Comments on: REPORT: Six Months Later, Time’s Up For Escalation Proponents http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:39:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: daGUY http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3927302 daGUY Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:00:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3927302 Where's Tom Friedman? He's been telling us to wait "6 months" for the past 5 years. Where’s Tom Friedman? He’s been telling us to wait “6 months” for the past 5 years.

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3926263 Probus Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:21:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3926263 The poorly thought out surge has failed despite the best efforts of our troops. Our troops cannot succeed if the policy is a failure. Bush had 6 months to get it right. He has failed in this. Now he must listen to the American people and set a date to bring our troops home from a civil war we can't win. This is not our war to fight. The Shiias and Sunnis are fighting and our troops are caught in the middle of it. American people are not prepared to let even one more American soldier die from an IED. We don't want even one more soldier to come home from a traumatic brain injury. The war has been wrong from the beginning. The Iraq war has nothing to do with 9-11 or al Qaeda. Bush must get the policy right. He must change course and set a date to bring our troops home. The poorly thought out surge has failed despite the best efforts of our troops. Our troops cannot succeed if the policy is a failure. Bush had 6 months to get it right. He has failed in this. Now he must listen to the American people and set a date to bring our troops home from a civil war we can’t win. This is not our war to fight. The Shiias and Sunnis are fighting and our troops are caught in the middle of it. American people are not prepared to let even one more American soldier die from an IED. We don’t want even one more soldier to come home from a traumatic brain injury. The war has been wrong from the beginning. The Iraq war has nothing to do with 9-11 or al Qaeda. Bush must get the policy right. He must change course and set a date to bring our troops home.

]]> By: cal1942 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3926260 cal1942 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:06:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3926260 They'll keep it going with another Friedman here another Friedman there until 01/20/2009. If a Democrat is elected President in 2008, takes office and begins a withdrawal, the Republicans will claim that the Democrats lost the war. They'll say that it all would have worked out if the Democrats had stayed for just one more Friedman. Bush and company have determined their strategy. It's called dolchstosse. They’ll keep it going with another Friedman here another Friedman there until 01/20/2009.

If a Democrat is elected President in 2008, takes office and begins a withdrawal, the Republicans will claim that the Democrats lost the war. They’ll say that it all would have worked out if the Democrats had stayed for just one more Friedman.

Bush and company have determined their strategy. It’s called dolchstosse.

]]> By: TC-14 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3926206 TC-14 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:25:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3926206 Damn, look at the photo. I swear the man has chimp eyes. Damn, look at the photo. I swear the man has chimp eyes.

]]> By: stoo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925991 stoo Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:33:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925991 Ummmmm ... the Condoleeza quote is saying the exact opposite of what you think it is saying. Ummmmm … the Condoleeza quote is saying the exact opposite of what you think it is saying.

]]> By: DitchMitchKY http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925845 DitchMitchKY Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:45:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925845 Six months ago tonight, we were out on the streets protesting Bush's "surge." It was bullshit and everybody knew it. Today, Tony Snow announced we're at a "new starting line" at the "beginning of the beginning of the surge." <strong>This is bullshit and everyone knows it.</strong> Six months ago tonight, we were out on the streets protesting Bush’s “surge.” It was bullshit and everybody knew it.

Today, Tony Snow announced we’re at a “new starting line” at the “beginning of the beginning of the surge.”

This is bullshit and everyone knows it.

]]> By: barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925828 barfly Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:38:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925828 Zo TPers Resident drunk Comment by Flaco Them's fightin' words. I am TP's resident drunk, and don't you ever forget it! Zo TPers Resident drunk

Comment by Flaco

Them’s fightin’ words.

I am TP’s resident drunk, and don’t you ever forget it!

]]> By: Samsara http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925714 Samsara Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:40:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925714 Krauthammer was against the surge from the beginning. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2007/01/19/maliki_doesnt_deserve_a_surge?page=full&trackbacks=true He just spouts this stuff to keep his gig on Fox. Are Aile's 30 pieces of silver really worth it Dr. Krauthammer? Krauthammer was against the surge from the beginning.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2007/01/19/maliki_doesnt_deserve_a_surge?page=full&trackbacks=true

He just spouts this stuff to keep his gig on Fox.

Are Aile’s 30 pieces of silver really worth it Dr. Krauthammer?

