Poll: 54 percent favor Cheney impeachment.
By on Jul 6th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Poll: 54 percent favor Cheney impeachment.
According to a recent poll taken by the American Research Group, “54% of American adults want the US House of Representatives to begin impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney, including 76% of Democrats, 17% of Republicans, and 51% of Independents. The same poll found 46% of voters in favor of the same thing for President George W. Bush, including 69% of Democrats, 13% of Republicans, and 50% of independents.”
UPDATE: More from Pollster.com.
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And what percent can find Kansas on the map?
July 6th, 2007 at 12:47 pmDon't mess with Dick!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:48 pmIt ain't going to happen! Dopes!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:48 pmAccording to Bush math, that's a mandate.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:49 pmDon’t mess with Dick!
Comment by Flaco — July 6, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Yeah, he'll f*ck you...big time. It's circumcision time!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:50 pm#
And what percent can find Kansas on the map?
Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Less than 2% of republicans.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:51 pmHoly mackeral! That's a significant number. Nancy Pelosi needs to take a look at this poll.
Question: If traitor Cheney gets impeached and little Bush pardons him, does that mean that Cheney can get his vp job back? Or will it be too late. The Republicans will have to appoint someone for the vp position.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:54 pmPlease... Numbers have a well-established liberal bias. :rolleyes:
July 6th, 2007 at 12:54 pmmore than 50% of independents, in both cases...
ruh-roh, republicans...them ain't liberals and moonbats, them's the non-partisans.
try and bluster yer way outta that one.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:55 pmDarth Cheney will survive. He's got all the right ingredients (Evil, Dark, manipulative techniques, power, and president's confidence) to brush aside all the forces against him. He is above the law! I am sure he must laugh at the pathetic attempts by powerless fools out there beating a drum.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:55 pmSTFU
And what percent can find Kansas on the map?
Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Less than 2% of republicans.
Comment by STFU — July 6, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
That was funny. Excellent response.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:56 pmAnd what percent can find Kansas on the map?
Comment by Troll
Are you saying that you think the American people are stupid. That's what you guys depend on isn't it?
July 6th, 2007 at 12:57 pmPosting from Calgary today, just wanted to point out what a GREAT place it is here - a country which still puts the needs and wants of it's citizenry above the politico BS. It's much easier to lead a productive, fulfilled life when you don't have to worry about your corrupt government EVERYDAY.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:00 pmNOW, can we impeach this scumbag, contemptuous SOB?
Don’t mess with Dick!
Comment by Flaco
Yeah, you should know.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:00 pm#
Don’t mess with Dick!
Comment by Flaco — July 6, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Don't talk with your mouth full of .......
July 6th, 2007 at 1:02 pmDon’t mess with Dick!
Comment by Flaco
It's not our problem if you're a slow learner.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:04 pmInteresting to note that the quoted poll was taken before Libby got his get out of jail free card. Be interesting to see what the numbers are now.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pmLet me know when the numbers reach 67%....you don't even have a majority!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pmImpeach . . convict . . tie to stake . . light fire fueled by automobile tires.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pmAh.
Impeachment.
My favorite, these days.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pmAnd 100% support castration and indefinite detention for 'Tom,' 'Not Canadian,' 'kluzu,' 'toasterhead,' 'STFU' and 'hellinabucket.'
July 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pmoops!
Ah.
Impeachment.
My favorite word, these days.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:07 pmCheney could commit murder on live television, and m12 would have no problem with it -- as long as it wasn't pay-per-view.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:07 pmLet me know when the numbers reach 67%….you don’t even have a majority!
Comment by m12 — July 6, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
uhhh...what?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:07 pmYawn.... I wish the Democrats didn't LIE to their base and would seek impeachment against President Bush. That would rally the GOP base like you've never seen!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:08 pmMr. Cheney is reaping the rewards for his remarkable actions. The citizenry of the United States of America are standing up and judging him and finding him sadly wanting. As Abraham Lincoln said, 'You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.'. Impeach Bush and Cheney and Save the Constitution.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:08 pmActually past science may prove that cheney will survive...... he has all the genetic characteristics and the behavior of a cockroach, and they have survived longer than anything on this planet!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pmI support impunching every loony liberal.
Go complain to the Department of White Mail Leadership.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pmahh yes, ct_v1, you are the standard bearer. those conservative values speaking strongly, yet again.
you're a real credit to your ideology.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:10 pmCT4
What is "White Mail Leadership"? Is that the opposite of blackmail leadership?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pmActually, it's going to be the Republican Party that is going to bring down Dick Cheney (possibly Bush,too) -- but to restore whatever shreds are left of the Party, a leading Republican will emerge to shout : "IMPEACH CHENEY"
July 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pmComment by lonesomerobot
That's right. Conservative ideology to protect ourselves and our families from the crazy likes of you through any means necessary.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:12 pmCheney be the great white whale they call "Moby Dick." Yahhhrrrr!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmLet me know when the numbers reach 67%….you don’t even have a majority!
Comment by m12
wow, the conservative math. in case you can't count to ten with your fingers, you've got five on your right hand (that's half, or 50%) and five on your left. .1% over 50% is a majority.
or as bush likes to think, a mandate.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmComment by upside00
It's the good opposite.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmThat’s right. Conservative ideology to protect ourselves and our families from the crazy likes of you through any means necessary.
Comment by CT_V1
Does paranoia run in your family? And any means necessary covers a lot of territory, care to elaborate?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:14 pmVery simply, here are the legal reasons to impeach cheney (and then bush). Check out the articles that apply to cheney's TRAITOR actions:
http://impeachcheney.org/
"IN VIOLATION OF HIS CONSTITUTIONAL DUTIES"
July 6th, 2007 at 1:14 pmIt's kind of funny but also quite sad to see the state of TP trolls today. It's like they're not even trying anymore.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pmwow, the conservative math. in case you can’t count to ten with your fingers, you’ve got five on your right hand (that’s half, or 50%) and five on your left. .1% over 50% is a majority.
or as bush likes to think, a mandate.
According to liberal math, 46% means the nation is demanding the impeachment of the President. Never mind that the founding fathers set the bar of impeachment at 2/3.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pmAnd where do you get the "CT4"? I believe that CT1 is clearly indicated.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pmIt’s the good opposite.
Comment by CT_V1
You mean like in the KKK or the Nazi Party?
As I thought, Thanks for clearing that up for us. It explains a LOT.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pm54% want Cheney gone. Nice. And that includes 51% of the independents . Niiice.
Hey, Pelosi, got your table fixed yet?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pmAnd 100% support castration and indefinite detention for ‘Tom,’ ‘Not Canadian,’ ‘kluzu,’ ‘toasterhead,’ ‘STFU’ and ‘hellinabucket.’
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
100% of the TP trolls, I take it?
Good! That's a sign I'm making progress. I think of it as the birth pangs of a new era in online political discussion.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pmThis poll is such a crock!
54% of Americans don't even know who Cheney is!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pmComment by Upside00
It's not paranoia. It's about simple protection from loons who have an agenda to turn this country into another Cuba or Venezuala.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pmCT_V1: Go take a pee break. Take your time. We promise not to talk about you while you're gone.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:18 pmComment by CT_V1
Too late puke.
I've got two, lovely, toddlers which I'm raising in the greatest of the Liberal traditions.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:19 pmCount me in!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:19 pmI mean, he shot an old man in the face. I'm just saying that anyone not competent enough to handle a shotgun shouldn't be one heartbeat away from being the head of our military. That's all.
And another thing, anyone who enjoys stocked hunts (where the land-owners raise the birds, then plant them all over the property, bound or otherwise engangled so they can't get away, then the hunter comes along and frees them, then they try to fly away and get shot by the "hunter") is not fit to be president. These are literally defenseless birds. This is not a hunt. This is an animal massacre. By the way, we're not talking about a few birds, we're talking about "shooting ducks and some 70 pen-raised pheasants" (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1159061,00.html). Seriously, this is a bad bad guy.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:19 pmComment by toasterhead
No, 100% of the police and military. They believe you're making progress in the area of advocating for a violent Islamo-Stalinist state and making their jobs tougher.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:19 pmIs Pelosi even listening?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:19 pmI'm very curious how this compares to the polls on impeaching Nixon shortly after he began asserting his own 'exeutive privelege' about the infamous tapes back in the day... Are there any?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:20 pmI hope they impeach Cheney actually. Bush can put him back in August via a recess appointment.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:20 pmHey, I've got a great idea! Let's impeach the whole administration! That way, we'll cripple the government and the American people will love us for doing that!
Morons.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:20 pmComment by Upside00
No, the good opposite, as I've stated. Know what the "good" means? It means opposite from blackmail leadership, or a Democratic wasteland administration.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:21 pmm12,
"According to liberal math, 46% means the nation is demanding the impeachment of the President. Never mind that the founding fathers set the bar of impeachment at 2/3."
And now for a dose of your own "two wrongs make it right" logic...
the polls didn't stop the Republicans from pursuing impeachment did it?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:21 pmDick is becoming impotent.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:21 pmBush will not let Dick go.
Impeach these criminals now.
Bring our boys home.
the thread, m12, is about impeaching cheney, which a majority favor according to this poll.
