Former senator Fred Thompson, who serves on Scooter Libby’s Legal Defense Fund, today said he is “happy” by President Bush’s decision to commute Libby’s sentence:
I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children.
While for a long time I have urged a pardon for Scooter, I respect the president’s decision.
This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.
Of course… for a good American… the ends justify the means.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:01 pmcan you imagine having to put up with this variety of crap until 2013? not that any of them are perfect, but give to democrats till it hurts….
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:03 pmGood, Fred. Please spout more of this Libby defense drivel when you hit the campaign trail. Republicans won’t have a shot in 08.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:03 pmIt’s time to hit the streets with highway signs.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:06 pmMore than 70% of Americans did not want a Libby pardon.
This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.
Needs to be changed to “has done a lot for his Party (BushCo)”.
Guess Freddy Flintstone would also agree with this move as an esteemed DA on (No)Law and (Dis)Order.
And he may be the BEST @ssclown the Repugs can find!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:06 pmI am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children.
Law and Order Guy- Fred Thompson
I know the families of convicted crack dealers will be happy because their sentences will now be reduced to the same coke dealers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:06 pmApparently Fred didn’t learn much from Watergate. Keeping Scooter quiet: “I respect the jury’s verdict,†George Bush said, speaking oxymoronically as he announced his soon-to-be-notorious Monday Night Massacre of justice. This is no misdemeanor, it’s a high crime. It’s time to move impeachment to the front burner and turn up the heat.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 pmLOL Thompson is too stupid to realize his bid for the presidency is dead as a dog. Defending Libby is committing political suicide.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:08 pmBush 2000 Flashback:
“So when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not only uphold the laws of our land, I will swear to uphold the honor and dignity of the office to which I have been elected, so help me God.”
“In my administration, we will ask not only what is legal but what is right. Not just what the lawyers allow, but what the public deserves.”
For the history, see:
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:08 pm“Neither Right Nor Legal: Libby and the Bush 2000 Standard.”
But, but, Fred was so keen on the rule of law and wanting to impeach Clinton. Apparently Fred also puts party and loyalty above the law.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:10 pmValerie Plame Wilson is a good American….
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:10 pmSomebody needs to utilize the RICO statutes against this ongoing criminal enterprise.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:10 pm.
Come on Bush and do the right thing _ Full Pardon!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:11 pmDick Cheney has George’s scrotum in a vicelock.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:11 pmWhoa! Where in the he11 are the “Law-&-Order” Republicans?
This sentence commutation is going to backfire big time.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 pmCome on Bush and do the right thing _ Full Pardon!
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
You wingnuts just can’t get enough of corruption, and subversion of our national security. Explains why you guys are responsible for all of the domestic and international terrorism. Hatemonger.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:14 pmThompson: You just pretend you’re some kind of big shot on TV. You are not one in real life.
Come election day we will remember this, little man.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:16 pmMoonbat implosion 3 2 1 …..bang!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:16 pmHopefully Fred comments will come back and kick him in the butt. Maybe he’s not reading the script correctly.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmVicelock? In his teeth more like it. The dirtier the better with these vermin.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmHeck of a JOB Georgie!!! You just gave the Democrats a HUGE advantage for the 2008. Keep up the good work…especially the work you do that doesn’t kill soldiers.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 pmDidn’t F. Thompson vote to impeach Clinton and said that Clinton obstructed Justice …although Clinton was not tried,or convicted.
Clinton case was also a lie about sex . This case is about more important issues.
The Appeal Court said Scooter Libby should go to prison…, but Thomspson is happy for Libby’s family for not going to prison.
That tells a lot about what kind of President Thompson will be if he is elected.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 pmGO THOMPSON!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:24 pmI don’t recall this many of you upset about Clinton’s pardon on Marc Rich . . .
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pmGood.
I’m glad Thompson was dumb enough to come out so early on this one for the President.
He just announced and ended his campaign for presidency in one felt swoop.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pmHey, why not? Bush can’t get anything right, so why would we expect him to get something as simple as “justice” right?
And Thompson — he’s a buffoon. He’s not smart; he just plays smart on T.V. In short, he’s the perfect candidate for a Republican Party dominated by corn-pone, in-bred, lipless wonders.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pm> Clinton case was also a lie about sex . This case is about more important issues.
There are no issues more important than Sex (or the absence of the same) to Komplete Konservative Krazies.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:26 pm“Now Eight supects are under arrest. We will give you updates as each and everyone of these supects are identified.”
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:26 pmFEAR,FEAR, FEAR.
Thompson, the D.A., shall give you less fear.
Hemlock:
Were you against the Marc Rich pardon? Do you know that Libby is still going to get 2 years supervised probation?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmThompson, the D.A., shall give you less fear.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmAnd may we all learn discernment.
Blessings
> I don’t recall this many of you upset about Clinton’s pardon on Marc Rich . . .
> Comment by Jake
Yeah, yeah whatever rocks your boat. Now go w*nk in the corner.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:28 pmWere you against the Marc Rich pardon? Do you know that Libby is still going to get 2 years supervised probation?
Comment by Jake
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmOh, Jake, Pulllleeezz.
Wait until Fred gets this thing shoved back into his face again and again during the campaign.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmNone of the Clinton articles of impeachment were about sex (ironically, they were lying to the grand jury and obstruction of justice — just like Libby never got charged with outing Plame).
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmIf Fred, or another Republican, is sworn in as President on January 20, 2009, are you all going to leave American again?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmTrolls: “Clinton did it too!! ”
Can’t you people come up with a more valid justification for Pres Bush’s actions? Who cares what Clinton did or did not do? He hasn’t been president in, what, six years.
