Surprise DC Live Earth concert.
By on Jul 6th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Surprise DC Live Earth concert.
ABC News reports that Al Gore will begin tomorrow’s series of Live Earth concerts in Washington, DC, at a surprise concert at the National Museum of the American Indian. Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) had tried to block the event from happening in DC, claiming it was a “partisan” event. (For more on Live Earth and the Bush administration’s global warming manipulation, check out today’s Progress Report.)
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yes, this hypocritical event which by all means will use more energy and cause great amounts of pollutions. Liberals, such great hypocrites.
Even PETA is going after this event.
Al Gore should be more worried about saving his son than about lyining his pockets with money.
sad, sad.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:40 amInhofe, you so full of irony…
July 6th, 2007 at 11:40 am“Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) had tried to block the event from happening in DC, claiming it was a “partisan†event. ”
So there is conservative air that only cons breathe and liberal air that only liberals breathe? Who knew?
Idiot…
July 6th, 2007 at 11:42 amYes, as Gore said last night on Larry King, there are still those who believe the earth is flat.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:43 amComment by unbelievable — July 6, 2007 @ 11:42 am
I vote for 3rd party air now!
July 6th, 2007 at 11:44 amI was going to sarcastically post that Al Gore should know how to party like a rock star, if his son’s antics are any indication.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:44 amBut Conservatronthehater beat me to it!
Inhoffe is a little preoccupied, dealing with the flooding and storm damage in his home state…
July 6th, 2007 at 11:45 amSolar, wind and other alternative energy sources that Gore uses are NOT hypocritical because they are renewable and non-polluting.
Educate yourself on ‘green’ and ’sustainable’ energy already… Sheesh! You have an entire internet filled with valuable references and all you have to do is press a button. How freaking lazy are you?
July 6th, 2007 at 11:45 am“lyining”??? oh brother..
July 6th, 2007 at 11:45 amlw,
Unfortunately the retards have gotten out of bed.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:47 amGore’s son was caught driving 100 mph in a Prius. Amazing. Who knew that a Prius would do 100mph?
July 6th, 2007 at 11:48 amTexas Democrat-
July 6th, 2007 at 11:50 amHas it stopped raining where you live? I’m finally seeing blue sky here in Austin this morning after several weeks of rain. I’m grateful for the lower temps in July, but I’m beginning to think the Amazon rain forest has moved to central Texas.
lw,
Just saw the sun for the first time in weeks, sheeeeesh what an unbelievable year. I do however appreciate the break from rediculous electric bills.
Austin huh? You lucky dog, love that place.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:55 amAl Gore said “The debate is over.” That’s when I knew something was wrong. I knew for certain that the debate was certainly not over, but it was trying to be squashed.
Many of the assertions Gore makes in his movie, ”An Inconvenient Truth,” have been refuted by science, both before and after he made them. Gore can show sincerity in his plea for scientific honesty by publicly acknowledging where science has rebutted his claims.
For example, Gore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate reported, “Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame.”
Gore claims the snowcap atop Africa’s Mt. Kilimanjaro is shrinking and that global warming is to blame. Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, “Although it’s tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain’s foothills is the more likely culprit. Without the forests’ humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine.”
Link
Is the debate over for you? Have you had a drink from Al Gore’s pitcher of global warming koolaid? Do you refuse to believe the scientists who have clearly refuted Gore’s alarmism?
Have you asked yourself, “Does Al Gore have a motive for pushing global warming hysteria?”
The truth shall set you free.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:56 amAl Gore is a raving egomaniac and a complete and total nutter.
This concert is just one big wank session for all involved.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:59 amgore will announce he is running…. say hello to President Gore!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:01 pm> Do you refuse to believe the scientists who have clearly refuted Gore’s alarmism?
Ah hahahaha! Stupid troll.
Muckdog, why dontcha go ask the Australians about whether the debate is over or not? It’s been over for some time now.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:01 pm“The truth shall set you free.”
Comment by muckdog — July 6, 2007
Thanks, we know your shackles will keep you at home and out of our way!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:01 pmI’m an agnostic, but I think I’ll pray for Al Gore to run for President. It couldn’t hurt…
July 6th, 2007 at 12:01 pm> yes, this hypocritical event which by all means will use more energy and cause
> great amounts of pollutions. Liberals, such great hypocrites.
