Huckabee takes personal shot at Michael Moore.
Huckabee takes personal shot at Michael Moore.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee “sharply criticized Michael Moore” and his new documentary SiCKO, suggesting that the filmmaker adds to the nation’s health care crisis by being overweight:
“Frankly, Michael Moore is an example of why the health care system costs so much in this country. He clearly is one of the reasons that we have a very expensive system. I know that from my own personal experience,” said Huckabee, who lost more than 110 pounds and became an avid runner after he was diagnosed with diabetes. [...]
No comment could be obtained from Moore, but Meghan O’Hara, producer of “Sicko,” questioned Huckabee’s motives in criticizing Moore.
“Looks like Mike Huckabee is auditioning for some insurance company dough, since he’s raised just about no money and sparked zero interest since jumping into the race,” O’Hara said in a response provided by Moore’s production office. “I wonder what the good governor would say to the French, who drink more, smoke more, eat more cheese and still live longer than us despite paying less for health care?”
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Huckabee, Huckabee... oh, right, he's the one that made the comment about being in a Democratic concentration camp. Oh yeah, he'd be a great candidate...
July 11th, 2007 at 11:19 pmAlso the British. They think it funny how health-conscious us Americans are, yet they rated higher on every measure of health than us. Factoring out every variable, the study said it must be due to their universal healthcare.
And don't go for Hillary's or Edwards' universal plan, because it would be extremely costly. Listen to Kucinich because his plan is single-payer and would SAVE us over $200 billion every year, administratively-alone.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:21 pm“Frankly, Michael Moore is an example of why the health care system costs so much in this country. He clearly is one of the reasons that we have a very expensive system. I know that from my own personal experience,†said Huckabee, who lost more than 110 pounds and became an avid runner after he was diagnosed with diabetes.
And you're an example of why the mental health care system costs so much in this country , Mike Huckleberry ; anyone that laughably claims that dinosaurs and man co-existed is seriously delusional.
*Not to mention your belief that you will be elected president and would be a good one , too*
Yeah , about as "good" as the moron currently occupying the Oval Office.......
July 11th, 2007 at 11:22 pmListen to Kucinich because his plan is single-payer and would SAVE us over $200 billion every year, administratively-alone.
Comment by Keith G
Put a reasonable cost on the plan and include a wellness-benefit. If people make their marks - weight, blood pressure, kick a little back. Nothing s/b "for free".
July 11th, 2007 at 11:23 pmYes it would be good to walk as much as Huckabee. It would also be terrific if we switched to the healthcare that every other developed country in the world has.
They do not have one single citizen without. We have 47 million without.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:24 pmWe spend at least twice as much per capita as them.
awww o'hara snapped back so snidely, just because huckabee is 110% right that big fat people like moore add to the healthcare cost in this country.
kind of ridiculous that a man who weighs over 400 lbs is telling us about healthcare. but then again, if i was choking down waffles and chicken and fries as often as moore i would want someone to pick up my heartattack tab too.
kind of like how moore bashes cheney for profitting off of haliburton because of the war and 9/11, and then buys stock in halliburton himself. also, no single american has made more money off of 9/11 then michael moore, the world's #1 war profitier!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:25 pmWow, the party that hides behind everything, national pride, the troops, gays, now wants to hide behind Michael Moore!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:25 pmWhy would anyone question Huckabee's motives?
Just because he is a politician!
All you Leftists get made when people question Moore's motives, so why are you being so hypocritical?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:27 pmkind of ridiculous that a man who weighs over 400 lbs is telling us about healthcare.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
The above statement , written by a GOP/Chimpy backing stooge , who sees nothing wrong with chickenshit chickenhawks trying to tell the military how it should be run , and claiming they can "protect" America and all its citizens better ......
July 11th, 2007 at 11:29 pmkind of like how moore bashes cheney for profitting off of haliburton because of the war and 9/11, and then buys stock in halliburton himself. also, no single american has made more money off of 9/11 then michael moore, the world’s #1 war profitier!!!
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Wow!! What a bunch of stone gibberish from Hell! Please, please TRY and make sense, for your own sake. Keep piling up crap like this, you'll confuse yourself completely after a while, and you'll start to believe your own crap, dude!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:30 pmI had great health insurance for 15 years, then I got sick. Then I was without health care for 2 years suffering with a long term illness. Our health care system in the US sucks. My advice to those with insurance is don't get sick.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pmLifestyle cannot be the reason we spend at least twice as much per capita as any other developed country in the world and still have worse health, because their lifestyles are worse than ours.
