REPORT: Voters Believe Iraq Is Creating More Terrorists, Distracting From Domestic Priorities
REPORT: Voters Believe Iraq Is Creating More Terrorists, Distracting From Domestic Priorities
ThinkProgress has obtained results of a new poll released yesterday at the Aspen Ideas Festival, a conference hosted by The Atlantic and the Aspen Institute. The poll finds that voters of all parties are overwhelmingly pessimistic about the war in Iraq, believing the United States will fail. The war has distracted from the fight against terrorism and other domestic priorities. Some highlights:
– 82 percent say people in other countries view the United States unfavorably.
– 71 percent say people in other countries now view the American people unfavorably.
– 53 percent of American believe the largest threat facing the United State is from terrorist organizations.
– 83 percent of Americans believe the U.S. should share a leadership role with allies and other countries around the world.
– 63 percent of voters think the U.S. should focus on domestic problems instead of foreign affairs.
– 56 percent of Americans believe that the war in Iraq is distracting us from the war on terror.
– 67 percent believe the war in Iraq is creating more terrorists.
– 72 percent favor diplomacy to pressure with Iran.
Also yesterday at the festival, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) said, “Habeas corpus is coming back, and we’re going to solve that one.”
According to a recent LA Times/Bloomberg poll, 68 percent of the American public also wants Bush to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq. The Center for American Progress recently released a report called Strategic Reset that lays out a plan for the withdrawal of virtually all U.S. troops within one year and phases out the U.S. “training of Iraq’s national security forces.”
More updates from the Aspen Ideas festival HERE.
UPDATE: Full poll results HERE.
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The Iraq War is yet another failed Bush policy.
HAS EVEN ONE BUSH POLICY WORKED?
He’s an idiot! Hahahahaha!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:44 pmThe slumbering electorate is awake and cranky.
IMPEACH CHENEY AND BUSH
July 5th, 2007 at 12:44 pm82 percent say people in other countries view the United States unfavorably.
Proof that 18% of voters in the US don’t ever leave the house, own a television or computer and don’t subscribe to a newspaper.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:46 pmPolls, polls, polls… you libs are obsessed with measuring how the American public thinks about things.
Bush goes with his gut, and whatever the American people “think” is not important.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:46 pmClinton did it too!!!
oh wait..
July 5th, 2007 at 12:46 pmVoters Believe Iraq Is Creating More Terrorists, Distracting From Domestic Priorities
The sheeple are awake, blinking, looking around, and saying, “What that f*ck is going on here….?”
:-)
July 5th, 2007 at 12:48 pmWell Duhh!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:49 pmThe poll finds that voters of all parties are overwhelmingly pessimistic about the war in Iraq, believing the United States will fail.
We have already won!!!
All we are doing now is charity work for the Iraqis.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:50 pm82 percent say people in other countries view the United States unfavorably.
That’s understandable.
We are better than them and they are jealous.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:52 pm“Distracting From Domestic Priorities
Comment by Zooey — July 5, 2007″
Such as?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:52 pmGuess they forgot to poll the Trolls here…. they could NEVER agree to such drivel!! Oh Wait, they did, and they are part of the 33% who DON’T believe we are creating more terrorists in Iraq. But then, none of them have ever served in Iraq, so how would they know!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:52 pmZooey,
“What that f*ck is going on here….?â€
You are dea on. My best friend called me Tuesday to talk about the Libby commutation. He is the least engaged person I have ever known. But he is furious over this. He never discusses politics. But I get a call from him out of the blue, and he wants the total background on this thing and wants to know what he can do. It was incredible.
Americans probably despise injustice more than any other crime. All ‘other’ Americans realize that they had been convicted of obstruction and perjury, they would be doing the time.
They see this as injustice. Plain and simple. And that pisses people off!!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:53 pmHow does this reconcile with 41% of American’s still believing that Saddam was behind 9/11?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:54 pmmichael,
Health care. Debt. Deficits. Infrastructure. Energy Policy. Global Warming. Military readiness. National Parks. Homeland Security. Etc, etc…
July 5th, 2007 at 12:55 pm71 percent say people in other countries now view the American people unfavorably.
O… k.
So 82% say people in other countries view the US unfavorably, and 71% say that the same people view the American people unfavorably…
First of all, how did those who were polled make the distinction?
Secondly, what assumptions did they make about the distinction made by “people in other countries”?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI thought the President in Thief is supposed to lead the country. It is obvious he is out of touch with the majority. He MUST be nippin at the bottle again…anywhew, is it beer thirty yet? I’m parched!
