Bush the governor who executed the mentally retarded? Excessive? Muck Fee.
Comment by RUCerious
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Actually it was Bill Clinton : http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1112-04.htm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmThough the trolls think it is all one big ball game… they are wrong… and they should be ignored because of this…
The disdain for the U.S. Constitution and the modern (as in last past 800 years) of western legal systems by the republican crime league is being recorded for all to see. If anything bad should happen to America in the coming decades we will all know who to blame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
Comment by Frank J
Wilson and Plame are AMERICAN PATRIOTS.
TRAITOR Bush is the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG TERRORIST.
Bush: “ALLAHU AKBAR, Y’ALL-Queda!!!”
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmThis is an OUTRAGE and Bush must be impeached immediately!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmMr. President,
I advocated in the previous Libby thread for probation with no prison whatsoever. Today, these radical “justice-loving” nutbags have once again embarrassed themselves.
I was originally for a pardon, but once the reminder of a commutation came, I decided that was the best remedy to this overblown scenario.
Today, the President has made the correct, apolitical decision regardless of the libetrolls.
To serve as a reference to the libetrolls’ previous retarded excitement: “I would rather fail in a cause that will ultimately triumph than to triumph in a cause that ultimately fails.” – Woodrow Wilson.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmAll those love letters must have worked. Or dick cheney’s bark was just getting way too loud. Sad…
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0605071libby1.html
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmnuremberg
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmI’m President and I can do anything I want. Nyah, nyah, nyah!
Comment by pseudo-Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
I’m okay with this.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmOh c’mon Mr. DentalPress,
I so long for the day my throat is sliced into on the way to full de-cap.
“Cap or de-cap”
“I’ll take the de-cap”
Maybe medicine can learn to re-capitate, and head-chopping won’t have near the impact it used to have. I’ll just get it re-attached. Whats the big deal?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmI wonder how we have forgotten what we did to the other King George, when we were no longer represented. What a perfectly timed 4th of July reminder!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmWow. Rush really does run the country.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_070207/content/01125113.guest.html
Now if we can just get that wall built..
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmCome on, CIA people—Go GET Libby!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmWell, the right wing wins another one, and America loses again.
Clinton was impeached for lying about a consetual private affair.
Bush on the other hand lies about matters of state, and the right wing scum cheers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmBush missed a couple of retarded Texans…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmNeocons Justice…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmHe obviously doesn’t respect the jury’s verdict. This is disgusting. Round ‘em up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmHow about the death penalty for exposing a vital intelligence asset to enemies of the United States? I’m sure your idiotic comment would be appreciated by the CIA
You talking about Robert Hannsen? Even he didn’t get the death penalty.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmJust hours after the DC Circuit affirmed the order requiring Scooter Libby to face jail time pending the appeal of his conviction, President Bush used the presidential pardon power to commute Libby’s sentence, thus sparing him jail time while leaving in place the conviction – thus, an unsentenced conviction for a victimless crime:
President Bush Monday spared former vice presidential aide Lewis “Scooter” Libby from going to prison for 2 1/2 years for obstructing the CIA leak investigation, a White House official said.
The official said Bush “has commuted the prison sentence … leaving intact the probation and fines handed down by the court.”
“That means he is not going to jail,” the official said.
Now, we get to hear what Hillary Clinton thinks about the proper uses of the pardon power.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmWilson and Plame are AMERICAN PATRIOTS.
TRAITOR Bush is the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG TERRORIST.
Bush: “ALLAHU AKBAR, Y’ALL-Queda!!!â€
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pmWe are no longer a nation of laws. If you are high ranking politically, you are above the law. Cheney can just pretend he’s his own government entity. Bush can just disregard the Constitution whenever he wishes on things like spying without a warrant or suspending habeus corpus.
We can no longer exist as a nation ruled by the Constitution and law if we allow this blatant abuse of power and blatant refusal for any type of oversight.
The time has come to IMPEACH President Bush and Vice President Cheney. We cannot progress on any other area until this is done.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pm“Similarly, if a man is sentenced to be executed, he shouldn’t be granted mercy just because a Democratic governor is in office. Right?”
Huh? Why would I want anyone sentenced to be executed to recieve mercy? I don’t give a damn who is in office. Take your stupid partisan statement and stick it in your ass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pmHey Frank.
Your moms here.
Want I should send her over?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:28 pmMr President,
Read the comment at this link, and then apologize to ForTruth.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/25/lugar-iraq-2/#comment-3885049
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pmHillary Clinton thinks about the proper uses of the pardon power.
Comment by Frank J
How about we hear how Hillary is going to use the power of the Patriot act against the “vast rightwing conspiracy” in this country… I am not sure I would even bother speaking out against her… you cons would deserve what you get.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pmNow, we get to hear what Hillary Clinton thinks about the proper uses of the pardon power.
When Hillary is president, she will ARREST Bush, Cheney, Libby, and the rest of the TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAGS.
NO PARDONS for these TRAITORS to the USA…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmRingo,
Go Cheney Yourself.
Georgie oversaw the most executions of ANY state!
How about the Death Row inmate they wouldn’t even give a prostetic leg to, so he could WALK to his death?
You are a scumbag.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmJosh Marshall at The Washington Monthly has this to say and I think he hits the nail directly on the head:
As you’ve no doubt already heard shouted from near every rooftop, President Bush has commuted Scooter Libby’s prison sentence. Specifically, the conviction stands — the fine and probation stand. Libby just doesn’t have to spend a day in prison.
Now, here’s the key to this.
There is a conceivable argument — a very poor one but a conceivable one — for pardoning Scooter Libby, presumably on the argument that the entire prosecution was political and thus illegitimate. But what conceivable argument does the president have for micromanaging the sentence? To decide that the conviction is appropriate, that probation is appropriate, that a substantial fine is appropriate — just no prison sentence.
This is being treated in the press as splitting the difference, an elegant compromise. But it is the least justifiable approach. The president has decided that the sentencing guidelines and the opinion of judge don’t cut it.
The only basis for this decision is that Libby is the vice president’s friend, the vice president rules the president and this was the minimum necessary to keep the man silent.
Little Scooter’s prison sentence was precisely within sentencing guidelines for the offense of which he was conducted. It is disingenuous for GDumbya to call that “excessive”. He has once again stuck a sharp stick in the eye of justice in this country. There is a strong parallel to be drawn here between this travesty and his politicization of the Supreme Court and the DOJ.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmComment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Wise words indeed, CT.
The Lefties are should get used to the disappointment.
They will find out soon enough that we do not live in their fantasy fun land, with casual unprotected sex with multiple partners, LSD, and unadulterated Stalinism.
Mr. President †
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:30 pmPhone and Email addresses for your Congressmen and women. CALL! WRITE!! This is appalling!
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
Which one? Rollover Nancy or Cave-in Harry? They won’t help, they’ll bluster, and bury the whole thing. They’ve had to replace the “DELETE” button on Democrat computers eight times just this year, and the shredders are working overtime to dump the letters of outrage.
Frankenstein rakes are the only thing to get their attention. Our government isn’t afraid of the people….
..and right now, there’s a bunch of millionaires swishing brandy snifters and grinning from ear-to-ear. And our troops still are dying. The hyenas are running the show.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmIdiots like Olbermann and Al Qaeda operatives like Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame are having a bad day.
Oh, thanks for reminding me. I can’t wait to watch Countdown tonight!! Keith will have a field day. And, Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame were and are loyal to this ocuntry. They have both served this country well. If what happened to them as loyal Americans is what comes from this Administration as a result of getting in their way, I would love to know just where this Administration’s loyalties really lie..? Because, it ain’t here.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmOh, give the shrub a break. He’s merely doing what he’s ordered to do by the Cheney branch of government. You know, exec, legislative, judicial, and cheney (who supercedes all). Gag me with a spoon.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmThe CIA spies need to “take care” of Libby. PERMANENTLY…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmTrueBlue,
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmI’m glad that Hillary will have dictatorial powers. We’ve got to herd the wingers into camps or something. We can’t let them screw up the country again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmA jury sat there and listened and deliberated. The jury system is in ruins and Bush has forever changed this country.There is no credibility for law and order. What happened to the Border Patrol agents who were doing their job who were made to be prosecuted by Bush via the Attorney General’s Office over the advice of the deputy attorney generals? Now, it appears only if you work directly for Bush do you receive commuting.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pmHey Frank.
Your moms here.
Want I should send her over?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
Son, I must tell you the truth, you are my son, and the woman that you just finished fcking is your mother.
I am sorry son for not telling you sooner.
Blessed be Allah and the prophet Muahmed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pmTrueBlue,
That sure would be a waste of a perfectly good prosthetic leg, just to walk a few yards.
/sarcasm
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pm“ALLAHU AKBAR, Scooter!!!” Y’ALL-Queda!!!
—TRAITOR Bush the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pmAnyone really surprised?…it’s Iran-Contra all over again. The rule of law doesn’t apply to Republicans who commit treasonous acts. It’s pretty obvious that Dick got the message from Scooter that he was prepared to roll if the pardon wasn’t done. The cowards were hoping they could stretch the appeal out to the end of their term and then pull the pardon card, but Justcie said otherwise. Better to have it done now and use it against the “Law and Order Party”….just another principle that they can no longer lie about.
“excessive sentence?”…yeah, a day in jail would be too tough for these Republican putzes.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pmComment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Why would I apologize?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pmDamn, wheres the casual unadulterated unprotected sex at?
Where’s the LSD,
I already know where the Stalinism is, its right in my heart…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmThis is not a surprise. The Rule of law means nothing to this administration and is yet another example of why Cheney and then Bush should be impeached.
The legal issue was that he lied to a Grand Jury. It’s what he was convicted of and Bush saying the sentence was too harsh is nothing but the height of hypocrisy. Radical Right wingers will crow about this and with the same breath consider themselves the “Law And Order” party.
This is yet another example of Republican corruption in the White House.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmWonder how long it will take tonight before Olbermann’s head explodes?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmGO GET HIM, CIA spies!!! TURN HIM UP!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmNow that all of the Repuppetcans have had their orgasms, who really didn’t see this coming (get it), I mean who’s gonna do anything about it, you, me, the not-so-oppostion party.
This country is falling apart.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so Mr. Libby could be free.
Or as the POTUS calls him ,,,,, comma #1462
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmI’m a spoiled brat who fails at everything I do, but I can still shove it to the American people and do anything I want! Fcuk you, America!
Comment by Mr. President
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmIf indeed you are Mr. President I get the joke. But judging from Mr. P’s post I would be skeptic.
Why would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Why wouldn’t you apologize? You are wrong.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pm#67
Libby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pmLibetrolls,
You are all political windbags. Sentencing-through-wing-nut-ideology is your game. Please recognize that given Mr. Libby’s standing and goodness in society, Judge Walton should have departed from sentencing guidelines and handed down this probationary sentence.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pmWhy would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Why wouldn’t you apologize? You are wrong.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
yeap, that’s the problem with mental midgets like Zooey, they don’t know when to admit they are wrong because they are too ignorant to know when they are wrong.
I am embarrassed for you Zooey, my poor mental midget.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmAny time an event gets the lunatic left reacting in this manner is a GREAT day!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmAny normal person’s head has already exploded.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmNow if we can just get that wall built..
Comment by Frank J — July 2, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
What, and block out that cheap labor market…ain’t gonna happen, not with your president in charge….
So because Congress doesn’t go along with Dumbya’s plan, the retribution is no funds for border security….as poor ‘ol Skeletor Chertoff said….he’d like to have the best stuff but we’ll just have to make due with what we have now because the Senate left any hope of improving our security on the Senate floor….
Bush/Cheney….Hijacking fear and border security since 2001.
And you Frankly NoNads are part of the F#*KING problem
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmRight-wingers, what are you cheering about??? A jury CONVICTED this crminal of obstructing the case of a CIA operative being outed. They convicted him for repeatedly LYING so the truth could not be discovered. Plame was the top expert on Iraq’s nuclear proliferation. She devoted her life to keeping us safe. Her husband was the US ambassador in Iraq who DEFIED Saddam in the first Gulf War, and was called a hero by George H. Bush for his efforts.
You are cheering a CRIMINAL being set free, and attacking American heros.
Get out of my country now. You are not Americans. You are a bunch of brainwashed fascists if you support this decision.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmHi Tracy,
Don’t take cuts in front of me in the head-chopping line. I was here first.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmFunny, For Truth.
I’m just so angry right now it’s going to take a minute to actually register.
:(
P.S.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmThey can recycle it for one of our poor veterans languishing @ Walter Reed, or at home *Waiting* for services.
Why would a CIA agent shoot Libby? He outed an Al Qaeda operative in Valarie Plame.
Comment by Frank J — July 2, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
No. The treasonous bÄ…stard outed a covert CIA operative in Valarie Plame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmOne to cover a blow job, the other to cover for treason.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:36 pmWell, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by Tom
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by JschmoAZ
Wow, doesn’t KKKarl tell you idiot trolls to rewrite your talking points before posting them here. At least play with the punctuation. You neocon nazis are getting dumber every day. Does fascism kill brain cells, apparently.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmWhy wouldn’t you apologize? You are wrong.
Comment by Zooey
It takes a man to admit wrong and apologize.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmPIPpy is just a child.
#55
According to people here it is.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmIf indeed you are Mr. President I get the joke. But judging from Mr. P’s post I would be skeptic.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
That was not me.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pm#67
Libby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
EXACTLY!!! but when I did it, my left wing sycophant followers justified it and defended me. When a Republican does exactly the same thing, then they call it a crime.
isn’t it pathetic and quite laughable the level of partisanship in this nation.
I LOVE IT!!! EASY TO CONTROL THE MASSES!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmLibby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
No he didn’t.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pm#211
I guess breaking the law is relative to you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmWasn’t Bush the governor who executed the mentally retarded?
Comment by Ringo — July 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Yes. Bush is the lowest peice of human scum to ever stain the face of this planet, and like his mentor, Adolf Hitler, he executed the mentally handicapped.
JUST LIKE HITLER.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmWhy wouldn’t you apologize? You are wrong.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
What are you even talking about?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmyeap, that’s the problem with mental midgets like Zooey, they don’t know when to admit they are wrong because they are too ignorant to know when they are wrong.
I am embarrassed for you Zooey, my poor mental midget.
Comment by Conservatron — July 2, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
Blah blah blah, President Clinton/valiantthehater. You don’t have the first idea what you’re talking about.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmOf course these criminals protect each other.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmSo his reasoning is that the sentence was excessive. Since he will not be going to jail at all I guess he believes the judge should have not given him anytime. I am sure there are a lot of people serving obstruction of justice time that wished that could get a deal like that!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmLibby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Actually, TRAITOR Libby was CONVICTED of PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION.
Clinton was NOT.
And it was also made clear in Libby’s trial that Libby, Armitage, and Rove were ALL directed by Cheney to expose Valerie Wilson’s identity.
THAT is why Fitzgerald said there is a “cloud” over Cheney and his Office.
And Fitz has THREE MORE YEARS to do his investigation.
ONLY HE can end it. He has NOT yet done so.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmScooter did not out Valerie Plame. Richard Armitage did. Scooter was convicted for something the Clintoons do every day. Forget things that happened.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmLEFTIES LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
America has lost, Americans have lost, Democracy has lost. You Bushco supporters are the only people too stupid to know you have lost too.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmBush has once again shown his utter disdain and his total lack of regard for the rule of law that is the essential backbone of this country and our democracy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmAnd, I can just see Cheney lurking in the shadows on this one. He must be using that vulcan mind-meld again..
His hand is definitely in this..
Someone will write Libby a check to pay off his fine and he will continue to keep his mouth shut. This is the MOST corrupt gang of thugs and crooks I have EVER seen in office in my lifetime!!!!!!
Nitrogenous Frank,
This is a great day. The message to the world is: It’s ok to blow the cover of CIA agents, who are protecting us, therefore its ok to reduce our national security. Therefore giving the Islamo-Stalinists a leg up on their mission. Truly a great day indeed!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmRaise your hand if you are misinformed that Libby outed Plame.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmBush yapping about a harsh sentence for Libby is hypocrisy, because the 2 US border guards that shot a Mexican drug runner in the ass, who was trying to smuggle in hundreds of pounds of pot, got sentences of 10 to 20 years in prison and Bush has refused to pardon them or reduce their time in jail. Libby should have gotten at least 5 to 10 years in prison.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmThe next President of the United States had this to say on the topic:
Fred Thompson on Libby
NBC ^ | 7/2/07 | Joel Seidman
Likely presidential candidate Fred Thompson (R) released this statement: “I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children. While for a long time I have urged a pardon for Scooter, I respect the President’s decision. This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.”
(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com …
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pm#217
Care to elaborate.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:40 pmIt takes a man to admit wrong and apologize.
PIPpy is just a child.
Comment by Wayne — July 2, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
I guess I gave him too much credit.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:40 pmJust a couple of GOOD CIA MARKSMEN, boys.
Go “take care” of Libby!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:40 pmBush’s approval will drop another 5 points at least because of this.
The MSM will shower him with praise. Broder is salivating right now.
The Democrats will bitch, but do nothing as usual. Remember, “impeachment is off the table”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:41 pmThis country is falling apart.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so Mr. Libby could be free.
Or as the POTUS calls him ,,,,, comma #1462
Comment by Tired Of Fighting — July 2, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
Does everybody get this?
This parent is grieving a lost son. Lost for no good reason.
I’m lucky. Minblue has a condition that will exclude her from service. I can still hug her.
Do you a$$bag trolls GET that?
—————————————
Tired,
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for your post.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:41 pm#71
What are we gonna say that will make them all of a sudden act like what they were put into office to do?
It’s time to just lay down go to sleep and wake up when its all over. This Presidents knows no bounds, the Congress has no balls, and the people have no clue.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so that liars and cheats could be free
AKA comma #1462 to the POTUS
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:41 pmThere’s no need to troll this thread. The regulars are entertaining enough all by themselves.
When I saw this news, I knew you guys wouldn’t let me down.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:42 pmHillary and Obama might try and “triangulate” here.
Watch out, especially on the Hillary side…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmThough a little premature, decision to commute was the right one.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/07/though-premature-bushs-commutation-of.html#links
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmCare to elaborate.
Sure:
TRAITOR Libby was CONVICTED of PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION.
Clinton was NOT.
And it was also made clear in Libby’s trial that Libby, Armitage, and Rove were ALL directed by Cheney to expose Valerie Wilson’s identity.
THAT is why Fitzgerald said there is a “cloud†over Cheney and his Office.
And Fitz has THREE MORE YEARS to do his investigation.
ONLY HE can end it. He has NOT yet done so.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmLOL,
What is it about second rate actors that seem to get the republicans so hard? I mean c’mon Fred Thompson? I sincerely doubt he will ever be president.
I love that the response from the right is haha we win you lose, how childish can you get?
On topic; not a huge surprise to be honest, Bush has to protect his interests.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmYou are cheering a CRIMINAL being set free, and attacking American heros.
Years behind! The events you are discussing happened in January 2001.
Clinton, Rich, and Rostentowski!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmBush’s approval will drop by another 5 points or so.
The MSM will shower him with praise for this.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmI liked the Clinton years but they are over. Can you dipshits understand this? What is your freaking problem. Can your boy not stand on his own without your endless but Clinton, Clinton, Clinton crap. Seems obsessive. Weirdos!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmLibby’s crimes were much more extensive than Clinton’s. Stop lying. Clinton was not even charged with perjury. The crime of perjury can only be committed if you lie about something material to the case. Stating you were not at a location a crime was committed when you actually were is perjury. The Lewinsky question was not material to the Paula Jones case at all, which is why there was no charge of perjury against Clinton in that case.
Also Libby had MULTIPLE counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. He lied about something direcly material to his case, which is why he was charged and convicted by a jury.
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That’s FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmI’ve discovered getting all angry over it doesn’t help anything. Accept hurt my own blood pressure. In all actuality, most of these issues have no effect on our daily lives. It’s all about ideas.
Most of this is out of our control. What do we do? Write our f*cking Congress People? Gimme a break. That’s a joke.
America asked for this President, we get what we ask for. Most people are dumb morons, the smart ones know this is all bullcrap. The conservative smart ones are addicted to money and power.
Get your popcorn and watch the ride. This is only gonna get better.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmWe are no longer a nation of laws. If you are high ranking politically, you are above the law.
Hi, my name is Roger Clinton. My slick brother set me free!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmLibby didn’t commit treason. He committed the same crime Clinton did.
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
No he didn’t.
Comment by Nat — July 2, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
yes, he did, perjury and obstruction of justice, I was also accused of this and a judge took away my law licenses and put a fine on me for committing these crimes.
I would say get an education, but you would stop voting Democratic.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmBush thinks reducing Libby’s sentence is being patriotic for the 4th of July holiday, but it’s an outrage > PERIOD.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmBetter yet….raise both hands if you’re a Bush supporter…
Good…
Now use them to take your head outta your ass.
That is all….class dismissed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmLibby’s crimes were much more extensive than Clinton’s. Stop lying. Clinton was not even charged with perjury. The crime of perjury can only be committed if you lie about something material to the case. Stating you were not at a location a crime was committed when you actually were is perjury. The Lewinsky question was not material to the Paula Jones case at all, which is why there was no charge of perjury against Clinton in that case.
Also Libby had MULTIPLE counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. He lied about something direcly material to his case, which is why he was charged and convicted by a jury.
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That’s FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
Absolutely correct!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmLibby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath.
Comment by Glen
If we still had a Department of Justice, this troll should be brought up for treason and hung as a traitor. Nice job blaming the people who have devoted their lives protecting this country for the shit pile brought to us by Bushco.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmLibby’s crimes were much more extensive than Clinton’s. Stop lying. Clinton was not even charged with perjury. The crime of perjury can only be committed if you lie about something material to the case. Stating you were not at a location a crime was committed when you actually were is perjury. The Lewinsky question was not material to the Paula Jones case at all, which is why there was no charge of perjury against Clinton in that case.
Also Libby had MULTIPLE counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. He lied about something direcly material to his case, which is why he was charged and convicted by a jury.
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That’s FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
Comment by TheCrapture — July 2, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Sorry, Clinton was charged with perjury and obstruction of justice, to name two of the impeacheable offenses he wash charged with.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmContempt for the Constitution and the rule of law = valid and appropriate reasons to impeach. gonzo, the big dick, and the Worst President in the History of the United States. Now is the time, Congress…..
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmTo drive the moonbats even crazier Bush should now give Libby; Valarie Plames old job. It would be first time we have had an American in that position in a long time.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pm#244
Oh, sorry Clinton was just impeached by the House of Representatives for perjury and obstruction. The fact that the votes didn’t come to remove him doesn’t mean he wasn’t guilty.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pm#225 Scooter did not out Valerie Plame. Richard Armitage did. Scooter was convicted for something the Clintoons do every day. Forget things that happened.
Comment by null
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmWe are not talking about outing, but some will. The fact is Scooter lied several times under oath and if you did you’d go to prison if you didn’t work for Bush.
I’ve discovered getting all angry over it doesn’t help anything. Accept hurt my own blood pressure. In all actuality, most of these issues have no effect on our daily lives. It’s all about ideas.
Most of this is out of our control. What do we do? Write our f*cking Congress People? Gimme a break. That’s a joke.
America asked for this President, we get what we ask for. Most people are dumb morons, the smart ones know this is all bullcrap. The conservative smart ones are addicted to money and power.
Get your popcorn and watch the ride. This is only gonna get better.
Comment by ForTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Now you’re talkin’!!!
I figured that out about 8 years ago!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmTracy: “Raise your hand if you are misinformed that Libby outed Plame.”
Young lady, nobody is arguing that. Scooter Libby obstructed the investigation into who ordered the outing of a covert operative. For that crime, he was found guilty of obstruction of justice. Clinton was not found guilty of obstruction of justice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmHi, my name is Roger Clinton. My slick brother set me free!
