Was Rove involved in commutation discussions?
Was Rove involved in commutation discussions?
According to the New York Times, Republican sources say that Karl Rove did not have an “extensive” role in the commutation deliberations “because his participation would have been awkward“:
Karl Rove, the chief White House strategist and one of Mr. Bush’s closest and longest-serving aides, had been implicated in the leak investigation, and it was unclear how extensive a role he played in the deliberations.
The special prosecutor in the case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, ultimately decided not to pursue charges against Mr. Rove. Some Republicans said they believed that Mr. Rove steered clear of the pardon discussions, perhaps because his participation would have been awkward.
“I talk to Karl a lot, and I just never got any sense that he was involved in that at all,” said Vin Weber, a Republican former congressman who said he believed that Mr. Libby should be pardoned.
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July 4th, 2007 at 9:35 pmClinton… he did it too.
July 4th, 2007 at 9:38 pmAnd we know Republicans are so inquisitive when it comes to finding out the truth and, of course, no Republican has ever lied … well, except, for good ole Scooter, who you know, didn’t mean it.
July 4th, 2007 at 9:42 pmClinton… he did it too.
Comment by Mr. President
It’s all a big effing joke to you isn’t it. Some of us care about this country and the constitution. You are despicable.
July 4th, 2007 at 9:43 pmOne of the stupidest questions ever asked!…What deliberations?
July 4th, 2007 at 9:46 pmClinton… he did it too.
Comment by Mr. President
What? Ruined the republican party? If you haven’t noticed, repubs are lagging in donations – even from big business…
July 4th, 2007 at 9:48 pmWas Rove involved in commutation discussions? – - Does the Pope wear little red shoes?
July 4th, 2007 at 9:53 pm#2 Mr. P
July 4th, 2007 at 9:57 pmDon’t you get weary of making a fool of yourself every day?
If you believe that Clinton’s pardons were wrong, then you are in the school of two wrongs make a right.
IOKIYAR
Didn’t your mother teach you anything?
Could this just possibly be a nonstory?
July 4th, 2007 at 10:09 pmI have a feeling that if Rove had been involved in this decision, it would have been better timed — as in Scooter does a couple months in the pokey, then gets commuted, and no one notices or cares but us.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:15 pmIt’s all a big effing joke to you isn’t it. Some of us care about this country and the constitution. You are despicable.
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
its in the constitution that the president can pardon and commute a sentence. heres Clinton’s pardons.
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
July 4th, 2007 at 10:17 pm“The process was delicate. Karl Rove, the chief White House strategist and one of Mr. Bush’s closest and longest-serving aides, had been implicated in the leak investigation, and it was unclear how extensive a role he played in the deliberations.
The special prosecutor in the case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, ultimately decided not to pursue charges against Mr. Rove. Some Republicans said they believed that Mr. Rove steered clear of the pardon discussions, perhaps because his participation would have been awkward.
“I talk to Karl a lot, and I just never got any sense that he was involved in that at all,†said Vin Weber, a Republican former congressman who said he believed that Mr. Libby should be pardoned”
Are we going to believe Rove wasn’t invoved in the deliberations because they say so and it wouldn’t be politically expedient to admit he was involve. Who can believe one thing these liars say?
July 4th, 2007 at 10:19 pmHW Bush pulled a Scooter too. He told investigators he was “out of the loop” on Iran/Contra and his daily journal proved he lied. He also later pardoned those caught up in Iran/Contra.
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Time once again to clean the WH!
July 4th, 2007 at 10:19 pmits in the constitution that the president can pardon and commute a sentence. heres Clinton’s pardons.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
Comment by drock
But we’re not talking about Clinton here ARE WE? Well you probably are in an attempt to cover up for corruption of YOUR leaders.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:20 pmMy own theory is that as soon as Libby lost the appeal that would have kept him out of prison, Cheny went into Bush and told him, “If Scooter Libby goes to jail, I will see to it that Karl Rove goes, too.” And Bush agreed.
Of course, this is just a theory. The evidence proving me right or wrong is locked up in a man-sized safe in Dick Cheney’s office. (That or in a hermetically-sealed jar on Funk and Wagnall’s porch, since noon today.)
July 4th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Time once again to clean the WH!
Comment by Fools on the Hill
And because Daddy got away with that much corruption, Junior just knew he could get away with more. Unless Impeachment is back on the table this corrupt cabal will not stop grabbing power.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:22 pm“I talk to Karl a lot, and I just never got any sense that he was involved in that at all,†said Vin Weber, a Republican former congressman who said he believed that Mr. Libby should be pardoned.
Vin Weber would have been more truthful if he had stopped speaking after the word “sense”.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:25 pm“If you haven’t noticed, repubs are lagging in donations”
That’s because the media is giving 95% of the coverage to the Democrats.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:28 pmIn all likelihood, Rove was involved, but ultimately that decider guy made the final decision. You know, the guy who is looking for some kind of legacy to leave behind, besides abject failure. He has that completely covered.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:29 pmRove probably gave some input. So what? He’s an advisor.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:29 pmIn all likelihood, Rove was involved, but ultimately that decider guy made the final decision. You know, the guy who is looking for some kind of legacy to leave behind, besides abject failure. He has that completely covered.
Comment by Rocket
If Rove was involved though isn’t that just another layer of conspiracy because if Scooter had flipped wouldn’t Rove in all likelihood been implicated. And isn’t that why they’re all volunteering that KKKarl was involved even before the question is asked. Methinks the traitors doth protest too much.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:31 pm“Cheny went into Bush and told him, “If Scooter Libby goes to jail, I will see to it that Karl Rove goes, too.†And Bush agreed.”
Cheney and Bush are friends. Is this the way you would talk to one of your friends? Of course not. Your comment is absurd.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:32 pm“But we’re not talking about Clinton here ARE WE?”
Yes we are. Clinton granted some very controversial pardons. He actually sold the process to the highest bidder. Of course this is going to be discussed.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:33 pmRove probably gave some input. So what? He’s an advisor.
Comment by The Captain
Advisor, no. Co-conspirator definitely.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:33 pmIs there any particular reason we should believe anything that Republicans have to say about this affair? Obviously not. If they claim that Rove wasn’t involved, you can pretty much be assured that he was.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:34 pm“Advisor, no. Co-conspirator definitely.”
Rove is an advisor to the president, so obviously he is going to give his political input, as he should. That’s what he’s getting paid for.
He was not a co conspirator.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:35 pmBut we’re not talking about Clinton here ARE WE?â€
Yes we are. Clinton granted some very controversial pardons. He actually sold the process to the highest bidder. Of course this is going to be discussed.
Comment by The Captain
Couldn’t you trolls try to read the title of the thread and stick to if for two minutes. And your Republicans in congress persecuted Clinton for a bl*w job do you think they would not have come after him for a serious infraction like this, please.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:36 pmYes we are. Clinton granted some very controversial pardons. He actually sold the process to the highest bidder. Of course this is going to be discussed.
Comment by The Captain
You may be talking about Clinton, but we’re not. Keep talking to yourself. I doubt if anyone else will listen, Kapt. Krunch..
July 4th, 2007 at 10:38 pmYes we are. Clinton granted some very controversial pardons. He actually sold the process to the highest bidder. Of course this is going to be discussed.
Comment by The Captain
You want to talk about Clinton, how about Bush Sr. pardoning a major terrorist, still walking free, and his Iran/Contra cohorts. It’s because he got away with that we are enduring the corruption today. Maybe we should reopen the treachery of Sr. Start there and work our way through Clinton and Jr. Whatever works to stop the destruction of this country.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:38 pm“And your Republicans in congress persecuted Clinton for a bl*w job”
Bill Clinton recieved a blow job outside of his marriage from Jennifer Flowers. Did the GOP impeach him for that? No.
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath and obstructing justice.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:39 pmCheney and Bush are friends. Is this the way you would talk to one of your friends? Of course not. Your comment is absurd.
Comment by The Captain — July 4, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
Actually, I believe that is exactly how Dick Cheney talks to George Bush. Friends? Not exactly.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:40 pmHe was not a co conspirator.
Comment by The Captain
That was conspiracy is, working together to commit a criminal act. Outing a covert CIA agent and lying and denying is said criminal act. And while Limbaugh and O’Reilly say Plame was not cover, that is a bald faced lie.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:40 pm“You may be talking about Clinton, but we’re not.”
I’m willing to talk about all of it. Clinton granted a pardon to Marc Rich, a pedophile and to FALN terrorists. If you want to debate abuse of the pardon system, it’s pretty hard to avoid Clinton’s pardons for donations.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:41 pmActually, I believe that is exactly how Dick Cheney talks to George Bush. Friends? Not exactly.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Cap’n Crunch thinks Cheney has friends. Does he think Hitler had friends too?
July 4th, 2007 at 10:42 pm“That was conspiracy is, working together to commit a criminal act. Outing a covert CIA agent and lying and denying is said criminal act.”
Rove wasn’t charged with anything.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:43 pmIf you want to debate abuse of the pardon system, it’s pretty hard to avoid Clinton’s pardons for donations.
