Novak: Libby camp angry at Bush.
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Novak: Libby camp angry at Bush.
Robert Novak writes: “Bush is blamed by friends of Libby for losing control of the Plame investigation by putting it in the hands of a special prosecutor — the U.S. attorney in Chicago, Patrick Fitzgerald. In his decision sparing Libby jail time, Bush did not say a word of criticism about Fitzgerald.”
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Novak should be doing time with Libby.
WTF? Who gives a rat’s ass what this retarded, stoned bullfrog thinks.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:42 amHeh. Now that’s what I’m talkin’ about….
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:42 amNovak?! Jeebus, but he’s got some nerve. He should be rotting in prison right now.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:43 amNovak is a traitor. He voluntarily assisted the Bush Administration outing a CIA operative for partisan political purposes, and he’s just as guilty as they are at treason.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:45 amBut it’s just dawning on Bush that there’ll be no one to pardon him in 2009. And it’s likely he and his band of merry men will be faces charges once reasonable people (that is, Democrats) get a look at all those records.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:46 amIn fact, why did Bush ever let it go as far as trial? Why didn’t he tell Libby to ignore the subpeona like the rest of the administration does? Why this ridiculous charade that Republicans are subject to the law? If Bush were really a conservative, he would have declared martial law and deep-sixed the Constitution by now. I’m disgusted.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:47 amOh..These people didn’t even want the whole thing investigated…
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:51 amThey are now showing their real skin color.
They want Bush to criticise the law officers and the court,but not the criminal…
and thus swings the hammer against the republican party once more, chipping away at the fabric of the party ’til nothing remains…
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:53 amAnd the CIA now hates them. Look for a series of mysterious deaths among the Republican leadership.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:54 amOne less supporter for Bush & Co. I think that brings the number nationwide to about 18.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:55 amWell, Bush also didn’t pardon Libby. He doesn’t give a shit about Libby.
This was merely a favor to Cheney, who has been lawyering up for this for years. Bush and Cheney (esp. State and Cheney) are mad at each other right now, so Bush did only the bare minimum for Libby.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:57 am.
Nothing for the Bushco Family to criticize Fitz about. They are not going to take on this guy now…They would rather he goes away quietly. America is looking for some leadership and that is why people responded so strongly to Fitzgerald…He represents the rule of law, non-partisan and truthful. A smear job by the Bushies would only serve to bring Fitzgerald forward further…Too bad he won’t just step up and keep digging into the rats nest at the WH.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:57 amI have voted for Democrats for over a decade, but I tell you what. If a Republican with real integrity like Patrick Fitzgerald ran for an elected office, I’d probably vote for him.
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:58 amWonder if Fitz can prosecute these jackals at the ICC??
HA!
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:59 amWhy is that likely ? Are you basing it on what has occurred before when a new administration takes over from one who committed a crime ?
Nixon got a pass on all his gear as did Clinton on an admission of committing perjury. Shit if Clinton bothered charging Bush Snr with all the shit he was into he’d still be in court. There’d be witnesses lined up from DC to Seattle.
Nobody is going to charge Bush with anything once he leaves office.
And judging by how things have gone, nobody is going to charge him while he’s in office either.
Stop kidding yourself.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 amYou may as well be saying “But a President wouldn’t lie to the public” when once again 100% of all examples in living memory prove you wrong.
So Scooter essentially gets away with his crimes, and all they can say is that the White House shouldn’t have even let it come to investigation? That it should have been handled in house so it could have just been swept away and thus make the public even more suspicious?
Corrupt and ungrateful. Geez.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 amIn the words of Michelle Malkindinejad: Boo-fricken-hoo!
-GSD
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:04 amAnd the CIA now hates them. Look for a series of mysterious deaths among the Republican leadership.
Comment by Perry Logan — July 3, 2007 @ 9:54 am
Have you noticed this about the cons? They don’t ever consider who they are pissing off…
Wouldn’t you think that making enemies with the people who control the weapons (military) or the ability to make you disappear (CIA) is a bad move?
Sociopaths are self-destructive. Clearly they care more about being in total control than being alive… Sheesh…
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:05 amBush and Cheney and Libby are TRAITORS who need to be tortured at Gitmo
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 amIn the words of Michelle Malkindinejad: Boo-fricken-hoo!
Comment by GSD — July 3, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Way too funny!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 amLibby was the Small Fish
Bush really Commuted the Sentences of Rove and Cheney
George H. W. Bush called those who leak the names of CIA operatives “the most insidious of traitors.â€
Scott McClellan, said:
“If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.â€
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:08 ambull.they will go after the lying cheating bastards and nail them for war crimes. The evil doers are in the WH. The real terrorist threat to our country is GWBush and his criminal cabal. Anyone who supports these felons is also a criminal. This whole right wing party is immoral, disgusting and the enemy of America and the rule of law.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 amWhat a bunch of losers Bush supporters are.
George H. W. Bush called those who leak the names of CIA operatives “the most insidious of traitors.â€
he had his fingers crossed
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 amHey look! An internal White House phone directory! Lets see if we can get Cheney on the line!
http://www.freewebs.com/whitehousedirectory/
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 amPresident Bush is really turning out to be a stand up guy. He spared the jail time of the guy taking the fall for things the Pres and VP had orchestrated. I figured that he would just let him sit in prison until he was done in Jan. 09 and pardon him then.
Way to go Bush :(
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:13 amNovak, Rove and Cheney should all have been indicted by Fitzgerald.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:14 amSo it’s not enough that Libby gets off scot-free; now they’re mad because Chimpy didn’t go far enough? Even when I think I’ve heard it all, they keep coming up with new ways to push the frontiers of arrogance further and further to the right…
Oh, and trolls — don’t give us either (a) Clinton Did It Too(TM); or (b) But Scooter’s Still Gonna Pay a $250K Fine and “Serve” Two Years’ Probation. On (a), who gives a rats’ patootie — if it’s wrong, it’s wrong; and on (b) raise your hand if you think Scooter will pay that fine himself instead of it being paid by his republic party friends (no hands — I thought so…), or if you think he’ll have to wait very long before landing a six-figure job with a right wing “think” tank (no hands again — how predictable).
