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		<title>By: JIMMY</title>
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		<dc:creator>JIMMY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Senator Specter, Schumer &amp;  Leahy

	I would like to give you my idea of an answer to a question Senator Spector asked.  Why was the investigation continued after Armitage was identified as the first leaker or the first leaker to Novak?

Mr. Fitzgerald was charged with investigating  possible violations of two national security laws. The first was The Intelligence Identity Protection Act. That makes it a crime to make a covert officerâ€™s name and operative status  know to non-authorized persons.  This law was passed after a covert operative, Mr. Welch was murdered in Athens  in 1975 a couple of days after names was made public in a newspaper column by Jack Anderson.    In addition  some of the people Agent Welch  was seen with in the area where he was working were killed or went missing and other sources were lost for important national security information.  In addition in 1985 the incident was repeated when agent Buckley and some of his associates were killed after their status was revield in Beruit. 
The second national security law involved in the Fitzgerald investigation dealt with leaking classified  information to non authorized persons. 

Three specific jobs were given to Mr. Fitzgerald in his commission as Special Council.  Task two depended on task one and task three was independent of task one and two.

The first task was to find all who were involved in making Ms. Plameâ€™s name and covert operative assignment known to unauthorized persons. This required the investigation of all potential leakers to find who may have violated the law by leaking, not just the first leaker or the person or persons who leaked to Mr. Novak. There  were at least two who leaked to Mr. Novak, Mr. Libby and Mr. Rove   Mr. Rove testified under oath to the fact he also outed Ms. Plameâ€™s name and CIA status to Mr. Novak in verification of  Mr. Armitageâ€™s leak to Mr. Novak.  Note the leak did not have to be published to violate the law.  Weather it was  published or not the leaker may have broken the law by leaking the classified information to unauthorized persons. In addition Mr. Novak sent  a copy of this article to Mr. Rove a couple of days before it was printed in the various papers that carried Mr. Novakâ€™s column.  Mr. Rove did not object to Mr. Novakâ€™s article. 

Mr. Fitzgerald found several leakers.  The White House press secretary, Ari Flisher  who leaked to Mr. Cooper at Time Magazine after Mr. Libby leaked to Mr. Flisher.  Mr. Libby  also leaked the  identity to Mr. Cooper  and Ms. Miller at the New York Times newspaper on three occasions, weeks before Mr. Armitage leaked to Mr. Novak.  Mr. Rove also testified he leaked to Mr. Cooper of Time Magazine and to  Mr. Novak  who called Mr. Rove to verify Mr. Armitageâ€™s leak to Mr. Novak.

Mr. Fitzgerald met this assignment well according to both Attorney  General Gonzales and President Bush who both evaluated his efforts as excellent on television and commented that they thought he was an excellent  prosecutor.

 The second task, assigned to Mr. Fitzgerald  was to prosecute those who enough evidence was available against to sustain a just prosecution.  Mr. Fitzgerald did not find enough evidence to support a case against the leakers. He said that whiteness and suspect lying kept  him from  getting  the necessary indirect or  circumstantial evidence to show the intent  required to sustain a successful prosecution of the law. But he kept trying to get such evidence till he was sure he could not get the truthfull cooperation he needed.
Mr. Fitzgerald did the correct thing.  He did not make a false, illegal prosecution like one prosecutor, in North Carolina, has done on the state level recently for political purposes. 

Mr. Fitzgeraldâ€™s third task required  by his commission was to investigate and prosecute all those who interfered in the investigation by perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigative officers.  This was regardless of whether enough evidence was available to bring leak prosecutions. This  was made explicit in writing because it was believed that Mr. Fitzgerald would probably be questioning high government officials and people of some political influence.  This was published on the Internet to remind all that the rule of law and the ideas of justice requires that all people be treated equally by the laws, the courts and the Justice Department no matter  what their official status or political influence might be. 


