Lieberman: Congress ’sniping’ at troops.
By on Jul 9th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Lieberman: Congress ’sniping’ at troops.
Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) appearing on CNBC this afternoon expressed his opposition to an amendment sponsored by Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA), which would require troops to rest for as much or more time as they are deployed. “Give the American soldiers a break,” Lieberman said. “It’s as if the American troops have the enemy on one side and Congress is sniping at their heels on the other side.” He added that Congress is advocating a “defeat, retreat strategy.” Watch it:
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July 9th, 2007 at 9:02 pmT R A I T O R &
F O R E I G N
A G E N T
July 9th, 2007 at 9:03 pmMr. President’s Megaphone Software ensures that he is in every conversation under countless names all the time – yet he is never banned.
Wonder why?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:04 pmSo Lieberdouchebag wants to support the US troops by starting a war with Iran.
Joe Lieberman, LSOS. Lying sack of sh*t.
-GSD
July 9th, 2007 at 9:04 pmTP…
July 9th, 2007 at 9:04 pmIf only we could catch Lieberman with Shrubbie’s dick in his mouth, then maybe we get him to shut the hell up.
What a tool.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:05 pmOne FACT DESTROYS THE NEOCON LIE. Regardless of the surge and any hard fought military outcome done by our voluntary military, the Puppet Government of Iraq has not, is not, will not succeed. That cold bitter pill of reality destroys and voids all the vain attempts of the Failure in Chief and his brownshirt Cabal at PNAC and AEI.
LIEberman and other Rape-Public-Can water carriers can spin their delusion till the cows come home. This was all for not because they are POWERLESS AND IMPOTENT to make others bow to their will if they do not want it.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:05 pmHow was this guy ever a Dem?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:05 pmYes, a.c.e.,
You are correct, it’s because of the JOOOOOOos!
The evil, evil JOOooOOOOoOOoOoOoOOOOoooos!
and
I’m a jOOOoo.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:06 pmSomebody please drown this little bastard in a Senate toilet.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:06 pmOnly in the twisted mind of the war-supporting crowd does putting people in harm’s way is equal to supporting them, and looking for a way to get them out of harm’s way is equal to sniping at them.
Parallel reality indeed.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:06 pmi wonder if any of his kids will be going over to iraq any time soon, and he probaly dodged vietnam also, necon chickenhawk piece of crapppppppp…..
July 9th, 2007 at 9:11 pmI am very ashamed to say that I actually voted for this jack-off idiot for vice president in 2000. What a disgrace.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:14 pmSo, Joe–what’s wrong with giving the soldiers a break? You would probably send them from Iraq straight into Iran, then maybe Syria–with no breaks at all! And you accuse the Dems of not supporting the troops? You know, Joe–it may be time for you to just slip quietly away. . . . . . . far, far away.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:14 pmLieberman strikes again: treat our troops humanely you’ll weaken them and thus encourage the terrorists and Al Qaeda murders win in Iraq. But if you run our troops to the ground and set up as targets then we’ll win the war in Iraq. Make sense—if you’re Joseph Lieberman, the neocon’s favorite lap dog. Lieberman supply the spittle and our troops supply the blood.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:14 pmlieberman is a real low life.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:15 pmNo more Lieberman! Enough already! There is no reason to ever post anything he says or does. He is a complete idiot and should be committed for his own protection.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:16 pmJust round up all the neocons, including Lieberman, and ship them all to Guantanamo.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:17 pm‘Sniping at them” because Webb wants them to spend the time at home that they are supposed to? Equal time at home as deployed?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:17 pmWhat a piece of shit Lieberman is.
TIME TO SHIP YOUR SORRY ASS OFF TO IRAQ J-E-W L-I-E-berman.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:17 pmOMG, this man has completely taken leave of his senses. Requiring that the troops are home enough to be rested is “sniping at the troops”. He couldn’t make a bigger fool out of himself even if he was trying. The American public finally knows who supports the troops and it isn’t LIEberman and his Republic brethren.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:18 pmLatest neo-con talking points:
- Giving the troops a rest emboldens the enemy.
- Rested troops: Breeding ground for terror?
- Let *them* fight terror over there, so *I* don’t have to do anything over here.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:18 pmUnless his Mossad friends can cause a false flag operation here in the US soon, Joe (Israel First) Lieberman, is going to rapidly become very, very irrelevant.
Apparently he hasn’t noticed that all of the Republican Senators are starting to jump off of the sinking Bush war ship.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:20 pmLieberman wants to give the troops a break by not giving them a break. He definitely has learned to spin like a true Republican.
But that point aside, is this not the whiniest adult male you’ve ever seen.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:20 pmBush and his war-mongering gangster adminstration have “supported” over thirty-five hundred American soldiers into their pine-box coffins.
Bush and his war-mongering gangster adminstration have “supported” over fifteen thousand American soldiers into being armless, legless and permanently disabled persons.
Bush and his war-mongering gangster adminstration have “supported” over six-hundred thousand innocent Iraqis into their graves.
Bush and his war-mongering gangster adminstration have “supported” over one million Iraqis into being permanently injured and wounded and disabled people.
We can “support our troops” back home in Kansas or North Carolina much better than continuing to force them to continue policing an imperial occupation.
The Democrats in Congress finally ended the Vietnam War by defunding it.
Sen. Lieberman’s so-called “enemy” are the people of Iraq. Time to end the illegal criminal American occupation of Iraq.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:22 pmLet’s repatriate Lieberman to Israel and be done with Clueless Joe “The Shill”.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:23 pmJoe you ignorant douche. All you gotta do is read what General Odom said on July 7th.
Connecticut should be ashamed.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:23 pmJoe Sixpack Lieberman never served in the US Military but has all the answers. Like is kiss mate George W. Bush and Cheney these guys have no idea what their talking about and were scared and cowards when the United States needed them. I also noticed that all those that follow Bush and say stay the course wouldn’t join the Military themselves. No wonder nothings gone right. You’ll read about all the rated Military men/women who are leaving the Military because they were ordered to send these young troops to die for oil and not for the reasons told to Americans. At lease the UN and world leaders know the Bush Administration lied. Even Connie Rice isn’t wanted in any talks, she is now promoting golf. What a job for the Secretary of State, and Putin is laughing as he calls others to tell just how low the US has gone.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:23 pmMr. President,
It’s not the Jews, it’s the Israelis. Lieberman, and half of the NeoConmen are putting the interests of Israel ahead of the U.S. I don’t mind; they can support whoever they wish. I just wish they’d stop lying about it.
Don’t use Jews as your strawman; it’s too transparent.
Lieberman (I-TelAviv)
July 9th, 2007 at 9:23 pmTballou: the reason why back-stabbing Lieberman is allow to shot off his stupid mouth is because of the mainstream media. The mainstream knows where’s Lieberman is coming from—and supporsts him. This is no accident. We should focus on the media for supporting tub of sh*t like Lieberman or any other neocons. The media should be charge for teason.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:25 pmLieberman believes we have to keep making them fight over there so we don’t have to pay for any benefits back here. Keep them deployed until they’re dead. That’s how you support the troops and win the war.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:25 pmI’m a jOOOoo.
Comment by Mr. President
Has it ever occurred to you that you might be offending TP commenters who might be Jewish?
Oh wait…..I forgot who I was talking to…
July 9th, 2007 at 9:25 pmLieberman believes we have to keep making them fight over there so we don’t have to pay for any benefits back here. Keep them deployed until they’re dead. That’s how you support the troops and win the war.
Comment by shane
That’s what I was thinking, shane. This idiot is totally cold-blooded.
Yeah, leave ‘em over there until they’re stiffs, or require a rubber room.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:27 pm/sarc
Comment by Diogenes — July 9, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Actually, I’m not really arguing,
it’s just funny to type:
The JOOOooooOOOOoOOOoOoOOOoooos
(not that I have anything against Jews)
Anyway, are you “the Cynic” or “Laertius”?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:27 pmMr. P would require some measure of Empathy for a thing like that.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:28 pmWhen will the good people of Connecticutt recall Lieberman. Or just car bomb his ass.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:29 pmmaybe lieberman needs to sit down and talk to a soldier with ptsd… alone….
July 9th, 2007 at 9:29 pmI apologize to all that are Jewish and were offended by my posts.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:31 pmIn fact, I actually like Lieberman, he is not a Democrat Surrender monkey.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:32 pmLieberman’s chosen words to give the impression that he is one of the few who cares for the soldiers in the Congress is misleading.
He offers nothing to soldiers,and provided no solutions.
He wants soldiers to continue fighting and to continue to sacrifice their lives,and that’s the only support he can give them….more sacrifices.
And when the question is asked…for how long?,and why?, Lieberman is quick to call people who ask such questions as advocates of ‘defeat’ and ‘retreat’.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:33 pmLieberman wants more wars called for by PNAC project.
Recently,he was calling for a big war with Iran…on top of what we have
now in Iraq and Afghanstan.
Lieberman never had to put a military uniform on, just like most of Neocons,who always demand sacrifices from others to win them their agendas.
“I am very ashamed to say that I actually voted for this jack-off idiot for vice president in 2000. What a disgrace.”
Comment by enaud — July 9, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
No, you didn’t. You voted for Al Gore for President, which was the right thing to do.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:34 pmHi Jane
July 9th, 2007 at 9:36 pmJoe Lieberman, the best senator Israel could buy.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:37 pmYeah, leave ‘em over there until they’re stiffs, or require a rubber room.
/sarc
Comment by Mistress Z
When they need a rubber room they send them back to Iraq. Too expensive to supply mental health care. Lieberman and his Bushco cronies don’t have any more respect for the troops than they do for the Iraqi people. They’re all just chattel to be used as needed to play this game for politics and cash. Hitler had nothing on these guys, they have no more empathy for their fellow man than he did and could care less how many soldiers and civilian Iraqis die.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:38 pmI apologize to all that are Jewish and were offended by my posts.
