Flynt tracking 20 congressional sex scandals leads.
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Flynt tracking 20 congressional sex scandals leads.
“Larry Flynt, the porn-industry magnate who first linked Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) to the escort service of the ‘D.C. Madam,’ said Wednesday that his investigators are tracking more than 20 leads on alleged congressional sex scandals.”
As Vitter remained missing in action for two Senate votes on defense policy, Flynt insisted that he exposed the conservative lawmaker’s sexual indiscretions only because they contradicted Vitter’s longtime defense of the “sanctity of marriage.”
“If someone’s living a life contrary to the way they’re advocating … then they become fair game,” Flynt told reporters. “I don’t want a man like that legislating for me, especially in the area of morality.”
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Hah, hah. Go, Larry! Go, Larry!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:07 pmYeah. Nothing like destroying other peoples' lives. He must be proud of himself.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:07 pmIt's a pretty sad commentary when a guy like Larry Flynt sounds more rational and principled than the people running our country!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:08 pmThis is why America is beautiful.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:08 pmComment by War4Sale — July 11, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
You got there first -- what War4Sale said.....
July 11th, 2007 at 7:09 pmWhat a country we live in where Hustler is better at reporting news than ABC! ABC has had these records for how long?? And they couldn't come up with squat.
Way to go Larry! Keep all those hypocritical f*cks honest (and I don't care if they are dem or GOP...if they espouse family values they should at least live them themselves!)
July 11th, 2007 at 7:09 pmpeople should watch the video Vitter used his kids for campaign props.
disgusting really.
Vitter did it knowing he was f*cking around hookers.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:10 pm“Republicans are more fun because they get caught so easily,†Flynt said. “They’ve been living a repressed life all their life. Democrats are liberal — they wear it on their sleeve. Their sex life is what it is. They don’t spend their whole life trying to cover it up.â€
So true and funny as hell
July 11th, 2007 at 7:10 pmLets have ALL the names.
We're tired of adulterers screeching about "family values". We're tired of draft dodgers calling for bloody war. We're tired of liars saying that "nothing's changed" and that wiretapping requires warrants—and then systematically tapping untold numbers of phones and stealing private information without warrants.
In short, we're sick of hypocrites and liars and criminals running OUR government. These pathetic losers are EMPLOYEES of WE THE PEOPLE. And since they can't do their jobs, it's time for them to clean out their desks.
IMPEACH NOW!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:10 pmIt’s a pretty sad commentary when a guy like Larry Flynt sounds more rational and principled than the people running our country!
Comment by War4Sale
To borrow a lyric from Metallica it is "Sad But True". I also agree with Flynt in that if you are advocating changes in MY LIFE due to your warped view of morality and God, then keep your own life in order. Is that so diffcult for normal people to understand? maybe so...
July 11th, 2007 at 7:10 pmSo only republicans will be exposed, the democrats are safe from having any links made public.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:11 pm#2, I am sure he is proud! And I am proud of him!
So much for the Fourth Estate. I'm going to subscribe to Hustler now. Apparently you get REAL news, there. HA!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:11 pmWhat a country we live in where Hustler is better at reporting news than ABC! ABC has had these records for how long?? And they couldn’t come up with squat. ---- MsJoanne
Because the corporate owned media does not expose Republicn wrongdoing on their own any longer.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:13 pmThink about it, ABC is the one that put out that trash "Path to 9/11"
Larry Flynt? He's a nice guy and smart as a whip, but turns into a spit-flecked mad dog when it comes sexual hypocrites. Oh, and he's and rich as Croesus.
Go Larry, go!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:13 pmLets have ALL the names.
Comment by Publicus
It’s a pretty sad commentary when a guy like Larry Flynt sounds more rational and principled than the people running our country!
Comment by War4Sale
You're both right.
But if he has all the names, he should release them ALL
Not that we all don't already know that politicians are corrupt.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:13 pmHustler putting the media whores to shame, go figure...all I can say is, "GO LARRY GO". About time someone did some reporting on these liars, and hypocrites.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:14 pmOh and by the way I don't care what party they are in, burn them all.
So much for the Fourth Estate. I’m going to subscribe to Hustler now. Apparently you get REAL news, there. HA!!!
Comment by MsJoanne
Me too.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:14 pmI will subscribe just for the .... ahem.... articles =)
So if a congressman has not said anything about family values his name should not be made public? I think that anybody that has hired a hooker has no business being in public office, republican democrat or whatever.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:16 pmIf Flynt has the names of Dems, and if are "family-values" bullies or are otherwise hypocritical on matters of sex, then I have no doubt he'll publish them.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:16 pmIt just may be that the Dems generally don't hire hookers the way GOPers do. After all, a lot of Democrats actually like women.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:17 pm(cont'd sorry)..actually like women, and may have other avenues of meeting them besides call-girl rings.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:18 pmIf Flynt has the names of Dems, and if are “family-values†bullies or are otherwise hypocritical on matters of sex, then I have no doubt he’ll publish them.
Comment by Arthur C.
And as he should. America is tired of being told how to act by a bunch of hypocrits (left or right). Get out of our lives FOREVER...
July 11th, 2007 at 7:18 pmWhere are all of the TROLLS? No comments from the right??? Talking points aren't up yet??? Expose them all, Rethug or Dem. I want honesty and integrity in government...not a bunch of hypocrites.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:20 pmYeah. Nothing like destroying other peoples’ lives. He must be proud of himself.
Comment by FantasizingAboutHarrietMiers
You mean like the way the self-appointed sex police tried to destroy his life for so long? Let's just call it instant karma.
Anyway, they don't need anyone to help them self destruct...destruction of self as well as other is their M.O.
Go, Larry! Go, Larry!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:20 pmAnd as he should. America is tired of being told how to act by a bunch of hypocrits (left or right). Get out of our lives FOREVER…
Comment by Tom
What about people from the left or right that preach family values and live by what they say? Are you okay being told how to act by them?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:21 pmIf someone’s living a life contrary to the way they’re advocating … then they become fair game.
Larry Flint is definitely not in my top 100 favorite people list, but I fully agree with him on this.
Vitter: Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record
Flint, please go after the Christian Coalition. Please?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:21 pm19,
Exactly. We all know that politicians of both parties have affairs, it's a historical fact.
It also happens to be no business of the public's as long as they get their jobs done.
However, when they start shaking their fat fingers at others and legislating morality (i.e. making it their jobs) we have a right to know whether they hold themselves to the same standards they hold the rest of us to. Hypocrites are capable of doing far more damage to America than simple adulterers.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:22 pmdubbie calls karl "turdblossom" 'cause there's always a little brown flower on the end of dubbie's winky after he does "the bad thing" to karl's bottom.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:23 pmI think that anybody that has hired a hooker has no business being in public office, republican democrat or whatever.
Why? What's wrong with hiring a hooker? As long as you don't run around screaming "family values!" You sound like a sexually repressed person. I'll bet you're a Republican.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:23 pmExactly. We all know that politicians of both parties have affairs, it’s a historical fact.
It also happens to be no business of the public’s as long as they get their jobs done.
However, when they start shaking their fat fingers at others and legislating morality (i.e. making it their jobs) we have a right to know whether they hold themselves to the same standards they hold the rest of us to. Hypocrites are capable of doing far more damage to America than simple adulterers.
Comment by War4Sale
I want to know about any politician that is paying for sex. I think that is America's business.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:25 pm"Why? What’s wrong with hiring a hooker?"
You mean the hookers that pay federal and state income taxes, correct? No wait...are there any?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:25 pmI'm proud to say that I voted for him in the California Gubenatorial election of 2003 (The one where Arnold Schwartznegger was elected)
July 11th, 2007 at 7:25 pmWhy? What’s wrong with hiring a hooker? As long as you don’t run around screaming “family values!†You sound like a sexually repressed person. I’ll bet you’re a Republican.
Comment by paland
It is against the law for starters.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pmOh, look. Another Republican serial adulterer. Gingrich, Livingstone, Hyde, Jiuliani et.al.
That's not news.
But the Madam said he wasn't a freak and he didn't do drugs. He just wanted to talk. So there's nothing to see here folks, move along.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:27 pmLook for 20 more Religious Republicans to ask God for forgiveness as their names come to print. Karl Rove better get busy and stop Larry or it's over for the GOP.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:28 pmAs for the trolls well no more pay checks to keep the lies going. I heard about the other sex service Vitters received he was a very busy man. Wendy just wasn't enough for this man. Let's blame Bill Clinton for what the GOP did sounds good.
Lets have ALL the names.--- publicus
The lists are free to download and the links are at Rawstory
July 11th, 2007 at 7:29 pmYou can bet if there were any Democrats that could be taken down, the right wing blogs would have already exposed them, lmao
But then again, the idiots there may not know how to do real research.
It is against the law for starters.
Not where I'm at here in Nevada. Gambling is illegal in most places too, but I'm not going to sweat some Congressman who goes to Las Vegas and shoots dice occasionally.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:31 pmI've never bought an issue of Hustler in my life (seen them, though), and being married now, I probably never will (and live). Nevertheless, Larry Flynt is my hero. I love it when people are willing to speak truth to power. He is absolutely correct in that Vitter made a big deal out of family values and the "sanctity" of marriage. ("Sanctity" is a term that only applies to the religious aspects of a merriage; it has no validity legally. My wife and I were married in the restaurant where we held the reception by a Justice of the Peace. It is just as legal a marriage as any performed in a church or temple or other religious site.)
Hypocrisy in government officials and public figures MUST be exposed, regardless of the subject. If, hypothetically, Jim Hightower, who writes frequently about the evils of corporate America, were found to have thousands of shares of stock in the companies he complains about, it would be perfectly appropriate to point this hypocrisy out. (I do not believe he does, BTW.) The same applies even more so to people who are supposed to be serving the public first and foremost. If they're going to tell me that something is wrong to do, then they better not be doing it themselves without admitting as much. Good thing I'm not a "public figure".
July 11th, 2007 at 7:31 pmpaland, agreed. I don't care who's screwing whom. If it's consensual, so be it. I don't endorse adultery but that's between the Mr and Mrs and none of my business.
If prostitution is legal in one place, that eradicates any moral standing anywhere else.
If someone needs to hire a prostitute because they can't get what they want and it's consensual...whatever. But that same person telling me I can't get boned up the a$$ if I so choose because it's "gay sex"...well, all I have to say is bugger off! (pun intended)
July 11th, 2007 at 7:31 pmIt is against the law for starters.
Comment by yep
In every state except Nevada. It is perfectly legal and regulated in Nevada
July 11th, 2007 at 7:31 pmSo only republicans will be exposed, the democrats are safe from having any links made public.
