Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee “sharply criticized Michael Moore” and his new documentary SiCKO, suggesting that the filmmaker adds to the nation’s health care crisis by being overweight:
“Frankly, Michael Moore is an example of why the health care system costs so much in this country. He clearly is one of the reasons that we have a very expensive system. I know that from my own personal experience,” said Huckabee, who lost more than 110 pounds and became an avid runner after he was diagnosed with diabetes. […]
No comment could be obtained from Moore, but Meghan O’Hara, producer of “Sicko,” questioned Huckabee’s motives in criticizing Moore.
“Looks like Mike Huckabee is auditioning for some insurance company dough, since he’s raised just about no money and sparked zero interest since jumping into the race,” O’Hara said in a response provided by Moore’s production office. “I wonder what the good governor would say to the French, who drink more, smoke more, eat more cheese and still live longer than us despite paying less for health care?”
Huckabee, Huckabee… oh, right, he’s the one that made the comment about being in a Democratic concentration camp. Oh yeah, he’d be a great candidate…
July 11th, 2007 at 11:19 pmAlso the British. They think it funny how health-conscious us Americans are, yet they rated higher on every measure of health than us. Factoring out every variable, the study said it must be due to their universal healthcare.
And don’t go for Hillary’s or Edwards’ universal plan, because it would be extremely costly. Listen to Kucinich because his plan is single-payer and would SAVE us over $200 billion every year, administratively-alone.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:21 pm“Frankly, Michael Moore is an example of why the health care system costs so much in this country. He clearly is one of the reasons that we have a very expensive system. I know that from my own personal experience,†said Huckabee, who lost more than 110 pounds and became an avid runner after he was diagnosed with diabetes.
And you’re an example of why the mental health care system costs so much in this country , Mike Huckleberry ; anyone that laughably claims that dinosaurs and man co-existed is seriously delusional.
*Not to mention your belief that you will be elected president and would be a good one , too*
Yeah , about as “good” as the moron currently occupying the Oval Office…….
July 11th, 2007 at 11:22 pmListen to Kucinich because his plan is single-payer and would SAVE us over $200 billion every year, administratively-alone.
Comment by Keith G
Put a reasonable cost on the plan and include a wellness-benefit. If people make their marks - weight, blood pressure, kick a little back. Nothing s/b “for free”.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:23 pmYes it would be good to walk as much as Huckabee. It would also be terrific if we switched to the healthcare that every other developed country in the world has.
They do not have one single citizen without. We have 47 million without.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:24 pmWe spend at least twice as much per capita as them.
awww o’hara snapped back so snidely, just because huckabee is 110% right that big fat people like moore add to the healthcare cost in this country.
kind of ridiculous that a man who weighs over 400 lbs is telling us about healthcare. but then again, if i was choking down waffles and chicken and fries as often as moore i would want someone to pick up my heartattack tab too.
kind of like how moore bashes cheney for profitting off of haliburton because of the war and 9/11, and then buys stock in halliburton himself. also, no single american has made more money off of 9/11 then michael moore, the world’s #1 war profitier!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:25 pmWow, the party that hides behind everything, national pride, the troops, gays, now wants to hide behind Michael Moore!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:25 pmWhy would anyone question Huckabee’s motives?
Just because he is a politician!
All you Leftists get made when people question Moore’s motives, so why are you being so hypocritical?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:27 pmkind of ridiculous that a man who weighs over 400 lbs is telling us about healthcare.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
The above statement , written by a GOP/Chimpy backing stooge , who sees nothing wrong with chickenshit chickenhawks trying to tell the military how it should be run , and claiming they can “protect” America and all its citizens better ……
July 11th, 2007 at 11:29 pmkind of like how moore bashes cheney for profitting off of haliburton because of the war and 9/11, and then buys stock in halliburton himself. also, no single american has made more money off of 9/11 then michael moore, the world’s #1 war profitier!!!
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Wow!! What a bunch of stone gibberish from Hell! Please, please TRY and make sense, for your own sake. Keep piling up crap like this, you’ll confuse yourself completely after a while, and you’ll start to believe your own crap, dude!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:30 pmI had great health insurance for 15 years, then I got sick. Then I was without health care for 2 years suffering with a long term illness. Our health care system in the US sucks. My advice to those with insurance is don’t get sick.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pmLifestyle cannot be the reason we spend at least twice as much per capita as any other developed country in the world and still have worse health, because their lifestyles are worse than ours.
The study factored out all variables (I’m assuming you know what that means) and came up with the conclusion that it must be that our healthcare system is totally different from theirs.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pmWhy would anyone question Huckabee’s motives?
Just because he is a politician!
All you Leftists get made when people question Moore’s motives, so why are you being so hypocritical?
Comment by PiP — July 11, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
Why would Huckleberry ever give a damn about our health care system ?
He can always pray to get well , because “the Lord will provide” ; let the “Lord” provide for him or any of his mutt family members when they need a new kidney or liver , and leave health care to those that are interested in scientific caring of patients and not delusional rituals ……..
July 11th, 2007 at 11:32 pmyeah Moore is overweight…Along with 66% of this country.
scary thought
moores motives are to help people, help his country, not line his pockets.
you phat little trolls need to get out and walk moore.
lol
July 11th, 2007 at 11:32 pmMy advice to those with insurance is don’t get sick.