Mr. Fitzgerald accomplished this and was specifically  congratulated in writing for performing this task in the Libby sentence commutation  by President Bush.  By the way both attorney General Gonzales or President Bush could have and still can remove Mr. Fitzgerald from his commission at any time with out cause.  He serves at their pleasure as Special Counsel and as a political apointed employee of the Justice Departmen, being the United States Attorney for the first district of Illinois.  He never was a special Prosecutor or an Independent Prosecutor.  

All the best, God bless you and the United 
States of America and everyone everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Senator Specter, Schumer &amp;  Leahy</p>
<p>	I would like to give you my idea of an answer to a question Senator Spector asked.  Why was the investigation continued after Armitage was identified as the first leaker or the first leaker to Novak?</p>
<p>Mr. Fitzgerald was charged with investigating  possible violations of two national security laws. The first was The Intelligence Identity Protection Act. That makes it a crime to make a covert officerâ€™s name and operative status  know to non-authorized persons.  This law was passed after a covert operative, Mr. Welch was murdered in Athens  in 1975 a couple of days after names was made public in a newspaper column by Jack Anderson.    In addition  some of the people Agent Welch  was seen with in the area where he was working were killed or went missing and other sources were lost for important national security information.  In addition in 1985 the incident was repeated when agent Buckley and some of his associates were killed after their status was revield in Beruit.<br />
The second national security law involved in the Fitzgerald investigation dealt with leaking classified  information to non authorized persons. </p>
<p>Three specific jobs were given to Mr. Fitzgerald in his commission as Special Council.  Task two depended on task one and task three was independent of task one and two.</p>
<p>The first task was to find all who were involved in making Ms. Plameâ€™s name and covert operative assignment known to unauthorized persons. This required the investigation of all potential leakers to find who may have violated the law by leaking, not just the first leaker or the person or persons who leaked to Mr. Novak. There  were at least two who leaked to Mr. Novak, Mr. Libby and Mr. Rove   Mr. Rove testified under oath to the fact he also outed Ms. Plameâ€™s name and CIA status to Mr. Novak in verification of  Mr. Armitageâ€™s leak to Mr. Novak.  Note the leak did not have to be published to violate the law.  Weather it was  published or not the leaker may have broken the law by leaking the classified information to unauthorized persons. In addition Mr. Novak sent  a copy of this article to Mr. Rove a couple of days before it was printed in the various papers that carried Mr. Novakâ€™s column.  Mr. Rove did not object to Mr. Novakâ€™s article. </p>
<p>Mr. Fitzgerald found several leakers.  The White House press secretary, Ari Flisher  who leaked to Mr. Cooper at Time Magazine after Mr. Libby leaked to Mr. Flisher.  Mr. Libby  also leaked the  identity to Mr. Cooper  and Ms. Miller at the New York Times newspaper on three occasions, weeks before Mr. Armitage leaked to Mr. Novak.  Mr. Rove also testified he leaked to Mr. Cooper of Time Magazine and to  Mr. Novak  who called Mr. Rove to verify Mr. Armitageâ€™s leak to Mr. Novak.</p>
<p>Mr. Fitzgerald met this assignment well according to both Attorney  General Gonzales and President Bush who both evaluated his efforts as excellent on television and commented that they thought he was an excellent  prosecutor.</p>
<p> The second task, assigned to Mr. Fitzgerald  was to prosecute those who enough evidence was available against to sustain a just prosecution.  Mr. Fitzgerald did not find enough evidence to support a case against the leakers. He said that whiteness and suspect lying kept  him from  getting  the necessary indirect or  circumstantial evidence to show the intent  required to sustain a successful prosecution of the law. But he kept trying to get such evidence till he was sure he could not get the truthfull cooperation he needed.<br />
Mr. Fitzgerald did the correct thing.  He did not make a false, illegal prosecution like one prosecutor, in North Carolina, has done on the state level recently for political purposes. </p>
<p>Mr. Fitzgeraldâ€™s third task required  by his commission was to investigate and prosecute all those who interfered in the investigation by perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigative officers.  This was regardless of whether enough evidence was available to bring leak prosecutions. This  was made explicit in writing because it was believed that Mr. Fitzgerald would probably be questioning high government officials and people of some political influence.  This was published on the Internet to remind all that the rule of law and the ideas of justice requires that all people be treated equally by the laws, the courts and the Justice Department no matter  what their official status or political influence might be. </p>
<p>Mr. Fitzgerald accomplished this and was specifically  congratulated in writing for performing this task in the Libby sentence commutation  by President Bush.  By the way both attorney General Gonzales or President Bush could have and still can remove Mr. Fitzgerald from his commission at any time with out cause.  He serves at their pleasure as Special Counsel and as a political apointed employee of the Justice Departmen, being the United States Attorney for the first district of Illinois.  He never was a special Prosecutor or an Independent Prosecutor.  </p>
<p>All the best, God bless you and the United<br />
States of America and everyone everywhere.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3928979', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: FDR</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why ? Because  Patrick Fitzgerald was appointed by Bill Clinton and this was nothing more than a Witch hunt , and it looks like Mr.  Fitzgerald is going to get a well deserved Spanking :  )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why ? Because  Patrick Fitzgerald was appointed by Bill Clinton and this was nothing more than a Witch hunt , and it looks like Mr.  Fitzgerald is going to get a well deserved Spanking :  )<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3922555', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#177

