Live earth concerts underway.
By on Jul 7th, 2007 at 9:30 am
Live earth concerts underway.
Watch them here. MSNBC and affiliated NBC networks are providing coverage throughout the day. Climate Progress is live-blogging the New York concert.
UPDATE: The concerts are barely underway, but the National Review’s Mark Steyn has already declared the event a failure. “The way this thing’s going it looks like, thanks to Al Gore, all-star charity galas will be joining the polar bears on his endangered species list.”
UPDATE II: Michelle Malkin offers her insights on the concerts: “Who are these people and what on earth are they doing?”
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Imagine…
…how much energy this concert uses.
…how much waste is produced by this concert.
…how much aviation fuel all the artists and audience spent just to get to the concert. Doesn’t help with global warming, now does it?
…how much better the money spent on this concert could have been spent in solving poverty and hunger all around the world.
…and so on.
Hypocrites. That’s what you are.
July 7th, 2007 at 9:40 amFrank M,
F*ck off retard
July 7th, 2007 at 9:44 amToo bad these weren’t all held in Death Valley, CA.
I thought Al Gore cancelled due to his son’s arrest for drugs / speeding?
July 7th, 2007 at 9:49 amIf you want to talk about waste and pollution, look no further than the Bush/Cheney administration!
BushCo = LIARS
July 7th, 2007 at 9:50 amIt’s too easy making fun of celebrity activists. Of course if Malkin and the other guy were smart they would ignore Live Earth. But alas they are stupid, and they will catapult global warming EVEN FURTHER into the public discussion. LOL
July 7th, 2007 at 9:50 amThe Whining 22%-ers™
July 7th, 2007 at 9:55 am#2: Oh that was constructive. You didn’t even try to debunk my points.
July 7th, 2007 at 9:56 amFrank you’re an amateur. How does an obvious mororn like you find a place like TP?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:03 amThe Repuke trolls are having their own concert, to help their poor Big Oil pals.
Its called the DEAD Earth Concert.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:03 amImagine…
…how much energy this occupation uses.
…how much waste is produced by this war.
…how much aviation fuel all the officers and supplies spent just to get to Iraq. Doesn’t help with global warming, now does it?
…how much better the money spent on this fake war could have been spent in solving poverty and hunger all around the world.
…and so on.
Hypocrites. That’s what you are.
….there that’s better…..debunk those points moron.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:04 amRepuke trolls HATE our planet.
They’re evil, sick little psychotics.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:06 amComment by Texas Democrat — July 7, 2007 @ 9:44 am
What’s the matter, can’t stand the heat?
Good point on post #1, Frank.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:08 amFrank….grow up numbnuts. Energy spent on the defense off the planet is not wasted as oppossed to the air that you breath.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:09 amFrank,
The reality of the world we live in is that to pull this off we do need to expend some energy. That level of energy pales in comparison to what could be saved by bringing more awareness of this problem to the people.
No, Frank would prefer that we stick our head in the sand and let Exxon continue to break new profit records. What gets these trolls all upset about Al Gore is that he is at least trying to DO SOMETHING. The global warming deniers would prefer that we DO NOTHING. Their type are now being exposed for what they are. The world is seeing this as a real problem and are demanding real action. Unfortunately, our leaders in Washington are intent on NOT providing any.
I sat and watched Fox “News” with my mom last night. (She’s in her last days so I gave in to her.) As to be expected with the right-wing trolls, Frank is parroting them well. Maybe you could come up with something original. Maybe you could explain why we’re continually setting new tempurature records. Maybe you could tell us that 115 degree weather in Phoenix is really nothing to worry about.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:10 am…how much better the money spent on this concert could have been spent in solving poverty and hunger all around the world.
…and so on.
Hypocrites. That’s what you are.
Comment by Frank M — July 7, 2007 @ 9:40 am
Sort of the same as that money for the Iraq debacle could be but over on that thread I see the same folks arguing that paying for the things describe here falls under the category of scary universal health care.
Cake and eat it too? Who are the hypocrites?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:10 amComment by dlet
Al Gore can become an effective speaker once he cuts his $1200+ electricity bill. No human should be consuming half that amount to comfortably live. And he owns other homes that carry an energy demand, does he not?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:10 amdlet: Easily debunked. The war makes us more secure while this concert is nothing but lots of hot air and pompous celebrities and washed-up politicians prancing around for PR.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:11 amAl Gore’s “resurrect the hippies” movement of 2007.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:13 am“The war makes us more secure”
Hi Frank! Care to explain this one? Declaritive statements with no support are just opinions, I declare.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:15 amProblem: Global Warming. So, let’s discuss: Al Gore’s electric bill. Hmmm. Sounds logical to me.
Frank M., more secure?! Isn’t the whole reason we’re fighting this war is to secure Iraqi’s oil? If we practiced some simple conservation then we wouldn’t need the Mid-East oil and would have no need to fight the war.
Or are you so stuck on Fox News that you’re going to tell us the 9/11 hijackers were connected to Iraq and Saddam Hussein?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:15 amAl Gore’s “resurrect the hippies†movement of 2007.
Hahaha! Good one.
At least some of the hippie girls were hot and kind of ditsy. Al Gore’s movement is most likely filled with lesbian feminazis who hate both men and conservative politics with equal vigor.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:16 amVinnie:
If you can’t take the heat, you shouldn’t live in a desert.
CT_V1:
Al Gore owns at least THREE properties. Besides their Nashville, Tennessee mansion, he has a farm near Carthage and a condominium at San Francisco’s St. Regis.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:16 amAnd he owns other homes that carry an energy demand, does he not?
Comment by CT_V1
Yeah I also read on Drudge that he leaves all the lights on in every place he owns just so that idiots can claim that Al Gore is a hypocrite. He also has a gasoline fountain that burns just to waste energy and create pollution. I also heard that he has genectically changed his lungs so that they produce greenhouse gases every time he exhales. Man that Al Gore is crazy like that.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:17 amJake,
It’s so interesting how you guys avoid the problem of global warming just to talk about Al Gore. I’m surprised you haven’t brought up his son’s troubles yet as if that shows that Gore must be wrong. This is NOT about Al Gore. It’s about a global climate crisis that you are suggesting we ignore.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:18 amLooks like the trolls are having to work overtime this morning. Another trolls circle jerk. “Ooooh, good point!” As if you hadn’t gotten your “points” from the same wingnut crib sheets.
Have fun, children. Thank god none of you will be breeding.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:18 amFrank M:
Superstars flying 222,623 miles between them to get to the LIVE EARTH concerts . . . but we are supposed to just “ignore” the hypocrisy ; )
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=466775&in_page_id=1879
July 7th, 2007 at 10:19 amComment by Vinnie
Why would you attempt skirt the issue of his energy consumption? He’s a hypocrite, plain and simple. He can cut his energy use to reasonable levels, then come back to run his mouth.
Don’t attempt to minimize my words because it causes you political discomfort.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:19 amVinnie + dbadass: Going to Iraq makes us safer in two ways.
One: it gives us access to oil which is the lifeblood of America. There are no alternative energy sources and there will not be any, at least in large scale, for decades to come. Wind and solar will never, ever scale up and fusion – which is the only realistic alternative – is still not working even in the lab.
Two: The militant islam must be kept under control. Europeans have already caved in and as of now the European Community is being run over by muslim immigrants. We will have an islamic Europe in twenty or so years. Therefore it is imperative that we discourage militant islam by a show of force whenever necessary. That’s what they’ll always understand.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:20 amAt least some of the hippie girls were hot and kind of ditsy. Al Gore’s movement is most likely filled with lesbian feminazis who hate both men and conservative politics with equal vigor.
Comment by Frank M — July 7, 2007 @ 10:16 am
Sources please? Frank I trust you are a thinking bipedal homonid. I think folks might be willing to listen to your ideas if they weren’t expressed as a bunch of nonsensical ramblings assembled in the absence of supporting data. I am happy to look at them objectively once this foundation of critical thinking has been met
July 7th, 2007 at 10:21 amComment by gummitch
Prove it, son. Prove our points to be incorrect, rather than using your talking points from Howard Dean.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:21 amLet’s assume for a second that Al Gore is a hypocrit and is consuming far more energy than he needs to, does that mean that the problem of global climate change can be ignored? If not, then what do you suggest we do about it?
Your whole MO here is to say that this problem can be ignored.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:22 amComment by dlet — July 7, 2007 @ 10:17 am
His electricity bill is the only record needed. The itemized tally of his consumption isn’t needed. Thank you for your attempt to skirt his obvious hypocrisy with sarcasm.
Al Gore does what he wants, not what he wants us to do, apparently.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:24 am#29: I don’t need your validation, but as you may have read in my post, I said “most likely”. It was just a conjecture based on my experiences with liberal chicks of today.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:24 amThe real failure here is the National Review. Have they ever actually been right about anything?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:28 amFrank:
July 7th, 2007 at 10:28 amCorrect me if I am wrong but did the greatest US military minds recently point out the state of the environment as a major force in global instability and are planning contingencies for such? Why support A grossly exxagerated modern day Crusade while denying a serious threat as identified by experts in the field? I deny not that the current unpleasantness is unpleasant but it will pass and our current strategy appears to be worsen that problem rather than addressing it in a more constructive problem solving paradigm
Frank,
You’re basically admitting that our oil addiction is bad enough that we need to start a pre-emptive war against a sovereign nation and to continue a military occupation of that country indefinitely simply in order to supply us with oil. If we switched towards more fuel-efficient vehicles using existing technology, we could have avoided this war altogether. Instead, our economy has just bled away 1.4 TRILLION dollars.
BTW, Iraq was NOT a muslim nation when we attacked it. Hussein, for all his faults, did keep Iraq secular. However, in no way am I buying into your irrational fear of all Muslims that seems to permeate you trolls.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:28 am“If we switched towards more fuel-efficient vehicles using existing technology, we could have avoided this war altogether. ”
Uh. No. Cars would still run on gas and we would still have to get our oil from the Middle East.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:29 amComment by Vinnie — July 7, 2007 @ 10:22 am
It means that Al Gore and the Hollywood suck-ups shouldn’t using the cause for PR and book deals. Al Gore has taken in more than he has put out throughout this “advocacy” charade.
Appoint somebody else who consumes less than $200 per month in total energy, to include air travel.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:29 amGod you’re pathetic, Frank.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:31 amWhy are the Republicans running so scared? Can it be that they have no celebs to boost their cause?? That they have no rhythm???
Of course, what makes them hate Al Gore is that he’s a millionaire who is pushing Kyoto. This is heresy. Socialist millionaires make the Right gag, foam, and spit venom.
What do they fear from this concert? That it will create a worldwide organization for action. It might put the Environment at the top of the political agenda. Whoa!
Remember. This is the Far Right that’s talking thru the butt of Malkin & Steyn. Their talk is a major cause of greenhouse gasses. This is the Far Right that thinks Rachel Carson is akin to Hitler & Stalin and the Darwin is an enemy of the people. They’re nuts. They’re anti-science, they’re anti-humanity. They are anti-LIFE.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:31 amwow. You can always tell when the troll are afraid. They must be REALLY AFRAID
July 7th, 2007 at 10:33 amProve it, son. Prove our points to be incorrect, rather than using your talking points from Howard Dean.