Comment by Vato
Works for me. I’m too scared to get sick!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:33 pmi mean liberals do this alot, try to speak on subjects they are foolishly wrong to speak on:
insanely rich edwards charges 50k to talk about POVERTY, gets $1250 haircuts, and talks about rebuilding New Orleans after he builds a castle for himself, maybe he could have skipped the second b-ball court and donated to Katrina victims???
hill and bill talking about terrorism when we had multiple unanswered attacks by al queada against this country under clintons watch, including the WTC and a daily briefing titled ‘bin laden determined to hijack airplanes’. leave the terror talk to hussein obama, at least he used to be a muslim.
fatty moore talking about healthcare. wa wa waaaaaa
harry reid talking about military strategy and questioning david patreus. lets see, one of these 2 men is a brilliant military mind who was number 1 in his class at west point and has a phd from princeton and the other is a wacky mormon weasal with no clue about foreign policy. hmmmmmm which is which???
July 11th, 2007 at 11:34 pmSenator Frist’s family made hundreds of millions of dollars from the profit in the US’s system.
Congressman Tauzin wrote the giveaway to the Pharmacuticals and then quickly went to work for them.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:35 pmClinton as gov of Ark was voted the best gov in the USA when the majority voting were Republican!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:36 pmthe other is a wacky mormon weasal with no clue about foreign policy. hmmmmmm which is which???
Comment by liberals destroyed america
What od you have against Mitt Romney??? For goodness sake, he has shoulders to die for!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:36 pmAll you Leftists get made when people question Moore’s motives, so why are you being so hypocritical?
Comment by PiP — July 11, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
You are right-I am “made”- So what is his motive ? We all get free health insurance and eat lots of bad food. Then have heart attacks and get free medical treatment. Am I getting close ? That evil ba$tard !
July 11th, 2007 at 11:37 pm#18 - I’m sorry, ummm, Romney?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:38 pmGosh darn that Clinton… prosperity, no deficit, no endless quagmire in Iraq. We are so much bettr off now!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
yea not like he left us in a recession, and economy that imploded in 2000, high taxes, and a blind eye to 17 terrorists who trained in flight schools while he was playing ‘hide the cigar’ with his chubby intern!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:38 pmhey liberals destroyed america,
while your at it, why dont you quit destroying the english language, and learn how to spell.
does bush provide computers for these trolls, because they seem too stupid to get here by themselves.
:)
July 11th, 2007 at 11:38 pmliberals destroyed america,
???
They haven’t utterly destroyed us yet, there is still hope.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:39 pmThese nut-case Lefties don’t have a firm grasp on reality or reason, they just really like to whine.
Yeah, kind of reminds me of rep. Foley talking about chasing down predators while chasing down congressional pageboys…
July 11th, 2007 at 11:39 pmquick questiong for ‘The Republic of Stupidity’
who knows more about foreign policy, barrack hussein allah akbar obama or general david patraeus????
July 11th, 2007 at 11:39 pmWell Mr. Huckabee, you keep our nation’s IQ down. Good lord..this man is a senator…if my jr. high students do this…..well….they’re 12, 13…..there really needs to be some sort of professional school just to become a Sen. How do these people slip through the cracks?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:40 pmand the other is a wacky mormon weasal with no clue about foreign policy. hmmmmmm which is which???
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Take that Mitt Romney !
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmComment by Joefriday — July 11, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
Michael Moore exploits your deluded hatred for America in every way possible in his films.
He doesn’t give a sh*t, as long as you Lefties will pay his bills!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmEdwards has about 10% of the money that Romney does and you are not calling him insanely rich. I call that biased.
If Edwards is insanely rich? What do you call the five Waltons who total $95 BILLION. That’s two thousand times Edwards.
*&^%$#@ hypocrite!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmBubbaJudge, isn’t time to stop calling bush dumb, i mean he did soundly beat you guys twice, and with approval ratings in the 20’s got the iraq war bill funded despite congress having a mandate to oppose him. seems to me that he is the most powerful president ever and you guys havent done jack to stop him, but yea he’s the dumby lolololololololol
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmits Petraeus, you Retard.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:42 pmHuckabee is like an obnoxious reformed smoker, only he is an obnoxious reformed fat person. He was Michael Moore until recently. He really is a PITA.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmharry reid talking about military strategy and questioning david patreus…… courtesy of liberals destroyed america
I know it’s a proper noun and all, but can you at least spell the name of your hero? PEtrAeus. Again, just pattern recognition. Similar to troll recognition. Highly dependent upon repetition.
PEtrAeus.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmThat’s right. Don’t have anything intelligent to say, so make it a personal attack..
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmI thought someone starting out poor and obtaining money in America was proof of how wonderful they were (sarcasm).
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmGen. Petraeus will know more about military strategy until his knowledge comes into conflict with Chimpy’s ego, at which point he’ll take his place in the line of all the other generals who have been fired for adhering to reality. Then he’ll just be an idiot.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:44 pmwho knows more about foreign policy, barrack hussein allah akbar obama or general david patraeus????
