66 percent:
The percentage of Americans who believe President Bush should not have commuted Scooter Libby’s prison sentence, according to a new Gallup poll.
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Who cares?
July 10th, 2007 at 5:34 pmYes, but will the Democrats in DC do anything about it?
July 10th, 2007 at 5:38 pmBush shot himself in the foot — I knew it!!
This is the King’s “Saturday Night Massacre.”
July 10th, 2007 at 5:38 pmThe flood gates have opened.
Obviously, 85% percent of those surveyed. Duhhhh.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:40 pm#1
I too, would like to know, who cares?
July 10th, 2007 at 5:40 pmWho cares?
Comment by Ringo — July 10, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Obviously you do, else you would not have spent moments of your life which you can never regain responding to this article.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:40 pmFull Pardon… come on Bush, do the right thing.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:41 pmMe. If we’re going to be spending 25K a year incarcerating people, it’d might as well be these hacks.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:42 pmLike Preznit NumbNuts cares what people thinks of him or his cronies?
July 10th, 2007 at 5:42 pmI too, would like to know, who cares?
Any GOP candidate in 2008, dumbass. Bush is not only making his own name radioactive: he’s destroying the GOP brand. The party of law & order? Ehhh, not so much.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:43 pmI care, he effectively pardoned someone for perjury who not only worked for the white house but it’s quite possible he took orders from the white house to lie and is now off the hook for it.
There’s only one time where a president got close to doing what he just did and we all know what happened to him.
He should have been smart and kept his nose out of it till his last day. Just like Clinton did, just like they all have.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:44 pmBut according to Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC: “They’re going to try to really tamp this down and appeal to the polling which indicates that most people think, in fact, that [Libby] should be pardoned. Scooter Libby should be pardoned.”
See!!! Proof positive that TP is wrong. Adrea Mitchell knows what real American’s are thinking, she even talks about polling…….who cares if she doesn’t cite any actual poll.. She say’s what I want to hear and that’s all that matters! Stupid libs. Victory for Libby!!
July 10th, 2007 at 5:45 pmThese are what 1000 people that were polled said they wanted, not of all Americans. I don’t care about this poll.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:45 pmBush says he’s gettin’ worried about how history will judge him.
Question for US history buffs: did any other President lose two wars?
July 10th, 2007 at 5:46 pmI just want Bush to pull the troops back so his approval rating will go to 70%.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:48 pmAnother question for the trolls:
Where in the world is Osama bin Laden?
July 10th, 2007 at 5:49 pmFrom the House Judiciary calendar:
Wednesday 07/11/2007 - 12:00 PM
2141 Rayburn House Office Building
Full Committee
Hearing on: The Use and Misuse of Presidential Clemency Power for Executive Branch Officials
By Direction of the Chairman
They will also be broadcasting it online.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:49 pmWhy don’t the Democrats “do” anything about it? As unsavory as it is, Bush can commute or pardon anybody he wants to (so could Clinton, and so can any president). UNLESS — it’s part of a quid pro quo arrangement, or to cover up illegal activity.
I would like to see an investigation into the matter. Because Libby was an exec branch staffer (despite what Cheney claims his “branch” is), it’s entirely possible that Bush could personally gain something from the deal (like Libby’s silence).
Clinton’s last-minute pardons were reviewed extensively by Congress, in a process lasting several months. Surely Libby’s commutation warrants the same treatment.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:50 pmJustice is the loser when politics is more important than The Law. It takes a genuine Hypocrit to decide that a relatively minimal sentence is excessive while at the same time holding persons for years without charges.
Bush has no respect for The Law.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:51 pmWhich group sang: Tank, Tank, Tank The Presidency?? 66% and dropping like the titanic!
July 10th, 2007 at 5:52 pmOr was it “sink the bismark”??
July 10th, 2007 at 5:52 pmMiss Molly - Every american with a pulse knows that Bush’s pardon was a “quid pro quo” which is highly illegal. He will be impeached for it someday soon. Of this I am certain.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:53 pmNow all we have to do is get the Dems to grow some cajones and act on this obvious and capricious “quid pro quo”.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmToo many Americans are buying the bull of the flunky reports.
Procedure: Read their article, vote in their poll afterwards. Suck em’ in.
The media is foolishly making up the minds of 66% of Americans. The other 34% have the wit to see through their propaganda.