Hi, MY name is ORLANDO BOSCH, an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST.
Dubya’s DADDY set ME free.
So, I can be a TERRORIST who lives in Miami to this day…
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:47 pm#236
SGT Stephen R. Sherman was not my child, he was my Soldier, and I miss him as if he were my own.
thx
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so the right could call us traitors
or as the POTUS calls him comma #1462
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:47 pmI guess I gave him too much credit.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Ummmm… you just provided a link that showed ForTruth admitting it was an Islamo-Stalinist…
Why would I apologize?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmBush should totally give Libby Val’s old job. Then out him. Haha.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmRaise your hand if you are misinformed that Libby outed Plame.
If you recall, he was one of those directed by Cheney to get this out their in order to payback Joe Wilson for his exposing their wonderful forged Niger documents that started this whole stupid war.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmLibby was going to prison for lying under oath to investigators and obstructing justice. He broke the law, and like other Americans who break the law, he was going to have to pay for it (even if he was ordered by someone else to do it).
President Clinton,
Your followers adored it when you stroked you pardon pen. What makes this one suddenly disgraceful? You hypocratic sh!tbag!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmJeez, I’m only 100 comments in, and the quality of the troll
taunting has really gone down since last I bothered with
the comments.
Fire these immature clowns! We want the entertaining
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmtrolls back!
This President can not possibly disgrace our troops and our country more than this. And he has to hold private meetings to figure out why he is not so popular? While our soldiers fight and die for his war, he excuses those who would cut them down from behind. Support our troops? What a farce.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmM12
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmWhich political high rank did Old Rog hold? Can this discussion be about the right/wrong of the Libby situation not any old Clinton shit? Explain to me why you support this decision. If it makes sense I might be persuaded. If it is jsut more Clinton did it crap, I can not in good conscience listen to your opinions. Thanks. I await your informed, logical, and consistent response
#245
The presidential bitch of a candidate is leading the Democratic pack…I think. She is of the same power hungry mindset as her husband…probably worse. We don’t want a repeat.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmBush’s Father did alot this weekend for his baby boy. Mommy Bush made cookies for President Putin to soften him up. Daddy Bush helped his son with the powerful Russian President who didn’t bring his parents. Now Americans and the world know that if your convicted of a crime and your a loyal GOP plus you have lied for the Vice President you will never have to pay for those crimes. Libby never admitted to his crime or said it was wrong yet that means nothing.
Libby will be rewarded for his crimes and most likely appointed our next Attorney General. Judges and Courts have just been put in their place, even the Appeals Court means nothing.
Bush should allow lawyers to know they aren’t allowed to prosecute any Republicans and save the taxpayer and jurors time and money. This is a good day for criminals and a bad day for Justice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pm#244
Oh, sorry Clinton was just impeached by the House of Representatives for perjury and obstruction. The fact that the votes didn’t come to remove him doesn’t mean he wasn’t guilty.
Comment by Tracy
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmActually, he was not found guilty, you’re right. He was not removed from office. Bush probably would not be either, but he needs to face impeachment. To deny our country the due process taken from it by this admin. is to stand in the land of Oz with poppy fields placing you to sleep.
Bush waited to do this after the Congress went on vacation for the 4th of July holiday. They do not come back till next week, so will Bush attack Iran after the 4th, before the Congress returns on the 9th of July?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pmGee, it’s good to be the President’s friend…
I think it’s time your government guys removed Clemency from the President’s powers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pmThe “Lefties” didn’t lose today, Americans lost today.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pmTired Of Fighting,
Sorry for the mistake, but I know you must think about him everyday.
He was your family, blood or not. (Brothers in Arms)
Thank you for honoring his memory.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:52 pmFire these immature clowns! We want the entertaining
trolls back!
Comment by DemandTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
Excuse me sir.
That is not your decision to make.
Take it up with the Dean if you have a problem.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:52 pmWhere are the communtation of the sentences given to border agents Ramos and Campaneas?
Oh wait, they are not FRIENDS of the president!
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:54 pmBush is a very dangerous man right now. More so than ever. He has nothing to lose, doesn’t care about anything except his way or the highway.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:54 pm“Libby was convicted in March of lying to authorities and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative’s identity. He was the highest-ranking White House official ordered to prison since the Iran-Contra affairâ€
………and before that, it was Watergate……YES Virginia, there is a pattern here….GOP=corrupt…..
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pmI didn’t lose sh!t. We are closer to getting our heads chopped now that its ok to f*ck up National Security.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pmGlen: “Libby and anyone involved in the outing of Valerie Plame should be give Medals not prison time. They outed a rogue element in the CIA would sought to undermine information sought by the President of the United States. They violated their oath.”
Wow. Talk about pulling bull out of your butt. Valerie Plame, for the umpteenth time, was a Non-official covert operative who ran a CIA front company called Brewster Jennings Associates. The reason the CIA initiated a criminal inquiry into her outing was that she was a covert operative. Her job was to track the illegal proliferation of nuclear technology and mainly centered on Iran. As a NOC, she was often in situations where she could have been arrested and the CIA would have to disavow their connection to her. So, she was kind of like a “Mission Impossible” character. The people you say deserve medals ruined her career. If this was another Mission Impossible movie, they would be the villans.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pm#273, Jay Randal,
If I was Reid, I’d hussle them right the h*ll back into session.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pm#266 President Clinton,
Your followers adored it when you stroked you pardon pen. What makes this one suddenly disgraceful? You hypocratic sh!tbag!
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:56 pmI’m sorry. Could you inform us of the pardoned ( oh, I’m sorry, commuted) person who’s president shifted his stance and raised such a clamour across the wide breadth of America left and right?
Why would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Whatever.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 pm#260
Tell that to Nat. So Clinton was not impeached by the House of Representatives for purjury and obstruction? History says otherwise. BTW it’s not young lady. What’s up with false projection?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 pmIs that why Putin is up in Maine for a few days, so Bush and his dad can force Putin to agree to allow US/Israel to bomb the crap out of Iran before next Monday?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmTracy you might want to suggest to the RNC that the Presidential powers get reeled in. We wouldn’t want Hillabitch to have the same power as King George now wouldn’t we?
I can see the Conservatards going ape shit (de-volving) when Hillabitch gets her way.
We’ll be arguing on this board about it. Just wait.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmImpeach.
~Sean
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmExcellent news! The GOP can now kiss their chances in 2008 goodbye … All to protect one of the members of the BushCo crime family. The Dems don’t have to do any work now. The GOP is going sacrifice Bush and Cheney before these criminals can drag them down any lower.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmTracy,
Noone really gives a flying f*ck who you want for President. Too bad you don’t have any money because you could bet that the next President will be a Democrat, a true American not these Repugnicunt whores you so admire.
The one good thing that this sticky pile of sh*t in the White House is done is expose the radical right for what they are and has marginalized the Repugnicunts for years.
Watch on the sidelines you pukes, while the real Americans turn this ship around.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmWhat more bush crimes and total disregard for the law does Mrs. Impeachment is off the table” need?
This time if she does not hear us, it’s time to listen to Roseanne Barr. (yup, the comedian)
http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/index.php
“Here goes: recall Pelosi! Any democrat who votes with the president on sending one billion dollars a day out of america is a traitor to the working people of this country too! STOP THIS WAR!!! BUSH IS BLEEDING THIS COUNTRY DRY WITH NO BID CONTRACTS WHICH ROB OUR SOLDIERS OF DECENT PAY AND MEDICAL BENEFITS!!!! SAVE OUR TROOPS!!!”
This is followup to her previous rant:
June 28, 2007
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:59 pmIMPEACH….
IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE PRESIDENT, THEY ARE TRAITORS TO AMERICA, AND SO ARE ALL OF THEIR SUPPORTERS. IMPEACH! ANYONE IN CONGRESS WHO REFUSES TO SAVE OUR UNION FROM THESE TRAITORS BY DOING NOTHING NEEDS TO BE RECALLED. SAVE OUR TROOPS!!! SAVE OUR SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS AND JOBS. FEED OUR HUNGRY AND POOR! SAVE THE DROWNING PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS! ANYONE WHO MENTIONS PARIS HILTON ONE MORE TIME MUST DIE!
#266
“If you recall, he was one of those directed by Cheney to get this out their in order to payback Joe Wilson”
And yes this has all been proven in a court of law. Nice try.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:59 pmOUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmI would have thought you dopes on the left would have been smart enough to have seen this coming?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmNow I guess Mr. Libby will get a job at Fixed er Fox News, and get a War Stories show like Mr. North that other “patriot”. Or maybe a job at Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal (it’s just a matter of time), then he can tell us all about the “rule of law” and how to break it.
Now for all you “Clinton did it too er’s” This president ran on a platform that said he would be totally different than Mr. Clinton, and that he would bring Honor and Integrity back to the White House. If any of you can come out from under your man crushes and truly say without a shadow of a doubt that………….. aw forget it. HAPPY LIBBYPENDENCE DAY!!!!!
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the the POTUS and the “Law and Order” Repuppetcan’s call him,,,,,,,,,,,,,comma #1462
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmDean of Trolls: “Your followers adored it when you stroked you pardon pen. What makes this one suddenly disgraceful? You hypocratic sh!tbag!”
George HW Bush’s pardons included:
3 indicted co-conspirators in Iran Contra who were scheduled to testify as to his part in the scandal
The head of Occidental Petroleum who had given big bucks to his campaign.
A convicted heroin smuggler 2 years into a 55-year sentence for bringing a huge amount of heroin into the country.
Somehow, the same “liberal media” which was outraged when Clinton pardoned a fugitive financier at the personal request of the Prime Minister of Israel had nothing to say about the elder Bush’s pardons.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmIf this was another Mission Impossible movie, they would be the villans.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
If this was a Mission Impossible Movie, Libby, Cheney and anyone involved in the leak would have been found with a bullet in their heads.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pm#273
“Actually, he was not found guilty, you’re right.”
He was guilty though…just not found guilty by an all powerful unaccountable judge.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmTell that to Nat. So Clinton was not impeached by the House of Representatives for purjury and obstruction? History says otherwise. BTW it’s not young lady. What’s up with false projection?
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
An impeachment is not a conviction, it’s an indictment. Unlike Libby, Clinton wasn’t convicted – idiot.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmWhatever.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Okay. Did I miss something here?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmThey gotta protect this PNAC man, cuz he knows the plan, he knows more dirt than he should. Its worth the political fallout to protect the secrets of Bush/Cheney. They know how bad they’ve been.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmtrueblue > Reid and Pelosi might have already agreed to let Bush attack Iran while they are on vacation. From July 5th to the 8th are 4 days of extreme danger for our nation. If Bush attacks Iran, then global WWIII begins.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 pmJustice is Dead! R.I.P.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 pmBush’s statement today is, of course, a far cry from the sterling ethical standard he promised to uphold in the run-up to the 2000 presidential election. At the Republican National Convention in August 2000, Bush pompously declared:
That October, then-Governor Bush introduced his soon-to-be aborted “what is right” standard of White House ethics:
For the full story, see:
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pm“Neither Right Nor Legal: Bush Commutes Libby’s Sentence.”
Libby’s gonna be a visiting scholar at AEI. Sharing an office with Spithead.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pmHe was guilty though…just not found guilty by an all powerful unaccountable judge. Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
So now you believe in guilty until proven innocent? BAHAHAHA, how *fascist* of you dum bass!
No, he wasn’t guilty of anything, except being the victim of a wingnut witchhunt. Whereas libby was involved in outing a CIA operation, and trying to cover up the actions.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pmTracy: “And yes this has all been proven in a court of law. Nice try.”
OMG. Libby is convicted for obstructing the investigation into this and now you pretend to have some respect for the law??!! Nice try.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pmComment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Wise words indeed, CT.
The Lefties are should get used to the disappointment.
They will find out soon enough that we do not live in their fantasy fun land, with casual unprotected sex with multiple partners, LSD, and unadulterated Stalinism.
Mr. President â€
Comment by Mr. President
Why don’t you two pretty boys go get a room so we don’t have to witness your circle jerk here. Or are you two already in a room, sitting on opposite sides of the bed, naked and winking to each other. Oh is that other happy a$$hole, Troll Clinton, sitting between you two on that dirty Motel 6 bedspread?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pm#273
What charges for impeachment would you bring exactly?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmIt is ‘The Jury vs. The Decider’
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmMoral of story: If you tell the truth and work to prevent WMD from falling into radical Islamist hands like Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson—you get retaliation from the Cheney-Bush administration. If you help lie us into an illegal counter-productive war, costing one million lives and over two Trillion dollars, then you get protected.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmTell that to Nat. So Clinton was not impeached by the House of Representatives for purjury and obstruction? History says otherwise. BTW it’s not young lady. What’s up with false projection?
Yup, IMPEACHED (brought to TRIAL),
NOT Convicted!!
Libby was CONVICTED on FOUR FELONY COUNTS…
So, why DO you “false project”???
And Marc Rich’s LAWYER was…..
SCOOTER LIBBY!!!
And Daddy Bush pardoned Orlando Bosch, an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST who STILL lives in Miami…
I suppose an ISLAMOTerrorist azzhole-licker of Saudi OIL WHOREBAG Bush like YOU thinks that’s GREAT, right???
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pmOkay. Did I miss something here?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Oh dear boy, you miss *everything* that requires more than a gradeschool level intellect…
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pm“If you recall, he was one of those directed by Cheney to get this out their in order to payback Joe Wilsonâ€
And yes this has all been proven in a court of law. Nice try.
What WAS proven in a court of law, was that he lied under oath and obstructed a federal investigation. That IS still a criminal offense in this country. He WAS found guilty and he should have to pay the penalty like ANY other American would have to (unless they were tight with this Administration.
That could never happen though because he knows too much. They knew they were going to do this all along. The fee of $250,000 won’t be paid by him. He will be rewarded nicely for his silence. His family will be taken care of. He is a good soldier for this rogue Administration. They look out for their own. Mob mentality. The law is irrelevant.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmIt is a very sad day indeed.
Bush has commuted Bin Laden’s sentence since 9/11. Why wouldn’t he offer the same courtesy to convicted felon Irve Libby.
-GSD
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmWhat charges for impeachment would you bring exactly?
Comment by Tracy — July 2, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
BAHAHA, where should we begin? Lying to congress. Compromising national security. Corruption, and coverup. We can go on, and on. You must be from texas, because you’re so dum you’re TEXAS DUMB!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmI will be back > going to watch Wolf Blitzer on CNN spin this story.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmI would have thought you dopes on the left would have been smart enough to have seen this coming? – michael
Quite so. But of course you geniuses on the right must surely understand that full-on dual Impeachment is now the sole remaining remedy to restore the rule of law, our Constitution, and our most fundamental American principles?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmMoral of story: If you tell the truth and work to prevent WMD from falling into radical Islamist hands like Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson—you get retaliation from the Cheney-Bush administration. If you help lie us into an illegal counter-productive war, costing one million lives and over two Trillion dollars, then you get protected.
And a MEDAL OF “freedom”, too!
Have they set the date for scooter’s medal ceremony yet??
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmOMFG! I am outraged by this Admin’s DISGUSTING behavior. I am SO ready for torches and pitchforks. When the H*LL will Impeachment be put back on the stinkin’ table? (Sorry for the cap’s. I’m really pissed.)
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
Whah, this is jest horrendous. Pardoning a terrible criminal lahk Libby, who, um, er, lahd–about a, um, non-crime.
Jest terrible.
When ah pardoned them terrorists, fugitives, cronies, criminals and crooked campaign contributors, shucks, ah was doing it faw thu good uhv the country.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmWhy don’t you two pretty boys go get a room so we don’t have to witness your circle jerk here. Or are you two already in a room, sitting on opposite sides of the bed, naked and winking to each other. Oh is that other happy a$$hole, Troll Clinton, sitting between you two on that dirty Motel 6 bedspread? Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
They both seem more like park/truck-stop bathroom types…
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmBy removing Libby’s jail term from his sentence, President Bush once again demonstrates his lack of respect for the American system of law and Democracy as a whole. Bush might as well have offered Libby an outright pardon. Frankly, Libby deserves to serve his time for the crimes he has committed. If the world were fair, Cheney would also see his time in prison. It is vital that we hold on our political leaders accountable for their actions in every arena and on every issue. In the realm of global poverty, for example, we need to push our leadership in Washington to abide by the UN’s Millennium Development Goals, which the United States along with 191 other nations signed in 2000 and which commit the global community to eliminating extreme poverty by 2025. So as Bush saves Libby from being held accountable for his illegal and undemocratic actions, we are compelled to think about what our other political leaders are doing (or, rather, what they aren’t doing) and hold them accountable, just as we have tried to hold Libby accountable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:07 pmBush’s 2000 speech crap was a manipulation taking advantage of the bad taste in the collective public mouth (no pun intended) from Clinton’s oval office orgasm. Bush just read it out loud.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:07 pmThis President made statements to the American people that he wanted to get to the bottom of any leak that came from his administration.
This is just an example of the haves & the have-mores doing for their own before doing for the American people. Integrity? What’s that? Moral compass? What’s that??
Oh yeah, election after election these guys claimed some sort of moral high-ground as supposedly serving the religious right and yet when push comes to shove, they turn a blind eye toward personal responsibility, doing unto others, and work hardest at protecting their big-business friends who benefit from illegal immigration and tax loopholes left and right. Never mind no-bid contracts, war profiteering, and flipping off the environment every chance they get.
Self-serving bastards. I’m sick about this – you know I USED to be a Republican but between this and Bush’s pro-immigration/pro-business amnesty positions, never mind the Iraq war disaster, I’m SO over them.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 pmGuys, calm down. The whole GOP are sh&t’n a brick right about now.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 pm“CNN’s legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said that ‘This is a complete departure from the usual procedure. Scooter Libby is getting a very special brand of justice. He is getting enormous privileges that are not available to ordinary criminal convicts.’”
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 pmlet’s go to Washington…
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:09 pmone more win for the good guys
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:09 pmMr Libby will be starting his new career with a Fox News show next week /sarcasm off
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:09 pmTracy, just read John Dean’s “Worse than Watergate.” That was published in 2004 and Dean had already found about four solid articles for impeachment. Since then, Bush has broken the Geneva Convention Treaty (a constitutional crime), broken FISA law (a consitutional crime), engaged in election fraud (caging), broken the Hatch Act, broken the Intelligence Identities Act, and refused numerous attempts by Congress to provide documentation for official acts (arguably a constitutional crime.)
This administration will be recognized as the most lawless in history. The vast majority of Constitutional scholars are already in agreement on that
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:10 pmWhen Daddy Bush pardoned Elliott Abrams, John Pointdexter, etc., for their TREASON in Iran/Contra, he called these CRIMINALS
“patriots”.
For covering HIS azz like Libby is covering boyidiot.
Abrams, Pointdexter and Negroponte STILL work for THIS administration.
Imagine THAT!
An “administration” of THUGS and WAR CRIMINALS…
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 pmI just love how the trolls are using 1) Sandy Berger did it or 2) BIll CLinton did it.
Do you trolls actually think two wrongs make a right?
If Bill Clinton is such a bad president then why do you guys strive to be exactly like him?
Why do you want your president to do everything that Bill Clinton did?
Fu*k, I don’t like Bill Clinton as much as the trolls do. They worship and adore him like nobody else.
Nuckin’ futz!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 pmThe Soprano’s are running this fu*king country. The community, our community, that is being trashed by this mafia revolts, starting yesterday. The revolution must be in progress. Fu*k. These. Hacktrons.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 pmCorrupticons, go to Hell, Hell, Hell. You will reap what you sew.
#289
She would actually have to get elected though.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:12 pmI’m sorry. Could you inform us of the pardoned ( oh, I’m sorry, commuted) person who’s president shifted his stance and raised such a clamour across the wide breadth of America left and right?
Comment by leftcoast
Ahem.
Mr. Leftcoast,
The President’s decision today was fair and apolitical. It took into account the good deeds while taking into account his conviction. That averaged out to be his two-year probationary sentence and a stiff fine. Word-of-mouf crimes for a man of his character absolutely do not merit any prison time.
This was a consistent and fair practice of presidential powers.
Please contact Mr. President if you have any further inquiries. He would be the final contact for any needed clarification.
Signed,
The Dean, CT_V1
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:12 pmThe opinions of the jury mean nothing.
The supeneas mean nothing.
The Constitution “is just a Goddamn piece of Paper”
The administration is outside all branches of govenment.
Burn that goddamn house to the ground.
They have disposed of all measures of the rule of law.
There is no law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmJoe DiGinova, former attorney general is talking on CNN. He is trying to rise this to the same level as Susan McDougal, god what an idiot.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmone more win for the good guys
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmre #10, Mr. President, If you think conservatives don’t have drugs and casual sex with multiple partners, then you must not get out very much. Do the names Jeff Gannon, Ted Haggard, Tom Foley, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, Newt Gingrich, Ron Reagan, or Hookergate ring a bell? Do you think our coke-head fratboy President was a virgin when he married 36?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmDC is a sovereign Nation. Like Indian Reservations and the Vatican.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pm26% approval by the mentally infirm, and falling. 74% DISGUST, and rising. George Shrub is striving to be the biggest hack of all time. Admirable goal, for a total deuche.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pmSenator Reid – I noticed you said that ‘history’ will judge President Bush for this decision. F*** history! Why don’t you judge President Bush for this decision? Are you gambling that he will destroy his party before he destroys the country? You are either criminally negligent or you have the biggest balls of any American alive.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pm#292
“President will be a Democrat, a true American not these Repugnicunt whores you so admire.”
True american…LOL!! Better get a different field of candidates!
“Watch on the sidelines you pukes, while the real Americans turn this ship around.”
I guess you mean those in Congress like Pelosi and Reid who have a lower approval rating than Bush…right?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pmSimple solution:
Get a caravan of Prison buses and line them up outside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Remove any and all people within the building and take them directly to Federal prison.
You might have a couple of innocents in there, but not more than a couple.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmi just found out i may be wrong about that…
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmHow can you not impeach after this?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmConservatards don’t do drugs or have sex, cuz they say so, and honestly convinced themselves it wasn’t what it really was.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmThe GOP is f’d. The GOP is f’d. I’m freak’n celebrating today!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmWhat will I tell the children when they say, “why should I be punished if traitors to my country aren’t?”‘
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 pmSection 1-2.113 Standards for Considering Commutation Petitions
A commutation of sentence reduces the period of incarceration; it does not imply forgiveness of the underlying offense, but simply remits a portion of the punishment. It has no effect upon the underlying conviction and does not necessarily reflect upon the fairness of the sentence originally imposed. Requests for commutation generally are not accepted unless and until a person has begun serving that sentence. Nor are commutation requests generally accepted from persons who are presently challenging their convictions or sentences through appeal or other court proceeding.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmRule of law out the window! Yeah go Bush go!
Why are you cheering this righties? Having a king like figure for a president is not a good thing no matter what side of the political aisle you are on.
It won’t happen but it is nice to appeal to the online righties to wake up. Understand your “King” really doesn’t like you that much, you aren’t rich enough and you spend way too much time on the Internets with all us libtards.
Plain and simple you are a useful tool, a herd to be directed, but in the end you are one of us the little guys, you know loyal subjects I mean citizens of King George’s US of A. Your sentences simply wouldn’t be commuted as you’re a serf not a court member.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmImpeachment is too good for these criminals… Time to storm the Bastille!
This makes me sick.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmLibby was a VERY good soldier. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if Bush rewarded him with making his a US Attorney or maybe how about a Supreme Court Justice!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pm#301
Never said he was…moron.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pm“History will judge him”? Reid said that? We judge him, now.