Comment by liberals destroyed america
False premise. Petraeus is a general. He knows about military affairs.
Petraeus will not be an elected official as long as he’s in the military. The next President of the country will be an elected official, unless the Deciderer declares himself “Emperor”. BTW, Bush knows NOTHING about military affairs, and he won’t listen to people like Powell and Shinsheki, who do.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:45 pmdumby lolololololololol
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
What does that say in binary ?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:45 pmLetterman just attributed Chertoff’s gut feeling to “bad Steak-Ums”.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pmseems to me that he is the most powerful president ever and you guys havent done jack to stop him, but yea he’s the dumby lolololololololol
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Well, he certainly is the most criminal ever.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pm“He can always pray to get well…”
Comment by MCMetal — July 11, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
On my way home from work tonight, I passed a local church that has a sign outside for upcoming events, etc. Tonight I noticed that it was promoting “Weight Loss through Faith”!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pmKeith G, hypocrite? Romney and the Waltons are not the ones making poverty their NUMBER ONE ISSUE. thats why Edwards and his $1250 haircuts are ridiculous, and why his campaign is in ruins.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:47 pmWhen Bush got 600,000 votes LESS than Gore, that was soundly beating him?
Get back on the healthcare topic.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:48 pmMichael Moore exploits your deluded hatred for America in every way possible in his films.
He doesn’t give a sh*t, as long as you Lefties will pay his bills!
Comment by PiP
Another irrational, strawman statement. Plese try to say something that comes CLOSE to making sense. NEXT!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:48 pm1,250? Wasn’t it 400? Do you work for the Defense Department?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:48 pmWhen Bush got 600,000 votes LESS than Gore, that was soundly beating him?
Comment by Keith G
Only in the fantasy life of trolls, Keith
July 11th, 2007 at 11:49 pmthats why Edwards and his $1250 haircuts are ridiculous, and why his campaign is in ruins.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:47
Take that John McInsane!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:49 pmThe Republic of Stupidity, then back it up and impeach him. c’mon call your congressman and impeach him. i dare the speaker to do it. nothing better for the republicans in 08 then an impeachment acquital and hillary rotten clinton!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:49 pmDo you work for the Defense Department?
Comment by Elliott
No, the GOP…
July 11th, 2007 at 11:50 pmKeith G, gore lost, it is time to deal with it, GORE LOST
July 11th, 2007 at 11:50 pmIt is horribly wrong the amount of poverty we have in the USA (increasing under every Repub and decreasing under every Democrat) and the fact that we have 47,000,000 with no healthcare.
But Moore’s film is about the middle class who don’t have enough coverage or who go bankrupt when something happens. Only in the USA, not in the rest of the developed world.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:51 pmThese Trolls are just parroting their enabler’s talking points. When you can’t debate facts, make it:
1-Personal
2-Question your target’s Patriotism
3-Question their Intelligence (since trools don’t have any brains to begin with)
4-Smear your target as Anti American, Anti Troops, Godless, Islamofacists or supporters of said misnomer.
5-Repeat ad nausem.
Solution:IGNORE THE TROOLS when possible, hit upside head with a 2×4 if you must (The Coultergeist solution).
July 11th, 2007 at 11:51 pmKeith G, gore lost, it is time to deal with it, GORE LOST
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
July 11th, 2007 at 11:51 pmClick your heels together and say that three times.
$400 haircut was before, now with the expenses of flying his stylist around and putting him up in hotels and such the total comes to $1250.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:52 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 11, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Well, if you don’t read the post I am responding to, it won’t make sense to you.
If you don’t understand, that is your own fault.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:52 pmSo it’s wrong for a wealthy, successful person to advocate for the poor? You should throw it all away and be homeless if you’re going to help the little people? King George never set foot on a battlefield. What business does he have making war and sending kids to die?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:53 pmI guess the Waltons are not complaining about poverty because they got *&^%$#@ $95 BILLION, you *&^%$#@ idiot!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:54 pmKeith G, gore lost, it is time to deal with it, GORE LOST
Comment by liberals destroyed america
The world is trying to deal with it. You’re obviously not. How can liberals destroy America if Bush is the most powerful president ever? Couldn’t He (capitalization intentional) have stopped it?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:54 pmJim Wolf359 , lets debate the facts, britains healthcare system has a 1 million person waiting list for treatment, with another 200,000 people waiting to get on the waiting list. the US provides the world with 80% of it medical innovations, technologies, and new treatments through its free market. doctors and nurses make double in this country what they make in canada. the average time for surgery like hip replacement in canada is 12 months on a waiting list. 4 months just to get an MRI in canada.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:56 pmThe Republic of Stupidity, then back it up and impeach him. c’mon call your congressman and impeach him. i dare the speaker to do it. nothing better for the republicans in 08 then an impeachment acquital and hillary rotten clinton!!!
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Yet another irrational, off-topic rant. I, personally, should impeach? It’s called, “the necessary votes”. When conservatives, such as General William Odom, the former head of the National Security Agency under President Reagan, start talking impeachment, you KNOW the noose is tightening around the Deciderer’s throat. It’s only a matter of time, son. BTW, please, please try to make ONE coherent statement here, for your own sake.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:56 pmHe doesn’t give a sh*t, as long as you Lefties will pay his bills!