Comment by CT_V1
You got that backwards, as usual. When you make a claim, YOU back it up with proof. That way you prove the credibility of YOUR claims.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:33 amFrank M, you’re an ignorant fool. The world has mocked the size of American cars since the 1950s. It would be easy to reduce America’s gas consumption by 50%. And all cars do not run on gas. Go rent: Who killed the Electric Car?
BTW, you do know that America’s #1 supplier of oil and gas is CANADA. It’s not Saudi Arabia, it’s not anyone in the Middle East. Nope. It’s friendly old CANADA. But don’t expect us to be too friendly in the future if you keep these fascist clowns in office.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:34 amWind and solar will never, ever scale up and fusion – which is the only realistic alternative – is still not working even in the lab.
The militant islam must be kept under control.
Comment by Frank M
First, why do you hold so little regard for American ingenuity? Why do you hate America? I personally think that if we had a president with a grain of character at this moment the energy solution which would include wind and solar research would be worked on with the best and brightest this country has to offer. There could and would be solutions within years not decades. It just needs to be given the commitment some reserve for empire building disguised as “protection”. As for the containment of radical Islam in the ME I think that Saddam has the same idea. What happened to him again?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:35 amwow. You can always tell when the troll are afraid. They must be REALLY AFRAID
Comment by whiteyfresh
Your mentioned gibberish translates into Talking-points ™, sir.
More like, BLAH BLUH BLAH BLUH.
So afraid. When do you plan on issuing any factual response?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:35 amWho killed the Electric Car?
Uhhuh? And where would that electricity come from? That’s right. From oil, gas and coal.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:36 amHere’s one, Wayne:
http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367
July 7th, 2007 at 10:39 amBTW, Iraq was NOT a muslim nation when we attacked it. Hussein, for all his faults, did keep Iraq secular.
Comment by Vinnie
But now it IS an Islamic Republic, Bush really goofed that one. The trolls can’t blame that on”Liberals”, Heh
Not honestly at least.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:40 amBut then again, I don’t see
many honest trolls posting here.And here’s one for you, gummitch
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659
July 7th, 2007 at 10:41 amComment by CT_V1
A post about Gore’s electric bills neither discredits Global warming nor the purpose of the concert.
But then again, you think Libby commiting perjury and obstruction of justice is ok, so we understand you have problems thinking critically.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:49 amUPDATE II: Michelle Malkin plans her own benefit concert to coincide with the release of her new album, “I $@cking Hate Libs: The Musical.”
July 7th, 2007 at 10:49 amCT, again. You really can’t demolish the Green Movement based on the energy consumption of Al Gore’s Tennessee mansion. It’s no different than screaming that Gore is rich and wants to raise taxes on himself. I find that noble.
BTW, the so-called facts on Gore’s house are distorted. It offers no comparisons. It doesn’t disclose it’s Republican source. And it doesn’t qualify the actual nature of the mansion as an office as well as a dwelling. Nor do we have disclosures for the anti-Global Warming crowd about their energy consumption.
It’s all about ideology on the Right. Carter installed solar panels on the White House. Reagan ripped them out. Why? For no better reason than ideology. The GOP creed: Waste is Good.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:53 amhttp://abclocal.go.com/ ktrk/ story?section=nation_world&id=5072659
Comment by CT_V1
Did you read that link?
July 7th, 2007 at 10:54 am
Comment by Wayne
Uhhh…geez, Wayne. Allow me to refer you to post #38.
Al Gore is simply the wrong representative to the cause of Global Warming. How could one use an electricity bill to claim that GW doesn’t exist? Explain that one.
Also, I’ve also admitted that Libby was guilty, time and time and time again. The disagreement spurs from his sentencing. Why do you keep repeating old and answered questions?
Get your facts straight.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:54 amCheck your spelling, it’s Mark STAIN; as in grease spot or skid mark.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:55 amComment by david
Ahem.
He lives in a mansion. Those are the official records of his bills.
“Republican sources” Do you belong in college, kid?
You can’t win this one. He consumes more energy than any human being should. That harms the planet. Now shataap.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:56 amComment by Wayne — July 7, 2007 @ 10:54 am
He’s using too much electricity, that’s the bottom line. His tiny steps simply aren’t enough. He needs a usage overhaul to be an effective example and spokesperson.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:58 amComment by david — July 7, 2007 @ 10:53 am
Is the GOP preaching consumption? They make it obvious, while Al Gore lies. The subject is Al Gore, so get your story straight.
This comes from the “Republican sources” moron.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:00 amThe disagreement spurs from his sentencing.
Which every person who is convicted of the same crimes Libby was convicted of faces.
Did Bush commute anyone elses sentencing?
Is Bush requesting a change from congress to change the so called unfair sentencing guidelines?
Get your facts straight.
Comment by CT_V1
Take your own advice.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:00 amCT_V1-HOW MANY CARBON OFFSETS DO YOU PURCHACE? AND DO YOU RUN A HIGHER ENERGY INPUT(FROM CLEAN-SOURCE ENERGY) THAN YOU NEIGHBERS? ALSO, WHEN NOT CONSUMING AS MUCH ENERGY, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELL THE ENERGY YOU CREATE(THROUGH VARIOUS CLEAN SOURCES) ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY BACK TO THE ENERGY COMPANY? HUH?? DO YA?? DO YA???
July 7th, 2007 at 11:10 amComment by Wayne
The president has his constitutional powers and can decide to use them even in an unfavorable light. Next, I would like to see him commute/pardon the sentences/convictions of those two border patrol agents.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:10 amyou know what CT-V1
July 7th, 2007 at 11:12 ami think i can finally agree with you on something….
July 7th, 2007 at 11:12 amComment by whiteyfresh
I keep my electricity bill under $70.00 monthly. “Carbon offsets” is not an excuse from conserving electricity. I most certainly do my part.
You don’t have a case, dolt.
Please proceed to lame Al Gore defense #435….
July 7th, 2007 at 11:13 amTo clear up the trolls lies:
Al Gore uses alternative sustainable fuels (solar and wind) to power his home, not oil.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:17 amCT, get your facts straight. This isn’t a thread about Al Gore. You’re the troll trying to turn it into a Gore Event. It’s about Global Warming and how we have to reduce our energy consumption or carbon footprint. And yes, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research is a Republican front organization.
It’s laughable to dismiss Gore because he has a mansion. But that’s the Right. They always attack the messenger with a vengeance. The Right hated Gandhi and so they mocked his loincloth and simple lifestyle. Jesus was mocked for accepting the scented oil. and so it goes.
Mr Pee and CT can’t take it if someone from the Country Club isn’t GOP. They can’t take someone serious if they don’t wear a suit and shoot ducks. They just roll their eyes if they propose doing anything that is approved by the WSJ.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:17 amOf course Michelle Malkin is confused. Anything global that doesn’t involve killing people is beyond her comprehension.
Anyhoo…. 5 years ago we changed out every bulb in our home to compact fluroescent, and we haven’t had to replace a single one in all that time. It was costly at the time, but totally worth it. Also, we use powerbars for our electronics and don’t just turn them off with the remote, which is just energy-consuming standby, but at the powerbar to cut off the electricity completely.
What they are doing, Michelle Malkindinejad, is raising awareness to include those small things that matter, like we have done. It’s about decreasing consumption and working toward solutions so that our children and their children will have a chance to live the kind of life we hope for them.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:17 amComment by CT_V1
Ahhh, avoiding the questions. typical.
let me answer for you.
Did Bush commute anyone elses sentencing?
NO
Is Bush requesting a change from congress to change the so called unfair sentencing guidelines?
NO
In fact, for everyone else, Bush advocates the maximum sentences available and has ordered Gonzo to push the same.
The hypocricy of you repukes knows no bounds
July 7th, 2007 at 11:18 amThe fascist trolls on this thread dispise america.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:20 amWow, I try and respect your comments, and actually agree with you on pardoning the 2 border guards(personally, I think that was a messed up case all around-and they never should have gone to jail), and here you go insulting me. If I sling an insult at someone, It’s because they have PROVEN themselves to be complete jackasses/morons in the past.
lame(to you)ass excuse #1-it’s called the GOLDEN RULE.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:21 am# 69 GOES OUT TO CT-V1-YOU KNOW, 69!!(a number I’m SURE CT is totally unfamiliar with…)
July 7th, 2007 at 11:23 amAl Gore can become an effective speaker once he cuts his $1200+ electricity bill. No human should be consuming half that amount to comfortably live. And he owns other homes that carry an energy demand, does he not?
Comment by CT_V1
Al Gore is spending extra money so his house is powered by only “renewable energy sources” and it would have been even less if his idiot neighbors hadn’t made him take down the solar panels he put up.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:23 amThe fascists in our government can’t stand the fact that we are joining globally for this foray into a world that doesn’t include them. This concert is a raving success as we can all see and the fact that the temps are in the triple digits today only lends further factual legitimacy to the cause celebre.
This is the kind of unity we are capable of and the fascists in this country are very scared now. This concert is mending fences destroyed by bushitcos. The people on the planet will overpower these demons now and their reign of terror will come to a conclusion.
I think that’s really what this united effort is showing. And it’s all good.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:23 amBLACK EYED PEAS IN 20 MINUTES ON UK FEED!!! I must say, going to msnbc, clicking the WATCH LIVE EARTH link, and then boom, there you go. Steller job on the web layout!!!!
July 7th, 2007 at 11:25 amThe absurd argument that people are burning gas and Gore uses electricity is all they can say. After all it’s the anti-stewardship policies of this regime now in office that has created this dependency. This argument has absolutely no substance to it at all so give it up before you make greater idiots of yourselves.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:25 amgive it up before you make greater idiots of yourselves.
Comment by BetterLateThanNever — July 7, 2007 @ 11:25 am
and just when you thought it wasn’t possible, they do it AGAIN….
*sigh**
July 7th, 2007 at 11:26 amAl Gore owns at least THREE properties. Besides their Nashville, Tennessee mansion, he has a farm near Carthage and a condominium at San Francisco’s St. Regis.
Comment by Jake
We know, only neocons are allowed to own property and accumulate wealth. Got it. Welcome to the Fascist States of America.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:27 amwhoops hadn’t looked in a minute!!!
July 7th, 2007 at 11:27 amBlack Eyed peas on NOW!!!
This universal concert will trump anything bush is capable of and already has. I believe one can legitimately say that bush’s term is official over now. We can and will go over their heads as the individual states have and will do. this is an illegitimte government in the first place with it’s stolen elections, subversion of the laws of this country, and their impeachable offenses which continue daily.
