Iraq war costs could top $1.4 trillion.
According to a new report by the non-partisan Congressional Research Service, “in the first half of this fiscal year, the Defense Department’s “average monthly obligations for contracts and pay is running about $12 billion per month, well above the $8.7 billion in FY2006.” Additionally, depending on troop levels, total funding could reach “about $980 billion to $1.4 trillion by 2017.”
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And universal health care would cost how much per year, roughly?
July 6th, 2007 at 8:40 pma.c.e…
trillions of dollars of war money…
neo-cons…
oil…
the
July 6th, 2007 at 8:40 pmJOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOoooOOOOoooOOOs…
Who was the guy in the Bush Administration who lost his job for saying it could cost 400 billion? and he was under by 300%.
Didn’t ol Donald say it would cost three billion the first year and then maybe 10 after that?
July 6th, 2007 at 8:47 pmwillyloman,
Right, but then again that senile old man didn’t get a single thing right about the war.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:50 pm…PROSECUTE ALL war profiteers…
…there’s a CLEAR paper trail…
…of NO-BID reconstruction, security, and general services contracts…
…leading right to the White(man’s) House…
….suburban, middle class, conned’self-servative America…
…DO YOU HAVE THE WILL…
…to bring these thieves to justice?
…or are you only interested in crack dealers and “illegal aliens”?
July 6th, 2007 at 8:51 pmDon’t worry. All that oil money will pay for the war. It won’t cost the American People a cent. Promise.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:52 pmIn the beginning the administration’s estimate was $76 million.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:56 pm…a.c.e…
no-bid contracts…
trillions of dollars…
Oil…
joooOooos…
July 6th, 2007 at 8:57 pm…
…
Crony capitalism and war profiteering: three generations of Bush family ties.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:58 pmand just think, the u.s. only spends whether it’s 1 billion or 10 billion
per year on something as important as education
that’s friggin between 1000 - 1500 times more whether it’s so called
to defend or destruct
but what i understand it really doesn’t matter whether we win or loose
because the goal is to give business to the bankers and put us into
debt forever
IT’S SO FRIGGIN CORRUPT IT’S ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU PUKE
THEN YOU WONDER WHY YOU CAN’T GET ANY SERVICES FOR THE 66%
YOU PAY……….
IT’S FRIGGIN RIGGED
LITERALLY A BUNCH OF HIGH CLASS THUGS
AND WHAT SERVICES WE DO GET IS LITERALLY
CORRUPTION TOPPLING OFF THE FRIGGIN GREASE DUMPS
SO YOU KNOW SOMEONE YOU CAN BRIBE FOR
A NICE FAT JUICY GOVERNMENT CONTRACT AND YOUR SET
WE THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER HAND GET FAR SUPERIOR SERVICE
AT FRIGGIN MCDONALD’S
WHAT KIND OF SERVICES ARE BEING RENDERED THOUGH…………
LIKE SMOOZING ON K STREET
LIKE THE TRUSTY TELEPHONE TO SOLICIT BRIBES
LIKE I’LL SCRATCH YOU AND YOU SMOOZE AND SCRATCH WITH ME
IN MY YACHT OR IN SCOTLAND OR OUR CORPORATE JET
DUDE WASHINGTON IS TOTALLY BOUGHT OUT, THAT’S WHY IT’S 1.4 TRILLION
DEFENSE IS CORRUPTED
HIGHEST CLASS HOUSE OF THE LAND IS TOTALLY CORRUPT
JUSTICE IS CORRUPT
TRUTH IS CORRUPTED
UTMOST INTEGRITY WISE ELDERS ALL FRIGGIN CORRUPTED
FDA… TOTALLY CORRUPTED
EVEN FRIGGIN SHELTER IS CORRUPTED
SO IS YOUR FOOD
AND SO IT SEEMS IS A GOOD CHUNK OF SOCIETY DUDE
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE POLITICAL CONNECTIONS
July 6th, 2007 at 8:58 pmAND LOTS OF MONEY TO BRIBED DUDE
Don’t forget Andrew Natrios telling Ted Kopple over and over that the War in Iraq would cost the American taxpayers $1.7 billion. You can watch Ted Kopple repeatedly ask him “Are you sure that $1.7 billion is high enough.” right here.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:00 pmIn the beginning the administration’s estimate was $76 million.
Comment by nofltwlt — July 6, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
The very first estimate was $1.7 billion. See my comment above.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:01 pm$1.4 trillion is chump change!
I’ve dropped more than that in Israel and just left it on the ground because I was too lazy to pick it up!
July 6th, 2007 at 9:04 pmInteresting. That’s actually a relatively small (
July 6th, 2007 at 9:06 pmTHESE POLITICAL LEECHES HAVE PUT THE AMERICAN FAMILY, EACH
AND EVERY AMERICAN FAMILY JUST ON PAST DEBT TO THE TUNE OF
$500,000 - 600,000
BECUASE OF ALL THE PREVIOUS POLITICAL HOODLUMS DUDE
YOU COULDN’T GET SERVICES IF YOU TRIED BECUASE IT’S SO FRIGGIN
RIGGED.
