Chertoff: ‘Lieberman Is Dead Right’ In Calling For Increased Wiretapping
Chertoff: ‘Lieberman Is Dead Right’ In Calling For Increased Wiretapping
Yesterday, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) used the foiled terror attempts in London to call for greater domestic spying in the United States. “I hope these terrorist attacks in London wake us up here in America to stop the petty partisan fighting going on about…electronic surveillance,” Lieberman said, referencing the Senate Judiciary Committee’s recent subpoenas of documents related to Bush’s wiretapping program that the White House has refused to release.
Today, on Fox and Friends, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff echoed Lieberman’s call, arguing that Lieberman was “dead right” in calling for increased domestic surveillance:
CHERTOFF: I’m concerned about losing the tools that I can tell you we use every single day to catch the kind of plotting which we’ve just seen, obviously, give rise to the attempted bombings in London. I think Joe Lieberman is dead right.
Watch it:
British surveillance did not prevent the London attacks. In fact, “[t]here had been no prior intelligence of planned attacks from the terror organization.” Instead, vigilant citizens helped prevent the bombings:
The events unfolded when police were called to Haymarket, south of Piccadilly Circus, after a man fell at the nightclub Tiger Tiger, injuring his head, prompting a call for an ambulance around 1:30 a.m. Friday. When crews arrived, they noticed smoke coming from a green Mercedes parked in front of a club. […]
The announcement of the second bomb came about 20 hours later … [a car] had been towed across town to an impound lot; the attendants there, on the alert after news of the first foiled car bombing, smelled gasoline and alerted authorities.
Currently, the White House is refusing to cooperate with Congress by not explaining why current surveillance methods are insufficient and why it feels it needs even more intrusive spying on American citizens.
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Get a freakin’ court order, you jackasses!
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:34 pmYup be afraid and let us watch everything you do. Don’t worry Big brother will protect you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:36 pmChertoff? Wasn’t this idiot responsible for the Katrina relief failure? Yup, that’s the same idiot. In addition to being a fascist, Chertoff is also a perfect example of the Peter principle.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:37 pmCaption Contest:
Ming the Merciless: I’d much rather see you on my side, than scattered into… atoms.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmNo Chertoff, we’re not going to stand for it anymore. Get your warrants.
BTW — doesn’t Chertoff look like Beaker from the Muppet Show? :-D
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:39 pmFrom the guy who hadn’t thought about the possibility of Katrina. Nothing like a little forethought, asswipe.
Yeah, Chertoff, you are so credible (and you have a pea brain like or president).
Heckovajob, Chackoff. Heckovajob.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pmYes TP lets leave it up to the citizens to provide the tips and be the eyes and ears of our national security and then pray we get lucky.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm“BTW — doesn’t Chertoff look like Beaker from the Muppet Show? :-D”
I’d say he looks more like Skleletor…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmSo then, let’s just forget about the subpoenas and the investigation.
These car bombs defused in London really should show everyone here at home that whatever GWB and company have done and are currently doing is really necessary and the law matters not.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmTerrorists caught.
With no wiretapping.
Chertoff and Lieberman: This provides rationale for wiretapping.
The cream really does rise to the top.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmLet’s start with the wiretapping of Chertoff, Bush, Cheney, et al., put it out on the web, and we’ll go from there. No? Well then… NO! As it is, they can spy all they want - with probably cause and a warrant, even after the fact. If they find it hard doing that, then it only further shows their incompetence.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pm“Yesterday, Sen. Joe Lieberman (R-CT) used the foiled terror attempts in London to call for greater domestic spying in the United States.”
There, I fixed it…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pmMore wiretapping?
Brain dead right maybe.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:43 pmBTW — doesn’t Chertoff look like Beaker from the Muppet Show? :-D
Comment by Zooey
Except he’s missing the “cute” factor, exactly.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:43 pmBTW — doesn’t Chertoff look like Beaker from the Muppet Show? :-D
Comment by Zooey — July 2, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
That’s who he looks like! I thought it was a cartoon…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 pmof course he thought that. has anyone currently in this administration shown any indication of critical thought or remorse? I think we’d all be a lot happier if we changed our expectations of this administration and started to move forward based on the assumption that they do not play to our nation’s better instincts or represent a positive path into the future.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 pmthe law matters not.