Comment by Mr. President
Very nice, Mr President. Will you cease the offensive comments?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:39 pmHitler had nothing on these guys, they have no more empathy for their fellow man than he did and could care less how many soldiers and civilian Iraqis die.
Comment by shane
You are right, shane. :(
Mea culpa…
July 9th, 2007 at 9:40 pmI apologize to all that are Jewish and were offended by my posts.
Comment by Mr. President
We’re all Jewish. F*ck you, you worthless piece of shit. I don’t know why you haven’t been thrown off this site but I can surmise that there is some software issue that allows you to get away with all the crap you pull. But anybody who leaves because you’re here is a fool because then you win. And you will NEVER win. NEVER.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:42 pmHey, willyloman, how’s the Chomsky book coming along?
Man, am I sick and tired of Lieberman and his total lack of humanity. What the hell is he thinking? Or, more to the point, who the hell is paying him? I’m also wondering, if he still had a “D” after his name, would he be given so much face time to spout this shite?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:43 pmWow.
Shane appears to be insane.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:44 pm“Joe Lieberman, the best senator Israel could buy.”
Comment by Vato — July 9, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Well, that answers one of my questions!
July 9th, 2007 at 9:45 pmLieberman == PUTZ
July 9th, 2007 at 9:45 pmIs there a single citizen of Connecticut who does not cringe, hang their head in shame, and slink away into the darkness, whenever this lying bag of monkey-flung feces pretending to be a Democrat speaks?
What alternate universe does this man inhabit? How can he be so totally divorced from reality.
By the way, thanks again, you idiots up in Connecticut, for saddling us with this bottom dwelling scum sucking neo-con suckup.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:47 pm“Must support troops by not giving them a break.”
Everything LIEberman and his war-loving comrades says anymore is just bizarro gobbledygook. It reminds me of years ago, the first time I saw Monty Python. Maybe, like that show, I’ll grow to love this over time as well.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:48 pmLieberman needs the shit slapped out of him.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:51 pm#6…maybe then we could get impeachment back on that friggin’ table!
July 9th, 2007 at 9:52 pmthe reason why back-stabbing Lieberman is allow to shot off his stupid mouth is because of the mainstream media
Comment by Armando Gomez
This is too true…how is this guy getting so much air time lately. Every few days he’s opening his yap to spout more Karl Rove talking points.
If only we could catch Lieberman with Shrubbie’s dick in his mouth, then maybe we get him to shut the hell up.
What a tool.
Comment by numfar
Finally. something to impeach Bush for.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:56 pmWow.
Shane appears to be insane.
Comment by Mr. President
Yeah, watch your back, you pathetic little wienie.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:58 pmThe Chomsey book is fascinating. You know how he is. A great deal of history that we would sometimes rather not know. but just after 9-11 he was predicting this very same mess with iraq.
One interesting thing he talks about is that right after the attack, there was not really a movement in NY for retribution.
He was saying that it was the media that was really starting the swell at that time toward Afganistan, and not the people.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:59 pmComment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
Maybe when you grow up a little more, you’ll understand why Shane’s so pissed at you (and she wouldn’t be the only one.) You’re intelligent, but you lack empathy and maturity. I sincerely hope that you attain both eventually. Unless your sole aim here is to disrupt the thread and drive people away, I’d suggest that you think a bit before you post more offensive comments. I’m not saying that you have to just nod and agree with everyone here, just exercise that intelligence a little more often. :-)
July 9th, 2007 at 10:01 pmWhat is wrong with you people in Connecticut? How can you inflict the rest of the nation with this douchebag? Is it the harsh winters? The tiny size of your state? The silent “T”? What is it???
July 9th, 2007 at 10:02 pmFinally. something to impeach Bush for.
Comment by funky p
Yep. I looked it up. Sucking like a chicken-head is an impeachable offense. in the constitution.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:03 pmComment by willyloman — July 9, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Some would argue that NYers were more interested in a move toward normalcy at that time. That is, until Bush got up with his megaphone and tapped into the revenge instinct.
But we digress…
July 9th, 2007 at 10:04 pmSo let me get this straight — the gentleman from Connecticut is dispensing lessons on military readiness to James “Fields of Fire” Webb, a Marine Corp Vietnam infantry vet and former Secretary of the Navy? Maybe his Israeli friends told him the IDF does tighter rotations. That would be part of the problem — Lieberman confuses Israel with the country he’s elected to represent.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:05 pmComment by Jane E. Schneider — July 9, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Shane has a personal vendetta towards me and CT, it’s nothing new.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:05 pmAnyway, I guess that nobody bothered to tell Lieberman that the end of the war just started this week.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:05 pmIts wonderful to listen to so much anti-semitism on here. After reading the posts and responses about Joe Lieberman on here and other liberal blogs, I am appauled. Yea, its great to hear things like “Lieberman (I-Israel)” and how israel is an apartheid state ect ect. This is the new antisemitism.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:05 pmlieberman wouldn’t know military strategy if it threw him an ‘independent’ fundraiser that was curiously attended by mostly republicans.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:07 pmSpeaking of insane, LIEberman seems to have gone over the edge!
Mad Man LIEberman contends that wanting to let our troops REST is SNIPING at them. The idiot LIEberman is as crazed as the idiot Mr. (curent corrupt, crooked) president troll who wants to have LIEberman’s baby.
Can a senator be removed if it is proved that he is criminally INSANE?
Insane Trolls belong under the bridge, but what to with do insane senators?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:11 pmThanks Jane. But I’m as mad at Lieberman as I am at Mr. P. They’re both a disgrace. And really, I haven’t seen one member of congress who will fall on their sword for this country. They are all, each and every one, more concerned with keeping their jobs than they are for the welfare of the US. The only people making ANY sacrifice whatsoever are the soldiers in Iraq and we are denying them the most basic protection. They haven’t even received all the armored humvees they should have to prevent some of the brain injuries they suffer. And then we send them back to Iraq with injuries that would have kept them at home even in Viet Nam.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:11 pmThis portion of history can only be compared with Hitler’s Germany, where the people and politicians watched what was happening but did nothing. And the trolls here are like the good soldiers of the Reich.
A progress report on Iraq will conclude that the U.S.-backed government in Baghdad has not met any of its targets for political, economic and other reform, speeding up the Bush administration’s reckoning on what to do next, a U.S. official said Monday.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3896711.html
July 9th, 2007 at 10:11 pmShane has a personal vendetta towards me and CT, it’s nothing new.
Comment by Mr. President
And, typically of someone lacking in maturity, you take absolutely no responsibility for Shane’s anger at your behavior.
Poor little you. People just pick on you for no reason at all.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:12 pmThis portion of history can only be compared with Hitler’s Germany, where the people and politicians watched what was happening but did nothing. And the trolls here are like the good soldiers of the Reich.
Comment by shane — July 9, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
Ummm….
BwAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 9th, 2007 at 10:14 pm* w00t *
mike malloy is on XM – AirAmerica…
he is talking about michael moore on blitzer tonight…
sounds like moore let loose and the cameras kept rolling…
will have to find that… C&L, Mediamatters has it…
July 9th, 2007 at 10:14 pm.
Dear Mr. P -
As before, I’ll be your huckleberry.
I too am a Jew. And I’ve kicked your pathetic repetitious ass up and down these blogs since I’ve been here. Unlike some of my friends here, I’ve got nothing better to do. Anything intelligent to say to me (it would be a first…)? I, ahem, we’re waiting.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:14 pmThought Id try this on a newer thread.
What if Bush is not all that dumb? It is possible that he, knowing the great threat of Islam to the west, invaded Iraq with the intention of starting a pan-muslim civil war and knowing the Dems would win this past election and predictably pull the troops out leading to the regional outbreak? The muslims would blow the crap out of each other, the US population would blame the Dems for the escalation, the republicans will win back the congress and the white house and life goes on.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:15 pmMichael Moore demands apology from Wolf Blitzer
July 9th, 2007 at 10:17 pmBy: John Amato @ 4:38 PM – PDT
Michael Moore went off on Wolfie and CNN for a hit piece they aired about “Sicko†right before he came on. He was hot! He slapped the beard around pretty good…
[...]
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/09/michael-moore-demands-apology-from-wolf-blitzer/
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
You’ve kicked my ass?
I don’t think so chump!
All you’ve done is ask me to fill out a survey, and I did.
Anyway, this is the most intelligent comment on the current thread:
July 9th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Shane has a personal vendetta towards me and CT, it’s nothing new.
Comment by Mr. President
That’s because you turn every thread into a thread about you. This country is going through a time so difficult that grown men want to weep, but you insist on being the center of attention so that we all discuss you instead of the issues.
I don’t know what your motivation for being here is. I don’t really care. But most of us are here to try and make this country and world a better place and you are a huge impediment to that end.
And obviously your latest diversion is to accuse others of having a vendetta against your or of namejacking you. But it’s all crap. It’s just your way, whatever the motivation, of getting attention away from the topic of the thread. We are the minority of this country that even cares about what is going on and you choose to treat us with contempt and side with the people who choose to destroy the greatness the US has always known.
You are a traitor and guilty of treason, and hopefully some day you will pay for your crimes.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:19 pmEverybody here has a personal vendetta against you, you apologist, troll, dickhead.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:19 pmRetro,
Unless you are Rev. Vinnie, in that case I made a fool out of you on the global warming whatever thread the other day!
July 9th, 2007 at 10:19 pmComment by Jane E. Schneider — July 9, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Very well said, Jane.
Pay attention, Mr President…..
July 9th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThis is the new antisemitism.