The President has his powers. He exercised them properly. It’s Done deal.
PARDON!
July 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmFull Pardon… come on Bush, do the right thing.
Comment by Mr. President
Nope. Not gonna happen. At least not until shrubya is walking out the WH door in jan 09. There was a political reason Bush did not pardon Libby. Can you guess why Bush didn’t outright pardon libby? If you are a student of history and certainly current events, you would be able to figure out why. Think about it. Think about reasons which are more favorable to Bush and shooter - not the american public and you will discover the answer.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:55 pmTP carried the story and I recall that it said that bush impulsively decided on the commutation of the sentence and failed to check with his lawyers about the sensibility in doing so or the legality of so doing. Beep! It’s over, Mr. President! This mistake you will not squirm yourself out of!
Drunk on the intoxicating fumes of his own perceived power, he acted impulsively finally here and broke a cardinal, constitutional rule for which he is going to pay dearly…..with his office….and the loss of it.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:55 pmHi Tom: I’ve just realized that we also have the “Scooter and Shooter Show” - and not just some routine dog ‘n pony show. Actually, comparing these scumbags to animals is degrading to the animals involved.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:57 pm#11 Actually he learned it at his daddy’s knee - Bush I pardoned 5 Iran-Contra figures, including Weinberger, so no one would ever know what happened or how much Poppy knew. That’s one of the reasons Bush II extended the length of time documents can be kept classified - he was protectin’ his daddy.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:58 pmJust goes to show this airhead that he shouldn’t ever formulate a thought in that compromised brain of his….because it is sure to lead him astray. This time he should have consulted the legal authorities. He’s in a real fix here and the noose is tighening. Maybe it will be time for that much-needed vacation in August. Perhaps he will fail to return to office, just like Nixon.
July 10th, 2007 at 5:59 pmPowkat: Everyone knows that DaddyBush (41) is the “small man behind the curtain at Oz”. He has been destroying this country since 1963 in orchestrating JFK’s death as head of the CIA, was around town with his Carlyle buddies on 9/10 (strange coincidence, isn’t it?) and continues to orchestrate his nazi war machine today.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:01 pmBy next week, Bush’s numbers will be so horrendous that they’ll be embarrassed to air them on the MSM.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:02 pmThe problem I have is when Bush pulls the troops back, the media is still going to constantly report the killings and the bombings in Iraq even if our troops aren’t there to hurt Bush.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:02 pmhttp://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/8626
another good read!
July 10th, 2007 at 6:03 pm66% didn’t really mean it when they said they were against any intervention in Skeeter’s sentence.
Our trolls, the 6%ers hoping for a full pardon assure us that the poll is skewwwwwwed.
Well how can you argue with 6% bottom feeder, knuckles dragging on the floor, blankie in tow? Better not to argue at all.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:04 pm“Scooter and Shooter Show†- and not just some routine dog ‘n pony show. Actually, comparing these scumbags to animals is degrading to the animals involved.
Comment by veritas
I believe it’s a spinoff of the old “Shooter and Shootee Show”.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:06 pmVeritas - Yep - between Poppy’s Saudi connection and his days at the CIA and the Carlyle Group he is indeed. They don’t call it the Bush Crime Family for nothing.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:07 pmBush’s “Government of THE PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, and for THE PEOPLE” fails yet again.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:11 pmThe President has his powers. He exercised them properly. It’s Done deal.
PARDON!
Comment by CT_V1 — July 10, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
I notice you claim that the President used his powers “properly” but then you call for a full pardon.
Either you think the President SHOULD have issued a full pardon for lying to the FBI and a Grand Jury and therefore didn’t use his powers quite “properly” or you are calling for a full pardon for lying to the FBI and Grand Jury that you believe is not legitimate.
Which is it?
By the way, CT_V1, I support a full pardon at this point too. If Libby were pardoned, he could be called to testify on those matters without access to the Fifth Amendment protection. That hearing should be on Pay-per-View!
July 10th, 2007 at 6:12 pmVeritas - Yep - between Poppy’s Saudi connection and his days at the CIA and the Carlyle Group he is indeed. They don’t call it the Bush Crime Family for nothing.
Comment by Powkat
Anecdotally you can tell that it all started with Poppy’s daddy doing business with Adolph Hitler. On their first meeting grandpappy probably got a copy of Mein Kampf, first edition, and it’s the most treasured “family heirloom”. And the Bush Crime Family has been using it as an instruction manual ever since.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:12 pmBush’s “Government of THE PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, and for THE PEOPLE†fails yet again.