This was nothing but Chimpy paying off Scooter for being a loyal brownshirt and keeping his mouth shut so BushCo could continue their outright looting of the country.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:14 amLibby better watch out for CIA ASSASSINS.
Comng to a TRAITOR near YOU….
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:14 am“I respect the jury’s verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby’s sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison.”
George W Bushelofcocaine -
July 02 , 2007
You don’t have respect for anything or anyone , you grinning , braying , stupid-looking jackass ……. You barely graduated college (thanks to your old man) , with a business degree ; you now are under the laughable delusion that you’re qualified to bloviate about the law ?
And Bob Nosack , who has yet to figure out that he should either learn himself or hire someone to take care of eyebrows that look like gigantic hairy bugs and who was complicit in the outing of an undercover CIA officer , is prattling on and chastising our idiotic president for not putting this case in the hands of Judge Joe Browne or Wapner ?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:15 amBoy, oh boy. As a registered Democrat I am anxious to see what happens when the “loyal Bushie” US Attorneys start applying the “Bushie Rule” to the now corrupt justuce system.
Judge: What is your party affiliation?
Defednant: Democratic.
Judge: I sentence you to death!
Defendant(being dragged away by hooded goons): But it was only a parking ticket?
Judge: It’s Giuliani Time!
-GSD
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:16 amGO CIA ASSASSINS!!!
FIND Mr. Libby and “talk” some to him…
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:18 amIt’s actually funny to peruse the left wing blogs and witness the histrionics from all the moonbats on this Libby thing. I could show all the hippie scum the rogue’s gallery of scumbags Clinton PARDONED, Kennedy, FDR etc. etc. My personal favorite was “he was going to flip on the Bush/Cheney junta.” LOL!!! Hilarious. Nobody outed Valerie Plame, there was no crime but (ummm) you don’t care about facts. Just hate Bush. Hate Bush.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:19 am#22 bull.they will go after the lying cheating bastards and nail them for war crimes.
Comment by Justice
Sadly, I wish what you say to be true, but it will only happen if the rest of the world goes after them.
The current leadership(?) of this country (yes, the Dems too) have no backbone and are all so lobbied up with too much money and/or too much worry about the next election to do anything other than talk.
We are now in a Twilight Zone of having no real representation OF the people, FOR the People…. and forget BY the people!
Maybe it will take an even greater disaster than the BushCo regime to get changes in this country. If so, I shudder to think what that might be.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:20 amPresident Bush is really turning out to be a stand up guy. He spared the jail time of the guy taking the fall for things the Pres and VP had orchestrated. I figured that he would just let him sit in prison until he was done in Jan. 09 and pardon him then.
Way to go Bush :(
Comment by b40 — July 3, 2007 @ 10:13 am
“Stand up guys” do not commute prison sentences through written statements , after 5 PM , during a holiday week while the entire government is on vacation ………..
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:21 amBush Sr. pardoned INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST Orlando Bosch and the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS, calling them “patriots”.
Marc Rich’s lawyer was a CONVICTED FELON—Scooter Libby.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:21 am“to the now corrupt justuce system.”
Bill Clinton corrupted the justice system when he lied under oath and pardoned Marc Rich for money to his library.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:22 amIran-Contra criminal Elliott Abrams, now a deputy National Security Agency adviser to Bush, essentially committed the same crime as Libby, though he only pled guilty to withholding information from Congress.
Abrams was pardoned by George H. W. Bush, and then his son hired him. Congress, which should have been permanently outraged by having been misled by Abrams, gave him a pass. A far rightwing Likudnik, he has been handling Palestine issues for Bush!
So, like father like son.
Except for that vision thing about the insidious traitors.
Basically, in Bushworld, high government officials are above the law, including all international law and most domestic. America is not nearly as much fun if you aren’t rich.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:22 am“do not commute prison sentences through written statements , after 5 PM , during a holiday week”
You stupid idiot. You’re just repeating what you heard last night on Hardball.
Bush did the right thing by commuting the sentence, to bring it more in line what Samual Berger and Bill Clinton got when they lied under oath.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 amThe most corrupt administration in U.S. history leaves America a dangerous precedent - they’ve proven you can break the law with impunity, as long as you are a Republican.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:25 amIt’s actually funny to peruse the left wing blogs and witness the histrionics from all the moonbats on this Libby thing. I could show all the hippie scum the rogue’s gallery of scumbags Clinton PARDONED, Kennedy, FDR etc. etc. My personal favorite was “he was going to flip on the Bush/Cheney junta.†LOL!!! Hilarious. Nobody outed Valerie Plame, there was no crime but (ummm) you don’t care about facts. Just hate Bush. Hate Bush.
Comment by Glen — July 3, 2007 @ 10:19 am
Hippies ? Glen Speck
There was “no crime” ?
So Scooter Libby was convicted and was going to be sent to prison for 30 months for absolutely no reason ?
What an atypical GOP/Chimpy apologist parrot tool you are ……..
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:25 am“they’ve proven you can break the law with impunity, as long as you are a Republican.”
William Jefferson is still sitting in congress. Pelosi refuses to kick him out.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 amCIA HIT MEN, Scooter is your “man”!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 am“There was “no crime†?”
No there wasn’t. There should have been no trial in the first place. Armatage was the “leaker.” Case closed.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 am#38 You stupid idiot. You’re just repeating what you heard last night on Hardball. Comment by Dennis Bocinich
Thank you for my first real laugh this morning. Every RW troll that has ever come here (you included, see the “but… but Clinton did it”, in an earlier post), regurgitates the Rover Talking Points broadcast by the rusher, and all the Faux NoNooz Krew.