Comment by Anonymous
There it is. Any questioning of Far-Rightwing israeli Policy is Antisemitism. Except for the miriad of Irsaeli Pro-Palistinian Groups and the fact that many political parties in Israel also don’t support the Policy of seperation in Gaza and the West Bank.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:21 pmIf not for all that, inside Israel, I might say you had a point. But unless you want to say they are all “self hating jews”, you may be covering for something else.
The evidence mounts. You’ve ducked challenges to your logic and repeated posts from your co-conspirators. Anything to add?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:21 pmComment by Troll — July 9, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
at this point, it’s not about what bush’s secret supergenius intentions might have been in 2002-2003. regardless of what’s happening on the ground, he will punt iraq along until january 2009. which is the opposite of supporting the troops—he’s hanging them out to dry. and that is truly ‘dumb.’
July 9th, 2007 at 10:23 pmThe evidence mounts. You’ve ducked challenges to your logic and repeated posts from your co-conspirators. Anything to add?
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
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Be specific.
If you have asked me a question in the past and I have not answered it is most likely because I did not see it, or it was too moronic to dignify a response.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:23 pmRev. Vinnie can speak for themself. Your job is to deal with me. You haven’t made a fool of me and you aren’t capable of doing so. You won’t offend me; you’ll only make yourself and your cause look even more marginal. Proceed, sir.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:24 pmProceed, sir.
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Proceed with what?
What the hell are you asking?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:25 pmWith your tripe. It does nothing for your position. Carry on.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI believe Mr. Pee has been challenged to a duel.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:27 pmOnce again, in typical troll behavior, the pathetic Bush cult followers will not touch the actual topic of the thread, which is that we just found out what “support our troops” actually means: “Let them eat cake”.
They have worked so much on perfecting their Doublespeak, it simply comes naturally to them. And reality is giving the a bad case of cognitive dissonance.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:28 pmC’mon. Say something original. Every time I appear and engage you, you disappear and someone else takes your place. Coincidence?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:29 pmSo, Joe–what’s wrong with giving the soldiers a break? You would probably send them from Iraq straight into Iran, then maybe Syria–with no breaks at all!
No, that’s Hillary’s job.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:29 pmI believe Mr. Pee has been challenged to a duel.
Comment by Egreggious — July 9, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
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I thought I had been too. But then Retrogrouch becomes a broken record.
What the hell does he want to talk about?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:29 pmLieberman is so BS. Why is the truth so hard to find these days?
Catch it on Raw Story. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Michael_Moore_shames_CNN_Blitzer_on_0709.html
I love the cracks afterwards by perfect Lou “Airbrush Phony Smile” Dobbs and Cafferty. Poor “Wolf Blitzer” (I couldn’t make up a better, more bogus name for this wimpy character), he had a tough interview in which a guy called CNN out on its BS not once but twice. Ouch. He shouldn’t have to put up with that edgy truthy stuff. No fun. As Cafferty wisecracked, he doesn’t get paid enough. Very revealing as to how these guys think. It’s about the money. Not the truth. Our news media is dead. Morally dead. Brain dead.
MM is just right and these talking buttheads who say they report the news don’t ask the tough questions. They don’t think. You know which of the viable Democratic candidates really sat back and thought? Used his/her head before jumping on the bandwagon to rush into Iraq? Not Hillary and she still won’t even admit she was wrong – another bad reflection on her character if you ask me. Not Edwards either, though he’s trying to spin it into a “Look. I can learn! I’m not brain dead like the rest of them!” moment. Obama. He did. He stopped looked and listened while so many politicians and the media sprinted after Bush, Cheney, Rove, Gonzales and the rest of ‘em like lemmings over a giant, totally foreseeable cliff.
Really. I’ll tell you what’s Sicko. The stupidity of our politicians. The public is getting smarter. They were totally blindsided by a President so evil that he would sacrifice our national interests for partisan and petty personal gain. Unthinkable. But with the media behind these Republican shysters and Murdoch pumping his billions into the mess, the public bought it.
Well they ain’t buying it anymore. The polls show it. The Republicans – the ones still sleeping that is – can whine about it’s his fault, her fault, not my fault, blah blah blah, but America is waking up. Fox-Republican officials and politicians – mark my words, your political careers as you know them are finito.
Sorry for the rant. Sometimes the truth ain’t pertie, as Bush I’m sure would say.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:29 pmComment by Troll — July 9, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
Smart people aren’t instigators. Smart people don’t set wheels in motion without knowing, for sure, that they will be able to control the progress of the machine attached to the wheel. Bush is not an evil genius – he’s simple-minded and evil.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:29 pmC’mon. Say something original. Every time I appear and engage you, you disappear and someone else takes your place. Coincidence?
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
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Are you a megaphone user?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:30 pmHe’s asking you to kill yourself.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:30 pm“What the hell does he want to talk about?
Comment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007″
here’s an idea: why don’t the two of you discuss what lieberman said?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:31 pmWhat the hell does he want to talk about?
Comment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
I think you get to choose the weapon. How about Joe LIEberman, since that’s the actual topic of this thread?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:32 pmAnything you’d like, Mr. P. What are you, pro-war or anti-Jew? Take a stand on LIEberman. State your position already. Topic!
July 9th, 2007 at 10:32 pmPgw
The Dems will not fund it that long. This strategy would take care of Irans nukes too. Afganistan would possibly take em out if the Saudis dont.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:33 pmAnything you’d like, Mr. P. What are you, pro-war or anti-Jew? Take a stand on LIEberman. State your position already. Topic!
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
I refer you to the statement that I have already made:
Comment #39
July 9th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
Lieberman has as much credibility on Iraq as Graham, McCain, Cheney and Bush. He damages it every time he makes statements that are out of touch with the reality on the ground in Iraq. Soldiers who are serving in Iraq should definitely get rest periods of as much time as they are deployed or even up to a year. Lieberman is no longer a democrat. He was voted out of the democratic party by the voters of CT.
He should have spoken to the soldiers who wanted to know when they would go home but didn’t talk to Lieberman because he has no credibility. Wanting to bring troops home is not a retreat strategy. It is the only option left. Most Americans are not prepared to let even one more American soldier die from an IED attack. It is immoral for him to continue to support a strategy that has failed.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:36 pmwhy is he still head of a Committee? He is no longer a Democrat- his party chose to send someone else, he did lose the Primary, right?
Can anyone easily answer that for me?
thanks.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:36 pmSo, you like Lieberman. But that doesn’t rationalize your weakly disguised ridicule of Jews that you lamely apologized for. Position, please.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:36 pmIn fact, I actually like Lieberman, he is not a Democrat Surrender monkey.
Comment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
I think he is a monkey.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:36 pmwhy is he still head of a Committee? He is no longer a Democrat- his party chose to send someone else, he did lose the Primary, right?
Can anyone easily answer that for me?
Harry Reid wants his majority leader paycheck.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:37 pmIn fact, I actually like Lieberman, he is not a Democrat Surrender monkey.
Lieberman is a perfect example of principle over politics; a man who refuses to be part of the Surrender Caucus.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:38 pmWhat if Bush is not all that dumb? It is possible that he, knowing the great threat of Islam to the west, invaded Iraq with the intention of starting a pan-muslim civil war and knowing the Dems would win this past election and predictably pull the troops out leading to the regional outbreak? The muslims would blow the crap out of each other, the US population would blame the Dems for the escalation, the republicans will win back the congress and the white house and life goes on.
Comment by Troll
What if you could make monkeys fly out of your butt? There’s just as much evidence to support that theory as yours.
Why not stick to the subject, instead of posting utterly stupid and ridiculous tripe?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:39 pmJoe Liebermann (I-Israel) better watch his ass.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:39 pmHe pisses off enough ex-snipers, his retirement years will be spent looking over his shoulder.
Lieberman. Heh… just look at that clown. See ya little buddy. Things
are lookin pretty grim.
snake eyes.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:39 pmI think Lieberman got his Committee post so that he would caucus with the Democrats and provide them with the majority in the Senate. I’m not sure if it’s necessary to still keep him there anymore.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:40 pmPosition, please.
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:36 pm
Sure,
Go Fukc Yourself!
I didn’t ridicule jews at all, I ridiculed a.c.e. the conspiracy theorist.
Have you even read the comments on this thread or did you just assume shit?
Position.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:40 pmComment by Troll — July 9, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
I wouldn’t call that “not so dumb”, I’d call it “just plain evil”. Leave out the “knowing the great threat of Islam to the west”, he knew no such thing. The rest of it, I wouldn’t put past him. To incite what would most likely become WWIII for mere party politics goes beyond insanity. And that’s what PNAC is all about, the NeoCons’ twisted, insane plan for the world, centered around their inhuman fraternity. Life would not “go on” in any semblance of what that phrase implies.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:40 pmSorry for the rant. Sometimes the truth ain’t pertie, as Bush I’m sure would say.
Comment by jd — July 9, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Thanks for the link, jd, and the rant. :)
July 9th, 2007 at 10:41 pmKaty, thanks for the link to Michael Moore and Blitzer. It is priceless. It appears that Moore is as pissed off as I am today.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:42 pmAs someone who’s actually been to Iraq for more than just a secure photo-op visit to an outdoor market, I feel free to say that Joe Lieberman can go to hell.
Lieberman has NO idea what it’s like to be a military member compelled to execute a policy without regard to whether or not he or she agrees with it. He has no idea what it’s like to be a reservist ordered to deploy for the fifth time, after serving once in Afghanistan and three times in Iraq. He has no idea what it’s like to be on active duty and be home from deployment for only a month or two before being ordered to return to combat.