This shows the power of the people who, when united, can accomplish global goals. We don’t need this sick government to tell us what to do. We’ll achieve it without them.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:28 amhttp://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp
In fact, let’s just go ahead and debunk ALL the absurd Al Gore smears so we can discuss Global Warming instead:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_controversies
July 7th, 2007 at 11:28 amGood for gore if he owns a thousand properties! How many does your friend King George own?? How about their post term hideout in Paraguay, idiot?
July 7th, 2007 at 11:28 am#79 How about this concert? Amazing, isn’t it?
It’s leaving the slick oil criminals in it’s wake.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:29 amand raising al gore to superstar status in the process. It’s a win/win I’d say.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:29 amjeebus they’re nutty….
July 7th, 2007 at 11:29 amComment by Duhvid
M’Kay, now, libetroll. This is a thread about Al Gore because he’s the wrong leader for this event, and he’s making GW advocacy appear to be a PR stunt. Reducing energy consumption is not enough, you have to reduce it to reasonable levels. Al Gore’s usage is still way excessive.
A spokesperson for the Gore didn’t dispute their findings. Her “carbon footprint” rebuttal, however, doesn’t make any sense. It all comes down to consumption.
Interest groups are quoted by either party constantly. Public records are reviewed, you know. They didn’t just pop random numbers.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:30 amwho increased our oil dependency? who did so to feather their own nests and offshore accounts? they’re sitting in the white house right now, that’s who.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:30 amSuperstars flying 222,623 miles between them to get to the LIVE EARTH concerts . . . but we are supposed to just “ignore†the hypocrisy ; )
Comment by Jake
Their job is to travel and give concerts. Or should they stay home and let the audiences fly to them. And you can’t keep a record contract if you don’t tour.
How many acts are traveling this weekend that aren’t part of this concert? Get back to us with that link, okay.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:30 amby the end of this day I suspect that the official end of the bush tyranny will come to a close. It’s apparent that it’s making a fool out of him and his group of thugs.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:31 amWe know, only neocons are allowed to own property and accumulate wealth. Got it. Welcome to the Fascist States of America.
Comment by shane — July 7, 2007 @ 11:27 am
Talk about hypocrisy – what happened to the Republican belief that rich people were automatically good people because they had worked hard for their money?
And unlike Paris Hilton, Al Gore DOES work…
Flaming idiots…
July 7th, 2007 at 11:31 amThis has given us that link to each other which is so essential in today’s world of separation. More power to the organizers of these spectacular events.
“Disenthrall ourselves and save our country….he just said the truth shall set you free.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:32 amComment by gummitch
Prove it, son. Prove our points to be incorrect, rather than using your talking points from Howard Dean.
Comment by CT_V1
We all agree with gummitch in his assessment of trolls. You prove him wrong if you can.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:33 amCT, it’s not about Al Gore. It’s about Global Warming. And it’s irrelevant to discuss his mansion if you can’t prove that it’s profligate use of energy. That means, you’ll need to discuss how many live and work in the house. How much security is involved. How much of the house is used as an office and communications base. And how much energy use is balanced through carbon offsets and renewable sources.
That said, and I know you rely on sources uninterested in researching those questions, it’s time to return to the topic of this thread Live Earth. What exactly frightens you about it? Why do you have your head stuck up your ar$e when it comes to Global Warming? The West is becoming another dust bowl and Australia is baking. The cost to civilization will be catastrophic. And all so you can run about in an SUV.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:34 amComment by shane
The bills in-hand were GAS and ELECTRICITY. No itemized indication of “renewable energy sources.” With or without panels, that amount of consumption is clearly unneeded to live comfortably.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:34 amGarth Brooks, that hippie-lovin’ ecofreak is on in DC now via Sundance channel. Singing about clean oceans and stuff. Damn commie!
July 7th, 2007 at 11:36 amIt means that Al Gore and the Hollywood suck-ups shouldn’t using the cause for PR and book deals. Al Gore has taken in more than he has put out throughout this “advocacy†charade.
Appoint somebody else who consumes less than $200 per month in total energy, to include air travel.
Comment by CT_V1
Why because you say so. You don’t even believe in evolution yet, and obviously you and your ilk are probably closer to the “missing link” than most of us. Keep dragging those knuckles boy, it makes it easier for you to carry water.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:37 amso let’s talk about many properties each of these trolls owns and what kind of vehicles they drive and then we can see who the real hypocrites are once and for all.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:37 amGod you’re pathetic, Frank.
Comment by TooSexyForMyShirt
Franks talking to himself, what a jackass.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:37 amwho needs bush and his corrupt administration when we can join with the entire planet?
July 7th, 2007 at 11:38 amWe all agree with gummitch in his assessment of trolls. You prove him wrong if you can.
Comment by shane
He can prove his talking points right. How’s that my responsibility to answer a question I didn’t ask? He asserted it.
Memo to shane: You are a troll in your own home. Heed that advice. No sane person should give a rat’s a*s about your agreement/disagreement about jack. Collect some Social Security, butt crust. So excited you must be.
I’m waiting for TP to ban you….
July 7th, 2007 at 11:39 amjust like al gore who answered the call and rose to a higher plateau of awareness, we can all now do the same. Answer the call and power down. us alone wastes 1 billion dollars a year when they are turned and shouldn’t be. hey trolls – do you power your computer down at night? what’s your light bill?
July 7th, 2007 at 11:39 amComment by BetterLateThanNever
Would we be the one’s mouthing off to others about consuming? That would be Al Gore’s hypocrisy. Go complain to him for making you do his dirty work.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:40 amI see the trolls have stopped conversation because they all own homes with high electric bills themselves. I’d bet not a one of them uses solar power themselves. And how about hybrid cars? No troll makes enough money to own one, thanks to our fascist car monopolies. guess when they have to answer the same questions themselve, they can’t and not become a total hypocrite.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:41 am#100 right now you’re just as big a hypocrite typing on your computer – sorry but your argument doesn’t is moot.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:42 amGore didn’t make the electric policies – bush did. Let’s talk about Cheney’s secret energy meetings for openers if you want to talk turkey and who is ultimately responsible for our oil dependency.
Of course you won’t because you can’t. laughing my ass off now.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:43 amOil dependency in the US = Cheney
July 7th, 2007 at 11:43 amI keep my electricity bill under $70.00 monthly. “Carbon offsets†is not an excuse from conserving electricity. I most certainly do my part.
You don’t have a case, dolt.
Please proceed to lame Al Gore defense #435….
Comment by CT_V1
Wow that’s impressive. I guess you can’t afford one of those double wides like everybody else in your neighborhood. What do you rent, a studio apartment over the local hardware store? You are such an effing loser it’s pathetic.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:44 amPoor CT, he still thinks he can make Global Warming go away by dissing Al Gore.
Can CT even discuss Global Warming without confusing it with Scooter Libby?
Of course, CT is stuck in the 50s and listens to the Beach Boys 24/7.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:44 amWhy because you say so. You don’t even believe in evolution yet, and obviously you and your ilk are probably closer to the “missing link†than most of us. Keep dragging those knuckles boy, it makes it easier for you to carry water.
Comment by shane
Hmmm.
I don’t think I’ve ever given an opinion on evolution. One down on your credibility, smelly hag.
It’s not because I say so, it’s the prerequisite to have a credible voice on energy preservation, you dried up piece of *hit. Don’t talk to anyone again about “energy preservation.”
July 7th, 2007 at 11:44 amhypocrite trolls really have no argument so there’s nothing happening here today. one would be better off putting their feet up and tuning into the great global concert. let these fools talk themselves around in circles which is what they do best.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:45 amShane: Guess what? These dumbed down trolls ARE the missing link. That’s why they go apeshit drooling all over themselves on TP threads.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:46 amCan anyone take Malkin seriously? She’s only a little better than Glenn Beck and Coultergeist on the spreading hate scale.
As usual for the Repubs, it’s attack the messenger because they have no real solutions for the problem. If you think the environment is “just peachy” then STFU and let people listen to a little music today. It’s no threat to you……unless you’re in some state of denial.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:46 amWow that’s impressive. I guess you can’t afford one of those double wides like everybody else in your neighborhood. What do you rent, a studio apartment over the local hardware store? You are such an effing loser it’s pathetic.
Comment by shane
You should exactly like an old b*tch in a double-wide. I’m surprised that anybody would give you even that living opportunity. You’re probably a bad nuisance to those who live around you. How many noise complaints are pending against you?
Bring in on, crusty granny.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:47 am112 degrees in Las Vegas and yesterday was even higher. 113 expected in Arizona today. Anyone not believe in global warming? The universe is cooperating and showing us just how important it is by this convergence today. Record temps? Only a fool continues to keep his head in the sand and only a trolltard keeps his head continually up his arss.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:47 amTroll logic escapes me. Let’s say Gore isn’t living up to the hype, just for argument’s sake? Do you really think it’s a waste of time to try to make some changes? Do you really think our lifestyle is eternally sustainable? Do you not think it makes a difference if each of us makes some contribution to cut oil consumption? Water consumption?
Here’s a little factoid from a book by Barbara Kingsolver that I’m reading, Animal, Vegetable, Miracle. Every food item we eat travels 1500 miles to get to us. Add to that the oil cost of production. If every person ate just one meal per week comprised of locally produced foods and meats, we would save 1.1 million barrels of oil per week.
That’s not buying into the global warming argument; it’s just common sense. We can’t live the way we do forever. Our children will pay a dear price for our lifestyle if we don’t make some changes.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:47 amtake malkin seriously? Are you kidding? There’s nothing there between the ears so she fills the prerequisite for being a republiscum.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:48 amThis shows the power of the people who, when united, can accomplish global goals. We don’t need this sick government to tell us what to do. We’ll achieve it without them.
Comment by BetterLateThanNever
Amen to that. The United States government can either jump on board or miss this train entirely. Missing it just puts us one step closer to the third world status Bushco has pushed us to.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:49 amcandyce: no republican dripping in dollars wants to change their evil ways even if it means that the planet will self-destruct. They assuage themselves by saying that they won’t live to see it. Nice stewards of the environment they are. Wrong.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:49 amMy only mode of transportation is a scooter that gets 85 miles to the gallon.If I NEED a car, I can use my wife’s. It gets 35 miles to the gallon(ave). Trolls? what’s your gas milage(on your car, not your BUTT)? Anyone of you live near enough to your job that you could sell your SUV and get a bike or scooter? would you?
***ahhhhhhh**dirty German Sheister music…..gotta luv it!!
:D
July 7th, 2007 at 11:50 amand raising al gore to superstar status in the process. It’s a win/win I’d say.
Comment by BetterLateThanNever
Another Amen. Black Eyed Peas are terrific. Al Gore is again one step ahead of the game.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:51 amever wonder why this country who is one of the biggest polluters to the planet is loathed internationally? this concert will definitely send the message that the policies of george bush do not reflect the will of the american people. the people are separating themselves once and for all from this evil dictatorship and bush’s reign will close today.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:51 amDuran Duran soon!!(UK)YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEHHHH!!!!!!