Wish we could see at least ONE REAL RW Advocate, not just another BushCo NeoCon puppet.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 amDennis Penisnich,
Sandy Berger as tried and convicted.
Bill Clinton was tried and aqcuitted.
The Republican Party is for law and order for the little people. They don’t believe laws apply to the Washington Elite.
Lawyers, lawyers helping lawyers.
-GSD
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 amGeorge H. W. Bush called those who leak the names of CIA operatives “the most insidious of traitors.â€
One more reason for W to obstruct justice. He hates his old man.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:30 am.
Good to know that the next time I lie to the FBI about leaking classified national security information used to start WW3, if my friend’s friend is the Pretzeldent, I get off scot-free.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:30 amTorture Cheney at Gitmo until his “heart” gives out…
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 amPenis Bocinich,
Jefferson hasn’t been tried or convicted yet. But you, as a an uptight rightwinger assumes he’s guilty because he’s African-American.
Typical racist loser.
-GSD
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 amJust hate Bush. Hate Bush.
Comment by Glen — July 3, 2007 @ 10:19 am
Ever notice how the only ones using the word ‘hate’ so much are the cons? LOL
Hate is all they see because it’s all they feel…
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 amGeorge H. W. Bush called those who leak the names of CIA operatives “the most insidious of traitors.â€
One more reason for W to obstruct justice. He hates his old man.
————–
Armatage leaked the name.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 amNow we can indict Libby for the “real crime” of TREASON!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 amDennis Bocinich,
“Pelosi refuses to kick him out.”
Just as the President can’t ‘kick out’ the Vice-President, neither can Pelosi kick out Jefferson. He was duly elected by the people of his district. He can, and should, resign. Other than that, Pelosi has no power to kick him out.
Could you imagine the chaos that would ensue if she could arbitrarily kick out duly elected members of the house.
Talk about a veto proof majority.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 am“do not commute prison sentences through written statements , after 5 PM , during a holiday weekâ€
You stupid idiot. You’re just repeating what you heard last night on Hardball.
Bush did the right thing by commuting the sentence, to bring it more in line what Samual Berger and Bill Clinton got when they lied under oath.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich — July 3, 2007 @ 10:23 am
Show me a transcript of “Hardball” where that is stated , Dennis Ballsacklick.
Berger and Clinton didn’t out an undercover CIA officer , you ridiculously stupid bag of crap.
What is it with all these GOP/Chimpy rim licking brainless shitheads ?
Do you understand how pathetically feeble-minded you morons are , by claiming “but but but Clinton” , over every single incident ?
BTW
Clinton produced a surplus , is still adored around the world , and is 100 times more respected and listened to by everyone on the planet ; save you 20%’ers.
The most clinically and galactically stupid losers ever shit out……….
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:32 amWhat’s more….Bush’s numbers will descend into the teens with this tacit approval of lawlessness in this country.
This was “bush’s tacit incitement of total anarchy” in this country!
Other than that, he’s now placed his final coffin in his own party….the GOP will soon be gone totally since it’s clearly now the “party of anarchy”.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:33 amArmatage [sic] was the “leaker.†Case closed.
Wow, you people get dumber all the time. Can’t spell and can’t tell time.
Armitage wasn’t the first leaker, he was just Novak’s source. Armitage didn’t commit perjury or obstruct justice. Armitage didn’t change his story to protect the administration.
Scooter did, a jury agreed. Hell, right now even Bush agrees to that.
Furthermore, Armitage’s position makes it very hard to prosecute him under the statute as written because he can’t be shown to have known Plame’s status. Scooter has no such defense because of his interactions with Cheney.
Another dumbass conservative bitchslapped by a thinking person.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:33 am.
“they’ve proven you can break the law with impunity, as long as you are a Republican.â€
William Jefferson is still sitting in congress. Pelosi refuses to kick him out.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich — July 3, 2007 @ 10:28 am
When was William Jefferson’s trial and conviction , you ignorant and partisan GOP assclown ?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:33 amArmatage leaked the name.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich — July 3, 2007 @ 10:31 am
Libby wasn’t convicted for leaking. He was convicted for perjury and obstruction of justice.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 am“Berger and Clinton didn’t out an undercover CIA officer , you ridiculously stupid bag of crap.”
Neither did Scooter Libby. Berger and Clinton did, however, lie under oath. Forget about that, dipshit?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 amDennis,
For the record, I want William Jefferson out of congress. I hold politicians to the same standard of legality, regardless of their party. Can you say the same thing?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 amDennis Bocinich,
“There should have been no trial in the first place. Armatage was the “leaker.†Case closed.”
If that’s the case, and there was no crime, why was Libby lying about it?
Do you think obstruction and perjury are serious offenses that are worthy of jail time?
Shouldn’t Libby at least seen the same amount of time that Paris Hilton got?
He lied to federal investigators. He broke the law.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 amArmatage leaked the name.
Yup, Armitage, Libby AND Rove. At the request of Cheney.
It ALL came out in the trial.
But Libby PERJURED and OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE, keeping Fitzgerald from doing his job in FINDING OUT THE TRUTH.
So, Libby is now a CONVICTED FELON, and Bush acknowledged it.
Anyway, they are ALL TRAITORS who need to be TORTURED at Gitmo
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 am“Libby wasn’t convicted for leaking.”
No s*it, dumbass. It wasn’t a crime to “out” a desk jockey.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 amI’m just wondering what the legal experts will say…perhaps this is a good thing so he can now be accused of the crime for which he really should deserve time?? Treason! And, while they’re at it, let’s charge with Cheney and Bush with treason as well.
Otherwise, pure anarchy is just around the corner. Right now, people know they can perjure themselves under oath and just get slapped with a fine. Big deal!!
So now along with condoning torture, we can add perjury to our list of accepted practices…..certainly Sodom & Gomorrah had nothing on this country!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 amArmatage leaked the name.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich
Read pages 10 and 11 of Fitzgerald’s report.
