All I hear from Clinton/Obama is a continuation of half-baked hybrid ideas instead of the system that Americans (70%!) want and every other industrialized country has: National Single-Payer (NSP). And you folks wonder why a responsible smallbusinessman like myself is voting for Kucinich (or Nader if Kucinich isn’t nominated)? Do you have any employees? Do you have an accountant for god’s sake? Do you look at the freakin’ numbers?

What is destroying American entreprenueurism and free market spirit is our healthcare system! How many brilliant young people are flocking to corporations (where they get bored and let their brains rot) instead of charging ahead with really new ideas? How can we blame them for wanting healthcare security (as if) for their families? Think of the impact to come soon, now that every sector must meet/exceed global competitors.

Vote PROGRESSIVE until the Dems become part of the solution! That’s how Clintonism got replace by Deanism, that’s how a Republican Congress got replaced by a Democratic Congress … and it’s the only way the New Silent Majority (70% for NSP/70% for No More War!) will start getting what we want. It’s only because The People are making waves that the Dem boat is finally glancing back at shore. But as evidenced by polls on their performance, they still haven’t even turned around!

So, don’t whine about us Progressives. We’re the ones with the vision to forego short-term band-aids for long-term solutions — until Dems finally realize they have to kick the lobbyists out! NO MORE REPUBLICAN-LITE!

To me, my vote is a statement as much as anything. Because nowadays, I think the R’s and D’s are so much alike (with a few exceptions like Feingold, who I’m proud to say is my Senator) in their total lack of attention to US foreign policy and its causal effect upon terrorism, that it makes little difference which of the two I vote for. I might even vote for that R from Texas who’s talking about eliminating the CIA, etc. Now THERE is a root problem that, unless addressed, will continue to foster violence, ad infinitum.

But to answer your question: I believe Clinton lowered the bar to the point where the opposition can legitimately say, “Well, Clinton… lied… pardoned… **cked us…” and all the other crap you can find in the diatribes above. You and I might be smart enough to see the difference between a BJ and killing 650,000 people, but try as we might, we can bring the electorate to the water but we can’t make ‘em drink.

Ergo, my prognosis for the coming election and for America’s dim future. On the other hand, I hope I’m very, very wrong.

….if he had just OWNED UP TO IT! Lying and getting caught destroyed his credibility and ruined the rest of his term. Based on what I’ve seen so far, Obama is my horse, anyway.

To all who will undoubtably fly into a rage over some of my comments, fly away. The odds that I will ever be back to view responses is nill at best, so save your typing fingers some effort.

Comment by leftcoast — July 2, 2007 @ 8:06 pm”

The vast majority of crack users are black, same with the dealers. Having higher penalties for crack dealers and users unfairly targets black Americans. Dispute it, I dare you.

Everyone is so fired up about getting a Dem in office. Yeah, Mr. Bush is a lying snake. Name me one politician who is not. I’ll wait…

Yeah, I thought not. It’s always a choice of lesser evil, kids. When are we all going to realize that? I want the Bush Regime to end as badly as anyone, but we all need to remember the lesson of 2004: it’s not enough to just not be Bush. You need to really have something to offer. All I’ve heard so far is the same stuff we heard from Sen. Kerry last time. Push these guys to really stand out and then make them LIVE UP TO THEIR PROMISES!!!

So how did Clinton soil the office anywhere near what’s happened in the last 7 years? A stained dress? not even close, IMO… what’s yours?

And the progressive position here is like a punk attitude: I hate everyone, so I’m not going to play your game… great, that’s productive. Every “progressive” vote means one more point for the RepubliCON’s…

Folks, because of the Republicans, our house is on fire here. Arguing about potential water damage only allows the fire to do more damage. Enough is enough. Throws these bums out, and then start fixing the Dem’s later. Sure they need a lot of fixing, but crikey let’s put out the fire that’s burning NOW.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/

Yah, Libby got scott free here, and Thompson is calling him an American hero…

Go back to making movies, Thompson. I liked you better when the only things that came out of your mouth were what was written on a script.

check out slick willies pardons

check out clintons pardons. thanks

Comment by MCMetal — July 3, 2007 @ 9:05 am

He can’t do that. Only “sources” that dispute her NOC status are RW sites that put Republican politics before the good of the country. CIA says she was a NOC…that’s good enough for me.

“Conservatives” love him for that!

Comment by DanWhoLikesPie — July 3, 2007 @ 8:47 am

Typical remark from a GOP knuckle-dragging nitwit.
Cite your source for this drivel ; and before you even attempt to use NewsCrap or Sludge Report , make sure it’s a LEGITIMATE source……….