Comments on: Was Rove involved in commutation discussions?

By: Innocent Bystander

Innocent Bystander — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:29:55 +0000

ace-

fyi, your posts are up here-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3357534&mesg_id=3359993

By: Jane E. Schneider

Jane E. Schneider — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:39:38 +0000

Keep on posting, ace, Americans need the truth!

By: ace

ace — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 00:06:24 +0000

Apparently TP perceives the ENTIRE TRUTH to be too dangerous to their own cause.

Sort of makes you wonder what cause could possibly rank higher than THE TRUTH.

Deleting posts is simply another form of authoritarianism.

Free speech s not negotiable.

Choose sides.

I’m with the Americans.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:34:01 +0000

“Awkward”?

Since when does this Administration give a damn about “awkward”?

They don’t even give a shit about “blatant”, much less “awkward”.

By: TripMaster Monkey

TripMaster Monkey — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:57:47 +0000

Just want to add my thanks to ace for his informative posts on this thread. I’m saddened, but not surprised, to find that TP has seen fit to “disappear” all but three of them. Glad I had the chance to peruse them before TP made the decision to remove them from the public eye.

Kudos, ace…keep up the good work.

By: veritas

veritas — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:24:26 +0000

Hi All! Much gratitude to Ace for his awesome posts, links, and further evidence that 911 was an inside job – something we truthseekers have suspected for a very long time. Keep the posts coming, dear Ace, because knowledge Is power and the greater the information and it’s legitimate sources, the more empowered the People will become vis this knowledge.

To say that it’s all beginning to make perfect sense now is a total “understatement” because in it’s sheer illogicality of it all, it is now making logical sense.

Somewhere along the line in one of the posts there was an allusion to Shulsky and Wolfowitz being students of Leo Strauss. Do yourself a favor and research Strauss’ philosophy a bit and you will quickly recognize that the PNAC neocons are plagiarizing it to a tee!
Amazing! So, the Rovian “evil genius” may now more aptly be dubbed Rove: “Only evil” because his apparent “genius” is nothing new but a philosophy advanced by Irving Kristol way, way back.

To say that the plans for 911 had their genesis eons ago is, in fact, understatement as it’s becoming apparent that both William Kristol’s grandfather and Bush 43’s grandfather (Prescott Bush) were involved in anti-democratic philsophies. Amazing how these apples have not fallen far from their respective trees, isn’t it?

It’s all beginning to make logical, if disgustingly heinous and hypocritical, sense now, thanks to Ace’s incredibly informative posts.

Please, Ace….continue to enlighten us as most americans have now reached that remarkable intersection called “Truth” and are ready to be set free by knowledge of truth. Up until now, all we’ve been spoon-fed is the fictionalized version of it all.

Kudos to Ace for bringing the “critical mass truth movement” one step further in our eternal quest to bring truth to our lives.

By: green

green — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:49:16 +0000

Thank you Ace for your incredible research – and for connecting more of the dots. I have always believed that 9/11 was an inside job – and that another “terrorist” attack by the WH is imminent. They are all criminals being backed into a very tight corner – and We the People are their victims. My gnawing question is when, where and how? And then what………

The truth will set us free.

By: Jesus loves the warm Beef of a Man

Jesus loves the warm Beef of a Man — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:19:27 +0000

> Remember the run on duct tape?

Tom Ridge is on the board of directors of Home Depot, a great place to buy duct tape.. coincidence??

By: Zooey

Zooey — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:32:01 +0000

This thread shows all that can be accomplished by the â€œprogressiveâ€ mind.

Things are gonna change, I can feel it!

Comment by Mr. President

It’s called fun, Mr P. Get some. Have some.

By: ace

ace — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:09:01 +0000

â€Weâ€™re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while youâ€™re studying that reality â€” judiciously, as you will â€” weâ€™ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and thatâ€™s how things will sort out. Weâ€™re historyâ€™s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.â€

Have you eve heard a more dangerous or arrogant statement in your life?