Comment by Lora â€” July 9, 2007 @ 12:20 am

&quot;Do you mean to tell us that you protested the Starr investigation or Dan Burtonâ€™s several go-nowhere investigations of Clinton...&quot;

When I found about them?....absolutely!  Burton wasting tax payers money was just as ridiculous as Fitzgerald&#039;s.

&quot;If not, then STFU, boy; your party no longer controls Congress.&quot;

Oh, the little girl&#039;s got herself a potty mouth!  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#177</p>
<p>Comment by Lora â€” July 9, 2007 @ 12:20 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you mean to tell us that you protested the Starr investigation or Dan Burtonâ€™s several go-nowhere investigations of Clinton&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>When I found about them?&#8230;.absolutely!  Burton wasting tax payers money was just as ridiculous as Fitzgerald&#8217;s.</p>
<p>&#8220;If not, then STFU, boy; your party no longer controls Congress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, the little girl&#8217;s got herself a potty mouth!  LOL!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3922492', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/08/leahy-fitz/comment-page-6/#comment-3921832</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What most people fail to realize is Fitzgerald KNOWS it was Armitage that outed Plame.

What MUST be determined to prosecute him (and most likely others) isâ€¦.did he do it intentionally and who gave him the information?

These questions are the very reason Libby was charged with Perjury and Obstruction. The Grand Jury found Libby was not forthright in his testimony about Who, What and When.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;

It was actually SEVEN little traitors who exposed a COVERT agent fronting a company specializing in WMD with Iran and Iraq.

Libby, Rove and Armitage were among them, and this all came out in the Libby TRIAL.  Dick Cheney authorized it.

That&#039;s why Fitz said there is still a &quot;cloud over the VP and his office&quot;. Because the leak was done at the REQUEST of Dick Cheney.

And Libby OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE by shielding Cheney.

And TRAITOR Bush.  Libby was also Assistant to the PRESIDENT.

For &quot;national security&quot;.

How very sad.

How very TREASONOUS...&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What most people fail to realize is Fitzgerald KNOWS it was Armitage that outed Plame.</p>
<p>What MUST be determined to prosecute him (and most likely others) isâ€¦.did he do it intentionally and who gave him the information?</p>
<p>These questions are the very reason Libby was charged with Perjury and Obstruction. The Grand Jury found Libby was not forthright in his testimony about Who, What and When.</em><br />
<strong></p>
<p>It was actually SEVEN little traitors who exposed a COVERT agent fronting a company specializing in WMD with Iran and Iraq.</p>
<p>Libby, Rove and Armitage were among them, and this all came out in the Libby TRIAL.  Dick Cheney authorized it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Fitz said there is still a &#8220;cloud over the VP and his office&#8221;. Because the leak was done at the REQUEST of Dick Cheney.</p>
<p>And Libby OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE by shielding Cheney.</p>
<p>And TRAITOR Bush.  Libby was also Assistant to the PRESIDENT.</p>
<p>For &#8220;national security&#8221;.</p>
<p>How very sad.</p>
<p>How very TREASONOUS&#8230;</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3921832', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;As I have already said, this is a show trail. Leahy knows that nothing will come from this, he is in it to further is own political agenda and to smear his enemies (e.g. Cheney).&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;strong&gt;No, actually it is about bringing the execTHUG branch to ACCOUNTABILITY...

