Boehner: Senators favoring withdrawal are ‘wimps.’
By on Jul 11th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Boehner: Senators favoring withdrawal are ‘wimps.’
In an attempt to bring “solidarity among House Republicans,” House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) called the Senate Republicans favoring withdrawal “wimps” at a caucus meeting today. Boehner was then criticized by Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM), who said discussions of war “should always be taken seriously.”
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Surrender Monkeys!!!
Attack!
July 11th, 2007 at 4:41 pmAnyone who wears that much makeup should not be saying things like this…
July 11th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAmazing observation:
The same guys who argue that people in favour of leaving Iraq are wussies, argue that leaving Iraq would be wrong because it might hurt the soldiers’ feelings.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:44 pmclassy
July 11th, 2007 at 4:45 pmThat’s what we expect from the Republican leadership — NAME CALLING!
That’ll get the job done.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:45 pmCalling Mr. President.
You have not signed up for tonight’s shift, yet. Please report in as soon as possible.
Thanks.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:46 pmRepublican on Republican hate. What else is there to say?
Popcorn plz. K thx.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:46 pmThis from a guy who never carried a rifle–unless you count joining the NAVY for five months during ‘nam.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:47 pmThat’s what we expect from the Republican leadership — NAME CALLING!
That’ll get the job done.
Comment by spit take
I was listening to Tony Snow on the radio earlier (press briefing) and he actually called one reporter a ‘defeatist’. Audible gasps followed.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:47 pmSo this is the guy leading the Repugs in the House? Wonderful. A leader with a ninth grade mentality. You should do real well in the next election.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:47 pmthis coming from the crying man himself. Talk about mood swings.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:47 pmI seem to remember a crying Boener on the floor of Congress over (IIRC) “Partisanship” on the issue of Iraq.
Funny that.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:48 pm“Wimps”? Isn’t this the guy that has burst into tears on the floor of the Senate on two separate occasions?
Pot, I believe you and Kettle have already met.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:48 pmWimps? Geeze, Boehner cries more easily than football Coach Dick Vermeil and he’s All-World.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:49 pmFor those interested, here are the nay votes from this morning’s Webb amendment:
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Not Voting – 3
Brownback (R-KS)
July 11th, 2007 at 4:49 pmJohnson (D-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
I wouldn’t make too much of the name-calling. I remember a post here at TP not too long ago regarding Boehner and you folks spent an hour making boner jokes like a bunch of grade-schoolers.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:49 pmHa ha. From the guy that wears makeup, tans constantly, and is prone to crying…
I’d like to see this guy in a fight with Webb. We’d see who the wimp is. I’m betting even Heather Wilson would put him down.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:51 pmThat’s right, call anyone who doesn’t agree with you a wimp. We’re all in Kindergarten again.
Oh… I get it now… ReichWingNutWhackJobs want our sons and daughters to die in Iraq… but for what reason???
The ReichWing brings such moral clarity. Don’t they? How can they call themselves “christian” and live with themselves???
July 11th, 2007 at 4:52 pmRingo
Lets see, a US blog or the US Senate. Which do you think should reflect the higher standard of argument?
July 11th, 2007 at 4:53 pmRingo…let it go.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWe can withdraw, but we’ll only be going back later.
Seems like we’d save a lot of money if we just stayed there.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pmBoner knows his extra checks will stop coming if this invasion ends. Boner and the White House know what’s more important not the troops but the money their making. This is part of the GOP and Christian Right policy the hell with people just steal as much money as possible no matter how many soldiers die.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pmI really feel bad for the few honesty Republicans and the Christians that really do believe in GOD. NO worries to the GOP Bush will do what ever he wants no matter who it kills.
By extention, he just called the majority of the nation “wimps.”
That should go over big.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pm** This from John “The Crybaby” Boehner?!
Hahahahahaha!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pmNot Voting – 3
Brownback (R-KS)
Johnson (D-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Comment by Chris L
Hmmmm…wonder where Vitter was.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pmRingo, dear, we’re not Congressional leaders.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThat’s right, call anyone who doesn’t agree with you a wimp. We’re all in Kindergarten again.