In ENGLISH this time, OK?
Moron.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 am.
And maybe now the people will go after Robert Novak’s head as well. After all, this skag was at the pulse of it all and somehow slimed himself through the cracks. Let’s investigate Robert Novak now!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 am“There was “no crime†?â€
No there wasn’t. There should have been no trial in the first place. Armatage was the “leaker.†Case closed.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich — July 3, 2007 @ 10:29 am
You just admitted someone was a “leaker”.
It is a crime to leak the name of a covert CIA officer , you retarded monkey dick ……….
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 amBush did the right thing by commuting the sentence, to bring it more in line what Samual Berger and Bill Clinton got when they lied under oath.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich — July 3, 2007 @ 10:23 am
I don’t recall either Clinton or Berger being tried and found guilty in a court of law for these crimes. Can you point me to a link?
Thanks.
They must have been because otherwise you, being a responsible poster, would not have tried to create a moral equivalency between a convicted felon and two public servants that you are convinced “did the same thing”, would you? I mean, surely, a lengthy, detailed criminal trial that ends in conviction on four of five counts must hold some kind of weight, right?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 am“Shouldn’t Libby at least seen the same amount of time that Paris Hilton got?”
I think he should have gotten the same amount of time that Bill Clinton and Sandy Berger got when they lied under oath and obstructed justice, which is what he did get.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 amTalk about “gift horsing” it, jeez, next he’ll be complaining about the $250K his FRIENDS will pay AND that he’s on probation. And exactly what will constitute violating his probation? This guy better be squeaky clean for the next two years.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 amLet’s go after Armitage as well since it was disclosed in the offical trial transcripts that he was also involved…..and then Rove….Cheney and Bush himself. They all need to be put on trial for this flagrant treasonous criminal action.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 amNo s*it, dumbass. It wasn’t a crime to “out†a desk jockey.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich
The CIA can confirm her covert status again and again, and the bushtards will continue to deny it.
This is what happens when you let creationists out of the trailer park.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 am.
This will be the international headlines tomorrow circulating around the world:
“PARIS HILTON GOES TO JAIL FOR DUI; SCOOTER LIBBY GETS NO JAIL TIME FOR PERJURY”…..
What else can the rest of the world think about us? They have to believe we’re a group of very sick, demented individuals.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 am“Armitage wasn’t the first leaker, he was just Novak’s source. ”
How stupid are you? The Novak column is why whe are all talking about this.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 amNo s*it, dumbass. It wasn’t a crime to “out†a desk jockey.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich — July 3, 2007 @ 10:35 am
You’re the one who claimed the crime was ‘leaking’, so I guess you consider yourself the dumbass for suggesting it.
No argument from me. LOL
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 amMe thinks Castro had a hand in this too!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 amDennis Bocinich,
“I think he should have gotten the same amount of time that Bill Clinton and Sandy Berger got when they lied under oath and obstructed justice, which is what he did get.”
Let me paraphrase for you.
If a Democrat commits a crime first and gets away with it, then Republicans get too as well. I do not hold my party to a higher standard. I do not belive ein the rule of law.”
There ya go!!
And allow me to steal Jakes line here..
For the record, I think Bill Clinton should have been impeached for perjury and obstruction. (And for dooming our country to those terrible free trade deals) But if that would have happened, Bush never would have become PResident. Al Gore would have become an incumbent, and he would have won much larger than he already won!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 amAnd, of course, perjury in the “treasonous action of outing a covert CIA operative”…..and he gets nothing but a fine and a slap on the wrist…..
Guess Bush is just hoping that he will be given the same sentence when his jail time rolls around?
This is the only logical conclusion of bush’s actions. Otherwise, it becomes clear that bush is a very sick, twisted sociopath himself.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 amthey have no need to be angry… Bush got Libby out of jail, and while the conviction still stands, it’s also on appeal… Libby may yet escape any consequences for his actions…
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 amLibby camp is pissed because of justice? Oh, they meant “just us”, now I understand :-)
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 am“Libby wasn’t convicted for leaking.â€
No s*it, dumbass. It wasn’t a crime to “out†a desk jockey.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich — July 3, 2007 @ 10:35 am
Plame was ‘covert’ agent at time of name leak
Newly released unclassified document details CIA employment
NBC VIDEO
By Joel Seidman
Producer
NBC News
Updated: 4:24 p.m. ET May 29, 2007
WASHINGTON - An unclassified summary of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame’s employment history at the spy agency, disclosed for the first time today in a court filing by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, indicates that Plame was “covert” when her name became public in July 2003.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18924679/
Where’s a link reaffirming your stupid , bullshit claim ?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 amNeither did Scooter Libby. Berger and Clinton did, however, lie under oath. Forget about that, dipshit?
Actually Libby LIED UNDER OATH. It’s one of his FELONY CONVICTIONS. That and FALSE STATEMENTS TO THE FBI.
Clinton or Berger have FELONY CONVICTIONS??
Nope…
And WATCH OUT FOR CIA ASSASSINS, cooter!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 amLet’s face it TP friends - did anyone really believe that the criminal Shrub would NOT do this?? Of course, we knew he would and it was just a matter of time.
Unfortunately, for the GOP candidates now, their time and money will be all in vain because by Bush doing this right now, he’s definitely destroyed the Republican Party’s chances of ever seeing the White House in 08, probably 12, and perhaps never again.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 amDennis Bocinich,
You are so mis-informed. Did you know that the CIA Director sent a letter to the House Oversight Committee saying that she was undercover? Obviously not. It appears, as usual, that facts don’t matter to you guys.
On March 8, 2007, two days after the verdict in the Libby trial, Congressman Henry Waxman, chair of the U.S. House Committee on Government Reform, announced that his committee would ask Valerie E. Wilson to testify on March 16, in an effort by his committee to look into “whether White House officials followed appropriate procedures for safeguarding Plame’s identity.”