Never mind that the Bush administration lied us into Iraq in the first place. If Lieberman could simply identify a desired end state and a target date for completion, the soldiers he feels free to abuse would have an idea what they’re supposed to accomplish and by when. When the target date keeps changing, when the objective constantly changes or is never defined, when diplomacy and economic persuasion are held in contempt, and when the administration feels free to abuse those of us in uniform, members of the military know who’s REALLY “pro-military.” It’s not Lieberman.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:42 pmHi Jane and Mistress Z~
July 9th, 2007 at 10:42 pmI thought I’d come back now that the troll shite is only ankle deep.
thanks M12- I guess. anyone with a real answer?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:43 pmComment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
The “Democrat surrender monkey” routine is getting rather old and stale at this point, when even Republican Congresscritters are calling for a different strategy in Iraq.
You should read the newspapers more often, you pathetic, social life lacking, petty-minded, namejacking Bush cult follower.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:43 pmLieberman is a perfect example of principle over politics; a man who refuses to be part of the Surrender Caucus.
Comment by m12 — July 9, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
Exactly. When all the Dems had started their defeatist whining, Lieberman chose to do what was best for the country.
He is not another whimpy crowd follower… (e.g. Hillary trying to take back her prior vote of support for the war)
July 9th, 2007 at 10:44 pmOne of you trolls, pray tell, the justification for continuing this war *with* and *for* Iraq. Please explain how after 4 and a half years of your President utterly failing to get his ‘Victory’ with absolutely no end in sight, why, based on what, can you argue to continue to support this travesty? Do you make a habit of supporting perpetuous failures?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:45 pmOoh, profanity. Typically Republican blogs don’t allow it because that makes them more pure. I’m surprised.
I would read your stuff more if you weren’t so dependent upon ctrl v.
That’s my position. The more you cut and paste, the more you contradict yourself. There is no consistency, much like the party you apparently support. So keeping talking, and further discredit your cause. And try to do it without the pottymouth if you can, there are children like Tupe reading this.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:45 pmAre they still using “surrender monkey”?
because if Mr. P is still using it, maybe it’s got something to do with this home video i found of him having a snack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM7Rpf1×7RU
July 9th, 2007 at 10:46 pmBill McKern ~
July 9th, 2007 at 10:47 pmHeard a story today about a soldier suing the Army, reservist called up for his fifth deployment, first to Afghanistan, then three in Iraq.
What on earth do they think soldiers are made of?
#
I think Lieberman got his Committee post so that he would caucus with the Democrats and provide them with the majority in the Senate. I’m not sure if it’s necessary to still keep him there anymore.
Comment by Egreggious — July 9, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
thanks for that- i agree, i think he doesn’t deserve a post. It should be for election winning Democrats. They should give one of the newbies his post for experience.
thanks again.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:47 pmHowza bout we coin Republican death and destruction howler chymps.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:47 pmSo keeping talking, and further discredit your cause. And try to do it without the pottymouth if you can, there are children like Tupe reading this.
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
Okay.
I accept your surrender.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:47 pmComment by JoeySoCal — July 9, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
We have already won the war.
Now we are doing charity work for the Iraqi people.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:49 pmPray tell? Are you declaring victory like your Crawford hero while nowhere near the objective?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:49 pmAre you happy now, Connecticut?
Stupid, snobby, republican, a$$bags.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:49 pmJane,
Things sure would be different but I dont imagine the motive to be pure political gain. If he believes god told him to invade in the first place maybe he sees a pan-muslim war as the saving event of western civilization.
A regional war when we withdraw is very probable. The Saudis and Iran are sure to square off.
The political fallout on the Dems is likely and to keep gummitch happy Democrat Joe Lieberman will be a hawk dem leader to help the party recover.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI would love to know who Lieberman represents, because it aint us.
Someone mentioned Michael Moore’s movie earlier in this thread. My husband is a physician and was actually head of our state’s medical society and is very active in health care reform. His practice is with state aid patients, you know, the ones that other docs don’t wish to see because the insurance reimbursement isn’t that great. He saw Sicko and said it was right on the money. He had actually been nervous about seeing it because he thought Moore was coming after the doctors. He ended up being very impressed and inspired.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:50 pmThough he says he’s an Independent, Lieberman caucuses with the Democrats and votes with them on procedural matters. As a result, he gets to maintain his seniority, committee memberships, and committee chairmanship.
When Jim Jeffords switched from Republican to Independent and began caucusing with Democrats, he ended up chairing two different committees at times when the Democrats held the majority.
Bernie Sanders is an Independent who also caucuses with the Democrats, as he did when he was a US House member. As a result, his seniority and committee memberships are determined by the Democrats.
The Democrats have a 51-49 edge in the Senate at the moment, counting Lieberman and Sanders. In theory, they could kick Lieberman out of the caucus and strip him of his committee chairmanship. However, members of the Senate try to be collegial, and Harry Reid has often expressed his admiration for Lieberman. I think Lieberman should be kicked out of the caucus, but he’ll probably stick with the Dems until the next Republican majority, when he’ll try to switch and take his seniority with him.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:51 pmBack on track.
This is not a Republic/Democrat issue. Joe Lieberman represents the neocon political faction (Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz). Not conservative (Reagan, Bush I), not liberal (the Clintons and Kennedys, FDR). Neocon.
Characteristics of the Neocon: Will lie and/or cheat and/or slander to advance self/goals. No military service – in fact neocons are cowards to man (they seem to have no compunction regarding someone else fighting for them). An overwhelming sense of self-entitlement. An overrepresentation of sociopaths within the group.
The only reason the neocons were able to take over the Republic Party, is because that’s where the gullibility is. Republicans are stupid enough to be lied to repeatedly – and, in truly disfunctional fashion, protect thosew who abuse them.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:51 pmLieberman is a perfect example of principle over politics; a man who refuses to be part of the Surrender Caucus.
Comment by m12
There is no surrender caucus. There is no surrender needed. There is withdrawal from occupied territory. There is retreat from invasion. But if we were to surrender, who exactly would we surrender to? Can you answer that question. When pulling out of Iraq, who would we be surrendering to?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:51 pmMr. President,
what the hell kind of freaked out trip are you on, little fella?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:51 pmComment by Bill McKern — July 9, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
Thank you for your service, and for your excellent post!
July 9th, 2007 at 10:52 pmI think Lieberman got his Committee post so that he would caucus with the Democrats and provide them with the majority in the Senate. I’m not sure if it’s necessary to still keep him there anymore.
Comment by Egreggious — July 9, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
thanks for that- i agree, i think he doesn’t deserve a post. It should be for election winning Democrats. They should give one of the newbies his post for experience.
thanks again.
Comment by seth
Problem is, if they did that, LIEberman would join the Republican party, giving Repukes the majority.
They have to cajole him right now.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:52 pmHey Mr. Presidick, George Bush is at Red Lobster, he’s waiting for you to join him. Jackass.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:52 pmComment by alp3 — July 9, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
It’s called reality, try it some time.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:53 pmComment by JoeySoCal — July 9, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
Sweet, I’m on my way!
July 9th, 2007 at 10:54 pmWhen pulling out of Iraq, who would we be surrendering to?
Comment by shane
“the better angels of our nature”?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:55 pmI think he should be sent to Iraq as an Army private, and put on point in a constant, never-ending patrol of the worst neighborhoods in Baghdad.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:56 pmMr. President,
what the hell kind of freaked out trip are you on, little fella?
Comment by alp3
At first I thought it was too much Ritalin, but I suspect it’s actually a diet of Red Bull and Doritos.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:57 pmMarcus, I’m thinking Dora. Or Sadr City. Anywhere but the Green Zone.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:57 pmWhere’d you go, Mr. P? You hadn’t talked your crap to anyone else here for 45 minutes. We were on a roll. I’ll call that Mission Accomplished. Please bring your ‘A’ game next time. G’night.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:57 pmIt’s called reality, try it some time.
Comment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
heh. man, you’re just about done. right?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:58 pmfukcin’ bus stop lunatic.
did i misunderstand him when he said that the surge is working and the troops are risking and losing their lives for this winning strategy??!!?? – he also mentioned that “progress is being made” – F**K aren’t we sick of that one!!! – so having young people die every day is ok because it is represents the success of a surge in somebody elses civil war and that is progress and we should keep at it?? – how does this guy get away with saying s**t like this?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:59 pmWe have already won the war.
Now we are doing charity work for the Iraqi people.
Comment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Really you twit? Well I’m sure that would be interesting for each and every one of our soldiers to know that instead sacrificing life and limb in the defense of America, they are now sacrificing themselves as involuntary charity work for Mr. Presidick and his derelict war.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:59 pmAt first I thought it was too much Ritalin, but I suspect it’s actually a diet of Red Bull and Doritos.
Comment by gummitch —
HAHAHAHAAA.
That is so funny. Thank you for the levity.
:)
July 9th, 2007 at 10:59 pmComment by JoeySoCal — July 9, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Yup. Really.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:00 pmOkay by me. As long as its dangerous, terrifying and endless to the point of monotony. the rest of the unit should consist of Rove, Bush, Wolfowitz, and the Bush twins (Bush gets double punishment for being the deciderer).
July 9th, 2007 at 11:01 pmOh, and please resist the temptation to mouth off while I’m not logged in. To paraphrase your hero and apparent intellectual equal, I’m fighting you over here so they don’t have to fight you over there. Sweet dreams.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:01 pmWhere’d you go, Mr. P? You hadn’t talked your crap to anyone else here for 45 minutes. We were on a roll. I’ll call that Mission Accomplished. Please bring your ‘A’ game next time. G’night.
Comment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
What are you blabbering about?
You already conceded!!!