Oh… I get it now… ReichWingNutWhackJobs want our sons and daughters to die in Iraq… but for what reason???
Comment by JesusChrist
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You folks call anyone who doesn’t agree with you fascists and Nazis everyday….In fact you did it in you very next sentence.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:56 pmStrange he would say that, when one of the defining characteristics of a Neocon is cowardice.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:57 pmWhat’s even sillier about the comment is that it literally makes no sense. We’re supposed to vote in lockstep with our colleagues because we don’t want to be called wimps? We’re supposed to remain in Iraq indefinitely, regardless of the cost to our country and our military, because we don’t want to be called wimps? Is he in kindergarten or is he a Congressional Representative? Is this the level of argument that Republicans find compelling?
July 11th, 2007 at 4:58 pm“You folks call anyone who doesn’t agree with you fascists and Nazis everyday”
LOL… Still can’t tell the difference between a partisan blog and Congress, dear? My, you’re really getting desperate, aren’t you?
Sadly for Boehner, his comment, widely publicized as it will be, is quite likely to have the opposite effect he intended.
July 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pmBONERS RHETORIC = BUMPER STICKER SLOGANS
July 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pm#30 Ringo,
its one thing to call people names on the interwebzzz its another for a US Senator to do so on the floor of congress…
now stop being an idiot!!
OMGZZZZ LOOK WHAT I SAID!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 5:00 pmTypical. Neocons don’t attack – they order others to attack. say Boo! and they run away. Your order for a good old-fashioned ass-kicking has been received, and will be delivered shortly. Shorty.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:01 pm“BONERS RHETORIC = BUMPER STICKER SLOGANS”
It’s even worse than that. Bumper stickers are supposed to be either funny or compelling. “You’re a wimp if you vote to end the war” doesn’t meet the bar.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:01 pmIt is time to start writing letters to OUR troops and let them know that republicans dont want them around and prefer to see them dead….
July 11th, 2007 at 5:03 pmSo, how many of his kids are serving in the military?
July 11th, 2007 at 5:05 pmGood work, my stupid Lefty Surrender Monkeys!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 5:05 pmThat’s an idiotic comment fan of man.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:05 pmHmmm… not a single Dem voting against the amendment. Yet at least one troll accuses Dems as doing as much to hurt the amendment as Reps did.
I think that if it’s true that we can’t afford to give our troops some relief, we need to admit we don’t have enough manpower to fight all the wars we manage to get ourselves into. The Bushies have three choices: 1) stop picking fights and get out of the ones we are currently in, 2) reinstate the draft, or 3) push our men and women in uniform until they collapse and then push them some more. Guess which option they are currently on?
July 11th, 2007 at 5:06 pmI believe I can explain this talk of “wimps.”
Right-wingers get meanness confused with toughness. They believe that if they say mean things and do mean things, they are therefore tough.
This is one reason why wingnuts are so mean-mouthed–they think they’re tough.
For example, when conservative cundit Ann Coulter fantasizes about shooting the most popular President of the 20th century (Bill Clinton, in a tie with FDR), she thinks she’s being tough. It’s just a wingnut thing.
I needn’t tell you that meanness is not equivalent to toughness, and that being mean does not in any way make you tough.
But Republicans don’t know that.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:06 pmreal men go to a tanning salon several times a week.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:08 pmOMG, how to “win friends and influence people”….call them wimps. Boner is an embarrassment and I have no idea why the Republics put up with him.
I guess that Boner is also calling 72% of the people in the US Wimps because that’s the number who think we should bring our soldiers home NOW!
July 11th, 2007 at 5:09 pmDid John Boehner cry when he was delivering his speech ?
This guy is a the epitome of an asshat !
July 11th, 2007 at 5:10 pmBoehner went on to say, “Mah daddy can beat up your daddy” before burping, scratching his crotch and passing out on the Senate floor.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:11 pmLet me remind everyone here that Boner is the same guy who broke down crying just a few weeks ago while making a speech on supporting the president. Now, this crybaby is calling people “wimps”???!!! Amazing.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:11 pmNot those who don’t agree with Progressive ideology. Just those who espouse Fascist and Nazi-type ideology. Seen any of that nasty crap around here lately? I certainly have.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:12 pmPLEASE DON’T FEED THE TROLLS! All you are doing is reinforcing their childish behavior.