46%, while not a majority, is an extraordinarily high number. it's certainly far higher than wanted clinton impeached (his approval ratings were at their highest during the impeachment flap, he ended his term higher than he began, which hasn't happened going all the way back to truman).
2/3 is the bar for congress, not the populace. and more than 50% of independents favoring impeachment for both bush and cheney isn't exactly good news for republicans.
but go ahead, spin away. up is down, left is right, black is white. and most importantly to you whackjobs, wrong is right.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:22 pmAnd now for a dose of your own “two wrongs make it right†logic…
the polls didn’t stop the Republicans from pursuing impeachment did it?
It stopped it from succeeding.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:22 pmin the area of advocating for a violent Islamo-Stalinist state and making their jobs tougher.
Comment by CT_V1
Sounds like Shrub's new, violent Jihad recruiting ground, known as Iraq.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:22 pm100% of the police and military. They believe .......
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007
100%?? Wow! That's like.....all, right?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pmHey, dip, if you're gonna use numbers...make sure they're at least believable, even if they're not accurate.
Comment by Not Canadian
Then perhaps you should raise them in Canada or France, then. Sane, rational children in this country wouldn't care to play with them.
Hurry! It's best to teach "tolerance" at an early age!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pm46%, while not a majority, is an extraordinarily high number. it’s certainly far higher than wanted clinton impeached (his approval ratings were at their highest during the impeachment flap, he ended his term higher than he began, which hasn’t happened going all the way back to truman).
2/3 is the bar for congress, not the populace.
Congress is the branch designated to represent the populace. Relating the votes of 2/3 of Congress to 2/3 of the populace is quite a reasonable assertion.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:24 pmThe numbers for independent voters should have the Republicans quaking with fear. But David Broder and Andrea Mitchell will reassure everyone in Washington that hardly anyone outside of the Beltway has ever heard of any of this stuff, and is certain to not care about it anyway, except for the far left wing of the Democratic party and radical lefty bloggers.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:24 pmSo if Senate is in line with the American poeple they will not impeach as there will not be a 2/3 margin for impeachment.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:25 pmGo complain to the Department of White Mail Leadership.
Comment by GOT_VD? — July 6, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
See? Right there is living proof that the No Child Left Behind Act is NOT working!!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:25 pmMail?
since UPS is brown, and the United States Post Office is blue, I have no idea what the flip you're talking about!!!
Comment by Not Canadian
Hey, those Jihad Muslimshiteaters (tm) continue to blow themselves to smithereens. The president isn't detonating those bombs.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:25 pmNo, 100% of the police and military.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:25 pmoh, ct_v1, that's rich. you are 100% delusional. i would hate to live in your world of paranoia and fear.
No, 100% of the police and military. They believe you’re making progress in the area of advocating for a violent Islamo-Stalinist state and making their jobs tougher.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Violent Islamo-Stalinist state? I did not know that was part of my platform - thanks for the clarification! I always thought of myself as advocating a nonviolent religiously-tolerant responsive liberal democracy with a Keynesian economic approach, but details details...
Also - the bit about making police and military jobs tougher is very interesting, coming from the person who wants to put more guns on the street. Are you planning to arm the "good gangs" so they can help in the fight against the "bad gangs?" I hear that strategy's working wonderfully in al-Anbar!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:26 pmComment by CT_V1
Puke, when you're old enough to learn what your limp dingus is REALLY used for, hopefully, you'll be impotent, unable to procreate your in-bed race of "intellects".
July 6th, 2007 at 1:26 pmIt ain’t going to happen! Dopes!
Comment by michael — July 6, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Yes, michael, you are right, it isn't going to happen. But guess what, idiot? These same people will show up to vote in 2008. And what do you think they will do then? My bet is that they will punish the Republican party. It will be like in 2006 when it didn't matter how lame the Democrats were, people were voting for them expressly to vote against Republicans.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pmKansas? Where's Kansas???
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
BINGO!!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pmComment by SGT Higgins
Islamo-Stalinists are the ultimate enemy, go take it up with them.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pmOh, and Truman ended his term in the 20s, lonesome. But if you want a President who ended on a high note, you only need to return to Ronald Reagan. He left office in the 60s.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pmCongress is the branch designated to represent the populace. Relating the votes of 2/3 of Congress to 2/3 of the populace is quite a reasonable assertion.
so what were they during during the clinton impeachment, exactly? ohhh, that's right, listening to only their whackjob base.
by your own logic, what happened to clinton was unreasonable. thanks for admitting it.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:28 pmm12, no president, going back to truman, has left office with a higher approval rating than when he entered, except bill clinton.
sorry to shatter your reagan worship session.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:29 pmIslamo-Stalinists are the ultimate enemy
Comment by CT_V1
Oh crap! There's an ULTIMATE enemy?? It's not more of those Zombie Terrorists, is it? Man, those things creep me out, big time.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:29 pmPelosi won't be the one to necessarily lead this, being second in line to the presidency. She must remain absolutely impartial and hesitant so that it doesn't seem she's doing this as a power grab for herself. Hell, I'd be worried if she did start beating the drums because then I might begin to think i was wrong about her and all she wanted is power. I do, however, I want to hear more impeachment talk from Democrats NOT in the near line to the presidency!
Democrats are poised for a big win in '08 as it stands currently (obviously things may change as time passes - i hope not). The last thing we need is a crappy one year of President Pelosi to make the public vote for Guiliani! I'm not saying Pelosi wouldn't be spectacular, but you have to consider the possibility whereas now all that is happening is Republicans making bigger asses out of themselves and scapegoats that even the biggest moron can see through.
However, impeachment doesn't mean removal from power, only a statement of charges. Clinton was impeached, afterall. So let's start the impeachment proceedings, but let's be a little more restrained about the conviction. W serves the country better as a lame duck than removed.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:29 pmComment by toasterhead
I would like to put more guns in the hands of law-abiding people who wish to defend themselves. Don't mince my words, righteous loon. Liberal policies are effectively aiding street gangs.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!! Idiot.
Blame a conservative for your failures and stupid judgment!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pm#54 No straw man there, Cynicon.
Really lame.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmRelating the votes of 2/3 of Congress to 2/3 of the populace is quite a reasonable assertion.
Comment by m12
Uh, no. In the senate, it gives more weight to sparsely populated red states. So speaking of equal representation, a state with 26 million, whose senators vote to impeach, is equitably balanced by two senators from a state of 2 million? Hardly representative of the sentiments of the US populace as a whole.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:32 pmBush loves the Dick! Remember the Gukkert WH visits at night. Bush will pardon the Dick anyway.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:32 pmWe must impeach Bush and Cheney simultaniously. Tell everyone you know to call there elected officials. Take action now. It's we the people.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17109.htm
http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer?pagename=homepage&JServSessionIdr011=p27mywuzt1.app5b
It should be a great big wakeup call to the tools in the House and Senate, and maybe to Dubya too. Calls for Cheney's impeachment, with numbers in the stratosphere for Democrats and above the 50% majority for Independents (only Republicans standing faithfully behind their man, with a mere 17% favoring impeachment).
Let me remind you neocon tools about something. It's not the Liberal Democrats you have to worry about. It's us. Yes, the moderates and the independents, the guys who are Libertarian and Green, Constitutionalists and all those other little guys. Keep pissing us off. PLEASE. Even those of us who agree with your stated goals are going to break with you and join the Democrats, simply because you're NOT acting like a Law and Order and fiscal responsibility party. Oh, yeah, and libertarian leaning people hate your whole eyes in the bedroom schtick too.
Keep it up, guys. Keep it up.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:32 pmread it and weep, m12
July 6th, 2007 at 1:32 pmI figured by now Mr "Outraged by the Outrage" would be consumed trying to decide weather to refocus his state from wheat to cactus. Or maybe catfish. Hard to guage.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:33 pmI didn't know that name-jacking was part of debate. It looks that you've officially confirmed the report: "Account of Overrated Libetrolls, Version 1"
Libecrats, you don't have a case. Get it through your concrete-filled skulls.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:33 pmI think it is important to point out that not 54% of the voters favor impeachment, that number is 50%.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:34 pm"Islamo-Stalinists are the ultimate enemy"
Comment by CT_V1
You guys said the same thing about communism. How did that Domino Principle turn out, anyway? I wasn't paying attention; did they take over all of Asia?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:35 pmIslamo-Stalinists are the ultimate enemy, go take it up with them.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Thank God. I've been worried just sick about the Islamo-Stalinists from Beyond the Tomb. It is such a relief to only have to worry about the regular kind. So how's by you? Geez, it seems like ages. They grow up so quick...
July 6th, 2007 at 1:35 pmThe tipping balance has been breached with a 4% over midline....guess this thug is finally going to get the royal heave!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:35 pmand reagan left office below the 60s. clinton was higher. sorry to burst your bubble, m12.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:36 pmWE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
This is what we did 231 years and 2 days ago, we declared our independence from a tyrannical King.
Today, this thread is flooded with those who would return us to those days, and support a President and Vice President who would crumple up the Constitution and throw it in the fire like so much trash.
ANYONE who supports such actions are not true Americans, and do not deserve the call themselves such.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:37 pmThe public outing of the call gir's records will be Cheney's final straw....then we find out what Pam Williford was doing by his side instead of Lynne Cheney when he shot his friend's face off in a drunken stupor.