BASIC ESSENTIALS SUCH AS SHELTER AND HEALTHCARE, LITERALLY ALL
FRIGGIN RIGGED
SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL, ONE POLITICAL LEECH AFTER THE NEXT
LITERALLY IT’S A COMPLETE CESSPOOL OF FRIGGIN CROOKS
BECAUSE OF FAST SLICK SMOOTH SHIFTY EYED SWINDLERS
AND ALL THE SMOOZING AND ARM TWISTING AND SCRATCHIN ONE ANOTHER
LITERALLY A BUNCH OF FRIGGIN CRONY’S HITTIN OUR ELF’S POT DUDE
THAT’S WHY YOU AND I GET THE FRIGGIN GREASE PITS BECAUSE WE ARE
NOT INCLUDED IN THEIR HIGH CLASS “CLIQUE” DUDE,
THEY THRIVE ON POWER LITERALLY AS A BUNCH OF SWINDLERS DUDE
AND WHAT’S THE REAL VALUE OF THAT WAR… MINUS ALL THESE FRIGGIN
HOODLUM COMMISSIONS, PROBABLY AT MOST WHAT 50 BILLION, 100 BILLION
BUT ONCE ALL THESE HOODLUMS GET DONE WITH IT, IT’S FRIGGIN INFLATED
SOME 10 20 30 100 TIMES
NOW YOU WONDER WHY YOUR FAMILY OWES $500,000 ON PAST DEBT DUDE
I STAND STRONG…. LITERALLY HIGH CLASS HOODLUMS DUDE LIKE POLITICAL LEECHES AND SWINDLERS DUDE
JIMBO DUDE
ROCK SOLID TRUTH
JIMBO DUDE
ROCK SOLID INTEGRITY
NOW LETS GET TOGETHER AND DO SOME SMOOZING AND SCRATCHIN DUDE
July 6th, 2007 at 9:06 pmGah! got cut off. Small amount of the budget over that time, but highlights the bloated promises of a quick conflict we got fed.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:06 pmApparnetly my link didn’t work, so here you go.
http://spudgeboy.blogspot.com/2006/03/boondoggle.html
July 6th, 2007 at 9:09 pm$1.7 trillion, then when you add post-conflict medical care, national guard equiptment replacement, funding that little fire engine to put out all the fires all over the world because of our invasion and occupation….
July 6th, 2007 at 9:13 pmGah! got cut off. Small amount of the budget over that time, but highlights the bloated promises of a quick conflict we got fed.
Comment by James M. Jensen II — July 6, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Do you have any concept of how much a trillion is?
July 6th, 2007 at 9:13 pmLiberals said Saddam Hussein would always be in power. They were wrong.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:14 pmWe are the only country that spends 50% of our taxes on defense. Other countries take care of their people, UHC, not the MIC for others to rob.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:17 pmLiberals said Saddam Hussein would always be in power. They were wrong.
Comment by Mr. Cock — July 6, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Umm…which “liberals” said this?
And while your at it…could you give an explanation of your definition of “liberal”?
July 6th, 2007 at 9:17 pmDo you have any concept of how much a trillion is?
Comment by Mycelium — July 6, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
Off the cuff, that’s about 40 million Priuses.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:18 pmFunny how you all think the dems are the answer to the problem even when confronted with he truth that they are as much a part of the problem as repubs. That you can not come to grips with this fact is truly scary.
Can’t you see they all dem and rebub alike say or do whatever they need to to get elected and then screw us all?
Gore your “prophet†is as much in bed with Israel as any republican or he would have never chosen Joe as a running mate.
Clinton spoke out as loudly about the need to keep nuke out of the Iranians hands as Bush ever has.
Clinton sent us to war in Kosovo were there was no oil which we desperately need and our military is STILL there.
Under Clinton his inept and corrupt Reno led the attacks on Americans in Ruby Ridge and Waco. At least the initial invasion of Iraq went better than that.
Pelosi and Reid funded the war and renewed the Patriot Act.
All this and so much more but yet somehow you continue to repeat this absurd mantra that if we elect more of them things will change. Please wake up before it is to late.
Government is the enemy.
Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
July 6th, 2007 at 9:22 pmYES!!
Down with the US Government!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 6, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
July 6th, 2007 at 9:24 pmIraq war costs could top $1.4 trillion
Is this a “Conservative” estimate or a “Liberal” estimate?
Apparently, Conservatives forgot what ‘conservative’ means about the same time Bush was handed the presidency over six years ago. Nothing about the last six years has been truly conservative. Radically aggressive, yes; Conservative, not even close.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:24 pm“Liberals said Saddam Hussein would always be in power.”
Huh?
July 6th, 2007 at 9:26 pmCT and Mr President better start saving their pennies.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:27 pmOh, Clinton did it too.
Mr Rogers, he did it as well.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:28 pm“Funny how you all think the dems are the answer to the problem even when confronted with he truth that they are as much a part of the problem as repubs. That you can not come to grips with this fact is truly scary.”
Weird, Because this is plagerized from me, only you changed the places of repubs and dems.
See:
Funny how you all think the repubs are the answer to the problem even when confronted with he truth that they are as much a part of the problem as dems. That you can not come to grips with this fact is truly scary.
: )
You should know those you address before deciding what they think.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:29 pmCT and Mr President better start saving their pennies.
Comment by Zooey — July 6, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
Well, since they are the same person, he will have twice as much money.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:29 pmCT and Mr President better start saving their pennies.
Comment by Zooey
You mean instead of spending it al at the No Tell Motel so they can post naked watching each others’ every finger stroke. Oh that’s not their fingers, oops.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:30 pmComment by WaltTheMan — July 6, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
Somehow 40m Priuses don’t seem like too much…but…
http://viewfromthemeadow.com/billion.html
July 6th, 2007 at 9:31 pmSpudge
July 6th, 2007 at 9:35 pmI dont believe and have not said the Republicans are any more the solution than the Democrats. They are all corrupt.
I still remember the good ole’ days of the “small government” and “fiscal responsibility” conservatives.
Not to say anything of their “family values”.