The study factored out all variables (I'm assuming you know what that means) and came up with the conclusion that it must be that our healthcare system is totally different from theirs.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pmWhy would anyone question Huckabee’s motives?
Just because he is a politician!
All you Leftists get made when people question Moore’s motives, so why are you being so hypocritical?
Comment by PiP — July 11, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
Why would Huckleberry ever give a damn about our health care system ?
He can always pray to get well , because "the Lord will provide" ; let the "Lord" provide for him or any of his mutt family members when they need a new kidney or liver , and leave health care to those that are interested in scientific caring of patients and not delusional rituals ........
July 11th, 2007 at 11:32 pmyeah Moore is overweight...Along with 66% of this country.
scary thought
moores motives are to help people, help his country, not line his pockets.
you phat little trolls need to get out and walk moore.
lol
July 11th, 2007 at 11:32 pmMy advice to those with insurance is don’t get sick.
Comment by Vato
Works for me. I'm too scared to get sick!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:33 pmi mean liberals do this alot, try to speak on subjects they are foolishly wrong to speak on:
insanely rich edwards charges 50k to talk about POVERTY, gets $1250 haircuts, and talks about rebuilding New Orleans after he builds a castle for himself, maybe he could have skipped the second b-ball court and donated to Katrina victims???
hill and bill talking about terrorism when we had multiple unanswered attacks by al queada against this country under clintons watch, including the WTC and a daily briefing titled 'bin laden determined to hijack airplanes'. leave the terror talk to hussein obama, at least he used to be a muslim.
fatty moore talking about healthcare. wa wa waaaaaa
harry reid talking about military strategy and questioning david patreus. lets see, one of these 2 men is a brilliant military mind who was number 1 in his class at west point and has a phd from princeton and the other is a wacky mormon weasal with no clue about foreign policy. hmmmmmm which is which???
July 11th, 2007 at 11:34 pmSenator Frist's family made hundreds of millions of dollars from the profit in the US's system.
Congressman Tauzin wrote the giveaway to the Pharmacuticals and then quickly went to work for them.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:35 pmClinton as gov of Ark was voted the best gov in the USA when the majority voting were Republican!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:36 pmthe other is a wacky mormon weasal with no clue about foreign policy. hmmmmmm which is which???
Comment by liberals destroyed america
What od you have against Mitt Romney??? For goodness sake, he has shoulders to die for!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:36 pmAll you Leftists get made when people question Moore’s motives, so why are you being so hypocritical?
Comment by PiP — July 11, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
You are right-I am "made"- So what is his motive ? We all get free health insurance and eat lots of bad food. Then have heart attacks and get free medical treatment. Am I getting close ? That evil ba$tard !
July 11th, 2007 at 11:37 pm#18 - I'm sorry, ummm, Romney?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:38 pmGosh darn that Clinton… prosperity, no deficit, no endless quagmire in Iraq. We are so much bettr off now!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
yea not like he left us in a recession, and economy that imploded in 2000, high taxes, and a blind eye to 17 terrorists who trained in flight schools while he was playing 'hide the cigar' with his chubby intern!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:38 pmhey liberals destroyed america,
while your at it, why dont you quit destroying the english language, and learn how to spell.
does bush provide computers for these trolls, because they seem too stupid to get here by themselves.
:)
July 11th, 2007 at 11:38 pmliberals destroyed america,
???
They haven't utterly destroyed us yet, there is still hope.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:39 pmThese nut-case Lefties don't have a firm grasp on reality or reason, they just really like to whine.
Yeah, kind of reminds me of rep. Foley talking about chasing down predators while chasing down congressional pageboys...
July 11th, 2007 at 11:39 pmquick questiong for 'The Republic of Stupidity'
who knows more about foreign policy, barrack hussein allah akbar obama or general david patraeus????
July 11th, 2007 at 11:39 pmWell Mr. Huckabee, you keep our nation's IQ down. Good lord..this man is a senator...if my jr. high students do this.....well....they're 12, 13.....there really needs to be some sort of professional school just to become a Sen. How do these people slip through the cracks?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:40 pmand the other is a wacky mormon weasal with no clue about foreign policy. hmmmmmm which is which???
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Take that Mitt Romney !
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmComment by Joefriday — July 11, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
Michael Moore exploits your deluded hatred for America in every way possible in his films.
He doesn't give a sh*t, as long as you Lefties will pay his bills!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmEdwards has about 10% of the money that Romney does and you are not calling him insanely rich. I call that biased.
If Edwards is insanely rich? What do you call the five Waltons who total $95 BILLION. That's two thousand times Edwards.
