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ThinkFast: July 6, 2007


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Global warming is radically changing the face of Mount Everest, the sons of the men who first reached its summit 54 years ago said.” The sons of Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay say “their fathers would no longer recognise the world’s highest mountain,” noting the base camp is now 132 feet lower than it was 53 years ago.

Triple-digit temperatures are expected to set records in parts of the West. Forecasters predicted a high of 107 in Boise, ID, and 125 in Baker, CA. Residents in some states were warned “that outdoor activities could be dangerous except during the cooler early morning hours.”

Eighteen people died in Baghdad “after a car bomb blew up outside a photo shop here as members of a wedding party waited Thursday night for the newlyweds to get their pictures taken.”

“The bald eagle may be soaring back from near-extinction, but hundreds of other imperiled species are foundering, as the federal agency charged with protecting them has sunk into legal, bureaucratic and political turmoil.”

Nearly half of the National Hurricane Center’s employees urged the Bush administration to replace their boss. “The staff of the National Hurricane Center would like nothing more than to return its focus to its primary mission of protecting life and property from hazardous tropical weather,” they wrote, “and leave the political arena it now finds itself in.”

After a concerted lobbying effort by property developers, mine owners and farm groups, the Bush administration scaled back proposed guidelines for enforcing a key Supreme Court ruling governing protected wetlands and streams. “There are definitely waters that will not be protected because of this latest guidance,” said Navis Bermudez, a water policy analyst at the Sierra Club.

“An exodus of highly trained mid- and upper-level firefighters” from the U.S. Forest Service has left “swaths” of flammable national forests protected by little more than luck. “On any given day, about 40 of 271 U.S. Forest Service engines remain in firehouses rather than on patrol, idled by a shortage of supervisors.”

The New York Times writes, “There is no better measure of the power of the health care issue than this: Sixteen months before Election Day, presidential candidates in both parties are promising to overhaul the system and cover more — if not all — of the 44.8 million people without insurance.”

“Impeachment center” opens in Los Angeles. “A storefront ‘impeachment headquarters‘ emblazoned with American flags opened July 4 with a mission to remove President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. … The center is sponsored by Progressive Democrats of Los Angeles, Westside Greens, Santa Monica Democratic Club and the Los Angeles Greens.”

And finally: Today is President Bush’s birthday. The Houston Chronicle’s Julie Mason writes that Bush’s 61 years old physique is showing the demands of the office. “For Bush, his cumulative burden, with perhaps the Iraq war being most prominent — takes a heavy toll that is showing on his face and also in his demeanor, which is less jokey and more testy than previously. Some days, Bush looks exhausted.”




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96 Responses to “ThinkFast: July 6, 2007”

  1. VerbalKint Says:

    Great. More global warming stuff will guarantee this thread is overrun with deniers, liars, and idiots.


  2. Punchy Says:

    “The staff of the National Hurricane Center would like nothing more than to return its focus to its primary mission of protecting life and property from hazardous tropical weather,” they wrote, “and leave the political arena it now finds itself in.”

    Oh God, is this too funny. The actually expect the Bush Admin to make the NHC a political-free arena? THAT'S ALL THEY DO--POLITICS!! Good luck with that letter.

    I smell about half the employees of the NHC getting pink slips around 4:30 today.



  3. veritas Says:

    Global Warming, Global Warming! LOL


  4. Troll Says:

    All gore is not one of my favorite hypocrites however I dont think his sons problems are fair game.

    His lifestyle is.


  5. Evil Spaniard Says:

    Triple-digit temperatures are expected to set records in parts of the West. Forecasters predicted a high of 107 in Boise, ID, and 125 in Baker, CA. Residents in some states were warned “that outdoor activities could be dangerous except during the cooler early morning hours.”

    Until not much time ago, many racists blamed the "siesta" noon nap to mexican's lazyness. Guess what will do all these racists by noon if temperatures continue scalating in the USA.


  6. Texas Democrat Says:

    "Some days, Bush looks exhausted.”

    He damn well should, God knows the unwashed masses are exhausted.


  7. Raven Says:

    Most can't or won't do anything antwhere without air conditioning.
    They sit in their homes, cars and offices, and scuttle from one to the other.


  8. STFU Says:

    #

    Great. More global warming stuff will guarantee this thread is overrun with deniers, liars, and idiots.