Get over the man already. What a pathetic lot you Bush followers are.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:33 pmActually, Jake, I think the Marc Rich pardon stinks, but to compare it to the crime of outing a covert agent and conspiring to cover it up is ludicrous. But if there is one word that describes you, it’s ludicrous.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:33 pmNone of the Clinton articles of impeachment were about sex (ironically, they were lying to the grand jury and obstruction of justice — just like Libby never got charged with outing Plame).
Comment by Jake
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmBut not removed from office. Perhaps the same 24 million dollars towards Bush prosecution would help?
I was against the Marc Rich pardon, big time, Jake. I am against the Libby pardon even more so. Why can the people of my old party (a lifelong Republican who voted Democrat for the first time in ‘04) not understand TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT? It’s not ALL politicsm Jake. There’s fairness, justice and the cause of truth to consider. And Just because Clinton did it (or did not) doesn’t mean you should celebrate injustice when committed by a Republican president leading the party of greed, selfishness and hate. What is it about those who continue to swear allegiance to the modern GOP that their cold stoney hearts cannot understand right from wrong?
Despicable, sir, you are simply dispicable.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmNone of the Clinton articles of impeachment were about sex (ironically, they were lying to the grand jury and obstruction of justice — just like Libby never got charged with outing Plame). Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
BAHAHAHA, and none of the Plame affair was about the Iraq intelligence coverup! Funny, very funny, you silly little boy!!!
If Fred, or another Republican, is sworn in as President on January 20, 2009, are you all going to leave American again? Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
If a Democrat wins, will you leave? Please oh, please? Because there’s *nothing* American about you - you little nazi f*cker!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmNone of the Clinton articles of impeachment were about sex (ironically, they were lying to the grand jury and obstruction of justice — just like Libby never got charged with outing Plame).
Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Clinton was impeached by the GOP. Fifty Republican senators voted to impeach. Scooter Libby was communed to protect the thugs in the crime family. Had he gone to jail, he may have sang the song that had Dickless Cheney as the chorus. This is another criminal act by the most corrupt group of thugs to ever darken the doors of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave..
Jake, get a life you ignorant moron.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmIn reference to Jake’s comment about Marc Rich:
From Wiki:
During hearings after Rich’s pardon, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, who had represented Rich from 1985 until the spring of 2000, denied that Rich had violated the tax laws, but criticized him for trading with Iran at a time when that country was holding U.S. hostages. In his letter to the New York Times, Bill Clinton explained why he pardoned Rich, noting that U.S. tax professors Bernard Wolfman of Harvard Law School and Martin Ginsburg of Georgetown University Law Center concluded that no crime was committed, and that the companies’ tax reporting position was reasonable. [New York Times, February 18, 2001]
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmAnd by the way, Jake, Clinton lied to cover up something embarrassing that was not a crime. Libby lied to cover up a very serious crime. Big difference there, buddy.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmNone of the Clinton articles of impeachment were about sex (ironically, they were lying to the grand jury and obstruction of justice — just like Libby never got charged with outing Plame). Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Come to think of you, you’re right about Clinton - the Impeachment was about a political witchhunt that could only find dirt in his *private* life. Compare that to Libby, where this administration willfully put the security of the nation at risk, so a few NeoCons could bloody saddam’s nose over Israel. Blah, Blah, Blah…
Grow up sport, you come across like a deranged 12 year old.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:37 pm#39 Spirited response, Chadwick, but you should be aware that in Jake’s world two wrongs DO make a right, and my repeated attempts to persuade Jake otherwise have been for naught.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:38 pmOne lying smirking traitor pardons another lying smirking traitor. Treason all around. Happy Birthday, America, from the Bush crime family.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:39 pmGrow up sport, you come across like a deranged 12 year old.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — July 2, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
But he says he’s 75. Some people around here think he says that to immunize himself against charges of cowardice for not serving in Iraq. Personally I think he is a mid-20’s ex-college Republican (dropped out, lies about having the diploma) working as a low-level flak for the RNC or Karl’s shop (whatever the hell that is).
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmFred just showed American what kind of President he would have been. Convicted felons can’t go to jail if their a friend and a good American. Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham, Skilling are all good Americans I guess Fred will free them too. Fingers Foley is a good American who molest kids but as far as Fred concerned he’s a good American. Now in Missouri a black man was executed for a crime he didn’t commit but that doesn’t count with Fred because he was just an American not a good American. Let’s clear those jails as now all you need to be is a good American no matter what crime you committed. To bad good old Kenny Lay died he could have gone free to, now he’s judged by God.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmBut he says he’s 75. Some people around here think he says that to immunize himself against charges of cowardice for not serving in Iraq. Personally I think he is a mid-20’s ex-college Republican (dropped out, lies about having the diploma) working as a low-level flak for the RNC or Karl’s shop (whatever the hell that is). Comment by VerbalKint — July 2, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
20 or 75, the maturity level for Jake is that of a snotty, bratty, poorly raised 12 year old spoiled little sh*t. He’s a classic example of the product of bad republican parenting…
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:42 pmComment by VerbalKint — July 2, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
That’s been my experience with blind Bush followers on this board. Two wrongs do make a right, as long as it helps in the defence of the Republican party. Because, you know, it’s ok if you are a Republican.
jake the troll: That’s what a man with an unhealthy man-crush looks like (After six years, he still is not over Clinton. Pity the slobbering troll).