I gotta tell you, if I here “This could be goooood…” one more time I’m gonna puke…
July 7th, 2007 at 11:52 amthe people have reclaimed their power and will squelch bush’s abuse of power now.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:52 amgotta love Gore” Some people who don’t share the views with the rest of the world(or something like that)
DURAN DURAN!!!!!!ON NOW!!!
July 7th, 2007 at 11:53 amShane – the idiots in this country who corrupted the computers during the election and who wanted a president who was dumber than themselves got what they wanted. it’s obvious to all now that al gore was far too evolved and intelligent for the morons of this country. let’s go have a beer with the president rather than being proud because he has the intelligence to speak in public. We made (or the corrupted machinery did) our choice and now we suffer for it.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:53 amThis is a thread about Al Gore because he’s the wrong leader for this event, and he’s making GW advocacy appear to be a PR stunt.
Comment by PoopTROLLER L1
No this thread is about the concert and Steyn’s and Malkins stupidity in discussing it. Every one has a right to be stupid, but you abuse the privilege.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:54 amComment by david
Poor CT, he still thinks he can make Global Warming go away by dissing Al Gore.
As I’ve stated, the topic is the REPRESENTATIVE to the cause. You should get some remedial help. You have no credibility, kid. Keep tryin.’
Can CT even discuss Global Warming without confusing it with Scooter Libby?
Actually, your buddy ‘Wayne’ brought that up. I answered his question. Nice try.
Of course, CT is stuck in the 50s and listens to the Beach Boys 24/7.
Lame-o
You keep going back in time, David, acting as if I never issued a response to any of your lame postings. Is that your technique, to issue the same, same, same questions even long after I’ve answered them?
My answers are absolutely sufficient. You’ve resorted to lame attacks, so again, get out of college. It’s not doing you any good.
You’re icon UUL Gore has been undermined. I’m sorry that makes your stomach churn.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:54 amGore rocks!!!!!!!! He’s an amazing human being and makes all human beings proud regardless of their sex, race or creed.
Answer the call trolls. Is your cell phone charger plugged into the outlet with your phone being charged? HYPOCRITES
July 7th, 2007 at 11:54 amaNSWER THE CALL TROLLS – DO YOU USE POWER STRIPS THROUGHOUT YOUR HOME?
OR MAYBE TEA TIME – DO YOU FILL YOUR KETTLE EVERY TIME INSTEAD OF JUST BOILING ONE CUP? HYPOCRITES
July 7th, 2007 at 11:55 amWOW! WHAT A CONCERT!! A UNITED GLOBAL EFFORT. THIS IS AMAZING.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:56 ami guess if you only tuned in during the first 30 seconds of the festival/event, you could call it a “failure”. How dare those stadiums take a couple hours(during mostly 12 hr events) to become PACKED????
July 7th, 2007 at 11:56 amThis has given us that link to each other which is so essential in today’s world of separation. More power to the organizers of these spectacular events.
“Disenthrall ourselves and save our country….he just said the truth shall set you free.
Comment by BetterLateThanNever
From looking back on the 60s, those of us who can remember, will tell you that this is the kind of actions that made big changes. It is hard for even the Neadrathals who call themselves the Republican Party to ignore an event of this size.
And as for the pundits who said this would be a failure, look at the audience. Their projections are spot-off as usual.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:57 amLimbaugh’s ‘zipperheads’ are SO funny.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:58 am122-oops got distracted by DD.
-(cont)tried to keep us from performing in DC(IE Redipshitcans), but here we are!!”
July 7th, 2007 at 11:58 am# 69 GOES OUT TO CT-V1-YOU KNOW, 69!!(a number I’m SURE CT is totally unfamiliar with…)
Comment by whiteyfresh
Scholarly assertion.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:59 amUh. No. Cars would still run on gas and we would still have to get our oil from the Middle East.
Comment by Frank M — July 7, 2007 @ 10:29 am
Umm, no. They can easily run on biofuels for now. Biofuels which do far more for the planet than digging for oil could hope to do. Soy, corn, algae, jatropha, and many other plants are able to be used for biofuels to varying degrees of efficiency. Here in Florida, our farmers are eagerly awaiting pH and nutrient testing of jatropha. I happen to be very good friends with the individuals who are putting crops of the plant in the ground for the first time in the state, and whose tests the rest of Florida’s farmers wait with baited breath. Gotta find those ideal growing conditions, so the yield is the best it can be.
Biofuels are like oil fields that scrub the air until harvest time, helping in the way that any green plants help our environment. The yield of oil for jatropha is somewhere between four and eight times that of soybeans, and over ten times that of corn, for the same acreage. What’s more, plants like jatropha can be used for more than just fuel, being quite valuable in the pharmaceutical industry, among others. Even the raw materials left when the oil is pressed out, and the other valuable parts are harvested, can be used as fertilizer.
We also do not need the oil in the ground for lubricants. Hempseed oil, were it still mass produced in this country, is still one of the top lubricants desired by engineers around the world to this day. But, you know, hemp has no actual use, being all evil and stuff. So evil, our Founding Fathers required, by law, all citizens of this country who own land to grow hemp on it. Even without using such natural industrial lubricants, there are other solutions as well, pointed out below.
What we really need oil for, more than anything else, in this country, is the manufacturing of plastics. More oil goes to plastics than to everything else. But, we are now able to recycle materials down to such a degree with recycling plants made from over-the-counter parts, that we can render our garbage back into oil, and its other useful individual components. We have the ability to have our corporations and government alike not only recycling, but recouping much of their operating energy costs by recycling their garbage IN-HOUSE into a viable energy source, source for lubricants, etc.
There is no excuse to still be addicted to oil. There is no reason to begin preemptive wars of aggression to protect our addiction to this resource we can now get from elsewhere. None. The lies you spew, else the ignorance you drip like poison from your tongue, have no factual basis in reality. They are lies your ilk use to maintain their control over whatever the hell their twisted psychological needs push them to control. You and your so-called agenda is just pathetic. You’d rather see the world go down in a ball of flames with a small group at the top of the burning heap, than to have the resources of the earth used in such a way that everybody benefits and everybody profits. You’d rather use the resources selfishly than selflessly. Foolishly, rather than wisely. You’d rather see the earth destroyed than see some “God damned hippies!” prosper.
Selfish, greedy, self-destructive bastards.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:00 pmYou are a troll in your own home. Heed that advice. No sane person should give a rat’s a*s about your agreement/disagreement about jack. Collect some Social Security, butt crust. So excited you must be.
I’m waiting for TP to ban you….
Comment by CT_V1
Social Security at 53. What a country. Just because you collect that Disability check doesn’t mean we’re all on Social Security. Just what is your disability, mental?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:01 pmshane=i think its a butt-to-brain malfunction-instead of using the bathroom normally like the rest of us, the poo bypasses his but and comes straight out of his mouth…..
July 7th, 2007 at 12:03 pmIt’s not because I say so, it’s the prerequisite to have a credible voice on energy preservation, you dried up piece of *hit. Don’t talk to anyone again about “energy preservation.â€
Comment by CT_V1
Why, because you say so, TrollBREATH? Hey at least when I was your age I had a life. What have you got, your buddy Mr. President. Two trolls, one brain. And don’t you ever tell me what any of the progressives her can say, because we are tired of being bullied by you and your fascist buddies.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:04 pmShane: Guess what? These dumbed down trolls ARE the missing link. That’s why they go apeshit drooling all over themselves on TP threads.
Comment by BetterLateThanNever
I know, they’ve just closed the case for Darwin and they don’t even know it.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:05 pmImagine…
…how much energy the Iraq occupation uses.
…how much waste is produced by the Iraq occupation.
…how much aviation fuel all the military spent just to get to the Iraq. Doesn’t help with global warming, now does it?
…how much better the money spent on Iraq could have been spent in solving poverty and hunger all around the world.
…and so on.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:06 pmaNSWER THE CALL TROLLS – DO YOU USE POWER STRIPS THROUGHOUT YOUR HOME?
OR MAYBE TEA TIME – DO YOU FILL YOUR KETTLE EVERY TIME INSTEAD OF JUST BOILING ONE CUP? HYPOCRITES
Comment by BetterLateThanNever
Again, we don’t claim too, but the neverending requests from you people for Republicans to do your dirty work is appalling, frankly.
I ask again: how is your hippie movement credible when the head of this “movement” consumes 20 times more than the national average of electricity? And that’s only taking into account one of his properties.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:08 pmYou should exactly like an old b*tch in a double-wide. I’m surprised that anybody would give you even that living opportunity. You’re probably a bad nuisance to those who live around you. How many noise complaints are pending against you?
Bring in on, crusty granny.
Comment by CT_V1
I wouldn’t last long in a gated community making too much noise. But you probably have never seen a gated community in your part of Virginia. You and Mr. P are both from Virginia right? When they say Virginia is for lover, is that what they mean? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:08 pmSorry, diet already went there. I should read all the posts before posting.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:09 pmSelfish, greedy, self-destructive bastards.
Comment by Moderation
Exactly what I mutter every time I see a Humvee wheeling down the freeway.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:10 pmMichelle Malkin should never criticize anyone’s performance.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:12 pmHave you ever seen her sick cheerleader routine (the one where she resembles Seung-Hui Cho)?
WOW! WHAT A CONCERT!! A UNITED GLOBAL EFFORT. THIS IS AMAZING.
Comment by BetterLateThanNever
As a PROUD EX-HIPPIE, this warms my heart. I’m getting all misty eyed.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:13 pmI love the continual inability of the neocon Republicans to think beyond their next sound bite.
They decry the “hypocrisy” of the “Live Earth” artists and ignore the audience.
The audience consists of mostly young people somewhat under the age of most Republican fascists.
In 20 – 30 years they’ll be running the countries.
To paraphrase the Jesuits. “Give me the boy, and I’ll give you the man.”
So, go ahead and mock the concerts all you want.
Devine hypocrisy where you want.
You neocons are quickly joining the Dodo bird, . . . . and you don’t even know it.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:13 pmshane=i think its a butt-to-brain malfunction-instead of using the bathroom normally like the rest of us, the poo bypasses his but and comes straight out of his mouth…..
Comment by whiteyfresh
Excellent “visual” there whiteyfresh. Are you a copywriter? I’m not sure I can say thank you. Maybe after I get back from barfing …
July 7th, 2007 at 12:15 pmComment by CT_V1
Why, because you say so, TrollBREATH? Hey at least when I was your age I had a life. What have you got, your buddy Mr. President. Two trolls, one brain. And don’t you ever tell me what any of the progressives her can say, because we are tired of being bullied by you and your fascist buddies.
Comment by shane
At my age, you were probably frequenting bars and prostituting yourself, free of charge. You have no claim over me. For the first time in a long time, I’m enjoying the summer and I’ll be back full-force to all of my activities and work next month. Keep on repeating and projecting yourself. I’ll most certainly be more dignified come age 53.
Also, who I converse with isn’t an invitation for your crazy and disgusting projection, either. You’re a clear embarrassment. If TP begun cleaning house on trolls, I get the feeling you’d be ahead of myself and Mr. President.
