Bush, Nixon are most unpopular presidents ever.
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Bush, Nixon are most unpopular presidents ever.
A new Rasmussen analysis finds that George Washington continues to be the nation’s most popular president, with 94 percent of Americans viewing the Father of our Country favorably. The highest unfavorable rating for any president — 60 percent — is earned by Richard Nixon.” But close “Nixon’s heels for most unpopular is the current president, George W. Bush. Fifty-nine percent have an unfavorable opinion of him.”
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I’m sure even these horrible numbers are heavily rigged in Bush’s favor. He would be the most hated President ever…except he’s not really President.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:16 pmOf course the least popular are Nixon and GWB. They’re the most liberal — at least according to revisionist conservative wisdom.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:17 pmStill, the Democrat congress is lower with only a 14% approval rating.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:18 pmIt’s the “Republican drag-down effect.”
July 4th, 2007 at 2:21 pmHaving lived through the Nixon Administration, and now living through the current corrupt, criminal administration, to me, it is a toss up.
Remember, in polls there is a margin of error, so the poll is too close to call.
I’ll give Nixon one thing over the current corrupt, criminal president: Nixon RESIGNED!
July 4th, 2007 at 2:22 pmFifty nine sounds low to me.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:24 pmThe last ten or so polls on pollingreport.com show him with dispproval rates of:
66, 57, 62, 65, 66, 65, 65, 66, 60 and 65 for an average of 63.7
That has to be some kind of record for poll dumpster diving presidents who were never really elected in the first place.
Democrat congress is lower with only a 14% approval rating.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Why? Because they refuse to Impeach Bush!
July 4th, 2007 at 2:25 pmWhy? Because they refuse to Impeach Bush!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — July 4, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
I agree, BnF. If Congress would fulfill their constitutional obligations and support and defend the constitution from these two, the public’s opinion of Congress would improve.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:28 pmI’ll give Nixon one thing over the current corrupt, criminal president: Nixon RESIGNED!
Comment by hterrya
There were also members of the Nixon administration who resigned rather than agree to his attempts to subvert the Constitution. Both the Attorney General and Deputy A.G. refused to fire the special prosecutor demanding papers from Nixon. Significantly, the person who did eventually fire the prosecutor was Robert Bork. Bork, among other notorieties, was the “tort reform” advocate currently suing Yale because he fell down climbing to a dais to speak.
In retrospect, the Nixon Administration accomplished a lot, which certainly can’t be said about the Bushies. Besides opening up relations with China, you can credit Nixon with creating the EPA and NOAA. Looking back on the Bush years, from the future, we will see only carnage and greed.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:31 pmYes, if the Congress would impeach, their ratings would go up to about 77% – the other 23% are the hapless sheeplets who believe in God and country – yet display contempt for both.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:32 pmWho on earth are the 6% of Americans who don’t approve of Washington?
July 4th, 2007 at 2:34 pmIf Congress would secure our borders. Do something reasonable about the immigrants. Make the Constitution untouchable and the law to apply equally to all… stop spending us into massive debt (even though many of us refuse to assume debt personally and do not believe in being in debt as a matter of principal) stop bickering and ending up with half measures instead of reasoned compromises…. stop taking bribes… stop having secret meetings to benefit only a few… on and on… THEN Congress would get some respect…
The bush problem is far worse however. Most of the disrespect toward him has to do with committing war crimes… that is even more unseemly than what Congress has done…plus his blatant power grab with out and out disdain for the intended fairness and justice for the people from the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:35 pmNixon and Bush.
The two most HATED presidents in the world.
Dumb and dumber.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:37 pm# 10 – Comment by gummitch — July 4, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
“In retrospect, the Nixon Administration accomplished a lot, which certainly can’t be said about the Bushies. Besides opening up relations with China, you can credit Nixon with creating the EPA and NOAA.”
Sorry, gummitch, I can’t agree with that statement, but I can agree with this one:
“Looking back on the Bush years, from the future, we will see only carnage and greed.”
July 4th, 2007 at 2:38 pmhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/washington_lincoln_most_popular_presidents_nixon_bush_least_popular
“Lyndon Johnson (42%), Bill Clinton (41%), and the first President Bush (41%) are the only other Presidents viewed unfavorably by at least 40% of Americans.”
July 4th, 2007 at 2:39 pmAnd I see Jessie is trying to distract from the topic by peddling her “Congress 14% approval rating” lie once again, even after it’s been debunked several times.
Not that it has anything to do with this topic, but Jessie takes this number from a Gallup poll last week. the 14% is the number of those who said they had “quite a lot” or “a great deal” of confidence in Congress. Gallup’s actual APPROVAL rating for Congress as a whole for that week was 24%.
So it’s a LIE, Jessie. You know it’s a lie, and you still try to sell it as some way to distract from the fact that the only reason the current Republican president is not the most unpoular of ALL TIME is that thirty three years ago, ANOTHER Republican president resigned in disgrace.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:40 pm#7
Why? Because they are spineless cowards that aren’t doing what they said they were going to do. All talk and no action.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:41 pmStill, the Democrat congress is lower with only a 14% approval rating.
Comment by Jessie Crapton — July 4, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Don’t fall for it folks.
The current congressional approval rating is 24 percent, not 14.
And thats been proven to be due to the fact that Congress has not impeached the most HATED PRESIDENT IN THE WORLD.
You know neocons can’t count.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:42 pm“Lyndon Johnson (42%), Bill Clinton (41%), and the first President Bush (41%) are the only other Presidents viewed unfavorably by at least 40% of Americans.â€
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Is that the best you got?
See, THIS is why the troll masters have you working on a holiday.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:42 pm#17
At 24% the U.S. would be better served if the entire congress resigned.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:43 pmThe big difference between Nixon and Bush is that Nixon understood the political ramifications an impeachment fight would have for his party. Bush, at this point, just wants to be liked by his base. He doesn’t care that his actions will doom republicans to minority status, or that he has discredited conservative ideology. The sad but predictable part is the way “conservatives” endorsed every big-spending Bush initiative that came down the congressional pike. That little bit if political cowardice showed independents that conservatives were just high-sounding charlatans. They will be paying the electoral price for their Bush support for the next decade.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:43 pm#20
What would you like to see?
July 4th, 2007 at 2:44 pmAt 24% the U.S. would be better served if the entire congress resigned.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Really? Cause Bush hit 26 percent. So two more points and you’d approve of Bush resigning?
Outstanding.
Glad you’re finally with us.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:45 pm“Democrat congress is lower with only a 14% approval rating.”
What? There are only Democrats in Congress? Who knew….
And of course Congress’ approval rating is low, they haven’t brought the troops home and they haven’t impeached Bush/Cheney.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:45 pm#23
The little pussys said that they would stop the war but that don’t have the spine to pull the funding. No THEY suck and you voted for them.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:46 pmBull shit bush is far more evil, along with his handler’s cheney and rove than Nixon ever was..Would bet if one were to ask other people of the world that lived through the nixon year’s none would have the hate for him they now do for bush and america for allowing his murderious war’s..Any one have any old world opinion’s of nixon.? He was able to travel world wide..Not so of bush and his loyal cabal..Blessings
July 4th, 2007 at 2:46 pm#25
“So two more points and you’d approve of Bush resigning?”
Yes, then let Cheney take over. LOL!.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:48 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
July 4th, 2007 at 2:49 pmNo THEY suck and you voted for them.
Comment by Tracy
And today another American will die in Iraq, while Tracy desperately points the finger of blame everywhere but where it belongs: at himself, for his cultish devotion to the failed ideology of conservatism.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:49 pmAt 24% the U.S. would be better served if the entire congress resigned.
Comment by Lacy — July 4, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Gee. In August 2006, the Republican led congress enjoyed an approval rating of TWENTY THREE percent, one point lower than the point where you state they should resign.
So once again, glad you wanted the republican congress to resign.
I assume you voted democrat in 06?
July 4th, 2007 at 2:49 pmWhat Ronald Reagan DID for the popularity of Republicans….Bush has UNDONE in 6 short years. Thank you Mr. President.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:49 pmNixon created EPA, OSHA, normalized relations with China, directly intervened in the economy to try to stop inflation, did a LOT for the disadvantaged through block grants, ended the draft. I despise(d) Nixon for the “other stuff,” but Bush doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath with that bastard.
Bush is exponentially worse–the perfect storm of incompetence, laziness, venality and pure evil.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:51 pmBush’s approval rating was already low before the “Scooter” commutation. As for that, REMEMBER: All those who “outed” Valerie Plame walked; “Scooter” Libby who didn’t shouldn’t go to prison.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/07/though-premature-bushs-commutation-of.html#links
July 4th, 2007 at 2:51 pmBlame me? For what? The reason this country has a 10 trillion dollar budget and NEVER takes in LESS money than the previous is because of multiple BS government programs and entitlements started by that failure LBJ. BTW the current republicans in congress and the White House aren’t conservatives.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pmYes, then let Cheney take over. LOL!.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Hmmm, so let me see if I have your republican logic down.
Bush and congress, should resign, because their approval rating is down in the mid 20’s, and your plan would be to replace them, with Cheney, who’s approval rating is down in the teens?
Wow.
No wonder you think we’re winning in Iraq.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pmIts like bizzaro world.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:53 pmThank you Mr. President.
Comment by Badger
He’s ruined his party, his ideology, and republicans’ chances of ever being in control again.
Now there’s a trifecta!
July 4th, 2007 at 2:54 pm17. And I see Jessie is trying to distract from the topic by peddling her “Congress 14% approval rating†lie once again, even after it’s been debunked several times.
* * *
July 4th, 2007 at 2:54 pmThey’re pulling this out of their asses. FAUX puts the approval rating at 32% and they’re oh-so fair and balanced.
“Nixon and Bush.
The two most HATED presidents in the world.
Dumb and dumber.”
I don’t know that Nixon was dumb. Amoral most likely; psychotic perhaps. Not sure about dumb. :^|
Certainly he was less apt than Bush to parade his dumbness around as a sodden, corrupt, ill-spoken thing which (for what reason I cannot fathom) a lot of Amuhricans’d “like to have a beer with.”
July 4th, 2007 at 2:56 pmComment by Tracy
You should be ashamed of yourself for following Bush.
Except conservatives don’t feel shame, or take responsibility.
How’s it feel to still be following a political course that’s so clearly headed for oblivion? Remember the Grange?
July 4th, 2007 at 2:57 pmI don’t know that Nixon was dumb.
Comment by Bernard Quatermass — July 4, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
No. Breaking into DNC headquarters was a brilliant move.
And getting caught to boot?
Thats the stuff genius is made from.
July 4th, 2007 at 2:58 pmTracy Troll has the focus on her/himself in Comment #37 – the goal of every NASTY, LYING, IGNORANT Troll, everywhere.
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY, LYING, IGNORANT Troll!
Back to the topic: Unfavorable ratings for Nixon and Bush are a dead heat. Why? Because they are both criminals!
July 4th, 2007 at 2:58 pm#33
“In August 2006, the Republican led congress enjoyed an approval rating of TWENTY THREE percent, one point lower than the point where you state they should resign.”
I thought they should resign back in 2005! LOL!…but since this spineless Democratic led congress was voted in and it hasn’t changed ANYTHING I am for ALL of them resigning now.
“I assume you voted democrat in 06?”
Are you kidding? What for? They are WORSE than the current Republicans.
BTW are you satisfied with Reid and Pelosi’s performances thus far?
July 4th, 2007 at 2:59 pmIs Tracy, Jessy Saxon.? They write the same….Hummm. Oh well once you read one troll ya read them all…Happy 4th and many Blessings poster’s, except the troll’s.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:00 pm#38
That was joke. Damn, I didn’t know I was dealing with obtuse people here.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:00 pm#34
I totally agree.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:01 pmOT:
Al Gore’s chances just went down the drain.
Anyone else hear about it?
Damn kids.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:01 pmThe little pussys said that they would stop the war but that don’t have the spine to pull the funding. No THEY suck and you voted for them.
Comment by Tracy the truthful — July 4, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
Thanks again Tracy for supporting our position, and proving that the reason that more than two thirds of the country disapproves of congress, is because they failed to stop the pig Bush, and end the illegal war that more than two thirds of America hates.
You’re a best new advocate.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:01 pmNixon was Arrogant and Paranoid. This makes smart people do Stupid things.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:02 pmIt is worth remembering that this is merely Bush being Bush, consistent in his own inconsistency. That is, a gleeful vengeance towards criminals occupies a high place in George W. Bush’s pantheon of values. Just not as high, as we all should long have since known, as rewarding personal loyalty and ensuring his own survival.