It's these kind of "critical activities" which america seems to need to move them toward impeachment.....after all, isn't it more important to know what the Dick is doing and where he's doing it than lying overtly and repeatedly in the faces of the american people??
July 6th, 2007 at 1:37 pmRepresitive Anthony Weiner (D, NY) will introduce a Motion of Censure against George W. Bush when Congress re-convienes! It was listed a little while ago on the Huffington Post. Here's hoping that Congress goes with the rule of law! In the words of Andrew Jackson, 'One man with courage makes a majority'. I've included the link. Read it and be proud to be an American.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:38 pmIslamo-Stalinists are the ultimate enemy
Comment by CT_V1
Oh crap! There’s an ULTIMATE enemy?? It’s not more of those Zombie Terrorists, is it? Man, those things creep me out, big time.
Comment by SGT Higgins
This is what you get when your trolls are "educated" by video games. "Ultimate Fighting Warrior V1_the Islamo-Stalinists". Coming to a game store near you.
They also "think" in binary terms: either/or.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:38 pmI think it is important to point out that not 54% of the voters favor impeachment, that number is 50%.
Comment by wow!
lipstick on a pig, wow, lipstick on a pig.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pmJeremy: I'm an independent who is with you 100%. It's up to us to determine who gets to stay and who gets the boot. These "sycophantic pathetic 'tools'" in Congress need to get that straight. They need not fear the Dems as much as they need to worry about the Independents. We're watching each and every one of them very, very closely these days. And we fully intend to hold their feet to the fire if they want to continue to remain in their coveted positions.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pmThese are Dark Days for American politics.
With basically thugs at the helm and a overwhelmingly "bought and sold" Congress : I fear for this country.
Since and including 9/11 this country has been sold a bad sale of goods and ever since Chimpy and his Cohorts in Crime have been duped into this phony baloney war on terror instead it's all about expaning the military, greed and hegemony.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pmComment by dbadass/barfly
Typical terror-protectionist responses.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pmI support "impunching" every loony liberal.
Go complain to the Department of White "Mail" Leadership.
Comment by CT_V1
Ohhhh, you are soooo smart.....I am amazed that you even know how to breath much less spell something correctly.
CT_V1 is one of the repukes who couldn't find Kansas on the map.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:40 pmoops!
duped us into this phony baloney war on terror instead it’s all about expanding the military, greed and hegemony
July 6th, 2007 at 1:41 pmI'd venture to guess that the error of margin in this pool is predicated on the people who ran it. The climate in this country is beginning to feel like an "impeachment feeding frenzy" so I believe that 54% is a rather conservative, if not intentionally skewed, figure.
How does this compute when this Dick only has a poll number in the high teens? This number is bogus and, in reality, is much, much higher.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:41 pmand reagan left office below the 60s. clinton was higher. sorry to burst your bubble, m12.
Comment by lonesomerobot
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/polls/l/bl_historical_approval.htm
Actually Reagan was at 64% and Clinton was at 65% at the end of terms. Considering that most polls have a +/- of 2-3 percent looks like they were pretty even.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:41 pmread it and weep, m12
Comment by lonesomerobot
Great link and particularly since it's from an irrefutably rightwing source. I've bookmarked for future reference, because the trolls here will trot out the same discredited numbers somewhere down the line.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:41 pmComment by lonesomerobot — July 6, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
Did you notice? Only W started lower than his predecessor finished.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:41 pmlipstick on a pig, wow, lipstick on a pig.
Comment by lonesomerobot
Is 50% the majority of Americans?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:42 pmIslamo-Stalinists are the ultimate enemy, go take it up with them.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
So does this mean that al-Qa'ida and the former Soviet Union have settled their differences and teamed up? I wonder what the kickoff meeting was like... "Sorry about that whole Afghanistan mess, ya habibi - let's be friends now." Amazing! I never thought they'd settle that whole ultra-religious/anti-religious divide.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWith m12, CT and a few others, it is proof that 100% of the trolls here are certifiably WACKO!!!! (Not to mention paranoid).
I guess the BushCo Kool-aid enemas have finally wiped out the last vestiges of troll intelligence.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:43 pmKatie: What the people failed to understand is that this cadre of criminals actually have a fascist philosophy which they are accomplishing while the people have been lulled into complacency believing the "master lie" that this government cares one iota for it's people. That's where the public went wrong.
To prove how insidiously propagandized this country is, just do your own legwork on an issue and then read what the media whores spin about it. It's not even the same issue when they get finished with it. Right there each individual learns that they can believe nothing....especially things emanating from the white house these days. They're actually the biggest shapeshifters and liars of all.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:43 pm"and reagan left office below the 60s. clinton was higher. sorry to burst your bubble, m12."
And the only reason both Bushes' approval ratings shot up is because they both f*cked up by being too lazy, and then by capitalizing on the situation they both created; like father, like son. Bush senior, by letting April Glaspie tell Saddam we would't interfere if he invaded Kuwait, and Bush junior by being on vacation 40% of the time prior to 9/11.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:43 pmComment by Buck Fush
I intended the "Impunching" spin-off, it's not incorrect spelling. It's my invention to whip a hippe into shape.
Learn to read, Butt Slush.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:43 pmgummitch -
“Ultimate Fighting Warrior V1_the Islamo-Stalinistsâ€. --- You think that's' bad? Wait til the movie comes out....and you just KNOW it'll have sequels.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:44 pm#108 And since most trolls think with their anus', the enema actually is the procedure of choice...nyuk...nyuk
July 6th, 2007 at 1:44 pmComment by Upside00
I'm just paranoid. Terrorism doesn't exist, as you claim.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:44 pmAnd when he's not officially "on vacation", he's mentally on vacation the rest of the time.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI regards to the WSJ article about approval ratings.
I find the ones with lots of big swings of up and downs the most concerning. I feel that illustrates instability, and possibly superficial attempts to improve the public's opinion, short lived spikes of perceptions of improvements. Funny under HW Bush, the poor and jobless rose quite a bit. Not surprised at all.
Clinton's was most stable, even under the impeachment hearing. LOL
July 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmActually Reagan was at 64% and Clinton was at 65% at the end of terms. Considering that most polls have a +/- of 2-3 percent looks like they were pretty even.
Comment by wow!
The Wall Street Journal chart linked above uses a larger sample and has numbers that do not support your contention. And this is the Wall Street Journal, after all. Scarcely a liberal distortion.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI never thought they’d settle that whole ultra-religious/anti-religious divide.
Comment by toasterhead
It's jihadists from the seventh century, who've hijacked a time portal. Haven't you been paying attention?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmTrust nothing.....believe no one.....connect your own dots! It's all out there and thanks to people like Ace, we're discovering even more dots out there to connect.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pmI’m just paranoid. Terrorism doesn’t exist, as you claim.
Comment by CT_V1
Explain to the class YOUR vision of terrorism, please.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pmthe bad news for whack jobs is in the independent numbers for cheney impeachment:
Independents:
Approve - 51%
Disapprove - 29%
Undecided - 20%
1/5 of independents are still undecided on the question. those that want impeachment is likely to rise.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pmI’m just paranoid. Terrorism doesn’t exist
Comment by CT_V1
Well, you're half right! (That's the same as 50%)
July 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pm54%?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:48 pmDamned fringe lefties!
Next Tuesday when the Censure Vote is introduced against George W. Bush, the people will be taking serious names!! So forewarned is forearmed, Congress. We will hold you accountable and responsible for not upholding the laws of this country if you fail us this time. If this action is NOT censured, then we'd better open the prisons now and allow everyone behind bars their freedom because our "rule of law" in this country will finally be abolished....and anarchy will be the order of the day.
Remember Congressmen: We're taking names! And, we will impact your bid for re-election if you fail us.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pmI can see the scene now--it's the evening before Inauguration Day. Bush, Cheney and Roberts have been drinking all night. Now, at one hour until midnight they begin. Bush, having already signed a pardon for Cheney, officially resigns the presidency with Roberts as a witness. Cheney is hastily given the oath of office by Roberts. Just as it nears midnight, Cheney signs the hastily written pardon for Bush. They laugh heartily and do some lines in the Oval Office. Can't stay up too late--there's a plane to Dubai to catch tomorrow, after the festivities end.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:50 pmThe Wall Street Journal chart linked above uses a larger sample and has numbers that do not support your contention. And this is the Wall Street Journal, after all. Scarcely a liberal distortion.
Comment by gummitch
The link I provided above give ABC News as a source, is that a conservative distortion?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:50 pmyea right, m12. it sure took you a long time to find a poll that supported you. mine was from the wall street journal.
didn't think you'd have a problem with that.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:51 pm#121 And how does these pollsters confirm that one is actually an "independent"....it would be determined by how the question is asked, wouldn't it? This is where this poll goes bogus. All you have to do is visit some independent sites and you will see that the independents were the ones who brought the impeachment train into town in the first place.
This poll is bogus bull$hit! Of that I am 100% certain.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:51 pmlast post was to whackjob wow, my apologies to whackjob m12.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:52 pmAnd, regardless of any poll numbers, the Dick's personal rating is around 18% which means that he's getting the boot one way or the other. Once the Madam's records become public knowledge, he'll be heading for Paraguay, too.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:52 pmIt’s jihadists from the seventh century, who’ve hijacked a time portal. Haven’t you been paying attention?
