Soldiers in Iraq become U.S. citizens.
By on Jul 5th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Soldiers in Iraq become U.S. citizens.
Yesterday on the Fourth of July, 161 U.S. troops became naturalized American citizens. There were supposed to be 163 soldiers, but two were killed in the past month.
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My heart goes out to the families of those who did not make it. Hope our gov treats them right.
July 5th, 2007 at 9:56 amYou mean, like deporting them?
July 5th, 2007 at 10:00 am(sarcasm off)
July 5th, 2007 at 10:00 amMy heart goes out to the families of those who did not make it. Hope our gov treats them right.
Comment by Troll
Doubt it. If a govt needs a lot of troops, that means the govt doesnt care about the people. If they are sent to die for govts profit, whats good for those poor people?
July 5th, 2007 at 10:05 ambecoming a us citizen? i dont know if i’d be telling anyone that….
July 5th, 2007 at 10:05 amMy heart goes out to the families of those who did not make it. Hope our gov treats them right.
Comment by Troll
My heart goes out to the families of the dead as well, but I don’t assume our government will treat them according to the sacrifice of their son or daughter…..not anymore.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:10 amwar is hell
July 5th, 2007 at 10:12 amamazing that we let non-citizens fight our wars… we shift the rules around as we see fit, I guess…
July 5th, 2007 at 10:13 amGood for them. They earned it in the best way possible.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:14 amMy heart goes out to the families of those who did not make it. Hope our gov treats them right.
Comment by Troll — July 5, 2007 @ 9:56 am
Contractors returning home from Iraq with the same combat-related mental health problems that afflict American military personnel, “are largely left on their own to find care, and their problems often go ignored or are inadequately treated.†Many who file claims for treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder are denied coverage.
Spare your heart for the dead ones and open your wallet for the living veterans, even if they are mercenaries. They are your mercenaries, punk.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:15 amThey are your mercenaries, punk.
Comment by Evil Spaniard
Evil…my guess is that Troll is not that trollish. Just saying.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:18 amBesides, hundreds of mexicans fight the rich people´s war in order to get the citizenship. Sad. Not quite mercenaries.
amazing that we let non-citizens fight our wars… we shift the rules around as we see fit, I guess…
Comment by Pete Bogs — July 5, 2007 @ 10:13 am
In fact, I find it despicable. The 5-defermements and draft-dodgers warmongers flee from the wars, but sends foreing people (who deserves more than every one of them the USA nationality BEFORE enlisting the military) to kill and/or die for their security.
Really disgusting.
Like the ancient kings and emperors, sending the armys of slaves to fight for the richesses of the fat, slobby plutocrats.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:20 amGood for them. They earned it in the best way possible.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent
Are you kidding!?
July 5th, 2007 at 10:22 amamazing that we let non-citizens fight our war
Comment by Pete Bogs
We always have. They are able to enlist and serve and often they are ‘fast’tracked’ through the system for citizenship. Like any American, they are initially required to serve 8 years (4 active) and often choose to serve a full 20.
Zooey,
July 5th, 2007 at 10:23 amIt’s ok, I’m here on Darryl’s tax dollars today.
They are your mercenaries, punk.
Comment by Evil Spaniard
Evil…my guess is that Troll is not that trollish. Just saying.
Besides, hundreds of mexicans fight the rich people´s war in order to get the citizenship. Sad. Not quite mercenaries.
Guess you are right, Juan C.
Most surely
Good for them. They earned it in the best way possible.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent — July 5, 2007 @ 10:14 am
earns more my answer.
And, as I said, I find it really despicable. The USA has a disfunctional VISA program, and uses citizenship as a bone for these immigrant poor guys, that, at last, are more deserving of USA citizenship that many R’s born already there, and that have done nothing for its country.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:23 amLike the ancient kings and emperors, sending the armys of slaves to fight for the richesses of the fat, slobby plutocrats.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — July 5, 2007 @ 10:20 am
Exactly what the dems and repubs do every election. Neither party has any respect for the constitution, rule of law or justice. Humanity deserves better.
Government is the enemy.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:29 am“Today, according to the most recent statistics, there are roughly 30,000 non-citizens on active duty and another 11,000 in the reserves.”