Yeah, probably about as much as one hour of bombing runs by Imperial Amerikka. F*cktard!
Luckily, there will be less “collateral damage”.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:03 pmIt’s as partisan as a tree… As partisan as a bush. DOH wait that’s not right…
July 6th, 2007 at 12:05 pmThe story is written by a member of the Heartland Institute who has on its board among others Thomas Walton an executive of general Motors Corp. hmmmm probably no conflict of interest there huh?
Who can believe anything a conserv666ative spouts, fire the scientists if they don’t tow the corporate line…
Sell crazy somewhere else, it was 108 in Idaho yesterday.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:09 pmHeads up to TP for this Progress Report – thanks Faiz et al! Great work and something I’ve sent to everyone I know and bookmarked as well. (not a bad idea these days).
As for something which impacts the entire “world” to be called “partisan” is not only totally ignorant but self-serving as well. The Bush Cabal epitomizes the “ugly american” in every respect in that all they care about is feathering their own nests….even at the expense of the rest of the world. This level of contaminated thinking is eventually going to be responsible for the demise of the human species.
Imhofe – well, what can one say about someone who was in a position to make changes and, instead, played sycophantic Rethug criminal?? It was clear during Boxer’s slapdown of Imhofe that he’s resembling a 90 year old woman with a serious case of senile dementia rather than a statesman or even a viable representative of the people. He looks like a very ugly old woman and acted like one whining and simpering for his precious “time” during those hearings….all he needed was a huge pocketbook to bang on the podium, for goodness sakes! Imhofe will be ousted from office the next time ’round. He’s already on the people’s list for rejection and non-renewal!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:10 pmI WISH Al Gore would announce he is running. I’m not so sure he will do that this election cycle. I really doubt he’d do it and detract from Live Earth.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:11 pmJames Inhofe is a national “disgrace”!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:11 pm#24 Although Al Gore could be viewed as a “savior of the planet”, I doubt that his present spiritual calibration will allow him to degenerate to the extent of actually “dirtying his hands (spirit)” following the filth which the Bush Cabal has wreaked on this country. Can anyone blame him? Not only does his running mean that he’s dragging himself down to their level to attempt to repair what they’ve done but he’s, clearly, risen so far above this political chicanery that to return to it would be indulging in spiritual and personal self-destruction at this point.
Last night’s interview pretty much illustrated where he is spiritually and the fact that he’s been “called to a higher purpose” in his life is illustrative of the fact that returning to the $hit-filled politics these days would be a direct descent into hell.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:14 pmIs the debate over for you? Have you had a drink from Al Gore’s pitcher of global warming koolaid? Do you refuse to believe the scientists who have clearly refuted Gore’s alarmism?
Have you asked yourself, “Does Al Gore have a motive for pushing global warming hysteria?â€
The truth shall set you free.
Comment by muckdog
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Hey muckdog,
My local weather guy cannot even get it right.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:14 pmI guess they can predict long range better???
“I do however appreciate the break from rediculous electric bills.
Austin huh? You lucky dog, love that place.”
Me too. Usually we’d be paying about $100 more per month for the AC and water. Austin’s the only place I’d live in Texas. I do love it. I dream of Colorado or Oregon sometimes (in summer though, not in winter). Fortunately my Congressman is Lloyd Doggett & he represents me well.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:15 pmMan if this would have happened to Gore jr a few years earlier he could have bunked up with Noelle Bush, and crap energy using Brittney conservative is already out of rehab and that other energy burning hogg Hilton Paris is out of jail. Dayum. Well I heard that he didn’t inhale….
Bwahahaha
July 6th, 2007 at 12:15 pmMuckdog: I’m afraid that you’ve been drinking the Koolaid, mon dieu – or just “drinking” too much to indulge in such a level of self-delusion. There is NOW IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT THIS CRISIS IS REAL….VERY REAL….MORE REAL THAN WE COULD IMAGINE IN OUR WILDEST OF NIGHTMARES. Actually, the new science indicates that the polar ice caps are now melting at a greater rate than the worst projections meaning the the “great flood” will be coming to Muckdog’s backyard during his lifetime now. Will this fool awaken and smell the coffee?? Or will he continue to find what must change to be too “inconvenient” at this time of his life? Is Muckdog that much of a misanthropic swine???? Perhaps and from the sound of it, he is.
