Comments on: ‘I tried to avoid this war.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:45:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: MAGGIE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3937551 MAGGIE Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:16:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3937551 Mr. Powell, I have just finished your autobiography. I believe you are a man of integrity. I believe your impartiality and clear-thinking helped the presidents you served under, both Democratic and Republican. It's a shame that members of a party want to tear you apart because you served Republican presidents. I personally want to thank you for the sacrifice you made to your country in the Vietnam War and later in office. I don't believe you lied and I don't believe you dishonored the African-American race. You have always upheld fairness and equality. I wish all Americans no matter what their skin color or party happens to be, could read your book with an unbiased mind. Mr. Powell, I have just finished your autobiography. I believe you are a man of integrity. I believe your impartiality and clear-thinking helped the presidents you served under, both Democratic and Republican. It’s a shame that members of a party want to tear you apart because you served Republican presidents. I personally want to thank you for the sacrifice you made to your country in the Vietnam War and later in office. I don’t believe you lied and I don’t believe you dishonored the African-American race. You have always upheld fairness and equality. I wish all Americans no matter what their skin color or party happens to be, could read your book with an unbiased mind.

]]> By: Barry in MIA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3921044 Barry in MIA Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:33:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3921044 He kept quiet, and in return his unqualified son got the cushy job at the FCC, fighting Janet Jackson's nipple. Obviously, that was more important to Powell than the lives of US servicemembers. He kept quiet, and in return his unqualified son got the cushy job at the FCC, fighting Janet Jackson’s nipple. Obviously, that was more important to Powell than the lives of US servicemembers.

]]> By: JSG http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3920969 JSG Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:15:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3920969 It's always been amusing to me how Colon Powell went from being universally admired pre-2000, to having a disctintly underwhelming aura after jumping on the Loyal Bushie bandwagon. It's a good thing Colon never became a Democrat. We don't need weak-willed chumps like him in our party. It’s always been amusing to me how Colon Powell went from being universally admired pre-2000, to having a disctintly underwhelming aura after jumping on the Loyal Bushie bandwagon.

It’s a good thing Colon never became a Democrat. We don’t need weak-willed chumps like him in our party.

]]> By: NewCebturyProf http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3920830 NewCebturyProf Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:35:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3920830 Hey guys & gals. Do a little thought experiment, keeping in mind the capitalist society we live in. Put yourself in the shoes of this so-called man of integrity and enabler of the worst foreign policy disaster of this country. I suspect your thinking would be as follows: "I used to be a SOS, before that a C-JCS, in short a person held in high esteem. My financial security is guaranteed as long as I dont make waves and keep the corporate big shots happy. Plus I have made the bed soft and comfortable for my son by getting him this fabulous job in regulating the communications industry. Surely, he is assured of big bucks later, again as long as he keeps the corporate big shots happy. I know he's not dumb enough to blow that. "Back to Iraq, the debate over WMD and what I should do now. Heck, I'm not going to rock the boat now. I'm able to draw huge high speaking fees at any conservative function I speak to. "Public intellectuals" they call themselves, hmmm, not too many of the public can come to Aspen can they? Anyway, I do need though to address some of the questions raised by the left. Let me see if I can finesse that, plus Mr.28% can hardly raise a stink about what my relatively mild criticisms now can he. After all, he's hearing a lot worse from his sycophantic crew in the Repub party. This way, I can maintain later that I answered to my conscience. But I still will have nothing that will be put to risk. Heck, I may even be able to raise my speaking fees and get some more corporate directorships. My comfortable lifestyle is in no way threatened" Cynical you say. Heck this is America, at least as the world sees it. Hey guys & gals. Do a little thought experiment, keeping in mind the capitalist society we live in. Put yourself in the shoes of this so-called man of integrity and enabler of the worst foreign policy disaster of this country. I suspect your thinking would be as follows:
“I used to be a SOS, before that a C-JCS, in short a person held in high esteem. My financial security is guaranteed as long as I dont make waves and keep the corporate big shots happy. Plus I have made the bed soft and comfortable for my son by getting him this fabulous job in regulating the communications industry. Surely, he is assured of big bucks later, again as long as he keeps the corporate big shots happy. I know he’s not dumb enough to blow that.
“Back to Iraq, the debate over WMD and what I should do now. Heck, I’m not going to rock the boat now. I’m able to draw huge high speaking fees at any conservative function I speak to. “Public intellectuals” they call themselves, hmmm, not too many of the public can come to Aspen can they? Anyway, I do need though to address some of the questions raised by the left. Let me see if I can finesse that, plus Mr.28% can hardly raise a stink about what my relatively mild criticisms now can he. After all, he’s hearing a lot worse from his sycophantic crew in the Repub party. This way, I can maintain later that I answered to my conscience. But I still will have nothing that will be put to risk. Heck, I may even be able to raise my speaking fees and get some more corporate directorships. My comfortable lifestyle is in no way threatened”
Cynical you say. Heck this is America, at least as the world sees it.