*&^%$#@ hypocrite!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmBubbaJudge, isn't time to stop calling bush dumb, i mean he did soundly beat you guys twice, and with approval ratings in the 20's got the iraq war bill funded despite congress having a mandate to oppose him. seems to me that he is the most powerful president ever and you guys havent done jack to stop him, but yea he's the dumby lolololololololol
July 11th, 2007 at 11:41 pmits Petraeus, you Retard.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:42 pmHuckabee is like an obnoxious reformed smoker, only he is an obnoxious reformed fat person. He was Michael Moore until recently. He really is a PITA.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmharry reid talking about military strategy and questioning david patreus...... courtesy of liberals destroyed america
I know it's a proper noun and all, but can you at least spell the name of your hero? PEtrAeus. Again, just pattern recognition. Similar to troll recognition. Highly dependent upon repetition.
PEtrAeus.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmThat's right. Don't have anything intelligent to say, so make it a personal attack..
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmI thought someone starting out poor and obtaining money in America was proof of how wonderful they were (sarcasm).
July 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pmGen. Petraeus will know more about military strategy until his knowledge comes into conflict with Chimpy's ego, at which point he'll take his place in the line of all the other generals who have been fired for adhering to reality. Then he'll just be an idiot.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:44 pmwho knows more about foreign policy, barrack hussein allah akbar obama or general david patraeus????
Comment by liberals destroyed america
False premise. Petraeus is a general. He knows about military affairs.
Petraeus will not be an elected official as long as he's in the military. The next President of the country will be an elected official, unless the Deciderer declares himself "Emperor". BTW, Bush knows NOTHING about military affairs, and he won't listen to people like Powell and Shinsheki, who do.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:45 pmdumby lolololololololol
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
What does that say in binary ?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:45 pmLetterman just attributed Chertoff's gut feeling to "bad Steak-Ums".
July 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pmseems to me that he is the most powerful president ever and you guys havent done jack to stop him, but yea he’s the dumby lolololololololol
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Well, he certainly is the most criminal ever.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pm"He can always pray to get well..."
Comment by MCMetal — July 11, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
On my way home from work tonight, I passed a local church that has a sign outside for upcoming events, etc. Tonight I noticed that it was promoting "Weight Loss through Faith"!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pmKeith G, hypocrite? Romney and the Waltons are not the ones making poverty their NUMBER ONE ISSUE. thats why Edwards and his $1250 haircuts are ridiculous, and why his campaign is in ruins.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:47 pmWhen Bush got 600,000 votes LESS than Gore, that was soundly beating him?
Get back on the healthcare topic.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:48 pmMichael Moore exploits your deluded hatred for America in every way possible in his films.
He doesn’t give a sh*t, as long as you Lefties will pay his bills!
Comment by PiP
Another irrational, strawman statement. Plese try to say something that comes CLOSE to making sense. NEXT!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:48 pm1,250? Wasn't it 400? Do you work for the Defense Department?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:48 pmWhen Bush got 600,000 votes LESS than Gore, that was soundly beating him?
Comment by Keith G
Only in the fantasy life of trolls, Keith
July 11th, 2007 at 11:49 pmthats why Edwards and his $1250 haircuts are ridiculous, and why his campaign is in ruins.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:47
Take that John McInsane!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:49 pmThe Republic of Stupidity, then back it up and impeach him. c'mon call your congressman and impeach him. i dare the speaker to do it. nothing better for the republicans in 08 then an impeachment acquital and hillary rotten clinton!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:49 pmDo you work for the Defense Department?
Comment by Elliott
No, the GOP...
July 11th, 2007 at 11:50 pmKeith G, gore lost, it is time to deal with it, GORE LOST
July 11th, 2007 at 11:50 pmIt is horribly wrong the amount of poverty we have in the USA (increasing under every Repub and decreasing under every Democrat) and the fact that we have 47,000,000 with no healthcare.
But Moore's film is about the middle class who don't have enough coverage or who go bankrupt when something happens. Only in the USA, not in the rest of the developed world.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:51 pmThese Trolls are just parroting their enabler's talking points. When you can't debate facts, make it:
1-Personal
2-Question your target's Patriotism
3-Question their Intelligence (since trools don't have any brains to begin with)
4-Smear your target as Anti American, Anti Troops, Godless, Islamofacists or supporters of said misnomer.
5-Repeat ad nausem.
Solution:IGNORE THE TROOLS when possible, hit upside head with a 2x4 if you must (The Coultergeist solution).