July 5th, 2007 at 10:30 amGovernment is the enemy.
Comment by Troll — July 5, 2007 @ 10:29 am
Government WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY is the enemy.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:32 amGovernment WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY is the enemy.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — July 5, 2007 @ 10:32 am
Accountability is a farce on the federal level. We the people are sold a bill of goods that the other side will be more accountable yet when they achieve power they behave the same as the last bunch of liars. Yet we continue to chase the ever elusive carrot of just government, suckers that we are. And in the mean time the government gets larger and more powerful and those plutocrats laugh all the way to the bank.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:39 amZooey,
Maybe he’s trying to leave his cult….? —Or maybe they ran out of kool-aid? and someone told him that TP had more than enough to go around. lol
can you tell? I’m feelin’ kinda ornery.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:41 amcan you tell? I’m feelin’ kinda ornery.
Comment by SGT Higgins
I can tell! Maybe one day you’ll be “our Sgt Higgins?” Heh.
Drinking the kool-aid is quite appropriate in Daryll’s case, since that phrase originated with the horrifying Jim Jones cult mass suicide in the 70s.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:45 amBut but but if they become U.S. citizens, aren’t they just going to leave the military? Immigrants are supposed to do the jobs Americans won’t do, right?
July 5th, 2007 at 10:47 am“yet when they achieve power they behave the same as the last bunch of liars.”
you forgot the part about how when a certain party achieved power and held investigations, the other side screamed ‘witch hunt’ or ‘fishing expedition’; when that party gathered relevant testimony, the other side screamed ’show trials’; and when that party issued subpoenas, the other side ignored them.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:47 amI find this so very disgusting placing “blood” up for auction with an american citizen tag on same. This is just another reason why I call troops slaves and hostages of the occupant.
Blantant slaves.
Add the hours, no food, the spying, the murderers, the demands on the families, the extentsions, the wimp managment. This is plan and simple …………….. slavery!
July 5th, 2007 at 10:49 amNo human on earth should be abused in so many ways. ANd here I can tell you the truth, that the only ones that really DO CARE are democrats that support leaving the IED Land of hell. This is Vietnam repeat, only difference as one stated to me, it is in the SAND pits.
Elk
Maybe one day you’ll be “our Sgt Higgins?â€
I like to think I’m half ‘yours’ already. Some things I’m a bit more moderate/liberal on, but generally I lean right.
And yeah, Darryl could easily qualify as brainwashed….now if he would just translate that into soap&washed.
July 5th, 2007 at 10:50 am#21 – Well, I have found that the people that are as vocally opposed to equal rights for gays as Daryll has been have something to hide.
Maybe Daryll is realizing his “marriage” is an effort to hide his sexual attraction to men. ;-)
July 5th, 2007 at 10:51 amThe entire stems from not enough BLUE seats at the dinner table. We need more BLUE seats at the dinner table. All red ones need to be sent home now. Any red seats coming up for review in 2008, need to be pressured to leave. Get active. MAke a menu and check it twice for any possible thoughts for helping to remove any red chairs at the dinner table.
All Red Chairs in 2008 must be sent home. They are infected with serious diseases; like taking your money, food,gasoline, job security, stagnant wages, crumbles of education.
ELK
July 5th, 2007 at 10:56 am#26 – I have found that the people that are as vocally opposed to equal rights for gays as Daryll has been have something to hide.
really? beat it out of ‘em, did you? Snatch up a couple of “anti gay rights’ activists and torture ‘em for a bit? “I know what you’re hiding! just tell me and I’l let you go”
Oh, or did they voluntarily give you that information? “Oh, by the way, in case you’re wondering…I’m so opposed to equal rights for gays…because I AM one”. ?????????? That doesn’t even make sense. Who argues against rights for themselves?
July 5th, 2007 at 10:57 amMaybe Daryll is realizing his “marriage†is an effort to hide his sexual attraction to men. ;-)
Comment by Democrat Soldier
Hey Dem Soldier, I heard you’re moving. Where to?
I think Daryll has way more problems than his sexuality, but I’m certain all of his problems start with his sexuality. Poor Tiffany! :D
July 5th, 2007 at 10:58 amZoo,
They got out there and fought for our country, they secured our freedom. The least we could do is award them citizenship, because that’s the bravest way to earn it.