Comment by Republicans Can’t Govern — July 10, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Bush, “What means dis peeples, we don’t care bout no stinkin’ peeples!”
July 10th, 2007 at 6:13 pmWell how can you argue with 6% bottom feeder, knuckles dragging on the floor, blankie in tow? Better not to argue at all.
Comment by shane — July 10, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
Shane, I’m reminded of the old admonition about wrestling with a pig. It just gets you dirty and annoys the pig.
Substitute “troll” for “pig” — come to think of it, that’s redundant…
July 10th, 2007 at 6:15 pmWho cares? Well, who was whining for weeks that Fitzgerald had no case and that the jury would never convict; when they jury convicted they whined that the sentence was ourtrageously harsh, even though it fell within guidelines; and now that the sentence has been commuted, who’s whining about Libby’s need for a full pardon? Come on, Mr Pee, you care! Give crooks & liars a free pass is about all you do care about.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:25 pm#14
Comment by Zooey — July 10, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Probably dead. Haven’t heard from hime in a while.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:35 pmProbably dead. Haven’t heard from hime in a while.
Comment by Tracy
Bush could get his numbers way up if he produced OBL’s corpse, but he won’t even do that — because he can’t.
July 10th, 2007 at 6:46 pmIf Libby were pardoned, he could be called to testify on those matters without access to the Fifth Amendment protection. That hearing should be on Pay-per-View!
Comment by spit take — July 10, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
Libby wasn’t pardoned specifically for the reason of keeping away from testimony. Dumbya will save that move for his last day in office. Fred Fielding is no dummy and he honed his skills during the Nixon mess. You can be sure he had his fingers in this deal.
July 10th, 2007 at 7:09 pm#41
Comment by Zooey — July 10, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
If there is nothing left then that pretty impossible to do.
July 10th, 2007 at 7:32 pmLincoln said it best. You cannot fool all of the people all of the time. America, what a country!
July 10th, 2007 at 7:34 pmcheck out slick willys pardons
http://www.usdoj.gov/ pardon/ clintonpardon_grants.htm
July 10th, 2007 at 7:51 pmFull Pardon for this innocent scapegoat Libby
July 10th, 2007 at 7:52 pmDo the right thing President Bush!
PARDONS GRANTED BY PRESIDENT CLINTON
NAME DISTRICT SENTENCED OFFENSE
July 10th, 2007 at 7:53 pmDavid Phillip Aronsohn D. Minn. 1961 Failure to pay special occupational tax on wagering, 26 U.S.C. § 7203
Wanda Kaye Bain-Prentice D. Ariz. 1982 Mail fraud, 18 U.S.C. § 1341
Antonio Barucco U. S. Army general court-martial 1945 Desertion in violation of the 58th Article of War
Kristine Margo Beck D. Idaho 1981 Bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 656
David Christopher Billmaier D. New Mex. 1980 Possession with intent to distribute amphetamines, 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1)
Terry Lee Brown E. D. Ky. 1962 Interstate transportation of a stolen motor vehicle, 18 U.S.C. § 2312
Joe Carl Bruton N. D. Tex. 1979 Conspiracy to commit mail fraud, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Nolan Lynn DeMarce W. D. Wis. 1983 Making false statements to obtain bank loans, 18 U.S.C. § 1014
Jimmy C. Dick N. D. Calif. 1976 Conspiracy to manufacture counterfeit Federal Reserve Notes, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Edward Eugene Dishman W. D. Okla. 1983 Conspiracy to defraud the United States and Oklahoma counties, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Brenda Kay Engle S. D. Ind. 1983 Conspiracy to commit theft from interstate shipment, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Mary Theresa Fajer D. Oregon 1980 Conspiracy to commit bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2 and 371
Albert James Forte D. Dist. Col. 1973 Making and subscribing false and fraudulent income tax return, 26 U.S.C. § 7206(1)
Fendley Lee Frazier S. D. Ala. 1965 Interstate transportation of a stolen motor vehicle, 18 U.S.C. § 2312
Robert Linward Freeland, Jr. N. D. Ind. 1983 Forcible rescue of seized property, 26 U.S.C. § 7212(b)
Ralph Leon Furst S. D. Calif. 1966 Embezzlement of United ….