Comment by yep
Well if Lieberman's on the list he'll probably be exposed.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:32 pmHoly smokes. The Repervs are in trouble. Please Americans, don't let your children intern for the Repervs.
-GSD
July 11th, 2007 at 7:32 pmWe'll be seeing a lot of this later this week:
http://coastalrain.tripod.com/blogpix/swaggart.jpg
July 11th, 2007 at 7:32 pmBut the Madam said he wasn’t a freak and he didn’t do drugs. He just wanted to talk. So there’s nothing to see here folks, move along.
Well he seemed to think it was a sin of the greatest dire so apparently he was doing more than talk, no?
God you're a tool!
July 11th, 2007 at 7:33 pmya ya ya so Christians have hormones too. yada yada yada. Most of the lib guys here are dogs too. They just like other guys.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:34 pmWayne - spot on - they couldn't research their way out of a seventh-grade book report assignment - that's why they just make it up as they go. Besides, the people who vote for them can't tell shit from shinola in the first place.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:36 pmWhat about people from the left or right that preach family values and live by what they say? Are you okay being told how to act by them?
Comment by yep
Then obviously they're not on the list. That's what this thread is about. Try to concentrate or go away.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:36 pmYeah. Nothing like destroying other peoples’ lives. He must be proud of himself.
Comment by FantasizingAboutHarrietMiers
religious right a$holes made his life hell, even shot him and crippled him for life.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:37 pmI don't blame him for making it his personal mission to reveal hypocrites
But the Madam said he wasn’t a freak and he didn’t do drugs. He just wanted to talk. So there’s nothing to see here folks, move along.
Assuming that's true, if all he wanted to do was talk, why didn't he just drive a few hours outside DC and pay for visit with a psychiatrist? At least the confidentiality of the visit would have been legally protected, and no one could accuse him of hypocrisy.
Since I don't see this as the kind of "offense" that would be considered "bad behavior" to the point of being expelled from the Senate, it will be up to the people of Louisiana to return him to DC or not.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:38 pmYou mean the hookers that pay federal and state income taxes, correct? No wait…are there any?
Comment by G Whiz
Nevada.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:38 pmLarry Flynt:
"Democrats are liberal — they wear it on their sleeve. Their sex life is what it is. They don’t spend their whole life trying to cover it up."
And when they are exposed they will get a pass...as usual, because it's an issue that is irrelevant to their base.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:38 pmAnd when they are exposed they will get a pass…as usual, because it’s an issue that is irrelevant to their base.
Yup! As long as it's not the American populace getting screwed (meaning ME), I could care less what they do in their bedrooms. As long as it's consensual that's up to them and the only person they should have to answer to is their spouse. Not my business at all.
Now when I am getting bent over and having it hammered home against my will, well you better believe that I will be (and am) screaming from the rafters! I call my congresspeople and senators almost daily these days.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:41 pmreligious right a$holes made his life hell, even shot him and crippled him for life.
I don’t blame him for making it his personal mission to reveal hypocrites
Comment by Wayne — July 11, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
Muslim a$holes blew up the world trade towers killing thousands. By your logic then we have a right to destroy their lives too.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:41 pmBut the Madam said he wasn’t a freak and he didn’t do drugs. He just wanted to talk. So there’s nothing to see here folks, move along.
Why didn't he go talk to a priest, minister, reverend?...
you get the point.
They would have talked to him about his lustful urges.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:43 pmSo the fact the prostitution is illegal and the fact most of them will be found to be cheating on their spouses doesn't mean much to you? Thanks vindicating my claim. You were most helpful. Next?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:44 pmMuslim a$holes blew up the world trade towers killing thousands. By your logic then we have a right to destroy their lives too.
Comment by Troll — July 11, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
We already are destroying the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Happy now?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:44 pmIf there WERE any Democrats on THE LIST, you can BET that Rush and fox "news" would be SCREAMING IT 24/7.
Since they are NOT, we can concluded there are NO DEMS on the LIST.
And it's NOT the "hormones". Everybody DOES have them...
It's the HYPOCRISY, pretty much a CHARACTER TRAIT of the Rapeublicans...
July 11th, 2007 at 7:45 pmAnd when they are exposed they will get a pass…as usual, because it’s an issue that is irrelevant to their base.
Comment by Tracy
That's right, progressives don't give a rat's ass who sleeps with who. You found us out. It is the "moral majority" of the right that either act or are hypocrites, well, what will it be?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:45 pmMuslim a$holes blew up the world trade towers killing thousands. By your logic then we have a right to destroy their lives too.
Comment by Troll — July 11, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Umm, Aren't you doing that now? In Iraq and everywhere they exist?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:46 pm#57
Where did it say that no Dems are on the list?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:47 pmTracy,
I think the point is is that these politicians are running on a very strict "Family Values" platform - in fact using it against their democratic opponents who don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with running the country.
(which it doesn't.)
So these guys are telling their constituents that Dem's are godless creatures, but they themselves are guilty of the very same "moral" crime.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:48 pmComment by MsJoanne — July 11, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Comment by paland — July 11, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
And by Waynes logic we are justified in doing so.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:48 pmSo the fact the prostitution is illegal and the fact most of them will be found to be cheating on their spouses doesn’t mean much to you? Thanks vindicating my claim. You were most helpful. Next?
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Not my business nor is it yours. That's between them and their spouses and their god. I care about my COUNTRY. And people like you are wanting to continue to f*ck it up.
Sorry you're so repressed that you can't deal with sexuality. That's human nature. But those hypocritical GOP dickh@ads (like you?) don't' want to admit to or deal with it.
How about you mind your own business and I will mind mine and we both mind what our government does that affects the country?
Forget it, people like you care more about what happens in other people's bedrooms than the destruction of our country.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:48 pm#58
Comment by shane — July 11, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
See #55
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
That's two. Next?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:49 pmWhere did it say that no Dems are on the list?
Because if there WERE, OxyViagara Rush and O'Dildo the FELAFEL MAN would be SCREAMING IT....
RIGHT???
July 11th, 2007 at 7:49 pmBut the Madam said he wasn’t a freak and he didn’t do drugs. He just wanted to talk. So there’s nothing to see here folks, move along.
Comment by nuQler ostrich
"Flynt also claimed to have testimony from five New Orleans prostitutes about their sexual encounters with Vitter, adding that that quintet would likely share the $1 million bounty with Palfrey."
This troll, nuQler ostrich, says that this guy only talked to the hooker and we all believe him. The article on this thread says different. Please question everything these trolls say because they all use Rove's play book and lie their way out of anything.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:50 pmNow when I am getting bent over and having it hammered home against my will, well you better believe that I will be (and am) screaming from the rafters! I call my congresspeople and senators almost daily these days.
Comment by MsJoanne — July 11, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
MsJoanne,
Please tell me you're not calling your Congressman and Senators daily to tell them you are getting bent over and having it hammered home against your will and screaming about it. I'm not sure they want to know that information. Or were you speaking "metaphorically"? ;)
(I hope you know I'm kidding. But your point is a good one.)
I apologize for my playful mood with words.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:51 pmWayne, maybe if I offer it up to a few Thugs they'll take me up on it and I can share in Flynt's bounty. I need a new blue dress anyway! ;-)
July 11th, 2007 at 7:53 pmTroll sez:
First of all, your assertion that Muslims were behind 9/11 is not supported by the available evidence.
Second, Wayne was defending Flynt's mission to reveal the hypocrisy of the religious right. How did you jump from that to "destroying the lives" of Muslims? You may have intended your phrase to mean destroying their reputation, but in the broader context of the Iraq occupation, "destroying the life" of a Muslim takes on a bit more literal of a connotation. Perhaps you ought to be a bit more specific on this point.
Third, speaking of the Iraq occupation, Chimpy and his cronies have caused the deaths of almost 700,000 Iraqi civilians, not to mention the U.S soldiers that have died in this insane conflict of imperialist aggression. Is it OK to "destroy their lives" as well? Again, you see how important it is to accurately define the term "destroy their lives.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:53 pm#58
Comment by shane — July 11, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
See #55
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
That’s two. Next?
Comment by Tracy
The fact that you copied your own post, name and all, to make your point doesn't seem ODD to you?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:55 pm#63
Comment by MsJoanne — July 11, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
"Not my business nor is it yours."
When the asshole that I elected, who represents me and most important works FOR me, gets caught cheating on their spouse, you are totally wrong....it's ALL my business. You seem to forget that the U.S. is a republic, i.e. a representative democracy. I vote people in who are going to represent my values. If you don't think that marital fedility is important then that is your business, but those who represent me in government I have every right to kick their ass for this type of BS behavior.
BTW are you married? Does your husband or "domestic partner" care who pokes you?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:57 pm#61
Comment by trueblue — July 11, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
"So these guys are telling their constituents that Dem’s are godless creatures, but they themselves are guilty of the very same “moral†crime."
Oh, I am all for voting them out for doing so.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:59 pmTracy,
I don't understand your anger, then.
Vitter clearly is a prime example of such a politician.
Why aren't you happy that he's being "outed"?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:01 pmHaha, these fu*king trolls are a joke. They will come up with a lame brained argument/excues for anything, won't they? Just living in their little fantasy world. I am glad that TP gives them all the opprotunity in the world to make themselves look dumb. I have now figured out why TP doesn't get rid of trolls. Trolls are comic relief.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:02 pmunamerica truly is going to Hell.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:02 pm#70
Comment by shane — July 11, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Why be repetitive? You are allowed to read previous posts...aren't you?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:02 pmWayne, the only way this could be any sweeter is if any GOP office holders from Ohio gets snared. The social police types in Cincinatti must be hating life right now to see Larry's mug in the news again bashing them for what they are PLAYER HATERS.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:03 pmHey, what people do in their personal lives is their own business.........
I think I heard that about a million times during the Lewinsky affair. I guess that only applies to politicians that are liberal. Interesting.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:03 pm#
Where did it say that no Dems are on the list?
Because if there WERE, OxyViagara Rush and O’Dildo the FELAFEL MAN would be SCREAMING IT….
RIGHT???
Comment by Ronald Reagan (NOW DEAD) and Master Satan — July 11, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
SILENCE from troll=RIGHT!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 8:03 pm16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 ¶ And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
#77. You are neglecting the hypocrisy of the situation.
But I doubt you could ever understand that.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:05 pm#63
Comment by MsJoanne — July 11, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
“Not my business nor is it yours.â€
When the asshole that I elected, who represents me and most important works FOR me, gets caught cheating on their spouse, you are totally wrong….it’s ALL my business. You seem to forget that the U.S. is a republic, i.e. a representative democracy. I vote people in who are going to represent my values. If you don’t think that marital fidelity is important then that is your business, but those who represent me in government I have every right to kick their ass for this type of BS behavior.