Comment by The Captain
yes, but he didn’t pardon a man who helped out an active CIA agent. that s/b treason!
July 4th, 2007 at 10:44 pmI’m willing to talk about all of it. Clinton granted a pardon to Marc Rich, a pedophile and to FALN terrorists. If you want to debate abuse of the pardon system, it’s pretty hard to avoid Clinton’s pardons for donations.
Comment by The Captain — July 4, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Okay. If Clinton followed the proper procedures (while maintaining the right to do it anyway even if it was advised against), then, no, I don’t have a problem with its legality. But if he bypassed the system set in place by the Congress, then, yes, I do have just as much of a problem with it as I do with Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence.
Now, do you have any proof that Clinton bypassed the legal process in anyway to issue those pardons of which you spoke?
July 4th, 2007 at 10:46 pmRove wasn’t charged with anything.
Comment by The Captain
No one mentioned Rove in there. Me thinks thou dost protest too much!
Besides, who the F*#k cares 7 years later what Bill Clinton did? W/ the attention span the Faux News audience has, that’s like, 3 decades ago.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:46 pmI’m willing to talk about all of it. Clinton granted a pardon to Marc Rich, a pedophile and to FALN terrorists. If you want to debate abuse of the pardon system, it’s pretty hard to avoid Clinton’s pardons for donations.
Comment by The Captain
You think Marc Rich is a pedophile? And I’m sure March Rich has much closer ties to the Bush family than the Clintons. Marc Rich was indicted for tax evasion and making illegal oil deals with Iran. Gee, who else was making illegal deals with Iran during the hostage crisis, that would be Bush Sr. wouldn’t it.
And the FALN members had never injured anybody and had already served about 20 years each. And that was longer than current sentencing guidelines. But you just keep believing what you hear on Fox News, it makes you look like a real genius.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:47 pm“yes, but he didn’t pardon a man who helped out an active CIA agent. that s/b treason!”
Bush didn’t “pardon” Libby either.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:48 pmRove wasn’t charged with anything.
Comment by The Captain
Riiiight… it’s so much more effective to just STEAL the money, like the $9 BILLION, that’s BILLION, as in BILLION, that went missing in Iraq.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:48 pm“That was conspiracy is, working together to commit a criminal act. Outing a covert CIA agent and lying and denying is said criminal act.â€
Rove wasn’t charged with anything.
Comment by The Captain — July 4, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
Do you remember hearing Fitzgerald talk about the “sand in the umpire’s eyes” analogy? Just because Rove was’t charged with anything, does not automatically mean that the investigation was thorough and complete and that no evidence of wrong-doing on his part emerged. At best, it means that because Libby obstructed the investigation, the prosecutor was unable to determine if any laws were broken by Rove.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:49 pm“You think Marc Rich is a pedophile?”
Not to my knowledge.
Clinton pardoned Mel Reynolds who is a pedphile.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:50 pmGee, who else was making illegal deals with Iran during the hostage crisis, that would be Bush Sr. wouldn’t it.
Comment by shane
And don’t forget BiggusDickus in there too. While he was head of Cehneyb – excuse me, Halliburton, Halliburton did business w/ BOTH Iran and Iraq thru a French subsidiary.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI would talk about Clinton’s 60% approval rating but it’s off topic…
July 4th, 2007 at 10:52 pmRove wasn’t charged with anything.
Comment by The Captain
Rove and Cheney and Bush probably weren’t charged because Sooter obstructed justice and commited perjury so he could cover their asses. That’s what obstruction of justice means. You people are like lambs to slaughter. Unfortunately it is the country that suffers more than you.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:52 pmKarl Rove has had his dirty fingers on every major scandal that has hit this White House. He was involved in the 2000 election vote fraud, he was also involved in outing covert CIA agent Valerie Plame, and he was also involved in the improper firings of 8 US attorneys. It would make sense for him to be involved in the deliberations of whether Libby’s sentence should have been commuted. Rove has never displayed any sense of integrity why would he do so now?
July 4th, 2007 at 10:53 pm“While he was head of Cehneyb – excuse me, Halliburton, Halliburton did business w/ BOTH Iran and Iraq thru a French subsidiary.”
Be careful.
The Clinton administration granted contracts to Halliburton.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:54 pmClinton was impeached for lying under oath and obstructing justice.
Comment by The Captain
Clinton once created a Christmas card list.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:54 pmThe Clinton administration granted contracts to Halliburton.
Comment by The Captain
Clinton once nicked himself shaving.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:56 pmBush didn’t “pardon†Libby either.
Comment by The Captain
Yet. Because with a full pardon Libby would more likely be forced to testify against his co-conspirators. Go look up what John Dean has to say about that, how calculated the commutation is.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:57 pmI guess everyone can understand why the band broke up.
July 4th, 2007 at 10:58 pmI guess everyone can understand why the band broke up.
Comment by Tenille
Um…..the Captain has a one-track mind, and it ain’t Tenille-tracked?
:D
July 4th, 2007 at 10:59 pmThere really should be registration here. ;)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:00 pmThe Clinton administration granted contracts to Halliburton.
Comment by The Captain
But Cheney was the CEO of Halliburton, the Clintons didn’t even hold stock in Halliburton, what is your effing point. Oh who really cares. It’s the 4th of July and I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more. Why don’t you neocon sycophants just get the hell out of here.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:00 pmUm…..the Captain has a one-track mind, and it ain’t Tenille-tracked?
:D
Comment by Zooey
I think Cap’n Crunch has been sitting in milk too long.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:01 pmOT, man arrested for following Obama with weapons in his car.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:02 pmits in the constitution that the president can pardon and commute a sentence.
comment by drock
drock
Is it in the constitution that treason is OK? To obstruct justice by lying? The bigger picture, and we all know it as you do, is the fact a covert agent was outed most likely by the top administration folks, stonewalling and lies were done to prevent this from coming out before the ‘04 election and to protect the real criminals that committed treason. Bush did get up in front of the world and PROMISED to bring to justice the real criminals. Isn’t it obvious to you bush eliminated jail time to keep Scouter quiet, to protect himself? Maybe what Bush did is legal, but very, very outrageous and that is what the subject should be around.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:03 pmI think Cap’n Crunch has been sitting in milk too long.
Comment by shane
Hey, he’s better than some the idiots we get around here! :)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:04 pmBe careful.
The Clinton administration granted contracts to Halliburton.
Comment by The Captain”It is extremely disturbing to hear media reports of possible violations of our anti-terrorism laws by prominent American companies through straw corporations established to evade U.S. law. What makes these charges extraordinary is the involvement of the Vice President, since Halliburton Products and Services began operations in Iran during the time that Vice President Cheney was CEO of Halliburton,” Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) wrote in a letter to her colleagues.
Heed your own words, Kapt Krunch…
July 4th, 2007 at 11:04 pmOT, man arrested for following Obama with weapons in his car.
Comment by shane
Where did you see that, Shane?
July 4th, 2007 at 11:04 pmThis Republican says Karl was not involved in the commutation proceedings. Are you kidding me? This entire situation is probably Rove’s doing. By commuting Scooters prison sentence Bush satisfies some of his base and keeps Libby quiet about Bush’s and Cheney’s involvement in the outing of a covert CIA agent. The plan will be complete when Bush pardons Libby before he leaves office. This is all about further obstruction of justice. And that is what Rove does best
July 4th, 2007 at 11:06 pmBut really BiggusDickus is really kind of flattering for Dickhead Cheney don’t you think?
Comment by shane
“Biggus Dickus” is actaully a gag name from a Monty Python film…
July 4th, 2007 at 11:06 pmWouldn’t any troll like to explain the pardoning of Caspar Weinberger and Ollie North?
July 4th, 2007 at 11:07 pmOr is it OKIYAR?
There really should be registration here. ;)
Comment by The Captain — July 4, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
Many of us have been advocating just that. ;)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:08 pmBush Sr did it too. 5 Iran Contras! Abrams etc..
July 4th, 2007 at 11:09 pmCaptain sir?
The crew would like to know why we are avoiding land, sir.
There are daily sightings of new islands, and your orders continue to change course away from them.
We are extremely low on fresh water, and food is in short supply as well.
Yes, I see sir.
I sympathize with your concern for being the first to reach the edge of the Earth, sir, and your legacy.
Yes, sir, some of the men do yearn for the home port sir,
July 4th, 2007 at 11:14 pmespecially in light of the fact that we have now sailed past it twice.
I was for being tough on crime before I was not for being tough on crime!
I was for smaller govenment before I was against smaller government!
I was not for using our troops for nation building – Now I am for using our troops for nation buidling!
I was for mission accomplished before I was against mission accomplished!
I was for freeing an oppressed people before I was not fo freeing an oppressed peopl!
I was for capturing Osama Bin Laden before I was against capturing Osama Bin Lande!
I was for a short war before I was against a short war.
I was against the Korean Model before I was for the Korean model!
July 4th, 2007 at 11:16 pmexplain the pardoning of Caspar Weinberger and Ollie North?
Or is it OKIYAR?
I was out of the loop before I was in the loop.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:18 pmFor the record, my brats were fantastic. And the Italian sparkling rosé was also surprisingly good. Just in case anyone was taking notes.