    Comment by VerbalKint — July 6, 2007 @ 9:06 am

    Yah trolls with double digit IQ's following their idiotic masters.

    Isn't that right Happy Guy? How's that WalMart greeters job going?


  9. Raven Says:

    "First lady Laura Bush, showing none of the same ragged signs of aging as her husband,......."
    (from the linked article)

    George should have gotten the plastic surgery, too.........


  10. Evil Spaniard Says:

    #10 “First lady Laura Bush, showing none of the same ragged signs of aging as her husband,…….”
    (from the linked article)

    George should have gotten the plastic surgery, too………

    Comment by Raven — July 6, 2007 @ 9:24 am

    Alcohol preserves tissues. Coke burns them.


  11. veritas Says:

    I've long ago given up television but I made a point to watch Larry King's interview with Al Gore last evening. Wow! Imagine where this country would be right now if he hadn't been shafted by a stolen election?

    We certainly wouldn't be in the fix we're in....that's for sure.

    He presented himself like the true statesman that he is - A Harvard grad with an intellect which scares the tar out of the neocons because when it comes to "the conversation", they can't even find the words necessary to begin a dialogue with this modern-day "prophet", can they?

    We sat there watching and asked ourselves: Can you imagine The Shrub communicating with this level of dignity?? Can you imagine The Shrub using vocabulary words higher than duh....eh....bring 'em on??
    What a laughingstock Gore makes out of the POTUS! Amazing contrast, isn't it?

    And, it's becoming clear that Gore has accelerated himself personally and globally and has more respect than the bush cabal combined at this point. So, when asked about a potential candidacy, I believe he's now made it clear (much to the chagrin of a majority of americans) that he has no plans to run. Why should someone this personally and spiritually evolved come in and attempt to clean up the fecal material which this administration has plastered this country with?? Why WOULD anyone believe that it's an achievable proposition? Gore probably realizes that our democratic "tipping balance" has been reached and that equalibrium cannot be reinstated. Why beat a dead horse? Besides, Gore has much larger things on his plate right now than focusing on a dying democracy. He's focused on a dying planet, folks! And that's precisely where he needs to be!!


  12. veritas Says:

    Hi Raven! Yes, but where would a plastic surgeon begin with the problems this guy has? I think he should go on that show "The Swan" because he would, hands down, be the biggest Ugly Duckling in the group.


  13. veritas Says:

    I plan to sign the 7 point agreement along with every member of my family.....do you???


  14. Tom3 Says:

    That Gore-bashing Troll is one of those double-digit IQ morons. Typical inbred Repuke redneck idiot.


  15. SGT Higgins Says:

    "their fathers would no longer recognise the world's highest mountain"

    Being a bit over-dramatic?

    Sir Edmund Hillary: Y' know? It does kinda look familiar, but I can't quite place it. Seems I should know it, but.....hmmm, can you give me a hint?.


  16. Raven Says:

    "Julie A. MacDonald, a deputy assistant secretary of the Interior who oversaw the endangered-species program, resigned last month after the inspector general found that she had ordered scientists to change their findings, and shared internal documents with lobbyists for agricultural and energy interests.

    MacDonald, who owns a Sacramento-area ranch with her husband, took a particular interest in California, forcing cutbacks in proposed habitat protection for several listed species, including the Klamath River's bull trout and the Southwestern willow flycatcher, a bird that ranges from New Mexico to Southern California.

    Last week, House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Nick J. Rahall II (D-W.Va.) announced he would hold hearings on reports by the Washington Post that, in 2002, Vice President Dick Cheney interjected himself into a dispute over Klamath River water flows.

    According to the Post, after Cheney objected to the amount of water withheld to preserve fish, it was diverted to irrigation and an estimated 70,000 salmon died, including a small percentage of coho, a species listed as threatened in the region.

    "Vice President Cheney turned the science upside down for political reasons," said Rep. George Miller (D-Martinez). "They had to close the fishing season. Taxpayers shelled out $60 million for businesses and boats."

    Sorry for the paste job folks, but this really hits me hard.
    (Chainees secret service code name is "Angler")


  17. veritas Says:

    #15 What would a gore-bashing troll have in terms of legitimate discourse against Gore to do any form of bashing with?? Most reichwingnuts couldn't begin a real conversation with Al Gore.