And if Reid stands in the way, then he will be judged the same.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmrachel’s talking with jane hamsher now…
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmbetter go to firedoglake and get the real story…
…
Cool! Yea!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmComment by shane
You’ve lost, I see. You’re political transgressions have failed you today, but contrary to your outragous “America loses” claim, it is only your ideology that has failed you.
Keep repeating yourself. I would actually hear fewer repeats from a broken record.
Justice is served, so keep yappin.’
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmMr. Leftcoast,
The President’s decision today was fair and apolitical. It took into account the good deeds while taking into account his conviction. That averaged out to be his two-year probationary sentence and a stiff fine. Word-of-mouf crimes for a man of his character absolutely do not merit any prison time.
This was a consistent and fair practice of presidential powers.
Please contact Mr. President if you have any further inquiries. He would be the final contact for any needed clarification.
Signed,
The Dean, CT_V1
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmThere was nothing excessive about the sentencing guidlines for the offenses committed. But, if you feel so compelled, please address the crack vs. cocaine sentences with the president.
This is NOT APOLITICAL? The judge was conservative, the prosecutor was conservative. The jury was of peers. This was completely outside the acts of the legal process, even if under the constitiution.
F the ‘War On Terra’….. it’s the
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmWAR ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Impeachment is too good for these criminals… Time to storm the Bastille!
This makes me sick.
Comment by unbelievable
You are absolutely right!!!!
Let’s go.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmjane says this is “obstruction of justice”
on bush’s part…
yep.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pm“I guess you mean those in Congress like Pelosi and Reid who have a lower approval rating than Bush…right?”
But they only have to do one thing to turn that around, peabrain. Impeach Bush or better yet send to the ICC.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmThis is cool as long as I can take one free commute, if I was ever to be convicted of a Felony.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmBill Clinton did it too.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmUPDATE: Only 21-percent favor a pardon.
They are composed of:
1) The actual REAL percentage ( 21% ) that still supports The Bush / Cheney Crime Family.
a) 10 percent consists of corporate criminal ceo’s aligned with the Bush /Cheney Crime Family that operate in the United States.
b) 10 percent are employees and cronys of the corporate criminal ceo’s aligned with the Bush /Cheney Crime Family that operate in the United States.
c) 1% are the very lost and mislead Fox News viewers.
That will just about do it for the Republican Party in 2008.
The people of this Country now know.
Our Country IS run by an elite mafia crime family. The RNC.
“He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.”
“He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.”
Time for Congress to RE-Read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html
July 4th, 2007.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pm#314
Never said he was convicted.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmAll trolls who support this decision, in my humble opinion, are now part of the party that has thrown off law and order.
The Republicans have a traditional platform of the being the tough on crime party. That is gone. They have also been the party of fiscal conservatism. They are hypocrites on both counts!!!
Now lets get to the election. MASSIVE SWEEPS IN ‘08!!!!
Democratic President, and two thirds majority in the house and the Senate.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmI guess I gave him too much credit.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Ummmm… you just provided a link that showed ForTruth admitting it was an Islamo-Stalinist…
Why would I apologize?
Comment by Mr. President
Zooey, the only way to deal with this particular troll is to ignore him. He takes any recognition as positive reinforcement. And his name calling is obscene.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmLastly, CT_V1, Dean of Trolls-
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmYou cannot point to a commuted sentence by a president can you?
Woohoooo! Impeach and war crimes trial coming right up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmIf Bush had pardoned Libby, Libby would not have been able to take the 5th if called by Henry Waxman. That’s why Bush commuted his sentence instead. In this way, Bush is guilty of obstruction of justice because he is helping to obstruct investigations into his own behavior.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pm#270
First, explain to me why Conyers and Schumer weren’t so outraged on Jan. 21, 2001, after Pardongate.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmImpeach the bastard already.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmbullshit – total bullshit. Impeach the bastards NOW!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmThis administration has no accountability.
They are a rogue state!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pmI guess OJ Simpson could use a new golf caddy
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 pmconsequences:
1. justice dept. … naaaaah… gonzo? … yea, right…
2. (state dept?) police… get them under arrest and removed
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 pmfrom our white house…
#318
Be specific. Is that too hard for you? Maybe your BS definition of specific is “broad”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 pmCrump
You are dead on. GOP is history. Good ridance!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:23 pmWhat a shocker! This commute caught us all by surprise. Sure! How low can Bush go? We all know he can go as low as he wants to go. Tomorrow, Libby will probably get a job as a CEO with a fat 800 million-dollar paycheck. Why not?
Bush lives at the bottom of the barrel and all of the produce down there is pretty rotten. Let’s just say a good apple is very, very, very, hard to find.
For the Republicans, it’s party time tonight. Get the weenies, pigs in a blanket, coke ( the drink of course, of course ), and celebrate. I bet Wayne Newton is on his way to Washington right now from Vegas. Libby’s first song request?’Danke Schoen’.
EXCESSIVE is the key word. Cough! Cough! I thought 500 American deaths in Iraq were EXCESSIVE. Now we’re at 3,500 deaths. Bush doesn’t utter a peep about that being EXCESSIVE. No! No! No! No! No! No! A 2 1/2-year Libby sentence, though, is EXCESSIVE. Sure, George.
The cost for the Iraq War is probably going to be in EXCESS of a trillion-dollars. Maybe more. When do you think Bush will call that EXCESSIVE? Don’t count on it anytime soon.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmThey will not answer to impeachment. They will invade Iran to distract the public.
They have turned their backs of the rule of law. So sould we.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmClinton did it too!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmA crook pardoning a crook. This only hurts Bush. It doesn’t help him. It only makes it look more and more like a cover-up—which it is.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pmImpeach Cheney, Bush, Gonzo NOW. Call your leaders. Send faxes and emails. And write letters, we need to flood the mailboxes.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:25 pmImpeach?
Why?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:26 pmSeriously, is there a precedent for a sitting president commuting the sentence of someone who, until convicted, was a member of his extended staff…a subordinate?
This is beyond outrageous.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:27 pmWhat’s sad is that his approval rating may not even go down.
All he has left are the toothless banjo players from the deep south!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:27 pmKen Starr and 24 million dollars. You folks who think that Clinton did it to????
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 pm24 million dollars was spent on the “prosecution” (a campaign) that lasted over 4 years to get at Clinton.
McDougal? Rich ? Give me a break. Yeah, oh yeah, they were involved in outing a CIA agent, or knew something about it? They were treasonous?
Any apologies to Valerie Wilson? I am so ashamed of my government.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 pm“…clinically incapable…” – edwards statement
.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 pmhe actually said this on Day 1 years ago for the world to see:
“If there’s a leak out of my administration, I wanna know who it is. If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.” — your president…. “Taken care of,” indeed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pm“Yeah Hi Ms. Pelosi, oh you are a staffer? Ok tell Ms. Pelosi to impeach please. Thanks.”
Contacting Congresspeople is a joke.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pm#43, Tracy, if Congress’ approval rating is lower than Bush’s—that DOES NOT mean that Pelosi’s and Reid’s ratings are lower than Bush’s. You don’t have much reasoning ability. Also, seperately, the results could mean that the American people are to the LEFT of the Democratic leadership in Congress.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pmMr. Leftcoast,
The actions and credibility of the Judge and Prosecutor, I am not challenging. Libby is a guilty man, and the Judge handed out the lightest prison term possible, if I am correct. Their judgement was fine, but the President apparently felt that his sentence should have departed from sentencing guidelines. That was his course of action taken, I see it to be the best judgment.
Again, nothing against the Judge, Jury, or Prosecutor(s). Libby will still pay substantially. The justice system is NOT compromised, contrary to the raging media and the Democratic political-hacking statements from the Reid/Pelosi gang.
Good blessings.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:29 pmImpeachment is too good for them.
we should kill them. All of them
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmNor are commutation requests generally accepted from persons who are presently challenging their convictions or sentences through appeal or other court proceeding.
Comment by Tom
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmYep, you’re right. But, that’s what happened today.
m12: “First, explain to me why Conyers and Schumer weren’t so outraged on Jan. 21, 2001, after Pardongate.”
#1. Both knew that the previous president had made much more questionable pardons – indicted co-conpirators, illegal campaign contributors, an international terrorist and a heroin smuggler.
#2. Both knew that Clinton pardoned Rich because of a personal request by the Prime Minister of Israel.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmIt sucks that even toothless banjo players can participate in phone surveys now.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 pmUPDATE VI: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV): “The President’s decision to commute Mr. Libby’s sentence is disgraceful. Libby’s conviction was the one faint glimmer of accountability for White House efforts to manipulate intelligence and silence critics of the Iraq War. Now, even that small bit of justice has been undone.â€
Maybe the Senator got my scathing email. Goddamnit Harry, go get ‘em! For real this time, please.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 pm#18 – this is the last straw
That camel has been dead a long time. Time to bury it. That stink is decomposed credibility.
So when’s that attack on Iran coming? I can’t wait for more Bozo the Clown action, the only thing missing on the books is a fat death count.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 pmgotta laugh everytime I hear an American soldier say ‘I am serving my country’ NOPE, you are serving TRAITORS BWAhahahahahahahahahah,suckers…. and the Bush Admin. is saying the same amongst themselves behind closed doors
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 pmwe should kill them. All of them
Comment by willyloman — July 2, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
Don’t you know that two wrongs don’t make a right?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmRight before July 4th Weekend.
How funny is that?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmAgain, nothing against the Judge, Jury, or Prosecutor(s). Libby will still pay substantially. The justice system is NOT compromised, contrary to the raging media and the Democratic political-hacking statements from the Reid/Pelosi gang.
Good blessings.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmGood blessings to you. We will agree to disagree?
bush’s CIA. Corruption – Incompentence – Arrogance.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmThat will just about do it for the Republican Party in 2008.
What a Legacy.
The family that destroyed the Republican party.
George W. Bush, President 2004-2008
George W. Bush, President 2000-2004
George H. Bush, Vice President 1980-1984
George H. Bush, Vice President 1984-1988
George H. Bush, President 1988-1992
Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 pmIndeed.
Theres really nothing anyone can do, other than push for impeachment.
The President does have the power to commute a sentence, ( I checked) and it has been before. Most of us, myself included, probably thought Patty Hearst got a pardon, but I just checked, and her sentence was actually only commuted by President Carter, and then later she received a pardon from Clinton.
Also Calvin Coolidge and Warren Harding both commuted sentences.
We lost this one.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:34 pmMr. Leftcoast,
It’s not relevant if this is the President’s only commutation. You are nit-picking for political reasons, attempting a spin-job that isn’t fair. There is a first time for everything and the President has his RIGHT to judgment.
At least it wasn’t a pardon, so cheer up. Again, this doesn’t compromise the justice system. Please take off the hate-blinders of Bush for a minute and see this through.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:34 pmCarter also commuted the sentence of G Gordon Liddy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmHarry Reid is a big p*ssy. He talks like he’s gonna do something. Like Specter, the criminal remnant of the Nixon era.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmDon’t you know that two wrongs don’t make a right?
Comment by Mr. President
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pm#381
The cost for the Iraq War is probably going to be in EXCESS of a trillion-dollars.
Comment by John Gilpins
No, 18 months ago the excellent study by Joseph Stiglitz and Bilmes said the true cost would be about $2.3 Trillion. They have since said that is too low since they assumed war was winding down and it has worsened.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,5369059-103550,00.html
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmImpeach both the sons of bitches.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmHe will be pardoned when Bush leaves office. This was done just to keep him out of prison and away from Tyrone. Time to impeach all of the bastards.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmLibby was a VERY good soldier. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if Bush rewarded him with making his a US Attorney or maybe how about a Supreme Court Justice!!
Comment by JG — July 2, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
Libby is a convicted felon, so unless Chimpy actually pardons him he will be disbarred — US Attorney or SCOTUS job for him!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmM12, now maybe YOU can explain why Clinton’s pardon was called “PARDONGATE” for one questionable pardon while our “liberal media” completely ignored the very outrageous pardons of the President before him. The NYT published 17 separate articles about the Rich pardon and a grand total of 1 article about the elder Bush’s pardons. Does that sound like “liberal media” to you?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmComment by Jessica — July 2, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
By removing Libby’s jail term from his sentence, President Bush once again demonstrates his lack of respect for the American system of law and Democracy as a whole… It is vital that we hold on our political leaders accountable for their actions.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
STOOOOOOOP! Yer killin me!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmSome Troll cretin:
> Libby will still pay substantially.
Hey, you can contribute. 1-800-GIVE-LIBBY
I laugh at your utter naivete. He will pay like you pay for an unfilled lottery ticket.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmI think it is long past time for more than letters and phone calls. I think there needs to be MASSIVE coordinated marches in MANY cities across the country – with enormous walkouts of all workplaces. That is what gets their attention, when you do something to disrupt the money flowing into the coffers. It will take people getting mad enough to stay home from work. Letters and calls are good, but Congress isn’t willing to DO anything to hold these turkeys accountable!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmIs Bush corrupt? Absolutely.
Did Libby lie to cover up for Cheney? Without a doubt.
But everyones hands are tied when the Commander in Chief is corrupt.
Bush will misuse his power until congress curtails it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pm“Please take off the hate-blinders of Bush for a minute and see this through.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007″
real heady advice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmScooter committed the same crime Clinton was impeached for. Fifty GOP senators voted to impeach Clinton who was elected and re-elected but the GOP sees it as a non-issue for their own thugs in their own crime family. The GOP is so over.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmOh yeah, so Libby will have to pay 250,000 of which will likely not be any of his personal funds.
And he can’t move into lots of apartments, and can’t get lots of minimum wage jobs.
Oooooh he’s so busted.
And when everyone calms down and forgets, Bush will pardon him anyway.
Yeah sure, he’s gonna pay dearly.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmUPDATE #2: More statements from Dem. leadership: Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rep. John Conyers, Rep. Louise Slaughter, and Sen. Chris Dodd:
“By commuting Scooter Libby’s sentence, the President continues to abdicate responsibility for the actions of his Administration. The only ones paying the price for this Administration’s actions are the American people.â€
Still waiting for the Presidential apology to Valerie Plame Wilson for his Administration betraying her cover and her work on Iranian WMDs, among other important national security investigations. Not exactly holding my breath for it, though…
UPDATE #3: Statement from former Sen. John Edwards:
“Only a president clinically incapable of understanding that mistakes have consequences could take the action he did today. President Bush has just sent exactly the wrong signal to the country and the world. In George Bush’s America, it is apparently okay to misuse intelligence for political gain, mislead prosecutors and lie to the FBI. George Bush and his cronies think they are above the law and the rest of us live with the consequences. The cause of equal justice in America took a serious blow today.â€
http://www.firedoglake.com/
The White House has turned off their phone lines.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmimagine that…
This is much better than a president pardoning of someone for tax evasion and illegally doing business with Iran.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmYou’ll have something to celebrate on the next thread, Zooey, so don’t worry. You’re a good person and a good mother. You should be ultra-proud of yourself.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmI guess now that Scotter is skipping out on jail, he’ll do what most conservative convicted felons do best — host a talk show radio show!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmTo all who would say, “there is nothing else we can do”……
remember this?….
” That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmNow it’s time for congress to talk impeachment. If Pelose doesn’t, she should step down and let someone else lead the way because she’s shown no leadership at all in confronting the criminals in the White House and especially that fucking little shit Bush.
Maybe the military should cordon off the White House and then drag Bush and Cheney out in chains into a court of law where they can finally face the law they have so much contempt for.
This pardon of Libby had nothing to do with Bush’s feelings for a loyal partner in crime either but everything to do with shutting Libby up before he went to prison so Libby wouldn’t really talk and implicate that whole stinking steaming pile that occupys the White House.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmDon’t you know that two wrongs don’t make a right?
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
How hypocritical is it possible for you people to get?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmYou’ll have something to celebrate on the next thread, Zooey, so don’t worry. You’re a good person and a good mother. You should be ultra-proud of yourself.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Thank you CT, I’ve always known that about myself.
You don’t mind if I celebrate now, do you? :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmComment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
***Four (4)*** counts of p-e-r-j-u-r-y, for the mentally arrested like yourself, that is lying under oath to a grand jury; And o-b-s-s-t-r-u-c-t-i-o-n o-f j-u-s-t-i-c-e, again, for a special ed redneck like yourself, that’s blocking justice from being exacted on very serious criminals trying to cover up the reasons why they sent our American soldiers to fight, and get maimed and die, in the shithole known commonly as Shrub’s Iraq. So your description ‘…crimes for a man of his character absolutely do not merit any prison time’, that is some high standard for character you’re setting there. Convicted on FOUR counts of perjury and obstruction of justice. Boy, wow, I can only imagine what you would consider poor character. Isn’t it amazing what a sucker you are?
As far as your s-y-c-o-p-h-a-n-t-i-c advice to appeal to your pathetic excuse for a ‘daddy figure’ to fix things, I’ll be busy appealing to a higher and coherent power to serve justice, that being the impeachment provisions in the constitution, you ignorant troglodyte. Now run off and get back to licking Rush’s chocolate salted balls.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:42 pmPeople in the American intelligence community can’t be happy about a BushCo not having their back. Bet it turns a few.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:43 pm†That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.â€
Comment by willyloman
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:44 pmTreasonous! That’s what those signers were about. Oh, yeah, the Declaration of the Independence”. How appropriate at this week.
May we all remember the step they took for our freedom today. A freedom that requires accountability. A freedom that requires our responsibility to hold government accountable.
Scooter Libby just got the rest of his life handed to him.
THat idiot Kelly Odonnel sat there and talked about how he has to pay a 250,000 dollar fine (his friends already raised 10 times that amount to cover it) or how he’ll lose his law license for being a convicted felon (did anyone think Libby was going to hang out a shingle after being Chief of Staff ot the Vice President of the United States?), but its all crap.
Libby is now famous, and will spend the rest of his life speaking and writing books.
Had it not been for this trial, he’d have slipped into obscurity, like he was before his trial. But thanks to this conviction, and Bush, he won’t pay a cent, won’t lose a cent, won’t spend a day in jail, and willl make a mint off of book deals and speaking engagments for the rest of his life.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:44 pmVery curious that so called “conservative” posters here would gloat about what happened today. Don’t Republicans brag about how they are pro-military, pro-CIA and the most-hawkish against terrorism? Then why on earth would you think it’s OK to out a CIA agent and that the sentence should be commuted in advance? Your bragging rights are officially rescinded. Libby didn’t lie under oath. He committed treason, people. And one day, after Mr. Cheney has had his coronary and is buried, we will eventually all read how he (Libby’s direct boss) was complicit in this treason. The idea that this is “payback for what Clinton did” is nothing but unsportmanlike conduct by the red team. With Bush’s notice today a piece of American law and order died today. Regardless of your party colors, this was a bad day for the country. A very bad day.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:44 pmComment by JoeySoCal
Who taught you that a paragraph of sloppy talking-points was a somehow a coherent argument?
You’re a skipper. Scrollin’ right through….
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmi think the boy may have just dug his hole…
he is definitely in impeachment territory…
this is the opportunity the congress needs…
let them know we approve of them asserting
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmtheir constitutional duties… show that spine…
go for it – we got their backs.
.
From a few days ago:
Today is the summer solstice,
the day of greatest light.
For the next 6 months, darkness will grow,
both in the amount of night time,
and upon the face of the land.
Those who walk in darkness will grow in power,
and a great shadow will reach across the earth;
may they achieve all they set out to do.
The mutual annihilation of those who harbor hate is about to unfold,
exponentially.
Since Impeachment is off the table, the only course of action which will lead to balance is for the NeoConservative movement to achieve its goals. Only through their destruction of this country can this country hope to rebuild. Witness the fools writing on this thread, gleefully embracing the freedom of a criminal. Are they not unlike those who called for the release of a thief and the cruxifixion of the son of a carpenter?
The analogy is closer than they would care to admit, for they are rejoicing the freedom of one who was convicted of lying, of hiding the truth, of keeping truth from the light. In doing so, they rejoice in the murder of truth and rejoice living in darkness.
May they live, and die, in darkness.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmcharges against King George;
“He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:45 pmRe #420 ” think it is long past time for more than letters and phone calls. I think there needs to be MASSIVE coordinated marches in MANY cities across the country – with enormous walkouts of all workplaces. That is what gets their attention, when you do something to disrupt the money flowing into the coffers. It will take people getting mad enough to stay home from work. Letters and calls are good, but Congress isn’t willing to DO anything to hold these turkeys accountable!”
Let’s get this started now.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:46 pmTroll: “Please take off the hate-blinders of Bush for a minute and see this through”
You need to get something through your thick mellon. IF people hate Bush, it’s because he has been the worst president in history. He’s lied to us. He’s obstructed things the majority of us want. He’s shown no respect for the law or constitutional institutions. He’s ruined our reputation in the world. He’s destroyed agreements between us and our allies. He sat there reading a childrens book while thousands of us burned to death. He allowed the worst terrorist attack to happen on his watch and then lied us into a horrible shooting war which has broken our military. He’s destroying the environment. And, his policies have resulted in more poverty, more abortions, more crime and more misery for a large number of Americans.
Just stop acting like there is no rational reason to hate or dislike Bush and his administration. This tired old “you just hate the man” rhetoric is just pathetic. Get into the real world and understand — there are legitimate reasons to hate the man.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:47 pmJust another in a long line of hits from “The Decider.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:47 pmWhen we win back the country completely from these Republican criminals, and restore the Constitution as the rule of law for ALL Americans, you will hear the rally call “Remember Libby” ringing from voter booths and political meeting halls across the country.
Justice will be served one day. We WILL have the last laugh.
This July 4th when we celebrate the birth of this great nation, remember the sacrifice our forefathers made to free themselves from an unjust King. Honor them by continuing their struggle.
God Bless America
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:48 pmIs this really news? I’m not sure why you guys are making such a big deal about it. Only the Communist News Network is covering it right now. Probably just cause they are just sore losers. Fox News is covering important topics.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:48 pmKaty,
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pmImpeachment will not happen unless Pelosi gets off her butt.
I just don’t think she has the fight in her.
And where is Fitzgerald today? He should be pissed. In fact he should be saying that “Administration is beyond the law”. But, he won’t. He’s bucking for a Supreme Court job.
This is what happens when Jr. is not allowed to drive the boat and play Skipper. “I’ll show U Daddy”
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pmThe thing is, this clemency might be the straw that broke the camels back.
Officals and congressmen seeing Bush commute Libby’s sentence for something that he, or his Veep, were likely part of, could help pave the way for hearings.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pm“During his tenure as Halliburton CEO, Cheney made speeches denouncing the very sanctions on Iran that Rich was prosecuted for violating.
The whole subject of presidential pardons is a touchy one for the Bush family. Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich is a squalid affair, but it pales by comparison, as an act of presidential malfeasance, with the pardons issued by President George Herbert Walker Bush in December 1992 to five of the principal figures in the Iran-Contra affair. The pardon of former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger was a particularly flagrant case of politically motivated abuse of power.
Weinberger had lied to special prosecutor Laurence Walsh, concealing for years his contemporaneous notes of White House discussions on the secret arms sales to Iran and the illegal war against Nicaragua. Weinberger’s notebooks were eventually uncovered by investigators for Walsh, and the former Pentagon chief was about to go on trial for perjury and cover-up.
Walsh hoped that a conviction would induce Weinberger to testify against President Bush, who as vice president had famously claimed to be “out of the loop†where Iran-Contra was concerned. Weinberger’s notebooks reportedly contained material contradicting Bush’s denials of involvement in the illegal Iran-Contra operations.
Thus by pardoning Weinberger, Bush not only let a crony go scot free, he immunized against prosecution a potential witness against himself. This crude judicial “fix†was given far less examination by the media than the Clinton pardon of Marc Rich, and was quickly buried.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:51 pmComment by TheCrapture — July 2, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
Right-wingers, what are you cheering about??? A jury CONVICTED this crminal of obstructing the case of a CIA operative being outed. They convicted him for repeatedly LYING so the truth could not be discovered. Plame was the top expert on Iraq’s nuclear proliferation. She devoted her life to keeping us safe.