July 5th, 2007 at 12:57 pm53 percent of American(sic) believe the largest threat facing the United State is from terrorist organizations.
So what?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:57 pm83 percent of Americans believe the U.S. should share a leadership role with allies and other countries around the world.
Yup, “Leader of the Free World,” pretty cool, huh?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:59 pm“Leader of the Free World,†That always makes me laugh when I see it. Same effect as “World Series” and “World Champion Detroit Pistons”….
July 5th, 2007 at 1:00 pm63 percent of voters think the U.S. should focus on domestic problems instead of foreign affairs.
Instead???
Well, these people are clearly moronic.
The U.S. should focus on both.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:01 pmComment by TerrytheTurtle — July 5, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Yes, me too.
So does my alias, “PRIMVS INTER PARES”
trans: First Among Equals
July 5th, 2007 at 1:02 pmWow. There sure are a lot of people in the left wing of the Democratic party. Most Americans, it seems. Quick, omebody tell David Broder and the rest of the Washington press corps.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:02 pmMr. President, don’t you more important things to do, like removing all of the H’s and C’s on all the keyboards in the Oval office
July 5th, 2007 at 1:03 pmherr dubyah’s greatest success is utter and complete failure.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:04 pm56 percent of Americans believe that the war in Iraq is distracting us from the war on terror.
Wow. That’s not that bad, especially coming from a poll released at the “Aspen Ideas Festival.”
July 5th, 2007 at 1:05 pmDon’t listen to the polls, listen to David Broder! Respect the wisdom of you leaders!
(V.amusing takedown by Mahablog) http://tinyurl.com/24n8mf
Oh and well done Arlen! Awesome idea! But…why did it go away in the first place? YOU didn’t have anything to do with that, did you–you and your party and your President?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:06 pm67 percent believe the war in Iraq is creating more terrorists.
Okay.
Still not a valid reason for us to abandon the Iraqi people.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:06 pmall of them should call up their Congressmen and the White House and tell them…
July 5th, 2007 at 1:07 pmUmmm… how about an Ideas Festival in New Orleans?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:07 pmStill not a valid reason for us to abandon the Iraqi people.
Comment by Mr. President
THEY want US to leave.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:09 pmOkay.
Still not a valid reason for us to abandon the Iraqi people.
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
We already have killed 650K, displaced millions.. I think they would appreciate being abandoned.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:09 pmSince when do reich-wingers care about the Iraqi people? GOPigs support the murder and torture of any and all brown people.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:10 pmOh, and Mr. President, make sure you remove the B’s and O’s off your typewriter (keyboard assumes too much)
July 5th, 2007 at 1:10 pmComment by Zooey — July 5, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
Who?
Some Iraqis.
For what reason?
So the ethnic cleansing can commence?
We are a caring people, there is no way we would abandon Iraq to the Islamic extremists.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:12 pmBush uses the threat of terrorism to rule America like a monarch/emperor.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:12 pmWe already have killed 650K, displaced millions.. I think they would appreciate being abandoned.
Comment by MnM — July 5, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
What methodology was used to gather those statistics, sir?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:13 pm“Still not a valid reason for us to abandon the Iraqi people.”
Let’s ask the Iraqis then shall we? Oh yeah, we did and a massive majoirty wants the US to ‘eave and condones killing American soldiers because they keep trying to “help” Hello? Sovereign nation! S;ef determination! Freedom! Democracy! All old news, yet still they are occupied. Spare us you fake conerns for “the Iragi people”. I guess the US juat hasn;t unleashed enough firepower and chaos to kill off the idots who don’t know you and Bush and the neocons really have ther best interests at heart.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:14 pmMr. President,
“We are a caring people, there is no way we would abandon Iraq to the Islamic extremists.”
Why not? We did in Afghanistan.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:14 pm“What methodology was used to gather those statistics, sir?
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:13 pm”
The same one that has been used in the past MANY TIMES and has been ACCEPTED as ACCURATE.
http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2006/burnham_iraq_2006.html
July 5th, 2007 at 1:17 pmWe have already won!!!
All we are doing now is charity work for the Iraqis.
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
Excellent news, Mr. Pee! Then let’s leave! What do you think?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:18 pmWe are a caring people, there is no way we would abandon Iraq to the Islamic extremists.
Comment by Mr. President
You forgot the WMDs there, around Tikrit in the North and South ane everywhere in that irrelevant propaganda kit.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:20 pmComment by Crump’s Brother — July 5, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
Really?