On March 16, 2007, at these hearings about the disclosure, Chairman Henry Waxman read a statement about Plame’s CIA career that had been cleared by CIA director Gen. Michael V. Hayden and the CIA:
During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover.
Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak’s column on July 14, 2003, Ms. Wilson’s CIA employment status was covert.
This was classified information.
Ms. Wilson served in senior management positions at the CIA, in which she oversaw the work of other CIA employees, and she attained the level of GS-14, step 6 under the federal pay scale.
Ms. Wilson worked on some of the most sensitive and highly secretive matters handled by the CIA.
Ms. Wilson served at various times overseas for the CIA.
Without discussing the specifics of Ms. Wilson’s classified work, it is accurate to say that she worked on the prevention of the development and use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States.
In her various positions at the CIA, Ms. Wilson faced significant risks to her personal safety and her life.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 amFor the record, I think Bill Clinton should have been impeached for perjury and obstruction. (And for dooming our country to those terrible free trade deals) But if that would have happened, Bush never would have become PResident. Al Gore would have become an incumbent, and he would have won much larger than he already won!
Comment by Crump’s Brother — July 3, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Umm… CB, if memory serves, Clinton WAS impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice, and acquitted in the Senate.
Troll du Jour has no ground on which to stand. None. That’s why he has to spin so furiously, to keep himself aloft.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:42 amHow stupid are you? The Novak column is why whe are all talking about this.
Comment by Dennis Bocinich
How stupid am I? You’re the one who doesn’t know fact one about the case. It become a crime at the point of leak, not the point of publishing. Remember Judith Miller? Hello? Dumbass?
But you’re the idiot who thinks she wasn’t covert, so what should I expect? You’re really not up to this, are you? No wonder you’re a conservative. That’s the best you can do.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 am.
This is just prima facie evidence of how sick this president actually is. He’s totally lost touch with reality - even his own reality of “partisan politics” infiltrating everything he does. He’s clearly lost it and you will see Repubs jumping ship by the droves now. They’re “damaged goods”….. which Bush just damaged some more.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 amThere’s virtually nothing left to any credibility within this party - Bush’s shot holes in everything this party stands for or once stood for, as the case actually is.
Or perhaps he’s merely setting precedent for his own trial and conviction….a nice cushy slap on the wrist and a fine….
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:44 amspit take,
Sorry not to be more specific. I felt he should have been removed from office.
Feel better?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:44 amComment by Crump’s Brother — July 3, 2007 @ 10:41 am
The trolls cannot, and will not, hear you.
SOMEBODY told them she wasn’t covert, and no actual evidence will sway them.
This is who we need to take this country back from — and if we could get our shit together, we might just do it. :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:45 amCrump’s Brother: Thanks for the Plame background. All informed, intelligent people know that Plame was definitely covert during the time of her treasonous outing. However, just like the 5 year search for WMD, the recent attempt to link 911 and Saddam, and the rest of the lies these sickos are spinning because they are living in a state of total and utter delusion…..EVERYONE KNOWS…AND HAS DOCUMENTS & STATEMENTS FROM HER EMPLOYER TO PROVE IT….
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 amRight, Zooey. Trolls are synonymous with brainwashed fools so nothing anyone says to provide actual documentation or proof has any bearing in their altered state of reality….so why bother?
The mere attempt to persuade a troll is an exercise in futility and only serves to acknowledge their existence. Ignoring trolls frustrates them and eventually they will slink off to their putrid corner from which they came.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:48 amNot to mention that Armitage wasn’t Novak’s only source … according to Novak himself.
Duh!
Stupid little troll, shilling for treason. He obviously doesn’t give a damn about his country, assuming he was ever an American to begin with. The way dumbass spells, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a hired troll writing from Mumbai.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 am.
The head of the CIA said “Their is no doubt” that Valerie Plame was undercover.
End of story for the reality based human being.
Beginning of cartoonland for the Bush licking freak.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 amBesides, if the trolls would intelligently fact check, they would realize that their point is inaccurate - in fact, moot in most cases.
If they did this, however, they’d have nothing credible to spew on these threads, would they?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 amAbsolutely! The day a troll “shills for treason” is the day that all trolls lose ALL credibility . Treasonous shilling trolls epitomize the most decrepit characteristics of human nature and should be totally shunned.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:52 amZooey,
“The trolls cannot, and will not, hear you.”
ah Zooey. The voice of reason.
I know you’re right. I just can’t take the one talking however that she was a desk jockey.
It’s so obvious that these people are being misled by their choices of information. Hell, something like 40% of the country thinks Iraq was directly involved in 9-11.
I’m not sure why I ackowledge them. Obviously my passions are up today.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:53 amThey’re all “$hit shilling trolls”…..or $hit slinging treasonous shilling trolls……now this is beginning to get alliterative…..anyone who composes lyrics among us?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:54 amtongue twisters and $hit-shilling trolls….tralalalala.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:54 am#88 Zooey
SO TRUE! See my post #33 above. Kinda makes you sad, doesn’t it?
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 amThe mere attempt to persuade a troll is an exercise in futility and only serves to acknowledge their existence. Ignoring trolls frustrates them and eventually they will slink off to their putrid corner from which they came.
Comment by veritas
You are correct, sir. :)
I’ve been engaging trolls less and less, and find that they seek me out less often. I really don’t mind. Heh.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 am#89
All informed, intelligent people know that Plame was definitely covert during the time of her treasonous outing.
True, but that is not what is reported in the media, who let lies float into the atmosphere without challenge. When the CIA proved that Plame was undercover and working for an undercover operation, when they proved that her work as a so-called analyst for Brester Jennings was her cover as an agent — when her company was actually working on the detection and investigation of the proliferation of nuclear weaponry, and this case blew the entire operation — the media almost universally ignored it. They preferred to parrot the repugnican talking points of lies, smoke, slogans and jeers.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:56 amThus, most of the public is unaware of the facts and believe the catchy slogans and false adjectives describing her work and the work of the CIA.