]]> By: Jack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3920418 Jack Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:34:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3920418 Kucinich appears to be the only Congressman to earn his salary. Impeach Now. Kucinich appears to be the only Congressman to earn his salary. Impeach Now.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3920021 Mr. President Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:33:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3920021 IMPEACH NOW IMPEACH NOW IMPEACH NOW IMPEACH NOW!! Comment by veritas — July 8, 2007 @ 9:46 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <b> Indeed. Impeach Sen. Leahy and Rep. Conyers</b> IMPEACH NOW

IMPEACH NOW

IMPEACH NOW

IMPEACH NOW!!

Comment by veritas — July 8, 2007 @ 9:46 am

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Indeed. Impeach Sen. Leahy and Rep. Conyers

]]> By: Sly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919931 Sly Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:06:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919931 In a totally different world depicted in Paul Schrader's film Blue Collar one character played by Yaphet Kotto is murdered on the job for his complaints against the working conditions at an auto plant and the corruption of the union,Harvey Keitel is left in the same wage trap, while Richard Pryor hooks up with the union. Mr. Powell and many others did the same as Richard 's character,willingly blinding themselves to the political puffery,cynicism,and ideological stupidity that marks this outfit in order to get a gate code to the exclusive suburb on the mesa that is the current administration. Every once he remembers his origins his pride( the statue of a black cavalryman at Fort Riley,Kansas,seemingly putting a party hack in her place during a televised interview) but then he places his snout in the trough son is rewarded with the FCC which he promptly says monopolies should own,he rolls over for The Speech. He is an Eisenhower era Negro Republican, not to aggressive, appreciative and complacent. He had his chance to constantly bring Facts all during the run up to war not just a 2.5 hour one to five you know Cheney was in the room to make sure Jr.s eyes didn't waver. Sad but hey Condi ain't no problem. In a totally different world depicted in Paul Schrader’s film Blue Collar one character played by Yaphet Kotto is murdered on the job for his complaints against the working conditions at an auto plant and the corruption of the union,Harvey Keitel is left in the same wage trap, while Richard Pryor hooks up with the union. Mr. Powell and many others did the same as Richard ’s character,willingly blinding themselves to the political puffery,cynicism,and ideological stupidity that marks this outfit in order to get a gate code to the exclusive suburb on the mesa that is the current administration. Every once he remembers his origins his pride( the statue of a black cavalryman at Fort Riley,Kansas,seemingly putting a party hack in her place during a televised interview) but then he places his snout in the trough son is rewarded with the FCC which he promptly says monopolies should own,he rolls over for The Speech. He is an Eisenhower era Negro Republican, not to aggressive, appreciative and complacent. He had his chance to constantly bring Facts all during the run up to war not just a 2.5 hour one to five you know Cheney was in the room to make sure Jr.s eyes didn’t waver. Sad but hey Condi ain’t no problem.