Now that those “conservatives” have all but disappeared, they have left us holding the bag. And so, here we are, four years, several billion dollars, and countless deaths later, wondering how we will ever get out of this mess.
Thank you, Bush cultists, for the horrible chaos you were accomplices in creating. Thanks for nothing.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:39 pmWe all make mistakes Gregor and the only alternative was All Gore and his mate Joe. No use crying over spilt milk. Think the Dems can offer a real candidate this time? Maybe one who can win on values the repubs used to believe in and win on like “small government†and “fiscal responsibilityâ€. That would be a welcome change and a winning platform.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:47 pmTroll; They didn’t do to bad in 2006, did they? They just haven’t delivered on anything yet.
Small government? Thats what the Bushies are craving. Small government check writers for the Big Corporate Privatization schemes. More money, less service, no oversight. There is a word for corporate government. What is that word again?
July 6th, 2007 at 9:53 pmBy 2017?????
July 6th, 2007 at 9:54 pmMission accomplished?
What went wrong here? With three equal branches of government how did one, the executive, manage to get control of the budget and all that money for war? What is the point of being a democracy if a tyrant gets his way year after year. When do the other two branches wake up and say “no” the funding is wrong and illegal?
July 6th, 2007 at 9:57 pmGus
July 6th, 2007 at 10:00 pmThey could easily have not funded the war but they lacked the spine. They have betrayed us all.
remember when republicans were all for fiscal responsibility? What happened to them?
July 6th, 2007 at 10:05 pmAmerican love that fact that the Bush Administration is spending all this money on waste. American believe that it’s ok for the GOP to steal taxpayers money and leave hard working Americans with nothing. Look Bush took the soldiers money for medical care and after two days Americans had no problem letting our troops live like dogs and get no medical help. It’s more important that the Iraq people and the terrorist get the best health care. The price tag for the Bush Administration will be cost to 7 trillion dollars and yes it will be blamed on Bill Clinton.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:05 pmNow when the next President says taxes have to go up it will be blamed on the Democrats not one GOP will be blamed. Bush has successfully made Americans dumb and stupid who will follow idiots and just say what their told. Libby used taxpayers money to pay his criminal fine and Americans have no problem paying a convicted felon’s fines.
When do the other two branches wake up and say “no†the funding is wrong and illegal?
The day they really want to wake up. Right now the war is rallying people around them like they have never seen. The campaign money is coming in hand over fist for the Democrat candidates, there are no complaints about campaign finance issues this time, the small donors are all going to them. They have no real interest in ending the war, until after the election.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:08 pmThat’s cold Tundra.
Might be right as well.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:10 pmComment by hellinabucket — July 6, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
I think they are all playing watch the left hand with the war.
The conservatives will plan on a huge push in anti insurgent activity in the half year before the election (Which will result in less attacks and increased stability over there). “Find” Bin Laden and capture/put him on trial.
Their numbers will go up, the dems got the up front cash, everyone is happy, they meet for beer later and giggle.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:19 pm“Under Clinton his inept and corrupt Reno led the attacks on Americans in Ruby Ridge and Waco. At least the initial invasion of Iraq went better than that.”
I’ll give you Waco, but Ruby Ridge? That happened in August of 1992.
So how come Koresh didn’t just surrender to the ATF when they launched their initial raid? Why did he and his followers open fire on the ATF?
And lastly, should the feds have just left the Branch Davidians alone?
If it had been a raid on a crackhouse in South Central LA where the gangmembers opened fire on federal agents, and a number of children were killed, would there still be an outcry about rights violations, excessive force, and abuse of power?
July 6th, 2007 at 10:25 pmWho was the guy in the Bush Administration who lost his job for saying it could cost 400 billion? and he was under by 300%.
Comment by willyloman — July 6, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
It was Larry Lindsey, Bush’s chief economic advisor and an architect of Bush’s first tax cut. He said it would cost 200 billion. The neocons were outraged, and Lindsey was history.
Go ahead and defend that, trolls.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:30 pmLiberals said Saddam Hussein would always be in power. They were wrong.
Comment by Mr. Cock
Mr. Cock thinks he’s a di*k. He’s right… go figure.
(BTW, you complete ignoramus, “Libruls” said no such thing. if you’re going to come here and lie, better make sure your lies aren’t totally ridiculous…)
July 6th, 2007 at 10:31 pmComment by Tundra — July 6, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
The conservatives are the best thing for the continued dissruptions in Iraq. Instability is what the insurgents want and it’s whats pushing the privatized fleecing of billions.
I have no doubts that the aisles are crossed by some. I also firmly believe that they have lost sight of what is best for this country.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:33 pmAnd universal health care would cost how much per year, roughly?
By 2017? Probably double that $1.4 trillion, annually.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:39 pmAnd universal health care would cost how much per year, roughly?
Comment by BlueArkansas
But… but… universal health care breeds TERRORISTS, Mr. BlueArkansas. I heard it on Fox, it must be true!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 10:40 pmBy 2017? Probably double that $1.4 trillion, annually.
Comment by m12
And… and… it breeds TERRORISTS, too!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 10:41 pmThank you VerbalKint. i was somewhere in the ball park.
I was closer to his numbers than he was to 1.4 trillion. Maybe I could work for the White House.
Wait, there is the lobotomy clause. Oh well, back to WalMart
July 6th, 2007 at 10:41 pmat least we would know the number m12. Unlike the ever growing unpaid unthoughtout how to pay adventure in Iraq. Whose to say Iraq wont’ cost 3 times that much. Boys in the White House want to be there for 50 years. We have a burn rate of 12 billion a month. Do you really think 1.4 trillion is accurate?