God bless America. God bless Wisconsin for those great brats, Oregon for the great beer the brats simmered in, and those Eye-talians who made some great wine.
God bless the posters at TP for giving a damn.
And the trolls? Well, the trolls are going to burn in Hell, so there’s nothing I can do for them.
B’bye trolls!
July 4th, 2007 at 11:23 pmRove wasn’t charged with anything.
Comment by The Captain — July 4, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
We were doing nicely there. Now, do you still maintain that the mere fact that Rovre wasn’t charged with anything does not prove he is innocent?
And, do you still maintain that it is “absurd” that Cheney would talk to Bush as I suggested given that “they are friends”, when the article I linked was the start of a series on how Cheney would deceive Bush in a number of ways to get his wishes?
Remember, there were reports (I have no link available, but you could find it just as easily as I) that Cheney was upset because he felt that Rove was being let off the hook while “his guy” was hanging in the wind (or some such metaphor). This suggests to me that Cheney, who does have the balls to do so, told Bush to give Libby that commutation (thus staving off the possibility of his having to testify.)
Now, please tell me why I’m wrong. I hope I am, but tell me why. Thank you.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:25 pmComment by gummitch — July 4, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
Rose` with bubbles? Nice…..
Happy 4th, gummitch, and thanks for giving a damn! :)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:26 pmFor the record, my brats were fantastic.
OK, my first thought was, “Oh, are your kids usually rambunctious?”
:)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:27 pmOK, my first thought was, “Oh, are your kids usually rambunctious?â€
:)
Comment by trueblue
I regularly contemplated grilled brats for dinner…… :D
July 4th, 2007 at 11:28 pmWhere did you see that, Shane?
Comment by Zooey
On the Chicago news, maybe because Obama’s our Senator. You’d think it would be on the CNN or MSNBC. After all Gore’s 24 year old son was on for speeding and having a small amount of marijuana. Right trolls.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:33 pmRose` with bubbles? Nice…..
Happy 4th, gummitch, and thanks for giving a damn! :)
Comment by Zooey
I’m a sucker for beverages that sparkle: fizzy water, beer, champagne, sparkling wine not legitimately called “champagne”. This was particularly good, and there’s a bottle of something from the Land of Frogs, a cremant, that may be even better, waiting on deck. For another day, of course.
In re: brats. My favorite Clinton moment was a press photo of him, while visiting Milwaukee, “helping” the staff at Usinger’s make sausages. For those who are unfortunate enough not to have been to Milwaukee, Usinger’s sausage essentially define the Midwest version. Been in the same location since 1860 or so, I think.
Mmmmmm, brats!
July 4th, 2007 at 11:34 pmBiggus Dickus†is actaully a gag name from a Monty Python film…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Oh, then definitely too flattering for Cheney. But then again, Pond Scum is too flattering for the vilest man on the planet.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:36 pm“Biggus Dickus†is actaully a gag name from a Monty Python film…
He was the Ceasers manservant, and the chief rival of Ceasers wife Incontinentia….
July 4th, 2007 at 11:37 pmOn the Chicago news, maybe because Obama’s our Senator. You’d think it would be on the CNN or MSNBC. After all Gore’s 24 year old son was on for speeding and having a small amount of marijuana. Right trolls.
Comment by shane
To be fair, he also had a bunch of prescription dope with him. It’s clear from his history that he has problems with dope. Oy gevalt, so what? Many of us do.
My first reaction was “Oh, my god, he has marijuana!” Uh, but . . . many of us do.
The 100 mph while high crap needs to stop. Other than that, eh. People should not drive cars, whether Bentley or Prius, while high. Kind of a no-brainer.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:39 pmBut then again, Pond Scum is too flattering for the vilest man on the planet.
Comment by shane — July 4, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
Then St. Louis Cardinals manager Whitey Hertzog once called us Mets fans “pond scum.” He hasn’t been welcome at Shea Stadium since.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:39 pm“Life of Brian?”
July 4th, 2007 at 11:39 pmI don’t remember…. ’scuse me while I go to Utoob and find out…..:)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:42 pmGummitch,
Never cared for the stuff. Just made me hack like a dweeb.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:42 pmBeing that these pigs always lie my assumption is that Rove was deeply involved in the deliberations and besides the enfant idiot is incapable of thinking of anything on his own – something to do with all the cocaine and alcohol that he’s consumed.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:42 pmComment by Raven
Obviously Raven, you and I are on the same wavelength.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:43 pmComment by Wayne A. Schneider
Mets kind of got knocked around by the Rockies (much like the Mariners last night in KC). At least the Yankers lost and the Red Sox won (also the M’s), so happy Fourth.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:43 pmCorrect, all, it was Incontinentia Buttocks in the Life of Brian
July 4th, 2007 at 11:44 pmNever cared for the stuff. Just made me hack like a dweeb.
Comment by trueblue
Which stuff?
July 4th, 2007 at 11:44 pmAnd I was thinking; trolls, simmered in beer, what a waste of beer, couldn’t we just simmer them in raw sewage?
Comment by shane
To be totally honest, I’ve never even had a ‘brat’. Don’t like sausages. Too fatty.
(I pick the fat off of bacon and from slices of pepperoni. Great way to gross out friends and potential mates.)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:45 pmoops, sorry, gummitch.
Marijuana.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:46 pmI have, from the beginning, believed that Patrick Fitzgerald was in on the fix. If he wasn’t, why didn’t he charge Karl Rove with treason? Rove admitted he leaked Valerie Plame’s name to reporters and Fitzgerald had proof that he knew Valerie Plame was covert because he also leaked the name of her cover company, Brewster Jennings. If she was not covert, why did she need a cover company.
Unless Fitzgerald comes out now and charges someone for the crime that was committed, I will go to my grave believing that he was in on the fix from the start. I wonder what his reward is going to be.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:47 pmIt would appear the Good Captain had to report back to his cereal box.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:50 pmoops, sorry, gummitch.
Marijuana.
Comment by trueblue
I thought you meant the sparkling wine!! :D
July 4th, 2007 at 11:51 pm(I pick the fat off of bacon and from slices of pepperoni. Great way to gross out friends and potential mates.)
Comment by trueblue
Got to sort them out somehow…
July 4th, 2007 at 11:51 pmKatie,
That would break my heart.
He was looking like Elliot Ness to a lot of us.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:51 pmI thought you meant the sparkling wine!! :D
Comment by Zooey
Don’t like that, either.
:(
PS – I didn’t know you were here. Disregard my last email.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:53 pmHe was looking like Elliot Ness to a lot of us.
Comment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Out of curiosity, which one? The Kevin Costner one or the Robert Stack (think Airplane!) one? (I’ve got a feeling I can guess the answer to this one.) :)
July 4th, 2007 at 11:54 pm“Life of Brian?â€
Comment by trueblue
Yep…
“Why are you laughing, Centurion?”
“It’s a gag name, your Lordship, kind of like Biggus Dickus or Naughtious Maximus…”
“I have a friend in Rome named Biggus Dickus.”
July 4th, 2007 at 11:55 pm“If you haven’t noticed, repubs are lagging in donationsâ€
That’s because the media is giving 95% of the coverage to the Democrats.
Comment by The Captain”
You only dream that that is the problem. I don’t know where you live but where I live (Oregon), the Democrats are rarely covered either in the newspapers (mostly corporate conglomerate owned) or the TV Stations (again, mostly corporate conglomerate owned).
But, it really doesn’t matter that the MSM doesn’t give equal time to Democrats and Republics. The Republics are in such deep shit, the people hear about it anyway.
The reason why the Democrats are doing better in their fund raising is twofold. The first is that the individual Democrats are mad as hell that the Republics have stolen two elections and run this country into the gutter. The second reason, and this is the one that is providing the most money, is that a lot of corporate America sees which direction the wind is blowing and the don’t want to be stuck on the losing side in the next election.
Bye Bye corrupt Republics. Hopefully it won’t be too late to save this country.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:55 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity
It’s not really a pretty sight, though.
Miniblue’s dad used to say I’d make a great surgeon, the way I’d excise every bit of fat.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:55 pm:P
Wayne,
I meant the real Elliot,
………..but I guess I’ll take Kevin. He was far cuter then. And not so full of himself.
Wow. That was so shallow.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:57 pmTo be totally honest, I’ve never even had a ‘brat’. Don’t like sausages. Too fatty.
(I pick the fat off of bacon and from slices of pepperoni. Great way to gross out friends and potential mates.)
Comment by trueblue
Ah. God. Damn.
And you don’t like sparkling wine.
Or marijuana.
We have nothing to say to one another.
I mean, seriously: fat, dope, wine. What the hell else is there?
Probably don’t like bourbon, either.
Aaaaaaaaaaa! Seventh level of hell for you!!!!!!
July 4th, 2007 at 11:58 pmUnless Fitzgerald comes out now and charges someone for the crime that was committed, I will go to my grave believing that he was in on the fix from the start. I wonder what his reward is going to be.