]]> By: Jim http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919875 Jim Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:55:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919875 #100: <em>With all the different stories Colin’s been spinning, he’s got about as much credibility as Broadway Joe Wilson.</em> I'd trust Wilson long before I'd trust Powell. One crucial difference between these two men: Wilson not only knew the truth about the Bush administration's lies, but he tried to do something about it. That, to me, is admirable. For his trouble, his wife had her career destroyed by White House Republicans, and Wilson has received years of hateful taunts from idiots like you. #100: With all the different stories Colin’s been spinning, he’s got about as much credibility as Broadway Joe Wilson.

I’d trust Wilson long before I’d trust Powell.

One crucial difference between these two men: Wilson not only knew the truth about the Bush administration’s lies, but he tried to do something about it. That, to me, is admirable. For his trouble, his wife had her career destroyed by White House Republicans, and Wilson has received years of hateful taunts from idiots like you.

]]> By: kevon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919854 kevon Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:11:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919854 You have too give it too bush, he totaly destroyed 2 militarymen highly regarded by the american people, john mcCain and collin powell, not bad for a dumb smuck. You have too give it too bush, he totaly destroyed 2 militarymen highly regarded by the american people, john mcCain and collin powell, not bad for a dumb smuck.

]]> By: J2 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919821 J2 Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:53:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919821 I've been checking memeorandum and other blog:news clustering sites. Why is this not mainstream news? Seriously ... I mean, is the Aspen Conference bound by a traditional 'what is said here stays here' rule? I’ve been checking memeorandum and other blog:news clustering sites. Why is this not mainstream news?

Seriously … I mean, is the Aspen Conference bound by a traditional ‘what is said here stays here’ rule?

]]> By: Anonymous American http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919774 Anonymous American Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:10:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919774 You might be interested in this if you're pissed off at Colin Powell: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0b9OHCLzDRA You might be interested in this if you’re pissed off at Colin Powell:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0b9OHCLzDRA

]]> By: timeisart http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919750 timeisart Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:56:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919750 Powell missed his best chance of being remembered as a man of integrity and principle. Now, he's just a snot-nosed whining little soldier boy. Powell missed his best chance of being remembered as a man of integrity and principle. Now, he’s just a snot-nosed whining little soldier boy.

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919431 Probus Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:32:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919431 Colin Powell should have spoken up before. His words before the UN will always haunt him. Other members of this administration must also come clean. Congress must continue its investigations into the run up to this war and how Plamegate is closely connected to it. The decision to go to war was made even before the intelligence was presented to Bush. The intelligence was cherry picked to make the case for war. The intelligence was made to fit around this faulty policy. Previous administrations (Clinton) have always had their policies fit around the intelligence. The intelligence was not bad, as the president claims. Bush manipulated the intelligence because he wanted to go to war with Iraq at any cost. He did at the cost of our troops. Under Bush's leadership we have lost this civil war. This civil war is between the Shiias and the Sunnis and our troops are caught in the middle of it. Iraq has nothing to do with al Qaeda or 9-11. Colin Powell should have spoken up before. His words before the UN will always haunt him. Other members of this administration must also come clean. Congress must continue its investigations into the run up to this war and how Plamegate is closely connected to it. The decision to go to war was made even before the intelligence was presented to Bush. The intelligence was cherry picked to make the case for war. The intelligence was made to fit around this faulty policy.

Previous administrations (Clinton) have always had their policies fit around the intelligence. The intelligence was not bad, as the president claims. Bush manipulated the intelligence because he wanted to go to war with Iraq at any cost. He did at the cost of our troops. Under Bush’s leadership we have lost this civil war. This civil war is between the Shiias and the Sunnis and our troops are caught in the middle of it. Iraq has nothing to do with al Qaeda or 9-11.

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919410 dixie blood Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:21:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919410 <em>so many former hawks have come out saying they were against the war all along, it’s a wonder how it happened in the first place…. Comment by r€nato — July 8, 2007 @ 5:13 pm</em> Just like Viet-phucking-Nam!! Everyone of them are a$$holes!! so many former hawks have come out saying they were against the war all along, it’s a wonder how it happened in the first place….