July 9th, 2007 at 11:02 pmRead “Imperial Life in the Emerald City” by Rajiv Chandrasekaran. Brother, that book gave me such a better perspective of the the mind set of the Administration VS. what is really happening on the ground in Iraq – you know, NOT in the Green Zone! It also paints a VERY CLEAR picture how we got to where we are today. I just finished it and I am going to read it again.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:02 pmHey Mr. Presitwit, if you mean what you say, and you are not the world’s biggest sissy, then instead of whining about it here, why don’t you walk up to a United States Marine and tell him that he’s doing charity work in Iraq, and you think that’s exactly what he should be doing? Hm? It should not be hard to find one. And let us all know how that goes, you know, if your still conscious when he’s done.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:07 pmComment by Bill McKern
July 9th, 2007 at 11:08 pmBill, thank you for your service. I hope some (ALL) of the LIEberlovers on this site take the time to read your post. The trolls here are just as smug as LIEberman and just as credible.
Geez, now the US is going after Canadian oil:
From the AP,
TORONTO – Canada announced plans Monday to increase its Arctic military presence in an effort to assert sovereignty over the Northwest Passage – a potentially oil-rich region the United States claims is international territory.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper said six to eight patrol ships will guard what he says are Canadian waters. A deep water port will also be built in a region the U.S. Geological Survey estimates has as much as 25 percent of the world’s undiscovered oil and gas.
“Canada has a choice when it comes to defending our sovereignty over the Arctic. We either use it or lose it. And make no mistake, this government intends to use it,” Harper said. “It is no exaggeration to say that the need to assert our sovereignty and protect our territorial integrity in the North on our terms have never been more urgent.”
July 9th, 2007 at 11:08 pmAnd let us all know how that goes, you know, if your still conscious when he’s done.
Comment by JoeySoCal — July 9, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
Okay. There are plenty of kids in the military that go to my school, I will do it tomorrow. (I don’t know if they are in the marines or not, however)
July 9th, 2007 at 11:11 pmIn fact the Democrats do not have to stroke Lieberman to keep their Senate majority. Rules of organization adopted at the start of the current session would leave the Democrats in charge even if the Senate was 50-50. Maybe they want to keep one extra as the margin for error, in the event of an unexpected death or resignation?
July 9th, 2007 at 11:13 pmComment by Retrogrouch — July 9, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
What are you blabbering about?
You already conceded!!!
Comment by Mr. President
No he did not. He did no such thing. You just spouted this lie earlier and now your coming back like it’s fact. Again you have said nothing, afraid to lose a debate and unable to win any arguments.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:13 pmYes, thank you, Bill McKern.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:13 pm“Heard a story today about a soldier suing the Army, reservist called up for his fifth deployment, first to Afghanistan, then three in Iraq.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:14 pmWhat on earth do they think soldiers are made of?”..they are actually keeping most of the soldiers with ptsd over there, because a lot of them can longer adjust to regular society anymore.
Comment by Troll — July 9, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
You seem to think that all this would be happening in a bubble consisting of Bush and the other PNACers vs the Middle East. Do you really think that genuinely patriotic US citizens, as well as the rest of the world, would just sit back and watch?
July 9th, 2007 at 11:15 pmOkay. There are plenty of kids in the military that go to my school, I will do it tomorrow. (I don’t know if they are in the marines or not, however)
Comment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
you sad sack of sh*t.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:16 pmComment by shane — July 9, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
Sure he did. He told me to keep doing what I was doing, and he put forth no question.
There was no debate.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:16 pmComment by alp3 — July 9, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
Well, Fukc You Very Much!
July 9th, 2007 at 11:16 pmOkay. There are plenty of kids in the military that go to my school, I will do it tomorrow. (I don’t know if they are in the marines or not, however)
Comment by Mr. President
Caught in another lie. Didn’t you say you were out of school for the summer?
July 9th, 2007 at 11:17 pmHey, RUCerious, glad to see you couldn’t stay away either. :D
July 9th, 2007 at 11:17 pmCaught in another lie. Didn’t you say you were out of school for the summer?
Comment by shane — July 9, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
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No. In fact, I have to do homework right now. I’m sure I’ll see a shit-load of comments from you when I return.
Don’t feel bad if I do not respond to them all.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:19 pmMaybe they want to keep one extra as the margin for error, in the event of an unexpected death or resignation?
Comment by Bill McKern
The one Senator who suffered the brain aneurysm is still unable to vote. I think that’s one problem.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:20 pmHi Jane and Mistress Z~
I thought I’d come back now that the troll shite is only ankle deep.
Comment by RUCerious
Yeah, I decided I wasn’t coming back until I could get rid of my hip-waders. They’re too warm this time of year…. :)
July 9th, 2007 at 11:20 pmIn fact the Democrats do not have to stroke Lieberman to keep their Senate majority. Rules of organization adopted at the start of the current session would leave the Democrats in charge even if the Senate was 50-50. Maybe they want to keep one extra as the margin for error, in the event of an unexpected death or resignation?
Comment by Bill McKern —
Thank you, Bill.
I just thought that if he left the Dem’s, although they technically would have control, Lieberman would lockstep with the Repubs – thus giving them the edge.
Very good point.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:21 pmThank you for your service, and thank you for your posts.
:)
159. Comment by trueblue
lets see them sell the Canada has WMD story.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:21 pmJane, just like a spider to the fly.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:22 pmLieberman is a dirty rotton shoe, and a xylaphoneist.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:22 pmSure he did. He told me to keep doing what I was doing, and he put forth no question.
There was no debate.
Comment by Mr. President
On the contrary, he told you to pick a topic and you declined to do so which he took as a concession that you were unwilling to debate. He won by your omission. We all saw it.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:23 pmBill McK, did you see the post about Sen Vitter (Whoremongerer-LA)
July 9th, 2007 at 11:23 pmbeing on the madam’s list? Perhaps there’ll be a vacancy sooner than later.
Mr President i am guessing you are a female aged 16-19 am i correct.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:23 pmDon’t feel bad if I do not respond to them all.
Comment by Mr. President
Oh, Yeah. – - -
We’ll miss you like we’d miss the clap.
Narcissistic a-hole.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:24 pmComment by Mr. President — July 9, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
Ok Mr. P-twit, do not renig on your promise. I will be looking for your results.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:24 pmNo. In fact, I have to do homework right now. I’m sure I’ll see a shit-load of comments from you when I return.
Don’t feel bad if I do not respond to them all.
Comment by Mr. President
Oh I bet if I look I’ll dig up the post where you said you were out of school and that’s why you were here all the time. Do you really want me to dig up that post?
July 9th, 2007 at 11:24 pm159. Comment by trueblue
lets see them sell the Canada has WMD story.
Comment by willyloman
I heard they were buying yellow cake from china.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:25 pmOr was it yellow bahn mi from chinatown?
And no distorting or sugar-coating, be as direct and callous as you are on this blog. And no wearing a helmet.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:25 pmYou had the clap?
July 9th, 2007 at 11:26 pmTraitor Joe LIEberman can either go to Iraq with a rifle in his hand, or shut his dirty yapper, or resign from the Senate and move to Israel.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:26 pmI heard they were buying yellow cake from china.
Or was it yellow bahn mi from chinatown?
Comment by RUCerious
i heard it was China White from Rush Limbaugh
July 9th, 2007 at 11:26 pmI mean, take off the one you usually wear.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:27 pmYou had the clap?
Comment by willyloman
She’s the one I was telling you about, willy.
Er…..don’t forget your Cheze Pufes ™.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:27 pmI mean, take off the helmet that you usually wear to class.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:27 pmNO!!!!
I knew someone would say that.
I just didn’t think it’d be someone from my team.
:(
July 9th, 2007 at 11:29 pmI thought it was a disgusting enough comparison to let him know how much he is loathed here.
She’s the one I was telling you about, willy.
Er…..don’t forget your Cheze Pufes ™.
Comment by Mistress Z
I know, that’s why I asked. Emphasis on “had”.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:29 pmI thought it was a disgusting enough comparison to let him know how much he is loathed here.
Comment by trueblue
I think we would rather have the clap, than him. At least we can get rid of that. or…so they say.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:31 pmHey!!
I didn’t get the memo that it was “gang up on trueblue night”.
Waaaa!
(Major pout face)
July 9th, 2007 at 11:32 pmtru ~ I thought you were talking about your students applauding…
July 9th, 2007 at 11:33 pm:}
trueblue, you teach?
July 9th, 2007 at 11:34 pmLieberman chairs the homeland security and governmental affairs committee. The ranking Republican and former chairman is Susan Collins of Maine. Collins contributed to and campaigned for Lieberman last year. Collins is up for reelection next year and Lieberman is returning the favor. Lieberman and Collins have also been more collegial than most chairmen and ranking members when it comes to apportioning subcommittee assignments and even the way the chairs are arranged in the committee room. It should be clear that Lieberman is caucusing with Democrats only so he can chair his committee. To me, it seems that if he’s going to reap the benefits he ought to accept the responsibility. As of now, though, no one is holding him to account.
A few years ago former Senator Bob Smith, a right wing whacko from New Hampshire, left the Republican party and ran for President as the candidate of a third party. He made a Senate speech when he left the Republicans in which he absolutely trashed them for abandoning conservative principles. The John Chafee of Rhode Island died and the chairmanship of the Environment and Public Works became vacant. Smith would have had a claim based on seniority, but he was no longer a Republican. NO PROBLEM! He merely rejoined the GOP with his seniority and received his chairmanship as though nothing had ever happened.
Clearly, principles take a back seat to power.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:34 pmOh,
Such a gentleman, RUC.
Please don’t skewer me, but I actually only know that the clap is a VD. Nothing else.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:35 pmOoops, did I get you mixed up with unbelievable?
July 9th, 2007 at 11:35 pmMy bad, oK, just the gang applauding then…
Damn.
tru ~ Well at least my coat got muddy, but there’s always the dry cleaners.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:37 pmBill,
Thanks for the info. Let’s hope Lieberman digs his own grave.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:41 pmChrist, what a grifter.
tru ~ Well at least my coat got muddy, but there’s always the dry cleaners.