July 11th, 2007 at 11:51 pmKeith G, gore lost, it is time to deal with it, GORE LOST
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
July 11th, 2007 at 11:51 pmClick your heels together and say that three times.
$400 haircut was before, now with the expenses of flying his stylist around and putting him up in hotels and such the total comes to $1250.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:52 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 11, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Well, if you don't read the post I am responding to, it won't make sense to you.
If you don't understand, that is your own fault.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:52 pmSo it's wrong for a wealthy, successful person to advocate for the poor? You should throw it all away and be homeless if you're going to help the little people? King George never set foot on a battlefield. What business does he have making war and sending kids to die?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:53 pmI guess the Waltons are not complaining about poverty because they got *&^%$#@ $95 BILLION, you *&^%$#@ idiot!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:54 pmKeith G, gore lost, it is time to deal with it, GORE LOST
Comment by liberals destroyed america
The world is trying to deal with it. You're obviously not. How can liberals destroy America if Bush is the most powerful president ever? Couldn't He (capitalization intentional) have stopped it?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:54 pmJim Wolf359 , lets debate the facts, britains healthcare system has a 1 million person waiting list for treatment, with another 200,000 people waiting to get on the waiting list. the US provides the world with 80% of it medical innovations, technologies, and new treatments through its free market. doctors and nurses make double in this country what they make in canada. the average time for surgery like hip replacement in canada is 12 months on a waiting list. 4 months just to get an MRI in canada.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:56 pmThe Republic of Stupidity, then back it up and impeach him. c’mon call your congressman and impeach him. i dare the speaker to do it. nothing better for the republicans in 08 then an impeachment acquital and hillary rotten clinton!!!
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Yet another irrational, off-topic rant. I, personally, should impeach? It's called, "the necessary votes". When conservatives, such as General William Odom, the former head of the National Security Agency under President Reagan, start talking impeachment, you KNOW the noose is tightening around the Deciderer's throat. It's only a matter of time, son. BTW, please, please try to make ONE coherent statement here, for your own sake.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:56 pmHe doesn’t give a sh*t, as long as you Lefties will pay his bills!
Comment by PiP — July 11, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
I'm with pip on this-Moore just sent me his dry cleaninng bill-I am sick of paying his bills!
July 11th, 2007 at 11:57 pmI didn't bring up the 2000 election. Some idiot did. They said that losing by 600,000 votes was soundly beating your opponent. I couldn't keep quiet. Can't you people read and comprehend anything?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:57 pmMoore has nothing to worry about from Huckabee attacking him. Nobody likes Huck so he can spew crap and nobody gives a f--k.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pmhey , Joe and Pip
mind paying my 20k Iraq bill?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pmComment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
You cite some interesting, if true, numbers. Can you back that up with any links? Where did you find all this out?
And must everything in this country be about how much money you can make? Would you rather be operated on by a surgeon who does it for the money, or one who cares about whether or not you live or die?
July 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pmMoore just sent me his dry cleaninng bill-I am sick of paying his bills!
Comment by Joefriday — July 11, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
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I bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:00 amIf having 1% fewer votes than your opponent is soundly beating him, what do you call November 2006 when the Dems won by 11.7%?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 ama blind eye to 17 terrorists who trained in flight schools while he was playing ‘hide the cigar’ with his chubby intern!
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Yeah, right, like Richard Clarke didn't try over and over and over again to tell Condi about this coming at us. What did Condi say. after several dozen attempts by Clark? No one could have... blah, blah, blah...
Yet ANOTHER dishonest, irrational statement. NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 ama dinosaur bit me and jesus healed the wound. it was a miracle.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 amhey , Joe and Pip
mind paying my 20k Iraq bill?
Comment by BubbaJudge — July 11, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
PLEASE do not put me in the same paragraph with Pi$$
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 amOh, wait, LDA. Let me answer my own question for you.
Oops.
We have some nice parting gifts for you. Some JiffyPop, and the TP home game. Better luck next time. Tschuss.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 amRE: Huckabee's comments about M. Moore.
Just put up a picture of Huckabee's kids. If he is insulting Moore for being fat, what is he saying about his own family?
Family Values?
Do unto others?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 am"I bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!"
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:00 am
When was the last time you were in MM's underwear?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amLike their swiftboat predecessors, they can ONLY make personal attacks.
The 'cons have NOTHING to brag about. They are bullies, and bullies focus on trivial, personal matters instead of issues.
Defy them, dismiss them, boldly confront them with facts, and demand they focus on issues.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amI am calling foul.
