Comments on: Escalation Architect Kagan: ‘Whatever You Can Say About The Current Strategy, It Has Not Failed’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:20:33 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Kim http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3944855 Kim Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:29:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3944855 Why get involved in Israel's fifty year long destabilisation of the countries around it? God help Iraq, that they have oil beneath their soil. The American wars would not be fought if it were not the case. Why get involved in Israel’s fifty year long destabilisation of the countries around it?

God help Iraq, that they have oil beneath their soil. The American wars would not be fought if it were not the case.

]]> By: professor joe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3924951 professor joe Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:47:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3924951 I do not normally get into this back and forth bantering about politics. But, a question was asked that I have not noticed an answer for. This is not from Wikipedia, it is from my research on Cheney. After Clinton defeated Bush in '92, Cheney and Rumsfeld had precious little to do. Between '92 and '95, when Cheney went to work with Halliburton to help them secure as many asbestos removal contracts as they could, they were the innovators of AEI. It is completely their brainchild and its purpose is to determine how America can use foreign policy to increase their collective might across the world. It is a think tank that has as a primary focus the optimum way to use the U.S. military offensively, in order to create as much wealth as possible. That's why we are in Iraq. It has been on the drawing board at the AEI since '92. Why do you think the $12 million were shipped shrink wrapped? It's about money. If it were really about terrorism, we would have went into Pakistan. Hussein had brokered a deal with Russia to help them extract and refine their massive oil reserves in exchange for the two of them working as partners. We were trying to do the same thing and the mustache beat us to draw. There were too many players in the American deal and with Iraq, they only had to deal with Hussein and Aziz. And, frankly, I don't care how chummy Bush and Putin appear in public, Russia does not trust us, and with good reason. Once again, it was about the bear and eagle. It always will be until China calls in the money that we owe them on the national debt. they have over 200 million INFANTRY soldiers alone in their military. We can't even handle Ali Babba and the Forty-Thousand Thieves. I do not normally get into this back and forth bantering about politics. But, a question was asked that I have not noticed an answer for. This is not from Wikipedia, it is from my research on Cheney. After Clinton defeated Bush in ‘92, Cheney and Rumsfeld had precious little to do. Between ‘92 and ‘95, when Cheney went to work with Halliburton to help them secure as many asbestos removal contracts as they could, they were the innovators of AEI. It is completely their brainchild and its purpose is to determine how America can use foreign policy to increase their collective might across the world. It is a think tank that has as a primary focus the optimum way to use the U.S. military offensively, in order to create as much wealth as possible. That’s why we are in Iraq. It has been on the drawing board at the AEI since ‘92. Why do you think the $12 million were shipped shrink wrapped? It’s about money. If it were really about terrorism, we would have went into Pakistan. Hussein had brokered a deal with Russia to help them extract and refine their massive oil reserves in exchange for the two of them working as partners. We were trying to do the same thing and the mustache beat us to draw. There were too many players in the American deal and with Iraq, they only had to deal with Hussein and Aziz. And, frankly, I don’t care how chummy Bush and Putin appear in public, Russia does not trust us, and with good reason. Once again, it was about the bear and eagle. It always will be until China calls in the money that we owe them on the national debt. they have over 200 million INFANTRY soldiers alone in their military. We can’t even handle Ali Babba and the Forty-Thousand Thieves.

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3924486 Karim Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:59:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3924486 Kagan is full of crap. When will he get it through his sick little head? Kagan is full of crap. When will he get it through his sick little head?

]]> By: Peter Principle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3923393 Peter Principle Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:18:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3923393 Well, speaking as an anti-war radical and invenerate necon hater, all I can say after watching that video clip of Kagan in action is that I want to see that fat, clueless gasbag on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News every hour of every day. He's a better advertisement for the stupidity and immorality of this war than anything Michael Moore or MoveOn could ever dream up. Well, speaking as an anti-war radical and invenerate necon hater, all I can say after watching that video clip of Kagan in action is that I want to see that fat, clueless gasbag on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News every hour of every day. He’s a better advertisement for the stupidity and immorality of this war than anything Michael Moore or MoveOn could ever dream up.

]]> By: Art http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3923177 Art Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:04:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3923177 When you by 100 shares of stock for $50 a share, then the price drops to $2 a share, you haven't lost the money until you sell the stock. You are just kidding yourself. When you by 100 shares of stock for $50 a share, then the price drops to $2 a share, you haven’t lost the money until you sell the stock.
You are just kidding yourself.