Comment by PiP — July 11, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
I’m with pip on this-Moore just sent me his dry cleaninng bill-I am sick of paying his bills!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:57 pmI didn’t bring up the 2000 election. Some idiot did. They said that losing by 600,000 votes was soundly beating your opponent. I couldn’t keep quiet. Can’t you people read and comprehend anything?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:57 pmMoore has nothing to worry about from Huckabee attacking him. Nobody likes Huck so he can spew crap and nobody gives a f–k.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pmhey , Joe and Pip
mind paying my 20k Iraq bill?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pmComment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
You cite some interesting, if true, numbers. Can you back that up with any links? Where did you find all this out?
And must everything in this country be about how much money you can make? Would you rather be operated on by a surgeon who does it for the money, or one who cares about whether or not you live or die?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pmMoore just sent me his dry cleaninng bill-I am sick of paying his bills!
Comment by Joefriday — July 11, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
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I bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:00 amIf having 1% fewer votes than your opponent is soundly beating him, what do you call November 2006 when the Dems won by 11.7%?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 ama blind eye to 17 terrorists who trained in flight schools while he was playing ‘hide the cigar’ with his chubby intern!
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Yeah, right, like Richard Clarke didn’t try over and over and over again to tell Condi about this coming at us. What did Condi say. after several dozen attempts by Clark? No one could have… blah, blah, blah…
Yet ANOTHER dishonest, irrational statement. NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 ama dinosaur bit me and jesus healed the wound. it was a miracle.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 amhey , Joe and Pip
mind paying my 20k Iraq bill?
Comment by BubbaJudge — July 11, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
PLEASE do not put me in the same paragraph with Pi$$
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 amOh, wait, LDA. Let me answer my own question for you.
Oops.
We have some nice parting gifts for you. Some JiffyPop, and the TP home game. Better luck next time. Tschuss.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 amRE: Huckabee’s comments about M. Moore.
Just put up a picture of Huckabee’s kids. If he is insulting Moore for being fat, what is he saying about his own family?
Family Values?
Do unto others?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 am“I bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!”
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:00 am
When was the last time you were in MM’s underwear?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amLike their swiftboat predecessors, they can ONLY make personal attacks.
The ‘cons have NOTHING to brag about. They are bullies, and bullies focus on trivial, personal matters instead of issues.
Defy them, dismiss them, boldly confront them with facts, and demand they focus on issues.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amI am calling foul.
Lame Trolls
Lame Trolls
a 400 dollar haircut and fat, and dry cleaning bills is all you got?
sheeesh, i need to head back to the Britney forum.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amI bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Eat it up PiP.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amHuckabee thinks The Flintstones was a documentary.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amseems huckabee could be sympathetic enough
to congratulate michael moore for loosing over 30lbs…
it’s a sure bet that the idjits here complaining about
moore don’t have the balls to even go see this movie,
or any of the others… change is scary…
even scarier is having to admit a mistake…
$1250 haircuts??? … man, the rumor mill is in overdrive…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 am…
marlow , he didnt make war, he liberated 50 million people from 2 of the worlds most tyranical and muderous regimes in saddam and the taliban.
liberals say ‘oh we should just have contained saddam’ without caring about the iraqi people. thats like saying ‘ well theres a serial killer in that house with a family, but he’s contained so just leave him in there’. what happened to the humanitarian left that cares so much for people all over the world, except of course where bush wants to go.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 amYeah P,
How are you knowledgeable about his underwear?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 ama dinosaur bit me really bad, but jesus healed the wound. it was a miracle.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 am# 62, Care to back that up with FACTS an LINKS those facts? Or are you just pulling your talking points out of your ass like Bush and Huckelberry do?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 amWe have some nice parting gifts for you. Some JiffyPop, and the TP home game. Better luck next time. Tschuss.
Comment by Elliott — July 12, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Don’t forget the year’s supply of Turtle Wax.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 amLiberals destroyed our Fascist State,
mike, is that you?
or do all the koolaiders sound the same these days?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 amWayne A. Schneider , well under paying teachers hasn’t worked out so well for us so i dont think we should start underpaying doctors and nurses, i know i dont want doctors who turn out like our teachers in this country.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 amOh yeah, the Turtle Wax. He’ll need that if it ever comes out of its shell!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 amI thought someone starting out poor and obtaining money in America was proof of how wonderful they were (sarcasm).
Comment by Keith G — July 11, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
it’s the “american dream”… he’s a self made success story…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 amjealous troolls…
Well, if you don’t read the post I am responding to, it won’t make sense to you.
If you don’t understand, that is your own fault.
Comment by PiP
WTF are you talking about? If I don’t read the post you’re responding to? Please, for your own sake, try to MAKE sense.
Of course, if you end up not making sense, I guess that’s YOUR fault.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 amPoor dude is 20 posts behind. *hamster wheel turning*
July 12th, 2007 at 12:08 amStock market under Clinton up 350%.