Comment by RUCerious
I suppose that would get you a kiss on the cheek during the more chivalrous days.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:42 pmJeff Gannon on his escort website said he is a TOP only, so Bush calling him “Bulldog” implies that Dubya is a submissive BOTTOM > lol.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:44 pmtru ~ Aww garsh, I’ze blushin.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:45 pmWhoops wanted post 204 for the thread above this one > sorry.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:45 pmComment by willyloman — July 9, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
No, you are wrong. I didnt say anything that you mentioned. People on here ridicule joe lieberman with “I-israel” because he is jewish. If it was any other right winger, you would just criticise there policies, not their religion. Oh yea, and i never mentioned criticizing israel. I said people on here and other blogs call it an apartheid state. Well guess what…Syria just invaded parts of lebanon and the world doesnt care, but when Israel lauches rockets….
July 9th, 2007 at 11:53 pmLiberals, progressives, democrats, traitors, listen up? We are at war! Get over it! It’s happened! We’re there! Forget under what pretense? What do you want our government to do? Pull out? Complete surrender? If we pull out, which I don’t believe we will do, how will you respond when Iran, Hezzbolah, and Hamas take over the Middle East and control the world’s oil flow? How will you democrats explain to the American people why we are spending $10 a gallon of gas? No you say this will never happen? The Arabs need the money? You’re correct! The Sheiks and Princes who are in power want all the wealth that goes along with controlling the flow of oil. The radical muslims on the other hand don’t care about wealth, they only want destruction of the west and what better way than controlling the one thing that makes everything work, OIL! I pray you people on the left finally wake up and understand what is at stake here otherwise the left and right in this country will become more than just verbal enemies!
July 9th, 2007 at 11:53 pmAnyone else listen to Randi Rhodes today? She played a number of new tunes by Melissa Etheridge on a new album coming out in September. I totally starting bawling on the last one.. Melissa gave her an advanced copy as a gift. This album will be huge. It is really good. There are songs that go straight to the heart (and gut) having to do with people waking up to what is happening right now! It is a ‘wake up and do somethig’ album. I will be in line to buy my copy. I will probably buy copies for my kids as well..
July 9th, 2007 at 11:54 pmAnon
Israel is a made up country.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:56 pmmichael > the only thing you said that is true in your post 208 is that Iraq occupation is about the OIL.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:57 pm“People on here ridicule joe lieberman with “I-israel†because he is jewish.”
I don’t think it is because Lieberman is Jewish as much as he is pushing Israel’s political agenda which is not what this country wants. I don’t really understand what power Israel has over the policies of this country.. I guess I have a lot more reading to do.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:57 pmIts about time for another round of BUSH LIED us into War
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998-Truth!
This was a quote from President Clinton during a presentation at the Pentagon defending a decision to conduct military strikes against Iraq.
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998-Truth!
Bill Clinton went to the Pentagon on this occasion to be briefed by top military officials about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction.
His remarks followed that briefing.
“Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998-Truth!
This is a quote from Albright during an appearance at Ohio State University by Albright, who was Secretary of State for Bill Clinton.
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998-Truth!
This was at the same Ohio State University appearance as Madeline Albright.
“We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998-Truth!
According to the U.S. Senate website, the text of this letter was signed by several Senators, both Democrat and Republican, including Senator John McCain and Joseph Lieberman.
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998-Truth!
The text of this statement by Nancy Pelosi is posted on her congressional website.
“Hussein has .. chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999-Truth!
This was from an appearance Albright made in Chicago.
She was addressing the embargo of Iraq that was in effect at the time and criticism that it may have prevented needed medical supplies from getting into the country. Albright said, “There has never been an embargo against food and medicine. It’s just that Hussein has just not chosen to spend his money on that. Instead, he has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction, and palaces for his cronies.”
“There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue a pace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001Truth!
The only letter with this quote from December 5, 2001 that we could find did not include the participation of Senator Bob Graham, but it was signed nine other senators including Democrat Joe Lieberman.
It urged President Bush to take quicker action against Iraq.
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002-Truth!
These were remarks from Senator Levin to a Senate committee on that date.
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002-Truth!
This and the quote below was part of prepared remarks for a speech in San Francisco to The Commonwealth Club.
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002-Truth!
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002-Truth!
Part of a speech he gave at Johns Hopkins.
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998.
We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002-Truth!
On the floor of the Senate during debate over the resolution that would authorize using force against Iraq.
He was urging caution about going to war and commented that even though there was confidence about the weapons in Iraq, there had not been the need to take military action for a number of years and he asked why there would be the need at that point.
“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force– if necessary– to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002-Truth!
Senator Kerry’s comments were made to the Senate as part of the same debate over the resolution to use force against Saddam Hussein.
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated
the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002-Truth!
Senator Rockefeller’s statements were a part of the debate over using force against Saddam Hussein.
“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002-Truth!
Senator Waxman’s contribution to the Senate debate over going to war.
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002-Truth!
Senator Clinton acknowledged the threat of Saddam Hussein but said she did not feel that using force at that time was a good option.
“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime He presents a
July 9th, 2007 at 11:57 pmparticularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.23.2003-Truth!
In a speech to Georgetown University.
at stake, michael? you slobbering dipsh*t. your voice is “at stake.”
you had your day, mike. you blew it. fade away….
for the love of god, mike. fade away…
July 9th, 2007 at 11:58 pmHow will you democrats explain to the American people why we are spending $10 a gallon of gas?
Because we didn’t bother to develop alternative sources of energy.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:58 pmAnd by this ‘country’, I don’t mean the government or the politicians involved, I mean the PEOPLE of this country – which makes up the country.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:58 pm“People on here ridicule joe lieberman with “I-israel†because he is jewish.”
Comment by Anonymous — July 9, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
No, people on here ridicule Joe Lieberman with “I-Israel” because he serves his constituents there better than he serves his constituents here. Stop beating the Anti-Semitism drum here, you’re wasting your time.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:59 pm“I will be in line to buy my copy. I will probably buy copies for my kids as well..
Comment by JG — July 9, 2007″
I’m in awe!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:02 am“michael > the only thing you said that is true in your post 208 is that Iraq occupation is about the OIL.
Comment by Jay Randal — July 9, 2007″
Partially, it’s about the FREE flow of oil!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:03 am207. Comment by Anonymous
go back and read my post. there are a lot of Jewish congressmen and senators that are not attacked the same way.
No-one should use the slurs that Mr.P is prone to using. it is vile and ignorant.
However, that doesn’t mean the the Ultra-Rightwing Policies of Israel toward Palistine and Iran aren’t wrong.
they just are. Lots of Israelis feel the same way I do. Millions, in fact.
And there you go with the same type of argument as these trolls here use about Bill Clinton. If Syria does it, then Israel can?
Do you hear that? Syria? you justify the behavior of Israel by comparing it to the a sworn enemy?
And the Palistinians are not Syria. They are oppressed people, living in under an Apartiedesque rule.
So, yeah, people get a bit angry when they voice a little displeasure with the policies and someone comes back with AntiSemite.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:03 amStop beating the Anti-Semitism drum here, you’re wasting your time.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
You did it in one sentance. One! i need to read more.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:04 am“the only thing you said that is true in your post 208 is that Iraq occupation is about the OIL.
Comment by Jay Randal — July 9, 2007″
The only thing I said is true is about oil? Do you disagree that Iran, Hezzbolah, and Hamas want to control the flow of oil to the West and Israel?
July 10th, 2007 at 12:05 amNobody except Liebertraitor can argue that the troops need a break. Extended deployments, coerced reenlistments, etc.
I say call BushCo on its courage and “patriotismâ€.
Either bring the troops home or reinstate the draft.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:06 am“I guess I have a lot more reading to do.
Comment by JG — July 9, 2007″
You sure do, child!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:07 amWell, Joe said it best, actually: “Give the American soldiers a break”… Thanks, Joe, for the great slogan.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:07 am“I will be in line to buy my copy. I will probably buy copies for my kids as well.. – Comment by JG — July 9, 2007″
I’m in awe! – Comment by michael
My kids are all adults. They will appreciate it. They all care what happens to this country and their futures (at least 3 out of 4 – one is mentally disabled but loves good music).
July 10th, 2007 at 12:10 am“for the love of god, mike. fade away…
Comment by alp3 — July 9, 2007″
Is this your way of debating intelligently or don’t you know the meaning of the word intelligently? Never mind, I know the answer!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:10 am“I guess I have a lot more reading to do.
Comment by JG — July 9, 2007″
You sure do, child!
Comment by michael
I said that, dimwit
July 10th, 2007 at 12:10 amDo you disagree that Iran, Hezzbolah, and Hamas want to control the flow of oil to the West and Israel?
Comment by michael — July 10, 2007 @ 12:05 am
Do you disagree that your icon, chimpy… and his daddy shooter… want to control the flow of oil to the West and Israel?
July 10th, 2007 at 12:11 amSo the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …â€
Comment by FDR
Again, are these the same WMDs that Bush’s father, along / Rummy and cheney, gave Saddam? Seems like it’s worth looking into.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:11 ami disagree with you, mike. everything about you is wrong. the biggest
mistake made was giving total dumbfukcs like yourself a legitimate voice.
for that… i will always hold a bit of a grudge against the “liberals.”
go phone in on one of the many am radio talk shows out there.
get with the program, or get lost, schlep.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:11 amComment by willyloman — July 10, 2007 @ 12:04 am
“Brevity is the soul of wit.”
July 10th, 2007 at 12:12 amyou’re still a dimwit
July 10th, 2007 at 12:12 am“Because we didn’t bother to develop alternative sources of energy.