Bury your head in the sand, Mucker! The rest of the world, thankfully, isn’t as delusional as you happen to be…we plan to do something about it and will hold those like you who refuse to be charged with lack of stewardship of this planet.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:17 pmMucker: What was the temperature yesterday in Colorado??? Try 128, dude! No global warming, my a$$. Disprove that one, fraud.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:18 pmWhat’s a EUroGreenie to do?
Europe’s move to biofuels threatens rainforest:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18332282/
Forests paying the price for biofuels:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400
July 6th, 2007 at 12:18 pmThe trolls who drink the Bush Crime Family’s unique brand of Kool-Ade….BushitcoAde? are the ones who will be swept up in the swirling waters first….heard it through the grapevine…oh yea!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:19 pm“My local weather guy cannot even get it right.
I guess they can predict long range better???”
Beyond ignorant! Too f*cking stupid for words.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:19 pmClearly, Al Gore has risen to rock star status while his opponent who engaged in stealing the election has descended down the toilet…What an amazing contrast.
Bush engages in self-destruction while Al Gore attempts to save humanity.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:21 pmmuckdog
July 6th, 2007 at 12:24 pmThis Live Earth Concert is a religious experience for libs. Al Gore is their prophet/evangelist. Al will take their money selling T-shirts, books, DVDs, and the brainwashed will worship at his feet. The lemmings will feel really, really, really good about themselves.
Isn’t it a Hoot that the only rebuttal here is about Gore’s son? Where is the Repug outrage about Darth’s gay daughter or the drunken BushCo twins, Jenna and Not-Jenna?
And of course, James In-a-huff, the paid Troll of the oil industry is the Repug refuter of Global Warming. He couldn’t spell “global warming” without asking Shell or Exxon for permission.
Oklahoma must be so proud of their version of Larry the Cable Guy!
How sad the Trolls life must be to live in denial about so many things!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:29 pmI’ve heard that Inhofe has a thing for young boys, too. Any truth to that rumor?
July 6th, 2007 at 12:30 pmThe Live Earth Concert will be the concert of the century….that’s becoming crystal clear. It’s being dubbed by the rest of the world as such right now.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:31 pm#27 That’s what you get from trusting the propagandist television, dude!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:33 pmRingo sez:
Oh yes…that’s why Inhofe fought so hard to keep it from happening.
Go ahead and try to dismiss it, not that you’ve failed to silence it. How do those grapes taste?
July 6th, 2007 at 12:35 pmOften people who tell the truth are not very popular early on. It’s only when the rest of us catch on and appreciate that they were telling the truth all along that they become more popular. Recent examples: Jimmy Carter & Al Gore.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:36 pmEasy refute to the absurd “the weatherman can’t predict weather very well therefore nobody can predict climate at all” argument:
“Which is warmer, summer or winter? … Which is rainier, next Tuesday or next Thursday? … There — you just predicted climate easier than weather. Congratulations.”
Then wait for the blank look and the “but that’s not the same” retort, which at this point will be most babbling.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:37 pmSummer is warmer than winter right?
July 6th, 2007 at 12:41 pmFor example, Gore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate reported, “Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame.â€
Not true – Melting of the Himalayan glaciers has been confirmed numerous times: Link Link Link Link
Gore claims the snowcap atop Africa’s Mt. Kilimanjaro is shrinking and that global warming is to blame. Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, “Although it’s tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain’s foothills is the more likely culprit. Without the forests’ humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine.â€
Comment by muckdog — July 6, 2007 @ 11:56 am
Doesn’t this confirm Gore’s basic premise? An anthropogenic cause – deforestation and reduced snowfall – is causing a change to the climate of the mountain. Human-caused climate change. No, it’s probably not specifically CO2-forced global warming that is the direct cause of the shrinking Kilimanjaro ice cap, but it still is an indirect cause. Link
July 6th, 2007 at 12:42 pmIf we have a big concert and we all sing along reallly loud and wish really hard I’m sure that we can change the Earth’s climate….I just know we can!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:42 pmAl the Oracle Save our Planet from the evil Bushies.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:44 pmOnly you have been chosen, your words are truth.