BTW are you married? Does your husband or “domestic partner†care who pokes you?
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
July 11th, 2007 at 8:06 pmAnd by Waynes logic we are justified in doing so.
Comment by Troll
Don't mince my words you twisted f*ckwit
July 11th, 2007 at 8:06 pmI said no such thing.
Your reading comprehension and ignorance is showing again, is that lump in the back of your pants your brains leaking out again?
Wayne, ROTFLMFAO!!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 8:09 pmI wonder if Vitter's wife did her "Lorena Bobbitt" on him and that's why he is missing in action.
I agree with Flint. If you are a hypocrite, then you are fair game. It's going to be fun finding out how many more hypocrites there are out there.
So only republicans will be exposed, the democrats are safe from having any links made public. Comment by yep
And you know this how? ABC has had these names and numbers for months now and ABC is the biggest Bush shill station next to Fauix Noise. If there were Democrats on the list, I guarantee that ABC would have exposed them by now.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:10 pmMsJoanne......you don't find Clinton lying to his wife and the US people a tad hypocritical? What I find hypocritical is liberals that defend Clinton and then pile on someone they hate.
I doubt you could ever understand that.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:10 pmOops....I think I just responded to a troll. My bad. Bad Katie...bad Katie....now don't do that again!
July 11th, 2007 at 8:11 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — July 11, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Trip,
July 11th, 2007 at 8:11 pmThere is no God so anything goes.
As I said, that was between Clinton and his wife. It was not your business. It was not my business. And it certainly wasn't worth how many millions of taxpayer dollars.
Clinton wasn't running on a platform of bull$hit family values.
You're right. I will NEVER understand that. Get your nose out of MY business and deal with your wife. THAT's where your nose belongs, in your own family. If I screw up, that's between me and my guy...not you, not anyone else.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:13 pm"MsJoanne……you don’t find Clinton lying to his wife and the US people a tad hypocritical? "
So, where is the hypocracy. Did Clinton go around preaching fidelity? Did he criticize others for what it was that he was doing?
I really don't think you understand what the word "hypocrite" means. You might want to go look it up in the dictionary.
And, damn, I did it again, I responded to a troll....It's so easy to prove them wrong, it's irresistable.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:13 pm#63
Comment by MsJoanne — July 11, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
"Not my business nor is it yours."
Wrong! What my elected representatives do in private and public is entirely my business. They represent me and my values while they are in D.C. Otherwise there is no point in electing them.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:13 pmKatie, it's hard sometimes. The inanity of it all boggles the mind (or is that bloggles the mind?? :-)
And I would love to see the Bobbitization of that hypocrite! What fun that would be! (snicker)
July 11th, 2007 at 8:14 pmTracy,
Why didn't you answer my questions?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:14 pmWhere did it say that no Dems are on the list?
Because if there WERE, OxyViagara Rush and O’Dildo the FELAFEL MAN would be SCREAMING IT….
RIGHT???
Comment by Ronald Reagan (NOW DEAD) and Master Satan — July 11, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
SILENCE from troll=RIGHT!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 8:15 pmyou don’t find Clinton lying to his wife and the US people a tad hypocritical? What I find hypocritical is liberals that defend Clinton and then pile on someone they hate.
An affair is no ones business excpt for between the parties involved
The issue here is Hypocracy. When someone is a self rightious pompous a$$, like you trying to rule over others for your personal belif and you do the same thing you preach against, outing you revealing the truth is ok in my book
Did clinton push his beliefs on religion and sex on you? No
I doubt you could ever understand that.
Comment by Eric
It is you that has faulty logic and you that has issues with understanding
July 11th, 2007 at 8:18 pmDid you guys hear James Carville refer to Vitter wearing diapers today on Wolf Blitzer? I almost fell out of my chair....he said the prostitute says Vitters likes to wear diapers. I couldn't believe what I heard, but it is up on Wonkette, and several websites have the extended interview with the New Orleans madam.....she was the one who explained how great of a man Vitter is, but he likes to wear diapers. I'm not quite sure how exactly this fetish works, and I don't even want to try to figure it out. I live in Louisiana, and I can tell you, that if Vitter becomes a laughing stock because of DIAPERS, he will have to resign....they would have forgiven him "sins of the flesh," but not this. Louisiana is all into straight sex....at least that's what they say in public. He's toast.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:22 pmSo, where is the hypocracy. Did Clinton go around preaching fidelity?
Comment by Katie — July 11, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
He sure liked to have his picture taken walking out of church on sunday morn holding his bible.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:24 pmSo, where is the hypocracy. Did Clinton go around preaching fidelity?
Comment by Katie — July 11, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
He sure liked to have his picture taken walking out of church on sunday morn holding his bible.
Comment by Troll — July 11, 2007
And George Bush has "prayer meetings" but is a LIAR and a MURDERER of his fellow man...
Your POINT???
July 11th, 2007 at 8:26 pm#95, nice try at a red herring. Love when they throw in those fallacies in logic.
Bonehead.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:28 pmhas his statement about the clinton impeachment
made the rounds yet?
will hunt for link if needed...
July 11th, 2007 at 8:28 pmi meant vitter's statement...
July 11th, 2007 at 8:29 pmThey represent me and my values while they are in D.C. Otherwise there is no point in electing them.
Comment by Tracy
So if you believe in raping children, they have to represent your values huh?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:31 pmYour POINT???
Comment by Ronald Reagan (NOW DEAD) and Master Satan — July 11, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Point is if these folks are hypocrites so was Clinton which was being denied.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:33 pmIn considering impeachment, Vitter asserted, Congress had to judge Clinton on moral terms. Decrying the law professors' failure to see this, Vitter observed, "Is that the level of moral relatively [sic] and vacuousness we have come to?" If no "meaningful action" were to be taken against Clinton, Vitter wrote, "his leadership will only further drain any sense of values left to our political culture."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20070711/cm_thenation/3212734
July 11th, 2007 at 8:38 pmhy·poc·ri·sy (noun)
Definition:
1. feigned high principles: the false claim to or pretense of having admirable principles, beliefs, or feelings
It would be sheer hypocrisy for them to turn around and do what they criticize in others.
2. hypocritical act: an act or instance of hypocrisy
After his hypocrisies became widely known, he decided not to run for re-election.
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/hypocrisy.html
Can we all agree on what the definition of hypocrisy is now? I find many of the Vitter defenders seem to be lacking in their understanding of what the subject is about.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:39 pmMr Viiter calling for Clinton to resign:
"Some current polls may suggest that people are turned off by the whole Clinton mess and don't care -- because the stock market is good, the Clinton spin machine is even better or other reasons. But that doesn't answer the question of whether President Clinton should be impeached and removed from office because he is morally unfit to govern.
The writings of the Founding Fathers are very instructive on this issue. They are not cast in terms of political effectiveness at all but in terms of right and wrong -- moral fitness. Hamilton writes in the Federalists Papers (No. 65) that impeachable offenses are those that "proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust."
Yeah right. btw I heard that more hookers in DC and LA will be coming forward shortly.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:39 pmClinton was not a hypocrite, because he did not campaign on the platform that his opponent was having the wrong kind of sex.
People like Vitter do. That is why he is a hypocrite and Bill Clinton was not. We have heard the right squeal about Clinton's sex life for fifteen years now.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:42 pmHEY! listen up:
*
A Blast from Vitter's Past
In the fall of 1998, David Vitter felt compelled to weigh in on the national debate over the possible impeachment of President Bill Clinton for lying about sex. [...]
...Vitter took issue with a previous article, written by two law professors who had argued that impeachment "is a process of removing a president from office who can no longer effectively govern; it is not about punishment." Given that Clinton was still a capable chief executive, they had maintained, impeachment was not in order.
[...]
He blasted the law professors for criticizing those congressional Republicans pushing for Clinton's impeachment. Their argument that impeachment is "not primarily about right and wrong or moral fitness to govern," he wrote, was utterly wrongheaded. He continued:
Strong words. Now that Vitter, who entered the House of Representatives in 1999 after winning a special election to fill the seat of Representative Bob Livingston (who resigned after being caught in an adultery scandal) and who was elected senator in 2004, has admitted he placed a phone call to the so-called DC Madam, his constituents can only wonder if he will hold himself to the same standards he sought to apply to Bill Clinton.
Vitter, who is married with four children, has been a vigorous advocate of family values, championing abstinence-only programs and calling for a ban on gay marriage. In a statement his office rushed out on Monday night--before he could be outed by Hustler magazine--Vitter said he had committed a "serious sin" and claimed that "several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling." I seem to recall that Bill Clinton took a similar stance after he acknowledged his affair with Monica Lewinsky. That, though, did not prevent Vitter from calling for Clinton's forcible removal from office.
Perhaps Vitter ought to revisit the issue of whether the absence of moral fitness is a firing offense for a public official.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=212734
(this was way too hard to edit... excuse the length...
July 11th, 2007 at 8:46 pmi was hopeful the troolls would read what was in front of them,
knowing they wouldn't dare link to THE NATION *gasp*)
...
We have not heard the right squeal about the sex lives of Eisenhower, Ron and Nancy, GHWB, Giuliani, Newt, Foley, Hyde, Livingston, Jim Baker, Rev Swaggart, Vitter, etc.
That is why it is called hypocrisy.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:47 pm"Point is if these folks are hypocrites so was Clinton which was being denied."
LOL... There's a reason it's being denied ... Clinton wasn't a hypocrite -- on this subject, anyway. All you're demonstrating is that you don't understand the meaning of the word.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:47 pmthat's the link I gave. Shouldn't have said The Nation or David Corn.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:48 pmSo understanding that Clinton like to be seen bible in hand exiting a Christian Church on sunday mornings and that christianity teches against adultery that would make him a hypocrite.
Personally I dont care about any of their sex lives I was just responding to katie.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:48 pmhttp://www.vitterforsenate.com/multimedia.aspx
watch the moments. it was very touching indeed.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:49 pmI don't think L. Flynt cares about politicians having sex, after all he is in this business...what he cares about those who sell 'Family Values' attacking others,claiming purity and then do exactly the opposite of their own preachings to others..
July 11th, 2007 at 8:49 pmI say let Flynt expose these hypocirtes.
"So understanding that Clinton like to be seen bible in hand exiting a Christian Church on sunday mornings"
Well, first of all, you have to establish that Clinton "like [sic] to be seen Bible in hand." As far as I know, he never actively solicited anyone to take his picture walking out of his church.
"and that christianity teches against adultery that would make him a hypocrite."