Something sorely missing from the previous RUBBER-STAMP Rapeublic Congress.

Time for the TRUTH about how Cheney and the ENTIRE Bush family are COXUCKER punk TRAITORS to the USA...


God Bless America, the Democratic Party, SUBPOENAS and the WORLD!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>As I have already said, this is a show trail. Leahy knows that nothing will come from this, he is in it to further is own political agenda and to smear his enemies (e.g. Cheney).</em></p>
<p><strong>No, actually it is about bringing the execTHUG branch to ACCOUNTABILITY&#8230;</p>
<p>Something sorely missing from the previous RUBBER-STAMP Rapeublic Congress.</p>
<p>Time for the TRUTH about how Cheney and the ENTIRE Bush family are COXUCKER punk TRAITORS to the USA&#8230;</p>
<p>God Bless America, the Democratic Party, SUBPOENAS and the WORLD!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3921817', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: makesenseofit</title>
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		<dc:creator>makesenseofit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I am not so sure where Arlen stands on the issue 
of having a continuum of the investigation of the outing of Valeri Plame. He sounds a little shakey to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I am not so sure where Arlen stands on the issue<br />
of having a continuum of the investigation of the outing of Valeri Plame. He sounds a little shakey to me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3921392', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pat anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most people fail to realize is Fitzgerald KNOWS it was Armitage that outed Plame. 

What MUST be determined to prosecute him (and most likely others)  is....did he do it intentionally and who gave him the information? 

These questions are the very reason Libby was charged with Perjury and Obstruction.  The Grand Jury found Libby  was not forthright in his testimony about Who, What and When.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most people fail to realize is Fitzgerald KNOWS it was Armitage that outed Plame. </p>
<p>What MUST be determined to prosecute him (and most likely others)  is&#8230;.did he do it intentionally and who gave him the information? </p>
<p>These questions are the very reason Libby was charged with Perjury and Obstruction.  The Grand Jury found Libby  was not forthright in his testimony about Who, What and When.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3921194', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Dick Cheney has pictures of Arlen Specter doing it with pigs.  He will go along with anything Dick ultimately tells him to do.  As for me, I&#039;d rather trust the slightly less slimy Phil Specter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Dick Cheney has pictures of Arlen Specter doing it with pigs.  He will go along with anything Dick ultimately tells him to do.  As for me, I&#8217;d rather trust the slightly less slimy Phil Specter.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3921167', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Troll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats &quot;witch&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats &#8220;witch&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920767', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Troll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arous
Thanks for the link. From www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/

&quot;Fitzgerald concluded he could not charge Libby for violating a 1982 law banning the outing of a covert CIA agent; apparently he lacked proof Libby was aware of her covert status when he talked about her three times with New York Times reporter Judith Miller.&quot;

Could those on the wich hunt here consider that this was maybe just a boneheaded slip of the tongue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arous<br />
Thanks for the link. From <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Fitzgerald concluded he could not charge Libby for violating a 1982 law banning the outing of a covert CIA agent; apparently he lacked proof Libby was aware of her covert status when he talked about her three times with New York Times reporter Judith Miller.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could those on the wich hunt here consider that this was maybe just a boneheaded slip of the tongue?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920765', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brain From Planet Arous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain From Planet Arous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The â€œtalking pointsâ€ are moot.

Comment by willyloman â€” July 9, 2007 @ 9:26 am

Loman,
Could you please cite some source for these?