Comment by barfly — July 6, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Oh no!!!
Begin the thawing of Tom Baker - only Dr. Who can save us now!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:52 pmThe link I provided above give ABC News as a source, is that a conservative distortion?
Comment by wow!
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/poll_clintonlegacy010117.html
July 6th, 2007 at 1:53 pmCheney, "fly my monkeys, fly!"
July 6th, 2007 at 1:53 pmwow!
"Actually Reagan was at 64% and Clinton was at 65% at the end of terms. Considering that most polls have a +/- of 2-3 percent looks like they were pretty even."
Here's some other data from the WSJ.
http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/06/presidential_ap.html
It shows a larger point spread than the one you found.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmI’m just paranoid. Terrorism doesn’t exist, as you claim.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
Oh, no - it most definitely exists. The Global War on Terror has guaranteed that it will only continue to grow as it has over the last six years.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmAppears George has a problem with his limp Dick.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmUh, no. In the senate, it gives more weight to sparsely populated red states. So speaking of equal representation, a state with 26 million, whose senators vote to impeach, is equitably balanced by two senators from a state of 2 million? Hardly representative of the sentiments of the US populace as a whole.
Yes, that is precisely the purpose of the Senate. The founders hardly had 'red states' and 'blue states' in mind when they crafted the document.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmButt Slush? isn't that Gannon's favorite summer drink?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pm"Begin the thawing of Tom Baker"
Not now, man! We need William Hartnell! He's had experience with Saladin, and they're best buds! Check out "the Crusade" on youtube before it's too late!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:56 pmBegin the thawing of Tom Baker - only Dr. Who can save us now!!!
Comment by toasterhead
He doesn't thaw, he regenerates! I have a Doctor Who DVD playing right now, so I'm an authority. :)
July 6th, 2007 at 1:56 pmNew series tonight......
July 6th, 2007 at 1:57 pmWell, CT_V1 it still doesn't make you any less of a Moron.
Do you notice that everything you post is just the stupidest crap on this thread?
And using the term "hippie" is just so...mmmm, 60's.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and go mow your lawn so your trailer trash neighbors can see those fine, rusted cars in your front lawn, dipsh!t.
FY CT_V1
July 6th, 2007 at 1:57 pmI’m just paranoid. Terrorism doesn’t exist, as you claim.
Comment by CT_V1
CT, we're still waiting for your vision of terrorism today......
July 6th, 2007 at 1:58 pmNew series tonight……
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
I'm still on Series 2. Rose..... *sniff*
Hoping to get Series 3 soon. ;)
July 6th, 2007 at 2:00 pmIt shows a larger point spread than the one you found.
Comment by Crump's Brother — July 6, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
I fail to see the relevance of debating whether one of two arbitrary presidents was more or less popular at an arbitrary point in time in an arbitrary poll.
Perhaps we should be discussing the current poll pertaining to this administrations' potential impeachment instead.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:01 pmBark, little dog, bark.
This administration is untouchable. Libby walks, Rove's not even fingered, the war goes on and dems are suffering from the beaten wife syndrome and refuse to use the only real tool in their arsenal. Beautiful.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:01 pmOff topic but noteworthy for those keeping track: Iraq War Soars to 12 Billion Per Month - Totally Outrageous! Imagine how many of our citizens could have adequate health care with that dinero?? Check it out:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/07/06/iraq-war-costs-soar-to-1_n_55184.html
July 6th, 2007 at 2:03 pm#146 - Bottom Boy
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/06/poll-54-percent-favor-cheney-impeachment/#comment-3913408
July 6th, 2007 at 2:04 pmAmazingly this clown could possibly win another term if he could run.
Wow, Americans are really stupid.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:04 pm#148: Fair enough, but that's merely your definition.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:05 pmIt shows a larger point spread than the one you found.
Comment by Crump's Brother
CBS News shows him at 68% at the end of his presidency.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/07/opinion/polls/main621632.shtml
"Asked if they approved or disapproved of the way Ronald Reagan handled his job as President since 1981, a CBS News/New York Times Poll conducted in January 1989 showed 68 percent of Americans approved. Just 26 percent disapproved. "
End of Reagan Administration 1/89
July 6th, 2007 at 2:06 pmApprove 68%
Disapprove 26%
Don't Know/NA 6%
Regardless of how much whining the right does, Cheney beats a turd in a punch bowl, and Fred Phelps at a gay pride parade, in popularity, though by a very narrow margin. I do think that Nancy and the dems need to get off their asses impeach both and restore sanity to our country.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:06 pm#148: Fair enough, but that’s merely your definition.
Comment by BottomBoy
As is your #146.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:07 pmI fail to see the relevance of debating whether one of two arbitrary presidents was more or less popular at an arbitrary point in time in an arbitrary poll.
Perhaps we should be discussing the current poll pertaining to this administrations’ potential impeachment instead.
Comment by erock
Then don't debate it, you don't have to debate every post you can just look past some of them if they do not interest you.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:08 pm#149: He does qualify for further vice presidencies, you know...
July 6th, 2007 at 2:08 pmAny republican dumb enough to pick Cheney as VP will go lose the election faster then you can say rightard!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:10 pmI’m still on Series 2. Rose….. *sniff*
Comment by Zooey — July 6, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
My daughter bawled her heart out, poor little soul.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:11 pm"He does qualify for further vice presidencies"
Oh, he's very well qualified as far as the vice bit goes - not as much for the presidency.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:11 pmIraq War Soars to 12 Billion Per Month
For that much dinero, we could erect a wall of reasonably-priced condos across the southern border, complete with strip malls, casinos, and themed waterparks. Call it, "Wonderland," or however you say it in spanish. Then watch Bush's polling numbers soar...
July 6th, 2007 at 2:12 pmThen don’t debate it, you don’t have to debate every post you can just look past some of them if they do not interest you.
Comment by wow! — July 6, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
Ok, here's my contribution:
Stop derailing the topic at hand.
If you care to argue the merits or shortcomings of this poll, http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/24390 , then by all means proceed.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:12 pmBottomBoy is quick out of the gate to prove his complete lack of a moral compass. You are a credit to your party, BottomBoy.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by Zooey
Well, terrorism is a comprised of liberal-hopping bomb strappers and their socialist supporters. Denying its existence and mangling its words as if its the toughest definition to grapple requires a skill that only one could receive by majoring in sociology. Also, you have to blame conservatives for its existence.
That's terrorism and aiding terrorism.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pmWhat's up with these Republican Authoritarian Syndrome Sufferers (elephant ASS) still defending the undeniable disaster known as the Bush administration. These are war profiteers and pillagers of the treasury. Treasonous greedy bastards undermining our constitution and unrepentant war criminals. The only difference between Hitler and Bush are the numbers killed. Yes it is that simple. To think otherwise is illogical, unpatriotic ignorance, irresponsible thinking goosesteppers. Seig Hiel Y'all elephant ASS. Wake up! We are not out of this yet. Bush can still call for Marshall Law and then you will be sorry.
The Constitution can't defend itself. The people must act -- Impeach Bush!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:14 pmIslamo-Stalinist Muslimshiteating (tm) believers, all of you.
Liberals are the cause/direct supporters of most terrorist activity.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:16 pm#160: A moral compass? So strange to hear a progressive speak in those terms. Sounds a lot like what a member of our oh-so-faithful lunatic religious fringe would call God's providence or law.
But both of us know that we weren't created by God. That also means that we're free to scrawl our own design on this morally blank world. There is no moral compass.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:17 pmI still think there is a possibility the Rethuglicans will finally see Darth as a major liability hence -- Dead-Eye Dick will resign due to a massive health scare (but still run the show). Of course, this "health scare" will be a total lie.
Chimpy will get some young, handsome, family-value oriented neoCON installed as Veep.
This person will become a house hold name and win the presidency in 2008.
This is the ultimate horror show.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:17 pmOk, here’s my contribution:
Stop derailing the topic at hand.
If you care to argue the merits or shortcomings of this poll, http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/24390 , then by all means proceed.
Comment by erock
I have already argued the merits/shortcomings of the poll, I did not derail the thread I responded to posts, it is not to far off to look at past presidents approval ratings in a thread dedicated to a poll about the vice president.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:18 pmSupport Kucinich's HR 333 to impeach Richard Cheney.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:18 pmWeeeellll,
He SHOULD be impeached. And JAILED. He is a TRAITOR to the USA,
as were Bush 41 and ME for our TREASONOUS Iran/Contra, along with pardoning an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST, Orlando Bosch.
And Junior, too.
Master Satan LOVES the PURE EVIL which are the Bushes and Cheneys, and promises the ALL a PERMANENT HOME with US!!!
Satan Bless the Bushes and Cheneys!
Treasonously yours,
Traitor Ronnie and my Master Satan
July 6th, 2007 at 2:25 pmComment by Butt Slush
Translation: "stupidist crap" claim by Mr. Slush = offensive to my imposing "progressivism" culture, or modern day version of a hippie.
Keep pushing the redneck stereotypes, buddy.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:25 pmI have already argued the merits/shortcomings of the poll, I did not derail the thread I responded to posts, it is not to far off to look at past presidents approval ratings in a thread dedicated to a poll about the vice president.