We have prayed and fasted for this day to arrive.
lw,
Another version was John Lennon who the cons of the time vilified and marginalized as a lunatic. Come to find out the lunatic was Richard (f*ck the constitution, the presidents never wrong) Nixon. And nearly nobody really appreciates it. It takes an exceptional person to stand up to the onslaught of sh*t being hurled at them for the sake integrity.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:45 pmJust Announced Act!!!!
The Singing Senators!!!!
John Ashcroft (R-Missouri) – Baritone (lost re-election, became Attorney General, then retired)
Larry Craig (R-Idaho) – Lead
James Jeffords (R-Vermont) – Tenor (became an Independent in 2001) (Retired in 2006)
Trent Lott (R-Mississippi) – Bass
“Let The Eagle Soar………”
Also Just Added
July 6th, 2007 at 12:50 pmJoe Lieberman
“I love My Tokyo Joe, er i mean Rose……”
Wow! All these dopes in the same place at the same time!
July 6th, 2007 at 12:50 pmWithout the forests’ humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine.â€
Comment by muckdog
If your going to shoot your own toes off bring a gun.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:52 pmWow! All these dopes in the same place at the same time!
Comment by michael
DId you get lonely for your dopey friends?
July 6th, 2007 at 12:53 pmOnly you have been chosen, your words are truth.
We have prayed and fasted for this day to arrive.
Comment by Flaco
Put down the spray paint ya little huffer.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:54 pmMy guess is that none of the trolls here have children (Thank God). Otherwise they would have some concept of what it is to want to leave a legacy of environmental stewardship for future generations.
But they follow the BushCo/Darth Cheney mantra of “F@ck U…. I got mine!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:02 pmJames G. Watt banned The Beach Boys from performing their annual Fourth of July concert on the National Mall on the grounds that rock concerts drew “an undesirable element.”
Watt’s conservative strain of born-again Christianity also came under heavy scrutiny and criticism in some quarters, as when (in 1983) he banned The Beach Boys from performing their annual Fourth of July concert on the National Mall on the grounds that rock concerts drew “an undesirable element.” [2] His religious beliefs, in fact, apparently contributed heavily to his beliefs about development and the environment. At Watt’s confirmation hearing in February 1981, when asked whether he believed that natural resources should be preserved for future generations, he replied, “I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations.”[3]
In 1995, Watt was indicted on 18 counts of felony perjury and obstruction of justice by a federal grand jury. The indictments were due to false statements made to a grand jury investigating influence peddling at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which he had lobbied in the mid to late 1980s. On January 2, 1996, as part of a plea bargain, Watt pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of withholding documents from a federal grand jury. On March 12, 1996 he was sentenced to 5 years probation and ordered to pay a $5,000 fine and perform 500 hours of community service, a sentence which allowed him to avoid incarceration. [4]
What a FREAK!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pm“But they follow the BushCo/Darth Cheney mantra of “F@ck U…. I got mine!!!
Comment by upside00 — July 6, 2007″
Not at all, we possess something that is so lacking by you dopey leftists, common sense!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmNot at all, we possess something that is so lacking by you dopey leftists, common sense!
Comment by michael — July 6, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Then why do you continue to deny the evidence of anthropogenic climate change?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:20 pmBruce Thorton on the “religious faith” of the Global Warming cult:
But don’t confuse “progressives†with the facts. Their melodrama of moustache-twirling capitalists and their Republican minions controlling the oafish masses with God, patriotism, and Wal-Mart is too flattering to the typical liberal’s elitist pretensions. In fact, this leftist narrative performs a debased religious function for the otherwise Godless. It identifies the wicked and the good and puts both into a justifying narrative replete with the promise of salvation (vote Democratic), holy writ (Michael Moore and the New York Times), thundering prophets (Al Gore), messiahs (Hillary, John, or Barack), the blessed saved (liberal Democrats), the evil damned (Republicans) and even apocalypse (global warming or another Republican president). And let’s not forget, it bestows status value as well, giving the liberal-progressive an exalted moral perch from which to look down on the masses stupefied by the machinations of their corporate overlords.