For more history of the Asterisk President, see:
July 4th, 2007 at 3:03 pmBush Commutation Flashback: “Please Don’t Kill Me.”
BTW are you satisfied with Reid and Pelosi’s performances thus far?
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
No, like most of America I am terribly disappointed in their lack of capability to reign in the pig Bush.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:03 pmGeorge III or George W?
Ian Williams: As Americans celebrate independence on the Fourth of July, some of them must be wondering if it was all a mistake. The answer: join Canada.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/ian_williams/2007/07/george_iii_or_george_w.html
July 4th, 2007 at 3:03 pmNo. Breaking into DNC headquarters was a brilliant move.
And getting caught to boot?
Thats the stuff genius is made from.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Nixon didn’t actually break in anywhere, and I’m pretty sure that he wasn’t aware of it in advance. At any rate, I lived through the Nixon years, I danced in the streets when he resigned (still have a copy of the newspaper with those big headlines), but there’s absolutely no way you can convincingly call Nixon dumb. Venal, paranoid and vicious, absolutely. But Nixon was not only smart as hell, he surrounded himself with other smart people. You wouldn’t want to go out for a beer with any of them, but he has no use for incompetent sycophants. Another distinction between Nixon and Dubya.
Just take a cursory look at what was accomplished, some of it very good and positive, during his administration.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:03 pm“BTW the current republicans in congress and the White House aren’t conservatives.”
Comment by Tracy
The ship’s already sailed on that little scam. If you want to re-establish conservatism as a serious school of political thought, you must first put your house in order. To do so requires that you repudiated Bush, and all he stands for, or stand silent as “conservative” is rebranded to mean “profligate, traitorous, lawless, and irrelevant.”
To be considered a real political ideology again, you must bring us the (political) head of George Bush.
And his little dog Cheney, too!
July 4th, 2007 at 3:04 pm#43
And chingebush is perfect example of a LITTLE man with a big mouth who’s body can’t what his mouth writes.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:04 pmThat was joke.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Agreed.
The idea of Cheney ever being president, is a joke.
:|
Its nice to see you come around like this.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:05 pm#47, I assume you are thrilled with the GOP blocking over 200 bills that have been voted on (in the last six months) simply for partisan reasons. Yeah, way to go GOP. Let’s ensure that NOTHING happens for this country unless it’s bad – or it benefits one of our cronies.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:05 pmO.K. Trueblue, what’s up with your Gore post.? We can take it..Blessings
July 4th, 2007 at 3:06 pm#44
And you should be ashamed for following Pelosi and Reid. Both can’t lead their own party much less the country.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:06 pmBTW are you satisfied with Reid and Pelosi’s performances thus far?
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Personally, no, I’m not. I think most posters here at TP are not satisfied with their performance.
I want to see more teeth and more spine in their efforts at oversight. I’m tired of threats of letters. I want to see legal action to stop the delaying tactics. I want to see Contempt of Congress charges.
But their inactivity is a whole lot better for the health of this country than was the complicity of the Republican Rubber Stamp congress in enacting the agenda of the most intellectually limited and unreflective presidnt this nation has ever had. At least the democrats in charge are stemming the tide of damage to our nation.
We also recognize that a slim majority in Congress can’t do jack sh!t legislatively without cooperation from the minority party and from the president, and it’s clear that they’ll get neither from these Republicans.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:07 pmAnd chingebush is perfect example of a LITTLE man with a big mouth who’s body can’t what his mouth writes.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Outstanding! Just when I think you couldn’t be more valiant in your support for ousting Bush, here you go and say something like this.
You’re right. Bush is a PERFECT example of a little man with a BIG mouth, who’s body (or military) can’t (CASH: Had to help you with that word, we’ll have to work on the illiteracy thing later) the check his mouth writes.
Well said my friend, well said.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:08 pm#44
“How’s it feel to still be following a political course that’s so clearly headed for oblivion?”
What and go back to the failed liberal political course of the 1960s and 1970s?
July 4th, 2007 at 3:08 pmTracy is a Troll.
The topic is nearly equal unfavorable ratings (the largest of any presidents) of two CRIMINAL presidents – Nixon, and the current one.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:09 pm#46
The fact of #37 speak for themselves. Unless you can prove that government programs and entitlements is what caused our government to have a ridiculous 10 trillion dollar budget.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:10 pmAl Goracle becoming president is a joke, unless you are a Muslim in Iraq or Iran!
July 4th, 2007 at 3:11 pmWhat and go back to the failed liberal political course of the 1960s and 1970s?
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
There’s your problem, Tracy. Americans have had 6 years to see what a REALfailed political course looks like.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:13 pm#52
Yeah, you keep on inferring and fabricating and eventually you might understand.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:13 pmSharon,
It’s not good, I’m afraid.
Seems young Al Gore III was arrested this morning, and they found things he shouldn’t have. (think Rush)
July 4th, 2007 at 3:14 pmYou know guys, its stupid to continue to post comment numbers as references, instead of posting the comment you are refuting for all to see.
THe post numbers change when something gets deleted, and people have NO idea what comment you’re referencing.
Quit being lazy, and post the actual comment, and forget the stupid comment number.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:16 pmIt’s not good, I’m afraid.
Seems young Al Gore III was arrested this morning, and they found things he shouldn’t have. (think Rush)
Comment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Whjy should that kill the father’s candidacy? Didn’t the Bush twins get busted for underage possession of alcohol? Didn’t Jeb’s kid have a similar run-in with the law?
Oops — I forgot — IOKIYAR.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#55
Yes they do suck. Just like the rest of the Democrats and Republicans do. They all have never had the guts to do what it takes to solve the problem of international terrorism.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:16 pmWhat’s the matter #70 Tracy, did I hit a nerve and cause you to resort to more inflamatory name calling or don’ you like women in general..No matter..
July 4th, 2007 at 3:17 pmSeems young Al Gore III was arrested this morning, and they found things he shouldn’t have. (think Rush)
Comment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
So? It has nothing to do with his dad.
Bush’s kids are drunken buffons, and that hasn’t hurt him none.
We vote for the man, not his children.
If Al Gore threw his hat in the ring today, he’d be elected in a landslide.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:18 pmComment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Could be worse, trueblue. After all, Bush has the twins, and didn’t Jeb’s daughter go to jail or got house arrest for illegal prescription drugs?
July 4th, 2007 at 3:18 pm“Both can’t lead their own party much less the country.”
Comment by Tracy
Frantic to place blame anywhere, but on the failed ideology of conservatism. How predictable. Conservatism itself never fails – people fail conservatism. An intellectual fraud.
Conservatism had it’s chance to show that it really believed in fiscal prudence, the rule of law, and other supposedly “conservative” principles – but they tossed all that overboard to keep political power. Now, like a drunk after a three day bender, they try to claim “hey, that wasn’t me you saw last night, I’m not really like that.”
Right.
Check out a twelve-step program for former conservatives, Tracy. It will be listed under “libertarian” in the phone book …
July 4th, 2007 at 3:19 pmDamn, spit take, I saw your post too late.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:19 pmThey all have never had the guts to do what it takes to solve the problem of international terrorism.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Yea, like the guts to stop creating new terrorists, and to stop shooting like cowards, at anything that moves.
The way to beat terrorists is to stop making them.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:19 pm# 68 – No, you ignorant troll; you started #37 with the phrase “Blame ME.”
ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME!
That is ALL you miserable trolls are about!
The topic of this thread is the nearly EQUAL unfavorable ratings (the largest of any presidents) of two CRIMINAL presidents – Nixon, and the current one.
It is NOT about any of the things YOU want to derail this thread to talk about.
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY, LYING, IGNORANT Troll!
July 4th, 2007 at 3:19 pmBut the Dem’s don’t harp on the candidate’s families.
Republicans play way dirty.
You know Rove will use this to smear Gore.
Remeber McCain in 2000?
July 4th, 2007 at 3:20 pmAl Goracle is a TRAITOR to Mother-Earth, his house uses way more energy than does George W. Bush’s house.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:21 pmHyterra’s right.
The two most HATED Presidents in the history of our country, are REPUBLICANS.
Imagine that.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:21 pmI hope you are all correct, and I’m being a pessimist today.
:)
July 4th, 2007 at 3:21 pmComment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Me, too. I do think that, if the Republiskunks try to smear Al with this, fewer and fewer people will pay attention to their lies. More of the country is on to their filthy tactics.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:23 pmBut the Dem’s don’t harp on the candidate’s families.
Republicans play way dirty.
Comment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
So?
Let em.
It doesn’t matter if Gores kid got drunk, ran over a Supreme Court judge and wrapped the body in a flag.
NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, is going to get them elected in 08.
Not Gores kids screwing up, and not their dirty tactics.
The countries had all the right wing rapture it can handle for the next few decades, and thats just the way it is.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:26 pmDon’t worry True. The 4th Reich is coming to an end.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:27 pm#60
As if he wouldn’t be if Bush were to resign? Remember Ford?
July 4th, 2007 at 3:27 pmI do think that, if the Republiskunks try to smear Al with this, fewer and fewer people will pay attention to their lies. More of the country is on to their filthy tactics.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 4, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
I think you’re right, Jane. It seems like the shock effect is starting wear off. The Law of Diminishing Returns and all that.
Of course, it helps enormously that they’ve proven themselves incapable of governing competently.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:28 pmAnyone who refers to themselves as a Roman Emperor/Deity is not to be taken seriously.
They should be taking meds.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:28 pmThank You Jane, you are a Dear and I appreciate you and the hubby for your post’s….
No to worry Trueblue, it will not hurt Gore….We, none of us can be blamed for the mistakes of our father’s or children…It matter’s what we alone do….Unless of course you are born with the bush genetic imprint, each generation from Prescott down has been worse for society and the world…To bad we don’t have retroactive birth control, oop’s forgot that’s what bush is trying to do..Oh well…Sending out more Blessings and leaving you all better equipt than I to wrestle the little troll’s…
July 4th, 2007 at 3:28 pmThank you, Sharon.
Blessings to you.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:29 pm#61
“I assume you are thrilled with the GOP blocking over 200 bills that have been voted on (in the last six months) simply for partisan reasons…”
If they were liberal bills then…yeah….absolutely. The BS immigration bill was written by the Dems and the liberal Republicans and it was soundly defeated for all the right reasons.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:30 pm# 92 – Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 4, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
“Don’t worry True. The 4th Reich is coming to an end.”
Yep. It’s coming to an end in LESS than 566 days! Hallelujah!
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/01/bush_countdown.html
July 4th, 2007 at 3:31 pmWhere is the ThinkProgress Headline that reads:
BREAKING: Al Gore’s Son. Bust With Drugs.
???????????????????????????????????????????
July 4th, 2007 at 3:31 pmThe two most HATED, and DESPISED presidents of our time, are two REPUBLICANS.
What an honor this must be for the trolls.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:31 pm“Progressive” indeed.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:31 pm“Of course, it helps enormously that they’ve proven themselves incapable of governing competently.”
Comment by spit take — July 4, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Yeah, that too. Of course, the country would have been better off if they hadn’t proven it so overwhelmingly!
Blessings, Sharon!:D Enjoy your Independence Day!
July 4th, 2007 at 3:31 pmThe highest unfavorable rating for any president — 60 percent — is earned by Richard Nixon.†But close “Nixon’s heels for most unpopular is the current president, George W. Bush. Fifty-nine percent have an unfavorable opinion of him.â€
God bless America.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:33 pm#64
“At least the democrats in charge are stemming the tide of damage to our nation.”
Oh whatever, if you want to see this country fall like Rome let the Dems take over the legislative AND the executive branches.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:34 pm#65
Whatever! Bush has done, right or wrong, what he said he was going to do. BARTLEBEE you are definately in that category of those who’s body couldn’t back up what they vomit.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:37 pmBush had the highest approval rating, 92%, in the history of the gallup poll. He holds the record for the highest.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:38 pm#71
We got 40 years of it from the libs prior. The size of our federal government proves it. No thanks.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:39 pmgummitch
Someone once wrote something along these lines on this blog a while back, and it kind of impressed me:
Nixon opened up trade with China. Bush let China poison your dog.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:39 pmBush had the highest approval rating, 92%, in the history of the gallup poll. He holds the record for the highest.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
I guess that means he has the largest DROP in Approval ratings also.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:40 pm“Remeber McCain in 2000?”
This blog has done more to trash McCain than Rove ever did.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:41 pm#75
LOL! As if you good make good on a promise! There was no reason for her piss poor attitude boy.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:41 pm# 105 – Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
“…let the Dems take over the legislative AND the executive branches.”