Comment by wow! — July 6, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Interesting that you make no effort to defend the vice president in light of these shocking poll numbers. Clearly you think it is sufficient to argue that Reagan was only marginally less popular than Clinton when each departed office. Yup...a sound argument against impeachment if I ever heard one.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:26 pmGet involved.
Sign the petition:
http://impeachcheney.org/petition.php
July 6th, 2007 at 2:33 pmDear activists, colleagues and friends,
That's right, we said the "I" word. And you should be saying it too -- to your family, your friends, your neighbors, your pets and the hearty 26% of Americans who somehow still believe the Bush/Cheney team more worthy of sitting in the Oval Office than an undisclosed location stripped of all authority to further damage the country we love.
1. Watch the video
2. Sign the petition
You'll want to say it even more after watching our video with the evidence for impeachment right there: http://impeachcheney.org/?utm_source=rgemail
Dick Cheney has been a malevolent force on the checks and balances of American government for over six years. He has subverted government processes to lead us into this tragedy in Iraq, and is now seeking to do the same with Iran. Two countries, mind you, he did business with while CEO of Halliburton.
We are at an important moment in American history. For if we don't take action in light of the High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by one Richard Cheney, we might as well throw the word away. Because there will never be a time when it is more justified.
Sign the petition: http://impeachcheney.org/petition.php?utm_source=rgemail
14 representatives already support H. Res 333, the articles of Impeachment against Dick Cheney. Your signatures will be used to get other House members to to sign on. We are working with a substantial and growing coalition led by Democrats.com and AfterDowningStreet.org.
Let's make this travesty a turning point in our history. Please join us in restoring democratic principles to our government by IMPEACHING DICK CHENEY.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:33 pmif ya wanna talk poll numbers, how about bush hitting a new low (26%) in the most recent newsweek poll?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:34 pmin that newsweek poll, bush only gets the approval of 60% of republicans...
July 6th, 2007 at 2:36 pmHopefully the Democratic congress is paying attention. Maybe that will get them off their duff's. But, I don't want them to impeach Chaney and then allow Bush to install one of the people running for President in his place. If they impeach Chaney they either need to move on to impeaching Bush, or not confirm anyone that Bush nominates for VP until such time as they get around to impeaching Bush.
The right will scream that we are trying to install Nancy Pelosi as our President by not allowing Bush to replace Chaney with another neoCON Republic, and they will be right. The neoCON Republics have forfeited their right to run this country.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:37 pmNancy Pelosi has to feel a lot like Carl Albert did when the handwriting was on the wall for Spiro Agnew in 1973. SHE'S not going to be the one to push for impeachment, since if Cheney and Bush both go down, she winds up in the Oval Office. The driver here would have to be John Conyers, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. And if evidence of criminal activity gets any higher than it is now, he can no longer ignore it (it's actually too high to ignore now).
If the Republicans want to salvage their party, then Cheney would have to be impeached first, and then the new Repub veep would have to be somebody very Ford-like -- respected by both parties, untainted by the Bush/Cheney white house, and somebody people can accept as president (since Bush would likely be next). Nominations, anyone?
The other scenario (which would NOT be good for the Republican party) would be for no impeachment despite the pile of manure at 1600 getting higher and higher. Bush and Cheney limp to the finish line and leave office with approval ratings in the sub-basement. If this is the case, look for the GOP to get smacked with a tidal wave come November.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:40 pmInteresting that you make no effort to defend the vice president in light of these shocking poll numbers. Clearly you think it is sufficient to argue that Reagan was only marginally less popular than Clinton when each departed office. Yup…a sound argument against impeachment if I ever heard one.
Comment by erock
Only 50% of voters are in favor of impeachment, not enough to argue for impeachment. Not much of an issue.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:42 pmer, wow...how "much of an issue" was clinton's impeachment to you?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmbecause far less of the voting populace favored it then.
missmolly: A very good analysis.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmThe numbers are much higher than shown in the polls to impeach the administration, and their supremes, if necessary.
All Congress has to do is listen to the voices of their constituency.
Pelosi said she wouldn't put it on the table. Now, Baby, ... bring it on to the FLOOR! Let's do it sooner than later. There's plenty of evidence posted all over the internet!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmPS. There is a surge in trolls. They're in trouble! Big Time!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pmalso interesting in the newsweek poll, more men than women (60%-56%) think america is ready to elect a woman president...
July 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pmOnly 50% of voters are in favor of impeachment, not enough to argue for impeachment. Not much of an issue.
Comment by wow!
That's BEFORE they bring out the EVIDENCE that Bush and Cheney have been committing TREASONOUS acts against the Constitution...
THEN it will be like Nixon, and the Rapeublics will jump on the bandwagon to save their OWN azzes.
God Bless the Democrats and Subpoenas!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pmer, wow…how “much of an issue†was clinton’s impeachment to you?
because far less of the voting populace favored it then.
Comment by lonesomerobot
No, I never felt that Clinton should have been impeached.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pmOnly 50% of voters are in favor of impeachment, not enough to argue for impeachment. Not much of an issue.
Comment by wow! — July 6, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
And the fact that half of the registered voters (not to mention more than half of all sampled) favor impeachment isn't shocking to you? Let's not forget that these numbers will continue to grow as they have up until now. You should probably just face the fact that this is a failed administration in the eyes of the American people.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pmThat’s BEFORE they bring out the EVIDENCE that Bush and Cheney have been committing TREASONOUS acts against the Constitution…
THEN it will be like Nixon, and the Rapeublics will jump on the bandwagon to save their OWN azzes.
God Bless the Democrats and Subpoenas!!!
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Or when it comes out that he is not committing treasonous acts against the constitution the number will go down. Does making your posts bold make you feel more powerful?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmPelosi won't put impeachment on the table. She's a political shark. We needed a Speaker who had some courage to put their career on the line. Thats the problem; we have too many in elected office who see it as a career. That seems to stop courage cold.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:53 pmAnd the fact that half of the registered voters (not to mention more than half of all sampled) favor impeachment isn’t shocking to you? Let’s not forget that these numbers will continue to grow as they have up until now. You should probably just face the fact that this is a failed administration in the eyes of the American people.
Comment by erock
No it isn't shocking to me. They may grow, but at this point they are not high enough to go forward with impeachment procedings.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:54 pmFor impeachment you need one more "yes" vote in the House than the "no" votes. Then you have the investigations into their 101 impeachable crimes. Then you get more public outrage when they are revealed. Then maybe two-thirds of the Senate will vote Guilty. Aren't there 22 Repubs up for re-election and fearing for their jobs?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmIslamo-Stalinist Muslimshiteating â„¢ believers, all of you.
Liberals are the cause/direct supporters of most terrorist activity.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 6, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
So now we believe in the existence of Islamo-Stalinist Muslimshiteating? Something we didn't know existed until you brought it up in this thread. And now that we believe in it, we're the cause/supporters of bombings by Basque separatists and the like?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmOr when it comes out that he is not committing treasonous acts against the constitution the number will go down. Does making your posts bold make you feel more powerful?
Comment by wow!
ILLEGAL WARS
EXPOSING CIA covert SPIES whose job was watching WMD's
POLIICIZING the Justice Department
POLITICIZING the CIA
POLITICIZING EVERY part of the Federal Government
Claiming to be ABOVE THE LAW and not subject to OVERSIGHT.
Yup, PLENTY of TREASON. More to be FOUND.
Don't like BOLD???
TOO BAD, troll!
SUBPOENAS, IMPEACHMENT and JAIL for the Bush WAR CRIMINALS!!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmMaybe today is too soon. Maybe September when the surge still has not worked will not be too soon.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pmMissmolly,
With all due respect, if you get involved Bush and Cheney will be impeached. But time is running out. It must be done before another inside job of Pearl Harbor proportions.
What you really have to worry about and get informed about is Bush's capability to take over the government as stated in October 2006, Bush signed into law the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007. Quietly slipped into the law at the last minute, at the request of the Bush administration, were sections changing important legal principles, dating back 200 years, which limit the U.S. government's ability to use the military to intervene in domestic affairs. These changes would allow Bush, whenever he thinks it necessary, to institute martial law--under which the military takes direct control over civilian administration.
Sec. 1042 of the Act, "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," effectively overturns what is known as posse comitatus. The Posse Comitatus Act is a law, passed in 1878, that prohibits the use of the regular military within the U.S. borders. The original passage of the Posse Comitatus Act was a very reactionary move that sealed the betrayal of Black people after the Civil War and brought the period of Reconstruction to an end. It decreed that federal troops could no longer be used inside the former Confederate states to enforce the new legal rights of Black people. Black people were turned over to the armed police and Klansmen serving the southern plantation owners, and the long period of Jim Crow began.
"Paradoxically, preserving liberty may require the rule of a single leader--a dictator--willing to use those dreaded 'extraordinary measures,' which few know how, or are willing, to employ." -- Michael Ledeen, White House advisor and fellow of the American Enterprise Institute, "Machiavelli on Modern Leadership: Why Machiavelli's Iron Rules Are As Timely and Important Today As Five Centuries Ago"
"Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government." -- NewsMax, November 21, 2003
Well how safe is our Constitution now?
Is Bush capable? You bet your sweet ass he is. If he can murder knowingly without conscience while destroying a soverignty, this is a piece of cake. But only if the Military is behind him. Then effectively we become a BANANA REPUBLIC.