Novak should be in prison with Libby.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 amSO TRUE! See my post #33 above. Kinda makes you sad, doesn’t it?
Comment by upside00
It is sad, upside00, and that disaster might be going into Iran — or the run up to going into Iran. We may very well have to take things into our own hands.
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 amBush is dispicable
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 amIs it even possible to be more dishonest than Novak is? He is a lying traitor.
As for criticizing Fitzgerald, it is clear that Bush and his thugs won’t do it except through proxies because they are scared of Fitzgerald, and what might happen to the gang when they lose their grip on power.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:00 amOh, hi zooey
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 am#101 Sometimes it is worthwhile provoking the trolls and watching them melt down. Then they reveal just how low they will go with their lies, intolerance, and hatred of all things that aren’t white and authoritarian. They reveal their hatred of the rule of law and the Constitution and all things American.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 amI’m not sure why I ackowledge them. Obviously my passions are up today.
Comment by Crump’s Brother
I really don’t blame you, CB. The stupidity and hardheadedness are stunning.
I see nothing wrong with giving facts in a civilized manner, as you do, ONCE, and then cutting them loose. Let them twist in the wind. The problem is — everyone is engaging them once!
I wish we had a registration system. It won’t stop the trolls, but it certainly will slow them down. I like the open board TP has because we get lots of different people here, but it’s too easily trashed by cave dwellers.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 amOh, hi zooey
Comment by Prof Shropshire
Hello, Prof Shropshire. :)
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 amTony Snow is doing a press briefing right now , spinning so violently , he looks like a pinata being beaten by 1,000 people sporting aluminum bats ……….
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:07 amZoo and Crump’s
What I find so laughable, is when they use up all their Rover talking points and/or can’t debate a topic straight up, they cut and run.
Guess they show the true colors of the Repugs.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 amDailyKos has a very efficient system, but it is too regulated, prefer posting here, as I enjoy a good laugh. I don’t take this crap personally, politics will be going on long after I assume room temperature
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 amBy the way. I have noticed a funny Bush/Coulter Republican paradox.
They claim that it was outrageous that Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich. Yet Marc Rich was represented by “honest, family man, patriot and dedicated public servant”, now convicted felon Scooter Libby.
So if Mr. Moral and Upright, convicted felon Scooter Libby, thought it was alright for Marc Rich to be pardoned, why be angry at Bill Clinton?
-GSD
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 am#101 Sometimes it is worthwhile provoking the trolls and watching them melt down. Then they reveal just how low they will go with their lies, intolerance, and hatred of all things that aren’t white and authoritarian. They reveal their hatred of the rule of law and the Constitution and all things American.
Comment by VerbalKint
See? That’s the problem! You have a valid point as well. Oy….
Maybe there’s a trollie medium to be found. Trolls like Patrick1, michael, Jake, and the like should get no response whatsoever. Others, who come here not just to disrupt, but to post their GW lunacy or legal insanity, should be debunked.
I just hate to see whole threads trashed by endless repetition.
Sooooo, in other words……I feel strongly both ways. :-D
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:10 am#110 This may just be the straw that puts Tony back into major chemo treatment. As I know, stress can take you out of remission!
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:10 amTony Snow is doing a press briefing right now , spinning so violently , he looks like a pinata being beaten by 1,000 people sporting aluminum bats ……….
Comment by MCMetal
Ohhhhh, I hope we get a TP thread with video. :D
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:11 amPardoning Libby is less controversial than say, pardoning a felon who donated $$ to your library fund!!!
I DARE Democrats to make this pardon an issue. When Hillary is crowned Queen Democrat next fall, the right looks forward to her opinion on the Libby pardon, as well as the Marc Rich pardon and those related to her brother. This is NOT a fight the hateful left wants to have. It will BACKFIRE.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 amTony Snow is doing a press briefing right now , spinning so violently , he looks like a pinata being beaten by 1,000 people sporting aluminum bats ……….
Comment by MCMetal
Ohhhhh, I hope we get a TP thread with video. :D
Comment by Zooey — July 3, 2007 @ 11:11 am
Holy shit
What he’s saying/claiming , is absolutely insane……….If I didn’t know that he was ill , I’d wish one of the reporters there would stand up and bash him.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 amPardoning Libby is less controversial than say, pardoning a felon who donated $$ to your library fund!!!
I DARE Democrats to make this pardon an issue. When Hillary is crowned Queen Democrat next fall, the right looks forward to her opinion on the Libby pardon, as well as the Marc Rich pardon and those related to her brother. This is NOT a fight the hateful left wants to have. It will BACKFIRE.
Comment by You Don’t Have the Votes — July 3, 2007 @ 11:14 am
Zip it , douchebag.
I’m willing to bet you’re one of the GOP/Chimpy nut huggers that also claimed that the horseshit GOP would retain both Houses this past November.
In fact , in the past 6+ years , name 1 thing any of you brainless clowns has predicted accurately , anti-Miss Cleo ………..
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 amTony Snowjob looks like he is going to assume room temperature very soon;(?
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 amPoor Tony! He has that look of “WTF am I doing this gig for???? They don’t provide flak vests and they don’t give Combat Pay”.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 amI think the pardon was a good idea. Bush was well in his right to do this.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 amComment by You Don’t Have the Votes — July 3, 2007 @ 11:14 am
I’m pleased that you’ll have no problem whatsoever with a Democrat president having the same excessive powers as GWB, and will never make a peep when said Democrat president commutes sentences or makes a pardon.
Thank you, you’re very gracious.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 amRoom temperature = Chimpy’s IQ
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 amWhat he’s saying/claiming , is absolutely insane……….If I didn’t know that he was ill , I’d wish one of the reporters there would stand up and bash him.