By: ace

ace — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:59:11 +0000

Iran has No Nuclear Weapons Capabilities

by Scott Ritter

Global Research, July 5, 2007

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6215

Ritter was 100% correct when, prior to the invasion of Iraq, he proclaimed that Iraq had no WMD.

Are we going to ignore the man twice?

By: Lora

Lora — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:58:37 +0000

Comment by Lora â€” July 5, 2007 @ 3:59 am
â€œProgressiveâ€ indeed.
Comment by Mr. President

Poor little whining Repubrat can’t take criticism. Typical Reputard.

By: trippin

trippin — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:41:01 +0000

I love these zipperheads: “waaaahh waaaaah Clinton waaahhh Marc Rich waaaahh waaaaahhh” — the only thing is, dear zipperheads, is that your pals Limbaugh and Hannity didn’t tell you everything (as usual, because telling you everything would expose what liars they are.)

Turns out that your buddy Scooter was Marc Rich’s attorney, and he’s the one who petitioned Clinton for the pardon. Rich’s prosecutor? Patrick Fitzgerald.

You really got to get out a little more and look around.

By: Perry Logan

Perry Logan — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:27:59 +0000

The radical Right has failed its audition.

By: rollotomasi

rollotomasi — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:16:45 +0000

Bush was a little bit too careful to emphasize that he was the “loan wolf” on the commute decision, because any admitted involvement by Rove or Cheney in the decision would be evidence of obstruction of justice in an investigation that has not yet been terminated. Fitzgerald is still out there. When did awkward or inappropriate ever stop these guys before? And the chance that Cheney was excluded from the discussions is about the same as the chance Cheney didn’t send Libby on his treasonous errands in the first place.

By: Innocent Bystander

Innocent Bystander — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:14:56 +0000

“Rove identified that Wilson should be sent to Niger and then used to out Plame to close down the WMD intelligence unit.”

I believe you are correct about this, ace, although I’m not sure if Rove was the architect of this operation. Remember the picture of Cheney’s “notes” made on the Wilson’s NYT editorial? Strange that Dick would keep this document for the historical record, no? Unless you really want to have a cover story to mask the real agenda item.

I know the noise machine loves to bloviate that “PLAME WAS NOT A NOC!!!!!!!!”….but they have very little to say about Brewster Jennings and the work they were doing, tracking WMD in the ME theater. Kind of makes you wonder how serious these people are on the “GWOT”.

The clock is ticking…..their illegitimate time in office draws down and the American people are primed to vote Democrats bigtime in 2008. So what will they do to maintain control of the Presidency? Because they cannot afford to have Democrats in a position to investigate and expose the entire rotten criminal enterprise that has been put into place. Can they steal 2008 again? Doubtful. That leaves another 9/11 event that will allow them to declare martial law. At that point, the terrorists will have won.

By: Wayne A. Schneider

Wayne A. Schneider — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:52:09 +0000

If “The Captain” still wants to have a serious discussion, I’m still waiting for my answers from way back a few comments. I’ll check in tonight when I get home.

By: ace

ace — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:46:27 +0000

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE.”
– Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

By: okiemon on September 27, 2006 at 10:24am

“As people do better, they start voting like Republicans – unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.”

Karl Rove.

By: Innocent Bystander

Innocent Bystander — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:46:20 +0000

Sure, a testimonial from Vin Weber, a signatory on PNAC, and a regional director of Bush-Cheney 04. I’m sure he’s giving an objective opinion on this.

Kind of a silly question, actually. Of course Rove was involved. He’s Bush’s Brain.

By: CaptainMantastic

CaptainMantastic — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:56:10 +0000

â€œI weighed this decision carefully,â€ the president told reporters after visiting wounded soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

I thought Bush was detached and didn’t care about the troops? TP needs to do a better job of sanitizing this kind of information.