Comment by Katie
No way, Katie, absolutely no way. He didn’t charge anyone with the crime, because the obstruction made it impossible to get a conviction. No good prosecutor will wing it like that. Fitz is not a grandstander. I have a feeling he’s keeping the files open and watching…..
It’s better to wait until you have the evidence for conviction, than to charge someone just to look like you’re doing something.
If he charges Rove and he’s the wrong guy, Fitz just handed the right guy’s defense attorney a great big gun to blast holes in the case.
Just sayin’…..
July 4th, 2007 at 11:59 pmFederal prosecutors are notorious for not prosecuting cases they can’t win. They’re highly interested in keeping their percentages up. But that doesn’t mean the fix wasn’t in.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:00 amCaptain,
Reagan got rid of the “Fairness Doctrine”
That is the LAST time news was unbiased.
All media are now controlled by very few, very conservative, companies.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:00 amYou only dream that that is the problem. I don’t know where you live but where I live (Oregon),
Comment by Katie
Big state. Do you leave in the valley, or . . . ?
Me, Portland. Where it is currently too damn hot.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:00 amComment by trueblue — July 4, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Yeah, the real deal would certainly be the preferred one (assuming Hollywood didn’t take too many liberties with his image.) I’m aware that he quite good at his job. And I hope that we can get more like him watching how our government operates and stopping the criminal activity. From EVERY member of Congress who does it.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:00 amI wonder what his reward is going to be.
Comment by Katie — July 4, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
Simple, he and his family are allowed to live.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:01 amMiniblue’s dad used to say I’d make a great surgeon, the way I’d excise every bit of fat.
:P
Comment by trueblue
Hey life, and friendship, isn’t for the squeemish…
July 5th, 2007 at 12:01 amComment by Katie — July 4, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
Katie, I’m with trueblue, I’d be crushed. From everything I’ve heard about Fitzgerald, however, I cannot believe that he would put anything or anybody above the law. I believe that he realizes the importance of sticking to the exact rule of law in this case, because of the monumental importance of the case itself.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:02 amAaaaaaaaaaa! Seventh level of hell for you!!!!!!
Comment by gummitch
true must exist on a diet of warm water and Wonder bread.
Sheesh…..
July 5th, 2007 at 12:02 amProbably don’t like bourbon, either.
Aaaaaaaaaaa! Seventh level of hell for you!!!!!!
Comment by gummitch
Uh gummitch, she’s NOT a Republican. Doesn’t that count for anything?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:02 amComment by Zooey — July 4, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Katie, I believe Zooey is 100% correct.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:03 amgummitch,
I used to drink Rebel Yell and gingerale with one of those couple-friends back when I was with miniblue’s dad.
We got so silly on them.
See, I’m OK.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:03 amI mean, seriously: fat, dope, wine. What the hell else is there?
Probably don’t like bourbon, either.
Comment by gummitch
Now that’s a well-balanced diet. I really do think you got most of the major food groups, except maybe caffeine.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:04 amtrue must exist on a diet of warm water and Wonder bread.
Sheesh…..
Comment by Zooey
No cut that out!
One of ny favorite snacks is black olives and extra sharp cheddar cheese. It’s just the *visible* fat that grosses me out.
—Also, Wonder bread is full of crap—–
;)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:08 am“I mean, seriously: fat, dope, wine. What the hell else is there?”
Comment by gummitch — July 4, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
“Don’t drink, don’t smoke, what do you do?” :-D
Gummitch, I’m partly with you on this, but I’m like trueblue with the surgical removal of fat from meat. :-) Glad to hear that you enjoyed your brats!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:08 amHey life, and friendship, isn’t for the squeemish…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Know what?
That is actually very profound.
Thank you.
:)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:09 amOne of ny favorite snacks is black olives and extra sharp cheddar cheese. It’s just the *visible* fat that grosses me out.
—Also, Wonder bread is full of crap—–
;)
Comment by trueblue
Hmmm. By “black olives” do you mean Kalamata? The cheddar thing is good, but in general, how do you feel about stinky cheese?
We may be able to get you into Purgatory, but these responses are critical.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:10 amGummitch, I’m partly with you on this, but I’m like trueblue with the surgical removal of fat from meat. :-) Glad to hear that you enjoyed your brats!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
And, cough, do you trim the fat from a ribeye?
Remember, the Spanish Inquisition awaits your response.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:12 amOne of my favorite snacks is black olives and extra sharp cheddar cheese.
Comment by trueblue
Is that NY St cheddar (the good stuff), or Wisconsin, or Oregon? Inquiring minds need to know. And the beverage, what about the beverage?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:12 amThat is actually very profound.
Thank you.
:)
Comment by trueblue
Indeed, that is why I am here… that, and playing Whack-A-Trollâ„¢!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:13 am“He was far cuter then. And not so full of himself.
Wow. That was so shallow.”
Comment by trueblue
Hey, not all truths need to be deep!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:14 amAll media are now controlled by very few, very conservative, companies.
Comment by trueblue — July 5, 2007 @ 12:00 am
That’s right. And that’s the real problem, not the Fairness Doctrine. Sorry to have to use this word, but considering the technology advances since it was done away with, it seems a little “quaint” now. Would I have to offer a conservative “equal time” on my own blog? Those are the kind of “slippery slope” questions that would arise with any discussion of reinstating the Fairness Doctrine. (Not that I opposed the principles of it when it was first created.)
No, media consolidation is what’s stifling true public discussion of the issues that affect all of us, from all colors of the political spectrum. The airwaves belong to the people, and it’s time we take them back.
[ Gives me an idea for that blog, BTW. :) ]
July 5th, 2007 at 12:15 amI’m no vegan. No granola muncher.
I’m just really picky about visible fat. It grosses me out. (Reason# 83 why I don’t look in the mirror!)
Kalamata’s are too salty. Boring ol California.
Hey! Maybe this will save me…………………………
My secret sin is Slim Jims! (no way to find the fat in that mix!)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:16 amWe may be able to get you into Purgatory, but these responses are critical.
Comment by gummitch
I think you should “act” like a Republican and sneak trueblue the guidelines for getting into Purgatory.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:17 amHey, not all truths need to be deep!
Comment by Raven
Nor do all falsehoods need to be shallow…
(Hmmm, maybe it’s time for some of that bourbon… I’m gettin’ a little to pretentious here…)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:18 amMy secret sin is Slim Jims! (no way to find the fat in that mix!)
Comment by trueblue
Whoa… Slim Jims??? A fiesta of preservatives in every bite!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:19 amAnd, cough, do you trim the fat from a ribeye?
Remember, the Spanish Inquisition awaits your response.
Comment by gummitch
In all fairness, my husband trims all the fat plus some meat next to it and takes all the skin off of chicken but is still fabulous.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:19 am(Hmmm, maybe it’s time for some of that bourbon… I’m gettin’ a little to pretentious here…)
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 5, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Miss Piggy: Pretentious? Moi?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:19 am“And, cough, do you trim the fat from a ribeye?
Remember, the Spanish Inquisition awaits your response.”
Comment by gummitch — July 5, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Damn, I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition! Do you at least have a comfy chair to torture me with? (Skip the dishrack!)
Oh, I know that I’m going to give a wrong answer, but…yes, yes, I do trim the fat from a ribeye. Which hell am I going to?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:21 amMmmmmm, kalamata olives…..
Jeebus, true — Slim Jims? You’re killing me…..and yourself. :D
July 5th, 2007 at 12:21 amCaptain? I’m waiting patiently and politely.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:21 amOne of my favorite snacks is black olives and extra sharp cheddar cheese.
Comment by trueblue
Is that NY St cheddar (the good stuff), or Wisconsin, or Oregon? Inquiring minds need to know. And the beverage, what about the beverage?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Help – I’m in the TP Inquisition! :P
Being from the NE, I love NY extra sharp, but when I went cross country there were some decent cheeses in Wisc. (wax-wrapped) and Tillamook, Or cheese was good. Not the best.
Whew – - Did I pass?
Would it help to tell you I have a Bud Ice in front of me right now?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:21 amCan I please come out of Hell?
Kalamata’s are too salty. Boring ol California.
Hey! Maybe this will save me…………………………
My secret sin is Slim Jims! (no way to find the fat in that mix!)
Comment by trueblue
You’re doomed. Kalamatas too salty?
I think you need to spend some time in limbo while you re-examine these crimes.
Pfah!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:22 amI’m no vegan. No granola muncher.
Comment by trueblue
Not that there’s anything wrong with being a vegan or granola muncher.
There, I didn’t want to hear any troll give us the not very progressive crap.
It’s the 4th of July and I am PISSED! First thing this morning I see Bush being glib with the troops and I’m mad as hell …
July 5th, 2007 at 12:23 amAll your base are belong to us!
-President Cheney and his organ grinding monkey name George W. Bush
July 5th, 2007 at 12:24 amKatie, I believe Zooey is 100% correct.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Thanks, Wayne. I was worried I was going to get crucified, but that’s the way I think it is. :)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:25 amHow can you NOT trim the fat off a rib-eye?
It’s FAT! Ick! How do you chew that up? A big white rubbery blob is all it is. Eewww.