Comment by r€nato — July 8, 2007 @ 5:13 pm

Just like Viet-phucking-Nam!!

Everyone of them are a$$holes!!

]]> By: katie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919403 katie Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:20:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919403 <em>"ok. you got me. Feingold/ Kucinich ‘08!"</em> Now you're talking. But even better Gore/Kucinich '08. That would be a dynamite team! “ok. you got me.

Feingold/ Kucinich ‘08!”

Now you’re talking. But even better Gore/Kucinich ‘08. That would be a dynamite team!

]]> By: r€nato http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919392 r€nato Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:13:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919392 so many former hawks have come out saying they were against the war all along, it's a wonder how it happened in the first place.... so many former hawks have come out saying they were against the war all along, it’s a wonder how it happened in the first place….

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919391 Marie Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:10:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919391 And when did he have this futile heart to heart with Bush? Was it before or after he presented 90 minutes of lies and fabrications to the UN and the world? What's the point of lamely saying now that you tried to stop him? Self serving maybe, but it doesn't absolve you. You should have told him then - this plan is no plan, this is a war based on speculation and assumption and if you go ahead with this I will resign. I will tell the country and the congress what I have told you, and they will have the facts. And when did he have this futile heart to heart with Bush? Was it before or after he presented 90 minutes of lies and fabrications to the UN and the world? What’s the point of lamely saying now that you tried to stop him? Self serving maybe, but it doesn’t absolve you. You should have told him then – this plan is no plan, this is a war based on speculation and assumption and if you go ahead with this I will resign. I will tell the country and the congress what I have told you, and they will have the facts.

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919378 dixie blood Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:03:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919378 Colin Powerll--you disgust me!!! PUKE...uhhggg..PUKE...hgghh..PUKE!!! Colin Powerll–you disgust me!!! PUKE…uhhggg..PUKE…hgghh..PUKE!!!

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919377 dixie blood Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:01:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919377 Colin had the most to lose in this administration and he lost it all!!! Loser!!! Colin had the most to lose in this administration and he lost it all!!!

Loser!!!

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/comment-page-3/#comment-3919374 dixie blood Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:00:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/i-tried-to-avoid-this-war/#comment-3919374 <b>Colin, Do you think you deserve a ph*cking cookie for your weak-a$$ so-called resistance to this moron presiDunce? Give me a complete ph*cking break moron!! Did you resign? NO!! Did you speak out in public? NO!! Did you continue to resist beyond your "2.5 hours?" NO!! Did you redouble your efforts to resist this illegal and sloppy war? NO!! Did you speak out about the costof this war? NO!! Did you stand up for the Generals that were speaking truth to power? NO!! Did you stand up to the VP's office and their complete munipulation of the intelligence/facts on the ground? NO!! Did you look into the true intelligence available outside of the VP's corrupt office? NO!! Did you ever question any of the stupidity and/or corruptness you found yourself surrounded by? NO!! What did you do just yesterday to end this corrupt adminstration? NOTHING!!!!</b> Colin,

Do you think you deserve a ph*cking cookie for your weak-a$$ so-called resistance to this moron presiDunce? Give me a complete ph*cking break moron!!

Did you resign? NO!!

Did you speak out in public? NO!!

Did you continue to resist beyond your “2.5 hours?” NO!!

Did you redouble your efforts to resist this illegal and sloppy war? NO!!

Did you speak out about the costof this war? NO!!

Did you stand up for the Generals that were speaking truth to power? NO!!

Did you stand up to the VP’s office and their complete munipulation of the intelligence/facts on the ground? NO!!

Did you look into the true intelligence available outside of the VP’s corrupt office? NO!!

Did you ever question any of the stupidity and/or corruptness you found yourself surrounded by? NO!!

What did you do just yesterday to end this corrupt adminstration?

NOTHING!!!!

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