Scary schtufff!!! Take action! NOW!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pmILLEGAL WARS
EXPOSING CIA covert SPIES whose job was watching WMD’s
POLIICIZING the Justice Department
POLITICIZING the CIA
POLITICIZING EVERY part of the Federal Government
Claiming to be ABOVE THE LAW and not subject to OVERSIGHT.
Yup, PLENTY of TREASON. More to be FOUND.
Don’t like BOLD???
TOO BAD, troll!
SUBPOENAS, IMPEACHMENT and JAIL for the Bush WAR CRIMINALS!!
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
You are so cute, you have all the liberal talking points down and you bolded them to seem like a strong man. Congrats.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmNo it isn’t shocking to me. They may grow, but at this point they are not high enough to go forward with impeachment procedings.
Comment by wow! — July 6, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
So it is enough for you to know that impeachment is not currently possible to continue to defend this administration?
July 6th, 2007 at 3:00 pmRe: #162
SeaTeaVeeOne hates sociologists. Sounds like he didn't do too well in the subject. Probably because it requires an understanding of societies. Silly stuff like Stalin was not Muslim, and stuff like that.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:00 pmKatie - overturn democratic elections much? You are a pig for your comments.
As for impeachment, please proceed. I am confident that the Democrats are being politically smart by not seeking impeachment. I wish they would listen to you lunatics.
Impeachment proceedings leading up to the 2008 Election would be devastating to the 25% approval do nothing Congress. AND in the end, the right-wing majority on the Supreme Court will stop you anyway.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:01 pmleftcoast — July 6, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Please read the following:
Pelosi said she wouldn't put it on the Table. She would have to go back on her word if she did that.
HOWEVER, she did not say she would not bring it on to the FLOOR! Now's the time to SURGE her office without end until that happens!
Get it done!
July 6th, 2007 at 3:03 pmI, of course, meant by telephone, e-mails and a heck of a lot of picketing. Sorry, I don''t think in terms of violence. Didn't want anyone to take my previous post in the wrong context.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmTo Comment by You Don't Have the Votes
Hehehehehe We will have the votes, because we the people will demand the votes. The elephant ASS (Republican Authoritorian Syndrome Sufferers) have been wrong about everything in the last seven years. You are wrong now.
Only Marshall law will stop impeachment in the next eighteen months.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmSomeone ought to show this to the House leadership. According to Bush's standards, this is a mandate.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pm54% is still astonishingly low considering the number of high crimes and misdemeanors he has been involved in - it shows that 46% still don't believe it is worth impeaching him.
But certainly, the number of angry americans is growing - and the house leadership must stay on track. Investigate, and when the evidence is irrefutable, then charge.
Conyers, Waxman, Leahy -- they have to stay on course.
197. The Senate acts as jury in impeachment proceedings. The suprme court presides. The 25% approval ratings will get a nice boost when Congress finally carries out its mandate and uses its consitutional powers to stop these bastards.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:11 pm#198
Pelosi said she wouldn’t put it on the Table. She would have to go back on her word if she did that.
No. She was asked shortly before the '06 election about impeachment and she said it was off the table. That means not currently up for discussion. Nobody knew what it might do to the election if it was put in play at that time. The media couldn't be trusted not to help the GOP make some kind of political hay out of it.
Never did Pelosi say she wouldn't put it on the table. There's no promise for her to break. She's got enough to do with running the House. She's not the one who should champion the cause. If others are able to make some progress with it, she won't stand in their way. At some point, I'm sure she'd give the required nudge. But, stop blaming her for it. Last I heard there were 14 co-sponsors for Kucinich's resolution to impeach Cheney. If your congressman isn't one of those 14, then I think you've got some work to do.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:21 pmNot to berate niceness amongst anyone, but it was always "politicallly correctness" that was advocated by Bushies. Thereby, leaves a bad taste.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmIslamo-Stalinist Muslimshiteating â„¢ believers, all of you.
Liberals are the cause/direct supporters of most terrorist activity.
Comment by CT_V1
If the liberals are the cause of most terrorist activity, then you must be the effect.
I only hope you are not employed in any position of importance or where you might have influence over anyone. That is a truly scary thought, for anyone involved.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pmOn a very different note, I hope TP can join me in wishing a very happy 61st birthday to George Walker Bush!
July 6th, 2007 at 3:26 pmI guess you must work for Pelosi.
Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. She did say it was "off the table", big difference, huh? I blame them all for it, sweetheaert, and I AM doing my work. Not to worry.
Now you go out and find yourself a big old Republican to go off on.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pmComment by CT_V1
It is a well-established and deliberately unaddressed historical fact that the CIA created “radical Islam†and Islamic “terrorism†during the Cold War. It is also a documented fact that the US, its allies, and their intelligence agencies (CIA, Pakistan’s ISI, Britain’s MI-6, etc.) have -- from the 1970s to the present day -- continued to use and guide terrorist groups, including “Al-Qaeda,†as intelligence and propaganda assets. “Islamic terrorism†is a manufactured weapon of Western geostrategy, serving Anglo-American interests. We armed and helped Bin Laden fight the Soviets, and keep him alive today. Otherwise why is he still alive?
Planned covert operations and false flag operations using “terrorists†in direct and indirect military-intelligence roles are of imperial design. Such operations (exemplified by 9/11), and their predictable propaganda results (“the war on terrorismâ€) are now routine events.
Official “war on terrorism†disinformation is repeated ad nauseum, accepted as fact by the mass populace, and used as the justification for ever-expanding Anglo-American war and ever-deepening criminality. Virtually no attention is paid to the Anglo-American support and management of “Al-Qaeda†and other “terror†groups. Little or no attention is devoted to the criminally fabricated nature of modern “terrorism†or the fact that every major “terrorism†event in recent times has been a US or US-allied covert operation, followed by political manipulation and cover-up.
Educate your mind and read the rest of this article, Wake up CT-VI, wake up America
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=22824
July 6th, 2007 at 3:33 pm#197
Impeachment proceedings leading up to the 2008 Election would be devastating to the 25% approval do nothing Congress. AND in the end, the right-wing majority on the Supreme Court will stop you anyway.
You're a little confused. It was the 109th Congress that had the hard-earned reputation of being the "Do Nothing Congress". Don't insult Blunt, Boehner, Hastert, and DeLay by bestowing that honor on someone else. Those guys did as little as they possibly could and it wasn't easy. Unlike this 110th Congress, with all the passing of minimum wage increases and enacting the security measures and reforms called for years ago by the 9/11 Commission, etc., etc.
And, by the way, when you break down the polling numbers by party, the Dems are a lot higher than 25% and a lot higher than the GOP. In fact, the majority of Americans want the Dems in Congress to do more to change Bush's policies.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pmComment by upside00
I only hope that I can be employed to have influence over you. Then you could work lots of unpaid overtime.
And your personal projection doesn't count and doesn't cut it, Muslimshiteater (tm).
I forgot to mention: Liberals are the cause AND effect of all terror. Bum.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pmComment by dumbshit
Impeachment proceedings leading up to the 2008 Election would be devastating to the 25% approval do nothing Congress. AND in the end, the right-wing majority on the Supreme Court will stop you anyway.
The Supreme Court has no say in an impeachment proceeding. Please buy a copy of the Constitution and ingest it rectally, maybe it'll stick that way.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmComment by Upside00
And I hope you aren't in the position of hiring anybody, where you would probably accept only the applications of convicted terrorists and other violent criminals. I'm sure Bin Laden would be moving swiftly up the ranks under your tutelage.
Typical Islamo-Stalinist terrorist follower.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pm#208
Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. She did say it was “off the tableâ€, big difference, huh?
Yeah, actually there is a big difference between saying something is off the table and saying something is never going to be put on the table. I'm not driving my car right now. Does that mean I'm never going to drive again?
I blame them all for it, sweetheaert
Good for you, sugarbum. I'm sorry I messed up your misguided rant. By all means, please blame every single Democratic representative for things not going the way you wanted them. And, likewise, I'm going to blame you for not electing more Democrats and fewer Republicans.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:42 pmChimpeach, as you are answering every e-mail based on terminology, you are being disruptive to the bloggers. If you are truly in favor of impeachment you are aiding and abetting the Bush administration in your behavior. So, I wonder about you. However, not enough to prolong your presentation of the facts. Note: I used the words: "Your presentation of the facts." They do not speak well of your motives. I'm going out and leave you here to continue with anyone who will answer you. My opinion: You are a troll.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:45 pmYou are so cute, you have all the liberal talking points down and you bolded them to seem like a strong man. Congrats.
Comment by wow!
I guess if you equate the TRUTH with "Liberal Talking Points".
And that's OK, because I equate all the bullzhit and LIES from YOU and the other trolls as "RapubFascist Talking Points".
How PRECIOUS.
God Bless the Democrats and SUBPOENAS!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 3:52 pmI love all this hate speech from the party of family values!
July 6th, 2007 at 3:59 pmI guess if you equate the TRUTH with “Liberal Talking Pointsâ€.
And that’s OK, because I equate all the bullzhit and LIES from YOU and the other trolls as “RapubFascist Talking Pointsâ€.
How PRECIOUS.
God Bless the Democrats and SUBPOENAS!!!
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Your liberal talking points are nothing but manipulation of the facts. I would not expect anything else.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pmI love all this hate speech from the party of family values!