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:43 pmThank you for the information, John. Libby was not charged with ANY underlying crime and never fled the country either.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pmBush just pardoned Jack Abramoff!
Eh, not really. But at this point, would anyone be surprised?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pmAnyone talking about “justice” here should not have been making jokes about Libby getting raped in prison this morning.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pmJake, that had to do with Libby’s defense of Rich (The guy whom you are upset was given a presidential pardon from Bill Clinton).
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:46 pmComment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
I didn’t. And this is not justice.
Libby helped cover up a serious leak in national security. Of course, that doesn’t bother you because you pay lip service your concerns about the phony “war on terror”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:46 pmJohn:
I was never upset about Bill Clinton’s pardon — that power is completely within the Constitutional prerogative of the President of the United States — what I am commenting on is the hypocrisy of people who defended Clinton for that one but trash Bush for this one. Also, Bill Clinton certainly IS relevant as he is officially joining his wife to campaign for the Oval Office again.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 pmjake the fake, may I suggest you tackle a thread that is closer to your level of political sophistication.
Like the thread on FoxNews and the ham sandwich.
Of course, even that one might prove too much for you to handle.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:51 pmJake, a decent man WOULD and SHOULD have been upset about the Marc Rich pardon; it stunk to high Heaven. Sir, your moral compass is truly busted.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:52 pmI don’t know about that, Gregor, when 27 of 58 posts on this thread are about me . . .
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:54 pmAn even higher percentage of comments on the “Grinch Who Stole Fitzmas” thread!
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmLibby was not charged with ANY underlying crime
Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
….because prosecution was thwarted by Libby’s obstruction.
Thank me for finishing your sentence, Jake. By the way, I spoke out against the prison rape comments this morning.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmAnyone else?
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:59 pmI don’t recall this many of you upset about Clinton’s pardon on Marc Rich . . .
Comment by Jake
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Really? Can’t you recall that day we were drinking a cold one and fishing when you asked my opinion on that very issue and I said Clinton was very wrong for that pardon? You don’t recall? You don’t remember? It’s not part of your recollection? For the recored, you are definitely a neocon.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmComment by Chadwick — July 2, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
Of course that pardon stunk to high heaven.
Funny thing is, if you mention you were against that pardon, the Bush cultists find themselves in the position of having to defend Clinton -the very man they despise.
For all of you Bush cultist out there: The Rich pardon was also morally indefensible. Just like Libby’s is now. Actually, Libby’s pardon is worse.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmI fail to see how I can be counted as a neo-con when I did not oppose Clinton on his pardons OR firing U.S. Attorneys — for the record, I am registered Independent. GO LIEBERMAN!!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmWhen things get dicey, they’ll ALWAYS tell you their registered Independent.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmEspecially if THEY’RE actually registered Independent.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:06 pmJake, in your case it’s “in depends”, not “independent”.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pmWhy didn’t the President give Libby a Full Pardon? The judge was Extremely Bias in his sentencing. Clinton did not get any Jail time for his perjury and obstruction. Clinton also waited until his last day in office to give hundreds of Criminals Full Pardons. Also, did a women come forward and say that Clinton Raped her? This is a very bad offense in my opinion and should have gotten some Jail time.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmI fail to see how I can be counted as a neo-con when I did not oppose Clinton on his pardons OR firing U.S. Attorneys — for the record, I am registered Independent. GO LIEBERMAN!!! Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
You fail to see anything relevant or rational - this is just the latest in the long list. Jake*ss.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmWhat a freakin old fool! If there’s a God in Heaven, this actor will disappear into the sunset soon, never to be heard from again! Just one more star struck neocon ready to climb up any rethug’s ass and rubberstamp their heart’s desires!
bumper sticker
” If you liked Bush, you’ll love Thompson “
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmAnyone else?
Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Think your a st*pid little b!tch that’s too cowardly to serve his country? Yep.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmI was never upset about Bill Clinton’s pardon — that power is completely within the Constitutional prerogative of the President of the United States — what I am commenting on is the hypocrisy of people who defended Clinton for that one but trash Bush for this one. Also, Bill Clinton certainly IS relevant as he is officially joining his wife to campaign for the Oval Office again. Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
Maybe because Clinton didn’t have to pardon anyone from his Administration for subverting democracy? You’re a st*pid little Jake*ss.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmThis fat, lazy bastard is dead on arrival…put a nail in him…he is over.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmMike
All it takes for a conviction is someone to “come forward and say”? OK, then, Bush and Cheney ordered my telephones wiretapped, rerouted and screened my mail, and tried to block my donations to Democratic candidates. So, now we can impeach and convict Bush and Cheney, right?
You must really like the FAUX News “some say” reporting.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:22 pmOnly 21% of Americans agree with the wingnuts! Their opinions are about as unpopular as face shooting Cheney!
Yeah Jake*ss, m12(IQ), and the rest of you sad pathetic little wingnuts!