Keith has surrendered to the terrorists.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmChertoff looks like a cross between GWB’s mom and the milkman.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmThese car bombs defused in London really should show everyone here at home that whatever GWB and company have done and are currently doing is really necessary and the law matters not.
Comment by Keith H.
Except that one of the guys in the car that actually was on fire is a Doctor from Iraq, proving that all we’ve done is turned reasonable people into terrorists.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmChertoff (Israeli Citizen and sometiem head of DHS) and Rabbi Sen. Lie-Berman (I-Israel) both agree that Israel spying on US Citizen’s should increase. Ain’y that cozy
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:47 pmHow can people who ignore subpoenas intended to find the truth then propose illegal wiretaps to find the “truth”? I guess the only way we’ll get to the bottom of the corruption of the administration is illegal wiretaps at the Whitehouse.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pmWhat idiot does not get is that the first 2 car bombs were noticed and reported by citizens. No amount of wiretapping would have discovered these attacks.
But that doesn’t stop the neocon clowns from pushing their anti-constitutional BS.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pmFreedomFascism is on the march…..“Be afraid…..be very afraid…..!!” — and the rabble immediately fell in line, surrendering their rights with nary a whimper.
When I see that wiretapping actually works (you REALLY think terrorists are going to discuss their plans on anything other than a throwaway pre-paid cell phone?), I may open my mind to the idea. But until then, spying on the American people violates the very freedom we are supposedly fighting for.
(Wonder what Chertoff would say if a senator urged a ban on firearms in the name of national security? Would he be so quick to agree?)
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pmHey, you guys want to hear an ant-Bush joke? Good.
Ex-Governor Bush Called Former President Clinton one afternoon.
“Hello, Bill? It’s Dubya. Say, I’ve been meanin’ ta ask ya sumthin’. How did you do so well with the ladies when you were president?”
“I’ll tell ya, George. The trick is to dazzle them with charm and intelligent conversation.”
“Yeah, but what can I do?” asked Bush.
Clinton paused. “Well, George, if all else fails, try puttin’ a potato down your pants. That works every time.”
The next week, Bush called Clinton again.
“Bill? Dubya. Laura was in Crawford over the weekend and I got to go stag to the embassy ball. I tried the potato trick, but all the ladies kept their distance.”
“I know, I saw the ball on C-SPAN,” laughed Clinton. “Next time, try puttin’ the potato down the front of your pants.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pmKeith H.
“These car bombs defused in London really should show everyone here at home that whatever GWB and company have done and are currently doing is really necessary and the law matters not.”
Unlees of course you buy the line that “we have to fight them over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here.”
That’s obvious garbage now wouldn’t you say?
There’s more than one way to skin a cat. And this particular cat will not be skinned through military force.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pm.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pmRepublicans don’t know HOW to protect the country. Want proof: see the Bush administration’s actions prior to 9/11 and Bush’s response in the 7 minutes after he was told “the United States was under attack.”
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Yes TP lets leave it up to the citizens to provide the tips and be the eyes and ears of our national security and then pray we get lucky.
Comment by Tracy
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:51 pmIt’s a shame that such bipartisan policies are criticized by the left wing.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmyes, because you and your associates have been so spot on in the past, please, by all means, start wiretapping everybody.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmNote that the Chertoff/lieberfuher view encompasses wiretapping on citizens and/or residents of the United States. This means that they are championing the wholesale wiretapping on a domestic basis. Note how this contradicts the current justification for non warrant taps because one party is not in the United States. Cool! We have wholesale wire tapping without prior review. We will never have any evidence of abuse of the power. No one will know that they were tapped since it secret. The administration will find this to be proof that no abuse occurred. Except maybe for those citizen protestors and Democratic politicians who are picked up as “enemy” combatants. We won’t hear about those either.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:54 pm“Lieberman is Dead Right” Oh that Chertoff, he’s such a kidder.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:54 pmExcept he’s missing the “cute†factor, exactly.
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
Definitely. :P
He’s got a lot of “dork” factor going for him though.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 pm“I know, I saw the ball on C-SPAN,†laughed Clinton. “Next time, try puttin’ the potato down the front of your pants.â€
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Heh.