I thought we still had troops there.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:20 pmComment by Zooey
If they wanted us to leave so quickly, the Iraqi government would have passed a quick mandate requiring us to do so. This is the same Iraqi government recently voted in by its current citizens.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:21 pmThe White House should be ashamed to see these outrageous polls and opinions against them from the American people. I do believe the war in Iraq is creating more terrorism and violence. Even worse, it is causing more poverty and hunger in this world. As one of the nations pledge to eliminate world hunger in the Milennium Goals, the US is not meeting up to its standards. $340 billion dollars has been spent on this fruitless war. However, it only takes $19 billion dollars each year to end world poverty. US could have ended 17 years of hunger, disease, poverty and ill education. This administration is in desperate need of reform and new direction.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:21 pmStill not a valid reason for us to abandon the Iraqi people.
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
but… I thught you said we were just doing “charity work” for the Iraqis?
So… you’re FOR “charity work” that creates more terrorists?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:21 pmComment by Juan C
We were simply wrong about WMD’s, Juan. It doesn’t mean that the Iraqi people didn’t need our help in other ways.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:22 pmWe are a caring people, there is no way we would abandon Iraq to the Islamic extremists.
Comment by Mr. President
We created the hell that is the Iraq of today. They want us gone. We should go.
BTW, any sentence by YOU containing the word “caring” is instantly diminished.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:23 pmIf they wanted us to leave so quickly, the Iraqi government would have passed a quick mandate requiring us to do so. This is the same Iraqi government recently voted in by its current citizens.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent
Don’t be so blind, CT. The Iraqi government is a puppet of our own government.
How can you continue to be so naive?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:24 pmWe were simply wrong about WMD’s, Juan. It doesn’t mean that the Iraqi people didn’t need our help in other ways.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
“Honest, honey, I was sure that there was an imminent threat to our family inside this strip club. I was wrong. But that doesn’t mean I should abandon these poor, half-clothed young women who need my help.”
July 5th, 2007 at 1:25 pmSame effect as “World Series†and “World Champion Detroit Pistonsâ€â€¦.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
But the funniest mistake is: Football. How many times you use the foot in a that 60 minute rugby-wanna be sport?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:25 pmWe were simply wrong about WMD’s, Juan. It doesn’t mean that the Iraqi people didn’t need our help in other ways.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
They did need our help, you know with jobs, fixing the infrastructure that was slowly being rebuilt after we bombed the crap out of it 15 years ago.
But instead of helping, the Iraqi people now have less jobs, less food, less water, less electricitiy, less safety..
You know just like everything you GOP’ers touch, you fcuk up.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:27 pm#49 How can you continue to be so naive?
Comment by Zooey
Zoo,
May I take it that this was a rhetorical question?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:28 pmIt doesn’t mean that the Iraqi people didn’t need our help in other ways.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent
Well, bombing the civilian population and starving it to death since 1991 is not what the common sense sees HELP. Now, invading their country for illegal and immoral reasons, killing thousands of them, watching troops from a foreign country every single day right out your home, and driving away millions of people from their places is not what a normal person would call HELP. Perhaps we should start there.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:29 pmComment by RemoveBush — July 5, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
FROM THE LINK:
The proportion of deaths attributed to coalition forces diminished in 2006 to 26 percent. Between March 2003 and July 2006, households attributed 31 percent of deaths to the coalition.
Clearly, we are not the biggest problem. In fact, we most certainly are helping… unlike other countries…
While the survey collected information on the manner of death, the study did not examine the circumstances of the death, such as whether the deceased was actively involved in armed combat, terrorism, criminal activity or caught in the middle of the conflict.
Well, that data might be nice to have before we start spitting out numbers indiscriminately.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:29 pmMay I take it that this was a rhetorical question?
Comment by upside00
I would love an answer to the question, but I fear it will stand as rhetorical. :}
July 5th, 2007 at 1:29 pm#54 Juan C
You are assuming that BushCo WANTS to help them. VERY bad assumption, indeed!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:30 pmComment by MnM
Ahem.
Get lost.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:31 pmBut the funniest mistake is: Football. How many times you use the foot in a that 60 minute rugby-wanna be sport?
Comment by Juan C — July 5, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
Actually, Juan, the history of the “soccer/football” distinction is very interesting.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:32 pmComment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Excellent point, Mr. President.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:33 pmComment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
That was easy… a little too easy.