  18. veritas Says:

    #17 Are you sure this isn't Nazi Germany?? Ordering scientists to change their findings?? It's no wonder this country is destroyed with that mentality! Let's get these half-baked, crazed, fascists out of our government - and now!


  19. veritas Says:

    Heil Cheney is about to get the boot when the Madam's records are outed.

    go to http://www.bradblog.com for a list of administration phone numbers if you want to do your own research. It's under the DC Madam's article - one of the posts there.

    http://www.bradblog.com


  20. Tom3 Says:

    SGT Higgins is another of those double-digit IQ inbreds. What a moron.


  21. unbelievable Says:

    All gore is not one of my favorite hypocrites however I dont think his sons problems are fair game.
    His lifestyle is.
    Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 9:16 am

    Except that he is carbon neutral... Stop believing the propaganda by BIG OIL. They are making a fool out of you when it's just so easy to google the facts...

    Al Gore's home is fueled with ALTERNATIVE energy - solar and wind. ZERO oil is used.

    The only hypocrite bewteen the two of you isn't Al Gore. The bible says that christians are supposed to be stewards of the land. Destroying it isn't caring for it. Hypocrite.


  22. Raven Says:

    "Being a bit over-dramatic?"
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 6, 2007

    Not really, climbers of this calibre tend to scrutinize and memorize exacting detail of the landscapes they climb, it's part of success and survival.

    Respectfully submitted, sir.


  23. unbelievable Says:

    Most can’t or won’t do anything antwhere without air conditioning. They sit in their homes, cars and offices, and scuttle from one to the other.
    Comment by Raven — July 6, 2007 @ 9:21 am

    So true... And that fact helps explain why we are also the fattest Industrialized Nation in the world as well.

    I've seen people drive across parking lots instead of walking across them!


  24. SGT Higgins Says:

    Not really, climbers of this calibre tend to scrutinize and memorize exacting detail of the landscapes they climb, it’s part of success and survival.

    Comment by Raven

    Ok, I'll cede that. It just seemed a little over-the-top at first reading.


  25. unbelievable Says:

    Oh, and in the South, people with long driveways also drive up them to get the mail!


  26. Troll Says:

    Remember it was socialism which gave fascism its strength.


  27. SGT Higgins Says:

    Comment by Tom3 — July 6, 2007 @ 9:33 am

    Go jump off of a barely recognizable mountain. lol


  28. Tom3 Says:

    Once again, Chimpy cronies get caught trying to get rid of pesky facts in official government reports.

    I'd love to hear the trolls' justification for this abuse.

    But they'd rather smear Gore.


  29. unbelievable Says:

    Sir Edmund Hillary: Y’ know? It does kinda look familiar, but I can’t quite place it. Seems I should know it, but…..hmmm, can you give me a hint?.
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 6, 2007 @ 9:29 am

    Do you not know what 132 vertical feet looks like? Start there...


  30. VerbalKint Says:

    #3 Right on cue, idiot.


  31. Troll Says:

    Don't forget the fascist and nazis were socialist.


  32. Tom3 Says:

    And at the top of the third, the score is Raven 1, Troll 0.

    Dumbass troll, go back under your bridge.


  33. SGT Higgins Says:

    Do you not know what 132 vertical feet looks like? Start there…

    Comment by unbelievable

    Their sons didn't say their fathers wouldn't recognize the BASE CAMP area, they said they wouldn't recognize the WORLD'S TALLEST MOUNTAIN. Maybe being men, they expect their father's wouldn't stop and ask directions.


  34. Troll Says:

    Comment by unbelievable — July 6, 2007 @ 9:34 am

    UB,
    Quit your preaching I am not interested in your bible. All gore buys his carbon credits from himself.


  35. unbelievable Says:

    Don’t forget the fascist and nazis were socialist.
    Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 9:44 am

    Fascism is the OPPOSITE of Socialism...

    Go educate yourselves. You look like idiots to people who know the facts.


  36. Tom3 Says:

    I'm not buying your Bible, either, troll.

    Its a poorly-edited work of fiction.


  37. VerbalKint Says:

    The story about the national hurricane center is strange indeed. Check out the link if you haven't already. Some of the comments posted in response to the article are interesting.

    Odds on the letter was orchestrated by a Bush political appointee in preparation for removing the director and replacing him with an incompetent partisan hack. Then say bye bye to the best forecasters.


  38. wags Says:

    All gore buys his carbon credits from himself.