One question: Is that an anti-Bush joke, or a pro-Clinton joke? :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmHere’s a phrase you will never hear from our liberal media:
“Disgraced Republican”
Those 2 words cannot be combined, simply because, in our national media’s collective mind, it is impossible for someone to be both a ‘Republican’ and ‘Disgraced’.
That is why Chertoff’s opinion is valued despite the death toll from Katrina due to his massive incompetence, Bernard Kerick’s opinion is valued despite stealing 9/11 funds to suck/f*ck Judith Regan, Robert Novak still has weekly editorials in the Washington Post despite outing a CIA covert agent and compromising our national security.
If Joe McCarthy was alive today he would have a talkshow on FOX (or MSNBC).
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:58 pm“Yesterday, Sen. Joe Lieberman (R-CT) used the foiled terror attempts in London to call for greater domestic spying in the United States.â€
There, I fixed it…
Comment by unbelievable — July 2, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Nope, “Sen. Joe Lieberman (Likud-Tel Aviv) “
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:58 pmIt’s a shame that such bipartisan policies are criticized by the left wing.
Comment by mook12 — July 2, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Bi Partisan to a republican is two republicans.
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:58 pm“Except that one of the guys in the car that actually was on fire is a Doctor from Iraq, proving that all we’ve done is turned reasonable people into terrorists.”
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Shame
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmIsalm did that not US.
Yesterday, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) used the foiled terror attempts in London to call for greater domestic spying in the United States. “I hope these terrorist attacks in London wake us up here in America to stop the petty partisan fighting going on about…electronic surveillance,†Lieberman said, referencing… Bush’s wiretapping program
That’s twice you’ve claimed Joe Lieberman called for more wiretapping, without providing a source.
Which is odd, because there’s more than enough news reports about him calling for this increase in “electronic surveillence” you refer to.
I guess the problem is they all quote him in full, which clearly shows he was talking about how well the CCTV assists the police in the UK, what US cities have this already and proposes that this is the “electronic surveillence” that should be expanded.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmComment by Troll — July 2, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
No. Islam is all they have to turn to to fight your bombs and bullets.
Make no mistake about it folks. This is NOT a war between the US and Iraq, or the US and Islam.
Its a war between conservative republican wingnuts, and anyone they don’t like.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmMr Lieberman is still a liberal and as a whole they have not yet learned a very imporant fact. Government is the enemy of free people.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:04 pmYour damn right, he was dead right!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:06 pmComment by Zooey
It’s geared to be an anti-Bush joke, though you probably notice that it’s tinged with the Clinton scandal.
Actually, I believe TP should delete that post (#24) because I didn’t inquire consent from theangryliberal.com.
Is that against the TOS?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 2, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
FART&PEE THE QUEER IS HERE, so have no fear!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:07 pmSo basically, he admitted to illegal wiretapping on National TV?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmWould someone tell these cowardly ass pussies that America is the land of the free and home of the brave?!? I am tired of having these paranoid weaklings projecting their gutlessness and spinelessness on the whole country! I bet they sleep with the freakin’ light on and have to get tucked in by their mommy everynight, there so damn scared of the terror boogeyman!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmFART&PEE THE QUEER IS HERE, so have no fear!
Comment by Mr. President
No! It couldn’t be!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmIslam has been a threat to free people and peace everywhere since its foundation. Our bombs and bullets are a response to this threat.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pmLie berman, and Chertoff, our Israeli buttkisser/friends abusing American freedoms…..who’s our enemy again?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pm#37 ~ The fanatics aren’t doing anything but taking in people that we chase off the street with guns. If you want people to be desperate, despondent, and violent, oppress them. If you want people to be creative, compassionate, and productive, give them freedom.
And freedom means self-imposed choice, not fois gras capitalism.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pmActually, I believe TP should delete that post (#24) because I didn’t inquire consent from theangryliberal.com.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
That joke was not funny CT, you should not joke about the President involved in affairs, unless it is true, like Slick Willy Clinton getting sucked off by the slut Monica Lewinsky.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pmIslam has been a threat to free people and peace everywhere since its foundation. Our bombs and bullets are a response to this threat.