22 million jobs created (Bush 4 million).
unemployment from 7.5% down to 3.9%
Clinton from record deficits to record surpluses
BushII from record surpluses to new record deficits
US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
July 12th, 2007 at 12:08 amHe made a war, you dolt. And ask the Afghanis how liberated they’re feeling, cowering in their mud huts from the Taliban and the warlords. Iraqi’s liberated? Yeah, the earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, and little dancing fairies send you off to sleep at night.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 12:07 am
What am I talking about?
Well, if you don’t read the post I am responding to, it won’t make sense to you.
If you don’t understand, that is your own fault.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 am“liberals say ‘oh we should just have contained saddam’ without caring about the iraqi people.”
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:04 am
And now conservatives are calling everyone fighting the US troops in Iraq “Al Qaeda” as an excuse to kill as many of those same ‘liberated’ Iraqis as possible.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 amliberals say ‘oh we should just have contained saddam’ without caring about the iraqi people. thats like saying ‘ well theres a serial killer in that house with a family, but he’s contained so just leave him in there’. what happened to the humanitarian left that cares so much for people all over the world, except of course where bush wants to go.
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Yet ANOTHER irrational, dishonest statement. “Caring about the Iraqi people”??? WTF??? Sweet Tapdancing Jesus, Bru$chCo refused to even count the number of dead at one point. What an A**HOLE you are. NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 am““I wonder what the good governor would say to the French, who drink more, smoke more, eat more cheese and still live longer than us despite paying less for health care?â€
They do? I’d like to ask you “believe everything” liberals how that is possible? Who pays for it?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 amDon’t forget the year’s supply of Turtle Wax.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
And the sugar beet, Wayne. The extra-large, irregularly-shaped sugar beet.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 am“I bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!â€
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:00 am
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July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 amHEyOOOOOooooooooooOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I smell smoked troll. Can I help?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 amWell, if you don’t read the post I am responding to, it won’t make sense to you.
If you don’t understand, that is your own fault.
Comment by PiP
Decide it’s easier to talk in circles, heh? Go w/ it, it’s working for you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 amComment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 am
I asked you four questions and you did not answer a single one. Instead, you jumped to another subject.
Answer my questions:
1) Do you have any links to back up those numbers you posted?
2) Where did you hear this?
3) Must everything in this country be about making money?
4) Would you rather be operated on by someone who does it for the money, or someone who cares about whether or not you live or die?
This is known as “having a discussion” and I am trying to do this with you in earnest. If you’re not interested in that, then I’ll assume you made everything up.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 amIn the film, the British doctor has a $1 million house and two luxury cars.
When Consumer Reports says the US would save $250 Billion each and every year administratively-alone, they mean:
ADMINISTRATIVELY-ALONE
That does not include doctors’ pay.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 am“US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007″
Blow jobs in the Oval Office?
Clinton = at least 1
Bush = 0
You liberals must be proud?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 amWho is Mike Huckabee?
Is he from one of those weight loss reality shows?
mmmmmm
Or …is he in the same biz as Ted Haggerd?
Jack Jett
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 amhttp://www.jackejett.com
Holy crap! There’s more than one! What do we do? Dumbest, or most recent?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 amI think he made it all up Wayne. Not that I’m surprised. I challenged “liberals destroyed america’ as well. No response from the moron.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 am“doctors and nurses make double in this country what they make in canada.”
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
“i dont think we should start underpaying doctors and nurses, i know i dont want doctors who turn out like our teachers in this country.”
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Hmmm, double, or underpaying? No happy medium? And teachers in this country are definitely underpaid if you’re an example of our school system. Ever hear of beginning a sentence with a capital letter?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 amThey do? I’d like to ask you “believe everything†liberals how that is possible? Who pays for it?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:11 am
The Lord works in strange and miraculous ways.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:16 amWho pays for it?
Comment by michael
Could be they pay “less” simply because they don’t have greedy ins company execs in the chain taking home billion-dollar-a-yr bonuses.
Just might have a little sumpin to do w/ it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:16 amYou liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:14 am
I know I am!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 am#108 - backtracking, he’s been flailing since the 60s (posts, that is). Is that what is called an exit strategy?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 amYou liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael
A totally irrational, disconnected statement. What does ONE hummer in the WH have to do w/ the cost of healthcare? NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:18 amIs that what is called an exit strategy?
Comment by Retrogrouch
Exit strategy - is that a polite way of saying, “Soiling his Depends”?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 amBlow jobs in the Oval Office?
Clinton = at least 1
Bush = 0
You liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael
Hmmm. A BJ versus indiscriminate genocide. Excellent point.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 amRetrogrouch-I guess for them it is. The Trolls on this board aren’t too bright.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 amThe simple fact is, Michael Moore wants to have his cake and eat it too (he really wants to eat it too).
If he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 am#117 My visions of the rugged individualists are sadly dashed. Gee thanks. Now what can I aspire to?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 am“US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007″
“US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007″
Blow jobs in the Oval Office?
Clinton = at least 1
Bush = 0
You liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:14 am
You’re comparing troop deaths with BLOW JOBS?! You’re a sicker a$$wipe than we already thought. Ann must be real proud, but she’d be the only one.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 amWho pays for it?