Maybe we should go back to cracking jokes and posting 1000 crosses!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:34 pmWe were simply wrong about WMD’s, Juan.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent
I want to add to this misleading point. That was not a mistake, CT. Your country owns by far the best technology systems regarding military equipment, space science, communications and electronics. THEY KNEW there were not WMDs, THATS WHY THEY INVADED IT!!! Why dont they invade China for Christ´s sake if Chinese live under current, widely docummented oppression? Oh, becuz China WOULD kick your ass, for sure. Thats why you dont mess with Russia, Pakistan or any other country that has WMDS. You just go for the little countries like East Timor, Granada and Cuba.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:34 pmHere is a snapshot of Clinton foreign policy at work during his “Peace Time Presidency”.
Rwandan Genocide: An estimated 800,000 Rwandans killed in 100 days.
100 days to kill 800,000! Peace time too!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:35 pmFlaco!
Nice work with the finishing touch!!!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:36 pmClinton did apologize.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:36 pmthanks Mr. President
July 5th, 2007 at 1:36 pmComment by Flaco — July 5, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Flaco, good job there.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:38 pmOh, the irony…
In fact, we most certainly are helping… unlike other countries…
Comment by Mr. President
What fact? You just said it and boom! it is a fact? Too funny. But then we have:
Well, that data might be nice to have before we start spitting out numbers indiscriminately.
Oh, the Fact man, asking for facts… hehehehe. This was one was really good.
BTW, the invading coalition once it entered Baghdad, the first thing it did was to seized the Oil Ministry…mmmm…I wonder they used it as a shelter to protect all poor, starving Iraqis. Yes, you are helping, boy.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:39 pmIt doesn’t mean that the Iraqi people didn’t need our help in other ways.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Effendi, thank you for taking up the White Man’s Burden.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:40 pmSo does my alias, “PRIMVS INTER PARESâ€
trans: First Among Equals
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
Someone has an inferiority complex here, and it’s not me.
Small dick you have, itsn’t?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:41 pmFootball. How many times you use the foot in a that 60 minute rugby-wanna be sport?
Comment by Juan C — July 5, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
LOL – saw Argentina-US last week – scary performance by the men in Blue and White.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:41 pm#58 Comment by MnM
Ahem.
Get lost.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent
DAMN!! MnM, you just blew CT right out of the water! He had no response other than to say “get Lost”, like a typical 5th grader.. Kinda like the rest of the second team Trolls here.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:44 pmThe proportion of deaths attributed to coalition forces diminished in 2006 to 26 percent. Between March 2003 and July 2006, households attributed 31 percent of deaths to the coalition.
Oh, it’s only 200,000 attributed to the coalition and not 660,000 – that’s a relief.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:44 pmHere is a snapshot of Clinton foreign policy at work during his “Peace Time Presidencyâ€.
Rwandan Genocide: An estimated 800,000 Rwandans killed in 100 days.
100 days to kill 800,000! Peace time too!
Comment by Flaco — July 5, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Wow! Flaccid has found a new and ingenious way to expand the “Clinton Did It Too”â„¢ brand!
Clinton is now responsible for the genocide in Rwanda!
I wonder… does that make Bush equally responsible for the genocide in Darfur?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:44 pmOK Mr. President……
Then why don’t we attack China for this???
WARNING! GRAPHIC PHOTO’S!
http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/today-china1.htm
This is as bad, if not worse, then what Saddam ever did and this happens regularly….
So why have we not done anything about this?????
BECAUSE THEY CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES AND THEY HAVE NO OIL!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:44 pmAhem.
Get lost.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
Why should MnM get lost, CT? Was that a little too close for comfort?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:45 pmComment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Excellent point, Mr. President.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:45 pmHere is a snapshot of Clinton foreign policy at work during his “Peace Time Presidencyâ€.
Rwandan Genocide: An estimated 800,000 Rwandans killed in 100 days.
100 days to kill 800,000! Peace time too!
WMDs not needed here.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:45 pmPeace time too!
Comment by Flaco — July 5, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Probably felt like a war to them…. what does this comment mean anyway?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:46 pm100 days to kill 800,000! Peace time too!
WMDs not needed here.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:46 pmOh, answering my own question:
“100s of thousands of dead people – Clinton did it too!”
July 5th, 2007 at 1:46 pmIt doesn’t mean that the Iraqi people didn’t need our help in other ways.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Effendi, thank you for taking up the White Man’s Burden.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — July 5, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
Exactly. And we all know how “well” that worked out for those receiving our “help.”
July 5th, 2007 at 1:47 pmscary performance by the men in Blue and White.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
If by scary you mean boring, I agree. :{
They can play better, they should play faster.