Actually, I accused nobody of such a crime. Because no such crime was committed. Plame was not undercover, because if she was, then it would have been a crime. Besides, let’s be real–the only thing she and her husband dedicated their lives to is self-promotion. And they are both lying skunks–I know that. That’s another reason this lame case fizzled, and had about as much legitimacy as the bogus Duke rape case.
But at least the wacko, deviant Left considers me a hero!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pmKeith G- Thank you, Thank you!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pm“Is this really news? I’m not sure why you guys are making such a big deal about it. Only the Communist News Network is covering it right now. Probably just cause they are just sore losers. Fox News is covering important topics.”
What like the ever-increasing bear epidemic or the War on the Fourth of July? And if I was the propaganda arm of the RNC, I probably wouldn’t be covering this either.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pm>> Impeachment will not happen unless Pelosi gets off her butt.
Jesus H. Christ. Sent here an “Anal Raptor” or something! It really is time!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:54 pmPeople left-of-center like Barney Frank and Russ Feingold denounced Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:55 pmPatrick Fitzgerald
“Plame was not undercover, because if she was, then it would have been a crime.”
I’M SICK OF THIS LIE!!!! SHE WAS UNDERCOVER!!! THE CIA HAS SAID SO!!!
On March 8, 2007, two days after the verdict in the Libby trial, Congressman Henry Waxman, chair of the U.S. House Committee on Government Reform, announced that his committee would ask Valerie E. Wilson to testify on March 16, in an effort by his committee to look into “whether White House officials followed appropriate procedures for safeguarding Plame’s identity.”
On March 16, 2007, at these hearings about the disclosure, Chairman Henry Waxman read a statement about Plame’s CIA career that had been cleared by CIA director Gen. Michael V. Hayden and the CIA:
During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover.
Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak’s column on July 14, 2003, Ms. Wilson’s CIA employment status was covert.
This was classified information.
Ms. Wilson served in senior management positions at the CIA, in which she oversaw the work of other CIA employees, and she attained the level of GS-14, step 6 under the federal pay scale.
Ms. Wilson worked on some of the most sensitive and highly secretive matters handled by the CIA.
Ms. Wilson served at various times overseas for the CIA.
Without discussing the specifics of Ms. Wilson’s classified work, it is accurate to say that she worked on the prevention of the development and use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States.
In her various positions at the CIA, Ms. Wilson faced significant risks to her personal safety and her life.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:56 pmFox News is covering important topics
OMG!! Really?? Since when????? That would be totally newsworthy!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:56 pmBut at least the wacko, deviant Left considers me a hero!
Comment by Patrick Fitzgerald
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmYou’ve not be reading. That’s ok.
I hope you don’t influence to many BBQ guests this 4th.
Oh, don’t forget to say a prayer for Scooter and the other thousands and thousands who have languished in jail for the same thing; lying.
#449. You wouldn’t sound so stupid if you weren’t parroting what the FAUXNOIZ liars have been saying and would start reading what really happened in court. Plame was under cover. You should be able to verify that easily. There was a crime cimmitted but they lied and obstructed justice so the prosecutor could not nail the case. Go read and become better educated or go agree with the other liars who want to remain in denial. You guys are completely ignorant.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmPlame was most definitely undercover. She made a point of swearing under oath over and over that she was.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmJUST US is served on a silver platter and from a silver spoon. F*CK the neoconRIGHT.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 pmJoe Wilson and Valerie Plame are the kind of analysts and agents who report fact, which was in direct contradiction to the White House’s requirements.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 pmDidn’t Bill Clinton do the same thing?
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:59 pmIt’s time to hit the streets with highway signs.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:01 pmMore than 70% of Americans did not want a Libby pardon.
DON’T IMPEACH. SENTENCE THEM TO DEATH.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmPlame was most definitely undercover. She made a point of swearing under oath over and over that she was.
Comment by Keith G. — July 2, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
Really? Well, that would be consistent with what Michael Hayden, CIA Director, told Congress in writing, and what Patrick Fitzgerald stated in federal court proceedings and press conferences. Do you have a problem with that?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa……..
Get over it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmDidn’t Bill Clinton do the same thing?
Comment by Mr. President
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmThis isn’t Mr. P.
He’s watched the blog. This is not his tactic. But whoever you are nice try.
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by Tom
Well, since Sandy Berger got a VERY light sentence for mishandling classified information, it is fitting that Scooter had his sentence commuted.
Comment by JschmoAZ
I, Sandy Burglar, got NO sentence for STEALING AND DESTROYING CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY DOCUMENTS. I got a slap on the wrist: A minor fine and the revocation of my security clearance for a whole 3 years.
And I never even had to come clean about what criminality I covered up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmFox “news” is covering those important stories like missing white women, Paris Hilton, and whipping up fear of brown people blowing shit up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmCrump’s Brother,
“Now let’s get to the election.”
I can hardly wait to have my vote stolen or not counted. Apparently, in many parts of the country, voting is an exercise in futility. We don’t have a democracy if we can’t rely on the election process.
Watergate pales in comparison to the crimes of this administration. Why is Bush still in office? Something is not only rotten in Denmark, but it’s also rotten in Washington. Strings are being pulled somewhere.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:03 pmVerbalKint,
We agree!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:04 pmPlame was most definitely undercover. She made a point of swearing under oath over and over that she was.
Comment by Keith G. — July 2, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
LMAO. Yeah, and Bill swore over and over he wasn’t alone with that woman, didn’t have sex with her and wasn’t sure of the meaning of the word ‘is’.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:05 pmTAke the Fall Scooter, Nuthin Bad is gonna happen to ya, you got my word..unless you fail to keep yer mouth shut. I made this converstion up.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:06 pmmonica, you are wrong on 3 out of 3
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 pmFUTITA!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 pmI, Sandy Burglar, got NO sentence for STEALING AND DESTROYING CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY DOCUMENTS. I got a slap on the wrist: A minor fine and the revocation of my security clearance for a whole 3 years.
And I never even had to come clean about what criminality I covered up.
Comment by Sandy Burglar — July 2, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Those were xerox copies – not documents – dum bass. You’re a st*pid little b!tch – aren’t you troll?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:08 pmRight before July 4th Weekend.
How funny is that?
Comment by willyloman
God Used to Bless the F*cking USA!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:08 pmBut, but, Clinton had a Christmas card list.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:11 pmDead(?) and compromised American spys
VS.
a stained dress
Haahahhaahahahahaha, no wonder these idiots can’t beat a small country
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 pm>>> I, Sandy Burglar,…
Who the F*CK is talking about Sandy F*CKING Berger at all? What has this to do with anything? This is not a Zero-Sum game.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:14 pmSTOOOOOOOP! Yer killin me!!!!!
Comment by Bill Clinton
Look President Clinton is now Bill Clinton. Please email TP about the stealing of a Presidential Name. Isn’t against the rules?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:15 pmI hope all republicans celebrate and defend this decision. I am sure there will come a time when a dem is convicted of perjury, obstructing justice, etc., and the republicans are just setting up the precedent so he/she can go free. What would they say if William Jefferson was convicted, then had his sentence commuted? What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:16 pmAnyone who is outraged by this should call their Senators and Reps and demand impeachment for Cheny & Bush!
Even if impeachment is unsucessful it still needs to be brought against these criminals as a warning to any future (Vice) Presidents that they cannot ignore the constitution and rule of law!
Let the Good People of America rise up and take back our (once great) country, from those who would run it into the ground!
If we sit back now, and do nothing, future generations will ask us:
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:17 pm” What did you do to stop them from destroying America?”
But, but, Clinton had a Christmas card list.
Comment by stoopidfingtroll — July 2, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Yeah, and one time he mixed his colors with his whites while doing laundry.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:17 pmAll you neocon Nazis talking about Clinton’s pardon, but don’t mention pardons by Republican president. Especially the big one, Gerald Ford’s pardon of Richard Nixon. Feel free to discuss that one you traitors.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmThank you republican party, sincerely. You are now guaranteeing a dem majority for the next several years. We greatly appreciate this gift.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmIt’s our own bootstraps for ‘we the people’. The Neocons pull each other up by the brastraps. Cowardly Fems
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 pmScooter Libby has just changed from a prisoner to an Issue.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 pmComment by John Gilpins — July 2, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
I can hardly wait to have my vote stolen or not counted.
Oh, you’re one of those voters who didn’t realize you can’t vote for two different people for president on the same ballot?
Apparently, in many parts of the country, voting is an exercise in futility. We don’t have a democracy if we can’t rely on the election process.
Which is why you support voter IDs, right?
Watergate pales in comparison to the crimes of this administration.
You do know that pardons are a presidential prerogative, right? That there’s nothing illegal, or even unethical, in what he did? I mean, it’s not like he pardoned terrorists, fugitives, political donors, criminal accomplices, cronies, etc. I mean, you do see the difference, right?
Why is Bush still in office?
Because his turn isn’t up for another year and a half. Why is Sandy Burglar not in prison?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 pmOf course, thanks to the republican party, we no longer need to worry about any dem scandals. After 2009 any US Attorney who even thinks of investigating a democrat will be instantly fired. This precedent is another wonderful gift from the republicans. Be careful what you ask for repubs, you just might get it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:22 pmYeah, and one time he mixed his colors with his whites while doing laundry.
Comment by Zooey
Too bad he didn’t throw in the blue dress.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:22 pmno prison….Joy… my sphincter is slowly relaxing
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Bush on the other hand lies about matters of state, and the right wing scum cheers.
Are these lies about matters of state to which you refer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pmI just thought of Patrick Fitzgerald.
All of his hard work. All of his investigations. His intellect.
His commitment to the truth.
Justice.
Honesty.
I feel really badly for him tonight.
Sorry it’s kinda OT.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:26 pmToo bad he didn’t throw in the blue dress.
Comment by stoopidfingtroll — July 2, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
It was Monica’s souvenier!
Since the trolls are running out of Clinton things, we should think of more terrible things he’s done.
One time, I heard Clinton put carrots in the soup without peeling them.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:26 pmThey won this round, but this one just might come back to bite them in the ass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmWhich sits on top of their shoulder blades.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmGO BUSH!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmAnd liberty and justice for some…
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmThis should be a major part of all republicans campaigns. I hope McCain, Rudy G, Thompson, Romney, etc. let the public know what they stand for. Perjury and obstruction of justice aren’t real crimes. We need to bomb Iran. America should stay in Iraq for the next 50 years. The DOJ is a political arm of the White House. Torture is good. Please campaign on this platform. The dems will have a full majority for the next century!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmSorry it’s kinda OT.
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Don’t be blue truey bluey! It will all work out in the end, you’ll see!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmI wonder if Gerald Fitzpatrick?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:29 pm#444- muckracker,
[....Is this really news? I"m not sure why you guys are making such a big deal about it. ].
Why are you then wasting your time here. Go find you another website that does not care for such issues or news ? !!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmBefore anybody else does can we get any/all comparisions of the unpeeled carrot to anything else out of the way quickly. It’s childish…
nobody likes “cigar soup”
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmBush did this to secure his base, not becsause he gives a crap about Libby.
But he may have maxed out his account on this one.
This one, makes him a potential accomplice to the original crime, and its going to raise some serious eyebrows in the justice dept and elsewhere.
Bush might have just signed his own impeachment order.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmOnce again the American majority gets the FU finger, I’m the king and do what I want treatment. It is absolutely shameful that this ass is called the president of this country. May the next year-and-a-half pass quickly so we can close the book on this mistaken history.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmGO BUSH!!!
Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Yes. Please, just go.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmSince W has never commuted a death penalty, perhaps the judge was too lenient.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmZooey,
I’m spitting mad and also sad.
Why do they get away with this?
I remember watching the news of Nixon’s resignation and seeing thousands upon thousands dancing in the streets. (Granted, I was just a wee child then, but I do recall a lot of glee.)
Where is the fire that America had then?
Where is the optimism we once had?
This is so disheartening.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmBush might have just signed his own impeachment order.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
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I wish, but I don’t think that is going to happen. However, this decision just drove more republicans away, created more voter apathy that will favor the dems, and helped tremendously with moving the critical swing vote to the left. I look at this decision as a gift from the republican party. Not that the dems really needed the help, but it’s still nice.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmClinton DID allow his lustfull proclivities to get the better of him…and got caught doing it….thereby allowing the republicans an opening to overcome 8 years of peace and prosperity, and install George W. in the white house. He has since sincerely apologized…but I’m still p*ssed at him for being so reckless.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmTake heart True Blue.
Winning this little battle just might cost them the war.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmDisappointing but not shocking nor surprising
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:37 pm#
Disappointing but not shocking nor surprising
Comment by YouCantHandleDaTruth — July 2, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
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Agreed. Even expected.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:37 pmLiving in an autocracy is so darn cool. You just trust the leader and everything works out fine. They fight evil so I can masturbate to photos of Jonah Goldberg. Why is everyone so angry? Do you love Terrorists?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:38 pm“I respect the jury’s verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby’s sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison.”
Then explain how you feel about the harsh sentencing of former Governor Don Siegelman (D-AL) after your favorite piglet, known to us as Rove, did a hatchet job on the man.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1627427,00.html?xid=rss-nation
Now the man is sentenced to over seven years in prison and has to pay a fine of $500,000.00
All because he was in your and Rove’s way during an election.
http://harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000402
No doubt your sycophantic boot-lickers will grovel all day to defend your mockery of American justice and the death of America.
Today’s Republican… the only thing that separates them from Al Qaeda is the name of the god they declare to worship… The Republicans worship mammon.
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July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmDo you love Terrorists?
Comment by temperance — July 2, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
No.
We do not love Bush.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by BrianS — July 2, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
We are no longer a nation of laws. If you are high ranking politically, you are above the law.
Yeah, but don’t worry–someday, Kennedy, Clinton, Sandy Burglar, McDermott, Clinton, Sharpton, John Edwards, Jesse Hijackson, Feinstein, Frank, Hastings, John Conyers, William Jefferson, Marion Barry, unions, trial lawyers, et al will have to answer for their despicable crimes.
We no longer exist as a nation ruled by the Constitution and law
Well, not after what the left has done to the Constitution, anyway. Is there anything left of the Bill of Rights after the trashing the left has given it over the last couple decades?
The time has come to IMPEACH President Bush and Vice President Cheney. We cannot progress on any other area until this is done.
We’ll progress just fine.
As far as the so-called impeachable offenses he committed, remind me again what they are?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmWas Libby’s 2 1/2 year sentence excessive? [See comparable Watergate sentences here, along with Bush's statement of reasons for today's interference in the process.]
Comparing the price of fines (adjusted for inflation) between 1974 and 2007 ($45,000/$250,000), Libby seems to be getting off cheaply, but I think it’s fair to conclude that no matter what it had been, the secret fund set up for Libby (see Barbara Comstock) would have had enough to cover it.
All those convicted during Watergate who were attorneys lost their licenses to practice, and should Libby fail to prevail on appeal, he will lose his license, too.
Unless, on his way out of town in 2009, Bush grants Libby a full pardon, in addition to this interim stop-gap measure to keep Libby out of prison. (I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a pardon for Libby on January 19, 2009, given Bush’s visit with his father at Kennebunkport this past weekend and Dad’s own history of preventing investigations with pardons.)
There is, however, nothing to prevent a prosecutor in the future, in the next administration, from opening up a new investigation. Should a new investigation uncover evidence of a conspiracy, Libby, et al, could face a whole new set of charges. What will Bush-Cheney and Republicans do to make sure that doesn’t happen?
Impeachment may be the only way that Democrats take the White House in 2008.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pmThank you, BARTLEBEE,
It just may cause them the war, but they have stolen so many battles that I’m feeling like “Dolly” in the Land of Misfit Toys.
“I don’t have any dreams left.” (tear)
Thanks for the pick-me-up. (maybe one last dream…)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:45 pmWell so much for that you do the crime you pay the time canard all the righties like to spew, I guess if you a favorite of the president, it is okay to break the law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:45 pmGee, what should I worry about, a few burning cars in Europe or the burning Constitution.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:46 pmComment by TheCrapture — July 2, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Libby helped expose a CIA agent which put anyone who worked with her at risk. That’s FAR worse than lying about a private consentual affair, and you know that!
Plame wasn’t an uncover agent as defined under the statute. That’s why no charges were ever brought in that regard.
Keep cheering right-wingers. It just PROVES what SUBHUMANS you are, and how much hatred you have for the American political system, American legal system, and the US Constitution. You betray our country with a smile on your greedy, slimey faces.
Right-wingers aren’t the ones who defended a rapist and serial sexual assaulter.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmUPDATE VII: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): “The President’s commutation of Scooter Libby’s prison sentence does not serve justice, condones criminal conduct, and is a betrayal of trust of the American people.â€
Yo Nance,
Leaving impeachment off the table is a betrayal of trust of the American people, and condones criminal behavior.
Just sayin’
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmI’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this. (I couldn’t wade through all of the attempts at infuriation and mostly ineffectual comments.)
But in addition to:
Two years probation
$250,000 in fines
and felony conviction removing (temporarily?) voting rights
I believe another important, and unfortunate, difference between a pardon and a commuted sentence is admission of guilt. To accept a pardon Libby would be admitting guilt. As well, to offer a pardon Bush would have been implying guilt. That is what made Ford’s pardon of Nixon so important.
So this is no victory for the left, or even more sadly for America. This was far from a middle of the road move by Bush. This was as much as he could abuse his powers without anyone ever having to admit to anything. Yet again!
Write all congressmen and congresswomen. Write your state congress. Talk to your family, friends and neighbors. March in the streets. Get these people out of our government forever!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 pmI remember watching the news of Nixon’s resignation and seeing thousands upon thousands dancing in the streets. (Granted, I was just a wee child then, but I do recall a lot of glee.)
Where is the fire that America had then?
Where is the optimism we once had?
This is so disheartening.
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
I heard this somewhere:
All is well, and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well.
We should be dancing in the streets now!! :-)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:51 pmOMG! Keith Olbermann is doing a Special Comment tomorrow night calling on the Pres and VP to resign!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:53 pmPres. Bush was tonight’s “Worst Person in the World”! And the picture was priceless.. Looked like he was totally shitfaced.
Sorry,.. I should have written ’sh*tfaced’…
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:55 pmAm moving into the kitchen to wash my mouth out with soap..
#523, Zooey,
I’ll have to email you my response.
Not fit for TP!
;)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:55 pmAm moving into the kitchen to wash my mouth out with soap..
Or maybe washing my fingers with soap (I guess..)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmSorry,.. I should have written ’sh*tfaced’…
Am moving into the kitchen to wash my mouth out with soap..
Comment by JG — July 2, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Don’t you dare!! You meant shitfaced, and you said shitfaced! :-D
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmI’ll have to email you my response.
Not fit for TP!
Comment by trueblue — July 2, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Heh. Looking forward to it!!
One time, I heard Clinton ate his dessert before dinner.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmIt’s not really bad, just me bad.
What can I say. I’m a wimp.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmI gotta go pick up miniblue – be back in a few.
Thanks.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmClinton clipped his toenails and didn’t pick up his mess, or put away the clippers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmCrump’s mom,
Oh sure! Yeah! I don’t think so!
Voting for two people? It’s hard to vote for two people, let alone one person, if you can’t get your foot in the door at your voting precinct.
Jewish precincts, in Florida, voting for Pat Buchanan in the 2000 election? Oh sure! Yeah! I don’t think so! I’ll believe that when I see hundreds of thousands of menorah’s in the windows of Arkansas’ mobile homes. Oh sure! Yeah! I don’t think so. I’ll believe that when I see thousands of rainbow flags on cars in the parking lots at Liberty University. Oh sure! Yeah! I don’t think so.
Nice try!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmSenator Reid – I noticed you said that ‘history’ will judge President Bush for this decision. F*** history! Why don’t you judge President Bush for this decision? Are you gambling that he will destroy his party before he destroys the country? You are either criminally negligent or you have the biggest balls of any American alive.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — July 2, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
Because even somebody as dumb as Harry Reid knows that Bush did nothing illegal. Harry also doesn’t want to piss off the justice department into investigating his crooked land deals.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmClinton clipped his toenails and didn’t pick up his mess, or put away the clippers.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
I don’t think he put the toilet seat down either..
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmDamn trueblue!
My monitor is smoking! Heh.
It’s gonna be ok!
Clinton once helped wash windows and left them all streaky.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:06 pmFurther proof, not that any was needed that the rule of law means nothing to the the junta or it’s supporters.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 pmWhy is Keith O. doing this tomorrow night?
Why can’t he do it TONIGHT?
Another 24 hours, with Bush as our leader, is not good news.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmHilarious!
Abolsute hysteria from a bunch of hypocrites who had no problem at all with a massive dump of pardons, handed out at the very last second of Clinton’s presidency, to the most horrendous characters imaginable, including TERRORISTS, for god’s sake. Not to mention fugitives from justice, pals and cronies, those who contributed to his and his wife’s campaigns and other lowlives.
In his six years in office, Bush has done nothing to rival that single, despicable act.
But it’s such GREAT FUN seeing all the loonies on this forum lose their minds!!!
Keep it up–it’s wonderful entertainment!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmUPDATE X: The New York Times editorial board writes, “Presidents have the power to grant clemency and pardons. But in this case, Mr. Bush did not sound like a leader making tough decisions about justice. He sounded like a man worried about what a former loyalist might say when actually staring into a prison cell.â€
I love the smell of flop sweat in the morning — it smells like VICTORY!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmDick Durbin on the Marc Rich Pardon:
It appears that in our investigation of the presidential right to pardon, in looking forward, as Senator Specter suggests, we can only reflect on one president at a time. But if we’re sincere about amending the Constitution or reforming the laws relating to pardons, the committee should not confine its inquiry to one action by one president.
If this hearing is about genuine reform, it should be opened and balanced. It should consider the use of the presidential pardon historically by presidents of both political parties. If it is about a parting shot at former President Clinton, then I have to agree with President George W. Bush, “It’s time to move on.”
Move on, lefties!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmClinton once washed the car and didn’t put away the hose.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:22 pmUPDATE #3: Statement from former Sen. John Edwards:
“Only a president clinically incapable of understanding that mistakes have consequences could take the action he did today. President Bush has just sent exactly the wrong signal to the country and the world. In George Bush’s America, it is apparently okay to misuse intelligence for political gain, mislead prosecutors and lie to the FBI. George Bush and his cronies think they are above the law and the rest of us live with the consequences. The cause of equal justice in America took a serious blow today.â€
Edwards may be a lying, criminal shakedown artist, but he knows exactly what the wacko left in his party wants to hear. And watch them all lap it up like the lemmings they are!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmIf this hearing is about genuine reform, it should be opened and balanced. It should consider the use of the presidential pardon historically by presidents of both political parties. If it is about a parting shot at former President Clinton, then I have to agree with President George W. Bush, “It’s time to move on.â€
Move on, lefties!
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
Rich didn’t risk our national security and coverup the illegal actions of the administration – Libby did.
What it’s time to do, is investigate and start impeachment procedures.
You f*ckers are unworthy to hold public office – Nazi boy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmWhat will I tell the children when they say, “why should I be punished if traitors to my country aren’t?â€â€˜
Comment by worried conservative mommy — July 2, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
You tell them Wilson and Plame will be punished someday.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmScooter Libby was Mar Rich’s attorney…you stupid knuckle dragging troglodytes. Go play on a board with other morons.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:24 pm#550
Waaaaaaaah! Move on, chump!
Don’t you have a website like that?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:25 pmScooter Libby was Mar Rich’s attorney…you stupid knuckle dragging troglodytes. Go play on a board with other morons.