Anyhow, good morning to you. I hope you enjoyed the 4th.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:01 amI like to think I’m half ‘yours’ already. Some things I’m a bit more moderate/liberal on, but generally I lean right.
I tend to collect y’all right leaning liberals. :D You remind me of Hacker Bob, a Marine who comes here fairly often.
And yeah, Darryl could easily qualify as brainwashed….now if he would just translate that into soap&washed.
Comment by SGT Higgins
From the way Daryll talks, I think he scrubs with a wire brush every morning…..poor thing.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:01 amDon’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he ain’t gay as the ace of spades.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:01 amI just think that saying that those opposed to gay rights are only so because of their own sexuality is flawed reasoning.
They got out there and fought for our country, they secured our freedom. The least we could do is award them citizenship, because that’s the bravest way to earn it.
Yes: They are serving in our military and fighting in our war.
No: They are not securing our freedom — none of our people over there are securing any freedom, since our freedom is being eroded from within our own Executive Branch.
Yes: They certainly deserve citizenship.
Anyhow, good morning to you. I hope you enjoyed the 4th.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent
The 4th was nice, although quite hot. You?
July 5th, 2007 at 11:04 amIt is the same with every president the opposition launches investigations and the others circle the wagons.
It’s not red seat blue seat thats an illusion you have been programmed to believe like some religious fanatic. They are the same, the tension between them is a facade.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:05 amZooey,
July 5th, 2007 at 11:06 amI tend to collect y’all right leaning liberals. —- Oh, that’s not gonna go over too well with the Mrs. Can I be left-leaning conservative instead ofa right-leaning liberal? It’s cool, we’ll keep it between us.
I just think that saying that those opposed to gay rights are only so because of their own sexuality is flawed reasoning.
Comment by SGT Higgins
The comments about that derive from the highly-visible Ted Haggard sort of event. As a generalization, I think it’s absurd, but cases like Ted do tend to stick in the mind.
And, on an individual basis, closeted gay men really do over-protest their own heterosexuality.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:07 amDon’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he ain’t gay as the ace of spades.
I just think that saying that those opposed to gay rights are only so because of their own sexuality is flawed reasoning.
Comment by SGT Higgins
It’s the degree of opposition, not simply the opposition, Sarge. Psychologically, it’s been found that often those who are rabidly against something, such as homosexuality, are hiding a deep loathing and self hatred because they know deep down they are gay, or fear they are gay.
Look at Ted Haggard — he’s a perfect example of a self-loathing gay man.
Things don’t always make sense….
July 5th, 2007 at 11:09 amgummitch,
As a generalization, I think it’s absurd, but cases like Ted do tend to stick in the mind. —– Yeah, ok. I don’t have an answer for that one.
And, on an individual basis, closeted gay men really do over-protest their own heterosexuality. — But…but….I’m really NOT gay! (Although, I did just use the word ‘but’ twice in a row, damn!)
July 5th, 2007 at 11:10 amAnd, as I said, I find it really despicable. The USA has a disfunctional VISA program, and uses citizenship as a bone for these immigrant poor guys, that, at last, are more deserving of USA citizenship that many R’s born already there, and that have done nothing for its country.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — July 5, 2007 @ 10:23 am
I believe most Republicans to be worthy of citizenship in this country. And we can’t grant too many visas (especially work visas) because that creates “native poor guys” by driving down wages, etc., in general. Yes, there is labor-in-demand that immigrants would like meet, but I believe in a restrictive visa program. My own mother waited in line to come to this country in the 1980’s on a visa and continued to wait patiently to become a citizen in 1991.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:12 amI tend to collect y’all right leaning liberals. —- Oh, that’s not gonna go over too well with the Mrs. Can I be left-leaning conservative instead ofa right-leaning liberal? It’s cool, we’ll keep it between us.
Comment by SGT Higgins
Left-leaning conservative it is, Sarge. :D
July 5th, 2007 at 11:13 amZoo,
Look at Ted Haggard — he’s a perfect example of a self-loathing gay man.
Yeah, ok. But would it be more of an insult to ted haggard to comapre him to darryl?…or worse the other way around?