]]> By: Expat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3923024 Expat Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:56:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3923024 The AEI is not a "think tank" it's a "belief tank!" They have an ideology and they twist facts into a pretzel to justify their belief system. The AEI is not a “think tank” it’s a “belief tank!” They have an ideology and they twist facts into a pretzel to justify their belief system.

]]> By: Sandakan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3923012 Sandakan Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:17:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3923012 <i>Kagan’s fat neocon ass belongs in Iraq with the troops. I’m sick and tired of these warmongering bastards cavalierly sending our troops off to fight when they lack the courage to put themselves in harm’s way for causes they ardently espouse. Retired US Army Vietnam Vet Comment by Fred Seamon — July 10, 2007 @ 5:22 am</i> Whereas people referencing their own military service, to imply that they have been in combat, when making statements that others should see combat like this never gets old. Were you awarded a purple heart during your one year serving in military intelligence in Vietnam did you Fred? Kagan’s fat neocon ass belongs in Iraq with the troops. I’m sick and tired of these warmongering bastards cavalierly sending our troops off to fight when they lack the courage to put themselves in harm’s way for causes they ardently espouse.

Retired US Army Vietnam Vet
Comment by Fred Seamon — July 10, 2007 @ 5:22 am

Whereas people referencing their own military service, to imply that they have been in combat, when making statements that others should see combat like this never gets old.

Were you awarded a purple heart during your one year serving in military intelligence in Vietnam did you Fred?

]]> By: Fred Seamon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3923010 Fred Seamon Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:22:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3923010 Kagan's fat neocon ass belongs in Iraq with the troops. I'm sick and tired of these warmongering bastards cavalierly sending our troops off to fight when they lack the courage to put themselves in harm's way for causes they ardently espouse. Retired US Army Vietnam Vet Kagan’s fat neocon ass belongs in Iraq with the troops. I’m sick and tired of these warmongering bastards cavalierly sending our troops off to fight when they lack the courage to put themselves in harm’s way for causes they ardently espouse.

Retired US Army Vietnam Vet

]]> By: TC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3923000 TC Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:11:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3923000 I have said several times, I think Bush would have to strangle a baby in full-view of these fascists and then they might finally say, maybe....that, you know this is a bad man. Fuggin' fascist scum. I have said several times, I think Bush would have to strangle a baby in full-view of these fascists and then they might finally say, maybe….that, you know this is a bad man. Fuggin’ fascist scum.

]]> By: Deniz Yeter http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922981 Deniz Yeter Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:40:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922981 Pure trash. You can tell this guy has never been in the shit in his life. He wouldn't know what to do if he was deployed in Iraq if his life depended on it. Do us all a favor and become a food critic you fat sack of crap. Please go heavy on the Trans Fats so you can go into cardiac arrest and die. It would do the world good. Pure trash.

You can tell this guy has never been in the shit in his life.

He wouldn’t know what to do if he was deployed in Iraq if his life depended on it.

Do us all a favor and become a food critic you fat sack of crap.

Please go heavy on the Trans Fats so you can go into cardiac arrest and die.

It would do the world good.

]]> By: Kilo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922975 Kilo Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:36:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922975 <blockquote>Why do all these conservatives, from Karl Rove on down, have that pudgy, doughboy, raped-in-prison look about ‘em? Picture Pat Tilman’s chiseled face. Now picture the opposite. Yes, you all immediately pictured Turdblossom Rove, didn’t ya? Now look at Karl’s pudgy-cheeked, wouldn’t-last-a-day-in-boot-camp buddy above. Comment by TC-14 — July 10, 2007 @ 2:05 am</blockquote> What are you gay ? What do you think looks count for ? Here's what a member of the SAS, and the first NZ soldier to win the Victoria Cross since WW2 looks like... http://www.defensetech.org/images/apiata.jpg

Why do all these conservatives, from Karl Rove on down, have that pudgy, doughboy, raped-in-prison look about ‘em? Picture Pat Tilman’s chiseled face. Now picture the opposite. Yes, you all immediately pictured Turdblossom Rove, didn’t ya? Now look at Karl’s pudgy-cheeked, wouldn’t-last-a-day-in-boot-camp buddy above.

Comment by TC-14 — July 10, 2007 @ 2:05 am

What are you gay ?
What do you think looks count for ?