Nope, it just makes him a sinner. He'd be a hypocrite if he scolded someone else about infidelity at the same time that he himself was unfaithful. As a well-known advice columnist once wrote: "A church is a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints." If we banned everyone who sinned from going to church, we'd have some pretty empty churches.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:52 pmMust not touch My Book if you have have had sex outside of marriage. Bible says penalty is stoning to death. Hope they bring that back in Iraq.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:52 pmClinton was openly a womanizer. He didn't run on family values and it is one of the reason why world leaders around the globe loved and admired him. They too wanted to get lots of tail without having to get it from their wife all of the time.
Hillary doesn't care because the Clinton's have a relationship of business, not love. They have done very well in their business venture together.
The republicans made America a laughing stock over impeaching Clinton for a blow job. They then catapulted this laughing into hate by stealing two elections and pretending that America is the be all end all.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:53 pmSo understanding that Clinton like to be seen bible in hand exiting a Christian Church on sunday mornings and that christianity teches against adultery that would make him a hypocrite.
Personally I dont care about any of their sex lives I was just responding to katie.
Comment by Troll
Fine. And Bush being a MURDERER and LIAR and having "bible meetings" is ALSO being a HYPOCRITE.
PLUS a MURDERER and LIAR, which do NOT show Bush LISTENS to ANYTHING Jesus taught...
July 11th, 2007 at 8:53 pmTroll sez:
Nice cop-out. Given this, why do you even bother to post?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:54 pmIf you don't care then why are you people always trying to push false family values. Or are you gonna tell us you aren't one of those republicans.
And if you aren't then why are you a republican?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:54 pmanother point...
clinton did not pay for it - no crime...
...
July 11th, 2007 at 8:56 pmWas Bush a virgin when he married at 36? Virgin at 21 head of fraternity? That would be a first. Is Jenna a virgin?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:57 pmWhy has DC Madam Deborah Palfrey been charged with a crime[s], while Vitter hasn't been? If soliciting johns is a crime, why isn't soliciting prostitutes?
July 11th, 2007 at 9:05 pmI'm glad that girls can still pose naked in the USA!
If you Leftists got your wish, all the girls would have rags on!
God Bless the USA!
July 11th, 2007 at 9:18 pmI have more respect for Larry Flynt than for any single member of the current administration.
God Bless Hustler Magazine!
July 11th, 2007 at 9:20 pmOh gawd :
"Vitter's Madame: "Most of the clients who wanted to be dominated were Republicans."
Rethugs wanted to wear diapers and stuff while f*cking hookers.
July 11th, 2007 at 9:25 pmHelp Hustle their asses right off to prison, Lawrence ol chap!
July 11th, 2007 at 9:26 pmWhere's Daryll?
July 11th, 2007 at 9:27 pmHey!
#123 is not me!
Larry Flint is a terrorist!
July 11th, 2007 at 9:28 pmJust like muslims!
He targets people he doesn't
like and tries to ruin their career!
Larry Flynt rocks!
July 11th, 2007 at 9:58 pmYet another "morals" Republican:
TITUSVILLE, Fla. -- Florida state Rep. Robert "Bob" Allen, R-Merritt Island, was arrested Wednesday and charged with soliciting an undercover male officer for sex at a park in Central Florida, according to police.
http://www.local6.com/problemsolvers/13664897/detail.html
July 11th, 2007 at 10:01 pmWrong! What my elected representatives do in private and public is entirely my business. They represent me and my values while they are in D.C. Otherwise there is no point in electing them.
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Tracy-Chickenhawk (see the "Giuliani on Vietnam" thread, where Tracy-troll admits that he didn't enlist in this war he supports because he didn't want to be away from the "wife and kids for an extended period of time")
July 11th, 2007 at 10:17 pmYes, your representatives represent you. But if the constituents of other districts don't care if their representatives are gay or have an extramarital relationship, that is not really your business. Of course, if you want to condemn Vitter or get to the bottom of why gay hooker Jeff Gannon was visiting the WH when there weren't even any press conferences scheduled, I won't criticize you for that. How about it, boy?
So it would appear that ABC lied about nobody of signifigance being on the list. Why would the Corporate Media lie to cover for the Republican party? Any thoughts?
July 11th, 2007 at 10:22 pmI’ve never bought an issue of Hustler in my life (seen them, though), and being married now, I probably never will (and live). Nevertheless, Larry Flynt is my hero. I love it when people are willing to speak truth to power.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 11, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
I also have never purchased an issue of "Hustler," and the one or two times I saw it at someone's apartment, I thought it was pretty disgusting. Nevertheless, I adore Larry Flynt, too, for exposing the hypocrisy of supposedly "family values" politicians and offering Ken Starr a job because of his salacious writing. Larry Flynt is one guy who puts his money where his mouth is.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:25 pmI’m glad that girls can still pose naked in the USA!
If you Leftists got your wish, all the girls would have rags on!
God Bless the USA!
Comment by PiP
Yeah, instead, only supporters of TRAITOR Bush (like YOU) have your rags on...
July 11th, 2007 at 10:26 pmSo if a congressman has not said anything about family values his name should not be made public? I think that anybody that has hired a hooker has no business being in public office, republican democrat or whatever.
Comment by yep — July 11, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
suck it, yep. yep yep... yep.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI’m glad that girls can still pose naked in the USA!
If you Leftists got your wish, all the girls would have rags on!
God Bless the USA!
Comment by PiP
Talk about a right wing nutjob flip flop. How utterly laughable! You guys are the repressed a$$holes who can't seem to deal with nudity (remember Janet Jackson?) or sex on any level (if someone else is getting some - which I doubt you are). What a joke!
July 11th, 2007 at 10:32 pmThis whole expose gives me a hard on. That would be "renob" for the benefit of any dyslexics.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:39 pmBible says penalty is stoning to death. Hope they bring that back in Iraq.
Comment by Jehovah — July 11, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
They did, you disgusting pervert. Look it up. There's a video of it on YouTube, if you can stand it.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:44 pm#73
Comment by trueblue — July 11, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
"Why aren’t you happy that he’s being “outed�"
I am. I am glad. I hope the people that voted him in vote him out. I think you misunderstood what I said in post #72.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:50 pm#102
Comment by Wayne — July 11, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
"So if you believe in raping children, they have to represent your values huh?"
What group of people do you know that believes in raping children?
July 11th, 2007 at 10:59 pmWhat group of people do you know that believes in raping children?
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
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Leftists!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:05 pm#132
Comment by Lora — July 11, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
"see the “Giuliani on Vietnam†thread, where Tracy-troll admits that he didn’t enlist in this war he supports because he didn’t want to be away from the “wife and kids for an extended period of timeâ€)"
(See the same thread where Lora thinks that her sick mom was a good excuse not to join the military even during peace time).
"But if the constituents of other districts don’t care if their representatives are gay or have an extramarital relationship, that is not really your business."
If he is a federal congressman or woman yes they do represent me because the laws they help pass affect my life. So yes I do have every right to let them have it in the ear.
"How about it, boy?"
Well I will let you do the honors considering you think you know what happened. Do you have any NEW information little girl or just more speculation?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:11 pm#142
Comment by PiP — July 11, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
Dude, can it!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:14 pmWhat group of people do you know that believes in raping children?
Comment by Tracy
ok, dense one, I will try to explain
Did you or did you not post:
They represent me and my values while they are in D.C. Otherwise there is no point in electing them.
Comment by Tracy
And I asked :
So if you believe in raping children, they have to represent your values huh?
I was trying to give an extreme example to get through your thick head
Another is you believe your values include your religious belief in everyone must wear magic underwear, if they don't expouse that they shouldn't be in office?
Why should everyone conform to your expectations on your sexual preferences or religious beliefs?
What if your representative is a gay pagan, but he looks out for his constituents and does the right thing for the people he represents. He does not mislead people in what believes and who he is?
Why should he or she represent exactly the values you yourself believe everyone else should conform to?
That is the same as forcing your religious beliefs on others.
This thread is about hypocricy, btw, if you didn't notice.
So again, if you were a sick puppy and believed in raping children, why the hell do you think everyone else including your representative should comform to your views?
Exactly what are these views that you believe in that everyone else should have to conform to, including your representative in DC?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:24 pmYeah. Nothing like destroying other peoples’ lives. He must be proud of himself.
Comment by FantasizingAboutHarrietMiers
Seeing as Repubs are Sex Police (See: "B Clinton's Hummer" for more info), when they get hoisted on their own petard, ya can't help but point and laugh, huh?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:25 pmI’m glad that girls can still pose naked in the USA!
If you Leftists got your wish, all the girls would have rags on!
God Bless the USA!
Comment by PiP
Irrational, dishonest, and off-thread!!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:27 pmLarry Flynt needs to out those guys ASAP. Let the circus of sex lies begin > lol.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:29 pmWhat group of people do you know that believes in raping children?
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
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Leftists!!!
Comment by PiP
Mark Foley--teenage Congressional pages
George W. Bush--At age 25, got an abortion for his 15-year-old girlfriend, Robin Lowman... Makes him a child molester, too...
July 11th, 2007 at 11:34 pmIf he is a federal congressman or woman yes they do represent me because the laws they help pass affect my life. So yes I do have every right to let them have it in the ear. --- Tracy
But you do not have the right to expect them to live exactly the way you do or believe what you believe.
So you al;so believe in the war, I have seen your chickenhawker posts, but you couldn't be inconvienienced by joining the military for the war you believe in, as Lora pointed out.
I served 9 years and multiple actions including Desert Storm and live with a leg full of titanium screws holding my leg bones together. I went down to reenlist when 9/11 happened but they would not take me back because of my medical and my age of 42 at the time, because I was Special Forces trained.
Frankly you chickenhawks make me want to puke.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:37 pm#145
"I was trying to give an extreme example to get through your thick head"
Your "extreme" example is a non sequitur as is your next BS example....
"What if your representative is a gay pagan..."
He wouldn't get elected in the first place. Are you deliberate trying to be obtuse with your obsurd examples that you call "extreme"?
"Why should he or she represent exactly the values you yourself believe everyone else should conform to? That is the same as forcing your religious beliefs on others."
I can't believe you are actually asking this. This is not about forcing my religious beliefs on anyone. Do you know what a representative democracy, i.e. a republic is? You elect leaders to the government to take YOUR place, values, beliefs, ect..., in Washington D.C., Austin in my case, in order to ATTEMPT get legislation passed that reflect your values. There still this little exercise called voting on bills. Do YOU not elect your leaders so that they will represent your values and beliefs? Here is an example that is as asinine as yours: Would you elect a representative that was in favor of not taxing the wealthy because he said that they are the ones who actually create jobs and shouldn't pay because they are the ones taking the financial risks in creating those jobs? Do you see how obsurd that example is? When you said this: "....but he looks out for his constituents and does the right thing for the people he represents.", it make no sense because he/she wouldn't be elected to represent me in the first place. If they did get elected I would find another district to live, but even before that I wouldn't move to a district where someone with those values would stand a chance at getting elected in the first place. Again your examples are non sequiturs.