BTW, Tevez go to Man U, it seems. Another reason to hate Man U for you, I guess. :D
July 5th, 2007 at 1:47 pmExcellent point, Mr. President.
Comment by pseudo-Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
NAME HI-JACKING!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:47 pmComment by Flaco — July 5, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
So you admit that Bush is responsible for genocide in Darfur?
July 5th, 2007 at 1:48 pmYes lets bring the Clintons back into the Presidency.
Clinton 2008!!!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:48 pmNAME HI-JACKING!
Comment by Mr. President
Take it up with TP.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:48 pmTake it up with TP.
Comment by Zooey — July 5, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
I ain’t no snitch!!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:50 pm100 days to kill 800,000! Peace time too!
WMDs not needed here.
Worlds greatest President. Clinton Rules Yea!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:51 pmIf by scary you mean boring, I agree. :{
They can play better, they should play faster.
BTW, Tevez go to Man U, it seems. Another reason to hate Man U for you, I guess. :D
Comment by Juan C — July 5, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
First half, yes, three goal patch in second – US hardly touched the ball.
And Man U – don’t need any more reasons, the ones I have are good enough.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:52 pmAnd Man U – don’t need any more reasons, the ones I have are good enough.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Ha!! NIce comeback.
July 5th, 2007 at 1:58 pmSo 82% say people in other countries view the US unfavorably, and 71% say that the same people view the American people unfavorably…
First of all, how did those who were polled make the distinction?
Secondly, what assumptions did they make about the distinction made by “people in other countries�
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Just so you know… lots of people in other countries (at least the ones with some education) see the difference between the American Government (Bush et al) and the American people. Just as you should see the difference between… say… the Iraqi government and the Iraqi civilians.
Only freakin’ idiots (both in the US and everywhere else… and that also includes evil terr’ists) disregard the difference between governments and citizens.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:00 pmWhy should MnM get lost, CT? Was that a little too close for comfort?
Comment by Zooey
We’re not hurting the Iraqi people. For the most part, they’re only hurting themselves. U.S. forces aren’t strapping bombs onto their belts and causing daily mayhem. Those suicide bombing are the source to the problems caused in Iraq because the scare of them forces citizens live constant fear, and that prevents them from being productive, causing “less jobs, less food, less water, less electricity, less safety..” Regular citizens aren’t afraid of a U.S troop swinging by.
The troops are not to blame, and your MnM idiot has nothing but talking-points to offer, doesn’t deserve a response. Saddam and his leftovers are to blame.
The Iraqis can continue to blow-up themselves and others or accept the kindness and generosity from our troops.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:00 pmComment by Luis M — July 5, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
I’m sorry.
I must have missed the words “US Government.”
Oh… that’s right!
The government isn’t mentioned!
July 5th, 2007 at 2:03 pmLOL – saw Argentina-US last week – scary performance by the men in Blue and White.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — July 5, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Didn’t see it, and the scoreline was disappointing, but the US was mostly represented by a second-tier squad, aside from Keller in goal. It’s tough when the domestic league plays in the summer and the clubs can’t spare their stars for extended periods, but the US really needs more experience against big-time teams like Argentina.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:06 pmWe’re not hurting the Iraqi people.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Cluster bombs, MOABs, depleted uranium, landmines, ethnical cleansing in “insurgent” cities, failing to provide security in mixed neighbourhoods, blowing infrasture, sewers, hospitals, failing to protect the museums and protecting the Oil Ministery, rampant corruption of the government, puppet government, failing to provide accomodation for refugees… and many, many other facts.
Gee, those ingrate Iraqis.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:07 pmCluster bombs, MOABs, depleted uranium, landmines, ethnical cleansing in “insurgent†cities, failing to provide security in mixed neighbourhoods, blowing infrasture, sewers, hospitals, failing to protect the museums and protecting the Oil Ministery, rampant corruption of the government, puppet government, failing to provide accomodation for refugees… and many, many other facts.
Gee, those ingrate Iraqis.
Comment by Evil Spaniard
July 5th, 2007 at 2:13 pm———————————————————————-
You talking about Hugo Chavez?
rampant corruption of the government
You talking about Hugo Chavez?
July 5th, 2007 at 2:13 pmYou talking about Hugo Chavez?
Comment by Flaco — July 5, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
The sound of one brain cell clapping.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:16 pmLook over there! Something completely irrelevant!
July 5th, 2007 at 2:16 pmThe sound of one brain cell clapping.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Well, thats pretty much the feature of evolution deniers.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:22 pmKeep bailing, trolls! You bring joy into our lives.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:30 pmHey I love Hugo Chavez.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:34 pmHe reminds me of my friends here at TP.