Me neither but the last person to tell the asshats in power what it would cost he lost his job. No fear and smear going on here. Right, and Bush didn’t do coke.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:43 pmSomebody go back and get a shitload of zeroes!
July 6th, 2007 at 10:43 pmI wonder if these people try to threaten their children into doing what they say with the TERRORIST bit?
“Johny? You will want to clean up your room to make sure the TERRORISTS AREN’T IN THERE!”
“Sue. Eat your vegitables….OR THE TERRORISTS WIN!!!”
July 6th, 2007 at 10:44 pmRight, and Bush didn’t do coke.
Comment by hellinabucket
That’s right, pal. It was Pepsi, DIET Pepsi…
July 6th, 2007 at 10:51 pmSomebody go back and get a shitload of zeroes!
Comment by RUCerious
Is that the new name for trolls?
I wonder if CT and Mr President are pissed off that they’ll be paying for all this?
July 6th, 2007 at 10:53 pmGreat posts Tundra
Nice to see a bit of honest debate rather than troll feces. Although I often disagree with your views I’ve been a fan of your posts since you first started posting way back. Even debated you back then under a different forgotten handle (computer crash). I remember calling you a ditto-head for some Rush-like remarks though. Seems like you tuned that a$$wipe out long ago.
Gotta agree with you here.
Wonder what deal Pelosi cut with Bush/Darth to keep impeachment off the table?
July 6th, 2007 at 10:55 pmI wonder if CT and Mr President are pissed off that they’ll be paying for all this?
Comment by Zooey
If they ever sober up…
July 6th, 2007 at 10:55 pmIf they ever sober up…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Ritalin must be some good shit.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:56 pm“By 2017? Probably double that $1.4 trillion, annually.”
Comment by m12
Coming from the guy who didn’t know that his own graph about American compensation didn’t include the costs of employer health benefits, I’ll go with the experts’ opinions, thanks.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:57 pmSo? It’s just money. We can always print more.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:57 pmRitalin must be some good shit.
Comment by Zooey
I was thinkin’ more like Sterno, or Carbona in water, or glue in a paper bag… you know, the GOOD stuff…
July 6th, 2007 at 10:59 pmWe can always print more.
That’s what happened in the ’60s to finance the war on Vietnam. It caused the double-digit inflation of the ’70s.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:00 pmA friend of mine is the son of a military name tag/emblem maker.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:01 pmYou think maybe his dad just makes a living doing that?
He is a multi-millionaire.
Only pointing out how diversified the money is with this war thing.
That’s only a tiny little piece.
Just think of the enlightened fools who “design” anti-missle defense systems for unknownn, undeveloped, unproduced and unheard of (In other words they do not exist) giant flying threats coming from all directions.
Don’t want to go there?
That’s a hundred billion every year or so.
The scary part of that is: what would these people do if you shut down their operation and those loose brain cells were looking for work??
#66 Johns ~!
July 6th, 2007 at 11:02 pmThey’d be designing computer systems for the FBI that would never be implemented, after dumping $170 million or so.
I can’t wait to hear the trolls grandkids call them out on all the debt that’s piled up, that they’re gonna have to pay off…
“Grandad, you fu(kwad, what the fu(k were you thinking!
July 6th, 2007 at 11:04 pmOh, that’s right, you weren’t! Asshat!”
So? It’s just money. We can always print more.
Comment by KrissKross
Know which government office never closes? Runs 24hrs/day, even on Christmas?
The Bureau of Engraving. Those guys print new money every minute of every day of the yr.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:04 pmAs long as theyr’e not paying for schools, libraries, and road improvements they’ll be perfectly happy having their grandchildren pay for bombs, rockets, and toxic embassy buildings….
July 6th, 2007 at 11:05 pm“So? It’s just money. We can always print more.” Comment by KrissKross
Reminds me of a line from the old conspiracy novel, Illuminatus: The protagonist, Hagbard Celine, walks up to Wall Street traders as they are leaving the Exchange, offering them wads of cash, saying, “enjoy it while you can - by the time you die, it won’t be worth shit.”
July 6th, 2007 at 11:06 pmPaul Wolfowitz said the war would pay for itself. He was wrong. When Gen. Shinseki said that the Iraq war would cost billions of dollars he was fired. Bush owes the American people an explanation as to why this war has cost so much. And why he has been so wrong about how much it would cost.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:07 pm#72 and why he shouldn’t be impeached for gross negligence and mismanagement!
July 6th, 2007 at 11:08 pmThat’s some deferred tax increase. God Bless George Bush. He’s made sure we’ll all be paying the man for an eternity just so he can go down in history as a “war president.”
July 6th, 2007 at 11:09 pmComment by Probus — July 6, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
I posed that same question to my conservative brother recently and he immediately got angry stating that nobody would have known. This is one of their core faults and it’s also something they refuse to acknowledge. 5 years of supplemental funding without a single plan to pay for this is irresponsible and has damaged this country for years to come.
I said this earlier, What happened to the fiscally responsible republicans? Gone the way of the Dodo I suppose.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:13 pmAnd why he has been so wrong about how much it would cost.
Comment by Probus
Well outside the fact that Herr Brusch is one painfully dumb sack of doorknobs, I’ve read a couple of times over the last few yrs that the secret GOP “master plan” ** cough… cough…** is to run up such a huge deficit for the government tht it collapses, has to sell off all it’s “assets” (bye-bye national parks…), and retract permanently.
This was supposedly begun by Reagan, who, until Brusch came along, held the dubious distinction of running up the worst deficits in US history. Brushc is now BY FAR the big Weiner! He has run up a bigger debt than ALL prior presidents combined, including Ray-gun.