Comment by michael
The USA has a tremendously huge extra layer of bureaucracy that the rest of the world does not. If there are 2,000 health insurers in the US, each with single, plus spouse, or plus children; and either “silver” or “gold”—-then that is 12,000 plans.
Whenever an American needs healthcare it is an unbelieveable bureaucratic nightmare trying to figure out what they can or cannot have and who pays what % or what.
American automakers are moving to Canada because US healthcare adds too much to the cost of each car, leaving no room for profit.
People in the US are stuck in lousy jobs for fear of changing and losing benefits.
In the rest of the world, there is no “pre-existing condition” or special pre-approval. You get what you need.
I lived in Britain 12 years and I would rather have their system. Even if you do have to wait 12 months for hip-replacement. Better than losing your house due to car accident.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 am“3) Must everything in this country be about making money?
4) Would you rather be operated on by someone who does it for the money, or someone who cares about whether or not you live or die?
This is known as “having a discussion†and I am trying to do this with you in earnest. If you’re not interested in that, then I’ll assume you made everything up.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007″
It’s unfortunate wayne that you don’t understand that yes, everything in this world is about money! Wake up? I don’t care what your nationality is, it’s all about MONEY! Everybody wants it and everybody wants more of it! If you don’t, I wouldn’t want to be dependent on you!
To answer # 4, BOTH! When Physicians gain a reputation for being good at what they do, just like lawyers who defend the indefensible, they make more money! Wayne, this is pure Capitalism! If you don’t feel comfortable with this system, there is no chance that you are going to change it. People from all over the world come to this country, that you hate so much, for a piece of the pie! Maybe you would be happier in North Korea, China, Cuba?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 amNo problem there PiP. The problem with you and the rest of the Troll Patrol is that you don’t back up with facts very well, if at all. They seem to be a bit inconvienent for you and your Reich Wing friends.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 amone last thought…
it’s a pretty safe bet that if huckabee was just a “regular joe”
he would NOT have lost his own 100 lbs… he was able to
schedule his workouts and training - no doubt with a
personal trainer/therapist and the advice from the best
doctors… there’s just no way to justify this slur…
and, yea, the guy doesn’t even believe in evolution…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amtotally discredited… totally irrelavent…
or should be…
If he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Nice to see you’re still with us.
Not so sure he’s criticizing America, just its bloated hyperelitistcapitalist culture. A small difference. Bush’s approval less than 30% - Is that really America? You must have a hard time dealing with yourself - your cohorts typically don’t suffer minorities well.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amHe actually compared 1 bj to the one million human lives lost in Iraq and the $2.3 Trillion it will cost American taxpayers.
I don’t believe it.
And the war has HELPED our enemy.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amIf he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Comment by PiP
There’s a difference between criticizing the documentary in a rational, intelligent manner, which AIN”t happening here, and personally attacking the man because you don’t like the message, which is happening here.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amIf he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:21 am
First of all, he was making a documentary about the for-profit healthcare system in this country, not the country as a whole. And how does that he make him an “open target”? That is not logical. C’mon, PiP, I know you’re smarter than that.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 amIf he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Hey $hit for brains-He has critiqued the American health care system-Not the USA. Your as dumb as they get.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 amAn extreme state of denial Keith G. Thats the only possible explanation for it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 amMy, my, my. These people sure do worry an AWFUL lot about Micheal Moore, don’t they.
They doth protest too much, I think.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 amTake your turtlewax and jiffypop and go. Or would you like to leave America’s favorite game show, Smoke that Troll, owing money?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:28 amIt’s unfortunate wayne that you don’t understand that yes, everything in this world is about money! Wake up? I don’t care what your nationality is, it’s all about MONEY! Everybody wants it and everybody wants more of it! If you don’t, I wouldn’t want to be dependent on you!
To answer # 4, BOTH! When Physicians gain a reputation for being good at what they do, just like lawyers who defend the indefensible, they make more money! Wayne, this is pure Capitalism! If you don’t feel comfortable with this system, there is no chance that you are going to change it. People from all over the world come to this country, that you hate so much, for a piece of the pie! Maybe you would be happier in North Korea, China, Cuba?
Comment by michael
Wayne, there’s no point in trying to reach this person. he’s so convinced of his “rightness” that he will never hear anything anyone else says.
EVERYTHING is about money? I feel sorry for you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 am#
marlow , he didnt make war, he liberated 50 million people from 2 of the worlds most tyranical and muderous regimes in saddam and the taliban.
liberals say ‘oh we should just have contained saddam’ without caring about the iraqi people. thats like saying ‘ well theres a serial killer in that house with a family, but he’s contained so just leave him in there’. what happened to the humanitarian left that cares so much for people all over the world, except of course where bush wants to go.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Liberated 50 million, hah.. He has pissed off 50+ million people. Let’s take a look at Iraq, appx 27 million before the war, almost a million dead, more to die because of starvation, lack of medical care, water. Then there are 3 million refugees. Iraqi’s are dying or leaving at a faster rate. This is what you call liberation? This is what sane people call worse than Saddam. Things are so bad all most all of the coalition of the willing have left Iraq, and many are realizing that Afghanistan (the silent war) is lost and want to pull out.