Now watch me comment on the irrelevant topic I introduced. Damn! I’m a one-man troll band! I should get a raise.
July 5th, 2007 at 2:44 pmhow i hate this evil chimp! Always so joyous and smiling and laughing while young people die out there! for what! Loser freak Bush hasn’t posted a single score ever since he stole and lied his way into the white house!!! What has this turd done right? Nothing! But at our expense he’s having a blast! Now he even gets to bend the rules and bail out his criminal cronies! How I hate u Chimp!!! Feels free to do EVERYTHING wrong and always gets away with it. May God unleash his wrath on you Chimp and your disgusting family. Crime disease and death will spread like wildfire! For all those who died on 9/11! AND THOSE WHO DIE ON A DAILY BASIS IN THIS CRIMINAL WAR IN IRAQ! ALL THESE DEATHS BECAUSE OF WHO? GW BUSH 9/11 has GW BUSH written all over it!!! Justice will make a comeback!
July 5th, 2007 at 3:09 pm“Health care. Debt. Deficits. Infrastructure. Energy Policy. Global Warming. Military readiness. National Parks. Homeland Security. Etc, etc…
Comment by Crump’s Brother — July 5, 2007″
It’s not the governments job to provide health care. What’s wrong with the infrastructure? Global warming? Spare me. What about our national parks? What do you mean etc, etc?
July 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pmComment by AmandaBlow — July 5, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
You’re a troll, right?
July 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pmWe are better than them and they are jealous.
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Damn you are a dope. I’ll take this a jest as it is too moronic to be anything else. Humility is a virtue stupid!
July 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWe are better than them and they are jealous.
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Exactly of what?
July 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pmPlease immediately send the other 18% to boot camp, they need to get over to Iraq right away because Bush said it’s hard but gonna work. Also, when they arrive in Iraq, they must take off their rose colored glasses, turn in their magic 8 balls, revoke their subscription to “SIMPLE RULES FOR WAR”, and finally spend every minute they are over there looking for those dam WMD’s. W and his nemesis DICK just no they are there so keep on looking, in the meantime the rest of the troops can come home. Especially, anyone who isn’t Republican because we all know they are cowards and traitors, THEREFORE THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO FIGHT. Now,, last but not least the 18% will receive a bill for their portion of the Iraq War, since they are the only ones still drinking the kool-aid.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:40 pmIt’s not the governments job to provide health care. What’s wrong with the infrastructure? Global warming? Spare me. What about our national parks? What do you mean etc, etc? Comment by michael — July 5, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
The government is “Of The People” in the United States. It’s their JOB to do whatever we say it is – st*pid Nazi Wingnut.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:45 pmHey I love Hugo Chavez.
He reminds me of my friends here at TP.
Comment by Flaco — July 5, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Whatever, Goebbels…
July 5th, 2007 at 3:45 pmComment by dbadass — July 5, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Comment by Evil Spaniard — July 5, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
They are also threatened that our superior culture will replace their inferior customs, so they instill hatred for us in their children with propaganda.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:52 pmThey are also threatened that our superior culture will replace their inferior customs, so they instill hatred for us in their children with propaganda. Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
Or your post could be projection – dum bass.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:00 pmI ain’t no snitch!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
Then quit COMPLAINING!
July 5th, 2007 at 4:36 pmThe Iraqis can continue to blow-up themselves and others or accept the kindness and generosity from our troops.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Jesus Christ, CT! Your post is the very definition of White Man’s Burden. Look it up and find out why your attitude is so f*cking wrong.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:39 pmJesus Christ, CT! Your post is the very definition of White Man’s Burden.
Actually, I’m not white at all. More of a swarthy brown really, with dark eyes and a big bent nose. Distinguishing marks: spear thrust in one side, holes in wrists and ankles. I get stopped at all the borders: “Hey you, flower child, are you taking the p*ss?”. **Sigh**
July 5th, 2007 at 4:42 pmI live in Mexico and just went to see a movie called “The Road to Guantanamo.”
Was this movie allowed to be shown in the United States?
Or have your freedoms been so thoroughly eroded that a dissident movie of this nature is no longer allowed to be seen?
July 5th, 2007 at 4:46 pm56 percent of Americans believe that the war in Iraq is distracting us from the war on terror.
There is no “war in Iraq.” That one was over awhile ago. Saddam is gone and has been replaced by an elected government.
The troops in Iraq are now fighting terrorists there.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:47 pmThe troops in Iraq are now fighting terrorists there.