    Um, no. This isn't actually possible.


  39. bobcat_grad Says:

    Domenici must hate America, too. Right, neo-cons?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/06/politics/main3022937.shtml

    I find it funny how on just about every issue there ever has been or ever will be, progressives/liberals come out with their approach, they get slammed for it by conservatives, but it eventually gets done anyway. All conservatives do is get in the way and cause headaches for everyone.


  40. Raven Says:

    Maybe being men, they expect their father’s wouldn’t stop and ask directions.

    Comment by SGT Higgins

    Here, let me help you out, sir:
    This way is up ...
    This way is down...


  41. unbelievable Says:

    Their sons didn’t say their fathers wouldn’t recognize the BASE CAMP area, they said they wouldn’t recognize the WORLD’S TALLEST MOUNTAIN.

    The base Camp is part of the mountain, and you couldn't climb the mountain without first getting to the base camp, which is now 132 feet lower...

    Maybe being men, they expect their father’s wouldn’t stop and ask directions.
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 6, 2007 @ 9:46 am

    Hanging around us has improved your sense of humor, Sarg... :D


  42. Tom3 Says:

    Nitpick all you want, Higgins.

    It doesn't change the FACT that global warming has changed Everest.

    Stupid inbred troll.


  43. unbelievable Says:

    Quit your preaching I am not interested in your bible. All gore buys his carbon credits from himself.
    Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 9:47 am

    Definitely NOT my bible... I'm an Atheist.

    But you trolls are always claiming the high road with your christian majority, so it's only fair that I point it out until you stop your preaching of propaganda...


  44. SGT Higgins Says:

    Stupid inbred troll.

    Comment by Tom3 — July 6, 2007 @ 9:52 am

    Ah, you're just jealous because YOUR father and mother weren't related to one another.

    Jealousy will eat you up inside, man.


  45. SGT Higgins Says:

    Hanging around us has improved your sense of humor, Sarg… :D

    Comment by unbelievable

    Are you coming on to me? :) LOL


  46. unbelievable Says:

    Are you coming on to me? :) LOL
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 6, 2007 @ 9:57 am

    No.


  47. VerbalKint Says:

    Higgins, you lost the argument the moment you started playing childish semantic games. Of course you could do no better, since there are no facts to support your side.


  48. SGT Higgins Says:

    Comment by VerbalKint — July 6, 2007 @ 9:59 am

    I wasn't arguing in the first place, VK

    I just thought it rather silly for their sons to say that their father's wouldn't recognize the world's tallest mountain. Hell, I've never been there and I have to believe that I could find it with a little sleuthing.


  49. SGT Higgins Says:

    No.

    Comment by unbelievable

    Allright, but it's really only a matter of time, y'know.


  50. Troll Says:

    I dont play the "Christian majority" or any majority game. Our founding fathers warned about tyrranny of the majority and I think they were on to something. The constitution made this country what it is and screwing with it has been what is destroying it.

    So UB you cant use your intolerant attitudes to discredit me that easily.


  51. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    SGT Higgins sez:

    I wasn’t arguing in the first place, VK

    In that, at least you're correct. Your infantile sophistry doesn't qualify as an argument...not by a long shot.


  52. VerbalKint Says:

    infantile sophistry

    I like that, Trip. Might borrow it myself sometime.


  53. bobcat_grad Says:

    #48

    Well at least Bush hasn't been 'screwing with it.' He just ignores it instead.


  54. Raven Says:

    "Hell, I’ve never been there and I have to believe that I could find it with a little sleuthing."

    Comment by SGT Higgins

    LOL
    The closest you'll ever get to a mountain peak is the Google page.


  55. Jay Randal Says:

    Smearing Gore's son is dirty politics
    Friday 6th of July 2007
    by Jay Randal

    The Internet blogs were filled with personal smears of Al Gore's son, yesterday, as a way to attack Mr. Gore in mean attempt to prevent him running for president.

    GOPer goon attacks on Gore's family is dirty politics, so are indicative of vile Karl Rove's style of smearing opponents, plus it reveals GOPers as nasty hypocrites.

    President George Bush's two daughters are no saints, since they have been exposed as party girls who like to get drunk, and have been seen using drugs at parties.

    Former Governor Jeb Bush's children have been seen in the news: One of his sons was caught by police in a car naked screwing a girl and his daughter doing drugs.