Here’s what a member of the SAS, and the first NZ soldier to win the Victoria Cross since WW2 looks like…
http://www.defensetech.org/images/apiata.jpg

]]> By: TC-14 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922889 TC-14 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:05:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922889 Why do all these conservatives, from Karl Rove on down, have that pudgy, doughboy, raped-in-prison look about 'em? Picture Pat Tilman's chiseled face. Now picture the opposite. Yes, you all immediately pictured Turdblossom Rove, didn't ya? Now look at Karl's pudgy-cheeked, wouldn't-last-a-day-in-boot-camp buddy above. Why do all these conservatives, from Karl Rove on down, have that pudgy, doughboy, raped-in-prison look about ‘em? Picture Pat Tilman’s chiseled face. Now picture the opposite. Yes, you all immediately pictured Turdblossom Rove, didn’t ya? Now look at Karl’s pudgy-cheeked, wouldn’t-last-a-day-in-boot-camp buddy above.

]]> By: Rick http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922879 Rick Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:56:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922879 Speaking of Social Security, if the US does privatize it, I'm sure it will be as successful and popular as it is in Chile: http://www.tcf.org/list.asp?type=PB&pubid=332 Speaking of Social Security, if the US does privatize it, I’m sure it will be as successful and popular as it is in Chile:

http://www.tcf.org/list.asp?type=PB&pubid=332

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922853 kasinca Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:41:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922853 I wish I could eat Ben and Jerry’s ice cream off of Karl Rove’s ass. Comment by m12 — July 9, 2007 @ 11:11 pm You are KKKarl Rove's ass...clown, shit for brains. I wish I could eat Ben and Jerry’s ice cream off of Karl Rove’s ass.

Comment by m12 — July 9, 2007 @ 11:11 pm

You are KKKarl Rove’s ass…clown, shit for brains.

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922847 kasinca Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:39:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922847 He is just another chickenshit, chickenhawk, warmongering, coward who has never heard an incoming round or been in a firefight...he thinks war is for the profits of the military industrial complex and oil companies. Asswipes like this should be required to spend a year in combat to be eligible for their jobs. Shit would change. He is just another chickenshit, chickenhawk, warmongering, coward who has never heard an incoming round or been in a firefight…he thinks war is for the profits of the military industrial complex and oil companies. Asswipes like this should be required to spend a year in combat to be eligible for their jobs. Shit would change.

]]> By: buzzbomb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922693 buzzbomb Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:28:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922693 They should put the American Enterprise Institute on a terrorist watch list. These clowns come up with more f'en ways to kill innocent people. Get these chicken shit mofo's out of their think tank and into a real one and see how fast they crap their pants. They should put the American Enterprise Institute on a terrorist watch list. These clowns come up with more f’en ways to kill innocent people. Get these chicken shit mofo’s out of their think tank and into a real one and see how fast they crap their pants.

]]> By: Mr Blifil http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922638 Mr Blifil Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:16:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922638 at the end of the day, that argument is not going to get us anywhere right now. … Well, which is it? Right now? Or at the end of the day? at the end of the day, that argument is not going to get us anywhere right now. …

Well, which is it? Right now? Or at the end of the day?

]]> By: bluestatedon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922561 bluestatedon Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:52:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922561 Yo, Fred: You're looking more like Victor Buono every day. Better lay off the prime rib a bit. Eat a piece of fruit every once in a while, too. Maybe even do a pushup or two. The improved blood circulation might help your powers of observation. Yo, Fred: You’re looking more like Victor Buono every day. Better lay off the prime rib a bit. Eat a piece of fruit every once in a while, too. Maybe even do a pushup or two. The improved blood circulation might help your powers of observation.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922542 RUCerious Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:42:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922542 So Georgetown University is really Haifa Institute for the Criminally Insane? So Georgetown University is really Haifa Institute for the Criminally Insane?

]]> By: DonKnots http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/comment-page-6/#comment-3922456 DonKnots Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:16:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/09/kagan-escalation-success/#comment-3922456 How can the Democrats be outwitted by these idiots and their salesmanship. These people are like the kids back in high school that couldn't get a date but imaged how they could. Just like they are imagining they know how to fight a war. Maybe war will make them feel like men and make up for that lack of dates and too much time on the debate team. How can the Democrats be outwitted by these idiots and their salesmanship. These people are like the kids back in high school that couldn’t get a date but imaged how they could. Just like they are imagining they know how to fight a war. Maybe war will make them feel like men and make up for that lack of dates and too much time on the debate team.

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