Comment by Troll â€” July 9, 2007 @ 10:25 am&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/03/16/cia-director-hayden-valerie-plame-was-covert-agent/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/03/16/cia-director-hayden-valerie-plame-was-covert-agent/


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The â€œtalking pointsâ€ are moot.</p>
<p>Comment by willyloman â€” July 9, 2007 @ 9:26 am</p>
<p>Loman,<br />
Could you please cite some source for these?</p>
<p>Comment by Troll â€” July 9, 2007 @ 10:25 am</em></p>
<p><a href="http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/03/16/cia-director-hayden-valerie-plame-was-covert-agent/" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
<p>news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/03/16/cia-director-hayden-valerie-plame-was-covert-agent/</p>
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		<title>By: Troll</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The â€œtalking pointsâ€ are moot.

Comment by willyloman â€” July 9, 2007 @ 9:26 am


Loman,
Could you please cite some source for these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The â€œtalking pointsâ€ are moot.</p>
<p>Comment by willyloman â€” July 9, 2007 @ 9:26 am</p>
<p>Loman,<br />
Could you please cite some source for these?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920204', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Georgette Orwell</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can Mr. Fitzgerald contiribute? He may discuss everything that the president and vice president told him, but does any one of us think that there was any truth entailed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can Mr. Fitzgerald contiribute? He may discuss everything that the president and vice president told him, but does any one of us think that there was any truth entailed?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920122', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funky p</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The â€œtalking pointsâ€ are moot.
Comment by willyloman

That&#039;s why I do not get the lack of indictments.
We know she was covert, we know outing a covert agent is illegal, we know who leaked the information, and who published the information.
So, why no indictments? It cannot be just because Libby concealed evidence. We have seen the evidence. Armitage, Libby, Rove, Cheney, Novak, Cooper, Miller all had classified information. Bush authorized Cheney to un-classify enough to out Plame. So why no indictments. Miller even spent time in jail for protecting her leaker (Libby). 
Where is Justice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The â€œtalking pointsâ€ are moot.<br />
Comment by willyloman</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I do not get the lack of indictments.<br />
We know she was covert, we know outing a covert agent is illegal, we know who leaked the information, and who published the information.<br />
So, why no indictments? It cannot be just because Libby concealed evidence. We have seen the evidence. Armitage, Libby, Rove, Cheney, Novak, Cooper, Miller all had classified information. Bush authorized Cheney to un-classify enough to out Plame. So why no indictments. Miller even spent time in jail for protecting her leaker (Libby).<br />
Where is Justice?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920102', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marylaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a criminal investigation of a possible conspiracy begins, the authorities do not stop the investigation when one of the conspirators confesses.  They continue their investigation in order to determine all which of the suspects is involved.  They will prosecute all of the members of the conspiracy, not just the first to confess.

Alan Spector was a former prosecuting attorney; surely he would know this simple procedure.  Even if he was not a prosecuting attorney, he is an attorney.  He would have learn the law regarding conspiracies in law school.

Or maybe now the rules have changed and the authorities will no longer investigate after the first member of the conspiracy confesses.  They can save the taxpayers a lot of money under this new method of investigation.  Of course public safety will substantially decrease as the other members of the criminal conspiracy continue to commit crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a criminal investigation of a possible conspiracy begins, the authorities do not stop the investigation when one of the conspirators confesses.  They continue their investigation in order to determine all which of the suspects is involved.  They will prosecute all of the members of the conspiracy, not just the first to confess.</p>
<p>Alan Spector was a former prosecuting attorney; surely he would know this simple procedure.  Even if he was not a prosecuting attorney, he is an attorney.  He would have learn the law regarding conspiracies in law school.</p>
<p>Or maybe now the rules have changed and the authorities will no longer investigate after the first member of the conspiracy confesses.  They can save the taxpayers a lot of money under this new method of investigation.  Of course public safety will substantially decrease as the other members of the criminal conspiracy continue to commit crimes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920101', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The &quot;talking points&quot; are moot.