    Therefore it is stupid for GOPers to even mention Al Gore's son doing something dumb, because Bush kids have done far worse stuff, so this could boomerang too.

    Pres. Bush and his brother Jeb would be wise to stop the attacks on Gore's son, or face wide-open counterattacks on their kids, so end this cycle of dirty politics.

    (Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)


  56. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #55 - "Former Governor Jeb Bush’s children have been seen in the news: One of his sons was caught by police in a car naked screwing a girl and his daughter doing drugs." Comment by Jay Randal — July 6, 2007 @ 10:27 am

    Don't forget, Then-Gov. Jeb Bush bought the police and made sure the charges were never filed against his son for his public-sex-capade!

    GOP-ers buy themselves out of trouble. Dems take responsibility for their actions. So much for the GOP "values"!


  57. Perry Logan Says:

    I'm waiting for the wingers to stop denying global warming and start blaming Bill Clinton for it--all without missing a beat, of course.


  58. unbelievable Says:

    Allright, but it’s really only a matter of time, y’know.
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 6, 2007 @ 10:01 am

    No.


  59. DRxJ Says:

    Pres. Bush and his brother Jeb would be wise to stop the attacks on Gore’s son, or face wide-open counterattacks on their kids, so end this cycle of dirty politics
    Comment by Jay Randal — July 6, 2007 @ 10:27 am

    Jay, though I may not agree with all of your posts, I do enjoy reading them.
    One quick critique, if you don't mind:
    Have President Bush or Jeb attacked Gore for his son's mistake?
    I have not seen or heard any. Blogs, yes. From the spoiled rotten political siblings?


  60. unbelievable Says:

    So UB you cant use your intolerant attitudes to discredit me that easily.
    Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 10:03 am

    The Founding Fathers considered the Constitution to be a living document... That means that is should evolve, like all living things - or it will become extinct.

    The intolerance isn't mine. It belongs to the conservative christians who embrace the Old Testament and it's violent and divisive mindset. I simply have called it out.


  61. Jay Randal Says:

    DRxJ > Bush Regime operatives are behind the attacks on Gore's son. I am just reminding Pres. Bush and his brother Jeb to call off the attack dogs or face all out attacks on their rotten kids. I would prefer this ends.


  62. klyde Says:

    #57

    I've heard that one already, it goes: ..."and what did Gore do about global warming in the eight years he and Clinton were in office?"

    They can deny that a problem exist but complain, wrongly of course that the Dems didn't adress the problem. The ability to hold two competing ideas in their heads while believing both to be true is rampant in wingnuttia.


  63. Jay Randal Says:

    Democrat Soldier > Yep Gov. Jeb Bush had his son's police record wiped clean and the press basically said next to nothing about it.


  64. Troll Says:

    UB

    You have simply created a strawman.

    In a sense they allowed for the evolution of the document through the process of amending it. Not through judicial tyranny.


  65. Jay Randal Says:

    Off on a road trip today > take care all.


  66. Troll Says:

    UB

    Your projection of the conservative Christian position is as bigoted as labeling all muslims terrorists. You are intolerant and really need to deal with the issues you have with your father.


  67. unbelievable Says:

    You have simply created a strawman.

    No I haven't. I'm simply repeating what they claim. Ask them.

    In a sense they allowed for the evolution of the document through the process of amending it. Not through judicial tyranny.
    Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 10:57 am

    No one is suggesting judical tyranny... That's a real strawman.

    Your projection of the conservative Christian position is as bigoted as labeling all muslims terrorists.

    I didn't project. I REPEATED what they claim. Hello? Are you not listening to what they say?

    The truth isn't always pleasant. Most Christains are hypocrites, since only 35% of the 71% in this country who call themselves one don't even attend church. The numbers don't lie.

    You are intolerant and really need to deal with the issues you have with your father.
    Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 11:00 am

    Stop with the psycho-babble. This has nothing to to with my dead father. It has to do with a system that thinks only WASP men are valuable... Actually read the bible - the whole bible - you'll see what I mean. Ah, actually, you won't. You'll just ignore or misrepresent the parts that call for raping women and selling young daughters into slavery for sex...


  68. Troll Says:

    UB
    You poor abused soul. You know so little but your anger reveals so much.

    You were talking about ME. Implying that I was a bible thumper.

    You have fallen into the them and us trap. We are one.