Please take the “NO TROLL” pledge with me. I will not feed the trolls no matter how aggravating they are. Do like I do, if I see that it is a troll posting, I just don’t read it. Or if the first sentence sounds like a troll, move on. Just don’t feed them.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:12 pm“Good work, my stupid Lefty Surrender Monkeys!!!”
LOL… Man, our trolls aren’t even trying anymore, are they? There isn’t a “lefty” attached to this issue, since it’s entirely a Republican Party issue. Poor chap is losing it.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:14 pmAlthough I would have been one of the first people to speak in opposition to the invasion of Iraq, and although I wouldn’t necessarily resort to calling Senators ‘wimps,’ I do firmly believe it is a terrible idea to withdrawal from Iraq at this point. It is unfortunate that we have reached this point, but the situation in Iraq is entirely the United States’ fault, and we have an obligation to continue to offer aid to Iraq, even if it is primarily in the form of combat at this stage.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:14 pmThe Senator is stating facts. Your party is known for committing cowardice acts, i.e. removing presidential impeachment, etc.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:14 pmComment by Daryll — July 11, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Hey, Daryll…still waiting for you answer on the “Chimpy makes little girl cry” thread. For your convenience, I’ll repost the question here:
July 11th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
“Not voting: Vitter (R-LA)”
I guess he’s at home getting the Lorena Bobbitt treatment from his scorned wife. It would be amazing if she really followed through on her threat!
July 11th, 2007 at 5:18 pmThanks margaret for JMOHR’s post. put into words what many have thought.
PiP, care to read post 27 and respond?
July 11th, 2007 at 5:19 pmAlthough I would have been one of the first people to speak in opposition to the invasion of Iraq, and although I wouldn’t necessarily resort to calling Senators ‘wimps,’ I do firmly believe it is a terrible idea to withdrawal from Iraq at this point. It is unfortunate that we have reached this point, but the situation in Iraq is entirely the United States’ fault, and we have an obligation to continue to offer aid to Iraq, even if it is primarily in the form of combat at this stage.
Comment by francis
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Good Lord ! A reasonable TPer who seems not to be a troll.
My hat’s off to you…..Expect to be called a fascist soon.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:19 pmPiP, care to read post 27 and respond?
Comment by hellinabucket — July 11, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
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July 11th, 2007 at 5:22 pmSure but if it’s stupid, I’ll say so.
You, dear man, are rambling. No – actually, you’re blithering. Neocons are the cowards. It’s a proveable assertion. King Neocon – Dick Cheney – has never served in the military, and probably never been in a fight. If challenged directly (with eye contact) he’d piss his pants. Same goes for chimpy, Wolf-o-witz, Rove, Boner, McHenry, Graham, Guiliani, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Savage, and any other Neocon pansy you can name.
Disgusting cowards all.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:22 pmMan – they slip further into insanity with every passing day – sooner or later even the MSM will have to start reporting this crap. How far gone do you have to be to name-call in your own caucus?
July 11th, 2007 at 5:29 pmMan, a serious question about the Bible or Christianity is like kryptonite to Daryll, isn’t it?
July 11th, 2007 at 5:33 pmThis comment is disturbing in many ways. It shows a startling lack of regard for the seriousness and consequences of war. It also shows complete unwillingness to acknowledge that the costs of war have been very high. It is mindsets like this which are keeping America from regaining its leadership position in the global community. The world needs the US’s power and influence in order to address issues of utmost importance, like the fight against global poverty. To do this the US needs political leaders who are informed and accountable, not stubborn and ignorant.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:36 pmfrancis
Right, I am going to do something I normally don’t do because it irritates me when somebody else does it; quote a philosopher:
If the campaign is protracted, the resources of the state will not be equal to the strain.
The current strategy means a long protracted campaign.
The alternative is to cut your losses and lose small.