Lame Trolls
Lame Trolls
a 400 dollar haircut and fat, and dry cleaning bills is all you got?
sheeesh, i need to head back to the Britney forum.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amI bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Eat it up PiP.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amHuckabee thinks The Flintstones was a documentary.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 amseems huckabee could be sympathetic enough
to congratulate michael moore for loosing over 30lbs...
it's a sure bet that the idjits here complaining about
moore don't have the balls to even go see this movie,
or any of the others... change is scary...
even scarier is having to admit a mistake...
$1250 haircuts??? ... man, the rumor mill is in overdrive...
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 am...
marlow , he didnt make war, he liberated 50 million people from 2 of the worlds most tyranical and muderous regimes in saddam and the taliban.
liberals say 'oh we should just have contained saddam' without caring about the iraqi people. thats like saying ' well theres a serial killer in that house with a family, but he's contained so just leave him in there'. what happened to the humanitarian left that cares so much for people all over the world, except of course where bush wants to go.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 amYeah P,
How are you knowledgeable about his underwear?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 ama dinosaur bit me really bad, but jesus healed the wound. it was a miracle.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 am# 62, Care to back that up with FACTS an LINKS those facts? Or are you just pulling your talking points out of your ass like Bush and Huckelberry do?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 amWe have some nice parting gifts for you. Some JiffyPop, and the TP home game. Better luck next time. Tschuss.
Comment by Elliott — July 12, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Don't forget the year's supply of Turtle Wax.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 amLiberals destroyed our Fascist State,
mike, is that you?
or do all the koolaiders sound the same these days?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 amWayne A. Schneider , well under paying teachers hasn't worked out so well for us so i dont think we should start underpaying doctors and nurses, i know i dont want doctors who turn out like our teachers in this country.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 amOh yeah, the Turtle Wax. He'll need that if it ever comes out of its shell!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 amI thought someone starting out poor and obtaining money in America was proof of how wonderful they were (sarcasm).
Comment by Keith G — July 11, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
it's the "american dream"... he's a self made success story...
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 amjealous troolls...
Well, if you don’t read the post I am responding to, it won’t make sense to you.
If you don’t understand, that is your own fault.
Comment by PiP
WTF are you talking about? If I don't read the post you're responding to? Please, for your own sake, try to MAKE sense.
Of course, if you end up not making sense, I guess that's YOUR fault.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 amPoor dude is 20 posts behind. *hamster wheel turning*
July 12th, 2007 at 12:08 amStock market under Clinton up 350%.
22 million jobs created (Bush 4 million).
unemployment from 7.5% down to 3.9%
Clinton from record deficits to record surpluses
BushII from record surpluses to new record deficits
US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
July 12th, 2007 at 12:08 amHe made a war, you dolt. And ask the Afghanis how liberated they're feeling, cowering in their mud huts from the Taliban and the warlords. Iraqi's liberated? Yeah, the earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, and little dancing fairies send you off to sleep at night.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 12:07 am
What am I talking about?
Well, if you don't read the post I am responding to, it won't make sense to you.
If you don't understand, that is your own fault.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 am"liberals say ‘oh we should just have contained saddam’ without caring about the iraqi people."
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:04 am
And now conservatives are calling everyone fighting the US troops in Iraq "Al Qaeda" as an excuse to kill as many of those same 'liberated' Iraqis as possible.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 amliberals say ‘oh we should just have contained saddam’ without caring about the iraqi people. thats like saying ‘ well theres a serial killer in that house with a family, but he’s contained so just leave him in there’. what happened to the humanitarian left that cares so much for people all over the world, except of course where bush wants to go.
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Yet ANOTHER irrational, dishonest statement. "Caring about the Iraqi people"??? WTF??? Sweet Tapdancing Jesus, Bru$chCo refused to even count the number of dead at one point. What an A**HOLE you are. NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 am"“I wonder what the good governor would say to the French, who drink more, smoke more, eat more cheese and still live longer than us despite paying less for health care?â€
They do? I'd like to ask you "believe everything" liberals how that is possible? Who pays for it?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 amDon’t forget the year’s supply of Turtle Wax.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
And the sugar beet, Wayne. The extra-large, irregularly-shaped sugar beet.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 am“I bet they charged extra to remove those thick skid marks!!!â€
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:00 am
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July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 amHEyOOOOOooooooooooOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I smell smoked troll. Can I help?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 amWell, if you don’t read the post I am responding to, it won’t make sense to you.
If you don’t understand, that is your own fault.
Comment by PiP
Decide it's easier to talk in circles, heh? Go w/ it, it's working for you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 amComment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 am
I asked you four questions and you did not answer a single one. Instead, you jumped to another subject.