Sounds far-fetched? Look at what’s happening. Who was that sleaze from CA who got bounced out of Congress last fall - Pombo? Wasn’t he the one pushing to sell off parks?
July 6th, 2007 at 11:14 pmWhat to make of the bizarre echo signatures of Troll and Mr Pee in posts #24 and #25 respectively? I’m no techno-geek, but I took it as proof Mr Pee and Troll were one and the same.
It’s particularly sad when trolls need to converse with themselves.
BTW, m12, do you know if that $1.4 trillion includes the costs of treating the wounded veterans coming home? I suspect not. Now that’s socialized medicine that ain’t even necessary. No war, no wounded.
And with universal healthcare, you have something to show at the end of the day: a healthy public working hard to build a nation. What is war good for? Absolutely NOTHING. It’s pure waste and destruction. That $1.4 trillion has just been p!ssed away by neo-cons who believe the stupid fallacy of the broken shop window.
I know why the neo-cons are sh!tting bricks. There will be a massive inquiry in 2009 and dozens will be going down. How many White House officials have resigned so far this year? Rats leaving a sinking ship. And remember: one of Bush’s first presidential directives was sealing the papers of Reagan and Pappy Bush. A curious thing. Would we know of wrongdoing patterns had we’d been able to read what tricks this Gang Who Can’t Shoot Straight had been up to in 1987?
July 6th, 2007 at 11:25 pmAll wars are hideously expensive. They always have been. That’s why most people in other countries wonder why America always wants to go for the military solution. It makes no friends and it’s incredibly wasteful.
The Middle East has largely been a cash sinkhole ever since the failure to resolve the Six Day War. It’s never ended, really.
BTW, what was with the drunken Mr Pee trying to pick fights with a non-existent ace. I take it he can’t deal with ordinary folks, he needs an arch-nemesis.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:29 pmREMEMBER THIS?
Permanent repeal of the estate tax would cost more than $1 trillion over the first ten years in which its cost would be fully felt, 2012-2021.
This is a great time, for the upper 1 1/2%.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:35 pmWell, they should just confiscate any income over $500,000 and take a one time capital tax of 50% of all estates worth more than $100 million.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:47 pmI was thinkin’ more like Sterno, or Carbona in water, or glue in a paper bag… you know, the GOOD stuff…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
And you want me to take cheese from you….?
July 6th, 2007 at 11:48 pmOn topic, sort of.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:50 pmToday I heard a report of a retired general, Reagan’s former NSA chief, calling for no funding except for pullout, and impeachment for a veto of that. Was on the Hartman radio show today…
And you want me to take cheese from you….?
Comment by Zooey
Hey, like I said before, each slice is individually wrapped to ensure freshness… and besides, what I do on weekends is my business.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:58 pmI do believe that the trolls here have totally gone over the edge today. It is like reading from a psycho-paranoic’s diary.
It makes a Fellini movie seem like watching Bedtime for Bonzo (The Trolls favorite movie).
July 7th, 2007 at 12:06 amno funding except for pullout, and impeachment for a veto of that. Was on the Hartman radio show today…
Comment by RUCerious — July 6, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
It’d be cool if they’d pull that kind of hoohaw. I’d like to see, “You get us out now or we start Impeachment!”
July 7th, 2007 at 12:10 amJust make sure you start with Cheney.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:12 amHey, like I said before, each slice is individually wrapped to ensure freshness… and besides, what I do on weekends is my business.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I thought you were a bookkeeper!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:19 amToday I heard a report of a retired general, Reagan’s former NSA chief, calling for no funding except for pullout, and impeachment for a veto of that. Was on the Hartman radio show today…
Comment by RUCerious
There was a thread on that last night, RUC. NSA something.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:20 amAnd universal health care would cost how much per year, roughly?
Comment by BlueArkansas — July 6, 2007″
Who cares! It’s not the government’s responsibility or yours, to pay for someone else, to ensure their health! It’s their responsibility!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:33 amSent the bill to PNAC.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:33 amI thought you were a bookkeeper!
Comment by Zooey
I am, and all this talk of chile this and German beer that has finally gotten to me. Must… find… food…
Night all!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:34 am“There was a thread on that last night, RUC. NSA something.
Comment by Zooey — July 7, 2007″
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO, then it must be!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:34 am“Comment by Zooey — July 7″
When are you going to finally explain to all your liberal friends why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge? Can somebody help this child?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:36 amOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, then it must be!
Comment by michael
Information only halfwit. Simmer down.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:37 amWhen are you going to finally explain to all your liberal friends why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge? Can somebody help this child?
Comment by michael
I’m tired of you kicking your own ass in our so-called debates.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:38 amReturn to your compulsive masterbation….
Good night, TRoS.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:39 amzooey, when are you going to make an attempt to answer my question? Silence means you have no clue!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:39 amThe amounts suggested by BushCo in the runup to the war are on the Architects of the War page.
The 1.7 billion was for rebuilding. 50- 60 billion was estimated for the war.
Some of us had food stuff flying out of our noses when we heard the estimates. (Lesson, never listen to the news while eating).
Wars are financed by fiat money. Fiat = faux. Which is, in the electronic age, not even much paper. The Federal Reserve System, which is not actually part of the US Government - just a bunch of the biggest banks in the East Coast Financial District- loans the US Government the money. It doesn’t have the money, it just issues a Federal Reserve Note, the US Government enters that amount into their accounts, and it is added to the economy. Pretty nifty huh?
We end up paying for this through inflation. That’s why it hit double digits under Carter. Are you prepared for what it will get to soon?
WHY do CEOs need to make $400 million a year?