The proliferation of such pseudo-religions — faith-based narratives of meaning and value disguised as rationally derived political systems — is the tragic story of modernity, polluted as it is with the mountains of corpses sacrificed to failed gods. The 21st-century progressive church may appear less lethal than fascism or communism, but its eagerness to don the hair shirt of Western guilt and self-loathing is in the end as suicidal as the rants of Jim Jones in Guyana.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pm“Then why do you continue to deny the evidence of anthropogenic climate change?
Comment by toasterhead — July 6, 2007″
Climate change happens. It’s been going on for thousands of years and will continue to change. You know if you dopes would channel your energy into doing something constructive, you might be able to make a difference at achieving something!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmBruce Thorton on the “religious faith†of the Global Warming cult:
But don’t confuse “progressives†with the facts.
What are the “facts,” then? Every time a science denier like yourself decries the “cult of global warming,” it’s always with bombastic speculation about some global messianic progressive conspiracy, with no facts to back up the claim.
So please tell – what anti-science “facts” are you afraid to confuse us with?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:31 pmClimate change happens. It’s been going on for thousands of years and will continue to change. You know if you dopes would channel your energy into doing something constructive, you might be able to make a difference at achieving something!
Comment by michael — July 6, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
You’re right. The climate has changed many times over millions of years, in cycles that can last hundreds if not thousands of years, giving species ample time to adapt to the new equilibrium. The climate change that is attributable to human causes is going to happen in a space of several decades. We have thrown the equilibrium off-balance, and the planet is going to undergo a lot of physical climatic changes to reach this new equilibrium. This will be bad for most living things.
It’s a really basic economic concept – it shouldn’t be that difficult to understand.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:36 pmLink previously posted, but for emphasis:
2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate reported, “Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame.”
Are you saying that the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate is lying? Taking orders from Dick Cheney, are they? Is that honestly your opinion?
Again
Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, “Although it’s tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain’s foothills is the more likely culprit.
Are you saying that Nature magazine is a tool of the neo-cons? Is that your position?
Summary:
- Gore claims Himalaya glaciers are melting – refuted
- Gore claims snow cap oon Mount Kilamanjaro is shrinking due to global warming – refuted
- Gore claims tornado frequency is increasing due to global warming – refuted
- Gore claims hurricane frequency is increasing due to global warming – refuted
- Gore claims global warming is expanding African deserts – refuted
- Gore claims the Greenland ice sheet is shrinking – refuted
- Gore claims that the Antarctica ice sheet is melting – refuted
No wonder Al Gore refuses to debate global warming!
Oh, that’s because he says “The debate is over.”
He must meant for him, as he won’t debate anyone. “He is too busy raking in the money because there are too many people out there still wanting to worship this obvious fraud.”
The truth shall set you free.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pmtoasterhead,
I don’t deny science, I simply agree with many scientist who believe that most of the theories and speculations about the human causes of Global Warming are exagerated and often hysterical.
That’s all.
http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2007/globalwarming/SkepticalScientists.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming#Believe_accuracy_of_IPCC_climate_projections_are_inadequate
July 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pm“The climate change that is attributable to human causes is going to happen in a space of several decades. We have thrown the equilibrium off-balance, and the planet is going to undergo a lot of physical climatic changes to reach this new equilibrium. This will be bad for most living things.
Comment by toasterhead — July 6, 2007″
And you’re going to back up this ridiculous statement with what?
July 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pmmuck dog they are confused by real facts.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:48 pmTP exaggerate? nah.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pmHe must meant for him, as he won’t debate anyone. “He is too busy raking in the money because there are too many people out there still wanting to worship this obvious fraud.â€
The truth shall set you free.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:50 pm———————————————————
The money quote from muckdog Yea!
The Oracle has spoken “The debate is over”
We must follow….
July 6th, 2007 at 1:51 pmmuckster you own this thread today baby!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:53 pmreal facts?
Flaco:
July 6th, 2007 at 1:55 pmQuick get Mr. President to copyright this for you. Open a small production facility perfrerably overseas or if not M12 can help out with some great ideas as to worker’s rights and the like. Finally print these two simple words on all kind of bullshit T-shirts, hats, bumper stickers, etc. I suggest a very simple font and a strongly contrasting bicolor scheme. Don’t worry about carbon, solid waste, or any other silly shit like that. People will by this crap!!
And you’re going to back up this ridiculous statement with what?