You issued no credible response in regards to the topic. Thanks for wandering off, anyways.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:16 pmI ask again: how is your hippie movement credible when the head of this “movement†consumes 20 times more than the national average of electricity? And that’s only taking into account one of his properties.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 7, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
You are full of shit. Just because Al Gore, who happens to be fairly wealthy, owns a large home (and some other property) and uses *gasp* electricity in it, doesn’t mean he is the same as every other person paying that much per month on electricity. You may not like it, you might want to hear it, but Al Gore buys enough energy credits, and has been busily converting his home into an energy efficient, solar-using bastion of green. He puts his money where his mouth is.
As far as Gore using 20 times the energy as an average American? Well, duh. How about comparing his energy signature to that of the other people in his income bracket, who ALL spend VASTLY more on energy than the average American. Your distorting argument doesn’t hold any water when the comparisons aren’t merely statistical manipulations.
What’s your carbon energy signature, buddy? Mine is 279, but I am doing everything I can to make that lower. Six months ago, my energy signature was 349. Are you doing anything at all? Or would you rather just contribute to making our planet uninhabitable to our species. We will not destroy THE world, but we will destroy OUR world, if we continue down this path of greed and self-destruction.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:16 pmSorry, diet already went there. I should read all the posts before posting.
Comment by AkaDad
Nope, can’t say it enough. Keep on keeping on.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:17 pm***heehee****
July 7th, 2007 at 12:18 pmI’m the rare “Conservative” who believes humans are (in part) causing Global Warming and something should be done about it. Having said that, these concerts suck. They’re horribly produced and the singers (so far) are lame. Watching Gore kick the thing off in Washington D.C. was a lesson in stage management. He looked like bleep, his speech was un-inspired and Garth Brooks’ Mic didn’t work. Sheesh.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:19 pmAt my age, you were probably frequenting bars and prostituting yourself, free of charge.
Comment by CT_V1
Nope, at your age I was married, working full time and saving money to go back to college. Nice guess, but once again I think you’re confusing me with your mother, Trampzilla.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:20 pmnever been to a rally, eh, Glen?
July 7th, 2007 at 12:21 pm***heehee****
Comment by whiteyfresh
Okay, I feel better now. Thanks whitefresh.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:21 pmsingers ARE lame-by and far, in today’s musical industry. Without all the computers and post production-you get to hear just how “talented” most of today’s musicians are… Now, I saw Genenis earlier-perfect! Duran Duran was very good, and I can pretty well guarantee that RHCP
July 7th, 2007 at 12:24 pmI wouldn’t last long in a gated community making too much noise. But you probably have never seen a gated community in your part of Virginia. You and Mr. P are both from Virginia right? When they say Virginia is for lover, is that what they mean? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
There’s plenty of good housing in VA and I’m comfortable right where I’m at. My area also has a premier gated community housing ex-NFL players, northern VA high-level employees, and the like. I’m not obsessed with owning that big of a home.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:25 pmWOW- Germany’s stadium is PACKED!!!!!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:26 pmGlen, it hasn’t been perfect, but most of it’s been pretty incredible. The venue in Shanghai was stunning, and Sara Brighton was amazing, as always. The UK show has been great! I still love Phil Collins. Watching Paulo Nutini now – the man can riff!
All the venues are being shown on Sundance and Bravo as well.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:26 pmNope, at your age I was married, working full time and saving money to go back to college…
Comment by shane
I’ve already been doing all of that, marriage excluded (not that I care at this time). I’m at no disadvantage for taking a part of the summer off.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:29 pmSocial Security at 53. What a country. Just because you collect that Disability check doesn’t mean we’re all on Social Security. Just what is your disability, mental?
Comment by shane
LOL. I don’t believe in Social Security. Most people should have an obligation to prepare for their own retirements. Disability checks should be limited.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:33 pmJohn Butler Trio(Australia)-Quite Good!! I love this- at the least you are exposed to lots of musicians you didn’t know of before….(but hopefully people come away with more than that…)
July 7th, 2007 at 12:33 pmRed Hot Chili Peppers are on in the UK…
July 7th, 2007 at 12:38 pmNow CHili PePPers!!! what a geat day at work….
July 7th, 2007 at 12:40 pmhmmmm Anthony Keidas(sp?) sounds a little gravelly, but Flea is spot on and the rest sound great!!
July 7th, 2007 at 12:45 pmCT (aka Mr Pee), seems to think he’s making some point by attacking Gore. What that might be I don’t know.
I’m sorry. This is a Thread about Live Earth and how Steyn and Malkin have delared it a failure before it even started. That’s standard GOP spin. And an example of their Faux Journalism.
Then he just can’t get the idea of Gore having a big mansion out of his mind. As he sits in his trailer park swilling Coors Lite, he just can’t get his pinhead around the idea of a rich white Southern male selling out his own kind for the sake of the poor coloured non-American people of the World.
And that’s what makes me despise the GOP.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:46 pmwhiteyfresh, I liked John Butler Trio so much I downloaded a couple of their tunes. You’re right. Fun to see so many bands I’ve never heard before.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:50 pmPoor CT –and I do mean poor– what he means when he says he has the summer off finally is that he didn’t have to go to summer school. He’s a kid. And stupid, insensitive kid. He’s never even known a woman. And he’s off to accounting school at a third rate college hoping to game the system the way the brightest boys in the room did at Enron. That’s how he intends to reduce our energy consumption –by bankrupting the system.
July 7th, 2007 at 12:52 pmThese concerts are being held to bring awareness to Global Warming. They are doing a great job. Al Gore up on the D.C. feed…
http://entimg.msn.com/i/ExperienceData/p1-7/en-us/x.htm?sh=LiveEarthLive&g=9f240073-cf25-4402-bbb0-bd77c597c4ab
July 7th, 2007 at 1:10 pm“Who killed the Electric Car?
Uhhuh? And where would that electricity come from? That’s right. From oil, gas and coal.”
Comment by Frank M — July 7, 2007 @ 10:36 am
Hmmm, forgot about the Sun? If the Mars Rover could run for 12,000+ days on two solar panels, I’d think that we could come up with something just as efficient here on Earth.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:27 pmThe Global Warming concerts are like those “Time Share vacation packages”. Basically you get to go do something you want to do but you have to listen to someone drone on about something you could care less about for 15 minutes.
July 7th, 2007 at 1:31 pmI’d think that we could come up with something just as efficient here on Earth.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 7, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Yeah well Mars doesn’t have the polution we do blocking the effectiveness of the sun :)
July 7th, 2007 at 1:32 pmYeah well Mars doesn’t have the polution we do blocking the effectiveness of the sun :)
Comment by Tundra
You mean those greenhouse gases?
July 7th, 2007 at 1:45 pmHey, let’s find out how much electricity Bush’s little Texas “Ranch” uses!
July 7th, 2007 at 2:03 pmKooks, all of them!
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19927
July 7th, 2007 at 2:10 pmYeah well Mars doesn’t have the polution we do blocking the effectiveness of the sun :)
Comment by Tundra — July 7, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
Yeah, we here on Earth the double whammy of trapped greenhouse gases. Not only do they trap heat, via the greenhouse effect, they also prevent evaporation, via global dimming. That is why this is a global climate crisis, it’s not JUST that the world has been getting warmer.
For those who did not know, evaporation of water is not due to heat, it is due primarily to light exciting particles of water on the surface of the body of water, until they become excited enough to escape as water vapor. With more particles in our atmosphere, there is less evaporation on a global scale today than there was before industrialization. Scientists have slowly but surely been unraveling the secrets of the many and varied variables global climate change has been keeping. Many of the droughts in the ’70s and ’80s are now being attributed to global dimming. Without sufficient rainfall, drought is inevitable, and the timing is perfect. Moreover, we have been far more successfully in our fight against global dimming since the widespread phasing out of CFC aerosols. This means that global dimming is also not currently compensating whatsoever for the quickening pace of global warming. Dimming was holding back some of the dangerous feedback, contributing a cooling effect to compensate for the warming. For now, the particulate matter problem is being reversed faster than the carbon pollution problem.
I would not be surprised in the least if, in the end, the scientists link the ’70s hype of global cooling to in fact be attributable to global dimming. Before the globe could sufficiently heat up thanks to the greenhouse effect, the cooling effect of global dimming was outpacing it. But global dimming does not lead to the same kinds of feedback loops that global warming does.
July 7th, 2007 at 2:11 pmMetallica is kickin’ ass in the UK…
July 7th, 2007 at 2:15 pmStep up to the plate algore?
http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/03/al_gore_challenged_to_climate.html
July 7th, 2007 at 2:16 pm“Metallica is kickin’ ass in the UK…
Comment by AkaDad — July 7, 2007″
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July 7th, 2007 at 2:22 pmPoor michael, an little ann coulter’s a$$ kisser.
July 7th, 2007 at 2:29 pmSign the petition?
http://www.petitiononline.com/agdgw/petition.html
July 7th, 2007 at 2:30 pm“Poor michael, an little ann coulter’s a$$ kisser.
Comment by david — July 7, 2007″
Did your mommy help you compose that sentence? Dope!
July 7th, 2007 at 2:31 pm“The audience consists of mostly young people somewhat under the age of most Republican fascists.
Comment by Continuum — July 7, 2007″
You forgot to insert the word “stupid” in front of people! I was their age once and just as stupid. I grew up, went to college, got a job, bought a house, raised a family and realized what a dope I was when I was young. Believe me you dopes will one day mature.
July 7th, 2007 at 2:43 pmGore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate reported, “Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame.â€
Gore claims the snowcap atop Africa’s Mt. Kilimanjaro is shrinking and that global warming is to blame. Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, “Although it’s tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain’s foothills is the more likely culprit. Without the forests’ humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine.â€
Gore claims global warming is causing more tornadoes. Yet the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change stated in February that there has been no scientific link established between global warming and tornadoes.
Gore claims global warming is causing more frequent and severe hurricanes. However, hurricane expert Chris Landsea published a study on May 1 documenting that hurricane activity is no higher now than in decades past. Hurricane expert William Gray reported just a few days earlier, on April 27, that the number of major hurricanes making landfall on the U.S. Atlantic coast has declined in the past 40 years. Hurricane scientists reported in the April 18 Geophysical Research Letters that global warming enhances wind shear, which will prevent a significant increase in future hurricane activity.
Gore claims global warming is causing an expansion of African deserts. However, the Sept. 16, 2002, issue of New Scientist reports, “Africa’s deserts are in ’spectacular’ retreat . . . making farming viable again in what were some of the most arid parts of Africa.â€
Gore argues Greenland is in rapid meltdown, and that this threatens to raise sea levels by 20 feet. But according to a 2005 study in the Journal of Glaciology, “the Greenland ice sheet is thinning at the margins and growing inland, with a small overall mass gain.†In late 2006, researchers at the Danish Meteorological Institute reported that the past two decades were the coldest for Greenland since the 1910s.