Your time has passed, you’re just too f*cking st*pid to know it!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:25 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian, so you agree with me to a point. The Clinton rape should have been looked into instead of Clinton and Women’s Group Trashing this lady? I think that is why a lot of women are afraid to come forth after being raped.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pmFred = Captain Blowhard with a Cuban
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:28 pmForget about Libby. Did the Justice Department after spending millions of tax payers money every say that any laws were actually broken in talking about Valerie in the first place? I did like seeing Valerie and her husband on the cover of that magazine.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian, so you agree with me to a point. The Clinton rape should have been looked into instead of Clinton and Women’s Group Trashing this lady? I think that is why a lot of women are afraid to come forth after being raped. Comment by Mike — July 2, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
You sound like the Duke prosecutor Mike. There was no case, there was no evidence, and you had someone that came forward after being *paid* to do so with Scaiffe/Swiftboat money… Yeah, sure…
You f*ckers really can’t deal with reality - can you?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pmThe President’s approval ratings are sure to go UP after today.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmMike
I did agree with you, to a point. The first word of your post was “why” and that I agreed with - everything else, not so much. Thanks for playing.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmA crook allowing a treasonous crook to avoid jail time, which a crooked former actor/senator praises. It’s all in the family!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmYou know Jake, you really ought to read up about who Marc Rich was. He was a financier deeply involved in Iran-Contra. Clinton essentially pulled the whole investigation on BCCI and Iran-Contra and so we end up with the same crooks running our government today. Clinton felt that the investigations into BCCI, Iran-Contra, and Guns for hostages would be too devisive for this country (perhaps he had some personal motivations as well)…but he did it to try to heal the country. We know how Republicans thanked him for that.
Moonbat implosion 3 2 1 …..bang!
Comment by Flaco — July 2, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
Not really….most moonbats totally expected this. Our brains would have imploded if Bush hadn’t played the “get out of jail free” and allowed Scooter to do his full term. Now we know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Bush-Cheney directed Scooter to out a CIA NOC and has now obstructed justice in the pursuit of the underlying crime, by relieving him of his jail time. Scooter won’t be talking now that he won’t do the time.
But keep apologizing for the criminals…it becomes you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmThe President’s approval ratings are sure to go UP after today.
I agree. The President did this for his base. The only thing is that he should have give Libby a real Pardon. This was not even a True Pardon.
This will probably help the Republicans in 2008. I wonder if the Democrats are going to be hurt for wanting/passing a pay raise and rejecting the immigration bill. I do believe that control both houses. The percentages are against a women or a minority (Asian, African-American, Hispanic, etc.) winning the White House. It might happen, but it has never happened before (0%).
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:36 pm#
The President’s approval ratings are sure to go UP after today.
Comment by Jake — July 2, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
28%+0 = 28%. Seriously, are you a RW comedian or terminally stupid?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:38 pmClinton smells better than Fred Thompson.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 pmI really did not think that the President had the Balls to Pardon Libby before his term was done. Clinton waited before he Pardoned all those Criminals.
I like Clinton’s famous words, “I did not have sex with that woman”. He also said, I did not rape that woman. Can the Clintons be trusted to tell the Truth?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 pmhttp://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmOlbermann: For Commutation in ‘Greatest Crime of Century’ Bush and Cheney Must Resign
After naming President George W. Bush as his “Worst Person in the World†on Monday night for commuting the 30-month prison sentence for Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann promised: “Tomorrow night here on Countdown, a Special Comment calling on this Vice President and this President to resign.â€
I do not know or watch Olbermann. Does anyone know if Olbermann is bias from any of his previous statements?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmSomewhere a cell block full of guys is weeping…
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmSomewhere a cell block full of guys is weeping…
Perry Logan, that is funny. Are you talking about Bill Clinton or Libby?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmSo, Fred, does that mean that all good Americans are convicted felons?
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 pmAmerican democracy and justice is a joke.
Demolish the executive office. Create a parliament.
He has a bias against those who believe the Constitution is just a suggestion…
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pm“This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.” - Former senator Fred Thompson
good American = convicted felon (I’m sure old “Law and Order” considers ALL convicted felons to be “good Americans! Yeah, sure.)
done a lot for his country = done a lot to help the current corrupt administration to cover up its crimes.
resume his life = lie like a rug with impunity for the rest of his un-natural life
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmClinton thinks the Constitution is a dandy idea.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pmThompson another anti law and order republican.
God damned criminal republicans.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 pmOld Deputy Dawg done got his droopy duppy word it didn’t he. I have to laugh every time I see the guy. I see the deputy dawg instead. And I hear that mush mouth of his the same as deputy.
I would never in my wildest dreams think the republicans would have a has been bit part actor held up as their ideal candidate. ha ha ha ah ah laugh clown laugh.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 pmThompson is an ugly old GOPer creep and his support of Libby has destroyed any chance he had of becoming president. Bye dumb Fred!
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:41 pmFred Fred Fred.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 pmThompson is a festering pimple on a swine’s ass! He should be pelted with rotten eggs and fruit wherever he goes henceforth.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 pmFred should look in a mirror to see how disgustingly ugly he is, but I forgot that mirrors shatter before Thompson can look at himself > lol.
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 pm“I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children.”
So, please tell me what Fred Thompson thinks about the Wilson family. Does he care one whit that Valerie Plame has had her career taken from her? I doubt it. They are not loyal Republics so their families don’t matter.
These people are pure evil. If they are allowed to prevail, we can all kiss this once great country goodbye.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 pm“I don’t recall this many of you upset about Clinton’s pardon on Marc Rich . . .
Comment by Jake”
So, Jake, tell me what Marc Rich was guilty of? Lying to a grand jury, obstruction of justice, covering for the people who committed treason by outing a CIA agent?
And, to set the record straight, there were many Progressive/Liberals who were outraged by Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 pm“The President’s approval ratings are sure to go UP after today.
Comment by Jake”
Do you care to make a bet on that? I doubt it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 pmWow, a party that’s a cancer on itself. Quite an achievement, rethugs.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 pmI did a search on the Internet and it seems that it was not illegal to talk about Valerie since she was just a normal employee at the time. Had not been a field agent for years. That is why it was okay for her and her husband to get paid to be on the cover of that magazine. That federal prosecutor was not very good and wasted tax payers money. It should have only taken him a week to find out that it was okay to write about Valerie.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 pm“Were you against the Marc Rich pardon? Do you know that Libby is still going to get 2 years supervised probation?