Clearly P. Fitzgerals doesn&#039;t have a partisan aganda, nor does the CIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CIA has stated for the record that her Undercover Status is undeniable. P. Fitzgerald has also stated that her status as a covert op for the CIA is clear. The &#8220;talking points&#8221; are moot.</p>
<p>Clearly P. Fitzgerals doesn&#8217;t have a partisan aganda, nor does the CIA.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920082', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And to all you fool trolls who use the â€œno underlying crimeâ€ talking point, 
Comment by katie&lt;/em&gt;

The &quot;underlying crime&quot; talking point is silly. No one was convicted of the &quot;underlying crime&quot; because Scooter committed purgery and obstruction of justice to thwart the investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And to all you fool trolls who use the â€œno underlying crimeâ€ talking point,<br />
Comment by katie</em></p>
<p>The &#8220;underlying crime&#8221; talking point is silly. No one was convicted of the &#8220;underlying crime&#8221; because Scooter committed purgery and obstruction of justice to thwart the investigation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920074', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funky p</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie, you are surely right.
And everyone complains about the fact that there is no underlying crime. I get that, because Fitzgerald has not indicted anyone for the outing of Plame. It should be obvious that Novak is a traitor, so why isn&#039;t he in jail? He&#039;s still writing columns!
So, is Fitzgerald just playing along without doing much of anything, or was Libby&#039;s cover up so good that no incriminating evidence could be found? I am troubled by the lack of indictments, and I want to know how Fitz explains this inconsistency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie, you are surely right.<br />
And everyone complains about the fact that there is no underlying crime. I get that, because Fitzgerald has not indicted anyone for the outing of Plame. It should be obvious that Novak is a traitor, so why isn&#8217;t he in jail? He&#8217;s still writing columns!<br />
So, is Fitzgerald just playing along without doing much of anything, or was Libby&#8217;s cover up so good that no incriminating evidence could be found? I am troubled by the lack of indictments, and I want to know how Fitz explains this inconsistency.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920069', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; So why are you here, Mr Pee?

Comment by david&lt;/em&gt;

that would be like asking &quot;Fredo&quot; for a straight answer. &quot;Uh, Senator, I cn&#039;t recall if I remembered at that time, whether or not I did, in fact, have that conversation. And if I do recall, whether that conversation happened, who was there. I mean, I remember the conversation took place and who was there, but I cn&#039;t recall if I remember it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> So why are you here, Mr Pee?</p>
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<p>that would be like asking &#8220;Fredo&#8221; for a straight answer. &#8220;Uh, Senator, I cn&#8217;t recall if I remembered at that time, whether or not I did, in fact, have that conversation. And if I do recall, whether that conversation happened, who was there. I mean, I remember the conversation took place and who was there, but I cn&#8217;t recall if I remember it.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920068', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no reason why Fitzgerald can&#039;t tell all in his testimony.  He has already said that no one else will be prosecuted even though something like 5 people have said they leaked her name and Fitzgerald determined that she was a covert agent.  As far as I am concerned, Fitzgerald committed treason along with the rest.

And to all you fool trolls who use the &quot;no underlying crime&quot; talking point, please answer this question.  If Valerie Plame was not an under cover agent, why did she have a cover company, Brewster Jennings? 

The White House leakers not only leaked her name, they also leaked the name of her cover company, pretty much verifying that they knew she was under cover.  By leaking her cover company, Novak put a lot of CIA agents in harms way.  For all we know, some may have been killed or kidnapped.  But we are not allowed to know that because the CIA&#039;s investigation into the matter is &quot;classified&quot;, surprise...surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no reason why Fitzgerald can&#8217;t tell all in his testimony.  He has already said that no one else will be prosecuted even though something like 5 people have said they leaked her name and Fitzgerald determined that she was a covert agent.  As far as I am concerned, Fitzgerald committed treason along with the rest.</p>
<p>And to all you fool trolls who use the &#8220;no underlying crime&#8221; talking point, please answer this question.  If Valerie Plame was not an under cover agent, why did she have a cover company, Brewster Jennings? </p>
<p>The White House leakers not only leaked her name, they also leaked the name of her cover company, pretty much verifying that they knew she was under cover.  By leaking her cover company, Novak put a lot of CIA agents in harms way.  For all we know, some may have been killed or kidnapped.  But we are not allowed to know that because the CIA&#8217;s investigation into the matter is &#8220;classified&#8221;, surprise&#8230;surprise.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3920066', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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