Gore claims the Antarctic ice sheet is melting because of global warming. Yet the Jan. 14, 2002, issue of Nature magazine reported Antarctica as a whole has been dramatically cooling for decades. More recently, scientists reported in the September 2006 issue of the British journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society Series A: Mathematical, Physical, and Engineering Sciences, that satellite measurements of the Antarctic ice sheet showed significant growth between 1992 and 2003. And the U.N. Climate Change panel reported in February 2007 that Antarctica is unlikely to lose any ice mass during the remainder of the century.
July 7th, 2007 at 2:48 pm“who increased our oil dependency? they’re sitting in the white house right now, that’s who.
Comment by BetterLateThanNever — July 7, 2007″
How?
July 7th, 2007 at 2:51 pm“I don’t see many honest trolls posting here.
Comment by Wayne — July 7, 2007″
You don’t think I’m honest Wayne? Why?
July 7th, 2007 at 2:52 pmmichael, since you aren’t clever enough to post a link to the original article (tsk, tsk) in your screed at #184, I’ll let you look up then post the author’s name, then we’ll all have a good laugh.
July 7th, 2007 at 2:56 pmMark Steyn is brilliant, he’s my favorite columnist.
July 7th, 2007 at 2:58 pmInteresting, I grew up, went to college, got a job, bought a house, am in the process of raising a family and have managed to hold on to my humanity. It’s amazing how some of us will always feel a connection to one another while others lose their way by becoming egotists.
July 7th, 2007 at 2:59 pm#184 – michael
Cite your source for that cut and paste job, you idiotic plagiarizer.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:04 pmLet’s throw a big concert and raise enough money to lower the Earth’s temperature.
Pop music will save the world!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:04 pmI’ve just sent a formal request to the RNC for better trolls for this website. These guys aren’t even trying.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:05 pmI’ve just sent a formal request to the RNC for better trolls for this website. These guys aren’t even trying.
Comment by Perry Logan
And they smell like three day-old pee.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:08 pmStill waiting for michael the plagiarizer to cite his source. It’s not that hard, michael. Highlight the address in the browser, right click and choose copy, then come back here and right click and choose paste. Or just type the author’s name in a comment.
That’s really bad form, man.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:11 pmA lot of people don’t like Live Earth because it wasn’t designed to kill people.
Can you imagine people complaining about this charity event to save the planet? These are the same people who claim they are “supporting our troops” when they are sent to the senseless slaughter in Iraq. They are the same people who favor torture, warrantless surveillance, etc. and yet have the nerve to call themselves patriots.
And those of us who believe in the sovereignty of WE THE PEOPLE, our unalienable rights, and human dignity — they call us traitors! They live in a bizzaro world. But here on earth, the majority of us Americans are true patriots.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:12 pm“michael, since you aren’t clever enough to post a link to the original article (tsk, tsk) in your screed at #184, I’ll let you look up then post the author’s name
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007″
First off, I cut and pasted that from another thread! Second, who cares who the original author is. It could have been Coulter, Limbaugh, or even Savage. Whoever it was they were quoting sources. I know that’s foreign to you liberals. So instead of questioning the articles author you should be challenging people/institutions like American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate, the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, hurricane expert Chris Landsea, hurricane expert William Gray, the April 18 Geophysical Research Letters, the Sept. 16, 2002, issue of New Scientist, a 2005 study in the Journal of Glaciology, researchers at the Danish Meteorological Institute, the Jan. 14, 2002, issue of Nature magazine, the September 2006 issue of the British journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society Series A: Mathematical, Physical, and Engineering Sciences, and the U.N. Climate Change panel.
There, I did all the work for you. These are the sources you need to refute not the person who wrote the article. I can’t wait for your response!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:15 pmNo, michael, that’s not how it works. When you try to pass something in writing off as your own, it’s called plagiarism. It is incumbent on you to include the author’s name, since it is the author that is citing these sources. Now try again, or are you too embarrassed to post his name?
July 7th, 2007 at 3:22 pm#
Imagine…
…how much energy this concert uses.
…how much waste is produced by this concert.
…how much aviation fuel all the artists and audience spent just to get to the concert. Doesn’t help with global warming, now does it?
…how much better the money spent on this concert could have been spent in solving poverty and hunger all around the world.
…and so on.
Hypocrites. That’s what you are.
Comment by Frank M — July 7, 2007 @ 9:40 am
You don’t understand, Frank. There are good uses of energy and bad uses of energy.
Good uses: Concerts, jets, heating swimming pools, and whatever else promotes the far left agenda, democrats, unions. These are the stewards of the environment.
Bad uses: Driving to work, dropping your kids off at school, home heating and cooling. These are the evil silver surfer destroyers of the planet.
The debate is over: I’m going jet skiing!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:23 pmHey Al the Goracle III
Got any more doobies?
Yeah! Woooo! Peace on Earth man!
I’m so high right now!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:25 pmMuckdog, Frank M.
Good thing there’s no justice, or else you’d live in the world you’d like to create….one where we pretend or fool ourselves into believing:
1. People don’t affect the environment, and so they shouldn’t ever take care of it.
2. Torture, warrantless surveillance, carnage in Iraq, sending our soldiers to our death is “supporting them”…just so we frame these things differently.
3. People who are ready to give up our unalienable rights whenever a car explodes are “patriots”.
I could add to this long list of nonsense that you under 30%ers and dead enders believe, but why bother?
July 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pmNo, michael, that’s not how it works. When you try to pass something in writing off as your own, it’s called plagiarism. It is incumbent on you to include the author’s name, since it is the author that is citing these sources. Now try again, or are you too embarrassed to post his name?
Comment by Candyce
Too funny. Candyce, the michael troll just isn’t all that bright. :D
July 7th, 2007 at 3:28 pm“Now try again, or are you too embarrassed to post his name?
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007″
So, you can’t refute any of the sources? I didn’t think so!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:28 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 7, 2007 @ 12:25 pm
Your damn right CT!!!
Virginia, the Best State Ever, in the Best Country Ever, Ever!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:28 pmOh there you are Zooey!
Zooey, what is a straw man argument?
(nobody help her, she needs to learn)
July 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThese are the evil silver surfer destroyers of the planet.
These are the stewards of the environment.
Just that simple. Black and White. Good vs evil. Repulicans and Dems.
I wish it was that simple for me. But I see a more complecated world. Go jet skiing. We’ll take it from here.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pmZooey,
Use “the googles”
July 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pmCome on, michael. Post the author’s name for us. I can understand why you’re embarrassed, but if you want to discuss this further, you need to get honest. I can’t deal with people who steal the written word from others. I could post his name, but that would be enabling you, and as a Democrat, I’m not into enabling bad acts like Republicans are.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:31 pmStarve the trolls; feed the planet.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:31 pmZooey,
Use “the googlesâ€
Comment by Mr. President
The michael troll posted that crap, he needs to cite it. Typical that you would back up a troll doing something you would never accept from real people. Very weak-minded of you, Mr President.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:32 pm“(nobody help her, she needs to learn)
Comment by Mr. President — July 7, 2007″
She needs to learn a lot more than just a straw man. zooey, how about explaining to all of us why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
July 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pmStarve the trolls; feed the planet.
Comment by Publicus
They do make excellent fertilizer!
Don’t ask how I know that….
July 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pmShe needs to learn a lot more than just a straw man. zooey, how about explaining to all of us why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Comment by michael
Another weak mind….
Post the citation to your cut and paste, you lame-brained plagiarizer.
Thanks for PROVING your lack of integrity for us, michael.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:35 pm“Come on, michael. Post the author’s name for us. I can understand why you’re embarrassed, but if you want to discuss this further, you need to get honest. I can’t deal with people who steal the written word from others. I could post his name, but that would be enabling you, and as a Democrat, I’m not into enabling bad acts like Republicans are.
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007″
To be quite frank I don’t know who the author is. It’s not important. What he/she printed is, and it’s quite obvious you don’t have the nerve or intelligence to refute any of his/her sources!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:36 pm“I can understand why you’re embarrassed
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007″
The only embarrassment I am shedding is for your sidestepping the issues because you are unable to challenge any of the sources!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:38 pmGeez, ignore the trolls already!
Do we need to waste our breath on them? They’re happy to kill the planet, support torture, destroy our unalienable rights, and send our kids to be maimed and slaughtered in Iraq (something they call “supporting the troops”.
There is NO DEFENSE for any of this, which is why they play word games. Let them…ummm…play with themselves…
July 7th, 2007 at 3:41 pmComment by Zooey — July 7, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
YOU accused me of using the straw man technique last night, but I don’t think you even know what it means!!!
This has nothing to do with michael, unless you falsely accused him of the same thing!!!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:42 pmShut up Michael. Plagiarist. Site your source.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:43 pmYou’re right Publicus.
But it’s hard to ignore the little freaks. like that pesky little scab, you can’t keep from picking on.
Hey Michael. Did anybody you know of write a snappy comeback to calling you scabs?
You could copy and paste that one too. Then people might think your smart.
Sorry Publicus. I lost control. I’m ashamed.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:47 pmOk, sorry, michael. We are done here. You quote at length an article then say you don’t care who the author is, nor are you even curious about who the author is. Yes, it is important to know the source of an opinion piece, and it’s unfortunate you don’t know that.
Additionally, one or two sentences out of a couple of magazines or journals does not cement your argument for you. Read the whole articles and see what else they have to say.
Now, if you want to pretend that all is well with the global environment, go for it. If you want to pretend that our fuel-driven nations can be sustained forever at current levels, then go for it. I’m sure you can find many other authors from the Federalist Society and the Cato Institute and the Heartland Institute (yeah, those are clues) who will support your viewpoint.
Have a great day, and rock on, baby!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:47 pmhow about explaining to all of us why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Comment by Ann (posing as “michael”) Coulter — July 7, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Are you going to start back in with this crap again? As we told you last night, you haven’t told us if you went into the active reserves (like Kerry) or the inactive reserves (like most of us). Nor have you given even the slightest of clues about how this relates to Carter’s amnesty program (which gave you conservatives Lee Greenwood).
You didn’t win last night and you won’t win today if you keep using straw man arguments, Miss Coulter.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Have a great day, and rock on, baby!
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007″
And if you want to pretend that what was said in the article was not true without attempting to refute even one, you are putting on display for all your liberal buddies to see, a great deal of ignorance!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmshut up plagairist
July 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pmZoobie
Put down the doobie
Explain the straw man argument… to me
July 7th, 2007 at 3:54 pmPlagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnap”) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into ones own without adequate acknowledgment.
from Dictionary.com
That’s how it works, plagiarist
July 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmExplain the straw man argument… to me
Comment by Mr. President — July 7, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
You only want her to do that because you don’t understand what everyone accuses you of.
July 7th, 2007 at 3:58 pmSign the petition?
http://www.petitiononline.com/agdgw/petition.html
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Thanks Michael, I signed!
I will bookmark the site and get others to sign too!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pm“if you went into the active reserves (like Kerry)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 7, 2007″
Nonsense! The active reserve would not have stood for one of it’s officers traveling the world bad mouthing the military like kerry did upon his release from active duty. The active reserve would not have allowed one of their officers to meet with the enemy in Paris like kerry did. The active reserve would not have stood by while one of its officers was tossing his ribbons over the White House fence like kerry did. So wayne, from now on when I ask zooey why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge, I’ll include your name on the challenge until I can get an honest answer from one of you!