July 5th, 2007 at 11:13 amthey secured our freedom.
Comment by CT_V1, Dean of Dissent
This is the kind of propaganda that makes American look so DUMB around the world. From who those soldiers secured your freedom? Who planned to take your liberties away?
Do you remember when JFK said that Cuba was a threat to the US? I guess you or your parents really believed that. JFK even asked Mexico to support them in these invention. And the Mexican official told him: If I told the Mexicans that Cuba is a threat to them, 40 million Mexicans will laugh to death.
First the Nazis, then it was the commies, then Sandinistas, then illegal aliens, then Muslims… what a load of crap. A lot of enemies that threat your freedoms, yeah, right, meanwhile your corporations continue to pillage every single developing country in the world.
Your freedom…come on, when was the last time you have to fight for your freedom? I hate this BS.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:29 amYeah, ok. But would it be more of an insult to ted haggard to comapre him to darryl?…or worse the other way around?
Comment by SGT Higgins
That is a dilemma, Sarge. I think both would be equally confused….
July 5th, 2007 at 11:31 amYour freedom…come on, when was the last time you have to fight for your freedom? I hate this BS.
Comment by Juan C
Well said, Juan.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:32 amJuan,
Believe it or not, we are fighting for our freedoms right now. You think peoples freedoms were threatened after 9/11? You think some people feared getting into an airplane afraid it was going to get highjacked and rammed into a building? To me fighting for our freedom means we fight to live our lives how we want to. Free from fear.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:35 amTo me fighting for our freedom means we fight to live our lives how we want to. Free from fear.
Comment by Muckraker
I agree. Military based governments along history need to inspire fear to its citizens in order to get their economic goals flowing. Someone remebers the Jew threat against the Christian virtue of Fatherland? Or the Capitalist threat against the values of Communism? Its all the same with different flavors.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:42 amGovernment WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY is the enemy.
Comment by Evil Spaniard
The rules are made by the ruling class. The house always wins. When was the last time a rich guy had a life sentence?
July 5th, 2007 at 11:47 amJuan,
Explain what you mean by a military based government? We are a democracy, not like communist Russia dragging people from their homes in the middle of the night.
July 5th, 2007 at 11:50 amJuan,
When was the last time a rich guy commited a crime WORTHY of a life sentence?
July 5th, 2007 at 11:51 am“Explain what you mean by a military based government? We are a democracy, not like communist Russia dragging people from their homes in the middle of the night.”
Comment by Muckraker
Conflict Capitalism.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:03 pmLook it up.
To me fighting for our freedom means we fight to live our lives how we want to. Free from fear.
Comment by Muckraker
We’re not fighting for our freedom in Iraq. Do you actually think we are?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:09 pmOh, by the way, in case you’re wondering…I’m so opposed to equal rights for gays…because I AM oneâ€. ?????????? That doesn’t even make sense. Who argues against rights for themselves?
July 5th, 2007 at 12:15 pmComment by SGT Higgins
Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, and the rest of the loathsome self-haters, that’s who.
Equal rights for gays is a constitutional right, not one you determine.
When was the last time a rich guy commited a crime WORTHY of a life sentence?
Comment by Muckraker
Everyday since 2003…in Iraq. Read the newspaper.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:18 pmWhen was the last time a rich guy commited a crime WORTHY of a life sentence?
Comment by Muckraker
Ok, here ya go:
John DuPont murdered wrestler David Schultz, found guilty but mentally ill.
Jim Sullivan murdered his wife Lita, guilty of malice murder.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:20 pmExplain what you mean by a military based government? We are a democracy, not like communist Russia dragging people from their homes in the middle of the night.
Comment by Muckraker
A war economy based country. Just like Volkswagen supporting Hitler to invade Europe in order to sell more cars.
No, your govt doesnt need to explicitly take you out in the middle of the night. Just tells you that there is somebody that wants to blow you up everyday becuz he hates you for wearing trousers from the Gap.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:21 pmExplain what you mean by a military based government? We are a democracy, not like communist Russia dragging people from their homes in the middle of the night.
Comment by Muckraker
If we only knew how many have been so taken. The Patriot acts, the military commissions act etc. allow the government (read George Bush) to secretly and permanently “disappear” people.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:25 pm