Zooey, I don’t hoard them and gorge on them, it’s a guilty pleasure. I like spicy stuff.
Republic of Stupidity,
Pretentious? – Never.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:27 am;)
The Captain is indisposed, and has retired to his cabin.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:27 amHe became dismayed at the realization we have been sailing around a sphere, and that their is no edge of the world.
He called for a cask of rum, his pipe, and the cabin boy.
We do not expect him to appear for some time.
You’re doomed. Kalamatas too salty?
I think you need to spend some time in limbo while you re-examine these crimes.
Pfah!
Comment by gummitch
Sorry trueblue, but I gotta go with gummitch on this one. Kalamatas are d e v i n e !
July 5th, 2007 at 12:27 am…Tillamook, Or cheese was good. Not the best.
Whew – - Did I pass?
Would it help to tell you I have a Bud Ice in front of me right now?
Can I please come out of Hell?
Comment by trueblue
But but, I love Tillamook cheese… Waaaaahhhh!!
I’ll let gummitch handle the “Bud Ice” dilemma….. :D
July 5th, 2007 at 12:27 amIf Fitzgerald is a phony then he has the best act around. He really does seem to be an honest man. Then again George W. seemed to be a good old boy from down Texas way instead of the bue-blooded, Harvard and Yale elite, legacy-nitwit mofo that he really is.
-GSD
July 5th, 2007 at 12:28 amI believe you are accurate in your view of Fitzgerald, Zooey.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:29 amThe stakes are to high to make any mistakes.
He has a lot of knowledge about what has gone on in the WH inner circles, and we have not seen the last of Patrick Fitzgerald.
It’s FAT! Ick! How do you chew that up? A big white rubbery blob is all it is. Eewww.
Comment by trueblue
Thanks for this appetizing rendition. I’ll add no more steaks to my no more onion rings list.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:29 amNot that there’s anything wrong with being a vegan or granola muncher.
Comment by shane
I hail from Cambridge, MA – -
Home of Peace, Love, Granola! (Insert Peace Sign)
I simply follow the truth of a certain saying:
“Vegetarian: Indian word for Lousy Hunter”
July 5th, 2007 at 12:30 amHow can you NOT trim the fat off a rib-eye?
It’s FAT! Ick! How do you chew that up? A big white rubbery blob is all it is. Eewww.
Oh yeah, the fat is gross. I like a leaner steak.
Zooey, I don’t hoard them and gorge on them, it’s a guilty pleasure. I like spicy stuff.
I live for the spicy, but I wouldn’t touch a Slim Jim. :P
Woooo hooooo!! It’s 9:30, and our temp is down to 80. High of 93 today. It’s July, folks!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:31 amDamn, I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition! Do you at least have a comfy chair to torture me with? (Skip the dishrack!)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Noooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:31 am“Thanks for this appetizing rendition. I’ll add no more steaks to my no more onion rings list.”
Comment by shane — July 5, 2007 @ 12:29 am
No! I will NOT give up steaks and onion rings! Mmmmm, steaks and onion rings….(drool)
And, just to stay on topic, I think KKKarl is involved in EVERYTHING that goes on in this administration.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:32 amAnd his brown pants.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
And a sugar beet, a large sugar beet!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:32 amNooooooo,
I’m being sent to hell………………………..
I like olives(green) stuffed with jalepenos.
Oooh – cherry peppers with proscuitto and cheese – I have 6 of them in my ‘fridge right now…………..
Don’t send my to Republican Hell………
(**sob**/ **wail**/)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:33 amAnd a sugar beet, a large sugar beet!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I remember seeing truckloads of sugar beets when I was a wee child in CA — them are some big damn beets. Ouch. :D
July 5th, 2007 at 12:36 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 5, 2007 @ 12:32 am
Actually, I was referring to this.
I always liked that one.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:36 amAnd a sugar beet, a large sugar beet!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Oh No, we’re not back in sugar beet land, are we?
(I’m afraid…. someone hold my hand……)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:37 amI like olives(green) stuffed with jalepenos.
Oooh – cherry peppers with proscuitto and cheese – I have 6 of them in my ‘fridge right now…………..
Oh my god — YUM!!!
Don’t send my to Republican Hell………
(**sob**/ **wail**/)
Comment by trueblue
Not my jurisdiction, but I’d give you a break. :)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:38 amWhew – - Did I pass?
Comment by trueblue
Ooooh, aaall right, you did acknowledge the supremacy of NY St Cheddar…
July 5th, 2007 at 12:38 amI always liked that one.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Frickin’ hilarious….
July 5th, 2007 at 12:39 amAnd, just to stay on topic, I think KKKarl is involved in EVERYTHING that goes on in this administration.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Oh, that’s right, the TOPIC… we have a topic here, a good topic, and it’s about KKKarl… and sugar beets? WTF???
July 5th, 2007 at 12:39 amAnd a sugar beet, a large sugar beet!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Sugar beets are to be used for ethanol. What will happen when they are the latest craze in sex toys?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:40 amI like olives(green) stuffed with jalepenos.
Oooh – cherry peppers with proscuitto and cheese – I have 6 of them in my ‘fridge right now…………..
Don’t send my to Republican Hell………
(**sob**/ **wail**/)
Comment by trueblue
Anything small, green, crunchy and pickled (this excepts frogs…) is heaven. Garlic stuffed olives??? Ever had dilled cauliflower?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:41 amchipotle stuffed green olives……… mmmmmmm
July 5th, 2007 at 12:41 amOoooh, aaall right, you did acknowledge the supremacy of NY St Cheddar…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I see I’m not the only one who can’t be trusted….Hmmmm? :D
July 5th, 2007 at 12:42 amWhat will happen when they are the latest craze in sex toys?
Comment by shane
I dunno… ask a Repub. They’re the ones leading this charge. I’m just… a… reporter.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:42 amwith a brie
July 5th, 2007 at 12:43 amOoooh, aaall right, you did acknowledge the supremacy of NY St Cheddar…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
WHEW……………………
:)
………….and the rest of you?……….
Do you still like me?
( Total suck-up move)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:43 amWhat is worse…the braindead trolls or the food channel recipes?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:43 amNo way…He didn’t charge anyone with the crime, because the obstruction made it impossible to get a conviction. No good prosecutor will wing it like that. Fitz is not a grandstander. I have a feeling he’s keeping the files open and watching…
It’s better to wait until you have the evidence for conviction, than to charge someone just to look like you’re doing something.
If he charges Rove and he’s the wrong guy, Fitz just handed the right guy’s defense attorney a great big gun to blast holes in the case.
Comment by Zooey — July 4, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
I think that this is absolutely correct. Fitzgerald is an incredibly adept attorney. The FDL coverage was simply amazing. He really handled it quite well, and his closing was fantastic. When the case was over, he specifically told the MSM cameras that he believed he had information that Congress might need, and they should contact his office.
I am of the mind that Fitzgerald has supplied Waxman, Leahy, Conyers and others in Congress with vital information. Information that has allowed those in charge of committees to follow the trail of information to its final destination. I would wager that any information that the Congressional committees discover would enable Fitzgerald himself to place the pieces of the puzzle together. Once that final piece is in place, he can go after the real criminals with his prosecutorial powers, and the evidence to back the charges up.
I do not believe that Patrick Fitzgerald is a plant, but rather an honest man, biding his time.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:44 amActually, I was referring to this.
I always liked that one.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Good one. I vaguely recall a variation on that. Myabe Custer, or someone of that ilk.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:44 amabout KKKarl… and sugar beets? WTF???
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Well they are synonomous, aren’t they?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:45 amAnything small, green, crunchy and pickled (this excepts frogs…) is heaven. Garlic stuffed olives??? Ever had dilled cauliflower?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Heaven. I love pickled asparagus. I’ve never heard of dilled cauliflower. It sounds yummy…
chipotle stuffed green olives……… mmmmmmm
Comment by Raven
No way! Where do you get them?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:45 amEver had dilled cauliflower?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
??? What is that?
The closest my family came to Cauliflower was in the Sweet Mixed Pickle jar.
:D
July 5th, 2007 at 12:46 amWhat is worse…the braindead trolls or the food channel recipes?
Comment by kasinca
Hands down — brain dead trolls. :)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:46 am#
And a sugar beet, a large sugar beet!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Oh No, we’re not back in sugar beet land, are we?
(I’m afraid…. someone hold my hand……)
Comment by trueblue
A hardcore Republic “moderate” tried to convince me that sugar cane is what we mean in the US when we say “sugar”. Once I pointed out the statistics that beet sugar far exceeds production of cane sugar in the US he was … uh, silent.
Sucrose is sucrose. Period. Full stop.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:46 amThe caption for this story should be: Holy Meddling Turdblossoms!
-GSD
July 5th, 2007 at 12:46 amAnything small, green, crunchy and pickled (this excepts frogs…) is heaven. Garlic stuffed olives??? Ever had dilled cauliflower?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Ooooh, martinis with bluecheese stuffed olives, I better go to sleep before I end up drunk.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:47 amI see I’m not the only one who can’t be trusted….Hmmmm? :D
Comment by Zooey
What?? What??? Did I promise you cheese and renege? What?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:47 amDo you still like me?