Comment by Troll — July 2, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
100% true.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 pmthat would be… THEY’RE so damn scared of the terrorist boogeyman…
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmComment by Kilo
Kilo, I’m highly impressed with your work. I’m offering you tenure to the TP faculty of dissent. Should you accept, you will join Mr. President, CT_V1, flaco, and The Joker as the leading “trolls” at TP.org.
Shall you take the offer?
If not, *burn*
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:15 pmBi Partisan to a republican is two republicans.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Or just one closeted gay republican?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:16 pm‘Lieberman Is Dead Right’ ???
I have NEVER heard that formulation of this remark. In my experience the descriptor “dead” has ALWAYS been used in conjunction with “wrong.”
The irony is so thick it would stop a bullet.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:16 pmI’ve been convinced. I’m ready to give up all of my freedoms for a carfire in foreign country ; b
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmWhat an ugly, evil man. Then again, everyone in Chimpy’s Admin are evil.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmWho is this “Queen of Trolls” guy?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmTroll,
“Islam has been a threat to free people and peace everywhere since its foundation. Our bombs and bullets are a response to this threat.”
I think it works better this way
Witchcraft has been a threat to free people and peace everywhere since its foundation. Our Inquisitions and torture methods are a response to this threat.
It’s not Islam that is the threat, it’s dogmatic religion of all kinds.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmNope, “Sen. Joe Lieberman (Likud-Tel Aviv) “
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — July 2, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Isn’t that the same thing? :D
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:21 pmWho is this “Queen of Trolls†guy?
Comment by doro — July 2, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
LOL
I must admit that I always find it embarrassing when someone who speaks English as a second language has a far better grasp of it than a number of my native countrymen who speak nothing else…
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:24 pmShitoff has one of those face of “The State” like in V for Vendetta or in Orwell’s 1984. What a pasty, evil face.
What is happening to our country?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmTrolls: Remember that these terrorists want to change our very way of life so that we hide in fear and our civilization eventually collapses. Removing personal freedoms, disbanding habeus corpus, and giving the government unusual police powers is what they WANT us to do. Living our lives to the fullest, letting our civilization solve problems and capture terrorists and bring them to justice (not kill them) without suspension of freedoms — THAT’s how we win! Well that and adopt a more sensible and understanding foreign policy where it doesn’t look like the “Big Bad USA” is going to randomly attack any random country that steps out of line and has citizens that are predominantly a shade of brown or tan.
Congratulations on surrendering to the terrorists!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmComment by unbelievable — July 2, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
So… you’ve lost your mind.
What in the hell are you talking about?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmShitoff has one of those face of “The State†like in V for Vendetta or in Orwell’s 1984. What a pasty, evil face.
What is happening to our country?
Comment by Kay — July 2, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Idiots like you are starting to believe that the fictional books and movies they watch are reality!
LOL!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmThe increase in terrorism rhetoric in America will be just like 2004’s election cycle.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmAl Queda counts on this and in fact will be most active over the next year because the intent is to keep a republican president and a nation divided.
The ultimate goal is to fuel hatred among peoples in the absence of hatred.
…it’s dogmatic religion of all kinds.
Comment by Crump’s Brother — July 2, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
Right… so Islam, being a dogmatic religion, should be wiped out.
I agree.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 pm‘Lieberman Is Dead Right’ ???
I have NEVER heard that formulation of this remark. In my experience the descriptor “dead†has ALWAYS been used in conjunction with “wrong.â€
The irony is so thick it would stop a bullet.
Comment by Mark @ News Corpse — July 2, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
You are correct! what was actually said is ‘Lieberman Is Dead! Right?’, raising the hopes of every patriotic American.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:30 pmShitoff has one of those face of “The State†like in V for Vendetta or in Orwell’s 1984. What a pasty, evil face.
What is happening to our country?
Comment by Kay — July 2, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Idiots like you are starting to believe that the fictional books and movies they watch are reality!
LOL!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Kay, its just that Mr. P has never read for the benefit of a richer understanding.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:31 pmChertoff is merely trying to look important. He is actually another failure in the appointments by Bushie.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:31 pmBTW, I heard that US intel had info on planned attacks at airport infrastructure as long as two weeks ago, but they didn’t inform anyone in the UK.
I am not finding enough information to verify it all, but that is the gist of it. Anyone know any more?
This could be like August 2001. Warnings, warnings everywhere, but no follow up.
Meanwhile use this time to strip more freedoms and liberties from the American public.