Answer my questions:
1) Do you have any links to back up those numbers you posted?
2) Where did you hear this?
3) Must everything in this country be about making money?
4) Would you rather be operated on by someone who does it for the money, or someone who cares about whether or not you live or die?
This is known as "having a discussion" and I am trying to do this with you in earnest. If you're not interested in that, then I'll assume you made everything up.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 amIn the film, the British doctor has a $1 million house and two luxury cars.
When Consumer Reports says the US would save $250 Billion each and every year administratively-alone, they mean:
ADMINISTRATIVELY-ALONE
That does not include doctors' pay.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 am"US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007"
Blow jobs in the Oval Office?
Clinton = at least 1
Bush = 0
You liberals must be proud?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 amWho is Mike Huckabee?
Is he from one of those weight loss reality shows?
mmmmmm
Or ...is he in the same biz as Ted Haggerd?
Jack Jett
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 amhttp://www.jackejett.com
Holy crap! There's more than one! What do we do? Dumbest, or most recent?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 amI think he made it all up Wayne. Not that I'm surprised. I challenged "liberals destroyed america' as well. No response from the moron.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 am"doctors and nurses make double in this country what they make in canada."
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 11, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
"i dont think we should start underpaying doctors and nurses, i know i dont want doctors who turn out like our teachers in this country."
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Hmmm, double, or underpaying? No happy medium? And teachers in this country are definitely underpaid if you're an example of our school system. Ever hear of beginning a sentence with a capital letter?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 amThey do? I’d like to ask you “believe everything†liberals how that is possible? Who pays for it?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:11 am
The Lord works in strange and miraculous ways.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:16 amWho pays for it?
Comment by michael
Could be they pay "less" simply because they don't have greedy ins company execs in the chain taking home billion-dollar-a-yr bonuses.
Just might have a little sumpin to do w/ it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:16 amYou liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:14 am
I know I am!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 am#108 - backtracking, he's been flailing since the 60s (posts, that is). Is that what is called an exit strategy?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 amYou liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael
A totally irrational, disconnected statement. What does ONE hummer in the WH have to do w/ the cost of healthcare? NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:18 amIs that what is called an exit strategy?
Comment by Retrogrouch
Exit strategy - is that a polite way of saying, "Soiling his Depends"?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 amBlow jobs in the Oval Office?
Clinton = at least 1
Bush = 0
You liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael
Hmmm. A BJ versus indiscriminate genocide. Excellent point.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 amRetrogrouch-I guess for them it is. The Trolls on this board aren't too bright.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 amThe simple fact is, Michael Moore wants to have his cake and eat it too (he really wants to eat it too).
If he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 am#117 My visions of the rugged individualists are sadly dashed. Gee thanks. Now what can I aspire to?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 am“US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007″
“US troop deaths in Haiti and Serbia= 0
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007″
Blow jobs in the Oval Office?
Clinton = at least 1
Bush = 0
You liberals must be proud?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:14 am
You're comparing troop deaths with BLOW JOBS?! You're a sicker a$$wipe than we already thought. Ann must be real proud, but she'd be the only one.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 amWho pays for it?
Comment by michael
The USA has a tremendously huge extra layer of bureaucracy that the rest of the world does not. If there are 2,000 health insurers in the US, each with single, plus spouse, or plus children; and either "silver" or "gold"----then that is 12,000 plans.
Whenever an American needs healthcare it is an unbelieveable bureaucratic nightmare trying to figure out what they can or cannot have and who pays what % or what.
American automakers are moving to Canada because US healthcare adds too much to the cost of each car, leaving no room for profit.
People in the US are stuck in lousy jobs for fear of changing and losing benefits.
In the rest of the world, there is no "pre-existing condition" or special pre-approval. You get what you need.
I lived in Britain 12 years and I would rather have their system. Even if you do have to wait 12 months for hip-replacement. Better than losing your house due to car accident.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 am"3) Must everything in this country be about making money?
4) Would you rather be operated on by someone who does it for the money, or someone who cares about whether or not you live or die?
This is known as “having a discussion†and I am trying to do this with you in earnest. If you’re not interested in that, then I’ll assume you made everything up.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007"
It's unfortunate wayne that you don't understand that yes, everything in this world is about money! Wake up? I don't care what your nationality is, it's all about MONEY! Everybody wants it and everybody wants more of it! If you don't, I wouldn't want to be dependent on you!