Comment by Egreggious — July 9, 2007″
Why? What would you do? Why did you environmentalists stop us from drilling and building more refineries until we found another source? Your stupid green policies have put us in this mess!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:13 amComment by Jane E. Schneider
trudat, trudat
July 10th, 2007 at 12:13 amComment by willyloman — July 10, 2007 @ 12:10 am
(Sshh…you and JG both said it — but you’re right, he is a dimwit.)
July 10th, 2007 at 12:14 amAgain, are these the same WMDs that Bush’s father, along / Rummy and cheney, gave Saddam? Seems like it’s worth looking into.
Comment by The republic of Stupidity
I hear Canada has them now.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:14 am“Either bring the troops home or reinstate the draft.
Comment by Mycelium — July 10, 2007″
How old are you?
July 10th, 2007 at 12:15 am(Sshh…you and JG both said it — but you’re right, he is a dimwit.)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Naaahhh, just dim.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:15 amYour stupid green policies have put us in this mess!
Our ‘green” policies out us in Iraq? Global Warming caused Iraq?
Oh my God…It’s Al Gore’s fault!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:16 amJoe Lieberman thinks Iran should be bombed in the interest of the US, and I take him at his word, although i disagree. Israel has a humongous military and could bomb the hell out of Iran if they wanted to…they don’t need the US to do it for them. So STOP saying “I-Israel,” because it has a fine ring of masked antisemitism….criticise POLICY all you want, lay off of personal attacks on JOE.
Comment by willyloman — July 10, 2007 @ 12:03 am
July 10th, 2007 at 12:16 amAgain, Im not talking about criticising policy. Criticise it all you want. Just remember how many people are killed, tortured, etc in the surrounding mid-east countries with dictators in power before you call Israel an apartheid state.
How old are you?
Comment by michael
Oh cool, michael’s new debate topic!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amSo the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …â€
Comment by FDR
Exactly. Saddam acted like a crazy despot, so we took him out. Now we have to clean up the mess.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amYeah, why do you anti-semites always say Joe Lieberman (I-israel)?
That seems insensitive to me.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:19 am“Do you disagree that your icon, chimpy… and his daddy shooter… want to control the flow of oil to the West and Israel?
Comment by Pat — July 10, 2007″
Of course I do stupid! Why didn’t George 1 do it? Because that is not our intention! If the muslim world wants to live like animals in the 10th century, let them. But if they want to interrupt the flow of oil to us in the west who want to live live human beings, nuke them!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:20 amWow! I just watched Olberman interview Rajiv Chandrasekaran (author of “Imperial Life in the Emerald City”). What weird timing beings I just recommended that book.. It was an interview with Rajiv responding to the fact that Iraq has not met a SINGLE benchmark in the latest news release. Interesting interview.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:20 am“Either bring the troops home or reinstate the draft.
Comment by Mycelium — July 10, 2007″
How old are you?
Comment by michael — July 10, 2007 @ 12:15 am
Look out, mycelium, I think he’s ‘interested’ in you, and wants to make sure you’re over the age of consent. Next he’s going to ask “What’s your sign?”
July 10th, 2007 at 12:22 amBut if they want to interrupt the flow of oil to us in the west who want to live live human beings, nuke them!
…just fukcin’ go away, mike. you too prez. good god you suck.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:24 am“If the muslim world wants to live like animals in the 10th century, let them. But if they want to interrupt the flow of oil to us in the west who want to live live human beings, nuke them!”
Comment by michael — July 10, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Now I see why his name links to Ann Coulter’s website. “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.” Sounds pretty similar, eh?
July 10th, 2007 at 12:24 am“Again, are these the same WMDs that Bush’s father, along / Rummy and cheney, gave Saddam? Seems like it’s worth looking into.
Comment by The republic of Stupidity — July 10, 2007″
Like a true liberal you are dealing with what happened in the past to shape current policy! The world changes. enemies become friends, friends become enemies! Start looking out for what is best for you and your family in this always changing political world. It’s not black and white. Start thinking about what is best for the security of the West? You liberals are asleep at the wheel!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:25 amOK Michael…your poignant posts have convinced me to abandon my anti-war stance and join the righties.
The US has to “get†Iran and any other towel-head “hadji†em-effen country whom hates us for our freedom. Lets bomb all into the stone age. But it’s going to take ground troops too and we don’t have enough of them. Ring in the draft!
BTW- my age is irrelevant.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:26 amI’d like to see Senator Webb tear this little weiner apart on the Senate floor.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:26 am““We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.†Sounds pretty similar, eh?
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 10, 2007″
Yes, if their intentions are to do what I posted then to do any less would be traitorous! I know, I know, we need to negotiate. How sad and weak you socialists are!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:28 amYou liberals are asleep at the wheel!
Comment by michael — July 10, 2007 @ 12:25 am
well, for starters, try being a tad more intersesting… you tired old slogan.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:29 am“…just fukcin’ go away, mike. you too prez. good god you suck.
Comment by alp3 — July 10, 2007″
Mommy, daddy, help you construct that childish statement?
July 10th, 2007 at 12:30 amKyle > lol we do not want to see any Senator’s weiner exposed in the well of the Senate. That might cause an orgy to take place.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:32 amJust remember how many people are killed, tortured, etc in the surrounding mid-east countries with dictators in power before you call Israel an apartheid state.
Comment by Anonymous
Again justifying israels actions by comparing them to dictators? Old habits huh?
if Canada had slaves, it wouldn’t justify the US having slaves.
Do you understand the concept? people are suffering and dying because Rightwingers in Power in Israel have some mythical belief in god Decreeing them a piece of land. God. All told by a book written 2400 years ago. Says they have to be in this piece of land so that the rapture can happen.
This is what happens when 21st Century WarCraft meets Dark Ages Mystisism.
And don’t sound so high and mighty about not needing the US to fight your wars. Why do you think the AIPAC is spending so much time positioning for a preemptive strike in Iran?
The UN would have Israel Sanctioned for Illegally Invading Another Country if not for the single vote that blocks it out of all the Security Council. Ours.
I would like to see how long your 9 little nukes would last if the US turned our collective backs on your Rightwing Party.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:32 amhey, mike… heh. you’re on the internets ole boy. you don’t mean, sh*t.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:33 amLike a true liberal you are dealing with what happened in the past to shape current policy! The world changes. enemies become friends, friends become enemies!
You can’t understand the present if you don’t understand the past. Even as individuals, all our pasts shape our present and who we are. Everything we have experienced influences greatly who we are today. It is important to understand how we got here before we can know where to go from here. That is seriously lacking with this Administration. Bush is just frankly scary in how shallow and concrete he is in his thinking. I frankly beieve he is stunted in his brain development, damaged by his alcoholism, and frankly, a sociopath. He has no business being in charge of his own checkbook let alone the policies for an entire nation.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:33 amComment by willyloman — July 10, 2007 @ 12:32 am
Excellent!
July 10th, 2007 at 12:46 ami was trying to stick to one sentance, Jane. I got carried away.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:51 amComment by FDR — July 9, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
From THE STATUS OF NUCLEAR INSPECTIONS IN IRAQ ,Statement to the United Nations Security Council, New York, 27 January 2003
Mohamed ElBaradei, Director General, INTERNATIONAL ATOMIC ENERGY AGENCY
http://www.un.org/News/dh/iraq/elbaradei27jan03.htm
Inspections were working to ensure no war was necessary. Then Bush, not Saddam, ordered the inspectors to leave Iraq, and began the war on the false claim that Iraq had WMD.
And, BTW, most of those senators have confessed that they did not read the full classified briefing that contained all the caveats that downplayed events in Iraq more than the “public” version (the one that expressed everything as a virtual certainty).
Any way you look at it, Bush & Co. lied to start an unnecessary war for reasons that had nothing to do with their publicly stated ones.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:52 amAny way you look at it, Bush & Co. lied to start an unnecessary war for reasons that had nothing to do with their publicly stated ones.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
As a matter of fact, the inspectors found and removed WMDs during the 90’s when Scott Ritter was an inspector. They actually cleared up the weapons and got rid of them. The Iraq Occupation has removed none. Period.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:55 amHe has no business being in charge of his own checkbook let alone the policies for an entire nation.
Comment by JG
You’re wasting your time, JG. Soon the michael troll was ask you if daycare got early, or if you’re in the 6th grade — ya know, really “witty” stuff. He is a Master Debater, who will ask endlessly “Why? Why? Why?” Truly stunning…. :D
July 10th, 2007 at 12:55 amComment by willyloman — July 10, 2007 @ 12:32 am
No, You are wrong, and you are misusing my words. I am not justifying anything. I said put it in perspective before calling it apartheid, which it is NOT.
“Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction — out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East — is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest.”-Thomas L. Friedman, NYT
July 10th, 2007 at 12:59 amHe has no business being in charge of his own checkbook let alone the policies for an entire nation.
Comment by JG
Uh, Babs still gives him an allowance every week. He puts it in a Piggybank.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:00 amComment by willyloman — July 10, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Yes, I know. That’s in the report from the link. And by 1998, they were confident everything had been destroyed or made unusable for WMD purposes, with some minor “dual-use” materials. The pre-invasion inspections were concentrating on reports of new activities in the four years since. Every new building was inspected, and none were found to be involved in WMD production.
Simply put, Iraq was nowhere near the threat Bush & Co. made them out to be. That is simply a fact, which is why some people refuse to acknowledge it.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:01 amNext war monger dittohead you run into try this. Instead of arguing with them…agree with them. Then casually interject the fact that the troops are in desperate need of reinforcement – a draft is warranted and sorely needed. Make sure you say “god bless the troops†or “god bless Americaâ€. Funny how their views seem to change.
Wanna see Bush and Cheney go down? Reinstate the draft or convince folks it will happen if our aggression keeps up. BushCo knows a draft is needed but is too chicken $hit to do it…they KNOW what would happen.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:04 amHere’s an interesting tidbit.