Yeah, so? Attorneys are supposed to fight for their clients.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmThanks Shrub,
Keep pissing on concepts of Truth, Justice, and Liberty.
We’d be SHOCKED if you behaved as if you had ANY morals.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmI see the Acerebralists are out in full force tonight.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmYou tell them Wilson and Plame will be punished someday.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmWhaaaa??? Did I miss something??
Clinton used to hog the monkey bars when he was in grade school.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pm#546
This victory?
Earlier today, I spoke to President Bush, and I offered him and Laura our congratulations on their victory.
We had a good conversation, and we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together.
Today, I hope that we can begin the healing.
In America it is vital that every vote count, and that every vote be counted.
But the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process.
I would not give up this fight if there was a chance we would prevail.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pmClinton owns a tie-dyed tie.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pmClinton writes in the dust on the TV.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Loring_Morison
Samuel L. Morrison, a former American intelligence professional, convicted of espionage and theft of government property in 1985.
Pardoned by President William Jefferson Clinton on Jan. 20, 2001.
A joint investigation by the Naval Investigative Service and the FBI led to Morison, resulting in his arrest on October 1, 1984. A search of Morison’s apartment in Crofton, Maryland, revealed several hundred government documents. Some of the documents were classified. Morison was charged with espionage and theft of government property. On October 17, 1985 and Morison was found guilty in Federal Court of the charges and on December 4 1985, was sentenced to two years in prison.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:31 pmThe White House has turned off their phone lines.
imagine that…
Comment by katy
Katy, does firedoglake have trolls like these because I have had it with their lies and namecalling and namejacking.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:31 pmEarlier today, I spoke to President Bush, and I offered him and Laura our congratulations on their victory.
We had a good conversation, and we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together.
Today, I hope that we can begin the healing.
In America it is vital that every vote count, and that every vote be counted.
But the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process.
I would not give up this fight if there was a chance we would prevail.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
Ummm… Are you on drugs or something?? Been to the dentist? Toked on a little too much laughing gas..?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmClinton once dribbled taco sauce on his best shirt.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmZooey, you’re on a roll! Tell me more…
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pmhttp://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2001/0102/rich0209.jpg
Pardons for sale!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pm#564
Awww, you don’t recognize the speech?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmWhy do all the ignorant, knuckle dragging, troglodyte morons hang out on this board to show their stupidity? Go away trolls, you are a 26% non-entity, supporters of fascist thugs of a crime family and you are so over, it is laughable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmPeople left-of-center like Barney Frank and Russ Feingold denounced Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich.
Comment by Keith G. — July 2, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
LMAO. Is there anybody who is actually willing to defend it?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmZooey, you’re on a roll! Tell me more…
Comment by JG — July 2, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
You go, Girl!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pm“The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged.”
Well of course his reputation is damaged… He’s the one who damaged it! Now we’re supposed to give him a pass???
I have repulsed by the policies of young king george from his first day in office. I am sick, sick sick! And when I’m not sick I’m tired! Please congress, both parties, DO SOMETHING!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmM12 – Sorry, I thought maybe you were ‘channeling’ or something..
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 pmAs far as the so-called impeachable offenses he committed, remind me again what they are?
Comment by Scooter — July 2, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Sure.
Manipulating classified intelligence
Lying to the Congress and the UN to start a war
Corruption
Conspiracy
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 pmClinton’s nominee for Atty General didn’t pay Social Security taxes on her nanny twenty-five years in the past.
The Clinton’s lost a few thousand dollars on a condo deal in Arkansas twenty-five years in the past.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmThose were xerox copies – not documents – dum bass. You’re a st*pid little b!tch – aren’t you troll?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — July 2, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yeah, they were just mere copies that I stole and destroyed!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmWhy is Keith O. doing this tomorrow night?
Why can’t he do it TONIGHT?
Comment by John Gilpins — July 2, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
He still gave Bush notice tonight. He said that Bush is no longer our President. He is only President to the handful of supporters who follow him.
Bush has shown his corruption, and his conspiracy to cover up the outing of a CIA agent, which is a “High Crime”.
Bush has impeached himself.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 pmClinton once let his hair dry after the shower without combing it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmhttp://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmm12,
Honestly, I couldn’t stand Clinton. I thought he was one of the worst presidents we had ever had. I served in the military during his term, and during George W. I hated his position on gun control, and really hated NAFTA. I was gleeful when Clinton was no longer president.
That being said, I would rather have Clinton as president for the next fifty years than to have Bush for one more month. Bush is not just the worst president we have ever had. He is easily the worst leader of ANY country in the world in the last 35 years.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmLibby most likely acted with impunity, because he knew he’d walk scott free.
Or should I say, “scooter free”?
Thats conspiracy to commit obstruction.
Impeachable as an offense as there is.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmWhether its Military service, prison time or telling the truth the extreme Right wets their little flowered panties and runs every time ……wee wee wee all the way home..pussies
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmAs far as the so-called impeachable offenses he committed, remind me again what they are?
Comment by Scooter — July 2, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Let’s see, he diverted about $700,000,000 of money authorized appropriated specifically for the war in Afghanistan, to begin preparations for the invasion of Iraq (an invasion, I’ll remind you, he claimed would “only be a last resort”, but for which he had been intending all along, probably at the insistence of the Veep.)
By his constant and, in quantity, unprecedented use of Signing Statements, he has shown a flagrant intention to NOT “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” That is a direct constitutional violation right there, which brings us to…
“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and that I will to the best of ability preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States.” He has failed to do that.
I agree. Impeach him and his cyborg Veep now (and that little dog, Gonzo, too.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmIs it safe to say that Bush has finally figured out that there is no benefit in attempting to placate liberal fanatics? If they are already calling you the anti-christ or comparing you to hitler; and continually calling for your impeachment (and imprisonment), are you somehow going to make them more upset by pardoning Libby? This site and it’s proponents are entertaining; but impotent.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmClinton picks his teeth with a toothpick when no one is looking.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmIn te Constitution it says that you can Impeach the Seated President
only if he has done something that Presisdent Clinton didn’t do.
“But Mooooommmy! Billy did it tooooooo!”
please understand how stupid the argument is. Our country depends on it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:48 pmComment by Chris L — July 2, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
I hope all republicans celebrate and defend this decision.
Happy Days are here again, the skies above are clear again…!
I am sure there will come a time when a dem is convicted of perjury, obstructing justice, etc.,
Pffff–and I’m sure the sun will rise tomorrow. But at least we agree on something.
What would they say if William Jefferson was convicted, then had his sentence commuted?
We’d say he must’ve had another freezer in his basement.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmClinton puts objects in his ears that are larger than his elbow.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmImpeachable as an offense as there is.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
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I wish I could share in your optimism. However, the only thing that would move a congress to impeach a president would be if the president lied about something that wasn’t a crime. You know, like if he cheated on his wife and lied about it. I guess they see perjury as some tremendous sin. Oh, unless your name is Scooter.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmClinton picks his teeth with a toothpick when no one is looking.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Whew! For a moment there, I was afraid you were going to say he used something else!
(Quasi-related to this one)
Clinton puts objects in his ears that are larger than his elbow.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pmDID ANYONE HERE REALIZE THAT:
BILL CLINTON DID IT TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STALINISM LOSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmWe’d say he must’ve had another freezer in his basement.
Comment by Free Mumia — July 2, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
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Well, at least you admit that Libby’s commutation must have had something to do with money. Again, thanks for the gift.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmWhew! For a moment there, I was afraid you were going to say he used something else!
(Quasi-related to this one)
Clinton puts objects in his ears that are larger than his elbow.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Heh. What have YOU heard about Clinton?
I heard that Clinton really dislikes celery.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmLike I said, the Acerebralists are in full force tonight.
But we’ve got our own favorite, Zooey, and her Magic Bag of Clinton!
You’re doing great. I will try not to interfere anymore. :)
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmI am now officially disgusted by the tin pot “democracy” ( ha ha ha ha) to the south of me. Long live King George!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 pmI heard that Clinton knows the definition of acerebralist.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 pmHowever, the only thing that would move a congress to impeach a president would be if the president lied about something that wasn’t a crime. You know, like if he cheated on his wife and lied about it. I guess they see perjury as some tremendous sin. Oh, unless your name is Scooter.
Not necessarily. But like the dog who cried wolf, lefties whine about impeachment on a daily basis.
Nobody cares.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmHeh. What have YOU heard about Clinton?
I heard that Clinton really dislikes celery.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:54 pm
Well, I haven’t had time to scan all of yours (on all the threads :) ), but I heard that Clinton took up two parking spots once. (Possibly twice.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmI heard that Clinton really dislikes celery.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:54 pm
Actually I think that one belongs to Jeb Bartlett.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 pmComment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
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I love the “Clinton did it too” defense. That’s priceless. If I ever find myself standing before a judge accused of a crime, I’m just going to remind the jury that someone else has done it before. You know, I read a story about a child molester down in Florida that got off on an extremely light sentence. Now that the precedent has been set, republicans will think that is OK to molest children, because someone else has already done it before.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 pmI heard that Clinton knows the definition of acerebralist.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
LOL. And I have the book right here with me.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:58 pmClinton chews gum.
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July 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 pmNobody cares.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
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Just remember that the next time we have a dem president.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 pmWhy do they allow someone to spam the same word over and over and over like that?
I mean, ok, so the can’t come up with any original thoughts, so they just repeat the same worn phrases time and time again, but to do it 750 times in a single comment?
All that does is bury the current comments.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmWAY TO GO GW!!! Screw these leftist a-holes. Anyone doesn’t like it tell them to Google the Clinton Pardons. Or, better yet, tell them to Google “the Clinton Body Count”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmComment by johnsom — July 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
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So, because Clinton did it, that makes it OK? If Clinton had molested children, would that make it OK for Bush to do the same?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmWow. It never occurred to me that George Bush would pardon Scooter.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmThat does it, I’m outta here!
Let me know when ThinkProgress begins to exhibit signs of intelligence about all these acerebralists’ posts.
I have to get up early anyway. Sorry to have to “cut and run” (that’ll please the low brow group), but I can’t let myself get caught up again. I’m losing way too much sleep staying up late every night. besides, I was having trouble getting connected due to (computer) hardware issues which I found a way around.
Good night, Zooey. Keep it up, you’re doing great!
Good night, everyone. See you tomorrow.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmJust more Neocon rage against the Constitution
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pmSandy Burger? You compare Sandy Burger to this?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmYou are comparing apples to oranges.
First, let me say that if Sandy Burger did anything criminal, it was not the weak-kneed lefties who let him slide. Neocons controlled every facet of the government. If he was guilty, why did your people let him off the hook?
And let me also say that “your guys did it” is not only juvenile, but it certainly is not my position that crimes should only be prosecuted if the “other guys do it”, nor does the one excuse the other.
If people, especially people in positions of trust and power, break the law, then they should be prosecuted.
If they are convicted, send them to jail.
The reason the Scooter case is so contemptible is it smacks of a cover up. Do only repugnicans cover up their crimes. Of course not. But lately they have been doing a whole lot of covering up. And they have been brazen about their disdain for the rule of law. And there seem to be a lot of them. It is a Republican administration and yet so many repugs are being investigated, tried, and convicted…with many more to come. Imagine with Democrats in power how many more will come. It will tie up our government for years. And before you trolls start typing let me say it: William Jefferson did it to. Fry his ass too.
Someone on here said something about the “lefties” destroying the Bill of Rights.
You mean like the fourth amendment? (illegal wiretapping, illegal searches of homes. library records, DARPA, Total Information Awareness,monitoring peace groups)
You mean like the first amendment (government money going to support religious groups, free speech zones, getting thrown out of public forums for being in the wrong political party)
You mean the Fifth Amendment (Guantanamo)
Or the sixth (Guantanamo)
The eighth(Guantanamo)
You must mean the precious second amendment. Anyone stopped you from owning a gun?
The trolls making there appearance in this thread are acutally here using the Mossad -created software, Megaphone, which allows a few to destroy the normal discourse of a message board, and hijack it to their own advantage.
This is yet more evidence of the Zionist/Israeli role in the destruction of the United States.
High Treason is now irrelevant…since the coup of 9/11 was implemented against the American People by those whose representatives are here in this thread.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmGood night, everyone. See you tomorrow.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 2, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
Goodnight, Wayne. :)
Clinton likes to wish people a goodnight.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmIs this a game?? Could somone please explain to me that if Clinton did something unethical or broke a law that it somehow JUSTIFIES Bush and Cheney SERIOUSLY breaking the laws – and worse, making laws irrelevant?
That sounds just like my child saying “well, johnny did it..”. To which I would say “If Johnny jumped off a cliff, then does that make it okay for you to do that?”
Come on you guys.. Grow up! That is a STUPID justification for what is happening with this Administration. No, it was not breaking the law to pardon Libby, but was it right? Ethical? Or were they covering up something worse?
This country’s survival is at stake (beings it is based on the rule of law). This isn’t about us against them. That is grade-school. It is time to look at what effect each decision is having. This is a big country and each thing that happens affects an awful lot of people. The people running thiscountry really need to have some integrity (which is sorely lacking right now).
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pmcomment by Chris:
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pmNow that the precedent has been set, republicans will think that is OK to molest children, because someone else has already done it before.
They already thought it was O.K.
Clinton sometimes burps without excusing himself.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pmClinton has knobby knees.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pmIf you pardon a traitor you are one, and intend on being one.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmAnyone know who the attorney was who represented Marc Rich as he worked to get his pardon?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmSo, what are we going to do about it…huh?
Any ideas, let’s organize. I can be reached at lupeyg2(at)gmail.com
And I’m serious.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — July 2, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Rich didn’t risk our national security and coverup the illegal actions of the administration – Libby did.
No, Rich was only on the run from the US government, hiding in another country, after committing various crimes.
And how exactly did Libby risk national security, nimrod?
How about the FALN terrorists? Were they a risk to national security?
And that’s a hilarous complaint (ie, feigned concern for national security) coming from a guy who probably cheered along with Harry Reid when the Patriot Act got killed, when our program for tracking the financial operations of terrorists was illegally leaked to the press, and who b#tched and whined about every effort to uncover terrorist activities.
What it’s time to do, is investigate and start impeachment procedures… You f*ckers are unworthy to hold public office – Nazi boy.
LMAO — the guy who wants to impeach the president for exercising his legitimate constitutional authority… throwing around the ever-present “nazi” cliche you all love so much!
Great stuff!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmMarc Rich’s attorney. Come on trolls, who was he?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmAll that does is bury the current comments.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
I guess that explains why Mr. P and CT are so jealous of you Bartlebee. Like I said, Posting Envy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 pmSo, what are we going to do about it…huh?
Any ideas, let’s organize. I can be reached at lupeyg2(at)gmail.com
And I’m serious.
Comment by Lupeyg2 — July 2, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Sorry cheif, but the only person dumb enough to try to incite sedition in a blog would be a fed, so I doubt you’ll get too many bites over here.
I’d try something a little more radical, like “Muslims for Jesus” or something.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:20 pmVarious lawyers had tried to get White to accept a plea-bargain from Rich for years. One of these lawyers, according to the New Yorker, was Lewis Libby, now chief of staff to Vice President Cheney. (Cheney’s office did not return calls on the matter.)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21595
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:20 pmComment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 2, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Let’s see, he diverted about $700,000,000 of money authorized appropriated specifically for the war in Afghanistan, to begin preparations for the invasion of Iraq (an invasion, I’ll remind you, he claimed would “only be a last resortâ€, but for which he had been intending all along, probably at the insistence of the Veep.)
By his constant and, in quantity, unprecedented use of Signing Statements, he has shown a flagrant intention to NOT “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.†That is a direct constitutional violation right there, which brings us to…
“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and that I will to the best of ability preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States.†He has failed to do that.
Woooooow, heavy, dude. How did Fitzgerald miss all that?
They sure couldn’t fool you, though, could they?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmI guess that explains why Mr. P and CT are so jealous of you Bartlebee. Like I said, Posting Envy.
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
I didn’t know they were jealous of me, but are you saying I bury the current comments? I always try to post short to keep it moving.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmMarc Rich’s attorney. Come on trolls, who was he?
The Rapeublic ISLAMOTerrorists want to IGNORE that Marc Rich’s lawyer
was SCOOTER LIBBY.
And they ALSO want to ignore that Daddy Bush 41 pardoned an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST named Orlando Bosch (still in Miami).
He ALSO pardoned the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS, in order to PROTECT HIS OWN AZZ.
They work in idiotboy’s administration to this day…
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 pmLIKE TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG father,
LIKE TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG son…
Woooooow, heavy, dude. How did Fitzgerald miss all that?
They sure couldn’t fool you, though, could they?
Comment by Scooper — July 2, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
Because Fitxgerald wasn’t chartered to investigate the president dumbass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmLet me know when ThinkProgress begins to exhibit signs of intelligence about all these acerebralists’ posts.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 2, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
“Acerebralists”
You keep on a-usin that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmI didn’t know they were jealous of me, but are you saying I bury the current comments? I always try to post short to keep it moving.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
No BARTLEBEE I was referring to them making fun of your name and I believe it is because they are jealous of your intelligent posts. And they haven’t had anything reasonable to say since, well ever. And I couldn’t agree more with that long obnoxious post.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmPosting Envy.
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
Flew right over the old boy’s head.
But that’s OK, it’s FART&PEE, he’s not exactly the brightest!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmWoooooow, heavy, dude. How did Fitzgerald miss all that?
They sure couldn’t fool you, though, could they?
Fitz didn’t miss ANYTHING.
HE STILL has THREE YEARS to go after Cheney and Bush, the REAL TRAITORS to the USA!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmOrganizing a protest = sedition? I’m talking about exercising my 1st amendment right in a creative way to get attention. I’m not talking about anything amounting to criminal?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:26 pmBut that’s OK, it’s FART&PEE, he’s not exactly the brightest!
Comment by Mr. President
Much brighter than you however. You’ve turned into an amazing waste of time.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmComment by George W. ISLAMOTerrorist, the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG — July 2, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
By George, you are right.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmNow what do you Libby heads have to say about the Marc Rich pardon…the one Scooter wanted.
Because Fitxgerald wasn’t chartered to investigate the president dumbass.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
“ssssshhhhhhhhoooooom”
The sound of the point going right over Barty’s head.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:28 pm“ssssshhhhhhhhoooooomâ€
The sound of the point going right over Barty’s head.
Comment by Scooter
Because you make up lies instead of stating fact you make fun of reasonable posters. I guess all these fake names are just you two circle jerkers Mr. P and CT.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 pmClinton wears glasses when he reads.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:30 pmI hear Clinton refused to remove his shoes before entering the oval office
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 pmMarc Rich’s attorney. Come on trolls, who was he?
The Rapeublic ISLAMOTerrorists want to IGNORE that Marc Rich’s lawyer
was SCOOTER LIBBY.
And they ALSO want to ignore that Daddy Bush 41 pardoned an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST named Orlando Bosch (still in Miami).
He ALSO pardoned the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS, in order to PROTECT HIS OWN AZZ.
TRAITOR Bush 41 called these TREASONOUS SCUMBAGS “patriots”
They work in idiotboy’s administration to this day…
LIKE TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG father,
By the way, I hope a couple of PATRIOTIC CIA AGENTS
DO THE TRAITOR IN!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 pmLIKE TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG son…
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Wow. Someone’s paranoid.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 pmThey commuted his sentence so he wouldn’t talk about the Vice Presidents connection.
But Fitzgerald can call him again in the on-going investigation.
He will give him blanket imunity so Libby can’t claim the fifth.
Then if he refuses to testify, he is held in contempt of court and charged with obstruction of justice.
Fitzgerald isn’t done with this.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 pmClinton is a good dancer.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 pm“A Good Dancer!” Impeach Him!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pmFitzgerald isn’t done with this.
Comment by willyloman
Yup, and ONLY Fitzgerald can end the investigation.
NOT EVEN Bush the ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG can fire him!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pmFrom all accounts in the MSM that know him, they say that Fitzgerald will pursue Libby now into a further investigation into the OVP.
He knows why they did it, when already they face great pressure about the supeneas and the Wire Tapping.
Libby must have threatened them. Even Nixon and Ford didn’t commute the sentences of those that were convicted of obstructing justice in the Watergate affair.
This is outragaous timing on the part of the WhiteHouse. Theya are begging for impeachment.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 pm$250,000, two years probation and a felony conviction. That’s the difference. I wanted to see prison time as well, but this is better than a pardon, that’s for sure.
Comment by ann — July 2, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Unfortunately, this is not exactly what this commutation of sentence brings with it. This was actually LESS ETHICAL (but tactically smarter) on the part of the Bush team. Why? Because, this commuted sentence allows Libby to continue to plead the fifth, which gives him far more ability to continue to obstruct justice successfully. If he were pardoned, he couldn’t plead the fifth any more, which makes further appearances in court far, far more dangerous for him. Libby is no longer compelled by law to choose between further charges of obstruction of justice and perjury, versus squealing like a pig and spilling his guts to law enforcement and the courts. Commuting his sentence was the single most obstructive thing Bush could have done.
This move also means nothing as far as Libby’s punishment goes. His “friends” will raise or give him the $250,000. His probation will in all likelihood be the most lax probation on the face of the planet. And, before he leaves office in Jan 2009, Bush will simply pardon Libby then, allowing him and his to have their cake and eat it, too. No talking by
Libby until he is pardoned, because he can still plead the fifth, and no actual punishment once BushCo are in the clear and able to officially pardon him.
This is a blatant continuation of the very obstruction of justice that Fitzgerald prosecuted Libby for in the first place. Only now, the President of the United States has officially, and publicly obstructed justice himself. Before, there were mere suspicions of the president’s involvement. Now, we know for certain of his deep involvement in the entire affair.
The only way any good can come of this, is if the Democrats scream long and loud, pointing out that THIS is Bush’s Saturday Night Massacre. Bush’s Monday Night Massacre will most likely go down as a turning point in the history books. This is the blatant disregard for the Rule of Law that too many people needed to see to (hopefully) to finally turn the corner, and rid us of this horrific crime syndicate ruining the hallowed halls of the White House as they’ve done TWICE before. Hopefully, unlike the aftermath of Nixon’s and Reagan’s law-breaking, We the People will truly, utterly, and devastatingly punish all of these criminals, and make it quite apparent that such attitudes and actions as exhibited by this administration will no longer be tolerated.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:44 pmClinton is a good dancer.
Comment by Zooey
So is MC Rove! man that Kung-fu Grip Bunny Hop was tight!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:44 pm“Stars and Stripes Fortraitors”
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 pmtrolls like Burglar,
It has been said to you many times that unless you have the false premise: “Clinton never did anything wrong” you cannot use the “Clinton did it too” argument. You are not pointing out the hypocracy of progressives, because progressives don’t agree with the pardoning of Marc Rich nor many other things Bill or Hillary advocated such as NAFTA or GATT.
And using the prosecuter’s definition of sexual relations (which did not include a bj) to then say you did not have sexual relations ( a judge later ruled that– either–way it was immaterial to the Jones case and therefore could not be perjury or obstruction of justice) is really not on the same level as dozens of lies taking us into an illegal, extremely costly (one million lives and $2.3 Trillion), and counter-productive war.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:46 pmClinton did it too.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 pmNo BARTLEBEE I was referring to them making fun of your name and I believe it is because they are jealous of your intelligent posts. And they haven’t had anything reasonable to say since, well ever. And I couldn’t agree more with that long obnoxious post.
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
Wow. Thanks shane.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 pm“Clinton did it too.”
Comment by Mr. President
To cover for his administration? Which pardon?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmSo is MC Rove! man that Kung-fu Grip Bunny Hop was tight!
Comment by willyloman
Yee-hah!!
Clinton is able to chew his toenails, but elects not to do so.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 pmClinton
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 pmdid
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 pmit
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 pmI pretty much ignore mr Prez now. If I follow what he’s saying for more than a minute thats more than he can say for himself, to be sure.