Doncha love GOP math?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:42 amtoasterhead where are you? When confronted with facts about the liberals stupid beliefs in global warming, you ran away!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:42 ammichael, see #95.
Continuing to post here confirms your stupidity.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:43 amAll of the predictions made my liberals about this war have been wrong.
There were not 900k refugees as they predicted.
They predicted we would go through whole batalians in one day, and they were wrong.
They claimed that 500,000 lives would be taken and they were wrong.
They claimed the Iraqi people wouldn’t draft a constitution, and they were wrong.
Liberals were wrong about everything about Iraq. They have no credibility on the issue.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:50 am“michael, see #95.
Continuing to post here confirms your stupidity.
Comment by Zooey — July 7, 2007″
zooey, most liberals are stupid but I have to make an exception for a few. And if those few view this blog, their faces must be crimson red when they read your responses! In short, you NEVER make a intelligent point! It appears to most adults that you have a mind of a 6th grader. Just look at your responses to me. You are your own worst enemy! I couldn’t have better ammunition to support my Conservative views! I say, look at the idiot zooey!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:51 amComment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 12:51 am
Hey, it’s Ann “Michael” Coulter, again.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:53 amIt’s James “Wayne” Carville. aka serpent head.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:55 ama intelligent point! Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 12:51 am
?????? Perhaps some of that 1.4 trillion could have been funneled into our education system.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:56 amMichael, see # 95
“Hey, it’s Ann “Michael†Coulter, again.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 7, 2007″
Were you trying to make an intelligent point?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:56 amWhen are you going to finally explain to all your liberal friends why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge? Can somebody help this child?
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Well, how about if you provide us with reliable links that answer that question since we appear unable (or unwilling) to do so.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:56 amI couldn’t have better ammunition to support my Conservative views! I say, look at the idiot zooey!
Comment by michael
You have pierced me to my soul, michael. How will I survive it?
**yawn**
July 7th, 2007 at 12:57 am“Perhaps some of that 1.4 trillion could have been funneled into our education system.
Michael, see # 95
Comment by Matt — July 7, 2007″
No thank you! Haven’t we wasted enough on your feel good education system?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:58 am“Well, how about if you provide us with reliable links that answer that question since we appear unable (or unwilling) to do so.”
Why can’t you answer the question? You supported John Kerry.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:59 am“You have pierced me to my soul, michael. How will I survive it?”
With your black heart, I’m sure you will survive.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:59 amWere you trying to make an intelligent point?
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 12:56 am
I’m just fascinated to discuss something with someone who thinks “VERY highly” of Ann Coulter, but who can’t possibly be Ann Coulter herself. Now could you?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:59 am“Were you trying to make an intelligent point?”
Remember Mike, these are liberals.
They are stupid as shit.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:00 amWell, how about if you provide us with reliable links that answer that question since we appear unable (or unwilling) to do so.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
I feel good about “unable.” You should have been there when he kicked his own ass in our “debate.” Priceless! Now he’s reverted to this Kerry bullshit.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:00 am“You have pierced me to my soul, michael. How will I survive it?
**yawn**
Comment by Zooey — July 7, 2007″
I thought you were going to bed? Obviously you hung around to see what I was going to throw at you and you are too inexperienced to counter. Oh well, some day you will grow up! And I guarantee you, you will be a Republican!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:01 am“I’m just fascinated to discuss something with someone who thinks “VERY highly†of Ann Coulter, but who can’t possibly be Ann Coulter herself.”
Ann Coulter is smart. Unlike you, serpent head.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:01 amWith your black heart, I’m sure you will survive.
Comment by Mr. Cock
I don’t believe we’ve been introduced…..
July 7th, 2007 at 1:01 amWhy can’t you answer the question? You supported John Kerry.
Comment by Mr. Cock — July 7, 2007 @ 12:59 am
What proof do you have that I “supported” John Kerry?
And how come you cannot provide the answer you ridicule us for not having?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:01 amNo thank you! Haven’t we wasted enough on your feel good education system?
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Oh, that’s right. And Mr. Rogers was evil.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:02 am“Remember Mike, these are liberals.
They are stupid as shit.
Comment by Mr. Cock — July 7, 2007″
I know. I just like playing with them!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:02 am“Now he’s reverted to this Kerry bullshit.”
Kerry shot himself in the ass to get a purple heart in Vietnam, and the Swift Boat vets exposed him for it.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:03 amWell, well, well.
If it isn’t Wayne “A Sophist” Schneider!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:03 amAnn Coulter is smart. Unlike you, serpent head.
Comment by Mr. Cock — July 7, 2007 @ 1:01 am
“Serpent head”? Where did that come from? And, as I am unfamiliar with why I should take offense at this, I choose not to.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:03 amhttp://discovermagazine.com/ 2007/ jun/ your-body-is-a-planet
Heres something to make Mr President think about
before he goes to bed
We may not realize it, but each one of us is a walking ecosystem. Minuscule, eight-legged Demodex mites nestle head down inside the follicles of the eyelashes, feasting unnoticed on skin cells.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:03 amWayne “A Sophist†Schneider
If he knew the answer, why would he ask?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:04 amMikey, zip up your pants, your mouse is showing.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:04 amI thought you were going to bed? Obviously you hung around to see what I was going to throw at you and you are too inexperienced to counter. Oh well, some day you will grow up! And I guarantee you, you will be a Republican!
Comment by michael
Actually, if you are able to track for two minutes, I was saying goodnight to another commenter who was going to bed. And even if I decided to stay up after saying goodnight, that’s my business, isn’t it?
Return to your compulsive masterbation…..
July 7th, 2007 at 1:04 am“What proof do you have that I “supported†John Kerry?”