Comment by michael — July 6, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
The reports from IPCC FAR Working Groups I, II, and III.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:56 pmInconvenient Truth!
http://www.junkscience.com/news/jonker.htm
July 6th, 2007 at 1:57 pmRock’em Al! Yay!
July 6th, 2007 at 1:58 pmAre you saying that the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate is lying? Taking orders from Dick Cheney, are they? Is that honestly your opinion?
No, I’m saying that their one study is contradicted by numerous others that say that the Himalayan glaciers are indeed shrinking.
- Gore claims Himalaya glaciers are melting – refuted
- Gore claims snow cap oon Mount Kilamanjaro is shrinking due to global warming – refuted
- Gore claims tornado frequency is increasing due to global warming – refuted
- Gore claims hurricane frequency is increasing due to global warming – refuted
- Gore claims global warming is expanding African deserts – refuted
- Gore claims the Greenland ice sheet is shrinking – refuted
- Gore claims that the Antarctica ice sheet is melting – refuted
Where have these been refuted, except in ExxonMobil talking points?
The one of these that I will grant you at a minimum is Kilimanjaro, but only if you restrict the cause to CO2-forced “global warming.” When you discuss the more holistic concept of climate change, including the effects of something like, say, deforestation on atmospheric vapor concentration, then I think it’s pretty clear that anthropogenic climate change is causing the shrinking snow cap on Kilimanjaro. I fault Al Gore for choosing a bad example, that’s all.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:05 pmInconvenient Truth!
http://www.junkscience.com/news/jonker.htm
Comment by michael — July 6, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
Wow – a ten-year-old unsourced editorial by a guy who works for Southern California Gas? Well, that changes everything! Here I was believing the research of reputable climate scientists when I should have been reading the unqualified rantings of someone with a financial interest in fossil fuels!
You sure showed me, michael!!!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:09 pmWhere have these been refuted, except in ExxonMobil talking points?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:09 pm——————————————-
Boy is that a loaded question?
Listen, as stated in the junk science link I provided above, this is all about 1 thing, MONEY! Yours and mine! Trillions! No thank you!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:11 pmBoy is that a loaded question?
Comment by Flaco — July 6, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
I await an unbiased answer. What reputable scientists have refuted these claims — with actual research to back them up, not conspiracy-based speculation?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:11 pmace says the Jews are causing global warming for their evil plans of domination.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:12 pm… await an unbiased answer. What reputable scientists have refuted these claims — with actual research to back them up, not conspiracy-based speculation?
Comment by toasterhead
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That is funny, conspiracy-based speculation.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:15 pmTPers live on conspiracy-based speculation.
That is funny, conspiracy-based speculation.
TPers live on conspiracy-based speculation.
Comment by Flaco — July 6, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
You can back that claim up as well, while you’re researching all the studies that refuted the statements from An Inconvenient Truth posted above. I’m sure it’ll be a wonderful read!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:19 pmWhat reputable scientists have refuted these claims — with actual research to back them up, not conspiracy-based speculation?
Comment by toasterhead
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A few:
http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2007/globalwarming/SkepticalScientists.asp
July 6th, 2007 at 2:23 pmGore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate reported, “Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame.”
Gore claims the snowcap atop Africa’s Mt. Kilimanjaro is shrinking and that global warming is to blame. Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, “Although it’s tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain’s foothills is the more likely culprit. Without the forests’ humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine.”
Gore claims global warming is causing more tornadoes. Yet the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change stated in February that there has been no scientific link established between global warming and tornadoes.
Gore claims global warming is causing more frequent and severe hurricanes. However, hurricane expert Chris Landsea published a study on May 1 documenting that hurricane activity is no higher now than in decades past. Hurricane expert William Gray reported just a few days earlier, on April 27, that the number of major hurricanes making landfall on the U.S. Atlantic coast has declined in the past 40 years. Hurricane scientists reported in the April 18 Geophysical Research Letters that global warming enhances wind shear, which will prevent a significant increase in future hurricane activity.
Gore claims global warming is causing an expansion of African deserts. However, the Sept. 16, 2002, issue of New Scientist reports, “Africa’s deserts are in ’spectacular’ retreat . . . making farming viable again in what were some of the most arid parts of Africa.”