Being insulted by him is like being insulted by a 6 year old. It just doesn’t mean anything.
Besides. I’ve cut that clown down so low he had to unzip his pants to kiss Bush’s ass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 pmtoo!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 pmComments by Mr. President
That was strictly Romper Room.
How pathetic.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 pmMarc Rich’s attorney. Come on trolls, who was he?
The Rapeublic ISLAMOTerrorists want to IGNORE that Marc Rich’s lawyer
was SCOOTER LIBBY.
And they ALSO want to ignore that Daddy Bush 41 pardoned an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST named Orlando Bosch (still in Miami).
He ALSO pardoned the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS, in order to PROTECT HIS OWN AZZ.
TRAITOR Bush 41 called these TREASONOUS SCUMBAGS “patriotsâ€
They work in idiotboy’s administration to this day…
LIKE TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG father,
LIKE TRAITOR ISLAMOTerrorist Saudi OIL WHOREBAG son…
By the way, I hope a couple of PATRIOTIC CIA AGENTS
DO Libby THE TRAITOR IN!!! WHACK! SPLAT!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 pmClinton sometimes misplaces his keys.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 pmHow pathetic.
Comment by barfly — July 2, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
What?
I thought this was a “Clinton did it too!” themed party!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmClinton pardoned a traitor in a time of war?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmWell, not after what the left has done to the Constitution, anyway. Is there anything left of the Bill of Rights after the trashing the left has given it over the last couple decades?
Comment by Scooter — July 2, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Considering in the last 20 years — 1988 to 2007…
1. We’ve had a Republican president for 12 of those years.
2. We’ve had a Republican majority in Congress for 13 of those years.
…I do believe that constitutes Republican control for a majority of those years…
…just what is it that the “left” has done to the bill of rights, and why, do you think, the “right” couldn’t stop them or reverse the travesty of what they did?
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:58 pmComment by George W. ISLAMOTerrorist
I’d forgotten how Mr.”out of the loop” saved his own ass by pardoning those Iran/Contra scum …
I guess Bush is just following in his father’s felonious footsteps.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:58 pmDamn it!
Barfly got 666.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 pmClinton pardoned a traitor in a time of war?
Comment by Grandma Libby
Nope. Only the Bush Criminals pardon TRAITORS.
Daddy Bush:
1. Orlando Bosch, INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST, living in Miami
2. Iran/Contra CRIMINALS Abrams, Pointdexter, Negroponte, Weinberger
Idiot Son:
I. Lewis Libby, MARC RICH’S attorney, CONVICTED CRIMINAL and TRAITOR to the USA
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 pmThese guys are laughing now, but suppose, just suppose, clemency or pardon for libby is just what certain members of Congress and the DOJ, wanted?
Before Bush commuted Libby’s sentence, it was hard to tie him to the Valerie Plame leak. Cheney, yes, but Bush, not so much.
But not now. Now there is a path. A conspiracy path. The argument is there thanks to Bush, that libby acted with impunity, so that he could protect cheney, because Bush had already signed on to protecting him.
Thats called Conspiracy to commit Obstruction, for which if proven, would mean certain impeachment.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 pmClinton wears glasses when he reads.
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Clinton keeps his eyes open when he sneezes.
(something that is otherwise impossible for the rest of us…or so says medical science.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 pmWow. Someone’s paranoid.
Comment by Mr. President
Apparently you don’t understand the word paranoid either.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 pm“I thought this was a “Clinton did it too!†themed party!”
Comment by Mr. President
No, it’s “Old Home Week for Self-Serving Pardons, Part II: Like Father, Like Son.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 pmthe other way to go would be to take “scooter” in the General Lee down by the old mill and jump the washed out bridge and beat that mfer like a step child just for the damn fun of it till he confesses his sins before turning him over to some hard pipe hitting n——-s so they can get medival on his a–.
That’s how they would handle in in pretty much any other country on the planet.
Kinda sends a little message to the Powers that be about ignoring our juries, you know.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 pmThis thread looks like it could exceed 1,000 posts eventually.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 pmThis thread looks like it could exceed 1,000 posts eventually.
Comment by Jay Randal — July 2, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
Don’t jinx it, Jay.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 pmComment by Moderation — July 2, 2007 @ 10:44 pm
Excellent post, really well done, Moderation. As usual!
——————–
“The Rapeublic ISLAMOTerrorists want to IGNORE that Marc Rich’s lawyer was SCOOTER LIBBY.”
Comment by George W. ISLAMOTerrorist, the Saudi OIL WHOREBAG — July 2, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
I was hoping someone would have brought this factoid up earlier, thanks for doing so GWITSOW. The trolls ought to be ashamed of themselves for not knowing that.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 pmBesides. I’ve cut that clown down so low he had to unzip his pants to kiss Bush’s ass.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I said earlier, I think they sit around on a motel bed, Mr. P & CT, naked and smirking at each other but I’m sure there’s other trolls there. But if you think they wear pants, I’ll consider the possibility.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 pmMr President > you wanted the 666 post position I see, but barfly got it > lol.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:08 pmI’d forgotten how Mr.â€out of the loop†saved his own ass by pardoning those Iran/Contra scum …
I guess Bush is just following in his father’s felonious footsteps.
Comment by barfly
Yup. Daddy Bush is the LYNCHPIN and the BIGGEST TRAITOR OF ALL!!
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 pmMr President > you wanted the 666 post position I see, but barfly got it > lol.
Comment by Jay Randal — July 2, 2007 @ 11:08 pm
Its ok. He’s still got the forehead tatoo.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:13 pmClinton can cure terminal hiccups.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:13 pmThose who are laughing now, might be crying soon.
In chess sometimes you sacrifice a rook or a knight to get the Queen, and ultimately, the King. Libby may have just been that sacrificed peice.”
Suppose what happened today, was exactly what someone in the special investigators office wanted Bush to do?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:16 pmFor all you Clinton bashing trolls, here’s a list of Bush Sr.’s most heinous pardons:
December 24, 1992
Pardoned
Caspar W. Weinberger (1988 Several counts of perjury, See Iran-Contra Affair)
Elliott Abrams (1988 Two counts of unlawfully withholding information. See Iran-Contra Affair)
Duane R. Clarridge (1991 Seven counts of perjury and false statements, See Iran-Contra Affair)
Alan D. Fiers (1991 Two misdemeanor counts of withholding information from the Congress, See Iran-Contra Affair)
Clair George
(1991 Ten counts of perjury, false statements and obstruction)
(1992 two felony charges of false statements and perjury before Congress — see Iran-Contra Affair)
Robert C. McFarlane (1988 See Iran-Contra Affair)
And I guess since he got away with pardoning his partners in crime, Jr. thought he could to. These people need to be stopped.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmSuppose what happened today, was exactly what someone in the special investigators office wanted Bush to do?
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I like Bart, he’s a smart dude.
Clinton likes him too.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pmSuppose what happened today, was exactly what someone in the special investigators office wanted Bush to do?
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I hope you’re right. But even if it wasn’t the master plan, hopefully Fitz is so pissed off that he’ll go after them now.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 pmAccording to the Pardons Office inside the DOJ, five years should pass from time of conviction to pardon.
According to CNN poll June 22-24: 72% opposed to Libby Pardon, 19% in favor
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 pmHey Zooey, I think stoopidfingtroll is just pulling your chain.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pmFor your callling pleasure tomorrow, here’s a copy of the White House phonebook.
Now you can keep calling on calling until you get through. And be civil and dignified when you do…
Or maybe some enterprising person could organize a phone tree….
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pmI hope you’re right. But even if it wasn’t the master plan, hopefully Fitz is so pissed off that he’ll go after them now.
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
I haven’t personally seen his reaction yet, but from what heard, he’s none too pleased.
If Bush told Libby, or even alluded to the fact that if he got convicted of anything while covering up for cheney, then that would be conspiracy to obstruct justice, which is much more serious than lying.
I have a feeling that theres more to this than we’re seeing on the surface, and more importantly, more than Bush and the near sighted neocons are seeing.
When one door closes, another opens.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 pm#668
What’s your point? Alexander Hamilton specifically fought for the power of the President to pardon traitors.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 pmAnd I guess since he got away with pardoning his partners in crime, Jr. thought he could to. These people need to be stopped.
They can be. Don’t vote for Hillary.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 pmIf Libby knew Bush would pardon or commute his sentence, then they’re looking at conspiracy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 pmRe: The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged. His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long-lasting.
Boo fuckin hoo.
The AEI or some other think tank will snap him up so fast it’ll make his head spin.
Hell will freeze over before I feel sorry for that ass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 pmTo cover for his administration? Which pardon?
Susan McDougal and Rostentowski.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 pmWhat’s your point? Alexander Hamilton specifically fought for the power of the President to pardon traitors.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
Well thanks for admiting Libby is a traitor.
One down, half dozen to go.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 pm#694
You can call him whatever you want. It is irrelevant.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:40 pmRe: The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged. His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long-lasting.
Boo freakin’ hoo.
The AEI or some other neocon thinktank will snap Libby up so fast it’ll make his head spin.
I’m feelin’ none too sorry for his ass.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 pm#694
You can call him whatever you want. It is irrelevant.
Comment by mustb12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
I didn’t call him anything you festering carbuncle on the ass of the RNC.
You did.
Or can’t you read your own writing either?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:42 pmBut nice to know you consider treason “irrelevant”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 pmAs Thick as thieves.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 pmTo cover for his administration? Which pardon?
Susan McDougal and Rostentowski.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
McDougal was related to Whitewater, which I believe took place before Clinton became president. Not related to his administration.
Try again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 pm#697
I didn’t call Libby anything of the sort. Try reading again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 pmHey Zooey, I think stoopidfingtroll is just pulling your chain.
Comment by Keith G.
Heh. I got an idea for an excellent game from him. :)
Clinton sometimes forgets to rinse out the sink after shaving.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 pmOh boy m12 has showed up for his GOPer shift on TP.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 pm#697
I didn’t call Libby anything of the sort. Try reading again.
Comment by maggot12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
Sure you did. You responded to a post about libby, stating ;
What’s your point? Alexander Hamilton specifically fought for the power of the President to pardon traitors.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
Thereby referencing him as a traitor.
Maybe you didn’t “mean” to say it, but you still did junior.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 pmAnd hey, you’re right. Libby is a peice of shit traitor.
Just like Bush. Just like Cheney. Just like you, and most likley your entire family.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 pmClinton sometimes makes a noise with his straw.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 pm#704
No, idiot, I was educating your dumb a$$ about the founding fathers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 pm#704
No, idiot, I was educating your dumb a$$ about the founding fathers.
Comment by moron12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
oh
:|
Well maybe you’d better stick to educating people about the day you found your dumb ass father.
Thats much more funnier and you seem to know a lot more about that subject.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmAnd when you’re done with that, tell us the one about how the world was created 6000 years ago.
You know how we love that one.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 pmQuestion for you though.
If your wife stilll can have children, were you planning on educating them too?
Or were you going to opt for public schools and give the poor little rats half a chance?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 pmClinton sometimes makes a noise with his straw.
Comment by Keith G.
Heh. Welcome…..
Clinton knows Chimpy’s dad loves him best.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:58 pmClinton dreads ripping off band-aids.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmOne of funders for W’s Arbusto Oil was a bin Laden.
A major funder for W’s Harken Energy was BCCI (Bank of Crooks and Criminals International), a haven for Islamic terrorists and drug runners.
Bin Ladens were investers in Bushs’ Carlyle Group.
GHWB sold massive weaponry illegally to terrorist state of Iran.
GHWB transfered $5 billion in credits illegally to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.
Clinton lost a few thousand dollars on a condo deal twenty-five years before becoming president.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmClinton loves Harry Potter books.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 amWhen you teach your kids history M12, do you have Barbara Bush play Georrge Washington?
If not, you should consider it. She wouldn’t even require makeup.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 amOne of funders for W’s Arbusto Oil was a bin Laden.
A major funder for W’s Harken Energy was BCCI (Bank of Crooks and Criminals International), a haven for Islamic terrorists and drug runners.
Bin Ladens were investers in Bushs’ Carlyle Group.
GHWB sold massive weaponry illegally to terrorist state of Iran.
GHWB transfered $5 billion in credits illegally to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.
Clinton lost a few thousand dollars on a condo deal twenty-five years before becoming president.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 amAND George HW Bush pardoned the IranContra TRAITORS, as well as an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST, Orlando Bosh, STILL in Miami…
Clinton sometimes forgot to do his homework.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 amClinton once took the label off his mattress.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 amWhat’s your point? Alexander Hamilton specifically fought for the power of the President to pardon traitors.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
You can call him whatever you want. It is irrelevant.
Comment by m12 — July 2, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Behold, a view in to the mind of an authoritarian traitor. From their point of view, it is OK to be a traitor if you are on their side. It is a perfectly valid argument to be in favor of abusive powers if someone, anyone at all, really, at any time during the entire existence of our country, either fought for the use of those abusive powers, or used those abusive powers. It’s not even, “two wrongs make a right”, it’s more like, “if anyone ever abused this power before, it’s fair game for my side to use it now.”
It is just pathetic. Seriously pathetic.
Scooter Libby is a TRAITOR. He betrayed our country in profound and fundamental ways. His actions and those for whom he is covering, have quite literally endangered us all, in a multitude of ways; from the direct implications of his role in outing a CIA asset (Brewster-Jennings) that has put those on the front lines at grave risk, to the further degradation of the Rule of Law he was and is now a party to that hurts every single American alive until the Rule of Law is restored, to the covering up of and covering for the illegal activities of those in the highest office in the land, an act that threatens to change what WAS the world’s shining example of a democratic republic into a banana republic that makes a joke of us all.
What Scooter Libby did IS relevant, in the extreme. It is relevant to each and every man, woman and child living in this country. It is, in fact, relevant to every person on this planet. For when the shining jewel of an ideal such as the American Dream becomes chipped, tarnished, and ultimately shatters, the rest of the world tends to fight…violently…over the pieces that remain.
We should point out, publicly ridicule, and embarrass every damned lock-stepping, authoritarian, brown-shirt-wearing, corrupt, rank, vile, putrid, TRAITOR in this country. Shine the light on them, and step on them before the cockroaches can scuttle back into the shadows.
If there is any justice at all, Bush, Cheney, Libby, Wolfowitz, Snow, and every other person complicit with this administration, and with the treasonous acts they’ve perpetrated, will rot in prison for the rest of their pathetic lives when this is over with.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 am“If not, you should consider it. She wouldn’t even require makeup.”
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Heh-good thing I wasn’t drinking when I read that. :D
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 amComment by Moderation — July 3, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Bravo! Well said.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 amClinton now believes all things in Moderation. :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:11 amYes and just as Libby is a traitor, Cheney is a treasonist…at least by Truman’s definition. He is into war profiteering and enables war profiteers by his position.
He has pruposely moved to undermine the Constitution several times and continues to lurk in the limbo between Executive and Legislative branches.
Enough already. Impeach.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 amClinton now believes all things in Moderation. :)
Comment by Zooey — July 3, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Now, now. Clinton believes in all things, Moderation. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 am“One of funders for W’s Arbusto Oil was a bin Laden.
A major funder for W’s Harken Energy was BCCI (Bank of Crooks and Criminals International), a haven for Islamic terrorists and drug runners.
Bin Ladens were investers in Bushs’ Carlyle Group.
GHWB sold massive weaponry illegally to terrorist state of Iran.
GHWB transfered $5 billion in credits illegally to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.
Clinton lost a few thousand dollars on a condo deal twenty-five years before becoming president.”
OF THE SIX ABOVE, GUESS WHICH ONE “THE LIBERAL MEDIA” COVERED FOR EIGHT SOLID YEARS?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 amKlinton did it too!
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 amNow, now. Clinton believes in all things, Moderation. ;)
Comment by Moderation — July 3, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Clinton enjoys a quick wit. :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 amClinton and his wife raised a lovely daughter.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 amClinton and his wife raised a lovely daughter.
Comment by Zooey — July 3, 2007 @ 12:17 am
Bush’s aides raised two, er…. daughters.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 amClinton has knowledge of the word “skank.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 amBush had 2 “skanks”.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 amComment by Zooey — July 3, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Are you trying to keep this up all the way to 1000 posts? ;-)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:23 amIt deserves 10,000.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 amI mean, what a COWARD Bush is.
To toss this out on a holiday, and not even have the courage to face the cameras or take questions.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 amSeems the threads always slow down before it reaches 800 posts.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 amAre you trying to keep this up all the way to 1000 posts? ;-)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Shit, I’ll never make it.
You guys could help, ya know!
:-D
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:29 amComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 12:25 am
Keith Olbermann pointed that out, too. He (Keith) is doing another “Special Comment” on it tomorrow night (well, now it’s tonight.)
Moderation’s posts sound like Keith’s “Special Comments”.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:29 amBush is NOT the President of the United States.
He is an interim DICK-TATER who leads a tiny handful of this countries population.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:30 amTo toss this out on a holiday, and not even have the courage to face the cameras or take questions.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
It shows how little regard he has for the people of this country, Bart.
We shouldn’t be surprised, but we should always be shocked. :{
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:30 amHow about this novel idea:
Valerie’s name and/or then-current or past position within the CIA shouldn’t have been discussed with ANYONE outside the government, whether it was from Richard Armitage or Scooter or Cheney.
If Plame was a nobody, as our Republican trolls would have us believe, then there was no benefit, political or not, of having her name bandied about within the administration.
Suppose for a moment that Joe’s investigation found out that Iraq’s attempt at securing yellowcake was valid. Would the Bush administration then had a problem with, as they’d have us believe, Valerie personally selecting Joe to go on the trip? Would they have suggested that her actions were inappropriate, and that her actions may have, in some way, tainted his findings?
Hell no. As we have learned over the years, Bush has no problem with his “yes men” who tell him exactly what he wants to hear.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 amWow. Posting a normal comment felt weird…..
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 amSorry, Zookeeper, I’ve got to get some sleep, look at the time! Bartlebee can help you–he sounds more awake than I do. :D
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 amModeration’s posts sound like Keith’s “Special Commentsâ€.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 3, 2007 @ 12:29 am
He does write quite well, but I don’t think Keith would end a comment on a dangling modifier.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 amHa! I hope somewhere in all these posts is a “Clinton did it too!” Because he committed perjury and he commuted the sentences of a bunch of folks convicted of felonies. He’s got Bush and Libby beat easily. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 amTomorrows comment by the way Jane, will be a demand for the President and Vice President, to step down.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 amComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 12:31 am
Not to mention that Armitage was supposedly well-known as a gossip, so why was he trusted with ANY information like the identity of a covert CIA agent. Was he told about this in particular because Bush/Cheney/Rove knew he would blab?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:35 amBut you’re right Jane. That moderation can really write.
Its some of the best writing I’ve seen in here and he does sound a lot like Keith Olberman.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 amA major national security breach occured. It originated in the White House, probably on Dick Cheney’s desk, helped along by “loyal Bushie” hacks like Scooter Libby.
Years ago during the Vietnam War, I served in the USAF Security Service, top-secret clearance, reporting to DIRNSA (Director, NSA). I read a whole lot of classified reports, and didn’t once flap my lips, especially not to any reporters. I took our national security seriously.
But if I had come across the classified identity of a covert CIA operative and divulged that operative’s identity to the world (and our enemies), I’d have either ended up before a firing squad or still be spending my days in Leavenworth.
Ames did and got time. Hansen did and got time.
Scooter Libby, and other Republicans in the White House, did…and Scooter Libby covers for all of them…and now is getting a free pass from Bush (hell, you and I both know Bush will pardon Libby after the November 2008 election is over).
Where national security is concerned, I will NEVER trust another Republican again. The Bush administration and all it’s corruption has cured me of any such illusions, and Scooter’s skating has proven to me that in national security matters Republicans are “all hat and no cattle.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:37 amIf it is Keith Olberman, then he should tell us. Cause he’s got a hell of a lot of fans in here.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:37 amRichard Armitage admitted to some reporter that he’s “a notorious gossip.” (link unavailable at this time) Why would such a person be given any kind of security clearance, if the purpose of handing those out is to give them to people who can trusted with classified information??? There’s your problem with the Bush administration. I’m willing to bet Armitage still has his clearance, too. I really wouldn’t mind being wrong about that.
I should have been in bed by now, but the blog needed a little updating, and I’m a little too wired, despite having to get up in four hours.
For real, this time. Good night, Everyone.
Peace on Earth.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:37 amSorry, Zookeeper, I’ve got to get some sleep, look at the time! Bartlebee can help you–he sounds more awake than I do. :D
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Clinton appreciates a good night’s sleep, and a little help from his friends.
:-)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 amBush is NOT the President of the United States.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Even the Bush White House will not reference the 2000 election. In fact, they avoid the fiasco from December of that year as if it were the plague. His bio starts out like this:
George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. He was sworn into office on January 20, 2001, re-elected on November 2, 2004, and sworn in for a second term on January 20, 2005.
I know I beat this to death, but it’s just so damned comical.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 amHa! I hope somewhere in all these posts is a “Clinton did it too!†Because he committed perjury and he commuted the sentences of a bunch of folks convicted of felonies. He’s got Bush and Libby beat easily. ;)
Comment by upright left
Oh the irony…..
Clinton appreciates irony.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 amModeration’s posts sound like Keith’s “Special Commentsâ€.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 3, 2007 @ 12:29 am
Wow, that is quite a compliment! :o
If we had more journalists like Olbermann, we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place. This is why the fourth estate’s members on Capitol Hill cannot become personally involved with those whom they cover. One year rotations for all DC journalists. Term limits for every elected office, period. No more career politicians, no more career Washington journalists. Just…no more. :(
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 amLet me just add to WC’s and Wayne’s posts regarding Armitage. I’m speculating that Armitage was given the info about Valerie Plame deliberately, knowing that Armitage was a gossip.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 amI love it. Bush says that Libby’s 30-month sentence was “excessive.” Apparently by exactly 30 months.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 amIts time for more Anchors and news people to step up.
As more and more people die at the hand of this executive gone mad.
Russert, Stephanopolis, Scheiffer, Jennings, Koppel, etc, need to make their own demands for the President to step down, on the nightly news, and the sunday shows.
When this is all over, and America is back, we’re going to remember guys like Stephanopolis, who sat arouind trying to sound intelligent, chuckling at the “wingnuts” and trying to always show “two sides” to every story, when the obvious faces them.
The people are not going to forget what they do now.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 amComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 12:38 am
Since he was sworn in on Jan 20,2001, it sort of follows that he was elected in 2000. It ain’t rocket science, wc. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 amOkay, here’s one for you Zooey before I fall asleep:
Clinton knows what “acerebralist” means.;-)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 amI love it. Bush says that Libby’s 30-month sentence was “excessive.†Apparently by exactly 30 months.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
He would have been out in 15 months, so even that was excessive, apparently.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 amHe does write quite well, but I don’t think Keith would end a comment on a dangling modifier.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 12:32 am
Hehe. To be quite fair, I don’t exactly edit or parse my words when I post to blog comments. I just let them flow from my mind to my fingers. If I REALLY cared about my grammar, I would make my posts in another window and edit them. My edited writing is much cleaner, in my humble opinion.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 amOh, and I am not Kieth Olbermann. Not that I would mind being that wonderful human being. But alas, I am not.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 amDamn, Zooey, Wayne says that you already used that one! D’oh! Great minds, again, huh?
Moderation, I meant the compliment–you’ve eloquently voiced our ideas and our ideals time and again.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 amClinton appreciates irony.
Comment by Zooey — July 3, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Excellent! I knew he wasn’t all bad. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 amDamn, Zooey, Wayne says that you already used that one! D’oh! Great minds, again, huh?