Comment by Mr. President
If you haven’t noticed, this religious kook’s determination of intellectual capacity hinges on “virginity,” so you need to take the nut seriously, m’k?
Do it for your own good, Mr. President.
(I, for one, would like to know what school division entrusts this person to fulfull critical teaching duties to someone’s children. I would promptly urge them to withdraw this specimen’s salary or lobby the citizens in this “teachers” locality to stop paying taxes.)
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:34 pm…it’s dogmatic religion of all kinds.
Comment by Crump’s Brother — July 2, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
Right… so Islam, being a dogmatic religion, should be wiped out.
I agree.
Comment by Mr. President
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:35 pmMr. P- you fail to see the end result. What is more holy? The mosk, the seplucar? Who has claim? All have claim. In the end, you will fight for your families within the walls that you have built.
Did I hit a nerve?
We are living 1984 and V for Vendetta.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:35 pmOh, God, what is happening to this country?
Lieberman (Likud - Hafia) seemed to admit that he knows the depth and scope of the wiretapping program that the Justice Department and White House are stonewalling the committees with.
Should Joe be put under oath to tell what he knows?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:38 pmMr. P only reads “My Pet Goat” -or- “The Fart Book”
isn’t disdain for Intelligence one of the tell-tale signs of a Fascist State?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:38 pmKay,
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm1984 is more than here. Yes, you hit a nerve because no neo-con can accept the fact that they no longer have control.
Parrot,
We did not “randomly attack” Iraq they randomly attacked Kuwait then failed to live up to the cease fire.
Other than that I agree that we must resist irrational responses to fear. However if we do nothing they will also use our open and free society against us. We are dammed if we do and dammed if we don’t. How then do we effectively protect ourselves and our liberal society from Islamofascist who must per order of allah bring us under submission.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:43 pmShame
Isalm did that not US.
Comment by Troll
Well he was a muslim and a doctor long before he became a terrorist. And he’s an Iraqi, there wasn’t any of those before the war.
But if you’re more comfortable with you delusions, don’t let me stop you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:43 pmMy God, it’s Beaker from the Muppets, in the flesh!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:43 pmShame
Isalm did that not US.
Comment by Troll
Oh and here’s another thing to ponder. Those terrorist in Northern Ireland, do you blame that on Islam too? I think it had more to do with “occupation” but what do I know.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:45 pmWhy does Chertoff hate the Constitution?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:45 pmMr. P- you fail to see the end result. What is more holy? The mosk, the seplucar? Who has claim? All have claim. In the end, you will fight for your families within the walls that you have built.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I say nuke ‘em all!!!
The kaaba, The Vatican, and Jerus*lem!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pmA must read for all those Souls with their heads in the sand :
http://911truth.org/ article.php?story=20070625170907200
love,
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pmKay
-coulda sworn Chertoff was in “Night Of the Living Dead”
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pm.
I didn’t know that warrentless wiretapping of Americans is an American Principle. This IS what Chertoff and Lieberman argue for… UNAMERICAN PRINCIPLES!
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July 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pmMr. P only reads “My Pet Goat†-or- “The Fart Bookâ€
isn’t disdain for Intelligence one of the tell-tale signs of a Fascist State?
Comment by Kay — July 2, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
Maybe. But I said nothing about “Intelligence” (I don’t know why we are capitalizing this word, but, OK).
Isn’t thinking that fictional books and movies are real one of the tell-tale signs of dementia?
WE’RE ALL STUCK IN THE MATRIX!!!!
WE NEED KEANU REEVES TO SAVE US!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:50 pmI would promptly urge them to withdraw this specimen’s salary or lobby the citizens in this “teachers†locality to stop paying taxes.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
My Principals, co-workers, students and students’ parents disagree with you. Even students who failed my classes disagree with you. LOL
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmA third doctor is being held in the UK terror plot according to MSNBC news.
The Iraq War, winning hearts and minds daily.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:52 pmIs that against the TOS?
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Trolls — July 2, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
You’re worried about the TOS now?
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmA third doctor is being held in the UK terror plot according to MSNBC news.
The Iraq War, winning hearts and minds daily.