Comment by muckdog — July 5, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
I think the Nazis said the same about France, Poland, Yugoslavia, Norway, Belgium…. you get the message.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:53 pmJesus Christ, CT! Your post is the very definition of White Man’s Burden. Look it up and find out why your attitude is so f*cking wrong.
Comment by Zooey
What the hell are you talking about? Why are you making excuses for the horrific acts commited by these idiots? Geez, these Iraqis are the problem, come to terms with it.
“White Man’s Burden” This isn’t a f*cking sociology course. I don’t reference propaganda to get the facts.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:54 pmHow many believe Dubya should quit? Besides KO and me?
July 5th, 2007 at 5:15 pmOr have your freedoms been so thoroughly eroded that a dissident movie of this nature is no longer allowed to be seen?
Comment by Sureño — July 5, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
Ha!
With all due respect.
That movie probably sucks, but nonetheless, if it would make a buck, they would show it here.
July 5th, 2007 at 5:20 pmThen quit COMPLAINING!
Comment by Zooey — July 5, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
I wasn’t complaining, I was exposing a Lefty coward.
July 5th, 2007 at 5:22 pmGee this must mean that the population understands the fact that you can’t fight terrorists with a freekin army!
So killing half a million Iraqis is supposed to make them like us eh? Using that logic, I think I’ll go punch a Neocon lover. They’ll thank me for sure!!!!
July 5th, 2007 at 5:37 pmI must have missed the words “US Government.â€
Oh… that’s right!
The government isn’t mentioned!
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
What, do you think they were talking about the United States as… what? The Territory? Beaches and mountains?
As I said… there’s a clear difference between talking about the United States and talking about the American people. For smart people, anyway.
July 5th, 2007 at 5:50 pmBush has what is called the Manuras Touch
Everything he touches turns to sh*t
July 5th, 2007 at 6:52 pmKey republicans like Sen. Lugar, Sen. Smith, Sen. Snowe, and Sen. Hagel and others have broken with this president over the war in Iraq. Most Americans are pessimistic because we have lost it. Even the White House no longer talks in terms of winning. The president himself says that we can’t stop the violence in Iraq. He cited Israel as a poor and inaccurate example. If we can’t stop the violence in Iraq then we should bring all combat forces home.
The war in Iraq has created more terrorists than there were before we invaded it. The real fight against terrorists is in Afghanistan, a war that has been largely ignored by this White House much to our detriment. Our presence in Iraq is fueling the terrorists, our presence is used as a recruiting tool due to the fact that we are seen as an occupying force by the Iraqis. This war has made us less safe. People view us unfavorably because we have abandoned the Geneva Conventions which keep our forces safe from torture.
Torture doesn’t work. It is immoral. Due to scandals like Abu Garaib and Gitmo we have lost our moral authority in the world. Our presence in Iraq has undermined our authority as a world leader. Because the rationale for the Iraq war was largely false in that there were no WMDs in Iraq we have lost our standing as a world leader. If we want to succeed and once again become a world leader we must set a deadline to get all combat troops out of Iraq.
July 5th, 2007 at 6:57 pmYou’ve had an a-hole Govenor of Texas and the CEO of Haliburton running the country for the past 6 + years. It would’ve been impossible for a different outcome. America has become Texas. We are the a-holes of the world.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:09 pm– 71 percent say people in other countries now view the American people unfavorably.
LMAO. Well there’s the reason you told us where this poll was “released” rather than just who conducted it.
Their opinion of what the rest of the world’s opinion is of them. How meaningful.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:53 pmGod Bless America! The best country in the world with the strongest and best military! These inflated and prob. inaccurate poll numbers matter little…the proof is that terrorists are being stopped because we are coming off stronger than liberals want, even if we are still weak because we’re not fighting this like a war! Heroes are American Soldiers, not Al Gore and Hillary.
Afterall, JFK said it best:
“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.”
-don’t you see that the parties have changed? A true Kennedy-Democrat is now a conservative!
Love,
July 5th, 2007 at 9:13 pmyour unwelcome Conservative (Neo-Con!)
GOD BLESS AMERICA! The best country in the world with the strongest and most powerfull military! These inflated and prob. inaccurate poll numbers matter little…the proof is that terrorists are being stopped because we are coming off stronger than liberals want, even if we are still weak because we’re not fighting this like a war! Heroes are American Soldiers, not Al Gore and Hillary.
Afterall, JFK said it best:
“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.â€
-don’t you see that the parties have changed? A true Kennedy-Democrat is now a conservative!