Gore argues Greenland is in rapid meltdown, and that this threatens to raise sea levels by 20 feet. But according to a 2005 study in the Journal of Glaciology, “the Greenland ice sheet is thinning at the margins and growing inland, with a small overall mass gain.” In late 2006, researchers at the Danish Meteorological Institute reported that the past two decades were the coldest for Greenland since the 1910s.
Gore claims the Antarctic ice sheet is melting because of global warming. Yet the Jan. 14, 2002, issue of Nature magazine reported Antarctica as a whole has been dramatically cooling for decades. More recently, scientists reported in the September 2006 issue of the British journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society Series A: Mathematical, Physical, and Engineering Sciences, that satellite measurements of the Antarctic ice sheet showed significant growth between 1992 and 2003. And the U.N. Climate Change panel reported in February 2007 that Antarctica is unlikely to lose any ice mass during the remainder of the century.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:24 pmGore claims global warming is causing more frequent and severe hurricanes. However, hurricane expert Chris Landsea published a study on May 1 documenting that hurricane activity is no higher now than in decades past. Hurricane expert William Gray reported just a few days earlier, on April 27, that the number of major hurricanes making landfall on the U.S. Atlantic coast has declined in the past 40 years. Hurricane scientists reported in the April 18 Geophysical Research Letters that global warming enhances wind shear, which will prevent a significant increase in future hurricane activity.
There are many factors contributing to hurricane formation and intensity, including patterns such as El Nino. Geophysical Research Letters and other publications have also published several other studies linking climate change and hurricane intensity.
Also – the global warming-wind shear model only shows a reduction in Atlantic hurricanes. It found that conditions elsewhere, such as in the western Pacific, will be more conducive to hurricanes. It also does not discount the overall theory of climate change. “This study does not, in any way, undermine the widespread consensus in the scientific community about the reality of global warming,” said co-author Brian Soden. “In fact, the wind shear changes are driven by global warming.”
July 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pm“Also – the global warming-wind shear model only shows a reduction in Atlantic hurricanes. It found that conditions elsewhere, such as in the western Pacific, will be more conducive to hurricanes.
Comment by toasterhead — July 6, 2007″
As I stated above this is all about MONEY! Many reputable people feel Gore is nothing but hot air, as documented above.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmAs I stated above this is all about MONEY! Many reputable people feel Gore is nothing but hot air, as documented above.
Comment by michael — July 6, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
And this changes the scientific consensus that anthropogenic climate change is real in what way?
July 6th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“And this changes the scientific consensus that anthropogenic climate change is real in what way?
Comment by toasterhead — July 6, 2007″
I didn’t challenge you on anthropogenic climate change, I was challenging conclusions from algores book printed above! One of those was “Gore claims hurricane frequency is increasing due to global warming”. You modified that statement by inserting the words western Pacific. Not that I believe it. So what other algore statements do you need to change?
July 6th, 2007 at 3:26 pmT-head,
Here’s your consensus. The consensus statement from the 6th International Workshop on Tropical Cyclones of the WMO (Dec 2006). The IPCC was established by the UNEP and WMO in 1988. This consensus statement includes notable climate experts and IPCC autrhors such as Kerry Emanuel. Yet TP climate alarmists continue to connect hurricanes with anthropogenic CO2 emissions. The science is not settled, Al Bore. You’re lying when you say it is.
6th International Workshop on Tropical Cyclones of the World Meteorological Organization
1. Though there is evidence both for and against the existence of a detectable anthropogenic signal in the tropical cyclone climate record to date, no firm conclusion can be made on this point.
2. No individual tropical cyclone can be directly attributed to climate change.
3. The recent increase in societal impact from tropical cyclones has largely been caused by rising concentrations of population and infrastructure in coastal regions.
4. Tropical cyclone wind-speed monitoring has changed dramatically over the last few decades, leading to difficulties in determining accurate trends.
5. There is an observed multi-decadal variability of tropical cyclones in some regions whose causes, whether natural, anthropogenic or a combination, are currently being debated. This variability makes detecting any long-term trends in tropical cyclone activity difficult.
6. It is likely that some increase in tropical cyclone peak wind-speed and rainfall will occur if the climate continues to warm. Model studies and theory project a 3-5% increase in wind-speed per degree Celsius increase of tropical sea surface temperatures.