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Yup, I used that one hours and hours ago…..
I have a headache. Great minds…. :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:51 amWas he told about this in particular because Bush/Cheney/Rove knew he would blab?
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 3, 2007 @ 12:35 am
I’d count on it. And I concur with The Oracle’s (post above) first paragraph.
Like others who have pointed out the convenience of Cheney refusing oversight of classified info by the ISOO starting in 2003, I think the Plame issue is but one of the reasons Cheney refuses to let anyone look at his files.
Two possibilities:
1. Cheney had classified info that he otherwise does not need to have possession of (say, info on Plame), or
2. Cheney had the info on Plame, legitimately had a right to have the info, yet it was, um, “missing” from his files. You know…it had been, um, “loaned out.” That was one of the jobs of the ISOO, as I understand it…making sure that classified info was properly secured.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 amClinton loves to work hard.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 amComment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 3, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Goodnight, sir. Sleep well.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 amWhen you have the Mafia in-charge of the White House what do you expect?
It’s not like they are anything more than criminals, every last one of them.
All you repukes that think this is good, you are traitors to the constitution and the rule of law, you are criminals for supporting it.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 amNo, Bush was not elected in either 2000 nor 2004. Exit polls said Gore won Florida by 300,000.
Exit polls said Kerry won the nation by 3 million. Exit polls are accurate to about 0.2%
Republican corporations make the voting machines and they will not allow us to see how they work.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 am“I’d count on it.” Comment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Glad it’s not just me!
Okay, good night for sure now–go to bed, Zooey!:D
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 amNite Zooey
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 amSince he was sworn in on Jan 20,2001, it sort of follows that he was elected in 2000. It ain’t rocket science, wc. ;)
Comment by upright left — July 3, 2007 @ 12:44 am
Yeah, but they also tell us he was “sworn in for a second term on January 20, 2005″ after going out of their way to tell us that he was “re-elected on November 2nd, 2004.”
The fact that he was sworn in for a second term in 2005 should “follow” that he was re-elected in 2004, don’t ya think?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 amComment by Jane E. Schneider — July 3, 2007 @ 12:56 am
Goodnight, Jane!
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:59 amOooooo…225 posts to go!
Let’s give it a little push…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 amZooey…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 am…is…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 am…great!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 amOkay, good night for sure now–go to bed, Zooey!:D
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Yes, Mom…..geez…..
Goodnight all!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:06 amThank
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:06 amyou
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:07 amYou want to hit 1,000 posts?
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:07 amWC!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:07 amGoodnight, Keith G. :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:08 amLet me one of my posts…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:08 am…one…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:08 am…word…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:08 am…at…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 am…a…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 am…time.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:10 amWhat If Libby Was Black Or Mentally Retarded?
Bob Cesca, 07.02.2007
Regarding the record 152 executions during his two terms as governor , Bush “wrote” in his autobiography, A Charge To Keep, “I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:10 amWe’d be at 10,000 posts in one paragraph. Or about 3 hours of posting time, with the allowed time between posts :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:10 amThe fact that he was sworn in for a second term in 2005 should “follow†that he was re-elected in 2004, don’t ya think?
Comment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Good writers know they need to vary the language rather than repeating word for word when describing a repeated event. Nothing sinister there. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:11 amAnd yes, I am totally making fun of myself. I know that when I am writing in real-time that my posts tend to go on longer than I intend. I also tend to repeat one of my points. Did I mention that I repeat myself sometimes?
One of the first signs of mental health is the ability to laugh at yourself. :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:12 amWhat If Libby Was Black Or Mentally Retarded?
Bob Cesca, 07.02.2007
Regarding the record 152 executions during his two terms as governor , Bush “wrote” in his autobiography, A Charge To Keep, “I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:13 am“I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own.â€
Comment by JoeySoCal — July 3, 2007 @ 1:10 am
He didn’t replace the verdict of a jury. He overrode the decision of the judge. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:14 amI’m off to go trolling for Amoebas. Anyone interested?
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:15 amWell almost 800 posts on here. You have to pass 1,000 to get the TP record for posting on a thread.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:17 amComment by upright left — July 3, 2007 @ 12:44 am
How about something like……
George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. In an unusual, yet historical, election process beginning on November 7, 2000, the results from the state of Florida were contested for several weeks. Mr. Bush was eventually declared the winner on December 11, 2000 by that state’s Secretary of State after the United States Supreme Court stopped the recount process. He was sworn into office on January 20, 2001 etc…etc…etc.
You know, the truth as it really happened. In these days of political correctness, what I’ve suggested for the text doesn’t take sides.
But as we know, Bush *cough* occasionally *cough* has a little problem with the truth.
(I may be off on the date in December, but you get the idea…)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:19 amRUNE : ING : BEGINNINGS
“Equal justice under the law.” Long we lived under the illusion that this was a guiding principle of the United States of America.
Today, that illusion ended. And some gladly embrace the fact that there exists two systems of justice: one for the rich and powerful, the well-connected few; the other, for the rest of us.
While we may play out the system, and put to trial the high and mighty, they will ultimately remind us that they are in power to stay, and whatever judgments the rule of law imposes upon them can be set aside.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:21 amIn case you wish to send him flowers, here is where Libby rests his head:
Current Owner(s): LIBBY, I LEWIS
GRANT, HARRIET
Previous Owner(s):
Address: 670 LIVE OAK DR
Zip Code: 22101
County/City: Fairfax County
Area: Mclean
Building Size: 4,234
Exterior Type: Wood
Bedrooms: 4
Bathrooms: 3
Half Baths: 1
Heating Type: Heat Pump
Occupancy Category: OWNER OCCUPIED
Total Assessed Value: $1,213,250
Assessed Land Value: $427,000
Assessed Improvement Value: $786,250
Latest Sale Price: $678,000
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:22 amLatest Sale Date: 12/30/99
Deed Book/Page: 08258/0859
check this out… happened on it just now…
another opinion… somewhat unexpected, from tweety…
ON LIBBY: REPUBLICAN INCONSISTENCY AND THE TRUE TRAGEDY
http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/02/254394.aspx
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July 3rd, 2007 at 1:22 ami can’t stick around for 1000, but i’ve no doubt it will get there…
g’nite all…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:22 am802- remove spaces in link.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 amComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Your post is true, as is what already appears. I don’t think your post would be the best start to a bio, though. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:26 amAnother point, and it may have already been mentioned in the above 800+ posts.
Bush has the power to commute the sentence, granted. But it’s not an all-or-nothing proposition. Bush said that Scooter’s sentence was too harsh.
Well, what about Martha Stewart? She was convicted on fewer counts, and the underlying harm was only $40k, yet she served 5 months. Wasn’t that too harsh, given her years of public service as an icon to the American homemaker?
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 amComment by CIA Agent — July 3, 2007 @ 1:22 am
Buddy, it’s a darn good thing ya didn’t post that info about a liberal public figure. You would have gotten 30 or so immediate posts saying you are some kind of sick stalker. You should be ok since it’s conservative. Just be careful of that in the future. ;)
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:30 amJudge Walton was appointed by W, wasn’t he?
And the judge that ruled Monday against the appeal (along with two others), David Sentelle, let off Ollie North and is somewhere to the right of Atilla the Hun.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:30 amUNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRITOR is the only phrase that comes to mind when I think of our President now. SHAMEFUL!!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:32 amGood writers know they need to vary the language rather than repeating word for word when describing a repeated event. Nothing sinister there. ;)
Comment by upright left — July 3, 2007 @ 1:11 am
Bullshit. The defining moment in any President’s term (or terms) is his success at winning the first term. Bush’s avoidance (I’m sure he approved the version appearing on the WH web site) of any reference to the election of Nov. 7, 2000, is telling. But that’s my opinion.
I took a sampling from the WH archives. In all these past presidents’ bios, their first terms are specifically referenced:
Reagan:
Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of Americans in Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan won 489 electoral votes to 49 for President Jimmy Carter.
Bush I:
In 1988 Bush won the Republican nomination for President and, with Senator Dan Quayle of Indiana as his running mate, he defeated Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis in the general election.
Clinton:
Clinton was elected Arkansas Attorney General in 1976, and won the governorship in 1978. After losing a bid for a second term, he regained the office four years later, and served until he defeated incumbent George Bush and third party candidate Ross Perot in the 1992 presidential race.
George Washington:
When the new Constitution was ratified, the Electoral College unanimously elected Washington President.
Eisenhower:
“I like Ike” was an irresistible slogan; Eisenhower won a sweeping victory.
Nixon:
In 1968, he again won his party’s nomination, and went on to defeat Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey and third-party candidate George C. Wallace.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 amRegarding the record 152 executions during his two terms as governor , Bush “wrote†in his autobiography, A Charge To Keep, “I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own.â€
Comment by JoeySoCal — July 3, 2007 @ 1:13 am
Never let it be said that Bush is anything but a hypocrite. But then, many of us already knew that. Anyone who labels themselves as a conservative who…
a) In one term turns the country’s largest national surplus into its largest national debt;
b) Enters any war of aggression. (Whatsoever. I mean, really. What real conservative believes in imperialism? Imperialism is the exact opposite ideal as maintaining the status quo. Imperialism runs quite contrary to strengthening national defense. You cannot strengthen national security by making more enemies. Duh.);
c) Indulges in class warfare. (Conservatives believe in an actual free market. It is absolutely impossible to have a free market, much less a HEALTHY free market, if every citizen is not able to take part in the free market. Every citizen in this country who makes lower than a living wage is not contributing to the strengthening of our economy. They are not investing in our collective future, and they are not being allowed to speak their mind in the market with their wealth. They are, in fact, given no opportunities to move up the economic ladder without resorting to crime. The “socialism” that so-called conservatives today fear, and spew on and on about, would not exist if every citizen in this country made at the bare minimum a living wage.);
d) Blatantly disregards the Rule of Law in favor of nepotism and cronyism.
…is in no way, shape or form a conservative.
A lying, conniving bastard? Perhaps. A hypocrite of the highest magnitude? Most assuredly.
Sorry, you treacherous bastards. You may think you are patriotic, but you are not. You are nationalistic. Like the Germans were, pre-World War II. Party above country. Country above morality. Personal views, positions of power, and corporate power held above the Rule of Law. Fascists in the literal sense of the word. You are selling America a corporate state. You are everything our Founding Fathers fought to escape.
You may think you are patriotic, but you are not. You are supporting a group of people that are systematically dismantling the United States of America.
A traitor by any other name would smell as rank.
Bush is pretty damned ripe, right about now.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:36 amSusan Macdougal actually spent 22 months in jail because she refused to lie about Bill Clinton over the non-crime of Whitewater.
A federal court later found her not guilty. But she spent 22 months in jail. Libby: zero months for treason.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:37 amI don’t think your post would be the best start to a bio, though. ;)
Comment by upright left — July 3, 2007 @ 1:26 am
Not saying what is there is not the truth.
As to my post not being the best way to start a bio, why not?
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:40 amComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 1:35 am
Clarification…in reference to the other presidents in my post above, I meant to say that there is reference to the elections that began their first terms.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:43 amGuys and gals, I’m off to bed. Will type to you later today.
G’nite!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 am#807-
Do you know of any liberal public figures who were convicted of obstructing an investigation into the leak of one of our assets? If you do, I’ll post their address as well.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:46 amComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 1:19 am
How about this:
The Reign of Our Bush began on 01/01/01; on the first day of the first month of the first year of Our Bush. All recorded history begins with 1/1/1, as this was the Day Our Bush created the heavens and the earth, and all the living creatures that walk the dry land, that swim in the seas, and that fly in the air.
The First and Greatest of all Gods is Our Bush. Next to Him is Our Dick, for Our Dick sprang to life out of the mouth of Our Bush when Our Bush thus spake, “Let there be Dick.” And there was Dick. And Bush liked Dick, and gave unto Him his right hand, to be seated thereupon for all eternity.
And so it came to pass that Bush and Dick together created the World, which explains why it’s so f#cked!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:47 amIts amazing at the beginning of a thread how the passions run high and hard.The second a troll posts, so many people waste so much time chasing his bait and losing sight of the original rage. Trolls will never go away kids,if ya feed em. So try this,if ya feel the need to respond to the bait just type…..F#ck You Bush.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 amOK…one more post.
Picked this up via crooksandliars.com. Chris Matthews weighs in…a few excerpts:
More here:
http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/02/254394.aspx
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — July 3, 2007 @ 1:47 am
Beats the hell out of mine! I like!
Now, I am really going to bed.
Really.
I mean it.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:56 amEyeballing Libby’s abode:
http://tinyurl.com/32hldz
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:58 amKKKlinton did it too!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:59 amUpdate X says it best.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:01 amWorried about getting ratted out by the rat that gets a “Get out of Jail Free” card.
MoFos, we aren’t done with you yet.
Cllliinton deeeeeed iiitttt toooooooo
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:02 amClinton,
he did it too!!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:03 amLewis Libby was railroaded by a justice system run amok, bent on “getting Bush”, “getting Cheney”, “getting somebody”, then “getting anybody”. They went after the entire administration, and you were all salivating over bringing the whole Bush administration down, and the best they could come up with was a second-rate lying charge? The humour here is wonderful!
You people on the kook fringe left are comical in your continuous railing against Bush. You only need to look at your do-nothing reform congress, which sports the lowest congressional approval rating in history (a full 10 points lower than President Bush), to see what your future holds.
Lewis Libby got a commuted sentence, thankfully he won’t be doing any jail time. He should have gotten a full pardon.
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July 3rd, 2007 at 2:16 am#824
Oh stop it! I’m laughing so hard at your attempt to sound like an out-of-the-mainstream, clueless, wingnut wackjob! You really nailed it! Not one thing you wrote is true!!
You even got the troll talking point down about the low congressional approval rating- you ignore the fact people are unhappy with congress because they want the war stopped, and Bush impeached. Just like the real trolls who ignore that point!
Good job.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:21 amCCLLLiiIInnnntooon,
HHhhe deeeeeeeEEEDDdd IIIiiiiiTTTT ttttTTTTooooooOOOOOoooo
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:22 amHe likes his friends to write him letters of support:
I. Lewis (Convicted Felon) Libby
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:24 am670 Live Oak Dr.
McLean, VA 22101
re# 825
When the Jack Nicholson character in “The Shining” typed like that, it was proof of his insanity—or being taken over by evil spirits.
Gee, I bet you righties were really complaining when Susan Macdougal actually served 22 months.
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July 3rd, 2007 at 2:25 amEver consider that congressional approval might be low because the vast majority of the public is TO THE LEFT of Congress?
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July 3rd, 2007 at 2:28 amI think we broke it. Poor thing.
Ahh, spam, and incessant screaming. The final bastion of the debunked, and intellectually destroyed.
On the bright side, at least we know we hit a real nerve, eh? It’s completely out of coherent points, and is effectively putting its virtual fingers into its virtual ears and virtually screaming, “la la la la la, I CAN’T HEAR YOU! la la la la la!”
*pat pat* Bedtime for bonzo.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 amComment by Moderation — July 3, 2007 @ 2:32 am
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:33 amDepends on what your definition of “is” is.
re #834
When Clinton said that he was clarifying that “is” means present tense and sense he no longer had a relationship with Monica, it was past tense, and therefore the answer was “no”.
I realize that is too much for simple-minded conservatives to fathom.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:40 amComment by Keith G. — July 3, 2007 @ 2:40 am
So what you’re saying is… that Clinton used sophistry to weasel his way out of an apparent contradiction.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:42 amSLeEP WElL mY LEfTY FRiENDs!!! YoU HAVe MOrE DIsApPOINtMEnT TO LoOK FOrWARd TO ToMORrOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:44 amVOTE CHENEY 2008!!! †
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:44 amNo matter, CIA Agent, I stand by my statement. You call me a “troll” because I disagree with you? I thought you libs were the standard-bearers of free speech? Yet another liberal lie? Or merely a lie of the kook fringe?
Everything I wrote is completely true. Thinking people know that. The mainstream does not want Bush impeached. The mainstream wants the U.S. to succeed with our Iraq mission. The mainstream wants an effective congress that actually deals with issues and solves problems, rather than merely bickering with each other, fighting the President, and making “sound bite” statements merely to get in print or on the news. The mainstream wants cheap gasoline, to come home from work and have a good steak dinner, and then watch “American Idol” on T.V.
If you Bush haters over here were effective at all, I would be worried. As it is, I am merely amused.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:44 amI’ll also address it before you do and say that since Clinton was using the prosecuter’s definition of sexual relations (which did not include anything he and Monica did) when he said he did not have sexual relations with her——–he was telling the truth.
A federal judge ruled that his testimony was immaterial to the Jones case, so either way, it could not be perjury nor obstruction of justice.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:46 amComment by O. Bigfoot — July 3, 2007 @ 2:44 am
…Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:46 amThose who think having an affair is an impeachable offense know nothing of our constitution.
They just have a problem with personal sexual repression..
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:49 amThe mainstream wants the U.S. to succeed with our Iraq mission.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
11% want increase in troops
17% want same number of troops
26% want decrease in troops
40% want removal of all troops
Also consider that 40% of above respondents probably believe the lie that Iraq was involved in 9/11 attacks.
Democratic Congress did not even say “remove all troops” !!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:55 amIf you Bush haters over here were effective at all, I would be worried. As it is, I am merely amused.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 3, 2007
What is Bush effective at? I mean besides the destruction of the USA and the entire Middle East?
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:58 amSo what you’re saying is… that Clinton used sophistry to weasel his way out of an apparent contradiction.
Comment by Mr. President — July 3, 2007 @ 2:42 am
Be honest Mr. President, what would you do if you had an affair and were being asked questions about it? Would you parse your words? What if telling the absolute truth hurt your wife and daughter?
Remember, we are not talking about lying our way into a war that costs one million lives, $2.3 Trillion and made us LESS SAFE.
July 3rd, 2007 at 3:12 amThe mainstream wants cheap gasoline…
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 3, 2007 @ 2:44 am
That’s good enough reason right there to hate Bush. I was in NC during the 1992 campaign. Gas was $0.95 per gallon. Clinton said he might impose a $0.05 per gallon gas tax if elected. Every Republican in the country went berzerk!!! Eight years later in NC, gas was about $0.95 per gallon.
Compare that and the past 6.5 years with Bush taking every action he can think of to raise gas prices. In case you didn’t know, he is in bed with the oil corps.
July 3rd, 2007 at 3:26 amTis no different than JFK appointing RFK to Atty General. All is fair in love and politics. What is the difference? The same feeling of helplessness was felt then as it is now in the Libby commutation.
But the bigger question is, just what are you Democrats going to do about it?
As I thought. Not one damn thing. You are powerless. Clinton issued some pretty controversial pardons and commutations too if memory serves correctly.
So get over it hapless ones, commutations and pardons are part of the new political landscape we find ourselves in these days thanks to Slick Willy Clinton.
So, tell me then, how does it feel to be powerless at such a seemingly atrocious injustice as the Libby commutation?
July 3rd, 2007 at 3:31 amON THE OTHER HAND!
What about commuting his sentence? Are you getting the picture folks?
Fool you once, shame on them.
July 3rd, 2007 at 4:24 amFool you twice, shame on you.
Fool you thrice, Helloooooo?
Lewis Libby got a commuted sentence, thankfully he won’t be doing any jail time. He should have gotten a full pardon.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Bush and Cheney are TRAITORS who need to be tortured at Gitmo
July 3rd, 2007 at 4:38 amLibby was the Small Fish
Bush really Commuted the Sentences of Rove and Cheney
George H. W. Bush called those who leak the names of CIA operatives “the most insidious of traitors.”
Scott McClellan, said:
“If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:44 amO. Bigfoot- Wow, you really are full of crap! Why don’t you go grovel at the feet of your traitor heros, directly from our files:
KARL C ROVE
4925 WEAVER TER NW
WASHINGTON DC 20016
ALBERTO R. GONZALES
1500 Laurel Hill Rd
VIENNA, VA 22182
JOHN D NEGROPONTE
4936 Lowell St. WASHINGTON DC 20016
JOHN R BOLTON 628 E Capitol St WASHINGTON DC 20003
PHONE NUMBERS FOR THIS ADDRESS
202-544-2439
202-547-2312
202-548-0076
PORTER J GOSS
3869 W Gulf Dr (Residence)
SANIBEL, FL 33957
PORTER J GOSS, 65
123 D Street (Residence)
WASHINGTON, DC 20003
CONDOLEEZZA RICE
2950 VAN NESS NW 903
WASHINGTON, DC 20008
Michael Chertoff
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:54 am15 Olde Town Ct, Bernardsville, NJ
I publish these addresses as a public service. Most mail sent to these individuals offices’ never actually reach them. I find that using their home address gets much better results. These addresses are a matter of public records.
For best results, send your letter via registered mail. They are almost sure to get it. That’s because, in theory, no one is stupid enough to send threats using registered mail. Please don’t do anything stupid like that.
BTW way, if you drive by the homes, you’ll see that Libby’s and others are pretty damn impressive. a $250,000 fine is less then a slap on the wrist.
July 3rd, 2007 at 6:27 amComment by shame
Throw yourself in the trash, shame. Miss the crazy frat days, huh?
God you’re the typical old redundant fool.
Using your logic, you have crazed sex parties with FART&PEE and TripMaster Monkey, or seek to do so.
Wingnut.
July 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 am250,000 dollars? Who cares? The guy will have tons of cash left most probably anyways.
So………………
What’s next?
July 3rd, 2007 at 7:49 amSo, in today’s justice system, you can go to prison for driving on a suspended license, however you can lie and impede justice and get your sentence commuted? We are truly living in Bizarro world where evil triumphs over good.
July 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 amComment by Keith G. — July 3, 2007 @ 2:49 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:10 amComment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 3, 2007 @ 7:17 am
Oh, Hey there Dean!
I’m about to head out to class, what are you doing up so early?
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:11 amComment by Keith G. — July 3, 2007 @ 2:55 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:11 amComment by Keith G. — July 3, 2007 @ 2:58 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:12 amComment by Keith G. — July 3, 2007 @ 3:12 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 amComment by Keith G. — July 3, 2007 @ 3:26 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 amComment by WhichTruth — July 3, 2007 @ 4:24 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:14 amNot only did Clinton do it, he did it many times and for terrorists.
Here is a list for those of you who forget
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
ROTFL
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:15 amComment by Bush and Cheney need to be tortured at Gitmo — July 3, 2007 @ 4:38 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:15 amHere is a list for those of you who forget
http://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
ROTFL
Comment by Happy Guy — July 3, 2007 @ 8:15 am
Yes.
Clinton, he did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 amhttp://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 amhttp://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 amWhile most Democrats might not realize it;
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:35 amBush, Cheney & Co. get their strength from a weak Congress run by Democrats.
Comment by tarazan — July 3, 2007 @ 8:35 am
Yes, yes, and Clinton… he did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 amComment by drew_ill — July 3, 2007 @ 7:54 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:41 amComment by Drima @ The Sudanese Thinker — July 3, 2007 @ 7:49 am
Well…
…Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 amClemency grant for Libby shows how the President has maximized the efficiency of the federal government. The Executive branch of the government is also part of the legislitlative, courtesy of signing statements. This combines two branches in one. Now the Executive is also part of the Judicial, courtesy of the clemency grant. Well, it looks like this Executive is well into his one-man re-write of the constitution. For what its worth, I’m writing my senators and representitive and hoping that Congress wakes up and stops the unitary Executive while there’s still time.
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 amComment by CIA Agent — July 3, 2007 @ 6:27 am
Yes, I know. I live down the street from him.
Guess what?
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:43 amComment by Leporello — July 3, 2007 @ 8:42 am
Yes!!!
FULL PARDON 4 LIBBY!!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 amIt’s official:
Republican now means The party of Won’t Take Responsibility.
Add this to:
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 amRepublican: the Big Government Party.