Comment by Jake”
Oh…two years supervised probation. That’s so awful. All I have to do is to report to my probation officer occasionally while I sit in my cushy office and cushy job that the Bush Crime Family awards me with for being such a good loyal Republic.
And, then, there’s that awful $250,000 fine that I’ll have such a hard time paying for from the $3,000,000 I have collected from my defense fund. Oh, woe is me. The injustice of it all.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:08 pmClinton is taller than Fred.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 pm“The President’s approval ratings are sure to go UP after today.
Comment by Jakeâ€
Compared to the rating the democratic controlled congress is getting, the president’s ratings look awesome. Why are so many people dislike and upset with congress right now?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:10 pm“Were you against the Marc Rich pardon? Do you know that Libby is still going to get 2 years supervised probation?
Comment by Jakeâ€
Do you know if Clinton got probation. I know that he paid a big fine and lost his law license, but unsure if he had a suspended sentence.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 pm#107 “I did a search on the Internet and it seems that it was not illegal to talk about Valerie since she was just a normal employee at the time.”
Sorry, that canard was debunked long ago. I guess that CIA Director Hayden was lying when he said that Valerie Plame was covert and Patrick Fitzgerald was lying when he said that Valerie Plame was covert.
So, tell me genius, if Valerie Plame was just a normal employee at the CIA, why did she need a cover company (Brewster Jennings)? Do they give cover companies to all “normal” CIA agents.
The outing of Valerie Plame was a major crime, but the outing of her cover company was an even bigger crime. It not only destroyed Valerie Plame’s career, it also put all the other CIA agents working under the cover of Brewster Jennings in severe jeopardy. For all we know, these agents were killed or otherwise compromised. But, we can’t know that. You know why? The CIA’s investigation into this matter has been “classified”. Surprise…surprise, surprise!
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:13 pm“Why are so many people dislike and upset with congress right now?”
Because they have done nothing to get us out of Iraq and they have done nothing to charge the Bush Crime Family with the crimes they have committed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 pmBecause they have done nothing to get us out of Iraq and they have done nothing to charge the Bush Crime Family with the crimes they have committed.
Comment by Katie
That is not true that the Democratic Controlled Congress Has Not Done Nothing. They gave themselves a Big Pay Raise and Did Not Pass the President’s Immigration Bill.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 pmKatie,
I saw on the Internet that said everyone knew that she worked at the CIA and was the wife of Joe Wilson. Wilson did not hide the fact that his wife worked at the CIA and even introduced her as such. Of course, he did not tell everyone that his wife is the one responsible for sending him overseas. If it was illegal, then Patrick Fitzgerald is the worst federal prosecutor the united states has ever had. He wasted tax payers dollars and only got someone for being inconsistent in their testimony. Fitzgerald is incompetent, a joke and a laughing stock to America.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pm“http://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
Comment by Veritass”
And you will notice that the people that Clinton pardoned had all served most of their sentences, as per the DOJ guidelines. The only one that had never served a day for their crimes was Marc Rich. And he was required to pay a 100 million dollar fine for his pardon. Pales in comparison to Libby’s paltry $250,000 fine that will be paid out of his “save Libby” defense fund. And for all you historians out there, the liberals were outraged when Clinton pardoned Rich.
And, a very interesting twist to the Marc Rich/Scooter Libby comparison is as follows:
During hearings after Rich’s pardon, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, who had represented Rich from 1985 until the spring of 2000, denied that Rich had violated the tax laws….
Scooter Libby represented March Rich from 1985 until 2000. Now, isn’t that interesting!
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:27 pm“Katie, I saw on the Internet that said everyone knew that she worked at the CIA and was the wife of Joe Wilson. ”
Well, Tim, it would help if you could get your computer unstuck from “conservative only” websites. Then maybe you will read the truth. Do a Google search for “Valerie Plame, covert status” and read all the links. Then decide whether or not she was covert.
Also, I see that you conveniently chose to ignore my points about Brewster Jennings. Is that because the concepts I was putting forth were a little too complex for your pea brain?
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 pm“That is not true that the Democratic Controlled Congress Has Not Done Nothing. They gave themselves a Big Pay Raise and Did Not Pass the President’s Immigration Bill.
Comment by Mike ”
It was the Democratic Congress that didn’t pass the President’s immigration bill? And every one of the Lemming Republicans voted for the Immigration bill. Well, I guess that proves that the Democratic Congress just can’t pass anything.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 pmKatie,
I assume from your name that you are a woman. How can you defend someone who sexually harassed woman, lies all the time and maybe even rapes them? I would be outraged at Clinton and have nothing to do with him or his party after this type of action.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 pmWow, I can’t believe what I have done. I have lowered myself into trying to debate with neoCONS with IQ’s in the room temperature range. Bad Katie…Bad Katie….
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 pmwith IQ’s in the room temperature range. Bad Katie…Bad Katie….
Comment by Katie
I some times work in conditions where the temperature gets close to 200 degrees. I do not have an IQ of 200. Thank you anyways.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 pmI hope the CIA SNIPERS “get” Libby!!