"Why should everyone conform to your expectations on your sexual preferences or religious beliefs?"
Everyone? If they represent and work for me they better represent my values and or religious beliefs. If they don't I have every right to let them know that I don't like it. You don't believe in the 1st amendment?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:00 am1. (See the same thread where Lora thinks that her sick mom was a good excuse not to join the military even during peace time).
“But if the constituents of other districts don’t care if their representatives are gay or have an extramarital relationship, that is not really your business.â€
2. If he is a federal congressman or woman yes they do represent me because the laws they help pass affect my life. So yes I do have every right to let them have it in the ear.
“How about it, boy?â€
3 Well I will let you do the honors considering you think you know what happened. Do you have any NEW information little girl or just more speculation?
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
1. I don't mind if others look at that thread because you, Mr. Hypocrite, never joined after high school nor for this war that you tout as so "honorable." Meanwhile, on another thread, you once called Congressman Sestak (D-PA), who served honorably in the military for some 30 years, including in Iraq, a "twit," all because you, Mr. Chickenhawk, don't agree with his views on the current war. You're the twit, little boy, who talks big about the war but is too chicken to serve.
For the record, although I don't support this war, I have never criticized anyone who has served there for their opinions, little chickenhawk twit. You are perhaps the most shameless troll here yet, chickenhawk hypocrite!
2. Yes, you have the right to let members of Congress not from your district or state to have your ear. But you do not have the right to tell their constituents how to vote.
3. If you can read, you might have noticed that I suggested "getting to the bottom of the issue"--not adding further speculation, little hypocrite boy. Or are you too scared to learn the truth behind the matter, chickenhawk twit?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 am#150
Comment by Wayne — July 11, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
"But you do not have the right to expect them to live exactly the way you do or believe what you believe."
Yes I do have the right to expect it considering they are making laws that I have to live by. Now if they actually do it, is another question. By your logic you have no right to critize or question what ANY of the conservative Republicans in congress do when if comes to law making, cutting taxes, ect...
"...but you couldn’t be inconvienienced by joining the military for the war you believe in, as Lora pointed out."
You didn't see Lora's excuse did you?
"Frankly you chickenhawks make me want to puke."
Thank you for your service, but are you trying to say that I can't support the war if I don't participate in the actual combat? Millions people have supported war efforts the U.S. was involved in over the years that didn't sign up to serve in the military, so you can shove that BS right up your veteran ass.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 amWhat group of people do you know that believes in raping children?
Comment by Tracy — July 11, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
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Leftists!!!
Comment by PiP
Mark Foley–teenage Congressional pages
George W. Bush–At age 25, got an abortion for his 15-year-old girlfriend, Robin Lowman… Makes him a child molester, too…
Comment by Ronald Reagan (NOW DEAD) and Master Satan — July 11, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Here's a list compiled before the Mark Foley (R) scandal broke.
46 REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILES
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a
convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in
prison.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a
10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty
to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to
anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10
years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in
federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to
three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom
Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended
during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after
admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having
an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex
parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties
at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of
having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of
child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of
sex crimes involving children.
* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to
attempted sexual assault on a child.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor
working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly
Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with
a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was
charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for
distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"),
was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful
sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the
drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with
molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having
sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after
the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to
traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a
14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing
his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was
sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after
he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts
of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to
two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year
old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of
first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven
felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age
of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged
with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to
molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual
assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his
two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was
convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded
guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no
contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession
of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months
in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state
representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography
was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin
Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex
from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a
"good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly
having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for
Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas
Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years
in prison.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 amA. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old
girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several
grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he
paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women
You didn’t see Lora’s excuse did you?
Thank you for your service, but are you trying to say that I can’t support the war if I don’t participate in the actual combat? Millions people have supported war efforts the U.S. was involved in over the years that didn’t sign up to serve in the military, so you can shove that BS right up your veteran ass.
Comment by Tracy — July 12, 2007 @ 12:23 am
You're beating a dead horse with that one, Tracy Chickenhawk, since you didn't serve in peacetime or during the war you claim to support. Not to mention your words, "Millions (of) people have supported war efforts the U.S. was involved in over the years that didn’t sign up to serve in the military." Oh, and I do just love how you support the troops and veterans who don't share your opinions, shameless hypocritical chickenhawk!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 amComment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 12:37 am
"You’re beating a dead horse with that one, Tracy Chickenhawk, since you didn’t serve in peacetime or during the war you claim to support"
This is comming from a idiot who actually thinks that to support a war effort you must sign up for military service first and serve. BTW according to your BS logic, those who supported the WW2 war effort by working as civilian engineers or in factories were all chickenhawks. I still would like to know how you can claim that your reasons not to join were noble and justified. You STILL have never explained that one.
"Oh, and I do just love how you support the troops and veterans who don’t share your opinions"
How do you figure I don't support them? Supporting them (depends on what you mean by "supporting" them) and disagreeing with them are two totally different things. I support ALL the troops and veterans, i.e. wanting to provide them with better pay, benefits, ect... Their service, however, doesn't automatically exempt them from criticism. You on the other hand don't agree with the majority of the troops that are serving in Iraq anyway because most of them believe in what they are doing.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:06 amI've seen plenty of footage of Bubba with a "big ole Bible" in his hand coming from church. If that does not represent family values nothing does.
Yep he is a hypocrite and sinner just not in the eyes of TPers because he is a god to them.
Read some of the stupidest most idiotic posts here by libtards.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:24 am1) BTW according to your BS logic, those who supported the WW2 war effort by working as civilian engineers or in factories were all chickenhawks. I still would like to know how you can claim that your reasons not to join were noble and justified.
2) How do you figure I don’t support them? Supporting them (depends on what you mean by “supporting†them) and disagreeing with them are two totally different things. I support ALL the troops and veterans, i.e. wanting to provide them with better pay, benefits, ect… Their service, however, doesn’t automatically exempt them from criticism. You on the other hand don’t agree with the majority of the troops that are serving in Iraq anyway because most of them believe in what they are doing.
Comment by Tracy — July 12, 2007 @ 1:06 am
1) No, little chickenhawk twit, that is your new BS (mis)interpretation. I was, in fact, the one who had to ask you, after you so conceitedly told me that your work is more important than mine, if you regarded people who crack military codes. etc. as not doing important work. After you hinted that being a college professor of languages isn't important, I also had to point out the case of my friend who is teaching Asian languages near a military base and who has many students from there. I would particularly not interpret civil engineers and military linguists, according to your BS
July 12th, 2007 at 1:30 am(il)logic, because my own stepfather never served in the military but worked for many years in the defense industry, little twit! You're the one who has kept on harping about military experience, little chickenhawk boy.
BTW, I never said that my reasons for not joining "were noble." I have only been telling you that you are in no position to harp on this matter, since you never served, either. Why don't you just STFU already, little chickenhawk?
2) Read your own nasty to words to Wayne, a veteran who still bears wounds. There are nicer ways to criticize someone you don't agree with. If you really supported the troops, you wouldn't be so pro-GOP, whose members on the whole have voted against or vetoed better pay and benefits for the them. On the ratings drawn up by the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) on how members of Congress have supported measures to help/support veterans, the GOP fares quite poorly. Almost all the As and Bs go to Democrats. Look at the website if you haven't already.
Finally, I may not agree with the war, however I would never have the gall to call any of the troops there or others who have served "twit" or to use the rude language you threw at Wayne, Chickenhawk Twit.
Yep he is a hypocrite and sinner just not in the eyes of TPers because he is a god to them.
Read some of the stupidest most idiotic posts here by libtards.
Comment by Flaco — July 12, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Yes, Flakehead, Clinton is a sinner. But I don't recall his hypocritically preaching a morality that he didn't practice, nor post on his website (like Vitter) that "gay marriage is the gravest issue faced by the USA." I mean, leven drop the war on terror, because we've got to get Al Queerda first!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:39 amI also hate to disappoint you, but Clinton is no god to me, though Dumbya may be one to you.
Finally, I've taken the liberty of correcting your last sentence.
Read some of the stupidest, most idiotic posts here by troll-tards.
Comment by Flaco — July 12, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Your mom lets you stay up this late?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:43 am"And when they are exposed they will get a pass…as usual, because it’s an issue that is irrelevant to their base."
That's right Tracy! Because we would never vote for Republicans to begin with...we figured out their con long ago. A Democrat getting a little on the side is not what we care about. We care about how they run our nation's business.
But this is very relevant to your base. And if you lose the religious base, you got nothing. 25 more coming down the pike? I think you ought to get ahead of the story and start refering to the GOP as the "Party of Familar Values"....maybe no one will notice.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:50 am#155
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 1:30 am
"No, little chickenhawk twit, that is your new BS (mis)interpretation"
Explain how I misinterpreted it.
"...if you regarded people who crack military codes. etc. as not doing important work."
And I said it was.
"After you hinted that being a college professor of languages isn’t important, I also had to point out the case of my friend who is teaching Asian languages near a military base and who has many students from there."
And when you pointed out this example I gave kuddos and now I completely retract my statement. Good example.
"....because my own stepfather never served in the military but worked for many years in the defense industry, little twit!"
So he is chickenhawk too? Hard to believe that some who worked in the defence industry wouldn't be in support of the war efforts the U.S. has been engaged in.
"I have only been telling you that you are in no position to harp on this matter, since you never served, either."
I am not the one who first called my excuse not to join lame. You had not room in the first place to say my excuse was lame considering yours was just as bad.
This one of your comments:
"My mother’s bout with cancer isn’t enough for you, eh? Besides, I don’t have to because you’re the one who brought up the issue first and who also supports this war but won’t join the military."
This ceritainly sounds like a BS defense to me. BTW I didn't bring it up. You cut in on the thread and said that my excuse not to join was lame, which was just an answer to a question asked earlier by another poster.
"There are nicer ways to criticize someone you don’t agree with."
Hey there was no call for his personal insults...too bad for him.
"If you really supported the troops, you wouldn’t be so pro-GOP..."
I don't support their blocking of benefits. This is yet another reason I want them all out of office....something I have made quite clear before in this blog; however, voting for the Dems because of this one issue is not a good enough reason for meconsidering the rest of their BS agenda.
"I would never have the gall to call any of the troops there or others who have served “twit†or to use the rude language you threw at Wayne, Chickenhawk Twit."