( Total suck-up move)
Comment by trueblue
I bet you’re batting your eyelashes, too. Geez, talk about your emotional blackmail…..
July 5th, 2007 at 12:47 ampickled asparagus?
That’s a sin! Steam ‘em with salt & butter.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:47 amI bet you’re batting your eyelashes, too. Geez, talk about your emotional blackmail…..
Comment by Zooey
***cough*** from the expert***cough***
July 5th, 2007 at 12:48 amWell they are synonomous, aren’t they?
Comment by shane
True, tis true…
July 5th, 2007 at 12:49 amchipotle stuffed green olives……… mmmmmmm
Comment by Raven
No way! Where do you get them?
Comment by Zooey
In Spain, it was easy to find brined green olives stuffed with anchovies. Oh, so good, but the salt content would suck all the water out of your brain in minutes. Fortunately, rehydration was possible through cheap beer.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:49 amI do not believe that Patrick Fitzgerald is a plant, but rather an honest man, biding his time.
Comment by Moderation — July 5, 2007 @ 12:44 am
Wow. Wayne and Moderation agreeing with me in the same evening. I can die happy….
Thanks guys.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:49 amEven if this means that your heart explodes, this is the Eternal Truth: without fat there is no flavor. Or flavour.
So mote it be.
Pastor Gummitch
Comment by gummitch
Gummitch, I believe you are officially Chief Epicurean here at TP. Trueblue, Jane, listen to the man, he speaks truth to, to, tastelessness.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:50 amSweet Mixed Pickle jar.
Comment by trueblue
Barf.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:50 am“I do not believe that Patrick Fitzgerald is a plant, but rather an honest man, biding his time.”
Comment by Moderation — July 5, 2007 @ 12:44 am
I agree completely.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:51 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity
??? What is that?
The closest my family came to Cauliflower was in the Sweet Mixed Pickle jar.
:D
Comment by trueblue
there was probably some cauliflower in there. Dilled cauliflower is just like dill pickles, except w/ cauliflower instead of pickles (kind of redundant, I know…). Yummy, yummy stuff.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:52 amWhat?? What??? Did I promise you cheese and renege? What?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Heh.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:52 amI bet you’re batting your eyelashes, too. Geez, talk about your emotional blackmail…..
Comment by Zooey
Oh sure, but last night it was all Keith this and Keith that and Keith’s so hot, Ms. Fickle!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:53 amWow. Wayne and Moderation agreeing with me in the same evening. I can die happy….
Thanks guys.
Comment by Zooey — July 5, 2007 @ 12:49 am
What am I, chopped liver? I agreed with you, too!;-)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:53 am#201 Zooey,
Welcome to “Growing Up Irish” in the NE.
Boiled everything. Blech.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:53 amrehydration was possible through cheap beer.
Comment by gummitch
Indeed, behold the miracle of modern beer!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:53 amBoiled everything. Blech.
Comment by trueblue
My mother knew more ways to cook potatoes than most people can imagine.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:54 amIn Spain, it was easy to find brined green olives stuffed with anchovies. Oh, so good, but the salt content would suck all the water out of your brain in minutes. Fortunately, rehydration was possible through cheap beer.
Comment by gummitch
I think all the moisture left my brain just thinking of that, my friend. Replace that with beer, and I’m up for my first DUI. Heh.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:54 amDilled cauliflower is just like dill pickles, except w/ cauliflower instead of pickles (kind of redundant, I know…). Yummy, yummy stuff.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
How do you feel about half-sour pickles? Like NY Deli style?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:54 amOh sure, but last night it was all Keith this and Keith that and Keith’s so hot, Ms. Fickle!
Comment by shane
Oh—Slam!
You are very brave, shane. Now run………..
July 5th, 2007 at 12:56 amWhat am I, chopped liver? I agreed with you, too!;-)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
She’s probably still harboring that Keith grudge from last night.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:56 amWhat am I, chopped liver? I agreed with you, too!;-)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Give me a minute!! I’m still drooling over chipotle stuffed olives!
After I die happy, they will have to dig me up, resusitate me, and let me die happy all over again. :)
Nice, huh?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:57 amI bet you’re batting your eyelashes, too. Geez, talk about your emotional blackmail…..
Comment by Zooey
Zooey, I can only say **sniff… sniff** that I was rather hurt when you ignored me and spent all your time mooning overe Keith. What does keith have that I don’t, other than a television show and great ratings? but, hey, is Keith a “Republic”??
Care for a slice of cheese, trueblue?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:57 amMy mother knew more ways to cook potatoes than most people can imagine.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I’m liking you more and more.
:D
July 5th, 2007 at 12:58 amYou are very brave, shane. Now run………..
Comment by trueblue — July 5, 2007 @ 12:56 am
Oh, I joined the witness protection program befor I sent these two Keith posts through. I’m not crazy.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:59 amOh sure, but last night it was all Keith this and Keith that and Keith’s so hot, Ms. Fickle!
Comment by shane
Wayne said Jane was Mapquesting her way to Keith last night, and I don’t do sloppy seconds. :D
July 5th, 2007 at 12:59 amAh, the sweet smell of gunpowder is in the air (”what?! wait until it’s dark? Fug that!” and Jimi Hendrix is on the iPod/Bose playing The Star Spangled Banner. How much more patriotic can I be expected to be?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:01 amCare for a slice of cheese, trueblue?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Why, yes RoS, I would love to accept your invitation.
I’m sorry you were so scorned by the Mistress who shall not be named. I shall dry your tears.
I would enjoy your company greatly.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:02 amHow do you feel about half-sour pickles? Like NY Deli style?
Comment by trueblue
What’s a half-sour pickle? Never heard of it.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:02 amZooey, some advice from Spock (Star trek episode “The City on the Edge of Forever”, with Edith Keeler):
“Do as your heart tells you to do, and millions will die who did not die before.”
He may have been speaking of something else.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:02 amJimi Hendrix is on the iPod/Bose playing The Star Spangled Banner. How much more patriotic can I be expected to be?
Comment by gummitch — July 5, 2007 @ 1:01 am
Not one bit more! :D
July 5th, 2007 at 1:03 amHow much more patriotic can I be expected to be?
Comment by gummitch
Are you waving a small American flag in each hand?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:03 amZooey, I can only say **sniff… sniff** that I was rather hurt when you ignored me and spent all your time mooning overe Keith. What does keith have that I don’t, other than a television show and great ratings? but, hey, is Keith a “Republic�?
Care for a slice of cheese, trueblue?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Oh c’mon, that’s just not right!! I mean, I never had a chance, with Jane so close and her Mapquest. She’s blond, for heaven’s sake! Who can compete with that?
Oy, true’s blond.
Fine. Just fine. Share your cheese with true. *sniff*
July 5th, 2007 at 1:04 amI’m sorry you were so scorned by the Mistress who shall not be named. I shall dry your tears.
I would enjoy your company greatly.
Comment by trueblue
Yes, she can be rather… harsh. Hmmm, sharp cheddar and Slim Jims… a veritable feast for the true gormand…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:05 amWayne said Jane was Mapquesting her way to Keith last night, and I don’t do sloppy seconds. :D
Comment by Zooey
You mean mind games could keep you from true lust! Go get him!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:05 amSorry to interrupt, but does anyone have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal? The Huffingtonpost has a link to an article entitled: The Libby Effect On GOP Candidates.
Perhaps TP can get behind the subscription wall, and give us the gist of it?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:05 amWhat’s a half-sour pickle? Never heard of it.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Oy!
Psychic powers kick in. The Republic of Stupidity does not live within driving distance of Manhattan.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:06 amUm..I’m waving something in my hand, but it ain’t a small American flag. :)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
There are a couple of ways to take that, and I’m going w/ the safe one…
“Don’t Bogart that joi*t, my friend, pass it over to me!” :-D!!!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:07 am“Do as your heart tells you to do, and millions will die who did not die before.â€
He may have been speaking of something else.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Is that supposed to be as depressing as it sounds?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:07 amIck
Comment by gummitch — July 5, 2007 @ 1:07 am
It’s a cigarette. Sheesh! Where was your mind? :D
July 5th, 2007 at 1:07 amThe Republic of Stupidity does not live within driving distance of Manhattan.
Comment by gummitch
Sssshhh… that’s double top secret stuff, kid!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:08 amYes, she can be rather… harsh. Hmmm, sharp cheddar and Slim Jims… a veritable feast for the true gormand…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I will tend to your wounds, poor soul.
(really, the streets are littered with the Zooey-broken hearted.)
……………………………..:D
July 5th, 2007 at 1:08 amFine. Just fine. Share your cheese with true. *sniff*
Comment by Zooey
Are you feeling “geographically challenged”?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:09 amI would enjoy your company greatly.
Comment by trueblue
Yes, she can be rather… harsh. Hmmm, sharp cheddar and Slim Jims… a veritable feast for the true gormand…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I’m still here, ya know!!
Git yer asses to facebook!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:09 amActually, I probably wouldn’t have had to go even as far as NYC–I think Keith lives in Westchester County, so he’s probably no more than about 25 miles away…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:09 amComment by GSD
Ewwww… but funny.