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 pmKatie,
I saw on the Internet that said everyone knew that she worked at the CIA and was the wife of Joe Wilson. Wilson did not hide the fact that his wife worked at the CIA and even introduced her as such. Of course, he did not tell everyone that his wife is the one responsible for sending him overseas. If it was illegal, then Patrick Fitzgerald is the worst federal prosecutor the united states has ever had. He wasted tax payers dollars and only got someone for being inconsistent in their testimony. Fitzgerald is incompetent, a joke and a laughing stock to America.
Comment by Tim — July 2, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
Put down your talking points Tim and think for yourself. “I saw on the internet” - link please, primary sources, not right-wing web sites. Next: “she sent him overseas” - link please. “wasted tax payers dollars ” - right, so as has been made clear, the crime was considered very hard to prove - as in Watergate, it was the coverup that was prosecutable.
When you’ve found your kungfu, drop us a line, eh? Otherwise crawl back under your rock.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 pmI assume from your name that you are a woman. How can you defend someone who sexually harassed woman, lies all the time and maybe even rapes them? I would be outraged at Clinton and have nothing to do with him or his party after this type of action.
Comment by Tim — July 2, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
Dude, the thread is about Libby and Thompson, please try to stay focussed here…. or take some more Ritalin.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 pmDude, the thread is about Libby and Thompson, please try to stay focussed here…. or take some more Ritalin.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
That was hilarious. I almost spit out my drink reading your post. It is good to have a sense of humor. I will be sure to take my Ritalin. Thank you.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 pmWell, Fred Thompson is not the savior of the Republican party obviously.
After the Foley scandal one would have thought there would be some modicum of deference to the law, but there is not. Just cronyism as usual.
July 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmComment by Tim:
“I some times work in conditions where the temperature gets close to 200 degrees..”
Could you please explain this statement, kind Citizen?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 amCitizen > he works smelting iron ore into steel > lol.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 amJesus is looking for just such a person as you, Tim.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:09 amI will pray that your heart hears the call to his service, and that you will henceforth refrain from associating with the unsaved progressives that you engage with here at Think Progress.
P.S.
I’m going to Brazil in December to witness to the denizens of Copacabana Beach.
Would you like to cum along as a member?
Comment by Brother Daryll — July 3, 2007 @ 12:09 am
George Bush SAYS he is “saved”.
His ACTIONS make him a MURDERER…
Our Nun in 1st grade told us “ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS”
Calling yourself “saved” but being a LIAR and MURDERER like Bush is NOT following the Word of Jesus.
Bush is a BLASPHEMER, and bound for the ETERNAL FIRE.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 amTim, no kung fu at all eh? I guess what you ‘read on the internet’ didn’t pass the smell test..
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 amHollywood Fred was against perjury and obstruction of justice before he was for it.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 amGeorge our wonderful pRsesident is truly saved, he is saved from ever having be accountable for anything he does.
Because he believes in his Father who will always rescue him from combat service, and drunk driving tickets, and bad business deals.
He is saved from obscurity because he will be forever, and for all eternity, forgotten.
He will be remembered for having been a person who should have been kept in obscurity, if not commited to institutional care.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 amClinton agrees that the mentally ill should be treated.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 amThis goes to show.. anyone with a ‘R’ with their name is a f’ed up criminal. When can we bring honor and dignity to our government?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 amunless he joins coultergeist in the fox noise pundits room,i would say fred’s acting career is as f**ked as his political aspirations
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 amFred Thompson….. Flaw and Odor
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 am“Hollywood Fred was against perjury and obstruction of justice before he was for it.”
Comment by OxyCon — July 3, 2007 @ 12:26 am
“Fred Thompson….. Flaw and Odor”
Comment by Citizen Circvs — July 3, 2007 @ 12:45 am
Good ones! Ha!
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:59 amSomeone outta sock Thompson in the head. The lard-brain doesn’t even know he’s wearing an ass hat.
For he’s proof positive that even intelligent design can speak to why some humans just refuse to evolve.
If I did what Libby did, I’d get locked up after the hearing and have to work on my appeal behind bars. And you know, Thompson would be squawkin’ for blood, for sure. The damned-able cretin…
–The KKK took my country away…
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 amKKKlinton deeeeeeeed it toooOOOOooooOOOOooooOOooooo!
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:07 amdidnt thompson vote for the clinton impeachment, based on pretty much the same charges?
what a difference 8 years make…
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:13 amThis will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.
Fred Thompson
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:13 am—————————————————————————–
Yeah , because everyone that performs a traitorous act like outing an undercover CIA officer in the name of a political smear tactic/retribution , is always looked upon with askance and as a “good American” , Fred ……..
I appreciate Fred Thompson for letting us know exactly where he stands: for party loyalty, for acts of treason, and against national security and the rule of law.
No wonder conservatives adore Thompson so much–he hates America as much as they do.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:31 amLibby’s defenders claim that Scooter has performed a great deal of service on behalf of the American people. What exactly has Scooter done and when did he do it?
Did he serve in the military? Fight for the rights of minorities? Rush into burning buildings to save kittens? Give free bar-mitzvah lessons?
Irving Libby is nothing more than a spoiled rich kid turned servant-mouthpiece for other over-privileged warmongers and hoarders. Wolfowitz was his mentor.
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:13 amThompson’s not crazy, he just needs a little fresh air.
Romney, strap Libby & me to the top of the van. Road trip!
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:29 am“Scoot, don’t know about you . . . but you know . . . 85 MPH headwind and all . . . feelin’ a little queezy. you?”
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:33 amooh. not good. . .
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:35 amught oh . . .
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:37 am[Meanwhile, kids in the car]
. . . .oh gross, DAD, Dad! aaaak! LOOK! There’s all this . . .