They will, thanks, in 2008!
The American people don’t want to have another clone of Nixon and the current corrupt, criminal president in the Executive Branch in 2009, and they don’t want a clone of the current president-in-charge-of-Vice in whatever Branch HE is in! {:-)
July 4th, 2007 at 3:41 pm“Americans have had 6 years to see what a REALfailed political course looks like.”
Yeah, the booming economy is so terrible.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:41 pm“The American people don’t want to have another clone of Nixon and the current corrupt, criminal president in the Executive Branch in 2009″
Which Democrat are you claiming the American people are going to turn to in ‘08?
July 4th, 2007 at 3:42 pm#78
I call it like I see it.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:43 pmWhatever! Bush has done, right or wrong, what he said he was going to do. BARTLEBEE you are definately in that category of those who’s body couldn’t back up what they vomit.
Comment by Tracy
No, actually, he said that he would LEAVE Iraq as soon as the ELECTIONS WERE OVER.
And that he wouldn’t NATION BUILD.
And that President Clinton should have an EXIT STRATEGY.
HE sure made SUCKERS out of YOU, my fellow RAPEUBLICANS.
That’s why Master Satan LOVES him SO MUCH, because traitorjunior is PURE EVIL.
And that’s why he will be in hell with ME and Master Satan, as will the WHOLE Bush and Cheney clan of EVIL!!!
Satan Bless the Bushes and Cheneys,
Treasonously yours from hell,
Traitor Ronnie and my Master Satan
July 4th, 2007 at 3:43 pmComment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
OK, if they had pulled the funding what would you have done? My guess is that you would have gone stir fry. So give the self-righteousness a rest.
I do agree. Some of the Dems said they would deliver this. However, was it ever agreed as a policy statement? Of course not.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:45 pmMaybe that’s why Al the Snoracle is so boring.
Because he is on so many downers…
Just sayin’
July 4th, 2007 at 3:48 pm#81
“Frantic to place blame anywhere, but on the failed ideology of conservatism.”
“Conservatism itself never fails – people fail conservatism. An intellectual fraud.”
Exactly! Because to follow liberalism takes ZERO courage or thought. It’s all smoke and mirrors and failed promises that sound good to the sheep.
“Conservatism had it’s chance to show that it really believed in fiscal prudence”
Which is why the current Republicans aren’t conservatives and need to be ejected. If you think they are conservative you must be approaching communism.
“…but they tossed all that overboard to keep political power.”
I totally agree!
July 4th, 2007 at 3:48 pmIt’s unfair to compare a current president to one that is out of office. When a politican leaves office their ratings go up. Bush has been a better president than Carter or Clinton.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pmDemocrat congress is lower with only a 14% approval rating.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Why? Because oF OBSTRUCTIONIST Republicans.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:50 pm#83
And just how do we stop making them? It isn’t retreating and “making nice” with them. It’s a combination of hunting them down and promoting the one thing that will stop it all together…it’s called democratic reform. Do you see democratic secular countries fighting each other?
July 4th, 2007 at 3:53 pm“Now his rating is in the 20’s nearly the lowest in the history of the gallup poll.”
It’s still better than the Democrat congress. The Democrat congress has the lowest approval rating in 25 years. Nothing to brag about if I were you.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#84
You are too funny!
July 4th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThis had me laughing out loud. What a ludicrous comment! Carter has a Nobel Peace Prize, Clinton left the USA financially sound, while Dubya will leave America weak and bankrupt and hated by all the world.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:55 pm#87
I find it’s amazing the FAR more U.S. troops have been killed under Democratic presidents but the American people got more bent out of shape about a burglary.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:57 pm“That is ALL you miserable trolls are about!”
I see trolls here, but they are of the liberal kind.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:58 pm“Carter has a Nobel Peace Prize”
Rush Limbaugh has been nominated for one. Not such a big deal anymore, is it?
July 4th, 2007 at 3:59 pm# 116 – Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
“I call it like I see it.”
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I!
ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME!
That is ALL you IGNORANT TROLLS can talk about (other than crap that distracts from the topic of this thread).
The topic of this thread is the nearly EQUAL unfavorable ratings (the largest of any presidents) of two CRIMINAL presidents – Nixon, and the current one.
July 4th, 2007 at 3:59 pmIt’s still better than the Democrat congress. The Democrat congress has the lowest approval rating in 25 years. Nothing to brag about if I were you.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Still spewing lies about approval ratings, or else displaying an astonishing lack of comprehension. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, the Republic Congress in August of last year had a LOWER approval rating than this current Congress. So you’re wrong. It isn’t even the lowest in the last YEAR.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:00 pmhterrya, when Bush had a 92% approval rating were you part of the 92%?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:00 pmspit take, 14% approval for the Democrat congress. 19% approval for Harry Reid. This you are proud of?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:02 pmtracy you are a complete moron. The BIGGEST govt. of ALL TIME came from your idiot, criminal elected admin. How dare you whine about Dem “big govt” these morons and their supporters created the biggest govt AND the biggest DEBT and then they are incompetent and can’t even run it. All they did was use our agencies to line their pockets and push their criminal political agenda. They will all rot in jail. You can kiss any future Rethug’s in office GOODBYE after this long trail of scandal and thuggery. You are representative of a typical Bush supporter, dumb as a sack of hammers.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:02 pm#101
That’s too funny! Gore’s son drives a hybrid but he hyopcrite preacher doesn’t. LOL! Don’t waste your time with the ostriches. BTW that’s not on topic here so only treat this as a side note.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19601277/
July 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pm# 131 – Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
“*****I***** see trolls here, but they are of the liberal kind.”
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I!
ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME!
That is ALL you IGNORANT TROLLS can talk about (other than crap that distracts from the topic of this thread).
The topic of this thread is the nearly EQUAL unfavorable ratings (the largest of any presidents) of two CRIMINAL presidents – Nixon, and the current one.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pmhterrya, when Bush had a 92% approval rating were you part of the 92%?
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Yea, he got that 92 percent approval rating on the bodies of 3000 dead Americans.
A week before, he was in the low 40s.
Then, 3000 Americans died, and he, and the RNC, capitalized on it, and built a regime on the bodies of 3000 dead Americans.
Heck-uva-job.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pm“You can kiss any future Rethug’s in office GOODBYE after this long trail of scandal and thuggery.”
Well, except Fred or Rudy, one of whom is going to be the next president of the United States.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:04 pmI find it’s amazing the FAR more U.S. troops have been killed under Democratic presidents but the American people got more bent out of shape about a burglary.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
500,000 American troops were killed in World War II under FDR and TRUMAN. Americans were 100% behind their efforts at defeating fascism. Americans got “bent out of shape” by Hitler and Tojo.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:05 pmhterrya, the only one acting like a troll here is you.
Besides, Think Progress is non-partisan. I have every right to post here as you. So you better get used to it, honey.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:06 pmI find it’s amazing the FAR more U.S. troops have been killed under Democratic presidents but the American people got more bent out of shape about a burglary.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
I take it you’re including WWII (400,000 American lives lost) and Vietnam (34,000 out of 58,000 died under Democratic presidents) in your weird comparison.
And how do these two facts that you oddly juxtapose relate to each other?
Your post is really confusing. What’s your point?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:06 pmWhy does TP cover Paris Hilton but not Al Goracle’s son being busted with drugs?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pm#118
If you are from the UK, you have more important thing to worry about…like preventing your country from becoming another Afghanistan.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pmAnd if my posts are just the same old inane rnc talking points, thats my business too.
Get used to it.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pm“A week before, he was in the low 40s.”
He rose to the occasion after 9/11, and 92% approved of his job performance. Probably even you.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:08 pmexcept he’s not really President.
Comment by Perry Logan
just shows how libs live in la la land. cant even accept that Bush is our president. did you know dem are trying to raise you gas prices, taxes etc. income tax. i bet you’d all love to see more money come out of your paycheck every week to help mankind. think about it then come to the right side.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:09 pm#124
No because the Democratic leaders named Pelosi and Reid are incapable of leading.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:10 pmCome on TP, we need a break.
Say SOMETHING bad about a democrat. Even if its just some irrelevant story about his kid.
Throw us a bone for gosh sake!
July 4th, 2007 at 4:10 pm“Why does TP cover Paris Hilton but not Al Goracle’s son being busted with drugs?”
A lot of liberals were hoping that Al Gore would enter the race and save them from Hillary Clinton. This business with his son has foreclosed on that.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:10 pmI wonder if the Goracle will pull some strings to get is son off the hook…
July 4th, 2007 at 4:11 pmspit take, 14% approval for the Democrat congress. 19% approval for Harry Reid. This you are proud of?
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Jesus Christ, you are one of the densest trolls I’ve ever encountered.
The 14% figure you cite is NOT an “approval rating”. It was the number of people who said they had “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in Congress. The actual APPROVAL rate from that poll was 24%. This has been explained several times here, so you must be willfully lying to prove some nonexistent point.
And one more thing: why the rhetorical question: “This you are proud of”? When did I ever say I was proud of the performance of Harry Reid and the Democratic Congress? I’ve said that I’m disappointed in their lack of teeth in conducting needed oversight of this corupt administration.
So your comment fails all around. Willful misuse of statistics and mistaken assumptions about me and my thinking. This you are proud of?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:11 pm“Rush Limbaugh has been nominated for one. Not such a big deal anymore, is it?”
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
He nominated himself, troll. The Nobel Prize Committee has higher criteria than just saying “I deserve a Nobel Peace Price.” Jebus, you’re so stupid you’ll believe anything you hear from a lying drug-addicted ED-afflicted gasbag. Why do you bother to continue to post your inane talking points, most of which have been responded to and shot down earlier?
“…the American people got more bent out of shape about a burglary.”
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
And if next year you hear that Democratic operatives broke into the RNC headquarters, you wouldn’t be crying foul? Hypocrite troll.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:11 pm#133
Spoken like a true socialist.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:12 pmBush Squanderd his 92% approval rating by invading the wrong country, and doing it with stunning incompetence.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:12 pmWell, except Fred or Rudy, one of whom is going to be the next president of the United States.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
But, Jessie, by your own standards, both of these men are “chickenhawks”. Right?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:13 pm“And if my posts are just the same old inane rnc talking points, thats my business too.
Get used to it.”
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
No. GFY. And Tracy, too.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:13 pm“But, Jessie, by your own standards, both of these men are “chickenhawksâ€. Right?”
No more so than Hillary or Barak Obama.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:14 pmA lot of liberals were hoping that Al Gore would enter the race and save them from Hillary Clinton. This business with his son has foreclosed on that.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Yes, and it seems that “progressives” are not being told about the corruption involving Dems. yet, if you were here last week, you would have seen thread after thread of “Paris” news!
“Progressive” indeed.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:15 pm# 135 – Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
“hterrya, when Bush had a 92% approval rating were you part of the 92%?”
Absolutely NOT! Living in Texas, everyone here knew him for the lying, criminal, cokehead, former fratrat cheeleader that he IS. The 8% who knew the current corrupt president for the criminal he is, weren’t fooled.
Now nearly 60% aren’t fooled either.
They give the little chickenhawk punk and UNFAVORABLE rating, right down there with his fellow criminal president, Nixon!
Now, no thanks to YOU, you slimy, nasty TROLL, we are back ON TOPIC!
July 4th, 2007 at 4:15 pm“Bush Squanderd his 92% approval rating by invading the wrong country”
Obviously it wasn’t going to stay at 92%. But it must eat you alive that Bush holds the record for the highest approval rating in the history of the gallup poll.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:16 pmJane I have seen your pic on your blog. I wouldn’t be calling anybody a troll if I were you. Not with that mug.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
I never claimed to be pretty. Obviously you don’t know the definition of a troll. But at least I’m beautiful on the inside, unlike you.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:16 pm“yet, if you were here last week, you would have seen thread after thread of “Paris†news!”
Gives liberals a reason to feel better about themselves, I guess.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pm#138
“How dare you whine about Dem “big govt—
Are you kidding? The Dems created MOST of the programs that got us into this fiscal problem. Talk about dumb. I don’t know how many times I have to say it but you you I will considering you haven’t been paying attention to this thread. The current Republican and those in the White House are……..not……conservatives. How is that? Slow enough for ‘ya?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pmI think you are beautiful, Jane.
Don’t let that A$$HOLE run you down.
Let’s see IT’S picture.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:19 pm“But, Jessie, by your own standards, both of these men are “chickenhawksâ€. Right?â€
No more so than Hillary or Barak Obama.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Except that both men activly avoided service in Vietnam, by seeking and geting deferments. Neither Hillary nor Obama sought or received deferments.