Kind of gives new meaning to the phrase “getting pickled” when Jeff uses it, huh?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:10 amIt’s a cigarette. Sheesh! Where was your mind? :D
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Double ick!!
Wave the other thing! The thing gummitch was thinking about. :P
July 5th, 2007 at 1:10 amI’m still here, ya know!!
Git yer asses to facebook!
Comment by Zooey
Word, girl! Now you know how I feel when you talk about me as thought ** sniff… sniff…** I were a piece of furniture.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:11 amThe Republic of Stupidity does not live within driving distance of Manhattan.
Comment by gummitch
Sssshhh… that’s double top secret stuff, kid!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
To be honest, the best half-sour pickles I’ve had were made by a Jooish, hippie potter in Portland, Oregon. Worth putting up with the annual June party of “alternative school” parents just to get hands on her pickles.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:12 amIs that supposed to be as depressing as it sounds?
Comment by Zooey — July 5, 2007 @ 1:07 am
No, apparently not appropriate for your situation, as you have not traveled back in time and fallen in love with a man who must die in order for history to be set right.
Maybe Shakespeare has some better advice:
Love comforteth life sunshine after rain. (Venus and Adonis)
That sounds better.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:12 amI will tend to your wounds, poor soul.
(really, the streets are littered with the Zooey-broken hearted.)
……………………………..:D
Comment by trueblue
You do realize there is a great big bus out there with your name on it, right?
Heh.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:13 amI’m still here, ya know!!
Git yer asses to facebook!
Comment by Zooey
The Republic of Stupidity —-
Are you on Zooey’s facebook?
Just wondering why we have been summoned…….
(I’m afraid)
July 5th, 2007 at 1:14 amWait, I’m confused, what’s Wayne supposed to be waving? I can’t see him through the two computer screens!
Speaking of ‘too late’, I’ve got to go to bed. And so does “Waving Wayne”!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:14 am(really, the streets are littered with the Zooey-broken hearted.)
……………………………..:D
Yes, indeed… I could tell, as soon as you came on-line, that you would be gentle… and kind, unlike Her, Whose Name We Cannot Speak… your fonts were just so… firm, and round, and… and… inviting…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:14 am(I’m afraid)
Comment by trueblue
After the bus comment, so am I.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:15 amYou do realize there is a great big bus out there with your name on it, right?
Heh.
Comment by Zooey
Well, there is a great big deisel sounding noise right outside my bedroom…. but I’m sure it’s nothing…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:16 amWord, girl! Now you know how I feel when you talk about me as thought ** sniff… sniff…** I were a piece of furniture.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Oh I’m sorry, you great big hunk of Republic, you. Please forgive me?
Heh.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:16 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity
Get a room!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:16 amYes, indeed… I could tell, as soon as you came on-line, that you would be gentle… and kind, unlike Her, Whose Name We Cannot Speak… your fonts were just so… firm, and round, and… and… inviting…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Hey Zooey, it’s pretty safe to say I’m out of witness protection. What are you going to do about these two though?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:16 amFine. Just fine. Share your cheese with true. *sniff*
Comment by Zooey
Ah, it pains me to see you so unhappy. Here, it is a Big Cheese, as they say in America. You may have a slice too…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:18 amCan you point out on this anatomically-correct doll exactly where her “pickles†are?
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
You’re quicker than me, Jane! Those must be some hella “pickles!”
July 5th, 2007 at 1:18 amWord, girl! Now you know how I feel when you talk about me as thought ** sniff… sniff…** I were a piece of furniture.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Aawwwww, poor thing.
I would never do that to such an important poster.
There, there. Everything will be OK.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:19 amLove comforteth life sunshine after rain. (Venus and Adonis)
That sounds better.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Thank you, Wayne, that’s beautiful. You’re such a gentleman.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:19 amSpeaking of ‘too late’, I’ve got to go to bed. And so does “Waving Wayneâ€!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Goodnight, Wayne & Jane!!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:21 amThere, there. Everything will be OK.
Comment by trueblue
I knew you would be kinder than… “her”…
Funny, when I first read that, I saw the phrase “important poster” as “imposter”… and I’m thinking, WTF??? yeah, but what’s your point???
July 5th, 2007 at 1:22 amHey Zooey, it’s pretty safe to say I’m out of witness protection. What are you going to do about these two though?
Comment by shane
What two?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:22 amAh, it pains me to see you so unhappy. Here, it is a Big Cheese, as they say in America. You may have a slice too…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
WHAT? I offered you comfort and you went back?
…..I’m crushed.
Crushed, I tell you.
Never again will I eat NY Sharp Cheddar Cheese.
Too many memories…………..
July 5th, 2007 at 1:23 amYou’re such a gentleman.
Comment by Zooey
Boy, that didn’t take long, did it? that’s right, take my cheese and run off and share it w/ Wayne…
HEY, Jane… did you just see…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:23 am“If only you had been raised in White Plains, you would understand.”
Comment by gummitch — July 5, 2007 @ 1:18 am
Sorry, raised mostly in Brewster, like Wayne.
Gotta go to bed – goodnight, all!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:23 amI think I need to order two buses….
July 5th, 2007 at 1:24 amToo many memories…………..
Comment by trueblue
Hey, it’s a Big Cheese, and I’m a Big Republic. There’s more than enough of both to go around…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:25 amYeah, TRoS, I just saw… And she says I’m quicker than her!?
Goodnight! :D
July 5th, 2007 at 1:25 amGoodnight, Wayne & Jane!!
Comment by Zooey — July 5, 2007 @ 1:21 am
It should have been “like” not “life”, but I hope the sentiment still came through.
Good night. I keep forgetting it’s not Friday night, and I have to go to work tomorrow. Luckily I don’t have to use my brain much. ;)
July 5th, 2007 at 1:26 amI think I need to order two buses….
Comment by Zooey
Why? Are you going somewhere? I didn’t think you had enough friends to need TWO buses…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:26 amI dunno how you east coasters stay up so late. Pretty much bedtime for me (or laying in bed listening to the iPod time) and I have a three-hour advantage.
G’night.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:26 amIt should have been “like†not “lifeâ€, but I hope the sentiment still came through.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:28 amComment by Wayne A. Schneider
I got it. :)
Why? Are you going somewhere? I didn’t think you had enough friends to need TWO buses…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Ooooohhh, you are in trouble with that one!……….
you in trouble now…………
July 5th, 2007 at 1:28 amG’night, gummitch.
I’ll maybe be in your neck of the woods in a couple of years.
Anywhere but here.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:30 am:D
Why? Are you going somewhere? I didn’t think you had enough friends to need TWO buses…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Is that how it’s gonna go, TRoS? Well…… :P
I’m taking my cheese and going home. No, I’m eating my cheese and going to bed! That’s it.
**sniff**
I have lots of friends……
July 5th, 2007 at 1:31 amOoooohhh, you are in trouble with that one!……….
you in trouble now…………
Comment by trueblue
Well then, I guess I was wise to leave off the “let alone one” at the end of that sentence, huh?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:31 amI hope Rove chooses to travel and see the world he has helped craft once this nightmare is over. Although if he is kidnapped by terrorists and they behead him before I have TIVO, I’ll be pissed.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:31 amI have lots of friends……
Comment by Zooey — July 5, 2007 @ 1:31 am
I’m one. :) Facebook told me so.
Jane is, too!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:33 amOK, that was really funny!
Comment by trueblue
I knew you’d be back… they come for the cheese, but stay for the jokes!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:34 amWell then, I guess I was wise to leave off the “let alone one†at the end of that sentence, huh?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
It’s on now, TRoS……
If I remember in the morning, it is ON!
Waaaaahhh!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:34 amI’m taking my cheese and going home. No, I’m eating my cheese and going to bed! That’s it.
**sniff**
I have lots of friends……
Comment by Zooey
No – Don’t do that.
:(
I am never up this late – please?
(Don’t know id I’m ready to give you TROS, though.)
;)
July 5th, 2007 at 1:34 amJane is, too!
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Hey, you said you had gone to bed… it’s a good thing I didn’t say what I wanted to…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:35 amIF, not Id -
What a Freudian slip!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:35 amIf I remember in the morning, it is ON!
Waaaaahhh!
Comment by Zooey
Damn! And I thought she had gone to bed too…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:37 am(Don’t know id I’m ready to give you TROS, though.)
;)
Comment by trueblue
Ooooo! Fighting over me now… I LIKE it!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:38 amDamn! And I thought she had gone to bed too…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Playing me again. Mr TROS?
Haruuumph.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:38 amHaruuumph.
Comment by trueblue
But… but… I thought you had gone to bed…
Care for a slice of cheese, individually wrapped, ya know, for your pro…
Ah screw it… night all!!!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:41 amJust as I thought………..
Cheese sharer……….
**sob**
(runs and throws self on the bed)
Night!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:43 amClinton pardoned Mel Reynolds who is a pedphile(SIC).
Comment by The Captain
Sorry, Captain Kangaroo, but Mel Reynolds served some time in prison before Clinton ultimately “commuted”–his sentence–not “pardoned” him.