Comment by Wilco
If you mean the Rapeublics, like Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush, O'Dildo, etc., I agree.
PURE HATRED from the supposed "family values" Rapeublic party.
Here's some Bush "family values":
http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html
July 6th, 2007 at 4:12 pmSo it is enough for you to know that impeachment is not currently possible to continue to defend this administration?
Comment by erock
You have a hard time reading what somebody posts and retaining it. Just because many Americans have soured on him does not mean they are right. I don't agree with many things done by this administration, but nothing has been done to equal impeachment.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pmYour liberal talking points are nothing but manipulation of the facts. I would not expect anything else.
Comment by wow!
And YOUR Rapeublic talking points are nothing but LIES. I would not expect anything else...
God Bless the Democratic Party and SUBPOENAS!!
July 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pmMr Bush, you egg them on and encourage them by using similar language.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pmYou're just feeding the monkeys
Mr Bush, you egg them on and encourage them by using similar language.
You’re just feeding the monkeys
Comment by Wilco
I agree. If we REALLY want to PISS THEM OFF, keep telling them that their HERO and "god", Ronald Reagan,
was a TRAITOR to the USA, and is DEAD and in hell.
And that Bush 41 was the BIGGEST TRAITOR, pardoning INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST Orlando Bosch, as well as the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS to save Reagan's and Bush 41's azz...
So, yup, I'll keep to what REALLY pisses them off...
God Bless the Democratic Party and SUBPOENAS!
July 6th, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou have a hard time reading what somebody posts and retaining it. Just because many Americans have soured on him does not mean they are right. I don’t agree with many things done by this administration, but nothing has been done to equal impeachment.
Comment by wow! — July 6, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
And you have a hard time reconciling your party above country attitude with the concept of a democracy, representative or otherwise.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:25 pmReagan was a puss.
Well... I really don't know... well... well.... well.... always with the "wellll"
What a douche! Way to give those terrorists guns, douche!!
Well... Saddam will help us... well... lets give him chemical weapons... welll... im a fuktard...well
July 6th, 2007 at 4:27 pmCHENEY 2008!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 4:29 pmRonald Reagan was a TRAITOR to the USA, and is DEAD and in hell.
And that Bush 41 was the BIGGEST TRAITOR, pardoning INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST Orlando Bosch, as well as the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS to save Reagan’s and Bush 41’s azz…
And Marc Rich's LAWYER was TRAITOR & CONVICTED CRIMINAL Libby..
God Bless the Democratic Party and SUBPOENAS!
July 6th, 2007 at 4:37 pmAnd you have a hard time reconciling your party above country attitude with the concept of a democracy, representative or otherwise.
Comment by erock
We are not a democracy, Bush was elected twice (yes they were both legal elections) and he has not done anything treasonous as the left screams. He has done nothing that warrants impeachment and won't be impeached. The problem with the left is they would rather play us against them instead of protecting the country and trying to come up with solutions.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:38 pmRonald Reagan was a TRAITOR to the USA, and is DEAD and in hell.
And that Bush 41 was the BIGGEST TRAITOR, pardoning INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST Orlando Bosch, as well as the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS to save Reagan’s and Bush 41’s azz…
And Marc Rich’s LAWYER was TRAITOR & CONVICTED CRIMINAL Libby..
God Bless the Democratic Party and SUBPOENAS!
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Maybe one day you will see pass the d and r by a person's name and actually look at the facts. Keep posting in bold, it really does make you look more important and intelligent.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:40 pmMaybe one day you will see pass the d and r by a person’s name and actually look at the facts. Keep posting in bold, it really does make you look more important and intelligent.
Comment by wow!
I post the FACTS that I have gathered over 6 years.
You post TODAY'S talking points and LIES of the Rapeublics...
Ronald Reagan is DEAD and in HELL, and was a TRAITOR for Iran/Contra and so was Bush 41, who PARDONED the
Iran/Contra CRIMINALS and also TERRORIST Orlando Bosch.
FACTS.
If YOU think YOU have any, go ahead and tell us. But you DON'T.
You're just another PAID RNC TROLL.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:43 pmI post the FACTS that I have gathered over 6 years.
You post TODAY’S talking points and LIES of the Rapeublics…
Ronald Reagan is DEAD and in HELL, and was a TRAITOR for Iran/Contra and so was Bush 41, who PARDONED the
Iran/Contra CRIMINALS and also TERRORIST Orlando Bosch.
FACTS.
If YOU think YOU have any, go ahead and tell us. But you DON’T.
You’re just another PAID RNC TROLL.
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
You actually think that the RNC pays people to come to this place to post with left losers that live in their mom's basement? You are funny. Keep posting your talking points fed to you by the left wing blogs and pass them along as fact. What exactly was Reagan found guilty of in the investigation again?
July 6th, 2007 at 4:50 pmThis made my day. Impeach the bastard. Then impeach the other bastard!
July 6th, 2007 at 4:50 pmThe Democratic congress won't give us what we want. We want to impeach Bush and Cheney. We should vote the Dems out of congress next year!
July 6th, 2007 at 4:51 pmYou actually think that the RNC pays people to come to this place to post with left losers that live in their mom’s basement? You are funny. Keep posting your talking points fed to you by the left wing blogs and pass them along as fact. What exactly was Reagan found guilty of in the investigation again?
Comment by wow!
Reagan was found guilty of NOTHING, except he used the "I cannot recall" as did Abrams, Pointdexter, who WERE convicted.
And Bush 41 PARDONED the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS to cover HIS azz and TRAITOR Reagan's.
And called them "patriots".
Sorta like Bush 43 pardoning Libby to cover HIS and Cheney's azz.
I present FACTS.
If YOU have any FACTS, post them.
But you DON'T.
TRUTH is the ENEMY of TRAITORS like the Bushes, Cheneys, Libby and TRAITOR Reagan.
So, any FACTS??
Or just more bullzhit LIES by the RNC and Rush???
July 6th, 2007 at 4:54 pmReagan was found guilty of NOTHING
Thanks, that is the fact that matters. I will trust that special prosecutor Judge Walsh looked a little deeper into the situation than you did and a little more objectively.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:58 pmWe should vote the Dems out of congress next year!
Comment by bogtrottors
Good idea!
July 6th, 2007 at 4:59 pmReagan was found guilty of NOTHING
Thanks, that is the fact that matters. I will trust that special prosecutor Judge Walsh looked a little deeper into the situation than you did and a little more objectively.
Comment by wow!
True. Because TRAITOR Bush 41 PARDONED the people that would have convicted HIS azz and TRAITOR Reagans.
And then called the TRAITORS "patriots".
Kinda like idiotboy Bush 43 with Libby.
And Special Prosecutor Walsh was about to put Weinberger on TRIAL when TRAITOR Bush 41 PARDONED him to save his OWN azz and TRAITOR Reagan's.
Walsh was NOT pleased. Look it up on Google.
FACTS, not Rapeublic LIES...
July 6th, 2007 at 5:05 pmTo save you the trouble of NOT looking it up, here is Lawrence Walsh's reaction to TRAITOR Bush 41's pardons of the Iran/Contra TRAITORS..
Bush Pardons 6 in Iran Affair, Aborting a Weinberger Trial; Prosecutor Assails 'Cover-Up'
http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/06/29/reviews/iran-pardon.html?_r=5&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=login
July 6th, 2007 at 5:07 pmWalsh says the COVERUP was to stop TRAITOR Reagan from being IMPEACHED...
From the article:
'Evidence of Conspiracy'
Mr. Walsh hinted that Mr. Bush's pardon of Mr. Weinberger and the President's own role in the affair could be related. For the first time, he charged that Mr. Weinberger's notes about the secret decision to sell arms to Iran, a central piece of evidence in the case against the former Pentagon chief, included "evidence of a conspiracy among the highest ranking Reagan Administration officials to lie to Congress and the American public."
The prosecutor charged that Mr. Weinberger's efforts to hide his notes may have "forestalled impeachment proceedings against President Reagan" and formed part of a pattern of "deception and obstruction." On Dec. 11, Mr. Walsh said he discovered "misconduct" in Mr. Bush's failure to turn over what the prosecutor said were the President's own "highly relevant contemporaneous notes, despite repeated requests for such documents.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmI'm a liberal but even I think the indictment of Casper Weinberger days before the 1992 election was political. There was nothing to it.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmWe should vote the Dems out of congress next year!
Comment by bogtrottors
Good idea!
Comment by wow! — July 6, 2007
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Thank you, wow.
Wow is what I said when I saw Pam Anderson's tatas for the first time.
We should throw out the Democratic congress because they will not impeach Bush and Cheney.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:11 pmhere is Lawrence Walsh’s reaction to TRAITOR Bush 41’s pardons of the Iran/Contra TRAITORS..
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Lawrence Walsh did us Democrats no help when he indicted Casper Weinberger. Even Democrats thought he went too far politicizing the justice system.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:14 pmComment by CT_V1
You blow rovian speak that is. How simple you view things, you are a good P-NACi, where are you and your pick up truck with the condefeatedfederate flag in the back professing you know better than history and what is documented as truth and not manipulated lies with half truths. You are plastic dude. You are in low twenty percentile too!