[Back on top of the van - plien air cafe] -
Libby: This is not my fault!
Thompson: Uno momento Scoot. You remember that time you and Cheney downed dos/tres/quatros cervezas and went duck hunting. . . . next thin y’know, dick shot that ole Tex in the face? . . . technically, you’re a co-consipirator.
Libby: This so sux. . . . be cool! . . . . Uncle Scoot has food poisoning. Hose me off.
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:52 amFred Thompson:
July 3rd, 2007 at 6:56 am‘That’s how we do it on ‘Law & Order’ show..and that’s how I’ m going to be running America,If you are kind enough to vote for me”.
Excellent Fred. Can’t wait for you to explain your “One rule of law for us, one rule of law for everyone else” in Iowa.
July 3rd, 2007 at 7:31 amThis will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.
Presumably at an endowed chair at AEI or the Hudson Institute, and some other collection of right-wing pseudo-academics.
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:10 amI can’t wait to cast my vote for Fred. And for those of you who forget. Clinton pardoned a long list of real criminals and terrorists. So complain about your own hero first.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
ROTFL
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:20 am#153…
Happy Guy:
Keep waiting,and while doing that…get you a box of re-run videos of Thompson’s ‘Law & Order’ to feel even more happy..
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:41 amTo all those who said Thompson committed political suicide, keep in mind that
A) this site caters to people with a left-of-center point of view. Most people who use this site would probably not have voted for him anyway.
B) Very few people actually care about this case.
C) The voters who vote in Republican primaries (i.e. myself) think Libby should have been sentenced, but that 30 months was excessive. If you actually visited Fred Thompson’s website and looked at his statement from a couple weeks back, you would see a full explanation of his views on Libby. Not that it matters, since most people who visit this site will not be voting for any Republican, regardless.
D) Joe Wilson “outed” Valerie Plame at every capitol hill party they went to. Her status was no more of a secret than Dick Cheney’s (although there’s always the possibility he may be a robot…)
July 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 am#153 - Pres. Reagan pardoned just about as many people as Pres. reagan did.
I guess you hate Pres. Reagan as much as you hate Pres. Clinton, right? Unless you’re saying you ascribe to double-standards.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:03 amJoe Wilson “outed†Valerie Plame at every capitol hill party they went to. Her status was no more of a secret than Dick Cheney’s (although there’s always the possibility he may be a robot…)
Comment by DanWhoLikesPie — July 3, 2007 @ 8:47 am
Typical remark from a GOP knuckle-dragging nitwit.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:05 amCite your source for this drivel ; and before you even attempt to use NewsCrap or Sludge Report , make sure it’s a LEGITIMATE source……….
It’s all Clintons fault!
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:44 amThompson is pro-obstruction of justice.
“Conservatives” love him for that!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:22 amMister “Law and Order” uh huh!!!!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 amTypical remark from a GOP knuckle-dragging nitwit.
Cite your source for this drivel ; and before you even attempt to use NewsCrap or Sludge Report , make sure it’s a LEGITIMATE source……….
Comment by MCMetal — July 3, 2007 @ 9:05 am
He can’t do that. Only “sources” that dispute her NOC status are RW sites that put Republican politics before the good of the country. CIA says she was a NOC…that’s good enough for me.
July 3rd, 2007 at 3:03 pmWe should always refer to Thompson as “Hollywood Fred”.
July 3rd, 2007 at 6:26 pmhttp://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
check out clintons pardons. thanks
July 4th, 2007 at 4:14 pmhttp://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
check out slick willies pardons
July 4th, 2007 at 4:14 pmAs Senator Durbin said, “Even Paris Hilton had to go to jail”.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:54 pmCan someone explain the logic in “This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.” That is true, as his fine will not be paid by him, but by his supporters. But how does being a good American, who obstructed justice, make him immune from the rule of law?
Isn’t revealing the identity of a covert/clandestine operative not only warranted of a lifetime prison sentence but also fall under treason and thus, punishable by death?
Yah, Libby got scott free here, and Thompson is calling him an American hero…
Go back to making movies, Thompson. I liked you better when the only things that came out of your mouth were what was written on a script.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:31 pmNobody seems to note that “Folksy” Fred the people’s friend was a long time corporate lobbyist who helped get anti-consumer laws passed.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:49 pmFor those hung up on using Clinton as a measuring stick, let me speak up for those who did not, would not, could not vote for any kind of Clinton - or any other media-annointed warmed-over republican-lite candidate. Those are the people who help drag the honorable office of US President into the swamp it now occupies, enabling even one so reprehensible as Bush to continue to lower the bar with little or no media outcry (Keith Obermann, you’re the best - Thank You so much for your courage!). And to my fellow Progressives, be ready for another 4 years of hell, because I think you’re vastly overestimating voters’ capacity to examine the real issues. Personally, I think America is nothing short of doomed. And we deserve it.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:29 pmThere is reason that Bush didn’t give Libby a full pardon. Then he could be forced to testify before congress and wouldn’t be able take the 5th against self-incrimination, because he would not be in any jeopardy. Bush and Cheney don’t want him saying anything and they need to keep an ax over his head.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pmBTW, re: my last post, in case you missed it here’s what Obermann so eloquently said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
July 12th, 2007 at 2:45 pmFritzio - please explain how, exactly, it’s Clinton’s fault that we got Bush? I’ve heard this before, and I don’t get your point. Bush lowered the bar all by himself (well, ok, when I say Bush, I mean: bush, cheney, rumsfeld, rice, wolfowitz, pearl, rove, and minions like libby, card, gonzales)
So how did Clinton soil the office anywhere near what’s happened in the last 7 years? A stained dress? not even close, IMO… what’s yours?