From wikipedia:
“Reynolds served all of his first sentence and served forty-two months in prison for the later charges. At that point, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted the sentence for bank fraud. As a result, Reynolds was released from prison and served the remaining time in a half way house. ”
Yes, I know that the facts seldom stand in the way of rightwing talking points and that your parents never taught you that “two wrongs don’t make a right.”
July 5th, 2007 at 3:01 amWell, had a good BBQ, took the kids out for fireworks, did a little work on the tequila bottle, and I’d like to hand out a few F/U’s before hitting the sack. F*ck you George, you should be dragged from the WH in much the same manner as Achilles dragged Hector; may I live to see the day. F*ck you Dickles, may the hot shrapnel of your exploding pacemaker exit your chest mid-snear during one of your droning speeches to the pod-people. F*ck you, Condi, Gonzo, Rove-turnip, you’ll all get yours at some point, and F*ck you, all you little scumbag reichwingnuts who throw over and betray the country for your sh*tty little cults of personality. See y’all tomorrow!
July 5th, 2007 at 3:18 amWow.
This thread shows all that can be accomplished by the “progressive” mind.
Things are gonna change, I can feel it!
July 5th, 2007 at 3:38 amWow.
This thread shows all that can be accomplished by the “progressive†mind.
Things are gonna change, I can feel it!
Comment by Mr. President
More “pearls of wisdom” from the guy whose comments often consist of gravemarkers for Cheney and the following:
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Comment by Mr. President —
Oh so clever and witty!
July 5th, 2007 at 3:49 amComment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 3:49 am
Thanks!
Glad to be of service.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:52 amSeems you Lefties need a troll or two in here just to stay on topic.
If not, you regress to cheese and slim-jims.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:55 amHEYOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SlEEp WeLl MY FOoLISh LEFtY FRiENdS,
THeRE WIlL bE MOrE DIsAPpOINTMeNt TOmORrOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 5th, 2007 at 3:59 amComment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 3:49 am
Thanks!
Glad to be of service.
Seems you Lefties need a troll or two in here just to stay on topic.
Comments by Mr. President
Too stupid to understand sarcasm, eh? And you’re virtually never on topic in any of your various names, preznitwit.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:59 amToo stupid to understand sarcasm, eh? And you’re virtually never on topic in any of your various names, preznitwit.
Comment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 3:59 am
“Progressive” indeed.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:00 amtrueblue
Pork crackling?
July 5th, 2007 at 4:28 am“I weighed this decision carefully,†the president told reporters after visiting wounded soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
I thought Bush was detached and didn’t care about the troops? TP needs to do a better job of sanitizing this kind of information.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:56 amSure, a testimonial from Vin Weber, a signatory on PNAC, and a regional director of Bush-Cheney 04. I’m sure he’s giving an objective opinion on this.
Kind of a silly question, actually. Of course Rove was involved. He’s Bush’s Brain.
July 5th, 2007 at 6:46 am“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE.”
– Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945
By: okiemon on September 27, 2006 at 10:24am
“As people do better, they start voting like Republicans – unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.”
Karl Rove.
July 5th, 2007 at 6:46 amIf “The Captain” still wants to have a serious discussion, I’m still waiting for my answers from way back a few comments. I’ll check in tonight when I get home.
July 5th, 2007 at 6:52 am“Rove identified that Wilson should be sent to Niger and then used to out Plame to close down the WMD intelligence unit.”
I believe you are correct about this, ace, although I’m not sure if Rove was the architect of this operation. Remember the picture of Cheney’s “notes” made on the Wilson’s NYT editorial? Strange that Dick would keep this document for the historical record, no? Unless you really want to have a cover story to mask the real agenda item.
I know the noise machine loves to bloviate that “PLAME WAS NOT A NOC!!!!!!!!”….but they have very little to say about Brewster Jennings and the work they were doing, tracking WMD in the ME theater. Kind of makes you wonder how serious these people are on the “GWOT”.
The clock is ticking…..their illegitimate time in office draws down and the American people are primed to vote Democrats bigtime in 2008. So what will they do to maintain control of the Presidency? Because they cannot afford to have Democrats in a position to investigate and expose the entire rotten criminal enterprise that has been put into place. Can they steal 2008 again? Doubtful. That leaves another 9/11 event that will allow them to declare martial law. At that point, the terrorists will have won.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:14 amBush was a little bit too careful to emphasize that he was the “loan wolf” on the commute decision, because any admitted involvement by Rove or Cheney in the decision would be evidence of obstruction of justice in an investigation that has not yet been terminated. Fitzgerald is still out there. When did awkward or inappropriate ever stop these guys before? And the chance that Cheney was excluded from the discussions is about the same as the chance Cheney didn’t send Libby on his treasonous errands in the first place.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:16 amThe radical Right has failed its audition.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:27 amI love these zipperheads: “waaaahh waaaaah Clinton waaahhh Marc Rich waaaahh waaaaahhh” — the only thing is, dear zipperheads, is that your pals Limbaugh and Hannity didn’t tell you everything (as usual, because telling you everything would expose what liars they are.)
Turns out that your buddy Scooter was Marc Rich’s attorney, and he’s the one who petitioned Clinton for the pardon. Rich’s prosecutor? Patrick Fitzgerald.
You really got to get out a little more and look around.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:41 amComment by Lora — July 5, 2007 @ 3:59 am
“Progressive†indeed.
Comment by Mr. President
Poor little whining Repubrat can’t take criticism. Typical Reputard.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:58 amIran has No Nuclear Weapons Capabilities
by Scott Ritter
Global Research, July 5, 2007
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6215
Ritter was 100% correct when, prior to the invasion of Iraq, he proclaimed that Iraq had no WMD.
Are we going to ignore the man twice?
July 5th, 2007 at 8:59 amâ€We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.â€
Have you eve heard a more dangerous or arrogant statement in your life?
July 5th, 2007 at 9:09 amThis thread shows all that can be accomplished by the “progressive†mind.
Things are gonna change, I can feel it!
Comment by Mr. President
It’s called fun, Mr P. Get some. Have some.
July 5th, 2007 at 9:32 am> Remember the run on duct tape?
Tom Ridge is on the board of directors of Home Depot, a great place to buy duct tape.. coincidence??
July 5th, 2007 at 11:19 amThank you Ace for your incredible research – and for connecting more of the dots. I have always believed that 9/11 was an inside job – and that another “terrorist” attack by the WH is imminent. They are all criminals being backed into a very tight corner – and We the People are their victims. My gnawing question is when, where and how? And then what………
The truth will set us free.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:49 amHi All! Much gratitude to Ace for his awesome posts, links, and further evidence that 911 was an inside job – something we truthseekers have suspected for a very long time. Keep the posts coming, dear Ace, because knowledge Is power and the greater the information and it’s legitimate sources, the more empowered the People will become vis this knowledge.
To say that it’s all beginning to make perfect sense now is a total “understatement” because in it’s sheer illogicality of it all, it is now making logical sense.
Somewhere along the line in one of the posts there was an allusion to Shulsky and Wolfowitz being students of Leo Strauss. Do yourself a favor and research Strauss’ philosophy a bit and you will quickly recognize that the PNAC neocons are plagiarizing it to a tee!
Amazing! So, the Rovian “evil genius” may now more aptly be dubbed Rove: “Only evil” because his apparent “genius” is nothing new but a philosophy advanced by Irving Kristol way, way back.
To say that the plans for 911 had their genesis eons ago is, in fact, understatement as it’s becoming apparent that both William Kristol’s grandfather and Bush 43’s grandfather (Prescott Bush) were involved in anti-democratic philsophies. Amazing how these apples have not fallen far from their respective trees, isn’t it?
It’s all beginning to make logical, if disgustingly heinous and hypocritical, sense now, thanks to Ace’s incredibly informative posts.
Please, Ace….continue to enlighten us as most americans have now reached that remarkable intersection called “Truth” and are ready to be set free by knowledge of truth. Up until now, all we’ve been spoon-fed is the fictionalized version of it all.
Kudos to Ace for bringing the “critical mass truth movement” one step further in our eternal quest to bring truth to our lives.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:24 pmJust want to add my thanks to ace for his informative posts on this thread. I’m saddened, but not surprised, to find that TP has seen fit to “disappear” all but three of them. Glad I had the chance to peruse them before TP made the decision to remove them from the public eye.
Kudos, ace…keep up the good work.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:57 pm“Awkward”?
Since when does this Administration give a damn about “awkward”?
They don’t even give a shit about “blatant”, much less “awkward”.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:34 pmApparently TP perceives the ENTIRE TRUTH to be too dangerous to their own cause.
Sort of makes you wonder what cause could possibly rank higher than THE TRUTH.
Deleting posts is simply another form of authoritarianism.
Free speech s not negotiable.
Choose sides.
I’m with the Americans.
July 5th, 2007 at 8:06 pmKeep on posting, ace, Americans need the truth!
July 5th, 2007 at 10:39 pmace-
fyi, your posts are up here-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3357534&mesg_id=3359993
July 6th, 2007 at 12:29 pm