Love,
July 5th, 2007 at 9:14 pmyour unwelcome Conservative (Neo-Con!)
GOD BLESS AMERICA! The best country in the world with the strongest and most powerfull military! These inflated and prob. inaccurate poll numbers matter little…the proof is that terrorists are being stopped because we are coming off stronger than liberals want, even if we are still weak because we’re not fighting this like a war! Heroes are American Soldiers, not Al Gore and Hillary.
Afterall, JFK said it best:
“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.â€
-don’t you see that the parties have changed? A true Kennedy-Democrat is now a conservative!
Love,
July 5th, 2007 at 9:19 pmyour unwelcome Conservative (Neo-Con!)
According to a recent LA Times/Bloomberg poll, That says it all Left and Right Coast Fruits and Nuts , Perhaps they should have used a Moveon.org Poll it would have been 100% and equally biased and useless
July 6th, 2007 at 12:53 amAccording to a recent LA Times/Bloomberg poll, That says it all Left and Right Coast Fruits and Nuts , Perhaps they should have used a Moveon.org Poll it would have been 100% and equally biased and useless
Comment by FDR
Your long, run-on sentence makes little sense, F(atuous)D(eadbrain)R(epublican) aka EPA and a half a dozen other monikers. I realize you are a flunk-out from a good public school, but you should at least calm down before you start writing here, pitiful koolaid drinker.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:26 amLove,
your unwelcome Conservative (Neo-Con!)
Comment by American — July 5, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
Love,
your unwelcome Conservative (Neo-Con!)
Comment by American — July 5, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Love,
your unwelcome Conservative (Neo-Con!)
Comment by American — July 5, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Mr./Ms. Neo-Con,
July 6th, 2007 at 3:44 amHave you ever heard the expression “overkill?” Unlike redstate, which bans even the slightest criticism of the rightwing, TP welcomes and posts contrary views; but we really don’t need to see the same thing three times. Perhaps you’ve been spending too much time with dimwitted Bush-worshippers who need to be told something over and over before they absorb it. We don’t. And please don’t take the late JFK’s name in vain. He was nothing like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
They are also threatened that our superior culture will replace their inferior customs, so they instill hatred for us in their children with propaganda.
Comment by Mr. President — July 5, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
Yeah, and you’re not spewing propaganda. Superior culture? Not you, dimwit. And your culture is only Esparta redux. You know what other country based its culture in Espartans? Nazi Germany. You know what happened to Espartans and Nazi Germani short time after?
“Superior culture”. What a joke.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:06 amDoes Bush Really believe that he is doing something good? Does e not see that the WORLD is against this Invasion? We need to get this guy Bush out of there before he angers more world leaders and peoples. Now Putan is ready to aim warheads at us? Thanks for letting me rant. great site.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:12 amTorture doesn’t work. It is immoral
July 6th, 2007 at 11:29 amOf course, 95% of Americans believe in a supernatural deity, so what the heck is their opinion worth?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:24 pmIf 67% of the public believe that the Iraq War is increasing the number of terrorists, then it should be safe even for weenie politicians to speak out against the continuation of the war. The predictable attacks from the right that such politicians are soft on terrorism will not resonate very far. We are beginning to see a bit of movement in this direction by Republicans who face re-election contests in 2008. These previously gung-ho warmongers are beginning to realize that their pro-war positions are actually a liability. One can only hope that they will face staunch and articulate ant-war opponents who will eviscerate them for having supported such a destructive policy. Although their change of heart is better late than never, it is still late.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:42 pmI apologize for the 3-time post above….my comp had some sort of problem…but its okay that you can’t handle a little conservative opinion…I expected nothing more. Oh, and by the way I personally know no other conservatives that live in my area…SOUTHERN CALIFORINA, right out of LA! I also attend a LIBERAL private school….we just heard Ralph Nader speak. So please don’t tell me about Bush worshippers, since I have never spoken to any….besides, Bush isn’t a true conservative! I did not use JFK’s name in vain and I never tried to say that he was Bush or Cheney. I agree with JFK almost 100% of the time, unlike Bush. JFK was a strong (now conservative) leader, who knew how and why we needed to protect this great country.
I don’t understand your reasoning in calling me “dimwitted” and I find it funny that you assume I live in a “redstate”…if only. So please, I apologize for the “overkill/redundancy” (accident!) and you might want to think twice next time before you leap to mislead conclusions.
Love,
July 7th, 2007 at 7:39 pmMs. Neo-Con
George, King Midas in reverse. Everything he touches turns to crap.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:18 amThe cons here are so boring they would put coffee to sleep.