Again, you have never use a deragatory word to describe ANY GOP veterans? BTW if he wouldn't have been a jerk in the first place I wouldn't have had to return fire.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:09 amBTW if he wouldn’t have been a jerk in the first place I wouldn’t have had to return fire.
Comment by Tracy — July 12, 2007 @ 2:09 am
There is such a thing as "taking the high road."
July 12th, 2007 at 2:17 am#160
Comment by Innocent Bystander — July 12, 2007 @ 1:50 am
"A Democrat getting a little on the side is not what we care about."
Even if they are married? Explain why ANY Democrat is married then if infidelity isn't important to them? You are in the far left wacko camp FYI.
"And if you lose the religious base, you got nothing."
And if you loose your "godless" base you have nothing either.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:18 am“….because my own stepfather never served in the military but worked for many years in the defense industry, little twit!â€
1) So he is chickenhawk too? Hard to believe that some who worked in the defence industry wouldn’t be in support of the war efforts the U.S. has been engaged in.
“I have only been telling you that you are in no position to harp on this matter, since you never served, either.â€
2) I am not the one who first called my excuse not to join lame. You had not room in the first place to say my excuse was lame considering yours was just as bad.
Comment by Tracy
1) Jeez, can't you read? I just told you I don't look down on civil engineers, etc. as chickenhawks--particularly because my stepfather worked in the defense industry for many years, and now you're still asking me this stupid question? BTW, my stepfather is dead, so no one can say what his position on the Iraq War would be. Still, since he was a scientist and a conservationist, I doubt that he would be supporting the current administration. even though he grew up Republican.
2) You keep spinning the tale, boy, but your LAME excuse concerned the current Iraq War. You're the one who keeps on bringing up high school, etc., to deflect from the fact that you think it's okay for you to stay home with your wife and kids, while many soldiers are being redeployed to Iraq two or three times for this war you support. I don't support it, so I have every reason not to volunteer, Chickenhawk--not to mention, the injuries I suffered since my 20s from a taxi accident, etc. On not serving right out of high school (I was just 16) or at age 18, we're even, Chickenhawk Twit, no matter how many times you try to spin it.
3) Again, you have never use(d) a deragatory(SIC) word to describe ANY GOP veterans?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:33 amI have criticized Duncan Hunter for reasons not concerned with the Iraq War. But in reference to the Iraq War, I feel that he and John McCain are the only current contenders for the GOP nomination for presidency (anti-war Ron Paul is another case) who are at least not hypocrites in that they have sons in the military. So no, I have not used derogatory words about the few vets in the GOP in matters related to the military.
After you hinted that being a college professor of languages isn’t important, I also had to point out the case of my friend who is teaching Asian languages near a military base and who has many students from there.â€
And when you pointed out this example I gave kuddos(SIC) and now I completely retract my statement. Good example.
Comment by Tracy
You may be retracting your statement now, but you didn't give me kudos at first. You just told me I myself was "too stupid to be teaching." In reality, I was offered a high-paying position. And I've also told you I've done government work, but it doesn't seem to sink into your thick head.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:02 am#162
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 2:33 am
"...and now you’re still asking me this stupid question?"
Can't you read?...that is the first time I asked that particular question.
"BTW, my stepfather is dead, so no one can say what his position on the Iraq War would be."
"Still, since he was a scientist and a conservationist, I doubt that he would be supporting the current administration."
Him being a chickenhawk or not has nothing to do with whether or not he would be in support of the 2003 Iraq war. A chickenhawk, is someone who supports a war effort, ANY war effort, but decided not to serve...not necessarily the Iraq war. You can't call people chickenhawks and give others a pass based on which conflict you are referring to and/or support.
"I don’t support it, so I have every reason not to volunteer"
Considering you are too old and disabled apparently, you can't volunteer anyway. That is an irrelevant statement.
"On not serving right out of high school (I was just 16) or at age 18, we’re even, Chickenhawk Twit, no matter how many times you try to spin it."
Well hot damn she finally admitted that her excuse was lame! Call the newspapers! Why was that so hard?
July 12th, 2007 at 3:07 am#162
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 3:02 am
"You just told me I myself was “too stupid to be teaching.â€"
Oh, do I explain why I made that statment? I you can't remember...oh well.
"And I’ve also told you I’ve done government work, but it doesn’t seem to sink into your thick head."
All you have to do is offer a little proof...I did offer proof that I worked for the government.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:12 amStill, since he was a scientist and a conservationist, I doubt that he would be supporting the current administration.â€
1) Him being a chickenhawk or not has nothing to do with whether or not he would be in support of the 2003 Iraq war. A chickenhawk, is someone who supports a war effort, ANY war effort, but decided not to serve…not necessarily the Iraq war. You can’t call people chickenhawks and give others a pass based on which conflict you are referring to and/or support.
2) Well hot damn she finally admitted that her excuse was lame! Call the newspapers! Why was that so hard?
Comment by Tracy
1) My reference to my belief that my stepfather would not be supporting this administration had nothing to do with chickenhawks or this war, Chickenhawk Tracy. Let me spell it out, since you apparently can't understand that a scientist and a conservationist might not like this administration's anti-science, anti-evolution, anti-environment stance and particularly in my stepfather's personal case, its pandering to the religious right.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:16 am2) I never called your excuse for not enlisting at age 18 or fresh out of high school "lame." The reference was to your excuse for not enlisting in the war you so avidly support now; it's LAME, LAME, LAME! So hold calling the media, because I admitted nothing, Chickehhawk Twit.
1) Oh, do I explain why I made that statment? I you can’t remember…oh well.
“And I’ve also told you I’ve done government work, but it doesn’t seem to sink into your thick head.â€
All you have to do is offer a little proof…I did offer proof that I worked for the government.
Comment by Tracy — July 12, 2007 @ 3:12 am
1) This sentence is unintelligible.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:26 am2) You offered a website, which doesn't necessarily proved you worked there. If you really think I'm going to offer proof here on an open blog that I've done some sensitive work, you're really stupid, and your repeated demands are treasonous. And frankly, I don't give a damn whether a chickenhawk twit like yourself believe me or not.
You've outed your own self as a hypocritical chickenhawk, and all your attempts to attack me and spin it won't change that fact.
when liberals attack. to bad Larry Flynt has died from aids
July 12th, 2007 at 7:46 amC'mon Larry, go after these self-righteous Jesus Boys. Take them down. Destroy them.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:24 amRead your own nasty to words to Wayne, a veteran who still bears wounds. There are nicer ways to criticize someone you don’t agree with. If you really supported the troops, you wouldn’t be so pro-GOP, whose members on the whole have voted against or vetoed better pay and benefits for the them. On the ratings drawn up by the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) on how members of Congress have supported measures to help/support veterans, the GOP fares quite poorly. Almost all the As and Bs go to Democrats. Look at the website if you haven’t already.
Finally, I may not agree with the war, however I would never have the gall to call any of the troops there or others who have served “twit†or to use the rude language you threw at Wayne, Chickenhawk Twit.
Comment by Lora
Tracy, like alot of the chickenhawkers have made derogatory remarks against most of the Veterans that post here while still claiming they "support the troops".
The GOP ended the 50 years of yearly meetings with veteran groups to hear veteran greivances because the deplorable conditions for veterans "embarrased the President". They cut veterans services, set a system up with non vets on review boards that systematically has denied veteran medical claims.
My own sister served in the current Iraq was and came home wounded from mortar fire, loosing most of her pancreas and part of her liver. She now is having to fight to get her medical back because after getting her medical discharge was denied coverage because her complications such as developing diabetes was claimed by the review board not to have anything to do with her war injuries.
They sent troops with no body armor or properly armored trucks and transport becaue of all the cuts that were made. Men and women of the military sacrificed on the alter of "Tax cuts for the Rich". Men and women who died or injured for life so Paris Hilton can get a new car to drive drunk in.
And still the chikenhawks claim they support the troops and kiss GW Bush's ass.
Meanwhile these chickenhawks claim to support the troops yet do not condemn the GOP for the deplorable way they treat our wounded and veterans. They sport their made in china magnetic "support the troops" stickers and kiss the feet of GW bush and are so proud that they claim to hypocritically support the troops.
Now as I stated before, right after 9/11, when I didn't know the possibility that the Bush administration possibly could have been the blame for that attack, I personally tried to reinlist. Not because I support war, but because we were attacked, I felt my country might need me, because of my training and the fact that I had experience in anti-terrorist actions. They wouldn't even take me back to train troops, because of my medical and age.
Yet these chickenhawks harp on kill muslums and want to send troops in harms war for the Iraq war which was started on nothing but lies. Not all muslums are radicals and terrorist, in fact there are many muslums that proudly serve in our nations military. I am not christian, I am a student of many philosophies as well as my Native American side of my family tree. Another thing these chickenhawkers make me sick with is their blatent bigotry. Since I have native american features, even now since this anti-immigration crap started, I get biggots that want to call me spic and wetback, because they are ignorant idiots that think that anyone with native features are mexicans.
Yes Tracy is a hypocrite. There are other trolls much worst, such as the Mr. President/PiP troll who could join but has posted on these board that he won't because the military men and women should make the sacrifices for him that he is too much a coward to do himself.
ok, I have ranted long enough hehe
July 12th, 2007 at 8:41 amok, I have ranted long enough hehe
Comment by Wayne — July 12, 2007 @ 8:41 am
You're certainly entitled to rant about this as much as you like, Wayne. And my best wishes for your sister. It is so sad to hear about her, while the Bush brats and their various cousins are all free to ignore the sacrifice others like your sister are making.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:36 amYeah, amazingly enough Larry Flint and the left didn't mind when Clinton lead a double sexual life, right? Affairs, cheatings is the epidomy of being a hypocrite.
I know you Libtards are despertly trying to distinguish Clinton's sexual escapades from Vitter's....the fact remains BOTH are hypocrites.
Leading a double life in any part of your life is being a hypocrite.
Furthermore, Clinton loved, loved to be shown coming out of his Baptist Church every Sunday during his Presidency. Are you not a hypocrite if you demand moral authority by coming out of a Church every sunday and then you are cheating? Of course yes.
Amazing how the left loves to excuse the immoralities and sins of their politicians, but are quick to condemn those on the right if they do exactly the same thing.
Furthermore there is another huge difference, Vitter hasn't lied about it!!!!
He came straight out and apologized, said he did it and admitted to having gone to counseling, etc.
What did the left wing god do? Clinton lied to the American people when he was caught red handed. He lied and lied and lied about it, until he could not lie anymore.
yes, Vitter is a hypocrite for having being pushing family values and he himself not doing his part in his personal life. But this is no different than what Clinton did.
Once again, amazing how the left embraces Clinton for his sins, yet they attack a Republican for the same thing.