Comment by shane
Oh, and he’s also an Iraqi. But hey who wouldn’t throw away all that medical training for kicks? I’m sure frustration and terror accompanied by PTSD has nothing to do with it. Ask the trolls, it’s Islam.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmShirtoff had taped interviews on every major news show yesterday morning. He basically had the same script for every question.
Here was his advice to Americans for the pending holiday this week…
‘Be extremely vigilant, report suspicious activities & have a nice holiday’.
Gee, Mikey, thanks! I would have never thought of that. But just in case, can you wiretap my phone & internet? Thanks! I feel much better now.
Shirtoff may be the worst of the worst among BushBoy picks. He hides from the public, mostly, but when he does pull his head out of that hole, he has nothing but Neoturd talking points to spew.
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmMr. President,
“Right… so Islam, being a dogmatic religion, should be wiped out.”
I’m fine with that. Christianity as well. Although you and I disagree heavily on the means to do that I would guess.
I believe reason and intellectual honesty are the best methods.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:01 pmit’s Islam.
Comment by shane — July 2, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Yup. That MuslimShiteater ™ should be tortured to the full extent of the law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmWe did not “randomly attack†Iraq they randomly attacked Kuwait then failed to live up to the cease fire.
Comment by Troll
You might want to check how many tons of bombs over civilian population the US has poured since Gulf War. Thank you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmMr President,
“I say nuke ‘em all!!! The kaaba, The Vatican, and Jerus*lem!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
This is my point. You prefer violence over reason. Let’s call it the Stalinist atheist method. I disavow that ideology.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmMichael Jerkoff is a neo-fascist just like Odious Joe Lieberman.
Nice work boys. Ruin democracy in order to fight it.
-GSD
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:04 pmAren’t We Living under Fascism?
Secrecy Demanded (Illegal Wiretapping, Secret Prisons),
Corruption Unchecked (Cheney’s Above the Law),
Rights Disappear (The Patriot Act I, The Military Commissions Act,
Glorification of The Military (Afghanistan, Iraq…)
Enemies Identified (AL-Queda),
Elections Stolen (2000, 2004),
Corporations Shielded (Global Warming)
Media Controlled (See Bill Moyers “Buying the Iraq War”)
Police Militarized, Rampant Sexism, Intellectual Bullying
Exuberant Nationalism (You are either with us you’re with the terrorists”)
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:04 pm‘Be extremely vigilant, report suspicious activities & have a nice holiday’.
I looked in my neighbor’s garage yesterday and I saw all kinds of suspicious explosive devices and he told me he expected Wednesday to be the best ever. Apparently his cell extends to some people that he says are ‘on the rez’ whatever that means…… what should I do?
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:07 pmMichael Jerkoff is a neo-fascist just like Odious Joe Lieberman.
What was the name of the DFL vice-presidential nominee a few years back? What was his name….nammmmee…name-O…nayme…shoot…what was that dudes NAME! Its on the tip of my tongue.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmChertoff, what a dumba^^ moron.
Chertoff is such a Bush monkey that when he talks, it sounds like two blades of grass that are really green.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:10 pm#95-
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmKay,
I don’t believe that your post will be appreciated among those who wish only to dictate belief. But I applaud your post. Most well thought out.
When I say belief, it is religious as well as political. But most of all it is about belief in their own self as people among people with hopes and dreams.
Glorification of The Military (Afghanistan, Iraq…)
Comment by Kay
See now, that one kinda appeals to me. =)
“All hail SGT Higgins”
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:14 pm(repeat ad infinitum)
#67 Comment by WaltTheMan — July 2, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
You are correct! what was actually said is ‘Lieberman Is Dead! Right?’, raising the hopes of every patriotic American.
LOL! You beat me to that one. And bettered me with “raising the hopes of every patriotic American.”
He is a great example of Mark Twain’s observation:
“Died at 30, buried at 60.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmThe only way out, and I do mean only from our current Fascist regime :
IS TO BLOW THE LID OF THE LIE OF 9/11
9/11 WAS A COVER-UP.
CHENEY’S WET DREAM : BOMB IRAN (of course, caused by blaming them)
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:17 pm#37 - “Shame Isalm did that not US. Comment by Troll ”
Islam is a religion. How did a religion turn normal every day Iraqi’s into terrorists? Try using that pea brain of yours for a little critical thinking. If we had not invaded Iraq, killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi’s and forced millions out of their homes and out of their country, I doubt that this Iraqi doctor would have felt compelled to do what he did.