A third alternative would be to dedicate the troops that the generals originally said you would need, which means raising troop levels by about 200k people (at the minimum). This would require a national draft, and would still not guarantee success.
The first alternative is precisely what every general has known to be a bad idea going back to Sun Tzu. The second is humbling, but far from fatal. The third is politically impossible.
Abandoning Iraq to its own devices is the only solution you have right now, because even as mighty as America is, it can be brought to its knees in a stalemate.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:38 pmI wonder if he cried when he called them wimps.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:40 pmCongressman Cries-a-lot looks like he might be a diaper wearer like Critter Vitter.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:42 pmOkay, the whole thing isn’t a quote, this bit is:
If the campaign is protracted, the resources of the state will not be equal to the strain.
Sun Tzu, the Art of War.
July 11th, 2007 at 5:42 pmWas he crying when he called them wimps???
July 11th, 2007 at 5:50 pmI would like to share a post JMOHR just made over on the Ware/Lieberman threadâ€
[Okay, I don't really give a shit]
“Eric and Blackwater: No, I do not follow the reporting of Ware in a blind basis. However, I was in the Air Force during Nam, I have received the common military education (SoS, ACS and AWC) and I have studied military history for most of my life. I guess that I look for facts and trends to determine whether a military operation is working. Let us look at the facts:
[Well, facts and trends are a good start, let's see what you can do]
1. The level of violence within Iraq has not gone down since the beginning of surge operations. [Okay.] Mostly the violence within country has moved to other areas. [Okay. Shouldn't this be a separate fact] Thus we see growing violence on the outskirts of Bahgdad, [yeah, didn't you just say that] in the north and now in the south as the British continue to draw down. [So are you saying that there is a correlation between the increase of violence and the British draw down? If so, shouldn't this be a separate fact?] Violence in the city has started back as well. Nor do I see any decrease in overall attack levels or civilian deaths. [Okay]
The primary tactic of asymmetrical warfare is to avoid fixed battle with your enemy.[Wow! You really do study military history, don't you?! Thanks for the info!]
2. I look for some appreciation of the political and military enemy. [Is that a fact?] This does not appear to be the case with Bush. [That's not a fact.] He overplays the significance of Al Qaeda as a force in Iraq. [That's not a fact.] He further does not seem to understand the number of competing sectarian groups. [That's not a fact.] Yes, Iran does supply weapons and support to certain groups. [Okay] So do the Saudi’s and other nations. [Okay] One would suspect that a lessening of our involvement would actually lessen some of the violence. [Hmmm..... BwaHAHAHAHAHAHahahHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
Ahh... you Lefties crack me up!!!
hellinabucket, this post is stupid.]
3. This type of civil war will not be dealt with by military means. [What type of civil war, the one where a bunch of crazy muslims want to kill each other? Oh, that's right, Islam is a beautiful religion of peace, as soon as the big bad Westerners leave the Iraqis will make up and be the bestest of friends, I just know it!!!] There has yet to be a mobilization of other nations on the political front. [Okay] The Iraqi government has failed to make any progress towards necessary political actions within the country.[Okay]
4. The Iraqi military has failed to assume significant peace-keeping responsibilities. [Okay] In the most recent joint Iraqi/US major operation, Iraqi’s fielded only 1,500 of the 11,000 troops they were to supply. [Okay] Not a good trend given the amount of time we have had to train and deploy their internal forces. [Agreed. The Iraqis need to get it together.]
5. US forces are significantly below those as a proportion to the civilian population as seen in other areas. [This sentence doesn't make sense.] Gen. Zinseki (sp) thought it would take over 200,000 to 250,000 troops to enforce the peace after initial operations. [Okay] The level of violence that occurred after our failure to prevent chaos in the aftermath of the invasion would require even more troops now. [Again, read what you wrote, it doesn't make any sense. You get distracted by your ranting about "our failure" and you lose your train of thought, here, this is what you said (sans rant): "The level of violence that occurred... would require even more troops now." Is that what you are trying to say?]