To answer # 4, BOTH! When Physicians gain a reputation for being good at what they do, just like lawyers who defend the indefensible, they make more money! Wayne, this is pure Capitalism! If you don't feel comfortable with this system, there is no chance that you are going to change it. People from all over the world come to this country, that you hate so much, for a piece of the pie! Maybe you would be happier in North Korea, China, Cuba?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 amNo problem there PiP. The problem with you and the rest of the Troll Patrol is that you don't back up with facts very well, if at all. They seem to be a bit inconvienent for you and your Reich Wing friends.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 amone last thought...
it's a pretty safe bet that if huckabee was just a "regular joe"
he would NOT have lost his own 100 lbs... he was able to
schedule his workouts and training - no doubt with a
personal trainer/therapist and the advice from the best
doctors... there's just no way to justify this slur...
and, yea, the guy doesn't even believe in evolution...
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amtotally discredited... totally irrelavent...
or should be...
If he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Nice to see you're still with us.
Not so sure he's criticizing America, just its bloated hyperelitistcapitalist culture. A small difference. Bush's approval less than 30% - Is that really America? You must have a hard time dealing with yourself - your cohorts typically don't suffer minorities well.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amHe actually compared 1 bj to the one million human lives lost in Iraq and the $2.3 Trillion it will cost American taxpayers.
I don't believe it.
And the war has HELPED our enemy.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amIf he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Comment by PiP
There's a difference between criticizing the documentary in a rational, intelligent manner, which AIN"t happening here, and personally attacking the man because you don't like the message, which is happening here.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 amIf he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:21 am
First of all, he was making a documentary about the for-profit healthcare system in this country, not the country as a whole. And how does that he make him an "open target"? That is not logical. C'mon, PiP, I know you're smarter than that.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 amIf he is going to make a documentary criticizing the USA, then he is an open target for all who criticize him.
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Hey $hit for brains-He has critiqued the American health care system-Not the USA. Your as dumb as they get.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 amAn extreme state of denial Keith G. Thats the only possible explanation for it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 amMy, my, my. These people sure do worry an AWFUL lot about Micheal Moore, don't they.
They doth protest too much, I think.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 amTake your turtlewax and jiffypop and go. Or would you like to leave America's favorite game show, Smoke that Troll, owing money?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:28 amIt’s unfortunate wayne that you don’t understand that yes, everything in this world is about money! Wake up? I don’t care what your nationality is, it’s all about MONEY! Everybody wants it and everybody wants more of it! If you don’t, I wouldn’t want to be dependent on you!
To answer # 4, BOTH! When Physicians gain a reputation for being good at what they do, just like lawyers who defend the indefensible, they make more money! Wayne, this is pure Capitalism! If you don’t feel comfortable with this system, there is no chance that you are going to change it. People from all over the world come to this country, that you hate so much, for a piece of the pie! Maybe you would be happier in North Korea, China, Cuba?
Comment by michael
Wayne, there's no point in trying to reach this person. he's so convinced of his "rightness" that he will never hear anything anyone else says.
EVERYTHING is about money? I feel sorry for you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 am#
marlow , he didnt make war, he liberated 50 million people from 2 of the worlds most tyranical and muderous regimes in saddam and the taliban.
liberals say ‘oh we should just have contained saddam’ without caring about the iraqi people. thats like saying ‘ well theres a serial killer in that house with a family, but he’s contained so just leave him in there’. what happened to the humanitarian left that cares so much for people all over the world, except of course where bush wants to go.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Liberated 50 million, hah.. He has pissed off 50+ million people. Let's take a look at Iraq, appx 27 million before the war, almost a million dead, more to die because of starvation, lack of medical care, water. Then there are 3 million refugees. Iraqi's are dying or leaving at a faster rate. This is what you call liberation? This is what sane people call worse than Saddam. Things are so bad all most all of the coalition of the willing have left Iraq, and many are realizing that Afghanistan (the silent war) is lost and want to pull out.
Now let's expand on that pissing 50+ million people off, the reason other countries are pulling out of Iraq is their "people" demanded it. Soon we'll be all alone fighting this war on terra. So now America is alone, other people from other countries stop buying our products, (what few that are still made here now) they stop traveling here, they stop trading in the dollar, just what America doesn't need is more job loss, and less money. Look at the failed soviet union for what happens to a country that becomes isolationist, living a war based economy in a world that for the most part doesn't want war, only those who profit from it, and those that kill over who's god has a bigger _____.
You trolls are seriously stupid for thinking we liberated any one. The only thing liberated was our tax dollars from our accounts into the war makers.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 amC’mon, PiP, I know you’re smarter than that.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
You might want to reconsider that statement.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 amMy, my, my. These people sure do worry an AWFUL lot about Micheal Moore, don’t they.