And both Fred and Rudy are far more enthusiastic supporters of war — oh, that’s right — I keep forgetting there are no degrees with you. It’s either all or nothing. Black or white. Ah well, I guess that saves wear-and-tear on your brain.
But as long as we’re clear — Jessie Saxton considers Fred and Rudy “chickenhawks”.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:20 pm#143
Any comment about the Dems running the Vietnam war?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:20 pmBTW, Jane,
Your link isn’t working….
July 4th, 2007 at 4:20 pmWhen a politican leaves office their ratings go up. Bush has been a better president than Carter or Clinton.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Please include the foundations upon you base this declarative. Otherwise I have no reason to agree nor disagree
July 4th, 2007 at 4:20 pm“And yes, the day after 911, although I didn’t actually support him, I stood with him, when he said “those who knocked these towers down will hear from us all soonâ€.”
Cheers, mate!
July 4th, 2007 at 4:21 pm“Except that both men activly avoided service in Vietnam, by seeking and geting deferments.”
I didn’t see Hillary or Obama rushing to sign up for any military service either.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:22 pmJane, you are awesome. Wayne is a lucky man. Thanks for your contributions to this forum — both of you.
I don’t think trolls like Jessie realize how much damage they do to the image of their kind with their childish crap.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:23 pmObviously it wasn’t going to stay at 92%
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Maybe if he had concentrated on Afghanistan, and actually caught Bin Laden, he would be at 93%.
Bush’s policies have demonstrated for the Whole World to see, what our $400 Billion a year Military can NOT DO, and p*ssed off the rest of the world to boot.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:23 pm#145
Point: Why is LBJ, the most incompetent commander in chief of the U.S. military ever, have a higher approval ranking than a president who was busted for burglary?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:23 pmComment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Thanks, trueblue!:-)
July 4th, 2007 at 4:24 pm“Why is LBJ, the most incompetent commander in chief of the U.S. military ever, have a higher approval ranking than a president who was busted for burglary?”
Comment by Tracy
Because of his civil rights record.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI didn’t see Hillary or Obama rushing to sign up for any military service either.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
Whatever. I guess NOT rushing to sign up for a war in you were too young to fight (Obama) or the wrong gender (Hillary) is the moral equivalent to actively avoiding service –as long as those actively avoiding service are Republicans.
But at least we’re clear — Jessie Saxton think that Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson are Chickenhawks.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:26 pm“yet, if you were here last week, you would have seen thread after thread of “Paris†news!â€
Gives liberals a reason to feel better about themselves, I guess.
Comment by Jessie Saxton
A search of her name brought these up:
ThinkFast: June 29, 2007
… Cutting him off, debate host Tavis Smiley referenced CNN’s recent decision to dump filmmaker Michael Moore in favor of a Paris Hilton interview, stating, “Senator Dodd, I was going to say, were you Paris Hilton you could have an hour, but you’re …
/2007/06/29/thinkfast-june-29-2007/
Filed under: ThinkFast
MSNBC anchor refuses to report on Paris.
MSNBC anchor Mika Brzezinski repeatedly refused to report on the Paris Hilton story yesterday morning.
/2007/06/28/msnbc-anchor-refuses-to-report-on-paris/
CNN covers CNN covering Paris Hilton.
… “CNN covered Paris Hilton arriving at CNN studios for her interview with Larry King.â€
/2007/06/27/cnn-covers-cnn-covering-paris-hilton/
Associated Press headline:
“World Awaits Paris Hilton’s Return.â€
/2007/06/26/associated-press/
CNN Dumps Michael Moore For Paris Hilton
Yesterday, CNN proudly announced that it has scored the first post-jail interview with Paris Hilton.
/2007/06/25/king-paris-moore/
NONE of those are complimentary.
All they were saying is that the right is SOOOOOOO concerned with Hilton that they are neglecting REAL NEWS!
Ugh. You disgust me.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:26 pmBush FAILED to keep his promise, and Osama Bin Laden to this day, is LAUGHING at the “master race”.
Bush FAILED at capturing or killing Osama Bin Laden, and then, like the wimp he is, tried to kill Iraqi’s and conquer their country, because they “Look” like the terrorists.
And he even FAILED at that.
George W Bush is the biggest loser of all time. He is the WORST American who ever lived, and his bungling incompetence will haunt him, and the RNC for the next 50 years.
Deal with it.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:26 pmWhy, thank you, spit take, I think you’re pretty cool yourself! :-)
Trueblue, I fixed the link. Forgot the damned ‘@’ part. Every once in a while those fields go to ‘null’, so I sometimes screw up when I’m retyping them.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:27 pm“Maybe if he had concentrated on Afghanistan, and actually caught Bin Laden, he would be at 93%.”
I wouldn’t rule out the capture of bin Laden in the next year. I hope it happens.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:27 pmLet us debunk several of the troll comments:
1. Poll numbers for recent presidents: Yes, Bush went to an all time high in the polls immediately after 9/11. A true tribute to his initial public statements as well as a true tribute to ALL AMERICANS PULLING TOGETHER TO SUPPORT HIM. So amazing that the President then became increasingly partisan and made routine practice of calling anyone who disagreed a traitor. Other presidents have endured short periods of low approval numbers such as Clinton. (Remember that they increased to over 60%) However, Bush has set a record for remaining below 50% approval rating for well over two years now. Indeed, no other president in modern history (including Nixon) has lost a approval of a majority for such a sustained period of time. I agree with Bush – one should not be swayed by polls which can swing wildly from week to week. However, Bushes’s polls have that continued trend that establishes the deep and sustained recognition that Bush and his team are truly incompetent.
2. Satisfaction with Congress: The trolls want to lay this on the Democrats. Note two things.
First, Congressional approval numbers were bad under a Republican controlled Congress. Indeed, they were low because of the dissatisfaction with Republican corruption and support for Bushes’s failed policies. The Republicans made it clear that they would work to block any substantive legislation by the Democrats. They have been unsuccessful in the House. However, the Senate has a bare Democratic majority (if you count the Liebercrat). The Republicans have followed their publicly disclosed tactic to oppose cloture and take any other action under the rules to block legislation. This is their right in a democracy. Just do not try to blame it on the Democrats. The Republicans have merely damage a democratic institution for their usual short term, partisan interest. Note that Democrats lead over Republicans in public approval
July 4th, 2007 at 4:27 pmBush stood on the bodies of 3000 DEAD AMERICANS, and made a “CAMPAIGN SPEECH”.
And the RNC has been painting their campaign signs with the blood of those Americans ever since.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:28 pm“59% have awakened.”
When Bush pulls back some of the troops next year, then what? Back to 51% approve? Is this what you really want?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:28 pmBush will not go back up in the polls.
People have his failure burned into their brains, and when he pulls the troops out, they’ll just remember all the ones who had to die waiting for the little prick to come to his senses.
Face it troll.
Your 15 minutes are up.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:31 pm#161
You first you little wimp.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:32 pm#165
You live in Texas? Where?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:33 pmThe blood of 3000 Americans crys up from the rubble of the Twin Towers for justice, and now, another 3600 Americans blood mingled with the blood of close to a MILLION Iraqis cries out for justice from the sands of Iraq.
And its only a matter of time, until the piper comes a calling for the RNC.
Your time is up, and nothing you say is going to change that.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:34 pmGives liberals a reason to feel better about themselves, I guess.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
It also provides a convenient alternate reality for them, in which Al the Goracle is infallible.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:35 pm“Bush will not go back up in the polls. ”
Polls go up and down. When Bush pulls back part of the troops, his numbers are going to skyrocket. Wait and see, chucklehead.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:35 pmLike Nixon, George Bush is hated and despised, only worse.
And the “Volksturm” (the last feeble holdouts, mostly boys and old men, of the German army still loyal to Hitler) who carry his water, are as equally hated and despised by Americans everywhere, and the entire world.
How can you escape damnation?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:36 pmBartlebee, what about the remaining 14% who continue to carry the water for the Democrat congress. Do you have any scorn for them?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:38 pmLittle trolls, smug and arrogant over the deaths of 3000 Americans who died on 911. Arrogantly murdering in theirs and our names, laughing, mocking and doing everything under the sun, except for bringing to justice those responsible for murdering 3000 Americans.
They mock Clinton endlessly, but history has accuratley recorded for the entire world to read, that Clinton GOT his terrorist.
And BUSH, for all his, and the trolls tough talk, NEVER got his.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:39 pmMr. President and Tracy: This was fun. We have to do this again some time!
July 4th, 2007 at 4:43 pmBush is far worse than Nixon and by the time he slithers out of office, the polls will reflect that.
George W. Bush – the worst president in American history.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:43 pmThe trolls will like, and like that piece of human fecal matter named Jessie, will present false numbers, calling 24 percent 14, and tip toe over every comment I have made, to try to get me to engage them on their issues, and their terms, but I won’t.
Because I KNOW, that George W Bush, climbed onto the rubble of the Twin Towers, containing the bodies of 3000 DEAD AMERICANS, and shouted a promise into a microphone that he NEVER HONORED, and most likely never intended to honor.
The RNC tried to prop up their cause on the bodies of 3000 DEAD AMERICANS who died on 911, but thankfully, today, Americans aren’t buying it anymore.
And the neocon pigs who support this coward commander in chief, can’t sell it.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:43 pmBushes primary guide when making decisions:
“Whatever pisses off my Dad”
July 4th, 2007 at 4:43 pm“I wouldn’t rule out the capture of bin Laden in the next year. I hope it happens.”
Comment by Jessie Saxton
I think it will be a little longer wait, say about 16 months, that will put it into October of 2008.
He, or someone looking a lot like him, anyways, will be trotted out, bound in velvet rope, and “imprisoned” in an undisclosed location, somewhere in Saudi Arabia. (pick your palace)
The republican nominee will receive the credit for his capture, as it will be his nominee for vice -president who will have “found” him.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:45 pmBill Clinton not only GOT HIS TERRORIST, the one who attacked American soil, butchering 300 Americans and blowing a whole in the side of the Oklahoma Federal Bldg the size of Montana, and he is now DEAD.
Meanwhile, the man BUSH PROMISED to bring to justice, while he stood on the bodies of 3000 DEAD AMERICANS who DIED ON HIS WATCH, is LAUGHING at us.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:47 pm“I wouldn’t rule out the capture of bin Laden in the next year. I hope it happens.â€
Comment by Jessie Saxton
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA
Its only been SIX YEARS! LOL.
Bush is an utter failure.
He did not keep his promise.
He is a failure.
And AMERICA HATES HIM.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:50 pmHis WIFE hates him.
His DAD hates him.
Even his brother now HATES him.
Bush has disgraced his family for the next 100 years.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:50 pmBartlebee, what about the remaining 14% who continue to carry the water for the Democrat congress. Do you have any scorn for them?
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
Jeebus Effin Cripes, will you give it up already?
I know you love saying “14%” , but doesn’t it matter at all to you that it’s false?
July 4th, 2007 at 4:52 pmIts only been SIX YEARS! LOL.
Bush is an utter failure.
He did not keep his promise.
He is a failure.
And AMERICA HATES HIM.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
And the region between Afghanistan and Pakistan where bin Laden is living (hardly can call it “hiding out”) has only become more and more secure for the Taliban and Al Qaeda, so the odds of ever catching bin Laden are almost nonexistent. We had our chance and blew it, thanks to Bush and his insane plans for Iraq.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:53 pmYeah and apparently the only ones supporting the president happen to be the entire Republican field of presidential candidates–especially in reference to the Libby deal.
Or, the “pro-Life war advocates”.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:53 pmNot only is Bin Laden still on the loose, but Al Qaeda has reconstituted its training camps in Pakistan. I’m confused…are the Pakistani’s with us or against us.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:54 pmNo, he pays more for energy because he demands only renewable energy. But go back and listen to Limbaugh, he’ll agree with you.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:54 pmMr. President and Tracy: This was fun. We have to do this again some time!
Comment by Jessie Sadsong — July 4, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
Translation: “we’re getting our asses kicked, lets get outa here!”
July 4th, 2007 at 4:55 pmComment by Sharon — July 4, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
You’re too kind. (blush)
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 4, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
I’m waiting for Barney to attack him, too.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:56 pmI know you love saying “14%†, but doesn’t it matter at all to you that it’s false?
Comment by spit take — July 4, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Here. Let me drive the final nail in his coffin.