July 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmPlagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnap”) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into ones own without adequate acknowledgment.
from Dictionary.com
July 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pm“I will bookmark the site and get others to sign too!
Comment by Mr. President — July 7, 2007″
Good job! Of course algore is too afraid to accept the challenge but the more signatures we get the more pressure on the left!
July 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pmWayne A. Sophist Schneider,
Wrong again, Wayne m’boy!
I know perfectly well what it is,
and I believe you do too!
;)
No more clues, she has to learn!
July 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pm“Plagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnapâ€) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into ones own without adequate acknowledgment.
from Dictionary.com
Comment by willyloman — July 7, 2007″
And for who’s benefit is this post?
July 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmPlagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnap”) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into ones own without adequate acknowledgment.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmfrom dictionary.com
Good job! Of course algore is too afraid to accept the challenge but the more signatures we get the more pressure on the left!
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
http://www.petitiononline.com/agdgw/petition.html
Of course, but then, if he didn’t know what he was talking about, he should never have made the movie!
July 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pmzooey/wayne, waiting for an explanation?
July 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmFirst off, I cut and pasted that from another thread!
comment by Michael
Plagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnapâ€) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into ones own without adequate acknowledgment.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pmfrom dictionary.com
“Of course, but then, if he didn’t know what he was talking about, he should never have made the movie!
Comment by Mr. President — July 7, 2007″
Well you and I know that but these dopes here don’t!
July 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pmComment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
And yet you refuse to answer my clarifying question about your service. You make a big deal out of how it only took you x-amount of time to get yours, but you won’t answer a question that could explain the differrence.
And, for the record, I do not believe any of us cares why this was, if it really was. Explain what difference it makes. Why is it so important to know?
July 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pmWayne; he can’t answer your question until someone writes it for him. Then he can cut and paste it here. Give him time. he’s got to look up something that sounds smart for him to “say”.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pmWhen you’re dealing with a known plagiarist, you really can’t trust anything they say anyway.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pmFirst off, I cut and pasted that from another thread!
comment by Michael
Plagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnapâ€) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into ones own without adequate acknowledgment.
from dictionary.com
just in case people here forgot what Michael said…
July 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pmhttp://entimg.msn.com/i/ExperienceData/p1-7/en-us/x.htm?sh=LiveEarthLive&g=fd3116b3-ebc3-439e-a9a0-2bb5dbf305cb
Al Gore speaking now on Live Earth. DC
July 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pm1 billion people will listen to what he says today.
They will go out of their way to hear him.
Trolls have to slither here and squeal out their spite. They hope that 10 people hear their pathetic voices.
Do the math, trolls. And know how important your voice is.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pm“And yet you refuse to answer my clarifying question about your service”
What does my service have to do with anything. I served that’s all you have to know. You served that’s all I have to know!
You make a big deal out of how it only took you x-amount of time to get yours
I’m not making a big deal out of how long it took me. All my friends at the time (60’s) went into the service. We all got out within a year of each other and became part of the inactive reserves and received our Honorable Discharges within a year. Back then that was a big deal because employers wanted to see it. As I printed above kerry would not have been allowed to do the things he did if he were part of the active reserves. So, why didn’t he get his Honorable Discharge around the same time the rest of us did?
“And, for the record, I do not believe any of us cares why this was, if it really was. Explain what difference it makes. Why is it so important to know”
Because kerry made his service the centerpiece of his campaign!
July 7th, 2007 at 4:20 pm“just in case people here forgot what Michael said…
Comment by willyloman — July 7, 2007″
Hey willy, you want to take a shot at refuting some of the things I wrote or are you going to run away like candyce?
July 7th, 2007 at 4:23 pmWhere did you copy and paste that one from, Michael?
July 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmWhen you’re dealing with a known plagiarist, you really can’t trust anything they say anyway.
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
That is the single most important point that Michael doesn’t seem to grasp. Once you’ve been caught plagarizing, especially if it is public and you then refuse to recant or otherwise amend your mistake, going so far as to say citing your sources doesn’t matter for you, in this instance, everything else you write or have previously written becomes suspect.
If you were a professional journalist, the past tense in that statement would be permanent, Michael. If you were a professional author, this kind of plagarism would force publishers to turn away from you wholesale, Michael. If you were a student caught plagarizing on one of your papers, you’d get an “F”, you might even get kicked from your class, or you might get booted from your school altogether, Michael. Plagarism is a serious breach of trust, Michael. You need to take the time to make things are done correctly the first time, Michael.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmYou didn’t “say” them. You didn’t think them.
By your own admission you copied and pasted them.
you aren’t worth the time. Because you aren’t authentic. You are a thief.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmThat is the single most important point that Michael doesn’t seem to grasp. Once you’ve been caught plagarizing, especially if it is public and you then refuse to recant or otherwise amend your mistake, going so far as to say citing your sources doesn’t matter for you, in this instance, everything else you write or have previously written becomes suspect. by Moderation
You want to know why i keep posting the definition Michael?
Moderation has summed it up BEAUTIFULLY.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pmWhy should Ann “michael” Coulter’s plagiarism surprise anyone?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/In_new_book_Coulter_cribs_stem_0614.html
July 7th, 2007 at 4:32 pmBye Michael. Thanks for playing.
But “if you can’t run with the big dogs…” well, you know the rest.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmYou want to know why i keep posting the definition Michael?
Moderation has summed it up BEAUTIFULLY.
Comment by willyloman — July 7, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
I think I’m on his ignore list (not that this particular troll has ever mentioned having one specifically). He never responds to anything I post, even direct responses to him. Ah well, the sure sign of an actual troll, I suppose. I suppose it is because he seems incapable of forming a cohesive argument of his own. So, he plagarizes, cuts and pastes, and otherwise refuses to do any actual work himself, letting others do the talking (and perhaps thinking?) for him.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pmyusef islam on live earth.
July 7th, 2007 at 4:58 pm“Where did you copy and paste that one from, Michael?
Comment by willyloman — July 7, 2007″
It doesn’t matter! What does matter is you can’t refute any one of those statements that challenges your dopey hero algore! As a matter of fact you won’t even try. Not one of you. How about you moderation? How about you wayne? How about you candyce?
July 7th, 2007 at 5:21 pmIt doesn’t matter! What does matter is you can’t refute any one of those statements that challenges your dopey hero algore! As a matter of fact you won’t even try. Not one of you. How about you moderation? How about you wayne? How about you candyce?
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
Just the kind of response we’d expect from Ann Coulter.
I’ll tell you what, michael. I claim that YOU are, in fact, Ann Coulter. Now prove me wrong.
We’ll “argue” your way – I say that you’re really Ann Coulter, now prove that I’m incorrect.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pm“one or two sentences out of a couple of magazines or journals does not cement your argument for you. Read the whole articles and see what else they have to say.
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007″
What else could the article say if one of their conclusions is “Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame.†Huh? What else? Glaciers are melting?
July 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pm“I’ll tell you what, michael. I claim that YOU are, in fact, Ann Coulter. Now prove me wrong.
We’ll “argue†your way – I say that you’re really Ann Coulter, now prove that I’m incorrect.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 7, 2007″
Stop flattering me! That’s not going to get you off the hook. Now, take a deep breath and try to refute just one of those scientists conclusions. Just one?
July 7th, 2007 at 5:31 pm“The West is becoming another dust bowl and Australia is baking. The cost to civilization will be catastrophic.
Comment by david — July 7, 2007″
Oh please? Just which liberal website did you pick up this trash from?
July 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pm“Singing about clean oceans and stuff. Damn commie!
Comment by Candyce — July 7, 2007″
Nutcase yes! Commie no.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:38 pm“When do you plan on issuing any factual response?
Comment by CT_V1 — July 7, 2007″
Don’t go looking for much from the liberals on this site!
July 7th, 2007 at 5:40 pmFirst off, I cut and pasted that from another thread!
comment by Michael
Plagiarism (from Latin plagiare “to kidnapâ€) is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship or incorporating material from someone else’s written or creative work, in whole or in part, into ones own without adequate acknowledgment.
from dictionary.com
just in case people here forgot what Michael said…
July 7th, 2007 at 5:40 pmWhile Bush has always been a follower, Gore has always been a leader. Bush has always needed so called elders like Cheney, and Rumsfeld to hold his hand and tell him what to say. Gore has been a leader from the beginning. He has led on this extremely important issue of global warming. It is a moral issue and we must follow Gore’s lead on this critical issue while this president sits and does nothing.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pm“Gore has been a leader from the beginning. He has led on this extremely important issue of global warming. It is a moral issue and we must follow Gore’s lead on this critical issue while this president sits and does nothing.
Comment by Probus — July 7, 2007 ”
And he has been refuted on many of his dumb claims. Read post #184.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:44 pmA copy/paste to refute michael’s copy/paste…
…The Green Miles will be packing up the Purple Car tomorrow and driving up to New Jersey for the Live Earth climate change awareness concert. I’ll get a review posted here next week!
Amazingly, just days before the concert, a front group with ties to General Motors and major funding from Big Oil was still attacking Gore and his beliefs.
James M. Taylor’s op-ed appeared in the Chicago Sun-Times, primary employer of that paragon of journalism, Robert Novak. It accuses Gore of citing disproven theories in his recent book, “The Assault on Reason.”
Taylor is listed as “a senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.” It’s immediately apparent that Taylor brings no substance to the table — only a prodigal talent in a favorite conservative tactic, trying to establish a flaw in one of Gore’s supporting anecdotes and claiming that one flaw invalidates the entire book. The column is a 681-word “yeah, but ….”
One of Taylor’s claims in particular set of my BS alarm:
Gore claims global warming is causing an expansion of African deserts. However, the Sept. 16, 2002, issue of New Scientist reports, “Africa’s deserts are in ’spectacular’ retreat . . . making farming viable again in what were some of the most arid parts of Africa.”
A quick Google search revealed “New Scientist” magazine is not a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Even its own editor admits “New Scientist” is “an ideas magazine – that means writing about hypotheses as well as theories.” Not exactly dripping with credibility.
On the other hand, United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon says climate change is drying up Africa’s farmland, triggering war as groups compete for disappearing resources. And a blue-ribbon panel of 11 of the most senior retired U.S. admirals and generals, not exactly bleeding-heart liberals, says climate change threatens our own national security.
****Now to the Heartland Institute. Its SourceWatch page is a veritable who’s who of people and companies who profit by denying climate change and trying to keep America addicted to oil.
Just to name a few:
– Walter F. Buchholtz, an ExxonMobil executive, serves as Heartland’s Government Relations Advisor
– James L. Johnston, Amoco Corporation (retired), member of Heartland’s board of directors
– Thomas Walton, an executive of General Motors Corporation, member of Heartland’s board of directors****
It’s not just leadership that Big Oil contributes to Heartland. According to ExxonSecrets.org, the Heartland Institute has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from ExxonMobil corporate and the ExxonMobil Foundation in just the last decade.