And as I read, this scandal seems to cover both sides of the eisle, let us see how the left reacts when it comes out that Democratic politicians also use the service of this madam.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:58 amok, I have ranted long enough hehe
Comment by Wayne — July 12, 2007 @ 8:41 am
You’re certainly entitled to rant about this as much as you like, Wayne. And my best wishes for your sister. It is so sad to hear about her, while the Bush brats and their various cousins are all free to ignore the sacrifice others like your sister are making.
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 9:36 am
Lora,
WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER ARMED FORCES!!!
did you demand that Clinton's daughter join the armed forces because Clinton sent troops to fight and he himself never served?
What stupid logic to demand someone's kids to go fight a war when we live in a FREE nation where serving in the military is a choice, not a demand from your nation.
Only the Libtards would use such stupid logic. pathetic.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:02 amYou’re certainly entitled to rant about this as much as you like, Wayne. And my best wishes for your sister. It is so sad to hear about her, while the Bush brats and their various cousins are all free to ignore the sacrifice others like your sister are making.
Comment by Lora
The sacrifice continues. My family is now vocal against the Iraq War, even though some of my family still serves even now.
When she and her husband were both sent to Iraq, my 2 nephews had to stay with my Father, who retired from the Air Force 2 years ago. Her 2 sons had to be without their mother and father while both were serving their tours. She is now staying with my dad also because of the medical situation, also her husband had to reinlist to so she could get coverage while she is appealing her own coverage.
One of my sons is in the national guard and is now also currently serving in Iraq. He should be coming home in 3 more months, if they don't extend his tour.
Now she is disabled and having to fight the medical review board rather than being able to rest and recover and enjoy her chance to be home with her sons while her husband is fighting in Iraq, instead of Afganistan and Pakistan where Al Qaeda really is.
My family has has served in the military for a few generations, but even my once hardcore gop supporting dad is disgusted with the republicans and their real treatment of the troops and veterans. He has switched to Democrat, which was a suprising shock to me when he told me.
From my perspective the trolls like tracy are beneath comtempt.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:10 amOnly the Libtards would use such stupid logic. pathetic.
Comment by Conservatron
only a chickenhawk piece of sh*t like you would post the crap you do sitting safe behind your keyboard while others bleed for a war you blindly support
July 12th, 2007 at 10:12 amYou are disgusting and I suspect are sub-human
And as I read, this scandal seems to cover both sides of the eisle, let us see how the left reacts when it comes out that Democratic politicians also use the service of this madam.
Comment by Conservatron
This is amazing!!!
You can read????
July 12th, 2007 at 10:14 amLora,
WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER ARMED FORCES!!!
did you demand that Clinton’s daughter join the armed forces because Clinton sent troops to fight and he himself never served?
Conservatard/howsad/valiantthehater, etc.
The USA wasn't involved in the wars Clinton sent troops to anywhere as near as long as this Iraq War, which has now gone on longer than WWII. Clinton didn't serve, nor did Bush (his Daddy arranged for him to jump over 100s on the National Guard Waiting List) and five deferment Cheney. BTW, I haven't exactly demanded that the Bush brats serve; I suggested it might be a nice way for the Bushes to set an example by by serving in what their daddy calls a "noble war." And it's probably a good bet that you have never served, Mr. Smarty-pants who can't spell or punctuate but loves to tell others how stupid they are,.
Just a few examples, for your perusal, vilethehater,
Affairs, cheatings is(bad grammar--ever heard of the plural) the epidomy(SIC) of being a hypocrite.
And as I read, this scandal seems to cover both sides of the eisle(SIC), let us see how the left reacts when it comes out that Democratic politicians also use the service of this madam. (yet another run-on sentence, poor punctuation)
And, BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if some Dems have used the Madam's services. But, unlike a paid troll like you, I won't be defending them. Anyway, learn some basic English grammar before spewing your bile about how stupid people to the left of you are, nitwit.
I know you Libtards are despertly(SIC) trying to distinguish Clinton’s
July 12th, 2007 at 10:19 amWayne,
July 12th, 2007 at 10:24 amIs there anything we can do to help your sister, even signing a petition?
And I thought Tracy was bad, but conservatard must be the lowest scumbag around. But, of course, I think he is a paid troll, whereas I feel that Tracy is coming here on his own initiative.
I've got to go out soon. But please if there is any way I can be of help to your sister, please post again. I'll be looking for it later.
Lora,
WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER ARMED FORCES!!!
did you demand that Clinton’s daughter join the armed forces because Clinton sent troops to fight and he himself never served?
Conservatard/howsad/valiantthehater, etc.
The USA wasn’t involved in the wars Clinton sent troops to anywhere as near as long as this Iraq War, which has now gone on longer than WWII. Clinton didn’t serve, nor did Bush (his Daddy arranged for him to jump over 100s on the National Guard Waiting List) and five deferment Cheney. BTW, I haven’t exactly demanded that the Bush brats serve; I suggested it might be a nice way for the Bushes to set an example by by serving in what their daddy calls a “noble war.†And it’s probably a good bet that you have never served, Mr. Smarty-pants who can’t spell or punctuate but loves to tell others how stupid they are,.
Just a few examples, for your perusal, vilethehater,
Affairs, cheatings is(bad grammar–ever heard of the plural) the epidomy(SIC) of being a hypocrite.
And as I read, this scandal seems to cover both sides of the eisle(SIC), let us see how the left reacts when it comes out that Democratic politicians also use the service of this madam. (yet another run-on sentence, poor punctuation)
And, BTW, I wouldn’t be surprised if some Dems have used the Madam’s services. But, unlike a paid troll like you, I won’t be defending them. Anyway, learn some basic English grammar before spewing your bile about how stupid people to the left of you are, nitwit.
I know you Libtards are despertly(SIC) trying to distinguish Clinton’s
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 10:19 am
Lora,
pure and utter stupidity from a lunatic on the left. Dumb fck you are.
So, Bush should force his daughters to serve because the Iraq War has gone longer than any war that we were involved under Clinton?
Funny enough the whole, "Bush sould send his daughters to war" argument has been used by the left long before the Iraq War went longer than WWII.
You can't be this stupid....No wonder you are a walk in lock-step libtard.
and my little child, here are a couple of clues for you...
1) I am writing on a site full of stupid, poorly educated, pathetic Libtards. Why would I bother to respect you and write with proper grammar and spelling? I write at a level that you, my Libtards, will be able to understand.
2)Please point out, my dumb fck, when the hell did I defend Vitter....c'mon, you accused me of defeding Vitter, point out where. I didn't defend them, I just showed what a fcking hypocrite left wing rats like you are. Vitter is a hypocrite, as much as your god Clinton. Stop being such a pathetic human being and admit it. Not only are you a stupid person, you are also liar. Typical traits of a Libtard.
3)Isn't it amazine that Libtards like you who supposedly are pro-women love, adore and worship Clinton, a guy that treats women like whores. Man you people are pathetic.
I am laughing at your immense stupidity.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:34 amI am writing on a site full of stupid, poorly educated, pathetic Libtards.
I guess that makes you guilty by association then.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:37 amIs there anything we can do to help your sister, even signing a petition?
Comment by Lora
She has a lawyer who is also a veteran who is taking her case through appeals pro-bono, no charge. He says they will win, because the review board's conclusion bordered on total idiocy. He says their side of the case will not pass through the appeals process and her medical will be restored. She has military doctors and several private doctors who have gone on record that her coplications are directly related to her injuries.
She is not the only veteran that is being trated this way.
What veterans need is more support and for the media to really let the american public know what is going on.
We need congress to act and stop the abuse machine that the bush adminstration has created. It is not just the Justice Dept that has been politicized, it is almost every branch of the Executive.
We need to have Bush impeached NOW and for the government cleaned up and returned from the hands of these fascists to We The People.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:37 amWe need our troops brought home from Iraq now so no more die for a war started for lies.
sorry my spelling is really bad this morning hehe. Getting ready for work and not checking before I hit post.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:39 amIs there anything we can do to help your sister, even signing a petition?
Comment by Lora
More on that.
I wanted to set up a web site outlining her situation, but she nixxed that idea.
The reason is, because of the smearing and retaliation against current military and those who just got out by this administration. He husband is in Iraq now and she fears if she took her case public that he would be retaliated aqainst as well as her case being jepardized.
Remember the news not very long ago about the marine with an honorable discharge that dared to draw the public eye with his protests? they changed his honorable discharge to a dishonorable discharge in retalliation.
That sent shockwaves through the veteran community and has had the effect the Bush Administration wanted, they silenced a big portion of the veteran comunity
The military has also ordered service men and women to not post on blogs etc. One reason we do not see the marine Hacker Bob post any more.
We need to fix the mess in washington first so people can speak without retalliation.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:21 amLook at the Democratic "family values" here kiddies.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1642649,00.html
July 12th, 2007 at 11:57 amIn this campaign season, if Clinton and Barack Obama and John Edwards are any measure, there will be nothing unusual in Democrats' talking about the God who guides them and the beliefs that sustain them. Clinton has hired Burns Strider, a congressional staffer (and evangelical Baptist from Mississippi) who is assembling a faith steering group from major denominations and sends out a weekly wrap-up,
Faith, Family and Values.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:59 amCampaign about famly values begins and Hillary is a moderate. :D Heh
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThis topic was discussed by an MSNBC talking head woman and a WaPo writing head woman - they chattered about Vitter, Flynt Revenge and Bob Livingston's affair in 1998, without once mentioning that Bill Clinton was about to be impeached by a couple of adulterers. I had to change the channel.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pm1) I am writing on a site full of stupid, poorly educated, pathetic Libtards. Why would I bother to respect you and write with proper grammar and spelling? I write at a level that you, my Libtards, will be able to understand
Not only are you a stupid person, you are also liar. Typical traits of a Libtard
Comment by conservatard
1) Oh, what a poor excuse. If you could write in proper grammar with good spelling and punctuation, it would come NATURALLY to you. Also, since you are trying so hard to impress us with your superiority, you would actually make an effort to come across literate. You never have, howsad/vilethe hater/conservatard.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:32 pmOnly in your wet dreams do I worship Clinton, probably because no woman in her right mind would have a thing to do with you, ugly dimwit!
Finally, would you care to point out where I have ever lied here, and can you back it up with proof? I didn't think so.
did you demand that Clinton’s daughter join the armed forces because Clinton sent troops to fight and he himself never served?
Blather by conservatard
BTW, conservatard/howsad/vilethehater,various Dem president-wannabes
July 12th, 2007 at 5:56 pmChelsea Clinton was born in 1980 and a minor during most of Clinton's presidency--not that would matter a G(reedy)O(rnery)P(ervert) paid troll like you.
Too bad the Republiscums can't even find someone who is literate.