Congressional Job Approval
According to the June 11-14, 2007, survey, 24% of Americans approve and 71% disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job.
The GALLUP Poll
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27937
Case closed.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:58 pm#209
And you accuse me of calling other people names? Someone need to slap you…but good.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Ah, yes, the right-wing tactic of first resort — violence.
Could be because the trolls here can’t argue their way out of a wet paper bag.
July 4th, 2007 at 4:59 pmJessie Saxton: “Still, the Democrat congress is lower with only a 14% approval rating.”
Question for you….team “A” collects X numer of apples, team “B” collects Y numer of apples. Combined, they collect 100 apples. Which team collected more?
Uh, this is impossible to tell. How is this relevant?
You can’t assume that when people are asked about their (dissapproval) of a congress, they mean Democrats. The split in congress is what, 52% Democrat/48% Repulican?
For all you know the Democrats could be keeping the number in the double-digits. If you want a TRUE measure of of congressional approval the question would have to ask, “Do you approve of the Democratic leadership in congress?” Then ask the same thing of republican leadership. Then take a weighted average…this would be a true reflection of congressional approval. Bottom line…don’t read too much into “Democrat’s low congressional approval ratings.”
July 4th, 2007 at 5:01 pmNot only is Bin Laden still on the loose, but Al Qaeda has reconstituted its training camps in Pakistan.
Comment by Badger — July 4, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
If I might add to your excellent comment Badger, no only is Al Qaueda being reconstituted in Pakistan, as they showed on the all the Nightly News channels two nights ago, Al Quaeda has become a million times more powerful thanks to the policies and strategies of the idiot named Bush.
No longer is AL Quaeda a small organization headed by a single individual or group.
Now its as the CIA calls it, “A FRANCHISE”.
Because of the HATRED of Americans, CREATED by George W Bush and the idiots in the right wing, Al Queada “FRANCHISES” are springing up everywhere.
For each Al Quaeda member we kill, 1000 new ones are being created.
This kind of COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE, is why George W Bush, is the MOST HATED MAN IN THE WORLD.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:02 pmBush thinks he’ll be remembered as a great president a hundred years from now.
The only way this might be possible is if the government ends up creating one of those flashy devices that Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith use in “Men in Black” to erase one’s memory.
Of course, the administration would then have to find a way to secretly engage a substantial amount of the population’s attention. Obviously, this won’t happen in any of his upcoming State of the Unions…….
Maybe when they bomb Iran they’ll get the chance.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:03 pmBoy, bring up the fact Bush is one of the least popular presidents in all of American history, and the Acerebralists go crazy. It demonstrates the need for stronger education standards in this country. Unless subverting the constitution to which he swore an oath to support and defend is a positive trait, I just don’t understand why anyone can be so enamored of Bush. Or Cheney, for that matter. Or Gonzales, or Rumsfeld, or Rice, or…
July 4th, 2007 at 5:04 pmI’m waiting for Barney to attack him, too.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 4, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Actually thats already happened. If you think back to 2003, Barney BIT at him, when he tried to pick him up going to Marine 1.
Its on film, we all saw it. Rememeber that one, lol?
When a mans own dog doesn’t like him, well, … it doesn’t get any lower than that.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:04 pmHey Tracy, you not big enough , fast enough or good enough to slap me or any woman….We got you pegged..TROLL…Or if you dare, a quote from the biggest troll and chicken shit in the world, your leader bull shit bush..”Bring it on” up close and personal or just go away……
July 4th, 2007 at 5:08 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — July 4, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
Was that when Bush dropped Barney on his head? That poor, poor dog. No dog deserves a master like Bush!
July 4th, 2007 at 5:10 pmHe rose to the occasion after 9/11, and 92% approved of his job performance. Probably even you.
Comment by Jessie Saxton
So you agree that Bush let 9/11 happen to boost his pathetic job performance. Of course now that we know that he allowed, maybe even encouraged it to happen, you’re still gloating over the temporary approval ratings. How dumb are you 27 percenters?
July 4th, 2007 at 5:11 pmAfter 9/11 people “said†they supported Bush because the country was in crisis. So because some lied to support the country you’ll attack Democrats for that.
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Actually it says a lot about the utter failures of Bush, that so many, like myself, stood with him after 911, and have since, LEFT HIM IN DROVES.
Just like he squandered the sympathy and empathy from the entire world after 911, so he squandered the support of 75 percent of the country, with his utter bungling incompetence and cruel wanton butchery of innocent civillians.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:12 pmI wonder if the Goracle will pull some strings to get is son off the hook…
Comment by Mr. President
He doesn’t have to pull strings, he can just pardon him when he’s president.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmActually it says a lot about the utter failures of Bush, that so many, like myself, stood with him after 911, and have since, LEFT HIM IN DROVES.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 4, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
Exactly right, Bartlebee. Was it you who pointed out that Bush 43 holds the distinction for the greatest drop in approval in US history? That’s going to be a tough record to beat.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:15 pmWas that when Bush dropped Barney on his head? That poor, poor dog. No dog deserves a master like Bush!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 4, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
LOL, that was actually ANOTHER incident. This time, he was trying to pick him up to get on Marine 1, and Barney SNAPPED at him.
:D
It was too funny.
Its one thing when a dog doesn’t like a person. But when your OWN dog doesn’t like you, LMAO.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:15 pmYou sir, are a fraud and a coward. Which is typical for a Lefty.
Comment by Mr. President
Says the COWARD who posts under ten different names every day.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:15 pmSays the COWARD who posts under ten different names every day.
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
Like the lady said, “Dead on balls accurate.”
July 4th, 2007 at 5:16 pmJessie Saxton
The nation always gathers round a leader in a time of crisis. Bush had the support of the world September 12th 2001. He decided that we didn’t matter. Look where we are now. The US is generally disliked, we (the US and UK) are stuck in two wars that we can’t really win, and both our countries are morally redundant due to our abuse of prisoners. Islamic extremism is on the rise.
Where is the success in this?
July 4th, 2007 at 5:16 pmExactly right, Bartlebee. Was it you who pointed out that Bush 43 holds the distinction for the greatest drop in approval in US history?
Comment by spit take — July 4, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
No, but I wish it was, lol.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:17 pm#219
No you wimps quit. Doesn’t suprise me. I was just getting started.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:22 pmJane, is that you with the blonde hair by the white dog?
If so, who said you were unnattractive?
You’re good looking.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pm#223
Hey that’s only after the left-wing first tatic “name calling” because they can’t debate.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:25 pm“Jane I have seen your pic on your blog. I wouldn’t be calling anybody a troll if I were you. Not with that mug.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 4:13 pm”
Ahhhh, the old Ann Coulter line. How refreshing.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:26 pmOk. Tracy the troll is back. 40 unanswered comments, and he slimes in and says we can’t debate.
You just got your ass handed to you Tracy, but if you’re ready for round 2, I’ve got all afternoon, punk.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:26 pmJane, you are too kind. I think f*ck you is the only comment appropriate for a piece of troll manure like Jessie.
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
Perhaps, but Jane and I recognize the pathetic ramblings of a desperate Acerebralist when we see one. They can’t refute the arguments, so they attack the people making them. We see this all the time in the Bush administration and, even more so, in its supporters. It says more about them than they are capable of seeing themselves. Sticks and stones…
And I love my wife, no matter what anyone with an IQ in the two-digit range thinks about her.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:26 pmComment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
Hmmm, perhaps it would be better to pick a fight that you can win. To do that you have to understand the enemy. Lets be fair Tracy, the US and the UK have not had a scooby doo in Afghanistain or Iraq. The whole thing has been a shocker.
Incidentally, I supported the invasion of Afghanistain but not the invasion of Iraq so please don’t call me some sort of tree hugging hippy.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:26 pm“Jane, you are too kind. I think f*ck you is the only comment appropriate for a piece of troll manure like Jessie.”
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
Oh, that came later!:D
Bartlebee, thanks, you’re being kind. I may not be pretty, but at least I’m not a troll!
July 4th, 2007 at 5:27 pmThey can’t refute the arguments, so they attack the people making them.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 4, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Thats ALL they do.
They NEVER debate morals or logic. They only ATTACK individuals when irrefutable logic confronts them.
There FIRST and ONLY method, is to attack the messenger.
Which is why they’re little punks.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:28 pmI agree Shane,…Pitiful troll’s, they have no souls and black heart’s just like their leader heir bush…No good comment’s ever, all they do is post lies and flip shit and then when we flip back they act insulted…Bush is the worst self imposed president ever, also the only one..Time will prove how bad this administration is.. .Blessings
July 4th, 2007 at 5:29 pm“Hey that’s only after the left-wing first tatic “name calling†because they can’t debate.”
Is that supposed to be a sentence? Am I supposed to accept a “critique” of debate stylings from someone who can neither spell nor express a simple (very simple, no doubt) thought?
I tried to diagram that … uh, thing … and the diagram turned out to be a picture of a Klein bottle! Typical republitroll inability to think clearly, I’d say.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:29 pm#224
No, I would have my wife do it. You can only be a coward and definitely not a man because you are suggesting I find a man to hit a woman.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:29 pm“You can only be a coward and definitely not a man because you are suggesting I find a man to hit a woman.”
Have you ever heard of or used a comma?
July 4th, 2007 at 5:30 pmBartlebee, thanks, you’re being kind. I may not be pretty, but at least I’m not a troll!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 4, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
You’re pretty. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Not just on the inside, but you have great eyes, great skin, great blonde hair.
Don’t let a troll, who thinks the walking stick with a blond hair and black roots named Coulter is hot, tell you different.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:31 pm#227
NATO in in charge of Afghanistan.
“Al Quaeda has become a million times more powerful thanks to the policies and strategies of the idiot named Bush.”
What are you smoking? It’s splintered and fractured and is not near as capable as it was in 2000.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:31 pmWe love her to Wayne, not the same ofcourse but we love her non the less….Blessings
July 4th, 2007 at 5:33 pmBARTLEBEE,
You know I’m right here, don’t you? :)
(And thanks! I chose her out of thousands.)
July 4th, 2007 at 5:33 pmWas that when Bush dropped Barney on his head? That poor, poor dog. No dog deserves a master like Bush!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Actually it seems like Barney dropped Bush on his head. Who’s dumber after all.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“Actually it seems like Barney dropped Bush on his head. Who’s dumber after all.”
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
LOL!
July 4th, 2007 at 5:35 pmJust like he squandered the sympathy and empathy from the entire world after 911, so he squandered the support of 75 percent of the country, with his utter bungling incompetence and cruel wanton butchery of innocent civillians.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
That’s why I don’t care what the polls say, he’s much worse than even Nixon was. And he’s still lying and covering up all the treachery, what will happen when he’s out of power.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:36 pmLike the lady said, “Dead on balls accurate.â€
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Why thank you sir. Stll waiting for kitten pictures though, tap, tap, tap.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pmAl Qaeda is…not near as capable as it was in 2000.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Tracy….Known Al Qaeda members were on the Passenger Lists of the hijacked planes. They used their REAL Names. This, after Bush was warned that they were planning to attack America. Capable??? I think Bush was asleep at the switch!!
July 4th, 2007 at 5:40 pmComment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Al Quaida is now basically a brand name. I agree it’s not what it was in 2000 but it was never a coherent terrorist operation as, say, the IRA. It was a place to get ideas and funding.
It no longer operates as it does but now acts as an inspiration. Is that better or worse? I’d say worse because you can kill members of a movement but you can’t kill an idea.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pmThis president is deservedly the worst president. He started a war with a country that didn’t pose any national security threat to us. Iraq had nothing to do with either 9-11 or bin Laden. Saddam had no ties to al Qaeda. Iraq had no WMDs despite what administration officials repeatedly told the American people. Ambassador Wilson’s criticisms of this policy were right, that’s why 16 words were later stricken from the Congressional record of the president’s State of the Union address. That is why the covert status of CIA agent Valarie Plame was outed to get back at her husband who was telling the truth. Scooter Libby should have gone to jail for his crimes. His sentence should never have been commuted. Libby is a convicted felon, and deserved to spent the next 30 months in jail.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pmSay poster’s take a look at #255 Tracy (bush) would get his wife to hit me..LOL..Bush doe’s use the computer, he’s here….Or at least his clone is, send in some one else to do his dirty work….Just another chickenhawk…LMAO……Have a great 4th..I’m off to get a big Thank you feast for my great neighbor’s that helped me on Monday…..Blessing to all but the troll’s.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pmTime will prove how bad this administration is.. .Blessings
Comment by Sharon
It’s all downhill from here. Bush will make Nixon look like a charmer when history judges them both.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:47 pm#233
I wouldn’t do it but my wife would have field day with you.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:50 pmKittens ….