And the progressive position here is like a punk attitude: I hate everyone, so I’m not going to play your game… great, that’s productive. Every “progressive” vote means one more point for the RepubliCON’s…
Folks, because of the Republicans, our house is on fire here. Arguing about potential water damage only allows the fire to do more damage. Enough is enough. Throws these bums out, and then start fixing the Dem’s later. Sure they need a lot of fixing, but crikey let’s put out the fire that’s burning NOW.
July 12th, 2007 at 6:43 pm“I know the families of convicted crack dealers will be happy because their sentences will now be reduced to the same coke dealers.
Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 8:06 pm”
The vast majority of crack users are black, same with the dealers. Having higher penalties for crack dealers and users unfairly targets black Americans. Dispute it, I dare you.
Everyone is so fired up about getting a Dem in office. Yeah, Mr. Bush is a lying snake. Name me one politician who is not. I’ll wait…
Yeah, I thought not. It’s always a choice of lesser evil, kids. When are we all going to realize that? I want the Bush Regime to end as badly as anyone, but we all need to remember the lesson of 2004: it’s not enough to just not be Bush. You need to really have something to offer. All I’ve heard so far is the same stuff we heard from Sen. Kerry last time. Push these guys to really stand out and then make them LIVE UP TO THEIR PROMISES!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 12:49 amFurthermore, I will NEVER vote for Billary. It’s not that what Bill Clinton did was so bad….
….if he had just OWNED UP TO IT! Lying and getting caught destroyed his credibility and ruined the rest of his term. Based on what I’ve seen so far, Obama is my horse, anyway.
To all who will undoubtably fly into a rage over some of my comments, fly away. The odds that I will ever be back to view responses is nill at best, so save your typing fingers some effort.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:55 amHarry, I hear you, really I do. But also, I’m not into today’s royal families (be it Bush, Clinton or what have you) and that alone would prevent me from voting for Hillary. I’ve voted for Nader the last 3 elections because I believe in voting for the best person running; the candidate who’s willing to recognize and speak to the ROOT problems. Personally, I don’t feel I owe it to anyone to do otherwise.
To me, my vote is a statement as much as anything. Because nowadays, I think the R’s and D’s are so much alike (with a few exceptions like Feingold, who I’m proud to say is my Senator) in their total lack of attention to US foreign policy and its causal effect upon terrorism, that it makes little difference which of the two I vote for. I might even vote for that R from Texas who’s talking about eliminating the CIA, etc. Now THERE is a root problem that, unless addressed, will continue to foster violence, ad infinitum.
But to answer your question: I believe Clinton lowered the bar to the point where the opposition can legitimately say, “Well, Clinton… lied… pardoned… **cked us…” and all the other crap you can find in the diatribes above. You and I might be smart enough to see the difference between a BJ and killing 650,000 people, but try as we might, we can bring the electorate to the water but we can’t make ‘em drink.
Ergo, my prognosis for the coming election and for America’s dim future. On the other hand, I hope I’m very, very wrong.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI am amazed I read all this, ranting and raving. Everyone thinks they are right or have all the facts and no one does, but everyone thinks THEY have the answers. Yes, the comments we make say something about our character - hear it, research it, make a decision, and get over it. Is all this really necessary? It seemed like an excercise in who can tick the others off. Doesn’t anyone here have anything better to do, like get out and make a difference for the BETTER, not making excuses for others and supporting the status quo? Uh, oh. Does that make me a republican? democrat? liberal? progressive? neocon? christian? athiest? You all know what is RIGHT - just do it. I just came to this site to find out something about Fred, someone I’ve admired on TV for most of my life. Guess he’s just not the right one for the job. By the way, we’ve never had a perfect president and if we did I would wonder what planet he/she came from. But my advice? Choose someone who does not shred the constitution - or we’re going backwards instead of forwards - I’m for forward and the future. :-)
July 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pmTake our healthcare “system” (please?). I can pretty much guarantee that Hillary and Barak have been getting those HUGE war-chests filled largely by BigInsurancePharMed (whatever you want to call ‘em all), who realize their Republican elves might be in for a whuppin’. Why do I say that?
All I hear from Clinton/Obama is a continuation of half-baked hybrid ideas instead of the system that Americans (70%!) want and every other industrialized country has: National Single-Payer (NSP). And you folks wonder why a responsible smallbusinessman like myself is voting for Kucinich (or Nader if Kucinich isn’t nominated)? Do you have any employees? Do you have an accountant for god’s sake? Do you look at the freakin’ numbers?
What is destroying American entreprenueurism and free market spirit is our healthcare system! How many brilliant young people are flocking to corporations (where they get bored and let their brains rot) instead of charging ahead with really new ideas? How can we blame them for wanting healthcare security (as if) for their families? Think of the impact to come soon, now that every sector must meet/exceed global competitors.
Vote PROGRESSIVE until the Dems become part of the solution! That’s how Clintonism got replace by Deanism, that’s how a Republican Congress got replaced by a Democratic Congress … and it’s the only way the New Silent Majority (70% for NSP/70% for No More War!) will start getting what we want. It’s only because The People are making waves that the Dem boat is finally glancing back at shore. But as evidenced by polls on their performance, they still haven’t even turned around!
So, don’t whine about us Progressives. We’re the ones with the vision to forego short-term band-aids for long-term solutions — until Dems finally realize they have to kick the lobbyists out! NO MORE REPUBLICAN-LITE!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:52 pm