Comment by wow, your party hasn't had a good idea for fifty years. When Eisenhower fortold the danger as we live today of the Military Idustrial Complex taking over our government.
But don't worry your numbers are dwendling and your P NACi war criminals past and present will answer to the people.
Only Propaganda gives any logic to Reagan being anything but a puppet and everyone on earth knows this. He is another Bush with a different accent. Like Bush a traitor.
Seig Hiel Y'all
July 6th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI’m a liberal but even I think the indictment of Casper Weinberger days before the 1992 election was political. There was nothing to it.
Comment by bogtrottors
It had NOTHING TO DO with the "elections".
Abrams, Pointdexter, and others were tried FIRST, and it takes time, especially if the defense tries to STONEWALL, like NOW...
Prosecutor Walsh was PISSED that Bush 41 pardoned the ALL, including INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST Orlando Bosch.
Bush 41 called the TRAITORS "patriots", mainly because they covered HIS OWN AZZ and Reagans.
TRAITOR Bush 43 used the FRENZY of 9/11 as an excuse to BLOCK the release of the records of TRAITORS Reagan and Bush.
It was Executive Order 13233.
When these records are OPENED by a Democratic President, we will then see the TREASON committed by Reagan and Bush 41...
July 6th, 2007 at 5:25 pmTrue. Because TRAITOR Bush 41 PARDONED the people that would have convicted HIS azz and TRAITOR Reagans.
And then called the TRAITORS “patriotsâ€.
Kinda like idiotboy Bush 43 with Libby.
And Special Prosecutor Walsh was about to put Weinberger on TRIAL when TRAITOR Bush 41 PARDONED him to save his OWN azz and TRAITOR Reagan’s.
Walsh was NOT pleased. Look it up on Google.
FACTS, not Rapeublic LIES…
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell
Facts, there was not enough evidence to charge Reagan with anything illegal in the Iran Contra scandal. Walsh may have been upset and he may have suspected something went on, but he tried his hardest to build a case against Reagan and could not-Fact. Your pathetic attempts at debate have grown tiresome with all the bold and constant misuse of the word traitor. Have a nice weekend.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:29 pmFacts, there was not enough evidence to charge Reagan with anything illegal in the Iran Contra scandal. Walsh may have been upset and he may have suspected something went on, but he tried his hardest to build a case against Reagan and could not-Fact. Your pathetic attempts at debate have grown tiresome with all the bold and constant misuse of the word traitor. Have a nice weekend.
Comment by wow!
Yeah, sure troll. Reagan would have been SHOWN to be complicit in Iran/Contra if Weinber was TRIED. They had Weinberger's hand-written NOTES showing Reagan AND Bush 41 COMPLICIT...
When the records are release by a Democratic President, Reagan and Bush 41 will be shown for their TREASON against the USA.
And Bush 43 also...
Can't refute the FACTS, so YOU "take your ball home", M'kay???
July 6th, 2007 at 5:39 pmI called Nancy Pelosi's San Franciscio office and asked the following questions.
1. A poll released today indicates 54% of Americans support impeaching Dick Cheney. Why doesn't she?
2. Pelosi's performance record on ending the war in Iraq belies the promises and statements made prior to the Democratic takeover in November. Why is she emulating the Bush Administration's policy of deceit, then betrayal?
3. Pelosi enjoys the finest medical care available in America. Why don't the rest of us?
Nancy Pelosi's contact info:
Washington Office:
235 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0508
Phone: (202) 225-4965
Fax: (202) 225-8259
Main District Office:
July 6th, 2007 at 6:10 pm450 Golden Gate Ave., Burton Fed. Bldg.
San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: (415) 556-4862
Fax: (415) 861-1670
Impeach.
July 6th, 2007 at 6:11 pmIndict.
Incarcerate.
The facts are that Bush41 pardoned three indicted co-conpirators who were about to be compelled to testify under oath about Bush41 and Reagan's role in the Iran-contra Scandal. That much we know. So, Mr. Wow, in the words of your butt-buddy, Cheney, go f*ck youself!
July 6th, 2007 at 7:25 pmtimeisart: If you can't muster the supermajority needed to override a veto, you damn well can't pull together the two-thirds majority needed to impeach. Pelosi understands that. Why don't you?
As Congress stands today, impeachment is impossible without the support of Republicans. Why don't you directy your anger at them?
July 6th, 2007 at 7:27 pmUntil the right wing al Cracker and al Cracker wannabes...
...put pressure on those Repulsivescum, (1) Independent (choke), and Bluedog...
...TREASONOUS conned'self-servative...
...Congresspersons and Senators...
...Bushiva and L'il Dick are gonna ride off into the sunset much richer...
...leaving ALL of OUR children and grandchildren...
...with the BILL...
...for their STOLEN...
... borrowed war (oil and gas) profits...
...How STUPID are you America?
...will you allow them to walk away, unscathed?
July 6th, 2007 at 8:31 pmA GREAT question about Libby from the RUDE PUNDIT.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com
A Genuine Question Regarding Joseph Wilson:
Has any right-winger, in all this time, come up with a legitimate reason for there being a need to discredit Joseph Wilson by outing his wife through Scooter Libby? Because if, as conservatives claim, Wilson was demonstrably wrong in his Niger report, it seems you’d just show he’s wrong and leave his wife out of the whole damn thing. Unless…well, you know.
Anyone got an answer they can point out?
July 6th, 2007 at 8:35 pmLet's think about this....the study took place
with 1,100 participates in New Hampshire.
Now, I may be wrong, but didn’t the last
Republican die about 4 years ago.
Are we getting that desperate to pull out the
July 6th, 2007 at 10:19 pmpitchforks and torches?
Cheney deserves impeachment like no other vice president in our history. He lied about WMDs in Iraq when there were none. He is clearly involved in the outing of Valerie Plame. He also lied when he drew comparisons between bin Laden and Saddam. He may have also broken environmental laws when he ordered the dumping of salmon on Oregon coast in 2001. Congress must investigate all of this.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:33 pm#210
They did a lot more than this Congress...which cant even pass a minimum wage bill without slapping it on the war funding.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:22 pmOne reason for lack of evidence in the illegal selling of massive amounts of weaponry to the terrorist state of Iran and the weapons illegally going to the Contra terrorists outside of Nicaragua was the days Ollie North and his secretary spent at the SHREDDER. They did have North's diary which said that the Contras were bringing TONS of cocaine into the US. Reagan never said he did not do it. He just said "I do not recall." Notes at some of the meetings said "This will be impeachment if it ever gets out".
If that's not good enough for impeachment, how about the fact that Nancy had a baby only seven months into their marriage, you hypocritical *&^%$#@!
July 7th, 2007 at 2:07 pmImpeach Cheney, thern immediately Bush. Impeach them ASAP or face 18 terrible long remaining months ahead.
July 9th, 2007 at 1:30 pmBoth have violated their office, lied to us and have committed crimes. Sieze all Haliburton funds that they received without bids....sieze Cheney's assets, and then Bush's including those in Foreign banks. These crooks and their cronies have spent many years stealing from the taxpayers. Get them out of here.
This is without a doubt the most crooked Administration ever. What are we the people waitng for ?....permission???
I've come to believe that the Southern Confederate States really won the Civil War (1861-1865). Ever since, the Northren States have carried them economicaly and we can't elect a Presisdent (with a few exceptions) that is not from the South!?! Factor in the electorial college and the now Southern "Red" States have pretty much "called 'em thar way we's see's 'em", burdening the rest of us ever more with Right Wing, Religious Zealots, Party Firsters, Salts of the Earth types...you know...Morons. Following their platform of Dogma VS Interaction we are now viscerally hated, bankrupt and have a lawless Regime (and I do mean Regime) dismantling the Constitution. I quote again Sinclair Lewis (1937)...
July 9th, 2007 at 3:46 pm" When Fascism comes to America it will be carrying a cross and draped in the Flag"
It's time you all wake up and impeach the most CORRUPT administration in the entire history of this county. And if you haven't been paying attention for the last 6-1/2 years, that administration would be the CURRENT one. Cheyney and his puppet president should be led from their offices in chains, imprisoned and sued from here to the end of their portfolios.
July 9th, 2007 at 5:44 pmTo think that this congress is going to impeach anyone is ludicrous. They are all part of the same bowl of soup. Of this point, there isn't really much of a question. The only candidate worth voting for in the coming election is Ron Paul, and because he is a true constitutionalist when it comes to the role government plays in the lives of the people. He wishes to greatly reduce the size of the federal government and let states decide what to do on many of the issues now determined by the fed. With the current bunch we have in power. You might as well get used to running on the circular treadmill like a hampster. Because if you expect positive progress to ever be made with this current bunch whether it be democrats or republicans you nuts. They are all whores to the Military Industrial Complex and big business conglomerates in this world. There is no justice at the top. Just dictatorship. Get used to it or get off your fat lazy asses and do something about it. Too many articles have been written on this subject with not a lick of forward motion towards change. But then again. The American educational system have trained the majority of Americans to be dumb and lazy anyways. Give them a beer and Sunday night football and they are happy. Case and point made. Not enough people care. I mean really care. And that is the load of it.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:01 pmDICK+BUSH=SCREWED$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ TERMS OF USE,, I DO NOT AGREE
August 29th, 2007 at 3:28 am