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
Thank you. The kitten pictures will have to wait until the film is developed. Patience, my friend, patience.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:51 pmAl Quaeda has become a million times more powerful thanks to the policies and strategies of the idiot named Bush.â€
What are you smoking? It’s splintered and fractured and is not near as capable as it was in 2000.
Comment by Tracy
This is a put on Tracy, right. You can’t possibly be as dumb and out of touch with reality as you sound, can you?
July 4th, 2007 at 5:54 pm#250
I have answered most of the ones directed at me.
“You just got your ass handed to you Tracy, but if you’re ready for round 2, I’ve got all afternoon, punk.”
By you? That’s funny. Who exactly are you falsely complimenting?
July 4th, 2007 at 5:54 pmComment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Hey Tracy
I know this is meant to be a place where left and right kick off against each other but I did try to post an objective message at #267. I honestly wondered what you thought.
Cheers
Dave
July 4th, 2007 at 5:55 pm#254
The messenger half the time is full of shit!
July 4th, 2007 at 5:56 pm#254
I can’t help it if you can’t understand, especially comming from someone who uses madeup words.
July 4th, 2007 at 5:58 pm#258
Damn, you must be friends with Lora.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:00 pmNot likely, troll tracy, bigger and better men and women then you and her have tried in the past and I’m still standing and they are not….I have no Fear….Troll’s are like leaches and die off when we drain their scummy little pond…Shine light on you and your’s and back under the bridge you wil scurry….Be gone, you surve no purpose here and have no redeming qualaties…
July 4th, 2007 at 6:01 pm#264
What do you mean by clients?
July 4th, 2007 at 6:05 pmAl Qaeda is…not near as capable as it was in 2000.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
This poor pathetic troll is the worst i’ve seen yet. 40 comments go unanswered as he gets his ass handed to him, and then, when he thinks everyones gone, he sneaks in and leaves 3 or 4 one liners in a pitiful attempt to appear like he’s responded.
Unfortunately it was broadcast on network television on the evening news 2 nights ago, and as the CIA has told us, AL Quaeda has gone from a small, heirarchal organization, to a MASSIVE FRANCHISE, thanks to the policies of George W Bush.
Now Al Queada has branched out, and spread like a web across the globe.
So there you go America.
Here’s the uneducated fool that thinks he’s better on terrorism than a democrat would be.
A guy who doesn’t even know whats going on around him.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:08 pmWhat do you mean by clients?
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
Gee, I don’t know how to put it any nicer.
What do you call em?
Johns?
July 4th, 2007 at 6:08 pmComment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
I never said that. To confirm, that isn’t UK slang. If I had said that I would have told you that “you got served up son”.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:09 pm#270
“We all know each other, we know we’re talking truth to bullshit.”
You know each other? My condolences.
“What can you prove other than being a braindead, sycophantic traitor Bush supporter?”
That you and your friends are intellectually incompetent liberal zombies.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:09 pm#270
I would only have her do it to help you out with your problem. I’m trying to help you.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:13 pmBartlebee, thanks, you’re being kind. I may not be pretty, but at least I’m not a troll!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
And you’re from Yonk-is!
July 4th, 2007 at 6:17 pm#277
Please explain how this organization is more capable as carrying out another 9/11. The number of terrorists you have isn’t as important as their individual capablities or their “quality”, which is obvious it’s been in free fall since 9/11.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:18 pm#279
I don’t think you posted #267. By all means correct yourself.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:20 pmComment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
We could just add up the numbers……
July 4th, 2007 at 6:21 pmPlease explain how this organization is more capable as carrying out another 9/11. The number of terrorists you have isn’t as important as their individual capablities or their “qualityâ€, which is obvious it’s been in free fall since 9/11.
Comment by DICK Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
None too bright are you?
Well genius, for one thing, Bin Laden has been permitted to build a small Army in Kashmir, and soon will march into Pakistan to overthrow Bush’s puppet Musharraf and grab the nukes.
For another thing, before they were a handful.
That meant a handful of chances after 911, with our naturally heightened security to deal with.
Now, they are in the millions.
That means MILLIONS more chances to strike.
You should try a statistic course sometime pinhead.
You wouldn’t look so stupid if you did.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pmPlease explain how this organization is more capable as carrying out another 9/11. The number of terrorists you have isn’t as important as their individual capablities or their “qualityâ€, which is obvious it’s been in free fall since 9/11.
Comment by Tracy
Jeeze, that’s a relief. Now Bush can bring all the troops home from Iraq. Here he was telling us what a huge threat Al Qaeda was, and the whole UK is in a panic about them, and it turns out they’re a paper tiger.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pm#284
Bring BARLEBEE too.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pmComment by gummitch — July 4, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
Can I just confirm that the UK isn’t in a panic. Someone has been trying to blow me up all my life. Big deal. We just get on with it.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:27 pmCan’t we get the RNC to send in some better trolls who aren’t as stupid as this throwback?
I mean, come on, I know its a holiday and all but geeesh.
He’s as dumb as a rock.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:28 pmCan I just confirm that the UK isn’t in a panic. Someone has been trying to blow me up all my life. Big deal. We just get on with it.
Comment by UKBristolDave
My error. Probably should have said “UK government and media”.
I hear it’s raining again, Dave.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:29 pm#299
“Well genius, for one thing, Bin Laden has been permitted to build a small Army in Kashmir, and soon will march into Pakistan to overthrow Bush’s puppet Musharraf and grab the nukes.”
Yeah right and you can lead the way Gomer!
Now I know you know nothing about counter terrorism, because you seem to think that quantity trumps quality.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:29 pmCan’t we get the RNC to send in some better trolls who aren’t as stupid as this throwback?
I mean, come on, I know its a holiday and all but geeesh.
He’s as dumb as a rock.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Yeah, but, he’s gonna kick yer butt. Grrrrr.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:29 pm#293
Find BARTLEBEE and chingebush…you will need their help.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:31 pm“And you’re from Yonk-is!”
Comment by gummitch — July 4, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Yep, me and my whole fam-damily! My cousin, who lives in Florida now, sometimes says when people annoy her, “Don’t get my Yonkis up!”
July 4th, 2007 at 6:31 pmYeah, but, he’s gonna kick yer butt.
Comment by gummitch — July 4, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Yea? Well I wish he’d start.
Cause I’ve been handing this fools ass to him for the last 5 hours, and frankly, I’m getting bored.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:32 pmComment by gummitch — July 4, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
It’s pissing down. I can’t mow my lawn. More importantly, a rumour exists that Bristol City will be taken over by a Far East consortium. Worrying times.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:34 pm#308
How many years have passed since 9/11? BTW when was 9/11 planned and plotted?
Also have you talk to chingebush and gummitch yet?
July 4th, 2007 at 6:36 pmCan I just confirm that the UK isn’t in a panic. Someone has been trying to blow me up all my life. Big deal. We just get on with it.
Comment by UKBristolDave
You don’t have to Dave. I know lots of guys from London and thereabouts, and they have pointed out (to my disdain mind you, lol) that England is not full of REPUBLICAN COWARDS, who JUMP everytime the terrorists say BOO.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:36 pm#311
Wishfull thinking. BTW I like the odds here in this blog.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:37 pmWhat would you like to see?
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Scott Rasmussen is a Republican Boot licker all the way back to college days. Get some real data.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:41 pmThe Grand Ole Party is a thing of the past…failed miserably at governance even though they stole two presidential elections.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:42 pm#308
Why are you trying to equate the terrorista on 9/11 using “low tech” method like box cutters as not being “quality” terrorists? The very fact that they were able to use these “low tech” weapons show how capable and well trained they were. Again for you to think the quantity is more dangerous than quality show how little you know about counter terrorism.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:42 pm#305
Why are you trying to equate the terrorista on 9/11 using “low tech†method like box cutters as not being “quality†terrorists? The very fact that they were able to use these “low tech†weapons show how capable and well trained they were. Again for you to think the quantity is more dangerous than quality show how little you know about counter terrorism.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:47 pmHere. Let me repeat your folly in case you planned on burying it, since you obviously are too scared to respond to the answer I gave you TWICE now.
The dumbass said this.
Now I know you know nothing about counter terrorism, because you seem to think that quantity trumps quality.
Comment by Mook Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
And then I pointed out.
the last time they killed 3000 Americans on the Republicans watch, that their “high tech†methods and weapons consisted of BOX CUTTERS and AIRLINE TICKETS
See, this twit think he knows something about terrorists.
He doesn’t.
Just like the fools didn’t know there were Sunni and SHia in Iraq, the fools also have forgotten that Bin Laden doesn’t USE high tech strategies, or complicated routines.
He uses whatevers at hand.
You know nothing about terrorism. Neither does your party leadership, or the pig you call a president.
All you know is your 15 minutes of killing Americans and others, is up.
And thats why you’re in here, on a holiday, in a liberal\progressive blog, screaming like a stuck pig.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:49 pmThe very fact that they were able to use these “low tech†weapons show how capable and well trained they were
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
Again you show how little you know about terrorism.
It had nothing to do with being “highly trained” junior.
It had to do with the response rules for hijackers that was present at the time, which was to DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID.
Idiot.
You can’t even remember recent history and you think you’re a terrorism expert, lol?
Get a job mook.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:51 pmAfter all, your wife did.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:52 pmTracy,
I am in a small town of Show Low Arizona, are you close?
I can do Albuquerque, Tuscon, Phoenix.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:54 pmI however, do remember 911.
I remember GEORGE W BUSH, CLIMBING ONTO THE BODIES OF 3000 DEAD AMERICANS, and PROMISING to get the people responsible.
But now, 6 years later, WHERE’s BIN LADEN?
RUNNING AROUND FREE, PLANNING HIS NEXT ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL.
While Bush fiddles and invades non threatening, non involved countries.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:55 pmTracey; Could the “capable and well trained” hijackers pull off their evil plan the same way today.?? Obviously they could not. In addition to boxcutters and airline tickets….they had an even more dangerous weapon…SURPRISE.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:56 pmOnce Americans understood their plans, they were stopped over a field in Pennsylvania.
Bush had his eyes on Missile Defense, and was Blindsided by Boxcutters. Air Marshalls or a carefull check of the Passenger lists could have PREVENTED the entire tragedy. It’s too late now, but the hijackers success was mostly due to incompetent national defense policy.
“…the fools also have forgotten that Bin Laden doesn’t USE high tech strategies, or complicated routines”
The 9/11 plot was increditably complex! Are you high or something? It was conceived in 1999 you and took till 2001 to execute it! Please do us all a favor and do some studying on al Qaeda and the 9/11 plot before you post again.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:57 pmBut now, 6 years later, WHERE’s BIN LADEN?
With this guy “hot on his trail”?
Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him [Osama bin Laden]. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.
July 4th, 2007 at 6:57 pm– George W. Bush, White House, Mar. 13, 2002
The 9/11 plot was increditably complex!
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
To a simple mind like yours perhaps.
But to the rest of us, visting a staples and buying box cutters, purchasing Airline tickets, and taking enough flying lessons to steer an airplane doesn’t take too much thought.
In fact, the mooks weren’t even sure what flights they were taking until the day they left.,
All they needed to do was pick flights going a long way so they’d have lots of fuel.
Real complicated chief.
If you’re 3.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:00 pm#323
How about Denver? I live in Dallas and will be at Aurora Medical Center South Campus in Aurora on July 25, 2007 on a OAC meeting for the hospital that we are adding on to (hospital…how convenient!). Outside the JE Dunn construction trailer along Potomac Ave., 2:00 p.m.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:02 pm911, complicated.
LOL.
Yea, buy boxcutters.
Plane tickets.
Flying lessons.
Wrist watches.
:|
Masterminds.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:03 pm#325
I agree, but it’s a fact that al Qaeda’s trainees today are not of the same caliber and capability as they were in 2001. The fact that so many citizens are more aware and vigilant will demand that the terrorists be even MORE capable and well trained for them to pull off another attack. Again quality, as far as terrorists are concerned, is more important than quantity. Please try to explain this to BARTLEBEE.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:09 pm#328
TP, you produced this guy? Pathetic.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:11 pm#320
How about Denver? I live in Dallas and will be at Aurora Medical Center South Campus in Aurora on July 25, 2007 on a OAC meeting for the hospital that we are adding on to (hospital…how convenient!). Outside the JE Dunn construction trailer along Potomac Ave., 2:00 p.m.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI agree, but it’s a fact that al Qaeda’s trainees today are not of the same caliber and capability as they were in 2001.