You’re a dumb ass. What more proof do I need?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:05 am“You should have been there when he kicked his own ass in our “debate.â€
Comment by Zooey — July 7, 2007″
Do you mean the debate where I asked you to explain if CO2 contributes to global warming? Can’t wait for this answer!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:05 amKerry shot himself in the ass to get a purple heart in Vietnam, and the Swift Boat vets exposed him for it.
Comment by Mr. Cock
Prove it, Dick.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:05 am“I know. I just like playing with them!”
Me too! It’s like kicking retards.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:06 am““What proof do you have that I “supported†John Kerry?â€
You’re a dumb ass. What more proof do I need?
Comment by Mr. Cock — July 7, 2007″
Try to control your anger and profanity and act like an adult!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:06 am“Return to your compulsive masterbation…..”
Zoobey knows a lot about this subject.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:07 amDo you mean the debate where I asked you to explain if CO2 contributes to global warming? Can’t wait for this answer!
Comment by michael
I mean the debate where you couldn’t even follow basic instructions, and argued my point for me, kicking your own ass before I said a single word.
Thank you. It was quite satisfying.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:07 am““Serpent headâ€? Where did that come from? ”
Be quiet, serpent head. You’re annoying me.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:08 amZoobey knows a lot about this subject.
Comment by Mr. Cock
Well, ya gotta know michael. Mental, verbal, physical — it’s all wanking, all the time.
I have a feeling you know all about it…..
July 7th, 2007 at 1:09 am“Return to your compulsive masterbation…..
Comment by Zooey — July 7, 2007″
I know you are a child attending school at some level. When are you going to display some intelligence?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:09 amYou’re a dumb ass. What more proof do I need?
Comment by Mr. Cock — July 7, 2007 @ 1:05 am
Touche! Who could argue with classic logic like that?
I would like to ask you politely now to stay out of my conversation with michael, please.
michael, can you not please provide us with reliable links (not swiftboatvets, “reliable”) explaining the answer? If it pans out, then I guess your question might deserve an answer.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:09 am“I mean the debate where you couldn’t even follow basic instructions”
You’re a moron.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:10 am“Do you mean the debate where I asked you to explain if CO2 contributes to global warming? Can’t wait for this answer!
Comment by michael
Comment by Zooey — July 7, 2007″
When are you algore dumbo’s going to answer the above question zooey?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:11 amAll predictions ever made by libruls were wrong.
Libruls predicted man would never fly and they were wrong.
They predicted the NFL would never make it and they were wrong.
They predicted that milk would be proven to be poisonous and they were wrong.
They predicted that the sun would split into two and they were wrong about that, too.
Don’t worry which libruls said this. They ALL said it, or at least believed it. Libruls are all stupid and have never been right about a single thing. Every winner on Jeopardy! is a conservative. Libruls have no credibility on anything, not even on what they think.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:11 amI know you are a child attending school at some level. When are you going to display some intelligence?
Comment by michael
Oh, you know so much. How could anyone outwit you?
Well, my 19 years old son, who is smarter than you ever dreamed of being, wants to use the computer, so you will have to wank off with Mr Cock.
Tooooodles!!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:11 am“I would like to ask you politely now to stay out of my conversation with michael, please.”
Go f**k yourself, troll. You are a big supporter of John F’n Kerry. Explain why it took 5 years for him to get an honorable discharge.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:12 amGoodnight, Wayne.
Have fun playing with the smelly trollies!!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:12 amDon’t worry which libruls said this. They ALL said it, or at least believed it. Libruls are all stupid and have never been right about a single thing. Every winner on Jeopardy! is a conservative. Libruls have no credibility on anything, not even on what they think.
Comment by Mr Cock-Brain — July 7, 2007 @ 1:11 am
Does your interplanetary visa expire soon? How much longer will you be visiting this planet?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:13 amMr Cock, what kind of discharge is that oozing from your orifice?
Is it honorable?
It’s gross.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:13 am“Well, my 19 years old son, who is smarter than you ever dreamed of being, wants to use the computer”
What type of loser spends Saturday night with his mommy?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:14 am“michael, can you not please provide us with reliable links (not swiftboatvets, “reliableâ€) explaining the answer? If it pans out, then I guess your question might deserve an answer.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 7, 2007″
There have been a lot of topics on this thread. What do you want a link to? If it is why did it take kerry 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge, I don’t need to provide a link because I was in the Navy the same time kerry was and I got mine in 1 year!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:15 amComment by Mr. Cock — July 7, 2007 @ 1:12 am
And you are a liar. A sad, pathetic, incoherent, acerebralist liar.
I’d put you in my prayers, but I don’t want to.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:15 amArthur C, I got it from your wife.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:15 amWhat type of loser spends Saturday night with his mommy?
Comment by Mr. Cock
Well, he just dropped off his b*tches at the crack house, and needs to develop some new contacts. Do you mind?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:16 amMr Cock @ 12:50 am # 101
There were not 900k refugees as they predicted.
Yup, we were wrong:
They claimed that 500,000 lives would be taken and they were wrong.
The methodology in that study is what the US Government uses and teaches other countries to use for disaster calculations. Like tsunamis, earthquakes, war, etc.
They predicted we would go through whole batalians in one day, and they were wrong.
They claimed the Iraqi people wouldn’t draft a constitution, and they were wrong.
These claims were made by who and when? Not that the Iraqi constitution is working…
Liberals were wrong about everything about Iraq. They have no credibility on the issue.
Don’t you mean the Bush Administration?
- WMD
- Connection to 9/11
- Supporting and having connections with terrorists.