6. The failure of the president to have developed plans for the post war phase, failure to have anticipated or recognized the chaotic and later civil war as it developed and his failure to have a plan B to the current strategy[none of these are facts]; all indicates [subject-verb agreement] an inability to serve as commander in chief. [That is not a fact] I do not place the blame on most of the military leaders. [ok] They have learned well that disagreeing with the President or (during planning through 2006) Rummy would be hazardous to your career. [That is not a fact] However, ground commanders have already commented upon the failure of the top generals to properly question the directions from Bush and Rummy. [Okay]
It would take a massive effort at this point to turn thing around in Iraq. [Why would we want to turn things around? Shouldn't we want to keep up the good work?] The US has never been placed on a war footing. [What?] It would take a massive military force to put things back on track at this point. [We are on track, and we have a good size force there already] The budget does not even com close to replacing all the regular. reserve and guard equipment that needs to be replaced as well as supplying new equipment to add another 100,000 to 120.000 troops that it would now take to stabilize the situation. [Is that a fact?] It would most likely require reinstatement of the draft to bring in enough fresh troops to handle the mission. [That is not a fact] Remember, many of our outfits have been through three, four and now five tours. [yup] Unlike WWII and other conventional wars, the strain is much higher on forces that are constantly subjected to severe dessert conditions, terror attacks, and urban fighting without substantial rear areas or quiet zones to rest troops in theater. [Well, I wouldn't compare Iraq to WWII.]
I really have to wonder why anyone would trust the current commander in chief and political leadership to turn this situation around. [You do that.] Their total inability to grasp and adapt to reality on the ground is fatal in any military operation. [You are making assumptions] The inability to admit and correct mistakes or plan in advance for likely adverse consequences to military operations implies a total lack of command capability. [If you say so, but how does that apply here?] Their inability to request additional resources and to level with the American people concerning the massive effort needed initially or now demonstrates a total lack of leadership. [What the hell do you think "the surge" is?]
I have my own thoughts on whether we should have gone into Iraq in the first place. However, a successful military and political operation was never out of the question until this “gang that couldn’t shoot straight†took up the reins. [That is not a fact]
I can only cite Obi Wan Kenobi [and that's it for my hellinabucket, this is too stupid] for those believing that things are going well: Who’s more of a fool, the fool who leads or the fool who follows him.â€
Comment by JMOHR — July 11, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
I hope JMOHR doesn’t mind – thanks!
Comment by margaret — July 11, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
July 11th, 2007 at 6:00 pmIs this the same wussy that cries and sobs at the drop of a hat.
He shouldn’t be the one to throw words like “wimps” around.
Disgusting, pathetic, and a eventually will be seen as a war criminal.
Jack Jett
July 11th, 2007 at 6:04 pmI see where you’re coming from Bruce, and I was once of similar mind, however my thoughts have changed and I think we have a moral obligation to help rebuild the nation which we have destroyed. Even if we left now, they battled it out over there without us for an indeterminate amount of time, and then ‘re-civilized’ the nation, I think the consequences would be negative for the US; there will be plenty of people who will blame the US for the state of their country, and they will have every right to think that. Because we invaded Iraq in the first place, thereby not leaving Iraq to its own devices, it seems like we’re obligated to stick it out and give every effort to fix what we’ve broken. Yes, it’s not the best option for OUR nation, however there need to be consequences for our actions.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:06 pmSo Ford was a wimp when he cut and ran from Vietnam based on the withdrawal timelines Kissinger and Nixon negotiated with the enemy?
Or should we still be there today because the 58,000 American and 3,000,000 Vietnames lives lost were not enough?
Was Eisenhower a wimp for not defeating the commies in Korea?
Was Reagan a wimp when he cut and ran from Lebanon in 1983?
July 11th, 2007 at 6:10 pmThis is great…
Just what the Republicans running for re-election want to hear.
Don’t look at the polls in your home district,
don’t listen to the voters in your home district,
don’t worry about why you can’t raise any campaign money,
don’t worry about trying to explain to your home district taxpayers why their government is killing their sons and daughters and spending $12 billion a month in Iraq,
just don’t risk getting called a “wimp” and stay on board that burning and out of control aircraft called the “Bush Administration” for just a few more years (at least until your re-election).