The science behind global warming is sound and solid. The planet is warming, greenhouse gas emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are to blame, and we must cut carbon emissions at least 80% by 2050 at the latest to curb warming’s worst effects.
To get the truth, read RealClimate.org. And to learn how to refute climate change deniers like Taylor, read Grist’s “How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic.”…
July 7th, 2007 at 5:53 pmStop flattering me!
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
That’s not flattery, Ann, since I have nothing good to say about you. Okay, maybe one thing. I don’t have to listen to the sound of your voice every day like you do.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:53 pmI like this one Michael:
That is the single most important point that Michael doesn’t seem to grasp. Once you’ve been caught plagarizing, especially if it is public and you then refuse to recant or otherwise amend your mistake, going so far as to say citing your sources doesn’t matter for you, in this instance, everything else you write or have previously written becomes suspect. by Moderation
don’t you?
July 7th, 2007 at 5:53 pmSidetrack
To divert from a main issue or course
Dictionary.com
What willy is doing.
July 7th, 2007 at 5:57 pm“That’s not flattery
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 7, 2007″
But to me it is! Thank you very much!
July 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pmWhat willy is doing.
Comment by michael
What Willy is doing is calling you on your plagiarism.
What Willy and everyone else here is doing is saying they will accept differing opinions,
but not literary theft. It is dishonest and unacceptable. And that is what you did, Michael.
By your own admission.
And it will follow you far beyond this one thread.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:02 pmYou notice Michael (you would if you weren’t so busy looking for your next post on Redstate) that not even the trolls are backing you on this one?
Why? because they can’t stand a thief either.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:04 pmwillyloman,
If “michael” is “flattered” at being called Ann Coulter, then oblige him/her/it.
I still insist that it really is Ann Coulter. I mean, if she wanted to post on a progressive blog, this would be a good choice.
And “michael” also has that plagiarism thing in common with Coulter.
Maybe I’ll just refer to him as “michaelgeist”
July 7th, 2007 at 6:07 pm“Taylor is listed as “a senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.†It’s immediately apparent that Taylor brings no substance to the table”
You and algore do?
A quick Google search revealed “New Scientist†magazine is not a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Even its own editor admits “New Scientist†is “an ideas magazine – that means writing about hypotheses as well as theories.†Not exactly dripping with credibility.
” And a blue-ribbon panel of 11 of the most senior retired U.S. admirals and generals, not exactly bleeding-heart liberals, says climate change threatens our own national security”
You’re right, not exactly bleeding heart liberals and not exactly any level of scientists.
****Now to the Heartland Institute. Its SourceWatch page is a veritable who’s who of people and companies who profit by denying climate change and trying to keep America addicted to oil.
Just to name a few:
- Walter F. Buchholtz, an ExxonMobil executive, serves as Heartland’s Government Relations Advisor
- James L. Johnston, Amoco Corporation (retired), member of Heartland’s board of directors
- Thomas Walton, an executive of General Motors Corporation, member of Heartland’s board of directors****
It’s not just leadership that Big Oil contributes to Heartland. According to ExxonSecrets.org, the Heartland Institute has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from ExxonMobil corporate and the ExxonMobil Foundation in just the last decade.
Ah yes, those terrible oil companies!
The science behind global warming is sound and solid. The planet is warming, greenhouse gas emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are to blame, and we must cut carbon emissions at least 80% by 2050 at the latest to curb warming’s worst effects.
Nonsense! Where do you get this rubbish from?
July 7th, 2007 at 6:07 pmMaybe I’ll just refer to him as “michaelgeistâ€
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
That’s a done deal. michaelgeist it is
July 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmAl Gore who won the popular vote in 2000 would have made a wonderful president. Bush was not elected by the American people in 2000. The Supreme Court declared him president despite widespread vote fraud by the republicans after they found out they had lost the popular vote. Under Gore’s leadership we wouldn’t have had 9-11, the incompetent response to hurricane Katrina, and the unnecessary Iraq war. Bin Laden would have been caught. Gore is a moral leader. God bless him for all the good work he has done on behalf of the American people in raising awareness of global warming.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmDon’t forget the Diebold fraud of 2004 in Ohio.
This President has stolen his office twice. Given, I should say. he can’t put together correctly structured sentance, mush less steal two elections.
Gore is doing some really good work. He deserves to run for President again.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:12 pm“much less” heeheehee
July 7th, 2007 at 6:13 pm“And it will follow you far beyond this one thread.
Comment by willyloman — July 7, 2007 ”
Considering the source (liberals), I not worried!
July 7th, 2007 at 6:15 pm“Nonsense! Where do you get this rubbish from?”
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
All of a sudden the source matters? To use your argument…
“To be quite frank I don’t know who the author is. It’s not important. What he/she printed is, and it’s quite obvious you don’t have the nerve or intelligence to refute any of his/her sources!”
Comment by michael — July 7, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
You’re defending Big Oil, michael. If you want to know the source of my post, look it up. You might want to do some more research on James M. Taylor while your at it.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:20 pm“The Supreme Court declared him president
Comment by Probus — July 7, 2007″
Wrong! The Supreme Court doesn’t have the power to declare anyone President! Get your facts straight?
July 7th, 2007 at 6:20 pmOh, crap. I accidentally clicked on michaelgeist’s link. Now I have to wash my computer with an antibacterial agent.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:33 pmI like this one Michael:
That is the single most important point that Michael doesn’t seem to grasp. Once you’ve been caught plagarizing, especially if it is public and you then refuse to recant or otherwise amend your mistake, going so far as to say citing your sources doesn’t matter for you, in this instance, everything else you write or have previously written becomes suspect. by Moderation
don’t you?
Comment by willyloman — July 7, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
I think I’m on his ignore list…
Comment by Moderation — July 7, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
See? I told you so. He’s answered you multiple times, among others. But he only attempts to answer those questions for which he has a pre-approved talking point or counterpoint, or can toss a specific kind of ad hominem or straw man at to see if that crap sticks. He is quite obviously posting here with a specific list of organized talking points, and with a specific agenda of disinformation and distraction. There are no doubt files of propaganda he has on hand to cut and paste, and instructions on when to use each given talking point. He certainly does so more than many other trolls who post here. He is certainly more obvious about it.
He might even respond to this post, because of the above point (he is here with an agenda). Why, I might even be posting this to see if he actually has the guts to respond, or if he really is the paid pussy shill that he appears to be.
Damn, your bosses are getting totally ripped off if they are paying you ANY money at all, Michael, my lad. Is your ignore list pre-approved as well? Are you also told where to place your hands while you pee? Are you only allowed to touch authorized parts of your wee willy winky, Mikey? Do you need that kind of authority over you? Nay, methinks Mikey likes it!
If you were at all honest, I’d gladly have a conversation with you. But alas, you take the stance of intellectual dishonesty in your discourse. You take the stance of cerebral indolence. You, my dear, plagarizing bridge-dweller, have no leg to stand on.
You should just go away, for your own sake, troll. Oh, and tell your bosses you are a failure. I am sure they already know, but it will be healthy for your heart and mind if your lips would but speak the words.
July 7th, 2007 at 7:09 pmGore’s alleged hypocracy aside, his child’s indescressions aside, I am going to attend a Live Earth rally in about an hour and a half. Why? Because I believe we’re about to run our planet so far out of spec it turns around and runs us out of town. Unlike the neocons, I’m not going to simply turn my head and ignore the problem. Temperatures are up across the board. Weather is turning whacky. Colorado is suffering year after year of bruising droughts. And not even two weeks ago, we saw 100degF+ days here in Denver.
I don’t look at Gore’s energy bill to decide if I’m going to do my part to reduce CO2 emissions. I don’t need to know if his kid was driving and doing drugs. All I need to do is go out and spend a few dollars on CF bulbs. Tis it.
Trolls, spin it as you will, but that’s the bottom line. I just hope I don’t have to suffer your folly in 50 years.
July 7th, 2007 at 7:27 pmYou know moderation I won’t even waste my time cutting and pasting pieces from your post because you said nothing! I put you in the same class as willy and zooey. When you want to post something close to intelligent, then maybe I’ll play! In the mean time would you like to answer the question that wayne and zooey failed to?
July 7th, 2007 at 7:32 pmWoops, you said Willy, not Wayne. I’m not overly familiar with Willy, so I cannot comment on him, I am afraid.
July 7th, 2007 at 7:54 pmThere is no such thing as global warming any way……and what is this all these so called sing stars jump on another bandwagon for some stupid cause……how pathetic.
July 7th, 2007 at 8:10 pmHey… At least it’s a positive cause and it’s about conservation and awareness. But of course, you would prefer a concert that’s about killing and maiming people and then you go to church on Sunday.
Your ilk is strange. If it’s positive, it’s bad, but if it has to do with spilling blood and not preserving life except for that of the unborn whom will be born into this world that WE want to preserve for the future generations, that’s bad. You have some twisted logic, but okay. Good luck with that. 7/7/7
July 7th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI feel the positive waves man.
Where is litl’ AL Jr. with the stash man.
July 8th, 2007 at 12:19 amDoobies we need live doobies for LIVE Concert!
I believe we’re about to run our planet so far out of spec it turns around and runs us out of town.
I belive to man. What’s a spec??? Hey u racist?
July 8th, 2007 at 12:21 amI believe to man. What’s a spec??? Hey u racist?
July 8th, 2007 at 12:21 am#274
Don’t forget the Diebold fraud of 2004 in Ohio.
This President has stolen his office twice. Given, I should say. he can’t put together correctly structured sentance, mush less steal two elections.
Gore is doing some really good work. He deserves to run for President again.
Comment by willyloman
July 8th, 2007 at 12:23 am————————————————————
Brain dead hippie for sure.
Comment by Flaco — July 8, 2007 @ 12:23 am
Brain-dead troll for sure.
July 8th, 2007 at 3:28 amJust think of all the ENERGY SAVED world wide over the hours of the LIVE EARTH event by the people who were at the venues and not home watching TV, blogging, turning on lights, opening refrigerator doors, playing stereos, cooking, using microwaves, hair dryers, using water, or driving around burning gas.
I’m sure what WAS SAVED outweighs what was used.
July 8th, 2007 at 8:56 amGive me a break. GW existed long before we humans did. Scientists whose pockets are lined by the liberal agenda doesn’t have to prove that, it’s common knowledge. To spend energy to save energy is a complete joke, just like the “carbon credit” idea. Come on, already. There’s nothing worse than a liberal controlled government taking away our American liberties and forcing us to do what their agenda is.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:39 amWhat a waste of time.One of the worst rated programs of all time!!!!!
July 9th, 2007 at 5:05 pmThis event is raises much needed awareness and money and they have tried to cover their pollution as much as they can.
July 11th, 2007 at 1:05 pmIt’s far more than most ever do…it’s a good thing and well done to them all…and everyone not complaining!