    Show me where any major Christian denomination "call(s) for raping women and selling young daughters into slavery for sex…" because the bible says so.

    WASP men are valuable though in your anger and pain you may not think so, and so are all men and women of all races and creeds.


  69. DRxJ Says:

    Hey Zooey,
    Hot enough for you?
    ...and remember, it's not the heat, it's the humidity!


  70. Zooey Says:

    Today is President Bush’s birthday. The Houston Chronicle’s Julie Mason writes that Bush’s 61 years old physique is showing the demands of the office. “For Bush, his cumulative burden, with perhaps the Iraq war being most prominent — takes a heavy toll that is showing on his face and also in his demeanor, which is less jokey and more testy than previously. Some days, Bush looks exhausted.”

    Happy Birthday, King George. I hope you get everything you deserve.


  71. RUCerious Says:

    Spewing Death and Destruction IS hard work.
    Poor chymp. Rot in fu(king hell.


  72. RUCerious Says:

    Mistress Z~
    Need to cool off? Got a stream nearby you can dunk in?
    Only in the 80's here today...


  73. Zooey Says:

    Hey Zooey,
    Hot enough for you?
    …and remember, it’s not the heat, it’s the humidity!
    Comment by DRxJ

    Hey DRxJ! Thank goodness I don't live in Boise or Baker, cuz it was only 100 degrees in Moscow yesterday. Only supposed to be 95 today.

    Humidity? What's that? This is the west, and it's drier than a bone. Damn, I hope we don't get fires again this year.


  74. ForTruth Says:

    Which basecamp on Everest are they talking about? The one at around 17,000 ft. which is all rocks? How could it sink? The mountain itself is said to be rising in elevation. I don't get it.


  75. Zooey Says:

    Mistress Z~
    Need to cool off? Got a stream nearby you can dunk in?
    Only in the 80’s here today…
    Comment by RUCerious

    Nope, but I have a shower and cold wine for this evening. :)

    Quit bragging.....I'll send you 6 feet of snow this winter!


  76. muckdog Says:

    Many of the assertions Gore makes in his movie, ''An Inconvenient Truth,'' have been refuted by science, both before and after he made them. Gore can show sincerity in his plea for scientific honesty by publicly acknowledging where science has rebutted his claims.

    For example, Gore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate reported, "Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame."

    Gore claims the snowcap atop Africa's Mt. Kilimanjaro is shrinking and that global warming is to blame. Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, "Although it's tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain's foothills is the more likely culprit. Without the forests' humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine."

    Link

    The truth shall set you free.


  77. Zooey Says:

    The truth shall set you free.
    Comment by muckdog

    Thank you, muckdog. I agree, our earth is warming significantly, and we need to do something about it sooner, rather than later.

    I enjoy truth.


  78. Bluedahllia Says:

    Heh,
    We live in Boise and when we took our kids to the water park yesterday the themometer over the wave pool said 115. I don't know what the heck we were thinking! Nice thing about Idaho, it is a dry heat. I can tolerate 115 here, I can't do 85 in Texas. LOL


  79. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Ooh dogmuck again at post #77 - watch you step people.


  80. Gregor Samsa Says:

    The truth shall set you free.
    Comment by muckdog — July 6, 2007 @ 11:57 am

    I am happy to see you give the to American Meteorological Society enough credibility to quote them in a debate about Global Climate Change.

    Here is a quote from the AMS' web site on climate change:

    Despite the uncertainties noted above, there is adequate evidence from observations and interpretations of climate simulations to conclude that the atmosphere, ocean, and land surface are warming; that humans have significantly contributed to this change; and that further climate change will continue to have important impacts on human societies, on economies, on ecosystems, and on wildlife through the 21st century and beyond.
    Climate Change - An Information Statement of the American Meteorological Society


  81. unbelievable Says:

    You poor abused soul. You know so little but your anger reveals so much.

    It's not my anger it's yours.

    I'm actually not angry. You don't have to be foaming at the mouth to point out the hypocrisy in the christian right.

    You were talking about ME. Implying that I was a bible thumper.

    You're ilk are always saying that the country is overwhelmingly xtian. You saying they are wrong? LOL Thanks, it's was my initial point in lumping you all together to prove to someone else that they were wrong...

    I'm done with you now.

    You have fallen into the them and us trap. We are one.

    Then act like it.