Comment by Tracy — July 4, 2007 @ 7:09 pm
You don’t know what they’re like, because we have very little intel on them dipshit.
But once again, if you think it took “high caliber” to wave some knifes around and steer a jet, then you need to head back to spy school.
People have been hijacking airplanes for a long time numbskull, and theres nothing “quality” about it.
And besides, they don’t have to get good, just lucky.
The more guys who try, the more Americans who will die.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:19 pmAnd if you’re trying to invite me to Denver, sorry sally, but if you want a peice of me, you’ll have to come here.
Here, I’l help you out.
I live in DC. I train on Saturday and Thursday nights at the DC Shotokan Club on S Street. (its actually the Boy’s and Girl’s Club, 3265 S Street, NW). Show up next time you’re in town, and I’ll teach you a little about “combatting terrorism”.
Hows that work for you?
July 4th, 2007 at 7:25 pmbush has got him beat.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:27 pmAnd if you bring friends, which you guys always do, I’m sure we’ll have a few hosts on hand to keep them entertained.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:28 pmBy the way, I’m usually only there from 6:30 to around quarter of 8:00, so come early.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:32 pmI don’t know what evil plans al Qaeda is hatching for America, but I seriously doubt that it will involve Hijacked American Airplanes. That horse is out of the Barn. Airport security has been brought up to speed.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:33 pmAl Qaeda cancelled a planned poison gas attack in New York because it wouldn’t be SPECTACULAR enough. So I doubt they will try an amateur attack like those recently in England.
As long as we stay in Iraq, Al Qaeda doesn’t NEED to attack us. We are doing plenty of damage to ourselves and our standing in the World. 911 was bait, and Bush took it.
Unfortunately there are still HUGE vulnerabilities in America’s free and open society. And Al Qaeda is probably smart enough to discover them.
Still, their major advantage of Surprise is gone. Bush is now paying attention to Al Qaeda.
Before 9-11 when someone highjacked a plane, everyone thought that it was to go somewhere (Libya, Egypt,Cuba, Detroit…who knows).
The passengers were affraid to resist because the didn’t know the end result if they did nothing was death.
They would feel a responsibility to the others not to risk a crash by attempting to take back control of the plane.
It was the only “smart” thing the highjackers did. Took advantage of the fact that a plane as weapon hadn’t been done before.
Harder to do now because as soon as someone snores to loud, the passengers want to kill them in self defense.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:35 pm“Lyndon Johnson (42%), Bill Clinton (41%), and the first President Bush (41%) are the only other Presidents viewed unfavorably by at least 40% of Americans.â€
Comment by Tracy
So that essentially means that three out of the five presidents with the worst ratings have been Rethugs, and that all three presidents claiming to hail from your home state of Texas are among the worst-rated, too. Be proud, lad.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:44 pmHarder to do now because as soon as someone snores to loud, the passengers want to kill them in self defense.
Comment by willyloman — July 4, 2007 @ 7:35 pm
Which is why thats the last thing they’ll try again.
We don’t need high priced analysts to figure out what their next plan of attack will be in this country.
Whatever we are paying the least attention to is where they will strike.
:|
Duh.
July 4th, 2007 at 8:21 pmDubya Bush is a miserable failure, part of the Dick Cheney/KkKarl Rove crime family…the 26%ers are just too stupid to accept it.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:11 pm# 74
Quit being lazy, and post the actual comment, and forget the stupid comment number.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 4, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
;)
July 4th, 2007 at 10:15 pmTracy/Rove Clone/Troll has folks on this thread talking about 9/11!
The topic of this thread is a poll showing that the current corrupt, criminal president has an unfavorable rating rivaling the 60% unfavorable rating of the criminal Nixon.
The reason for the huge unfavorable rating may be a matter of speculation. However, the result of the poll is NOT. The current corrupt, criminal president and the criminal Nixon share an unfavorable rating that exceeds ALL other presidents.
Distractions, obfuscation, and outright LIES by NASTY, PERVERTED TROLLS cannot detract from the REALITY of the UNFAVORABLE rating!
July 4th, 2007 at 10:16 pmPresident Bush is the worst president second only after Nixon. Bush is the worst only because he refuses to admit that this war is lost and he is responsible for this loss. The Iraq war will be Bush’s Vietnam war.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:29 pmYes, Congress only started taking on water when they couldn’t get the war to end. Actually, the problem is that 15 Republicans couldn’t be found to vote with us.
But this happens all the time: Clinton said he’d bring universal health care; when he couldn’t deliver, his popularity went low enough for the GOP takeover. So because people were disappointed with the failure of health care, they elected the party who wouldn’t deliver it on principle.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:35 pmAnd Bush has over 17 months to go! More than enough time to cement his hold on that highly coveted No 1 slot – “The Most Unpopular President. Ever.”
July 4th, 2007 at 10:40 pmHe’s ruined his party, his ideology, and republicans’ chances of ever being in control again.
Now there’s a trifecta!
Comment by barfly
Don’t forget fundy Christians. This isn’t a trifecta, it’s a Grand Slam!!!
July 4th, 2007 at 10:43 pmOy, 344 comments, but I’ll put my.02 in.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:47 pmYou know why Bush is below 30%?
Iraq.
You know why nothing he’ll do will bring it back up?
KATRINA.
Who the heck are the 6 percent of people who have an unfavorable opinion of George Washington?
July 4th, 2007 at 10:49 pm#3 Who can take seriously a person who can’t even get the name of the party they’re criticizing right?
July 4th, 2007 at 11:07 pmIs it true you have to be both stupid and illiterate to be a Republican?
You cllipped that portion of the poll that puts Bill Clinton with George Bush I at 41 percent.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:21 pmhttp://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/04/bill-clinton-still-a-loser/
I would take Nixon as president in a heartbeat over Bush.
His domestic policies were far more progressive, and his foreign policy was a lot more effective.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:28 pm#335
http://www.jb-williams.com/plotoverview.htm
If it was so “easy” to pull off as you ignorantly claim then why couldn’t Clinton figure the plot out during the two years in which it was being trained for?
BTW you could’t blow up a mail box without getting caught.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:01 am#343
Bush 41 isn’t from Texas little girl.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:08 amI’m impressed with W’s 0% “not sure”.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:17 amBush 41 isn’t from Texas little girl.
Comment by Tracy
That’s why I wrote “claim to be from Texas, ” little boy. Such subleties of the English language are obviously over your little brain.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:24 amBTW, Bush 43 wasn’t born in Texas, either.
#333
Ask your “friends” here who Ryan Neat is.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:24 am#362
Bush ‘41 doesn’t claim to be from Texas either!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:26 amPs. Tracy-troll,
July 5th, 2007 at 12:31 amI think you might have noticed by now that the numbers on these posts change. When you keep on using a no longer accurate number to address a previous comment, a lot of people won’t know what you’re referring to. If you are too lazy to quote part of the specific comment, as some other poster suggested, or are too snooty to address a liberal/progressive by his/her blog name (heaven forbid!), then perhaps you ought to give this up already.
Bush ‘41 doesn’t claim to be from Texas either!
Comment by Tracy
Sorry, kiddo, but if someone has served as Congressman from Texas and runs for Senate from Texas (though he lost that one), he is claiming to be from Texas (even though even he may not claim to have been born there, which, of course, he wasn’t).
July 5th, 2007 at 12:35 am#360
It’s late. BTW it’s none of your business anyway who I am addressing little girl, especially if the post isn’t addressing you.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:42 amOh, but, little troll-boy Tracy, you do sometimes address me, and it’s so funny to get treated condescendingly by a guy with your lower grammar school-level spelling and knowledge of “grammer”(your {mis}spelling). Also, aren’t you trying to persuade TP readers to your line of thinking, or do you just like to see your name in print?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:48 am#363
Tell me how it is your business if the post isn’t direct toward you? BTW Hillary is a New York Senator but that witch sure as hell isn’t from New York and could never claim to be.
“Also, aren’t you trying to persuade TP readers to your line of thinking, or do you just like to see your name in print?”
No I like to debate with others here, but you aren’t one of them because I don’t like to have to slow down and/or get annoyed by a nat.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:57 amMy money’s on Bartlebee.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:00 am#365
That’s if he shows. I am giving him the same chance I gave a boy name Ryan Neat, who use to post here, a while back.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:02 am#258
Damn, you must be friends with Lora.
Comment by Tracy
I just noticed this one, and #258 is now referring to your own post, Tracy-troll. I assume you directed it at someone else, but now you’re damning yourself.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:04 amBTW, I don’t think I know anyone posting here personally. If someone else took you to task for poor spelling or grammar, that’s because many of us here are better educated than you and can easily recognize such errors. If you can’t take the heat like a grown-up, then don’t post here, little boy.
If it was so “easy†to pull off as you ignorantly claim then why couldn’t Clinton figure the plot out during the two years in which it was being trained for?
BTW you could’t blow up a mail box without getting caught.
Comment by Tracy
Because it didn’t take two years to train for, you idiot. As soon as Bush had stolen the government, the terrorists knew that they had a clear run, and that the baby Bush would ignore any advice from the Clinton administration on terrorism, because Clinton had actually gotten his WTC bombers, making the sociopath Bush very jealous. That plot was put into motion on inauguration day, when the enemy was sure there would be a huge letdown in security. Republicans have always failed the USA in matters of security and defense; always.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:04 amNo I like to debate with others here, but you aren’t one of them because I don’t like to have to slow down and/or get annoyed by a nat(SIC).
Comment by Tracy —
Which is why you often address me, I suppose, and once even pleaded with me to respond to one of your posts on another thread a few months back, eh? BTW, what’s a “nat?”
July 5th, 2007 at 1:06 amIt meant gnat, but has no learning.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:07 am#366
Oh whatever! He or she was just pointing out irrelevant crap like you did and STILL do. Yes…at nat is a good…I will stick with that one.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:09 amMy money’s on Bartlebee.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Jane,
July 5th, 2007 at 1:13 amI’m a bit late on this thread, but I would like to second Bartlebee’s comment that you are so much more attractive than the rightwing blondes and faux blondes like Ann-thrax Coulter, Melanie Morgan, etc. and brunettes like Mary Matalin, for that matter You may never have been model or actress material, but you look like a warm and real human being, which is more than I can say for the over-made spewers of hatred and koolaid talking points.
#367
“Because it didn’t take two years to train for, you idiot.”
Go and actually read my link I post in #354 and you won’t sound so dumb next time.
Bush has to clean up the mess the Clinton made with the USS Cole bombers. Bush had them taken out with a Hellfire missle.
BTW you haven’t answered the question why Clinton wasn’t even slightly aware of the 9/11 plot for two years.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:14 amYes…at nat is a good…I will stick with that one.
Comment by Tracy
Yes, you will stick with your usual illiterate writing because you don’t know any better and don’t want to learn, either.
Ps. ronjazz,
July 5th, 2007 at 1:16 amI knew he/she meant “gnat” but was just deliberately getting at his (pet) goat.
#374
No, I bet you wouldn’t respond. Sorry it’s gnat. Getting very late.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:17 am#373
Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!! I would refer to you as fly but that would be too nice.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:20 amComment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 1:13 am
Thank you, Lora, that’s very sweet of you! Goodnight, it’s late here in NY!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:20 am#379
Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!! I would refer to you as fly but that would be too nice.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:21 amComment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 1:13 am
I’m lucky she picked me! :)
July 5th, 2007 at 1:22 amIn #374 Tracy-troll is talking to itself again. Must be getting delusional. Well, I suppose that should be obvious from its usual “but Clinton..” defense of Dumbya Bush or blaming the long-dead LBJ for turning Clinton’s budget surplus into a record deficit.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:23 am#385
Clinton didn’t create the surplus little girl. BTW #374 is YOUR post.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:29 amComment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 1:23 am
Yeah, if someone isn’t going to take the time to identify more clearly at whom his is spewing, it kind of makes it pointless to read any of his posts.
Good night, Lora.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:29 amThat’s what I mean, Lora. His post addressed to number #385 appeared as #380 on mine.
Tracy, please copy the name and date stamp of the posts to which you are referring. Otherwise it’s difficult to take what you say (at times to yurself, it appears to us) seriously. I’m not trying to be argumentative here, just helpful.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:32 am#382
Really? I thought I was just getting tired. Maybe those squirrels at TP are jacking with the tread. I will take it under advisement and will consider it.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:36 amClinton didn’t create the surplus little girl. BTW #374 is YOUR post.