Yeah, right. What an inspiring message good old Boehner had for his Republican buddies.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:10 pmBoehner,the crying baby, calling other senators ‘wimps’…
July 11th, 2007 at 6:26 pmDid he cry when he said that…?!!
Thanks for reading it PiP. Got yourself a little worked up. Nothing in the post was stupid. It was one of many americans assessment. Much more in depth then your average knee jerk reaction.
You may disagree with it but there was nothing stupid about the post.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:29 pmI’d hate to see Boner’s underwear after one night in the green zone.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:30 pmOr Dora, or Sadr City.
We’d see who the shitstained wimp is then.
I wouldn’t make too much of the name-calling. I remember a post here at TP not too long ago regarding Boehner and you folks spent an hour making boner jokes like a bunch of grade-schoolers.
Comment by Ringo
I don’t know about you, but I demand a different level of behavior, from elected officials speaking on the record, than I do from people commenting on an internet message board.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:46 pmBoner needs to show us how brave he is by leading a platoon into Baquba for a little sweep and hold mission.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:01 pmThe Senator is stating facts. Your party is known for committing cowardice acts, i.e. removing presidential impeachment, etc.
Comment by Daryll — July 11, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
getting out of a situation where you may get shot is smart,not cowardly.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:10 pmstepping in on a fight between two groups who will always be at each others throats is dangerous.
when these two groups both turn against you, standing your ground at the risk of getting shot is just plain f**king stupid.
Boehner needs to shut up.
July 11th, 2007 at 9:43 pmAre the American people wimps too for wanting our troops to come home? Are our troops wimps too for wanting to come home from Iraq’s civil war? Boehner is out of touch with what the American people want. He may be prepared to see more Americans die, but the families of the troops and the American people are not. This war is not a game. This is a matter of life and death. Their lives are on the line everyday. How many more Americans are supposed to die before Boehner decides to see the reality and deal with this war in an adult manner like the democrats and the American people.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:03 pmI would like to know how many Republican senator’s children are involved in search and destroy, roadblock, convoy protection, or isolated outpost duty in Iraq. How easy it is to commit other people to combat, especially if one’s own children are attending elitist colleges or interning on Wall Street.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:17 pmI’d like to point out that cry-baby chicken hawk Boner is not a Senator, just a representative and a bad one at that.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThere are only a handful in Congress from either party, probably less than 10. There was a news report last Fall that said there was no one in the Whitehouse that had any family serving in the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld war – that about says it all.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:34 pm“Wimps”? Is that the best that Rove could come up with?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:01 pmA wimp by definition opts out of the situation. Congress members are not soldiers – they can avoid the IED’s and suicide bombers. Soldiers can’t opt out so they are not wimps. Don’t mix metaphors when comparing oxy (morons) to anyone else.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pmDo not worry, because Boner is probably one of the GOPers who hired prostitutes. If he gets outed, then he is dead meat politically.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:33 pmNEXT TIME CALL THEM SURRENDER MONKEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:56 amThe bravest men, Boner, are those who stand up and put other people in the line of fire, right? You’re just one hell of a brave guy.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:12 amfrancis
The trouble is that all that the current strategy would achieve would be to make the situation worse. If you want to fix the problem you need a draft, which point blank isn’t going to happen, and to boost troop levels by at least 200,000, and even then you would have a major uphill battle with far from certain outcomes.
What America needs right now is a totally different president: One that does not set out to allienate your allies, who knows the value of dividing your enemies amongst themselves, and who recognises the need for hard decisions – real hard decisions that include talking to people he doesn’t like, and listening to what the rest of the world has to say.
A president who doesn’t surround himself with yes-men but rather willingly surrounds himself with people who may disagree with him, but are supremely good at their jobs.
America is in a crisis situation where the whole nation has systematically, been turned to groupthink over the last 6 years, where disagreement with the president was equated to being unpatriotic and where unity was taken as being more important then actually achieving anything.
It is time to reverse that trend.
July 12th, 2007 at 6:45 amI wholeheartedly agree with you on that Bruce.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:09 am…how about that! barney fife(boehner) and col. klink(dubya) share a philosophy!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:27 am