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And only 19% wanted him to get the commuted sentence or a pardon. That’s less that the 28% who think that Bush is a good president. Very interesting. There are a lot of Republicans who either think Bush did the wrong thing or don’t have an opinion on the matter.
And Ringo, we care. We don’t want to see our country and our constitution flushed down the toilet. That is what the Bush Crime Family is doing to our country. If it doesn’t bother you, I feel very sorry for you.
July 10th, 2007 at 8:01 pm“The media is foolishly making up the minds of 66% of Americans. The other 34% have the wit to see through their propaganda.
The President has his powers. He exercised them properly. It’s Done deal. PARDON! Comment by CT_V1″
Apparently you didn’t read the article. I often wonder if you asshats actually have the ability to read. If you had read it, and you know how to add two numbers together, you will see that only 19% (that’s 13 + 6) think that Libby should have had clemency or a pardon.
That’s less that the 28%ers.
Sorry, you lose and will continue to lose.
July 10th, 2007 at 8:06 pm“PARDONS GRANTED BY PRESIDENT CLINTON
Flacid”
So……. Were any of those pardons someone who worked for Clinton who had knowledge that could put Clinton in jail or get him impeached?
July 10th, 2007 at 8:08 pm…you will see that only 19% (that’s 13 + 6) think that Libby should have had clemency or a pardon.
And don’t forget that some think pardoning Scooter would have been a good thing so that he could not claim Fifth Amendment privileges when testifying before Congress.
July 10th, 2007 at 8:14 pmWhy does Flaccid always do that? Does he think it actually makes some point for him?
Does he think that we believe Clinton never pardoned anybody?
Does he ever say what’s wrong with any of the pardons in the lists he cuts-and-pastes?
Very odd behavior. All of the trolls lately, very odd behavior. Is there a full moon coming up or something?
July 10th, 2007 at 8:16 pmFlaco,
Who on that list was pardoned while Ken Starr was still investigating Whitewater?
Who on that list was pardoned or had their sentence commuted by the President without having to spend a day in jail?
Who on that list had their sentence commuted while the President still had a year and a half to go in office?
July 10th, 2007 at 8:23 pmIf there is nothing left then that pretty impossible to do.
Comment by Tracy — July 10, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
You have an excuse for everything.
July 10th, 2007 at 8:30 pmW should listen to the Chinese if he really wanted to silence Libby - http://www.denverpost.com/ci_6340695?source=rss
July 10th, 2007 at 9:23 pmHe merely chose the wrong way in commuting the sentence.
I was thrilled when Bush commuted the sentence of Libby. I really don’t believe there are only 13% of us who agree with that. These polls only actually poll 1000 people. That is hardly 300,000,000 as would be needed.
July 10th, 2007 at 10:59 pmI remember when the President pardoned his brother for all his foul deeds.
Damn that President Bush, errrr…..Clinton!
July 10th, 2007 at 11:22 pm56:
July 10th, 2007 at 11:27 pmWhat happens to your involuntary nervous system when your Clinton thoughts come on? Just curious
75 percent: The number of Americans who thought the Marc Rich pardon was ‘justice denied’.
Libby has a ways to go!
July 11th, 2007 at 12:26 amNon issue, since it’s already a done deal. Hope no-one paid too much money for this poll.
July 11th, 2007 at 1:10 amYAWN!
July 11th, 2007 at 1:13 amOld News
Next crisis
Libby is a convicted felon who deserves to serve his punishment for 30 months. The commutation posed a conflict of interest for this president. He commuted Libby’s sentence to save himself and Cheney from possible prosecution. Libby was one of 7 people who outed a covert CIA agent to get back at her husband a vocal critic of the war who challenged the president’s false assertion that Saddam tried to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger. Wilson was right because 16 words were later remove from Bush’s State of Union address in the Congressional record. They were removed because Bush knew he was lying. Clinton never pardoned or commuted the sentence of anyone who could have incriminated him if they had gone to jail.
July 11th, 2007 at 3:01 amComment by Katie
You have no case, Kootie. STFU.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:54 amre: #45
July 11th, 2007 at 9:04 amIt always amuses me that the president’s supporters always think that two wrongs make a right.
#54
Comment by Zooey — July 10, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Just an observation based on current state of affairs in Afghanistan.
July 11th, 2007 at 9:40 am