Comment by MCMetal
That’s probably why this ghoulish admin puts him out there — everybody’s nice to a sick guy.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 am#123 Zooey -
Vote-Boy will have a COW if ANY Dem tried to do what Darth Cheney just handpuppeted Dubya to do.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 amPity the poor trolls. They are so devoid of attention that they will do anything to fill that hole in their souls, even posting nonsense to get a rise.
I had a dog once who would eat her own shit and vomit it up on the porch for attention. Just like a troll, it didn’t matter what kind of attention.
We had to finally put a hole in her cranium to match the hole in her soul.
Trolls? Picking up any clues here? Just saying…………
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 amI think the pardon was a good idea. Bush was well in his right to do this.
Comment by Mark Rich — July 3, 2007 @ 11:20 am
As if anyone gives a shit how a Chimpy ball mongering fool imitating someone feels about anything ……….
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 am#119 - I predicted that Bush would win re-election and that a conservative majority would emerge on the Supreme Court. I was right on both counts… . douchebag.
You haters are just mad because there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about this pardon. Your top Democrat can;t even talk about it because of her husband. The Dems in Congress don’t have the balls to try and impeach Bush.
Your angry. AND I am loving every minute of it. I scoff at your hate. You get what you deserve.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 amVote-Boy will have a COW if ANY Dem tried to do what Darth Cheney just handpuppeted Dubya to do.
Comment by upside00
I know. I’m just getting his commitment on “record.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 amJake would be pleased. :)
You haters are just mad because there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about this pardon.
We hate it because we give a damn about our country. You support it because you put party first.
They’ll get what they deserve, which may or may not be a bullet. I hope you enjoy that part, too.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 am.
#119 - I predicted that Bush would win re-election and that a conservative majority would emerge on the Supreme Court. I was right on both counts… . douchebag.
You haters are just mad because there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about this pardon. Your top Democrat can;t even talk about it because of her husband. The Dems in Congress don’t have the balls to try and impeach Bush.
Your angry. AND I am loving every minute of it. I scoff at your hate. You get what you deserve.
Comment by You Don’t Have the Votes — July 3, 2007 @ 11:25 am
How “right” were you on Iraq ?
WMD’s ?
Valerie Plame’s status ?
The 2006 election ?
Chimpy’s non-existent and fictional ability to be a “war president” ?
Chimpy losing two wars at the same time ?
And on , and on , and on ………….2 out of 3 1/2 million predictions is a percentage that would embarrass a pre-schooler , used douchebag.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 amHow “right†were you on Iraq ? …
They don’t have a single policy success they can point to. The only thing that makes them happy is pissing off the liberals, and they can’t even define the word “liberal.”
They’re nothing more than the hole the elite uses to screw us all. Too bad they hate liberals more than they love their country.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 am.
“Redefining the roll of the United States from enablers to keep the peace, to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment.”
-George W. Bush-
“I don’t give a goddamn, I’m the President and the Commander-in Chief. Do it my way. Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
-George W. Bush-
“As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents more and more closely the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 am-H.L. Mencken-
libby will be pardoned in January, 2009, regaled with right wing money and be given his own half-hour talk show on faux news.
The bush-cheney Mafia takes care of their own.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 amThis may be the only thing Dubya can point to as a fsically conservative President; he actually saved the US Taxpayers the cost of Scoot’s incarceration. Will be his legacy.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:46 amThe first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln. That man had to make some of the hardest decisions, and endure some of the harshest criticisms, of any administration. Look what’s happened to that party. No standards and no direction and no penalties. No rule of law, no accountablity, no oversight and the growth of the unitary executive. George W should have “L’etat c’est Moi!” inscribed on the front of the White House. At least then he’d be honest with America and let us know what’s coming down the proverbial pike!
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:50 amBush is blamed by friends of Libby for losing control of the Plame investigation
“Losing control”? Obviously, Libby’s friends (surprise, surprise) don’t actually believe in the fair and impartial administration of justice.
They think justice should be controlled to suit their ends, and/or that they are above the law.
The trolls defending the Bush camp clearly don’t believe in the rule of law either.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:10 pmRoom temperature = Chimpy’s IQ
Comment by MCMetal
That’s the day we’re waiting for. The day that the body temperatures of this entire group of thugs, Snow, Cheney, Rove etal., equals W’s IQ. Come on CIA, show us your stuff.
And obviously since these thugs will lie and obstruct justice with impunity, the hell with congressional subpoenas. Let the water boarding begin.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:11 pmYour angry. AND I am loving every minute of it. I scoff at your hate. You get what you deserve.
Comment by You Don’t Have the Votes
And so will you little troll, so will you. And you idiots talk about Clinton’s pardons while ignoring the big pardon of your President Nixon by Ford. But even that pales compared to the pardons of Papa Bush of the Iran Contra convict that would have implicated him.
And for the record, Marc Rich was indicted for tax evasion and an illegal oil deal with Iran. Oil deal does that ring any bells. Iran, Reagan and Bush sound familiar. Scooter Libby, Rich’s attorney. Who do you think harangued Clinton into pardoning him?
You idiots should really watch something besides Fox News and stop listening to Limbaugh.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 pmYou’re brains will be oozing out of your ears soon.
A few points for our Republican friends:
1. THE CONVICTION AND SENTENCE: The conviction in Libby’s case resulted from an investigation requested by the CIA in a Republican controlled administration. The investigation was conducted by a special prosecutor selected by the Republicans DOJ. The investigating prosecutor was a life long conservative Republican with a national reputation for investigating corruption cases and for being even handed in his approach to the administration of justice. The jury convicted Libby after hearing all of the evidence. The judge imposing the sentence was a conservative appointed by the Republican demi-god Regan. The appeals panel rejecting a stay of the imprisonment pending appeal again consisted of judges appointed by Republican presidents in one of the most conservative appellate courts in the country. The sentence fell right in line under the federal sentencing guidelines. One would expect that under these circumstances that the conviction and sentence would be given great deference by the conservative base. Ha! Ha!