    Show me where any major Christian denomination “call(s) for raping women and selling young daughters into slavery for sex…” because the bible says so.

    Daryll's website link is around... Go to his church website...

    WASP men are valuable though in your anger and pain you may not think so, and so are all men and women of all races and creeds.
    Comment by Troll — July 6, 2007 @ 11:32 am

    I didn't say they weren't valuable, I just said that they aren't better than everyone else who isn't one, according to the christian right. Stop with the strawmen. It makes you look like you don't have reading comprehension skills.

    Later...


  82. Troll Says:

    UB
    said
    "You’re ilk are always saying that the country is overwhelmingly xtian. You saying they are wrong? LOL Thanks, it’s was my initial point in lumping you all together to prove to someone else that they were wrong…"

    Protestants are 52% of the population and Catholics are 24% that adds up to a majority hello. They are right and you again are wrong.

    My "ilk"? Go on in your intollerant ways of stereotyping and labeling people with whom you disagree it only shows you for the narrow minded ignoramus you are.


  83. Troll Says:

    UB
    Additionally going to Church or not does not make one a Christian hello.


  84. Happy Guy Says:

    You know what, Al Gore's son is fair game. Everyone left butt-ugly Chealsy Clinton alone, but as soon as Bush was elected you people started in on the twins. So screw Al "dangling-chad" Gore and his drug sucking hell-spawn. They probably did this on purpose anyway. Every liberal media outlet makes sure to print he was driving a hybrid. Hypocrite Gore is afraid of global warming because his air conditioner bills for three huge houses are so large. He drives around in SUVs and burns jet fuel faster than his son burn marijuana.

    ROTFL


  85. Troll Says:

    Happy Guy
    I know its fun to bust their nuts but All Gores kid has some serious problems and I dont think we should make political hay of that. It does not matter what they do two wrongs dont make it right.


  86. Ophelia Heinie Says:

    So Bush is "more testy??" That doesn't fit with WaPo's recent story about how "tranquil" the decider is these days...could that have been just another serving of WaPo Kool-Aid?


  87. Happy Guy Says:

    Then Al should pay more attention to his family. Stay home Al, stop flying around.


  88. Troll Says:

    Happy
    Maybe you are right but that is his call. Besides the damage is done his son is 24 years old.


  89. DRxJ Says:

    Everyone left butt-ugly Chealsy Clinton alone,
    Comment by Happy Dude — July 6, 2007 @ 1:26 pm

    As usual, and as is typical, Mr.Drudge lies!

    On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, "Did you know there's a White House dog?" Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.

    And of course he plays the "only the left attacks" while he himself attacks Chelsea by calling her "butt ugly" (like he's ever seen any female's posterior anatomy)
    Why does the right hate???
    My belief is that they aren't getting enough, and they're extremely jealous


  90. Happy Guy Says:

    Why does the right hate? Read any thread on this site about Ann Coulter if you want to see hate.

    ROTFL, you people should look in the mirror more often, if you can stand it of course. ROTFL


  91. DRxJ Says:

    Happy Dude,
    Great rebuttal of what I posted. Your debating skills, especially when I pointed out the Chelsea bashing from the right, is unmatchable.
    (methinks that your DSBU has affected your tiny little brain)
    ROTFLMAO!!!!!
    ROTFLMAO!!!!!
    ROTFLMAO!!!!!
    ROTFLMAO!!!!!


  92. veritas Says:

    Triple digit numbers will be the norm all week and there are still some ignorant fools who refuse to believe it - even when their own thermomenters are reading it. What buffoons!


  93. veritas Says:

    At least Chelsea Clinton had a brain - something which the Dumb and Dumber twins, when put together, can't equal! hahaha! The twin applies don't fall far from the Dumbola Tree, do they? But I'm wondering who is dumber? Laura or The Shrub? I think it's a toss-up myself. Each time I hear lil' ms. laura chatter away in her phony southern accent, I can only imagine what she must have been muttering when she flew through that intersection and rammed her vehicle into her ex-boyfriend....yes, indeed....imagine the serendipity involved in that....vehicular homicide of an ex-boyfriend. It think it's safe to guess who dumped whom in that relationship???


  94. veritas Says:

    Twin Apples, that is! Dumb and Dumber and the Dumbola Tree!


  95. veritas Says:

    google little laura....and her infamous vehicular homicide of her ex boyfriend sometime...



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