You must have an IQ in the room temperature range considering your ability to think critically.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmShitoff has one of those face of “The State†like in V for Vendetta or in Orwell’s 1984. What a pasty, evil face.
What is happening to our country?
Comment by Kay — July 2, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Idiots like you are starting to believe that the fictional books and movies they watch are reality!
LOL!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 2, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
As opposed to all the geniuses running for the horseshit GOP presidential nomination , that are always referring to Jack Bauer and the show “24″ ?
Good call , Chimpy ; just like Iraq , you brainless shithead………
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmNobody at the White House has ever explain why they should be able to wiretap without warrants and without showing probable cause before a judge.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmWE THE PEOPLE do not give up our unalienable rights. We didn’t do it when the Soviets had 50,000 warheads pointed at us. And we’re not doing it just because somebody blew up a few cars in Glasgow.
BLIAR out
Brown in.
Fake, staged terror-ops.
Not too hard to figure out.
Brown and Bush should be kissing each others arses soon.
God help us all.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmWithout his beard he not only looks like a reichwing pig, he talks like one too. Oh, yeah, he talked like that with his beard on too. My bad.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmKatie
Get an education before you insult others.
The historical fact is that Muhammad was a terrorist and his followers are to emulate him.
None of the 9-11 hijackers were from occupied palestine what then was their excuse?
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 pm“petty partisan fighting”
yes, our desire to live free of intrusion is just so petty…
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmKatie
#108 Katie - Get an education before you insult others.
The historical fact is that Muhammad was a terrorist and his followers are to emulate him.
None of the 9-11 hijackers were from occupied palestine what then was their excuse?
Comment by Troll
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:01 pmMr. Troll,
You have chosen a slipperyslope and strawman argument. 9/11 had nothing to do with Islam. It had everything to do with religious fanatics.
Leftcoast
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmSpecifically Muslim religious fanatics.
You have chosen a slipperyslope and strawman argument. 9/11 had nothing to do with Islam. It had everything to do with religious fanatics.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
God you Lefties are dumb. Stop following your Islamo-Stalinist masters and look at what you just said.
ISLAM IS A RELIGION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmTypical Islamophile Lefty.
I’d rather have ‘big brother’ looking down on me than get blown to bits by a terrorist bomb. Britain is a progressive country yet they don’t have a problem with the thousands of security camera’s around London. Lets face it as the great Bob Dylan sang ‘times are-a changin’!’ indeed they are and we’ve got to come to some hard realizations and sadly start changing our views along with them…
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:12 pmOh really, the criminals want to behave more criminally. I’m so surprised.
We better just give up all our rights, if we don’t we may have to face more terrorist attacks like the one in Scotland. I don’t know what I’d do, if someone tried to kill me by running a car into a building then setting themselves on fire - how could I get away? Yeah, I’m for all of my liberties taken from me.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:13 pmAren’t We Living under Fascism?
Secret Security Programs revealed to press by leaking traitors
Undermine national security (trashing patriot act, tracking of terrorist communication & financing)
Corruption Unchecked (Sandy Burglar, Kennedy, Clinton, etc above the Law),
Rights Disappear (Bill of Rights decimated, Constitution trashed)
Gayification of The Military (Do ask, do tell, do bendover, but don’t fight)
Enemies Aided and abetted (Al-Queda, Iraq, Iran),
Elections Nearly Stolen (2000, 2004),
Corporations raped (unions, trial lawyers, taxes, regulation)
Media Controlled (Bill Moyers, NY Slimes, all newspapers, all TV, Hollywood)
Rampant Sexism and racism (ie, affirmative racism)
No Nationalism (want open borders, “multi-culturalism”, and replace capitalism with socialism)
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:15 pmugh… coming in late again…
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmbut just wondered if anyone else noticed…
this guy is looking sick or something, worse than ever…
his makeup for the sunday shows was laughable…
seriously, like clown makeup… pasty… rosy cheeks and all…
ah well…
Chertoff is another “dead wrong ” evil neo-con. nobody’s against spying to help protect our country and fight Terrorism. just use the law and get a court order! FISA law was established (after Nixon’s abuse of spying) for that very reason and works fine!