Comment by Tracy —
No, little boy, #374 is your post. Since you keep on saying “it’s late, maybe you shouldn’t stay up past your bedtime, little lad.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:39 amOn topic, I hated Nixon, and two of my relatives were even on his enemies list. But I must grudgingly admit that he did do a few good things in respect to the environment and also in making moves to restore diplomatic relations with China. King George the Idiot has even been trying to destroy the environmental protections set by Nixon; and since I spend a lot of time overseas, I can sense up close how he has been ruining the image of the US even in many friendly nations. I wouldn’t doubt that he ultimately beats Tricky Dicky for the lowest rating.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:46 am#384
Now, I know TP is jacking with the thread. Even Wayne agrees with me. Any response about your false claim that Clinton created the surplus?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:52 amAny response about your false claim that Clinton created the surplus?
Comment by Tracy
Why don’t you prove to me first that Clinton didn’t create it, troll-boy? And, BTW, I may no longer respond to your addressing me as “little girl.” I don’t need condescension from someone who definitely has the language skills of a little boy.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:55 amPs. Tracy-troll,
July 5th, 2007 at 2:02 amBefore you go posting links to a bunch of rightwing websites, let me note that I have already read some articles by Republicans claiming that Bush inherited a recession, blah, blah…. Whether Clinton created the budget surplus or not, there was one when George W. Bush took office in January 2001, which he managed not only to squander but turn into a record deficit in record time.
One of these days, Japan, Korea and China will be asking the US to repay all those IOUs. Japan and Korea might be nice about it, but I don’t think it will be so pretty when China wants its money back.
#387
Congress controls the purse, not the president.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:02 am#388
“Whether Clinton created the budget surplus or not…”
I thought you said Clinton did create it.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:06 amTracy troll,
July 5th, 2007 at 2:16 am“Clinton’s budget surplus” doesn’t specifically mean that “Clinton created the surplus,” but that it was a surplus by the time his presidency ended. Yes, Congress controls the purse, but the president does work with its members on the budget. Sorry: I know it’s so painful for you to accept that anything good happened under Clinton.
BTW, if you keep on blaming 9/11 on Clinton, though it happened eight months into George W. Bush’s presidency, then I assume you will put the blame on Bush 41 for the first World Trade Center bombing, which occurred even earlier into Clinton’s term of office.
#391
“I know it’s so painful for you to accept that anything good happened under Clinton.”
No, I am glad he finally accepted Newt’s balanced budget amendment. Good for him.
“BTW, if you keep on blaming 9/11 on Clinton…”
I blame both Clinton AND Bush. I have said this multiple times, though you keep forgetting.
“…then I assume you will put the blame on Bush 41 for the first World Trade Center bombing”
Yes, I blame Bush 41 and Clinton. For Kenya, the Kobar Towers, and the USS Cole…squarely on Clinton.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:02 amThe ignorant, lying, dishonest, dissembling Troll Tracy has again tried to turn this thread away from the actual TOPIC. Tried and FAILED.
The topic of this thread is a poll that shows that the current corrupt, criminal president’s unfavorable rating in a new poll is nearly the SAME as the other criminal president, Nixon.
ANYTHING Tracy Troll says that does not treat with the topic of the thread is OFF TOPIC.
It is time for several of us to bring Tracy’s deliberate attempt to keep this thread off track to TP’s attention.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:08 amI blame both Clinton AND Bush. I have said this multiple times, though you keep forgetting.
Comment by Tracy
You assume that I read all of your posts and am in a position to forget. I don’t and am not.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:23 amWith the Libby commutation, Dick Cheney’s dog will probably go to the top spot.
July 5th, 2007 at 9:20 am#394
That’s your problem.
July 5th, 2007 at 9:50 amI make a distinction between the two administrations and find Bush worse. I’m of an age that I was an adult American citizen during both and think Bush has more broadly sought to act in ways that are harmful to our nation.
Bush has many members of his administration that were in the fray during the Nixon years and they’ve learned their lessons from those years well. They have not however, modified in any way their extremist political views.
This is one of the reasons the things that have occurred are such an affront to many people. The distinction between legal and not legal and what can be proved (or not) is a guiding principle for this administration. The idea of what some may consider as ethical conduct is not a consideration. The only thing necessary is to finely and accurately gauge what they can get away with. As we can readily see they have done all manner of things to meeting their extremist goals and done so very skillfully. Consistently and unabashedly arguing preposterous notions of law and legaility has become legend for this administration. And they have demonstrated they will go to any lengths to achieve their goals no matter how apparently abusive their exercise of power may be. As long as it is even marginally legally defensible, they’ll do it. And you can forget about customary procedure and anything else that may be defined as a departmental procedural guideline. If it doesn’t aid the goal being sought it will be ignored. Strictly centralized power is behind achieving most of this. Along with a blind and seriously distorted perception that they are right.
I am quite convinced the overall long term harm to the nation is more pronounced under Bush 43 than Nixon. I don’t think, comparatively, that it is even very close. Measure the result. Nixon had to resign for trying to do many of the very things Bush (so far) has actually achieved.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:10 amI should also note the significant contribution of a similarly minded Republican congressional membership. We are talking old guard Republicans that remain from the Nixon years. Tactically, Bush has lost almost no power to the Democrats because of this. The WH maintains the same predisposition to the use (abuse) of power it has claimed all along. They have not modified that view in the least. With the cover of congressional republicans they’ll continue this way until Jan 2009. And it may not change then unless the congressional makeup changes as well.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:29 am#394
That’s your problem.
Comment by Tracy
No, it’s not. It’s absolutely no problem to me that I don’t read all of your posts. If there is any problem, it’s one of your inflated ego to think that everyone would take the time to read all the blather you post.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:35 amI’ll be off for some hours, so don’t expect any immediate answers from me. if at all.
Bush, Nixon are most unpopular presidents ever. This tells me that he is doing the right thing , if liberals are fuming it is good .
July 5th, 2007 at 10:43 am#
Still, the Democrat congress is lower with only a 14% approval rating.
Comment by Jessie Saxton — July 4, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
#
It’s the “Republican drag-down effect.â€
Comment by Perry Logan — July 4, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
Always a Liberal , Always an Excuse : )
July 5th, 2007 at 10:44 amUltimately, the strategic flaw in this may be revealed if voters finally realize that the idea of their representation has been thoroughly nullified by republican policies and goals. That means entrenched congressional power would have to be overturned in 2008. That means, in turn, voters would need to get a lot smarter. Smart enough to gain a grasp on how they are being played. What is the likelihood of that?
July 5th, 2007 at 10:46 amTo fake-FDR,
July 5th, 2007 at 10:49 amI hate to inform you, but when the poll numbers are that low, it’s not just the liberals who are fuming. But that’s okay because I love being the lowest rated VP ever, as long as my Halliburton buddies and I have a great symbiotic relationship in ripping off the American public.
BTW, you really need to learn about English punctuation–ie. where to use, commas and periods, for example, or else you will make us look as illiterate as my pawn George Jr.
Ronald Reagan and Master Satan You are of child like mind and therefore unable to comprehend what true evil is , or just another Liberal Idiot . Which is it ?
July 5th, 2007 at 10:51 amDick Cheney
July 5th, 2007 at 10:53 amUnlike Bill Clinton , Real Leaders do not pay homage or listen to Polls , its really hard to look up to someone who always has his ear to the ground . Glad I could clear that up .
Dick Cheney listen dickweed , I went to one of the best Liberal run Government schools in this fine country . if you do not like my grammer you know what you can do .
July 5th, 2007 at 10:56 amDick Cheney (comma needed) listen dickweed , I went to one of the best Liberal(hyphen needed) run Government schools in this fine country . if(capital letter to start sentence) you do not like my grammer(SIC)(comma needed) you know what you can do .
Comment by FDR —
The real FDR went to private schools, and you must have flunked the liberal-run government schools you attended, troll-boy. I myself attended public schools, troll-boy, and somehow I learned to spell, punctuate and write grammatically correct sentences.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:02 amAre you David, Tracy, or michael, poor dumbass troll?
#405
Oh, you have said that before….zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:03 amPs. Fake FDR,
July 5th, 2007 at 11:16 amSorry: I really shouldn’t have been so harsh on you. After all, you are one of the wonderful Kool-Aid drinkers who voted for George Jr. and me. So before I go off to an important Halliburton board–oops, I mean, Cabinet–meeting, let me offer my sincere apology to you. That’s to say, I’m sorry our Leave No Child Behind program came in too late to help you. Really.
Washington was careful to limit his executive power. People at the time were used to a “king” and he knew this and every time powers were offered to him as the executive, he frequently turned them down because he knew that one man with too much power, no matter how good the intentions, was a BAD thing for the young nation. Amazing visionary. Complete opposite of the current “executive privelege” conservative mindset.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:10 pmOf course, Bush is the head (pinhead) of the most corrupt administration in history. There has never been such lying, secrecy, warmongering, war profiteering, slaughter, thievery, election fraud, and pure corruption.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:50 pmPardon my Freudian slip department. Post #2 refers to “Nixon and GWB.” In my haste I translated “GWB” to “George Wilkes Booth.” I don’t know what it means, I’m just confessing. I suppose the FBI will be at my door pretty soon.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:42 pmGeneral Question: How much do you think a troll gets paid to disrupt a free exchange of ideas with ignorant and inflammatory diatribe? What experience does one need on one’s resume to land a job like this? (And more importantly, signs their paycheck?)
July 5th, 2007 at 2:12 pmCorrection: (And more importantly, who signs their paycheck?)
July 5th, 2007 at 2:14 pm405
Oh, you have said that before….zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Comment by Tracy — July 5, 2007 @ 11:03 am
Tracy-troll,
July 5th, 2007 at 5:11 pmYou don’t learn very well, do you? You were already told by me and quite kindly by Wayne Schneider that your use of numbers only to address other posters doesn’t work, because the numbers change. You also might have noticed the same thing in all the time (well over a year) you’ve been posting on TP> As it is now, you’ve addessed a number that doesn’t even appear yet on this thread.
Comment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Do you have any idea why they are changing? Is TP intentionally trying to screw with posters here.
July 5th, 2007 at 5:19 pmComment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
As long as you and I have dragged yet another BS conversation on does it really matter that I don’t put the date/time stamp in my post? If it will get you to be quite about something that is irrelevant, as far as this conversation is concerned at least, I will…..just for you Lora.
July 5th, 2007 at 5:24 pmTracy-troll,
July 5th, 2007 at 5:30 pmI haven’t taken the time to look at what has been cut out here, but sometimes the TP administrators delete some of the more vulgar and/or threatening posts. If you are really curious about it, why don’t you ask TP yourself?
Now you are learning! i.e. no date/time stamp in your last post.
Comment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
July 5th, 2007 at 5:50 pmComment by Tracy — July 5, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
But I addressed you by name–not by a number likely to change–which should be enough in this case. BTW, Wayne S. suggested the date and timeline; I only suggested at least the specific name being addressed.
July 5th, 2007 at 6:07 pmPs. The person using Dick Cheney’s name is a relative currently staying with us. I forgot to change the name for #386.
July 5th, 2007 at 6:11 pm#386
Comment by Dick Cheney — July 5, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
“I only suggested at least the specific name being addressed.”
Well that doesn’t do a bit of good if you don’t have the date/time stamp. Take Wayne’s advise he knows what he is talking about especially with TP’s inability keep their hands off of the posts.
#387
Comment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Oh, now you have a team to work this blog. Good to see that you sent in the reinforcements.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:21 pmOh, now you have a team to work this blog. Good to see that you sent in the reinforcements.
Comment by Tracy
I don’t force anyone to do anything, dearie. If a cousin or other relative wants to do something, I won’t try to stop him/her unless the act is illegal.
July 5th, 2007 at 9:36 pmDo you have any idea why they are changing? Is TP intentionally trying to screw with posters here.
Comment by Tracy — July 5, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
I tried to tell you clowns to stop using the post number and post the comment, but you all knew better.
TP regualry goes through and deletes comments for vulgarity and other stuff, which means the post counts are going to constantly change.
DUH.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:51 pmIf you want people to have a clue of what you’re referring to, post the comment, and not the number, or no ones gonna have a clue of what your talking about.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:53 pmHaving run out of non-sequitur “arguments” (actually mere distractions), ikkle Tracykins is resorting to complaining about how the board works.
Nixon – Brain – Blackened, shrivelled remains of a soul = Bush
The degree of disapproval from their employers is the same on both sides of the equation, however. That’s the matter at hand.
Time for a job review. Now.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:11 am#389
Comment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
Good at grammar….lousy at figures of speech.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:49 am