Now let’s expand on that pissing 50+ million people off, the reason other countries are pulling out of Iraq is their “people” demanded it. Soon we’ll be all alone fighting this war on terra. So now America is alone, other people from other countries stop buying our products, (what few that are still made here now) they stop traveling here, they stop trading in the dollar, just what America doesn’t need is more job loss, and less money. Look at the failed soviet union for what happens to a country that becomes isolationist, living a war based economy in a world that for the most part doesn’t want war, only those who profit from it, and those that kill over who’s god has a bigger _____.
You trolls are seriously stupid for thinking we liberated any one. The only thing liberated was our tax dollars from our accounts into the war makers.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 amC’mon, PiP, I know you’re smarter than that.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
You might want to reconsider that statement.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 amMy, my, my. These people sure do worry an AWFUL lot about Micheal Moore, don’t they.
They doth protest too much, I think.
Comment by JPV — July 12, 2007 @ 12:27 am
And don’t foreget blow jobs-they worry a lot about that also.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 amComment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:24 am
A) I wasn’t addressing you, I was addressing the person who posted some unbelievable numbers, and
B) I don’t really care what you think. You obviously know little or nothing about me (such as the fact that served my country in the United States Air Force for more than five years. Have you ever worn a military uniform, other than posing for pictures?)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 amComment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Oh, are you talking to me?
First of all I was making a comment about Michael Moore, not the Lefties (for a change). Secondly, if someone puts their opinion out there for the world to see, he becomes an open target.
Case in point - your criticism of my comment.
Perfectly logical.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:31 am“The USA has a tremendously huge extra layer of bureaucracy that the rest of the world does not”
What a stupid statement! There is NO extra layer of bureaucracy with my health care company. I file a claim and it’s taken care of. I have had cancer twice and never had to wait more than a few days before I was on an operating table. You think something like that can happen that quickly in Canada, England, Norway, or your beloved France?
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007
July 12th, 2007 at 12:31 amMr. Schneider -
Agree with #135. Don’t make me dig up some Simoniz for you ;)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:32 amYour as dumb as they get.
Comment by Joefriday — July 12, 2007 @ 12:26 am
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What about my “as dumb as they get”?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:32 amtrolls are driven to be the elite party. They relish the tought of a NeoCon Market Driven world because they still believe the lie of the American Dream. The are but beggers to their own demise.
There was a time when they would have been house slaves or sympathisers. now they are trolls.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 amPerhaps Huckabee worked a deal with a health care insurance company — trashing “Sicko” in exchange for providing him with a special exception, allowing him to purchase health care coverage, despite having a disqualifying condition (i.e., diabetes)?
By the way, for those who blindly believe that the United States has the best health care system in the world (caveat — only for those who are extremely wealthy), please identify by name the other industrialized countries that have scrapped their system to adopt one resembling ours.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 am“Have you ever worn a military uniform, other than posing for pictures?)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007″
wayne, have you been drinking tonight? We have been through this before. I served 5 years in the USN in the 60’s & 70’s! Put down the bottle!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 amWhat a stupid statement! There is NO extra layer of bureaucracy with my health care company. I file a claim and it’s taken care of. I have had cancer twice and never had to wait more than a few days before I was on an operating table. You think something like that can happen that quickly in Canada, England, Norway, or your beloved France?
Comment by Keith G
and that’s what it’s all about keith, you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 amComment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:31 am
First of all I was making a comment about Michael Moore, not the Lefties (for a change).
You were making an inaccurate statement about Michael Moore.
Secondly, if someone puts their opinion out there for the world to see, he becomes an open target.
Case in point - You.
Perfectly logical, unlike your comments.
I’m trying to be nice to you, PiP. You do see that, don’t you?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:35 amAnd the war has HELPED our enemy.
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 12:25 am
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The things you guys say sometimes makes me thing you’re a bunch of pranksters!!!
Then I realize that you are serious, and I think you need some serious help.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:35 amClassic ad hominem attack. Huckabee can’t deal with the facts in Moore’s film, so he has to issue a personal attack. So predictable.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 am“The are but beggers to their own demise.
There was a time when they would have been house slaves or sympathisers. now they are trolls.
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007″
willy, I have finally realized that you are nothing but an uneducated (probably attended public schools) DOPE!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 amThe large government/corporate cabal has unfortunately convinced many U.S. citizens, who are already financially strapped, that somehow the increased taxes necessary to finance single payer universal health care coverage would be IN ADDITION to the already astronomical health care costs we already pay. Look for the MSM to avoid any mention that the increased taxes would REPLACE rather than ADD to our current health care costs. Would you be willing to pay somewhat higher taxes if you could then stop paying health insurance premiums, deductibles, co-pays, non-covered expenses, etc. and could also stop worrying that your insurance company might drop you or find a loophole to avoid providing coverage (such as your forgetting to mention that you had chickenpox as a child on your application)?
According to the World Health Organization website, of all major countries of the world, the United States spends by far the highest percentage of its gross domestic product on health care costs (15.4%). The next highest country (minimum population — 10,000,000) is Germany with a percentage figure of 10.6%. France (10.3%) is lower still and the Scandinavian countries are below 10%.