- Being greeted as liberators.
- The war would be over in no more than 6 months - we could bring our troops home.
Darn right we were wrong. We just weren’t wrong enough.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:16 amWhat the hell is John Kerry running for anyway, ya ginbreathing sap? Get yer head outta the past and outta yer bug-infested ass.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:16 amWhen are you algore dumbo’s going to answer the above question zooey?
Comment by michael
Man made C02 does not break down like natural C02. The problem is that the Carbon sinks (oceans are filling up). Solar Cycles are of course natural the excess carbon however is not. These are two seperate issues, please stop conflating them as one. Besides Jesus was Piscean, you know the two fishes? Water?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:17 amIf it is why did it take kerry 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge, I don’t need to provide a link because I was in the Navy the same time kerry was and I got mine in 1 year!
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 1:15 am
You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t consider that as “proof”, since you said nothing that could substantiate your claim.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:17 am“so you will have to wank off with Mr Cock.
Tooooodles!!
Comment by Zooey — July 7, 2007″
Do you realize how much your comments cheapen you character?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:18 amSeprent Head lies like a rug.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:18 amZooey,
What business is it of his what your son plans to do tomorrow night?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:18 amWhat type of loser spends Saturday night with his mommy?
Comment by Mr. Cock — July 7, 2007 @ 1:14 am
What type of loser thinks it’s Saturday night when it’s really Friday night/Saturday morning?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:19 am“Well, he just dropped off his b*tches at the crack house, and needs to develop some new contacts. Do you mind?”
Go back to surfing the web with your loser son.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:19 amI don’t need to provide a link because I was in the Navy the same time kerry was and I got mine in 1 year!
Comment by michael
Wheres Dick Cheneys medals?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:19 am#150: I got it from your wife.
That wasn’t my wife. That was Laura Bush.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:20 am”
You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t consider that as “proofâ€, since you said nothing that could substantiate your claim.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 7, 2007″
Nice side step! So then maybe you can provide a believable explanation why I got mine 4 years earlier then he did?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:20 am“Wheres Dick Cheneys medals?
Comment by Piscean — July 7, 2007″
What does that have to do with kerry, stupid?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:21 amMickey R. loves Barney Frank.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:21 amSeprent Head lies like a rug.
Comment by Mr. Cock
Serpent head. Well thats rather fishy. =)
Dont eat the shellfish!!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:21 amDo you realize how much your comments cheapen you character?
Comment by michael
Do you realize how much your opinion simply does not matter to me — or anyone?
Get over yourself. Mind your own business. Piss off.
Got it?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:22 am163: He said he doesn’t believe you, dumbass. Why would he? Have you said anything to prove you’re anything more than a blowhard poser? No.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:22 amNice side step! So then maybe you can provide a believable explanation why I got mine 4 years earlier then he did?
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 1:20 am
No more of a sidestep than your non-answer.
Since I was in the Air Force and not the Navy, and since I served about 15-20 years after he did, I wouldn’t know what the procedures for getting discharged were.
Were you an officer?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:22 am“That wasn’t my wife. That was Laura Bush.”
You’re a class act, shit for brains.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:22 amWhat does that have to do with kerry, stupid?
Comment by michael
What does Kerry have to do with war debt?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:23 amI ask you, what kind of person — other than a deeply closeted homosexual — would adopt the nickname “Mr. Cock”?
…
July 7th, 2007 at 1:23 amZooey,
What business is it of his what your son plans to do tomorrow night?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Damn, I missed that. :D
The b*tches are supposed to spend Friday nights downtown…..
Heh.
Goodnight, Wayne. :)
July 7th, 2007 at 1:23 am“michael, can you not please provide us with reliable links (not swiftboatvets, “reliableâ€) explaining the answer? If it pans out, then I guess your question might deserve an answer.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 7, 2007″
Michael is the one asking the question, and you ask him to provide a link explaining the answer????????
What kind evasive sophistry is that?!?!?!?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:24 amGet over yourself. Mind your own business. Piss off.
Got it?
————–
Don’t you have to change your son’s diaper?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:24 amYou’re a class act, shit for brains.
Coming from you, that’s… meaningless.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:24 amWhat does that have to do with kerry, stupid?
Comment by michael
Well, the way you talk, I figured Dick surely must have a medal if you voted for him. =)
July 7th, 2007 at 1:25 am“I ask you, what kind of person — other than a deeply closeted homosexual — would adopt the nickname “Mr. Cockâ€?”
Again, ask your wife. lol
July 7th, 2007 at 1:25 amWayne, Zooey — I kind of understand the strange appeal of toying with such unsophisticated specimens as michael and this aptly-named “Mr. Cock” but…
I mean, their preadolescent response patterns are fascinating in their own twisted way — but damn, you must feel like you’re trying to organize a roomful of chimpanzees without getting hit with the poo they’re flinging. Challenging, sure, but not likely to be very rewarding.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:25 am“What does Kerry have to do with war debt?
Comment by Piscean — July 7, 2007″
Absolutely nothing! But these threads end up in this stuff! You want to talk about war debt? Let’s go!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:26 am“Michael is the one asking the question, and you ask him to provide a link explaining the answer????????”
Wayne “Serpent Head” is not very bright.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:26 amMr. Cock loves… well, cock. Duh.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:28 amNO NO NO NO NO!!! You mean the neocons were actually completely full of sh*t and we, our children and our children’s children going to have to pay for this war??!! How could they have LIED?? They seemed so HONEST and KNOWLEDGEABLE!!
July 7th, 2007 at 1:28 amAbsolutely nothing! But these threads end up in this stuff! You want to talk about war debt? Let’s go!
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