2. NO UNDERLYING CRIME: The primary defense of the right wing apologists is that Armitage leaked and there was no underlying crime or that Plame was not covert.
a. ARMITAGE LEAK IRRELEVANT: One person leaking classified information does not excuse subsequent leaks. Note that Libby discussed the information prior to Novak’s article and would not have known of the Armitage leak. Even if he did, it would not have excused such conduct. One could even find that Armitage had been given the information by White House insiders so that he could be used as a pawn (scapegoat) by others (Cheney?) However, we do know that Libby’s perjury and obstruction of justice did indeed interfere with the investigation of the leak of information and very likely made it difficult (if not impossible) to really determine whether a crime occurred as Fitzgerald noted when he brought the indictment.. One would find it hard to believe that this was not a serious matter as even the President conceded.
b. PLAME WAS COVERT: This much has been stated by the CIA. The Fitzgerald agreed based upon his review of the classified information provided to the judge. I would note that we can infer that the judge agreed by the seriousness of the sentence. We do know that while stationed at CIA headquarters, Plame was dispatched overseas a number of times in a NOC status. Pundits stating that the operative must be stationed overseas can not point to such a requirement in the statute. We do know that the cover corporation used by Plame was blown. We do know that others using the corporation as cover are now endangered. We do know that sources used by Plame or other operatives using the cover corporation are impacted. By the way, it does not matter that Plame worked at Langley. One can still drive to CIA headquarters every day and still not be know by the Iraqi’s, Saudi’s or Pakistani’s to be employed by the CIA. One can also work with private foreign companies and consultants who are involved in proliferation of nuclear technology and still work at Langley. Fortunately, most of our opponents in this arena do not have the resources to tag every CIA employee and track them to see if they go overseas.
3. CLINTON EXCUSE: The right wingers were obsessed with Clinton’s failure to be prosecuted for perjury. Let us note the difference:
a. The special prosecutor was appointed by independent judges (actually appointees by a prior Republican president). The special prosecutor (Kenneth Starr) was a well connected Republican who had been an active party member. Starr spent tens of millions of dollars in an investigation that ranged over every alleged scandal involving the Clinton administration (Whitewater, FBI documents, Foster’s death) and came up with no evidence of a crime with one exception. It should also be noted that the investigation was plagued with leaks by Starr’s office. Starr also seemed to live a lavish life style.
b. Clinton was finally charged with a crime. Note that the original issue involved Clinton’s testimony at a deposition in a civil case. Clinton was asked about a voluntary affair. The testimony was not relevant to or material to the case at hand (alleged sexual harassment). Indeed, the underlying case was later dismissed by the judge. Clinton was dragged before a federal grand jury investigating his deposition during the civil case. This became the “perjury”. The matter was never referred to a criminal prosecution. Don’t blame the Democrats. Starr reported to the Republican controlled Congress that tried to impeach Clinton. It failed much and the Republican actions seriously tarnished their image with the public.
4. BERGER EXCUSE: Berger purloined some classified documents from the archives to prepare for his 9/11 commission testimony. It was bad. He was charged by a Republican administration and plead guilty before a judge appointed by a Republican president. He was sentenced in accordance with the sentencing guidelines. The myths about the Berger case really are astounding. The most common is that Berger took the documents to destroy them and hide evidence of severe dereliction on the part of the Clinton administration. Tough luck, the Archive gives no one the original of a classified document as representatives of the Archive publicly noted. Thus Berger never endangered the classified documents.
5. PARDON AND COMMUTATION RECORDS: No one here is going to defend the pardons of past presidents. However, Bush has been particularly stingy in granting pardons compared to past presidents. The same was true with his tenure as Governor in Texas. Additionally, Bush has violated all the DoJ guidelines in granting the commutation. These are not binding on a president but belies a certain favoritism on his part.
No one condoned Clinton’s or Berger’s conduct. Too many right wingers find no problem with Libby’s conduct. Berger admitted his guilt while Libby did not (no contrition at sentencing) which also impacts sentencing. No, it seem that there is one law for the Republicans and another for the rest of us.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 pmNovak should be tried for treason and executed. He not only outed a covert CIA agent, he also outed her cover company (Brewster Jennings) which means that he put the lives of a lot of agents in jeopardy. For all we know these agents could have been killed or captured. But, we can’t know because the CIA’s investigation into this is classified.
And to all you trolls who will scream “she was not covert”, please answer this question. If she was not covert, why did she need a cover company?
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pmDennis Botchinit appears to be getting his talking points from Ann Coulter herself. Most of the Wingers have let go of trying to say Plame was not covert at the time.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pmJMOHR,
Excellent. Thank you.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 pmI realize people are angry about this.
But going off calling for people to receive the death penalty sort of makes us appear kind of irrational and overly emotional. It provides crap for the right to throw back at us.
Calm down people, and just stay with the facts.
July 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 pmJeepers, maybe Pope Benedict will beatify him. He’s sure being treated like a Holy Martyr.
St. Scooter?
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 pm#125
Room temperature = Chimpy’s IQ
Comment by MCMetal — July 3, 2007 @ 11:21 am
Are you implying that by raising Global Warming his IQ will follow?
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:57 pmYou people are soooo stupid. Libby didn’t comit any crimes. Bush did the right thing. He’ll be pardoned when bush leaves office!!!!!
Poor widdle liebrawls…
July 3rd, 2007 at 4:42 pmThe unique aspect of the Libby conviction was that there was no underlying crime whose prosecution he is accused of obstructing. Fitzgerald determined that no federal statute was broken when then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage revealed that Valerie Plame Wilson, the wife of Bush critic Joseph Wilson, worked for the CIA. But Fitzgerald prosecuted Libby for allegedly not telling the truth in the course of the investigation.
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:19 pm