If the United States were to emulate Germany, the percentage difference of 4.8% multiplied by the U. S. gross domestic product ($13,244,550,000,000 in 2006, according to the IMF), would result in a gross savings of $635,738,400,000, which is more than four times the amount spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. If this figure is then divided by the estimated current population of the United States of 302,311,374, the result would be a savings of $2102.93 for every man, woman and child in this country. Could you put an extra $2102.93 per person per year in your household to good use?
Under a system such as Germany’s, we would no longer have 46,000,000 people without health insurance and at the same time could save a considerable amount of money. The downside would be that CEOs such as Bill McGuire of United Healthcare might not be able to replicate his performance of 2005, receiving $124,000,000 in salary along with stock options worth more than $1.7 billion (according to forbes.com) — so you would have that thought weighing on your conscience.
There is a better way.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 amComment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Well, forgive me for not having everyone’s bios memorized.
Thank you for your service to our country.
And, for the record, I don’t drink. There, now you learned something else about me.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 amMike Kukabee. A failed governor from a small state.
Shut up and eat.
-GSD
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 am“Huckabee can’t deal with the facts in Moore’s film
Comment by PaulB — July 12, 2007″
What facts?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 amMichael Moore may be a heavyweight, but the Huckster is definitely a lightweight.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:38 amwayne, have you been drinking tonight? We have been through this before. I served 5 years in the USN in the 60’s & 70’s! Put down the bottle! comment by michael
so what? you were drafted and dug holes for a few years. and now this makes you what?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 amre 139
If you need immediate care in the rest of the world, then you get it. Our extra layer of bureaucracy explains why we spend at least twice as much per capita–even when 47,000,000 are paying zero.
In Britain, I needed an appendectomy immediately and I got it. I did not pay a penny other than the $10 per week that came out of my paycheck.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 am“Huckabee can’t deal with the facts in Moore’s film
Comment by PaulB — July 12, 2007″
What facts?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:37 am
The whole movie ……………..
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amI have finally realized that you are nothing but an uneducated (probably attended public schools) DOPE!
Comment by michael
The same schools that your old men defunded because only the wealthy are entitled to a quality education? All part of the cycle, I guess - more likely to vote for ‘Pubes. Make sure they have easy access to guns and take the cops off of the street while you’re at it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amWhat facts?
Comment by michael
Just out of curiosity, have yu seen the film?
(It’s a yes or no question, BTW…)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amOh, USN…my bad…you mopped a deck for 5 years
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amwayne, have you been drinking tonight? We have been through this before. I served 5 years in the USN in the 60’s & 70’s! Put down the bottle! comment by michael
so what? you were drafted and dug holes for a few years. and now this makes you what?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 12:39 am
An aging hole-digger ………….
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amI’m trying to be nice to you, PiP. You do see that, don’t you?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 12:35 am
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Sure!
I criticize Moore, you criticize my criticism of Moore, I criticize your criticism of my criticism of Moore, you criticize my criticism of your criticism of my criticism of Moore, and now I agree that you are trying to be nice.
:)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amYou might want to reconsider that statement.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Well I never said how much!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amyou see the film Michael?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:41 amI did not pay an extra penny for my root canal in Britain. In the USA I have paid a lot for “excellent” health plans that did not cover dental at all. Ditto for optometric. And some of you trolls out there may not have your mental health issues covered.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 amComment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 12:40 am
No link to your blog? What happened?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:43 am“Wayne, there’s no point in trying to reach this person. he’s so convinced of his “rightness†that he will never hear anything anyone else says.
EVERYTHING is about money? I feel sorry for you.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007″
Is there an alternative THAT YOU PRACTICE? I’d love to hear about it and how many glasses of kool aide it takes to believe it?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:43 amI have lived in Japan, whose citizens enjoy among the highest rates of longevity in the world. (I believe it’s highest for women and second highest for men.) Health care is not free, but the National Health Insurance and other company or workplace insurance plans usually pay for 70% of medical bills. Very few Japanese lose their homes because of medical expenses.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 amyou see the film Michael?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Yeah , right.
These GOP/Chimpy backing stooges don’t need to see no stinkin’ movie ; they have “God” on their side …….
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I can’t even type that without cracking up.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 amComment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:35 am
According to the 16 intelligence agencies of the USA and every study in the world, the war in Iraq has INCREASED TERRORISM. Do you have more info than they do? No, then STFU!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 amIs there an alternative THAT YOU PRACTICE? I’d love to hear about it and how many glasses of kool aide it takes to believe it?
Comment by michael
Totally empty comment, as usual.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 am“so what? you were drafted and dug holes for a few years. and now this makes you what?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007″
Unlike you willy, I was a man and JOINED! What have you done for your country? I’d like to know?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 amComment by curmudgeon — July 12, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Thanks for the info, excellent post!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 amjust remembered something else… heh…
i was working today at a delivery business, talking with an
acquaintence who works there, making deliveries…
he told me he’s seen SICKO, and what a profound affect
it had on him… he said he’s talked to the workers at his stops,
telling them how urgent it is that they watch this movie -
they’ll growl and moan, sputter the usual limpball rhetoric,
but mostly they object because, they say, universal healthcare
is “socialist”… south-central illinois reporting…
g’nite…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 am