Republican: the Fiscally Irresponsibile Party.
Republican: the Pro-War for the Sake of War Party.
Republican: the Pro-Business over Citizens Rights Party.
Republican: the Shut the Hell Up Party.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 8:44 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:46 amIt’s funny hearing the whiney trolls complain about Pres. Clinton’s pardons.
When you look at the number of pardon requests compared to the pardons granted, Pres. Clinton granted about 20% pardons he received.
Pres. Reagan granted about 20% pardons he received.
So, Pres. Clinton seems to be in the same category as Pres. Reagan in the pardon department! (Now lets hear from the whiney trolls. . . . .)
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:49 am#875 – Comment by Mr. President — July 3, 2007 @ 8:46 am
Pres. Reagan did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 amLewis Libby got a commuted sentence, thankfully he won’t be doing any jail time. He should have gotten a full pardon.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 3, 2007 @ 2:13 am
And you have no respect for our justice system. People like you want to throw out the Libby case simply because you disagree with it. Yet you would have personally shown up to escort Clinton from the White House simply because he lied about a consentual sexual affair. Right?
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 amComment by Keith G. — July 3, 2007 @ 3:26 am
I remember when Clinton did raise the fed gas tax by 4 cents. The Republicans went nuts. Yet 2 short weeks after he raised it, gas at many local stations in our area had dropped 6 cents. So the end result was that the price was 2 cents lower compared to the price BEFORE Clinton raised the tax.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:03 am#868..
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:13 amWhen was the last time a president commuted a sentence or pardoned one of his convicted staff member..? Did Clinton pardon one of his staff members who committed crimes?
Libby was implementing Bush’s policies….That’s the difference.
#396
Reid’s approval rating is at 19%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/harry_reid_s_favorables_fall_to_19
Pelosi’s is at 39%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/pelosi_39_favorable
“Also, seperately, the results could mean that the American people are to the LEFT of the Democratic leadership in Congress.”
In your dreams! LOL! You can’t get much more left that Pelosi…unless you are full blown asshole socialist.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 am#462
Libby and Clinton did the same thing, i.e. swear under oath…….
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 am#881 – The difference is:
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:29 amPres. Clinton lied about sex.
Libby lied about treason.
#550
“Rich didn’t risk our national security and coverup the illegal actions of the administration – Libby did.”
It hasn’t been proven that the Bush administration is the entity or person that outed Plame. Armitage did. That’s a proven fact. The only thing Clinton did was buy justice, multiple times too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:33 am#602
I heard Clinton launched some cruise missles at an empty al Qaeda camp in order to cover up his affair with an ugly fat intern.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 am#670
Clinton married Hilary and produced his daughter only to further his political career.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:45 amI see you guys managed to cause Mr. President to *snap* last night. This is what happens when you feed him after midnight.
Breaking what’s already broken might not be a crime, but you all should be ashamed of yourselves. ;)
I gotta get some stuff done….I’ll check in later.
Tell Zooey I said, “Hi”
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 am#729
Clinton’s didn’t raise their daughter.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 am#767
On his mistresses.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:54 am#770
Exit poll done by Democrats are accurate when polling democrat voters
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:56 am#887 – “Clinton’s didn’t raise their daughter.” Comment by Tracy — July 3, 2007 @ 9:50 am
And were supposed to take your word for this? Why? Because you’ve never been wrong ever before?
Until you show proof, you’re lying. Just like your Pres. Bush does all the time.
PS – Moving out of Texas on the 10th! Can’t wait!
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:59 am#883
Yes, I am aware that you are in full support of moral relativism. You probably think that stealing a piece of gum is not as bad as stealing $100 dollars. Pathetic.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:00 amhuh… it didn’t get to 1000 last night… i am surprised…
tracy – you know what they say,
as long as you’re not answering yourself… oh wait…
funny how you always come along when the thread is dead…
…
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:02 amNote to Think Progress. I am annoyed with the regurgitation evidenced by the word “Spare” in your lead sentence: “President Bush has spared Scooter Libby from a 2½-year prison term.” That is laziness and you’re not alone. Democracy Now! did the same this morning. I understand that this is the term being used by the Big Media conglomerates. But is that what has happened here? Like, a man sitting on death row who was convicted 20 years ago on questionable evidence gets spared? No! Bush spared himself and his enablers by removing the investigation’s ability to coerce in order to get at the truth, which truth likely implicates the Vice-President and perhaps the President himself. To say that Bush “spared” Libby connotes an act of compassion. This was no act of compassion in the furtherance of justice. This was an act of “cover your ass.”
While I’ve resigned myself to being subjected to such bullsh*t from the conglomerates, I hold Think Progress to a higher standard. Please let your loyal readers know if we are wrong to hold TP to such a standard.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 am#891
“And were supposed to take your word for this? Why? Because you’ve never been wrong ever before?”
Hey Zooey made the unproven claim that the Clinton’s DID raise Chelsea. I figured I could make that claim that they didn’t.
“PS – Moving out of Texas on the 10th! Can’t wait!”
Excellent!…I feel better already.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 amIt is well known that the CLintons personally raised Chelsea, and if you were older than 10, you’d know that, as it was frequent news item how the Clintons opted against nanny’s and baby sitters, and instead chose to be personally involved in their daughters upbringing.
Anyone over 30 would remember that.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 amOf course, I can’t really blame the Bushs.
Who’d want to raise those two little brats?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 am“And you have no respect for our justice system. People like you want to throw out the Libby case simply because you disagree with it. Yet you would have personally shown up to escort Clinton from the White House simply because he lied about a consentual sexual affair. Right?
Comment by WC”
Clinton was in no danger of losing his freedom, he was merely in danger of losing his job, yet he held onto his job as President. (Yes, I would have shown up to personally escort Clinton from the White House).
Lewis Libby actually DID lose his job, and was on the verge of jail time. Your comparison is less than meaningless because by merely losing his job, Lewis Libby was already punished further than Clinton ever was for the same crime.
I’m not saying Libby should get his job back. If he lied, he lied. Besides, he’ll make more money in the private sector, and not have to face partisan political attacks-In short, he’s better off. No one had heard of Lewis Libby before the “witch hunt” began. Now he’ll write a book and it will sell.
“The difference is:
Pres. Clinton lied about sex.
Libby lied about treason.
Comment by Democrat Soldier”
Remember folks: As much as you are in denial over this, the Prosecutor could find no evidence of an underlying crime being commited. Case Closed. You can wish and hope all day long that Bush and Cheney were involved, but they were not. Case Closed. G.W. Bush and Richard Cheney are still Prez and V.P. Case Closed.
No crime=No treason. You can lie all you want, but that don’t make it the truth. Case Closed.
Live with it.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 amPS – Moving out of Texas on the 10th! Can’t wait!
Comment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 9:59 am
Free at last.
Just curious though, is Texass still a state?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 am#900 – Ahh! OK, I see where you’re going with that. I quess my still being at work for my last three business days has my brain working slower than normal. ;-)
Can’t wait for my move to be over! Also, looking forward to the new job!
How’s life going for you?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 amRemember folks: As much as you are in denial over this, the Prosecutor could find no evidence of an underlying crime being commited. Case Closed.
Comment by O. Bigmouth— July 3, 2007 @ 10:40 am
Wrong Matlock. If you could read, you’d have read that the prosecutor didn’t say that. Instead he said that Scooter “the rat” Libby, blocked him from seeing the underlying crime, by, as he put it in his summary, “throwing sand in his face”.
You inbreds can’t read, but that ok. When the headlines come out, IMPEACHED”, we’ll be sure to put it in caps.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:44 am#903 – “You can lie all you want, but that don’t make it the truth. Case Closed. ”
So, you agree. Pres. Clinton was accused of no crime at all whatsoever. Exactly the same as Libby.
Wow! how “progressive” of you to admit the truth!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:44 amCase Closed.
Live with it.
Comment by O. Bigshit — July 3, 2007 @ 10:40 am
You wish.
This case is far from closed.
Live with it.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 am#904 – “Just curious though, is Texass still a state?” Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 10:41 am
It’s a state of delusion! ;-)
Actually, I enjoyed my time in the Austin area. It’s the only place in Texas that has refused to swig the neo-con kool-aide, and has retained their independant mindset that the rest of Texas has gladly given up to the Republican Party of “Shut Up and Believe What We Tell You To Believe!”
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 amIt’s a state of delusion! ;-)
Actually, I enjoyed my time in the Austin area. It’s the only place in Texas that has refused to swig the neo-con kool-aide, and has retained their independant mindset that the rest of Texas has gladly given up to the Republican Party of “Shut Up and Believe What We Tell You To Believe!â€
Comment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 10:46 am
I see, I see.
I just thought they had seceded from the Union, what with the Bush compound and all… you know, became a third world mini nation of its own or something.
Last I heard the Texas National Guard was getting ready to invade Mexico.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 amIt was reported that from his Crawford Ranch, Bush announced that he’d “leave no stone unturned to bring that Santa Anna fella to justice“.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 amYou can’t get much more left that Pelosi…unless you are full blown asshole socialist.
Comment by Tracy — July 3, 2007 @ 9:24 am
In a political aptitude quiz, I scored to the left of Ghandi.
Please describe the belief systems of a “full blown asshole socialist.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 amWhat you are saying is that if obstruction of justice is successful, the results are “no harm, no foul” because the underlying crime cannot be prosecuted. In other words,
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 am
No matter, CIA Agent, I stand by my statement. You call me a “troll†because I disagree with you? I thought you libs were the standard-bearers of free speech? Yet another liberal lie? Or merely a lie of the kook fringe?
Calling you a troll has nothing to do with taking away your right to free speech. Whine about something else.
If you Bush haters over here were effective at all, I would be worried. As it is, I am merely amused.
Ahhhh but we are effective. The Prez has an approval rating of around 30% and a majority of America wants the troops brought home.
And I must say that I laugh when anyone on the right whines about “Bush haters.” Seems we had our share of Clinton haters in the 1990’s, some of which were calling for his impeachment not long after he took office in 1993.
As Bush would say: “Heh heh.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 amLewis Libby actually DID lose his job…
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 3, 2007 @ 10:40 am
No, he resigned from his position in the White House to fight the charges against him. There is a difference. Besides, he saved Bush from having to keep his promise to fire anyone convicted of a crime. As if he would have followed through.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:00 pmStill no case against this Administration. Get over it. I don’t have to agree with everything the Bush administration does, and I don’t. But you Bush haters need to think about being constructive, not destructive. However, I don’t think it’s in your mental make-up to be constructive. Some folks thrive on hate. One only needs to read the stuff on this website to see that.
“Wrong Matlock. If you could read, you’d have read that the prosecutor didn’t say that. Instead he said that Scooter “the rat†Libby, blocked him from seeing the underlying crime, by, as he put it in his summary, “throwing sand in his faceâ€.
Comment by BARTLEBEE”
Wrong yet again. If Libby was all they had after all that time and investigation, the case was weak to non-existant to say the least. You can go on in your delusional state, however.
And all you rabid Bush haters: Keep ranting, by all means! You lose more of your credibilty with the majority of regular folks every time you talk.
There will be no impeachment. There will be no convictions of substance. Just more of the same nonsense from the folks grasping at straws.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 pmComment by Tracy — July 3, 2007 @ 9:24 am
And from the same polling organization, we find this:
Democrats Trusted More Than Republicans on 10 Key Issues.
Those key issues include:
Key:
Issue
Dem %
Rep %
% in favor of Dem
Nat’l Security
46%
43%
+3
Taxes
47%
42%
+5
Abortion
45%
38%
+7
Economy
48%
40%
+8
Ethics & Corruption
43%
32%
+11
War in Iraq
49%
37%
+12
Immigration
47%
33%
+14
Education
50%
35%
+15
Soc. Security
50%
34%
+16
Healthcare
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 pm57%
30%
+27
So much for personal accountability.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 pm“No, he resigned from his position in the White House to fight the charges against him. There is a difference. Besides, he saved Bush from having to keep his promise to fire anyone convicted of a crime. As if he would have followed through.
Comment by WC”
Same thing, no difference. He did the honorable thing when his credibility was shattered and his effectiveness as a public servant was over. Spin it as you will, WC. No matter. The truth is out there for folks who actually want to look. Believe me, it’s not coming from the rabid, anti-Bush left.
Sure my words may fall on deaf ears here. Some folks don’t want to think, they just want to hate. But truth is truth for those who actually utilize their grey matter.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 pmAnd what can we be assured of under continued Republican leadership?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
#920 – Don’t forget more dismantling of the US Constitution, brought to you by Pres. Bush, the Republican Pary, and the neo-con cabal that has infiltrated the courts and our country!
Why do neo-cons hate the US as much as they apparantly do?!?!?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 pmWrong yet again. If Libby was all they had after all that time and investigation, the case was weak to non-existant to say the least.
Comment by O. Bullshit — July 3, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
Says the criminal to the court.
See, what our friend, mr Bigmouth here is saying is Bris is right. If you can’t prove it, then it didn’t happen.
Of course by this morally bankrupt crooks logic, Al Capone wasn’t a bad guy at all. After all, the Government NEVER was able to “PROVE” he did any of the horrific crimes we all knew he was guilty of.
And of course, what this 4th grade dropout doesn’t remember, is that the Government did finally get Capone. But not for the crimes he was guilty of.
Instead, a US Treasury Agent by the name of Elliot Ness, got him on “Tax Evasion”.
Criminals who go to great lengths to distance themselves from crimes, are often brought down by smaller things, just like that peice of shit Libby was, and just like that peice of shit Bush will be.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 pmThere will be no convictions of substance. Just more of the same nonsense from the folks grasping at straws.
Comment by O. Dumbass — July 3, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
The exact same words Al Capones lawyers shouted, right before they stuck his ass in prison for the rest of his worthless life.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pmthe rabid, anti-Bush left.
Sure my words may fall on deaf ears here. Some folks don’t want to think, they just want to hate. But truth is truth for those who actually utilize their grey matter.
Comment by O. Bigsnoot — July 3, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
Anti Bush left ay?
Well, considering over 80 percent of the country is AGAINST pardoning Libby, thats a pretty big Anti-Bush left.
Guess you guys are in trouble.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pmCapone was released from jail after syphilis ravaged his mind. Perhaps that is the real reason that Scooter was also kept out of jail.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — July 3, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
Speaking for myself, and I know others here feel the same way, I don’t hate Bush; I hate what he and his administration have done in 7 years.
First and foremost is the war in Iraq. We have heard no fewer than 8 reasons from Bush as to why we invaded Iraq. And all these reasons weren’t given prior to the invasion. No…Bush gave them whenever the previous reason(s) no longer held favor with the American people. One of the reasons he gave was that we had to rescue the Iraqi people from an evil dictator. No, Mr. Bush, we did not. As you told us during your campaign in 2000, America does not need to be the policemen of the world. And before you say anything, I don’t want to hear “But…but…Clinton did it too!.” The fact that Clinton did it…did anything…does not, and should not, give automatic approval to the presidents who succeed him, to do the same thing. As evil as Saddam was, it was none of our business. Just the same as it’s none of any other country’s business regarding our affairs, and I’m sure, O. Bigfoot, you’ll agree with this.
And if you are of the opinion that Clinton didn’t do anything to prevent 9/11, then the same can be said of Bush, because Condi Rice is on record as saying that the Bush administration, it its first few months leading up to 9/11, did at least as much to track terrorists as Clinton did.
As for Saddam being a threat to his neighbors and America, Colin Powell and Condi Rice both said just the opposite in 2001, several months prior to 9/11. Powell and Rice both made statements that he was not a threat and that his military was weak. Powell went on to state that Iraq had been contained, the sanctions against him were working as planned (and had been reworked in order to remain effective), and Saddam did not have the capability nor the capacity to produce WMDs. I’ve got their quotes if you’d be interested in reading their words for yourself, but I doubt you’d be interested.
And speaking of WMDs, we recall Rumsfeld stating that “we” knew exactly where they were located in Iraq, going so far as to give us specific locations, only to say several years later when confronted with his own words: “I didn’t say that.”
We also know that from former Sec. of Homeland Defense Tom Ridge, the Bush administration often raised the terror threat level over Mr. Ridge’s objections, because he said the evidence was too weak. And speaking of threats, I’m sure you recall Cheney warning America that we’d surely be attacked again if Kerry won the presidency in 2004. Be afraid, Mr. and Mrs. Amerca…be very afraid.
And let’s not forget Kerry suggesting to Bush that he use the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to help out with gas prices in 2004, only to be rejected by Bush as a method of price control. Yet in 2000 candidate Bush suggested the very same thing to Clinton, and not that long ago actually stopped deposits into the SPR to…what was that?…come on, you can say it with me….lower the price of gasoline.
As for warrantless wiretapping, we know that this government has spied on innocent people, some of which were peaceful anti-war protesters, and it has collected information on ordinary Americans and when caught, could only offer an “oops” and “it won’t happen again.”
Yeah, right.
Bush has no problem going to the FISA court for a warrant to wiretap a domestic call, which could easily involve two terrorists talking to each other, but when pressed to go to FISA when one end of that call is outside of America, oh dear, banish the thought. There’s not enough time. A terrorist might get away. The safety of Americans is at risk. I’ve also got a couple of quotes from Bush that’ll back me up on this. Say it with me: Bush is a hypocrite.
Members of the administration have stated the warrantless wiretapping program is targeted to specific people, yet we have reports that tens of millions of Americans’ calling records have been requested by the NSA. It is also known that Qwest asked for a warrant before turning over their records, and that the government simply walked away. Gee, seems that if the government was really interested in tracking known or suspected terrorists and protecting America, they’d produce the warrant and get on with it.
And spare me the notion that revealing wiretapping programs harms the security of our country and helps the terrorists. Go to CNN.com, search their archives for “Patriot Act,” go to page 38 of the results, and read the article dated 10/8/01 entitled “PC World poll highlights privacy concerns.” Monitoring the communications of the terrorists is hardly a national secret. Let me quote from that article which references a PC World poll:
I don’t recall anyone in the White House or in the Republican-controlled Congress screaming about treason and how CNN and the author of the article was aiding the terrorists.
But one of the few things that really pisses me off is Bush’s response to a scenario regarding the Military Commissions Act, specifically if other countries adopted its provisions, as presented by David Gregory, who basically said:
If one of our troops were captured by an enemy, and they were put on trial and they were convicted based on secret evidence that they were not able to see, how would you react to that as commander in chief?
Bush said that the world would be a better place. In other words, he doesn’t give a damn about the men and women of our military and how they would be treated if the tables were turned.
Bring it on, Bigfoot. I’m just getting started. There’s plenty more hatred for what Bush has done to this country. I want you to defend each and every one of the items I have so far presented. If you cannot defend them, then tell me why you insist that Bush remain as president.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:07 pmSame thing, no difference. He did the honorable thing when his credibility was shattered and his effectiveness as a public servant was over. Spin it as you will, WC. No matter. The truth is out there for folks who actually want to look. Believe me, it’s not coming from the rabid, anti-Bush left.
Sure my words may fall on deaf ears here. Some folks don’t want to think, they just want to hate. But truth is truth for those who actually utilize their grey matter.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 3, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
Sorry…resigning a position is not the same as losing it. If you lose a job, it is generally because you are fired, or dismissed due to performance or other issues, or the job is relocated to India, or the job is being eliminated altogether due to budget reasons, or your services are no longer required (say, a temp position with an employment firm). None of these apply to Scooter.
I’m not spinning it…you are.
As for people thinking, there are plenty of people here who do just that. Sorry that you consider it “hate” just because you don’t agree with it.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:23 pmComment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 8:50 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:34 pmComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 8:55 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:34 pmComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 9:03 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 pmComment by tarazan — July 3, 2007 @ 9:13 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:36 pmComment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 9:29 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:37 pmComment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 9:59 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:38 pmComment by katy — July 3, 2007 @ 10:02 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:39 pmComment by Eskwaya — July 3, 2007 @ 10:03 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:40 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 10:38 am
Clinton did it too,
FART&PEE.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:41 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:42 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 10:41 am
Clinton did it too,
Fartles.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:42 pmComment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 10:43 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:43 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Clinton did it too,
Farty.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 pmComment by WC — July 3, 2007 @ 11:39 am
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:45 pmMore torture.
More indefinite incarcerations.
More death.
More destruction.
More War.
…
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — July 3, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
This is cool.
Clinton didn’t do it though.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:46 pmComment by Democrat Soldier — July 3, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
Clinton did it too
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:47 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Clinton did it too.
FART
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:47 pmBehold the tactics of the scum on the right. You prove them wrong. Very wrong. And in crawls their worm, to post nonsensical gibberish one after the next, to bury the fact that one of its cohorts just got his ass handed to him.
Well here Bigfoot. Here’s a list you can chew on, (on least until this little peice of shit you carry around with you bury’s it with his idiotic rants), of some of those on the “rabid left, who condemned Bush for this corrupt clemency.
We agree that a pardon would have been inappropriate and that the prison sentence of 30 months was excessive. But reducing the sentence to no prison time at all, as Mr. Bush did — to probation and a large fine — is not defensible.
The Washington Post:
But in nixing the prison term, Bush sent a terrible message to citizens and to government officials who are expected to serve the public with integrity
Chicago Tribune:
In commuting the sentence of former White House aide Lewis “Scooter†Libby, President Bush sent the message that perjury and obstruction of justice in the service of the president of the United States are not serious crimes
San Francisco Chronicle:
Nearly a decade ago, a GOP-led House impeached President Bill Clinton for lying under oath and obstructing justice in a civil deposition. Yesterday, a Republican president commuted the sentence of former top White House staffer Lewis “Scooter†Libby, who was convicted of the same thing in a criminal investigation. Republicans are known for being tough on crime.
Apparently there’s an exception when the criminal is a member of President Bush’s inner circle. [
The Dallas Morning News
And heres just a few more from the “rabid left”, who have publically condemned this corrupt act.
Rocky Mountain News
Detroit Free Press
The Denver Post
New York Daily News
New York Times
The Arizona Republic
The Sacramento Bee
The San Jose Mercury News
The Seattle Post Intelligencer
There are plenty more, but this is enough to make the point, that you’re full of shit.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:47 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Clinton did it too,
FART&PEE THE QUEER.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:48 pmRepublicans are known for being tough on crime.
Apparently there’s an exception when the criminal is a member of President Bush’s inner circle.
The Dallas Morning News
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:49 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 3, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Clinton did it too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:49 pmBut in nixing the prison term, Bush sent a terrible message to citizens and to government officials who are expected to serve the public with integrity
The Washington Post:
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:51 pmComment by Mr. President — July 3, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Pres. Reagan did it first! He pardoned more people that Pres. Clinton!
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:51 pmThe really funny thing here DS, is this little peice of shit, who just keeps posting the same insult over and over and over, along with “clinton did it too”, is proving for all to see, that the right wing is completely OUT OF AMMO.
They have zero arguments.
They have zero intelligent people to offer countering opinions.
All they have left is this low down little worm, who has nothing to say and even less brains to say it with.
This “Volksturm” proves that the right is on the ropes, and is finished.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 pm951 – I agree. They’ve got nothing but their tired old talking points that they spout repeatedly.
Basically, the trolls brains drowned in the kool-aide they swig and all they can do is repeat the last talking point they’ve been given.
I wonder when they’ll be given another talking point? It will be obvious, as that will be when their posts change from “(Pres.) Clinton did it!” to something else they’ve been told to repeat.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmmore good news. Govt considers privatiztion of Iraq
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:34 pmhttp://www.rawstory.com/comments/33988.html
#901
Then how can Zooey ignorantly claim that Bush’s didn’t raise their daughters and claim that aides did?
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:46 pm#904
Yes, and it is the only state in the union that could sustain itself if it were to become a country.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:49 pm#905
Great!…and after your announcement it got even b