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925693 Zooey Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:32:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925693 <em>Why… I never been so insulted in my life! How dare you!? Me? Shallow? Comment by Mr. President </em> More insulting that the time I called you a f*ckwit? :D Yeah, you. Shallow. You don't seem all that thoughtful, which seems like something valuable for someone who wants to write philosophy articles. Why… I never been so insulted in my life!
How dare you!?
Me?
Shallow?
Comment by Mr. President

More insulting that the time I called you a f*ckwit? :D

Yeah, you. Shallow. You don’t seem all that thoughtful, which seems like something valuable for someone who wants to write philosophy articles.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925623 katy Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:57:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925623 you're that proud of it, eh? just as i thought... you’re that proud of it, eh?
just as i thought…

]]> By: craig http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925617 craig Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:56:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925617 They didn't say WHICH six months. They meant June through November, 2025. They didn’t say WHICH six months. They meant June through November, 2025.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925579 Mr. President Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:45:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925579 That’s very interesting, Mr President, because you seem to be an extremely shallow person. Do you behave in all areas of your life the way you behave here? If so, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Comment by Zooey — July 10, 2007 @ 8:33 pm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why... I never been so insulted in my life! How dare you!? Me? Shallow? That’s very interesting, Mr President, because you seem to be an extremely shallow person.
Do you behave in all areas of your life the way you behave here? If so, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
Comment by Zooey — July 10, 2007 @ 8:33 pm

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Why… I never been so insulted in my life!

How dare you!?

Me?

Shallow?

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925547 katy Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:36:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925547 wow... philosophy, huh... whoddathunkit... maybe a clue to be found here: mr.pee - what college are you attending now? wow… philosophy, huh… whoddathunkit…

maybe a clue to be found here:

mr.pee – what college are you attending now?

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925534 Zooey Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:34:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925534 <em>CNN says: State Dept cannot get enough diplomats to volunteer for Iraq. Soon some may be ordered to the Green Zone. Comment by Keith G — July 10, 2007 @ 8:03 pm</em> Oy, diplomats who don't want to be there -- that'll work. Not. CNN says: State Dept cannot get enough diplomats to volunteer for Iraq. Soon some may be ordered to the Green Zone.
Comment by Keith G — July 10, 2007 @ 8:03 pm

Oy, diplomats who don’t want to be there — that’ll work.

Not.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925530 Zooey Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:33:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925530 <em>Then I will write articles in Ancient Philosophy journals so that other people interested in ancient philosophy can read them and tell me that I am wrong, and vice versa. Comment by Mr. President — July 10, 2007 @ 7:05 pm</em> That's very interesting, Mr President, because you seem to be an extremely shallow person. Do you behave in all areas of your life the way you behave here? If so, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Then I will write articles in Ancient Philosophy journals so that other people interested in ancient philosophy can read them and tell me that I am wrong, and vice versa.
Comment by Mr. President — July 10, 2007 @ 7:05 pm

That’s very interesting, Mr President, because you seem to be an extremely shallow person.

Do you behave in all areas of your life the way you behave here? If so, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

]]> By: Richard Cowen http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925482 Richard Cowen Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:16:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925482 Maybe a bit OT but absolutely related: From an article in the New York Times reporting on Bush's speech today: Critics of the war should give Gen. David H. Petraeus, the American commander in Iraq, “a chance to come back and <strong>tell us whether his strategy’s working</strong>, and then we can work together on a way forward,” Sounds to me like they are once again setting up the military to be the fall guy. Since when is it "his" (Petraues) strategy? I thought Bush was the decider??? Maybe a bit OT but absolutely related:

From an article in the New York Times reporting on Bush’s speech today:

Critics of the war should give Gen. David H. Petraeus, the American commander in Iraq, “a chance to come back and tell us whether his strategy’s working, and then we can work together on a way forward,”
Sounds to me like they are once again setting up the military to be the fall guy. Since when is it “his” (Petraues) strategy? I thought Bush was the decider???

]]> By: Keith G http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925461 Keith G Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:08:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925461 Link below takes you to the March 2001 map from Cheney's Energy Task Force (obtained by Judicial Watch) showing Iraq's oil fields divided into "exploration blocks". http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/466503255_f7bb4d5e85_o.jpg Link below takes you to the March 2001 map from Cheney’s Energy Task Force (obtained by Judicial Watch) showing Iraq’s oil fields divided into “exploration blocks”.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/466503255_f7bb4d5e85_o.jpg

]]> By: Keith G http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925444 Keith G Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:03:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925444 CNN says: State Dept cannot get enough diplomats to volunteer for Iraq. Soon some may be ordered to the Green Zone. CNN says: State Dept cannot get enough diplomats to volunteer for Iraq. Soon some may be ordered to the Green Zone.

]]> By: Flaco http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925439 Flaco Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:02:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925439 Zo TPers Resident drunk Zo TPers Resident drunk

]]> By: Kilo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/comment-page-5/#comment-3925432 Kilo Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:59:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/10/time-is-up-on-escalation/#comment-3925432 This TP article looks like some sort of Scientology test to see how well the brainwashing has gone. Throw out a clearly flawed claim that everyone can recognise as such and see if a single follower displays even the slightest inclination for independent or critical thinking and will question the message. Looks like a 100% success rate so far. This TP article looks like some sort of Scientology test to see how well the brainwashing has gone.

Throw out a clearly flawed claim that everyone can recognise as such and see if a single follower displays even the slightest inclination for independent or critical thinking and will question the message.

Looks like a 100% success rate so far.

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