7. There is an inconsistency between the small changes in wind-speed projected by theory and modeling versus large changes reported by some observational studies.
8. Although recent climate model simulations project a decrease or no change in global tropical cyclone numbers in a warmer climate, there is low confidence in this projection. In addition, it is unknown how tropical cyclone tracks or areas of impact will change in the future.
9. Large regional variations exist in methods used to monitor tropical cyclones. Also, most regions have no measurements by instrumented aircraft. These significant limitations will continue to make detection of trends difficult.
10. If the projected rise in sea level due to global warming occurs, then the vulnerability to tropical cyclone storm surge flooding would increase.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:31 pmI didn’t challenge you on anthropogenic climate change, I was challenging conclusions from algores book printed above! One of those was “Gore claims hurricane frequency is increasing due to global warmingâ€. You modified that statement by inserting the words western Pacific. Not that I believe it. So what other algore statements do you need to change?
Comment by michael — July 6, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Excellent. So you agree with the scientific consensus on global climate change. That’s all I care about – you can rant about Al Gore all you want – I don’t care. Don’t forget to mention that he’s fat and his son was arrested.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pm“Excellent. So you agree with the scientific consensus on global climate change. That’s all I care about –
Comment by toasterhead — July 6, 2007″
If it’s conclusion is that it is causing global warming the answer is NO I don’t! By the way, algore is fat and his son was just arrested!
July 6th, 2007 at 3:38 pmFeel free to read the entire article or go right to their conclusion.
http://schwinger.harvard.edu/~motl/usc-climate.html
July 6th, 2007 at 3:44 pmhttp://www.petitiononline.com/agdgw/petition.html
July 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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July 6th, 2007 at 4:11 pmFortunately, we had to reschedule our DC trip. Otherwise we would have had to endure this foolishness. We probably would have had to skip this part of the tour altogether in order to shield our children from the attendees.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:12 pm“We probably would have had to skip this part of the tour altogether in order to shield our children from the attendees.
Comment by cc — July 6, 2007″
Kooks, all of them!
July 6th, 2007 at 5:16 pmLOL @ michael, he also thinks all liberals (people living in a capitalist society) are ‘Godless’ whijch is based on no science whatsoever yet wants people to sign a petition against this.
Hate freedom of speech much michael?
July 6th, 2007 at 5:27 pm“Hate freedom of speech much michael?
Comment by Jane Imhotte — July 6, 2007″
Nope! Just junk science!
July 6th, 2007 at 5:40 pm“LOL @ michael, he also thinks all liberals (people living in a capitalist society) are ‘Godless’
Comment by Jane Imhotte — July 6, 2007″
If Ann Coulter says it’s so, then it must be!
July 6th, 2007 at 5:48 pmAny one who would think this is a ‘partisan’ event is a complete moron. I didn’t realize Democrats were the only people using lights, water and/or whatever resources in everyday life. Even if it WAS a partisan event wouldn’t one want to for ONCE support someone who is trying to help the planet and not just someone in a specific party? This is not about sides, it’s about making sure we all have a planet to live on in the next coming years; not for Democrats to live. I’m not a demo or rep, but I would like to…I don’t know….maybe BREATHE or something in the future. We all do! If you don’t support Gore then that’s ok. You should at least be smart enough to support the cause.
July 7th, 2007 at 7:57 pmAl Gore needs to hold his breath and cut down on CO2. That is about the only way the world can be saved. He also needs to practice what he preaches. Take a look at his energy bill for a month and compare it to the average Tennessee resident. It is more in one month than what a single residential home uses in a year.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:37 pmWe need Al Gore to hold his breath to stop CO2 from destroying the world. That is about the only way he will save earth. He needs to practice what he preaches. Take a look at his power bill. In one month, his residence uses more energy than the average Tennessee residence uses in a whole year. If you don’t believe it, it has been posted for public view. Maybe you should investigate your Piper before you follow him over the cliff.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:45 pmDamn. My daughter hit the enter button.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:46 pmThe trolls posting on this thread are proving the title of another TP topic: Right Wing Launches Dishonest, Misinformed Attacks Against Live Earth.
Inconvenient Truth isn’t it, you nasty, inbred, NeoCon-worshiping Trolls!
UNDER THE BRIDGE!
July 8th, 2007 at 6:23 am