NBC News and news services
July 10th, 2007 at 1:07 amUpdated: 5:26 p.m. PT July 9, 2007
WASHINGTON – A progress report on Iraq will conclude that the U.S.-backed government in Baghdad has not met any of its targets for political, economic and other reform, speeding up the Bush administration’s reckoning on what to do next, a U.S. official said Monday.
And willyloman,
You tell me what you want israel to do?
Oh by the way, all the suicide bombing in the world is from the US and Israel waging war on Muslims. Well guess what, 70 percent of muslims want strict sharia law imposed in every muslim country, and 20 percent of muslims think suicide bombing killing civillians is OK. worldpublicopinion.org.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:11 amSimply put, Iraq was nowhere near the threat Bush & Co. made them out to be. That is simply a fact, which is why some people refuse to acknowledge it.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Ritter said that Powells assertion at the UN in the “Web of Lies” speach, when he held up the vial of white powder and said that iraq had Anthax like this, was completely wrong.
Ritter said that everyone knew in the intelligence field that they couldn’t refine it to that level. It was more like sludge and that there was no way Powell didn’t know that.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:15 amSo, gee, after two, three deployments you’d think the troops would really appreciate equal time off. Most of the country knows that these guys are seriously burned out. Webb’s amendment seems like sane and humane thing to do. But Liebermann, from his wacko perspective, sees this as another form of sniping? This doesn’t even remotely make sense. How is R & R a hostile act? Can you imagine the troops raising hell about this opportunity to rest between deployments? What does this have to do with either defeat or retreat? Better to just sign ‘em up for one long four year deployment, right Joe?
July 10th, 2007 at 1:27 amOne good thing about the cons stealing the election in 2000…this bastard never was our VP. He would be as bad as Cheney.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:36 amSimply put, Iraq was nowhere near the threat Bush & Co. made them out to be. That is simply a fact, which is why some people refuse to acknowledge it.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 10, 2007 @ 1:01 am
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This doesn’t matter at all, Wayne. Saddam did not comply with UN resolutions, he acted like a lunatic, so rather than risk it, we took him out.
Plain and simple.
Your point is moot.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:43 am# 213 – Comment by FDR — July 9, 2007 @ 11:57 pm – Quoting Democrats about WMD’s in Iraq.
Despite those statements (IF FDR didn’t just pull them out of her/his a$$, which is HIGHLY LIKELY!), many of those s/he quoted voted AGAINST the invasion of Iraq.
Moral: The current corrupt, crooked president didn’t fool ALL of the people ALL of the time!
Members of the Senate who voted AGAINST the invasion (and subsequent occupation and destruction) of Iraq:
Akaka Durbin Mikulski
Bingaman Feingold Murray
Boxer Graham Reed
Byrd Inouye Sarbanes
Chafee Jeffords Stabenow
Conrad Kennedy Wellstone
Corzine Leahy Wyden
Dayton Levin
In the House, 132 Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, and 1 Republican voted AGAINST the invasion.
Despite the current corrupt, crooked administrations lies about the WMD’s, some weren’t fooled.
July 10th, 2007 at 2:02 amWhy do Lefties want to see mass genocide in the Middle East?
July 10th, 2007 at 2:15 amShut up, Joe.
July 10th, 2007 at 2:25 amSomeone please run Lieberman out of town.
July 10th, 2007 at 2:27 amHmmm, Lieberman was re-elected by the people of his state regardless of the fact that all of his Democrat cohorts bailed on him. He has stood his ground on the war on terror, and on the Iraq war. The people know what backbone is, and what backbone is not, and voted accordingly. Don’t like it? Either move to Connecticut and vote him out, or move out of Connecticut to a happier place…like New York?? (From some of the posts here, there’s probably too many Jews in New York for you as well, but at least it exposes those Anti-Semites for what they are.)
As for the person in an earlier post who made the statement that Joe Lieberman is the “whiniest” adult ever….Hmmm, have you read the whiners here?
July 10th, 2007 at 3:37 amI know I’m not saying anything that hasn’t probably been said previously in this quite long thread of comments (outside of some Rape-Public-Can’s [thanks Heterodoxy ;D] post) but Lieberman is the quintessential pansy … or do I mean patsy? meh. Both.
So, Democrats are sniping at guys like this:
http://www.miamiherald.com/569/story/163895.html
???
Yeah, that’s why he’s suing the Army. I hope with all that’s in me he wins.
July 10th, 2007 at 3:50 am…..against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Go fug yourself Sen. Droopy.
July 10th, 2007 at 4:03 amClearly Lieberman doesn’t represent the views of the American public, who have strongly turned against this Iraq war…so who could he possibly be representing??
>>Voters in three of the four countries surveyed also overwhelmingly reject the decision to invade Iraq, with only Israeli voters in favour, 59% to 34%
July 10th, 2007 at 4:09 amhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1938434,00.html
link
July 10th, 2007 at 4:11 am> Why do Lefties want to see mass genocide in the Middle East?
> Mr. President
So there are genocides and then there are mass genocides?
Why dontcha check into one of those hermetically sealed showers, man for a quick freshening-up? You would spare people the disgrace of your postings.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:14 amWhat a tool, indeed.
Requiring the President NOT to exhaust our troops is ’sniping’ at troops?
Riiiigggghhhhtttt….
July 10th, 2007 at 6:33 amI can’t believe there are such high stream people like Lieberman that spew this garbage. It makes me sick. All of you who support sending these troops back over and over again – making fathers and mothers miss most of their Children’s lives should support the DRAFT. If this was is SOOOOO IMPORTANT, then why don’t we ask all Americans to do it? Why do we cut taxes during war?
Anyone who supported Lieberman on this thread should be ashamed unless they are on their way to the recruiter’s office right now to help share the burden of defending this country.
July 10th, 2007 at 8:24 amyeah, let’s give them a break… let them have the time off that they’ve earned!
July 10th, 2007 at 8:38 am“the reason why back-stabbing Lieberman is allow to shot off his stupid mouth is because of the mainstream media.”
This is true. All LIEberman needs to do is to burp and it’s front page coverage. Wherein if Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid have something to say, unless it’s controversial (meaning it’s something the Republics can distort to make them look bad), it is never reported in the news. It’s that damn liberal media. They just love LIEberman.
July 10th, 2007 at 9:18 amShut up, joe. You only want the troops for one thing and that is your foreign agent agenda. Use them again joe. It’s what you know how to do.
July 10th, 2007 at 9:31 amLieberman is so weak. He should put some boots on and walk a soldiers mile. I bet he would spew ignorance a lot less. Take it from a vet, you need down time or you ass will go crazy. And being marched miles in 100 degree heat aint no fun. In fact its down right miserable. Add to the fact people are trying to kill you ass all the time and its enough to break a weak man like Lieberman. I know this, I am glad my service time is over, cause listening to shit like Lieberman says would drive me insane if I was over there.
July 10th, 2007 at 9:32 am“Clearly Lieberman doesn’t represent the views of the American public, who have strongly turned against this Iraq war…so who could he possibly be representing??
>>Voters in three of the four countries surveyed also overwhelmingly reject the decision to invade Iraq, with only Israeli voters in favour, 59% to 34%
Comment by Thinkng Progressively — July 10, 2007 @ 4:09 am”
Yet he was re-elected by his constituents regardless of the Democrat Surrender Monkeys turning on him. (Yeah, THOSE Democrats, the party of “tolerance and inclusion”, whom he agreed with on nearly every issue EXCEPT the Iraq war.)
Time for a reality check, folks:
Lieberman was re-elected despite his pro-Iraq war stance, which he has not wavered from, and despite his support of President Bush on this issue. So explain again exactly how he is clearly not representing the views of the American public?
Regardless, he’s not required to represent the views of the American public. Only the views of the people who elected him, the citizens of Connecticut, who re-elected him.
July 10th, 2007 at 9:33 amAIPAC / AEI / API / CEI etc wants our troops there and in Iran as well not the American people. WE MUST outlaw lobbying period in Washington.
July 10th, 2007 at 10:26 am“Time for a reality check, folks:
Lieberman was re-elected despite his pro-Iraq war stance, which he has not wavered from, and despite his support of President Bush on this issue. So explain again exactly how he is clearly not representing the views of the American public?
Regardless, he’s not required to represent the views of the American public. Only the views of the people who elected him, the citizens of Connecticut, who re-elected him.”
uh. LIEberman toned down his pro war rhetoric while campainging
July 10th, 2007 at 2:17 pmand was critical (if measured) of how the war is handled. The money and support he got from repugs combined with his outright LIEing got him elected. spew your bs elsewhere.
Joe should get the boot – he may as well be a repug as he is so reliably supports this fiasco of an occupation.
There is no surrender caucus. There is no surrender needed. There is withdrawal from occupied territory. There is retreat from invasion. But if we were to surrender, who exactly would we surrender to? Can you answer that question. When pulling out of Iraq, who would we be surrendering to?
Al Qaeda and the rest of Islam. Why do you want Hillary to send the troops back after the situation deteriorates?
July 10th, 2007 at 2:35 pmIn fact the Democrats do not have to stroke Lieberman to keep their Senate majority. Rules of organization adopted at the start of the current session would leave the Democrats in charge even if the Senate was 50-50. Maybe they want to keep one extra as the margin for error, in the event of an unexpected death or resignation?
New organization rules can be passed.
July 10th, 2007 at 2:38 pmDo human beings come any more rotten than Jerusalem Joe?
July 10th, 2007 at 3:51 pmGosh someone still give this guy a microphone to talk into. This does not look to me like an enemy that is on the run. Crap our guys fly over there and have to sit in the green zone. Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Iraq an unarmed nation? And we’re still at this. Give me a break.
July 10th, 2007 at 4:55 pm