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmAren’t We Living under Fascism?
Rampant Sexism and racism (ie, affirmative racism)
Corruption Unchecked (Sandy Burglar, Kennedy, Clinton, Clinton, etc. above the Law),
Rights Disappear (Bill of Rights decimated, Constitution trashed)
Cannot criticize politicians near elections
Can have our property seized and replaced with condos
Can’t exercise Second Amendment right to own guns in some cities
Can’t express certain views at universities
Can’t think “improper” thoughts, or be punished with “hate” crime
Enemies Aided (AL-Queda, Iraq, Iran),
Elections Nearly Stolen (2000, 2004),
Corporations raped (unions, trial lawyers, taxes, regulation)
Media Controlled (Bill Moyers, NY Slimes, all newspapers, all TV, Hollywood)
No Nationalism (want open borders, “multi-culturalism” and replace capitalism with socialism)
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:25 pmCaption Contest:
Chertoff: “Captain Kirk, I’ve never heard of ‘corbomite’”
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:25 pmkaty - here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708458/plotsummary
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmDid Chertoff ever account for 40% of the DHS budget that went missing? Another heckuva job moment in Bush’s maladministration.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 pmHunh. Go figure. I feel he’s a liar for misrepresenting the debate over warrantless wiretapping as partisan and petty. We’re actually worried about a lawless Executive Branch, protecting our Constitutional safeguards, and domestic political spying.
Bombs Away Joe can’t be that dumb. Only option left: Bombs Away Joe Lieberman is a disgraceful and immoral liar.
And he’s getting his eyebrows shaved badly.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 pmChertoff looks like a cross between GWB’s mom and the milkman.
Comment by Keith H. — July 2, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Or Skeletor
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:40 pmThat’s:
2 votes now for Skeletor
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:57 pm1 for Beaker
1 for Ming the Merciless
1 for Balok
1 for V for Vendetta dude
1 for NOTLD dude
I swear, you repug trolls are such pussies. I would rather go down fighting to save the American way of life than to turn this nation into your version of the Soviet Union. For cryin out loud you have not even had to pick up a gun and your ready to surrender to the 911 terrorists. If only you could stop pissing your pants for five little minutes you might realize that the biggest threat to this country and the world is the current administration.
The man who is willing to trade liberty for security deserves neither…Ben Franklin
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:10 pmDoes this mean I should stop making buys over the phone?
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:26 pmDoes this mean I should stop making buys over the phone?
Comment by “dave” badass — July 2, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Do what you like, they can look at your bank account. Phone, the internets, whatever.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:29 pmThe man who would trade liberty for security is a freaked out pussy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:55 pmIf you guys were around in 1933 Germany you would be screaming to give the fuhrer more authority to save you from the scary communist terrorists. Honestly, why don’t you punks grow some balls already!
The man who is willing to trade liberty for security deserves neither…Ben Franklin
Comment by Real American Patriot
Amen to that R A P and Ben
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmHonestly, why don’t you punks grow some balls already!
Comment by Real American Patriot
Wait, I think the trolls had them surgically removed. Do they grow back? No, I think they’re gone for good.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 pm#79
removal of the “occupation(s)” isn’t the main MO of the Islamic fundmentalist terrorists.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pmShort version of Chertoff’s blather:
Wiretap everyone, but me. I am one of the good guys. Just trust us.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmWould you buy a used car from this man?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:58 pmAh! Chertoff, Giuliani, and Lieberman. Playing right into terrorists’ hands.
Did you know Chertoff and Giuliani go way back? Rudy is Chertoff’s yoda/sensei.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:27 pmHere’s Chertoff in action!!
Iowa senators angry about propane plan
Heckuva job.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmI see the cameras prevented the attacks in london so many times..
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 amJoes Liebermann is dead wrong. He’s a Jew first and American last. He’s only hawkish because he wants to protect Israel. If he weren’t such a partisan Jew he’d think more about our freedom instead of protecting Israel. I’m for protecing Israel too, but am American first. Our security isn’t worth losing our freedom over. If we have to be slaves to Big Brother, then I will leave this country. Fools who don’t realize that Lieberman and the Republicans are trying to turn this country into a Police State are going to regret voting Republican, but then it will be too late.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 pm