I wanted to set up a web site outlining her situation, but she nixxed that idea.
The reason is, because of the smearing and retaliation against current military and those who just got out by this administration. He husband is in Iraq now and she fears if she took her case public that he would be retaliated aqainst as well as her case being jepardized.
Comment by Wayne
I was going to suggest that TP take up her case occasionally, but I can understand the reason why your sister wouldn't want the website or other publicity. I've read about the retaliation, and I'm sure that there's more going on.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:59 pmAnyway, please keep us posted on your sister's progress, both health-wise and in the legal case.
"Here I come to save the day!!!". Larry Flynt, the self appointed investigator for the left? I just thought of a great bumper sticker for you smelly, ugly, no bra wearing, Clinton loving, men hating feminist: "Feminist 4 Flynt". Perfect, perfect, perfect! The man who has degraded women for decades is now a face for the Democratic party. He ran for president one time didn't he? It is pathetic if you cheer for Larry Flynt. He has ruined more young lives, women mostly. Used them up and spit them out for his well being. Isn't it nice to see you well educated, modern women(Progresive Women), stand up for your fellow gender and put a man like Larry Flynt high up on a pedestal? Where are your morals? Where are your scruples is the better question, since having no morals is a badge you seem to wear so proudly.
Lets play a game? You are a feminist who loves the Democratic party. You may have once burned your bra in an attempt at protest. You may have even done some clam bumping in college out of curiosity. You voted for Bill Clinton because he will change the world and make it a better place. Then comes Larry Flynt, a self procalaimed "womanizer" who has distributed thousands of male orientated magazines around the world, depicting women in ways you would not won't to see your daughter, mother, sister, etc. He "outs" a few Republicans who sleep with whores, and that makes you all warm and squishy inside. Question? Because you are a feminist, and stand for all that is feminism, do you cheer a a man like Larry Flynt? And if so, why? Do you feel sorry for Mrs. Republican and what her family is going through, her husbands betrayal? Do you say, as was during Clinton's impeachment, "Oh, it's there personal business", and just deny the fact you once turned your back on your feminist views when Clinton was in orifice? Or do you stand up and disclaim a man like Larry Flynt? Or do you just applaud that a Neocon has bit the dust and ignore the fact the man responsible fot it is eveything you despise in your everyday life?
July 12th, 2007 at 6:11 pmYeah, its not like he's naming covert CIA agents...
July 12th, 2007 at 7:43 pmComment by Johnny Swank — July 12, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
I wonder if you have even read any of the earlier comments here. The two main points are Vitter's hypocrisy in not practicing what he preaches. The second, in contrast to Clinton, whose affair I have never defended, Vitter was doing something illegal (prostitution) in every state but Nevada.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:25 pmI myself have already written that I found "Hustler" magazine when I took a look at it at someone's apartment many years ago. Still, I admire Larry Flynt for spending a considerable amount of his own money to out the hypocrites. And in any case, the DC Madam's telephone number list was apparently sent to 50 sources. Larry Flynt's operation may have been the first to trace a number to Vitter, but eventually someone else would have discovered it, too, Johnny. Sorry about that.
Finally yes, I feel sorry for Vitter's wife and family, but that's partly because they're living with a hypocrite who tells people to do what he says but not what he does.
I left out the word "disgusting" in my opinion of "Hustler" in the first sentence in paragraph #2 in post #196.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:26 pm#169
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 3:16 am
"Let me spell it out, since you apparently can’t understand that a scientist and a conservationist might not like this administration’s...."
Might not like? In other words you don't know. This man was your stepfather did you not know him well to know his politial
"So hold calling the media, because I admitted nothing"
Did you not admit that your excuse not to join right out of highschool was lame? Yes you did:
On not serving right out of high school (I was just 16) or at age 18, we’re even, Chickenhawk Twit, no matter how many times you try to spin it.
"it’s LAME, LAME, LAME!..."
And yours is just as lame, i.e. not joining out of highschool with your sick mother excuse. So like you said we are even. Again you can't call people who supported the 2003 Iraq invasion chickenhawks and not admit that those who supported the WW2 war effort, who chose not to serve BTW, are also chickenhawks. If you are able please explain the difference. BTW offering your OPINION that one war was noble and saying the other isn't can't be a vaild part of your explaination.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:46 pm#170
"1) This sentence is unintelligible."
Oh, do I need to explain why I made that statement? If you can’t remember…oh well.
"2) You offered a website, which doesn’t necessarily proved you worked there."
I gave you a phone number to call. I suggest you do it coward.
"And frankly, I don’t give a damn whether a chickenhawk twit like yourself believe me or not."
Well good because I don't belive for a second that what you have worked on is somehow "top secret". It might be useful but sure as hell isn't vital to national security.
"You’ve outed your own self as a hypocritical chickenhawk, and all your attempts to attack me and spin it won’t change that fact."
And you have outed yourself a conceited little girl that doesn't have the guts to admit that he choice not to join the military is nothing but another lame excuse.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pm#170
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 3:26 am
“1) This sentence is unintelligible.â€
Oh, do I need to explain why I made that statement? If you can’t remember…oh well.
“2) You offered a website, which doesn’t necessarily proved you worked there.â€
I gave you a phone number to call. I suggest you do it coward.
“And frankly, I don’t give a damn whether a chickenhawk twit like yourself believe me or not.â€
Well good because I don’t belive for a second that what you have worked on is somehow “top secretâ€. It might be useful but sure as hell isn’t vital to national security.
“You’ve outed your own self as a hypocritical chickenhawk, and all your attempts to attack me and spin it won’t change that fact.â€
And you have outed yourself a conceited little girl that doesn’t have the guts to admit that he choice not to join the military is nothing but another lame excuse.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pm#173
Comment by Wayne — July 12, 2007 @ 8:41 am
"Meanwhile these chickenhawks claim to support the troops yet do not condemn the GOP for the deplorable way they treat our wounded and veterans."
I have done it MULTIPLE times.
"Another thing these chickenhawkers make me sick with is their blatent bigotry."
I have seen peole do it here and it makes me angry and ill, but I personally have NEVER made a bigoted statment toward any of the peace loving Muslims in this country or abroad.
"Yes Tracy is a hypocrite."
There are alot of hypocrites in this blog...Lora being one of them.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:04 am#192
Comment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
So she turned 18 in 1998? Why didn't she join?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:11 am#173
Comment by Wayne — July 12, 2007 @ 8:41 am
Would you agree that all of those people that supported the U.S. effort in WW2 that didn't serve in the military chickenhawks?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:31 amPoor little Tracy just can't get over being called for the chickenhawk he is.
You didn't join after high school either, (and you didn't even have a mother recovering from cancer and weren't just 16--Are 16 year olds normally accepted into the military?) so give it up already. You support this war, but you think people like Wayne's sister should be fighting it--not you.
I notice ï½”hat your one answer to Wayne was very brief compared to your drawn-out rants against me. Too scared to take on a man who actually served in the military, Chickenhawk Twit?
As for WWII, there was a draft. Most fit men of a certain age range were drafted. Those who didn't serve usually were too old, too young, or physically or mentally unfit. Thus, your question about "chickenhawks" doesn't even apply. But if you're calling me a coward for not serving after high school, then you are almost admitting that you, your wife, the Bush brats, Dick Cheney and millions of other people are cowards.
Oh, so the Chickenhawk is calling me "coward" for not making a phone call, eh? Oh, it takes such courage to make a phone call--almost equivalent to going to Iraq, I suppose. Frankly I don't care enough about you or your record to spend the money on a long-distance call. I'd rather give several times those dollars to charity.
I only skimmed over all your bile. You really must be really mentally weak to get so upset over being called a "chickenhawk" by an anonymous woman you've never even met, poor baby twit. I stopped looking at the "Giuliani on Vietnam" thread, which I warned you of. So if you replied, you were only talking to thin air. I won't be looking at this again, Tracy Chickenhawk, so answer it at your own risk.
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Ps. Funny that you ask why Chelsea Clinton didn't join the military in peacetime, when you constantly defend the Bush brats and their various cousins for not setting a fine example by joining Dumbya's "noble cause."
July 14th, 2007 at 3:05 amThe biggest hypocrite here is you, big baby Chickenhawk Twit.
Ps. Tracy Chickenhawk-troll,
July 14th, 2007 at 5:52 amTo a certain extent, I thought you might show some sympathy to Wayne's severely wounded (in Iraq) sister, even if you don't like him. But, no, instead of even one word of sympathy, you just went on a few more repetitive rants against my lack of military service--something you don't have, either, Mr. Hypocrite. My only regret here is that I overestimated your humanity, which you obviously don't have. Shame on you, Chickenhawk Twit.
And as I already wrote, I won't be looking for your reply.
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Comment by Lora — July 14, 2007 @ 5:52 am
"and you didn’t even have a mother recovering from cancer and weren’t just 16–Are 16 year olds normally accepted into the military?) so give it up already"
You could have signed up when you tuned 18 and please stop it with your sick mother BS excuse.
"Too scared to take on a man who actually served in the military, Chickenhawk Twit?"
He makes sense and is not conceited like you. BTW he is not too brave to speak to me because he hasn't responed to my last couple of posts.
"Those who didn’t serve usually were too old, too young, or physically or mentally unfit."
Please read up on your history because there were alot who chose not to enlist for a variety of reasons. There were thousands of chickenhawks during WW2.
"But if you’re calling me a coward for not serving after high school, then you are almost admitting that you, your wife, the Bush brats, Dick Cheney and millions of other people are cowards."
Absolutely! I don't have a problem with admitting that my excuse was lame, but you are so conceited and cowardly that you won't. BTW your BS excuse for Chelsey Clinton is lame as is your personal one.
"Oh, it takes such courage to make a phone call–almost equivalent to going to Iraq, I suppose. "
Apparently to make a phone call is quite a bit more than you have.
"...when you constantly defend the Bush brats and their various cousins for not setting a fine example by joining Dumbya’s “noble cause.â€"
Name me one time I have EVER defended the Bush daughters. You little girl are a liar.
July 15th, 2007 at 9:49 pm#205
"To a certain extent, I thought you might show some sympathy to Wayne’s severely wounded (in Iraq) sister, even if you don’t like him"
He never mentioned to me this fact. BTW I don't like it when veterans or those who were against the 2003 Iraq invasion demand that we, who disagree with their postion think that they are entitled to respect, when they themselves show absolutely none.
Since your memory is so short...AGAIN, why don't you do a little research in this thread and pick up on the fact that well before all this debate about who served when and why they didn't, Wayne said that I had no business demanding that my elected representatives conduct themselves in office as I see fit, which if total crap on his part.
July 15th, 2007 at 10:02 pm