They doth protest too much, I think.
Comment by JPV — July 12, 2007 @ 12:27 am
And don't foreget blow jobs-they worry a lot about that also.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 amComment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:24 am
A) I wasn't addressing you, I was addressing the person who posted some unbelievable numbers, and
B) I don't really care what you think. You obviously know little or nothing about me (such as the fact that served my country in the United States Air Force for more than five years. Have you ever worn a military uniform, other than posing for pictures?)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 amComment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Oh, are you talking to me?
First of all I was making a comment about Michael Moore, not the Lefties (for a change). Secondly, if someone puts their opinion out there for the world to see, he becomes an open target.
Case in point - your criticism of my comment.
Perfectly logical.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:31 am"The USA has a tremendously huge extra layer of bureaucracy that the rest of the world does not"
What a stupid statement! There is NO extra layer of bureaucracy with my health care company. I file a claim and it's taken care of. I have had cancer twice and never had to wait more than a few days before I was on an operating table. You think something like that can happen that quickly in Canada, England, Norway, or your beloved France?
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007
July 12th, 2007 at 12:31 amMr. Schneider -
Agree with #135. Don't make me dig up some Simoniz for you ;)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:32 amYour as dumb as they get.
Comment by Joefriday — July 12, 2007 @ 12:26 am
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What about my "as dumb as they get"?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:32 amtrolls are driven to be the elite party. They relish the tought of a NeoCon Market Driven world because they still believe the lie of the American Dream. The are but beggers to their own demise.
There was a time when they would have been house slaves or sympathisers. now they are trolls.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 amPerhaps Huckabee worked a deal with a health care insurance company -- trashing "Sicko" in exchange for providing him with a special exception, allowing him to purchase health care coverage, despite having a disqualifying condition (i.e., diabetes)?
By the way, for those who blindly believe that the United States has the best health care system in the world (caveat -- only for those who are extremely wealthy), please identify by name the other industrialized countries that have scrapped their system to adopt one resembling ours.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 am"Have you ever worn a military uniform, other than posing for pictures?)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007"
wayne, have you been drinking tonight? We have been through this before. I served 5 years in the USN in the 60's & 70's! Put down the bottle!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 amWhat a stupid statement! There is NO extra layer of bureaucracy with my health care company. I file a claim and it’s taken care of. I have had cancer twice and never had to wait more than a few days before I was on an operating table. You think something like that can happen that quickly in Canada, England, Norway, or your beloved France?
Comment by Keith G
and that's what it's all about keith, you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 amComment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:31 am
First of all I was making a comment about Michael Moore, not the Lefties (for a change).
You were making an inaccurate statement about Michael Moore.
Secondly, if someone puts their opinion out there for the world to see, he becomes an open target.
Case in point - You.
Perfectly logical, unlike your comments.
I'm trying to be nice to you, PiP. You do see that, don't you?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:35 amAnd the war has HELPED our enemy.
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 12:25 am
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The things you guys say sometimes makes me thing you're a bunch of pranksters!!!
Then I realize that you are serious, and I think you need some serious help.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:35 amClassic ad hominem attack. Huckabee can't deal with the facts in Moore's film, so he has to issue a personal attack. So predictable.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 am"The are but beggers to their own demise.
There was a time when they would have been house slaves or sympathisers. now they are trolls.
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007"
willy, I have finally realized that you are nothing but an uneducated (probably attended public schools) DOPE!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 amThe large government/corporate cabal has unfortunately convinced many U.S. citizens, who are already financially strapped, that somehow the increased taxes necessary to finance single payer universal health care coverage would be IN ADDITION to the already astronomical health care costs we already pay. Look for the MSM to avoid any mention that the increased taxes would REPLACE rather than ADD to our current health care costs. Would you be willing to pay somewhat higher taxes if you could then stop paying health insurance premiums, deductibles, co-pays, non-covered expenses, etc. and could also stop worrying that your insurance company might drop you or find a loophole to avoid providing coverage (such as your forgetting to mention that you had chickenpox as a child on your application)?
According to the World Health Organization website, of all major countries of the world, the United States spends by far the highest percentage of its gross domestic product on health care costs (15.4%). The next highest country (minimum population — 10,000,000) is Germany with a percentage figure of 10.6%. France (10.3%) is lower still and the Scandinavian countries are below 10%.
If the United States were to emulate Germany, the percentage difference of 4.8% multiplied by the U. S. gross domestic product ($13,244,550,000,000 in 2006, according to the IMF), would result in a gross savings of $635,738,400,000, which is more than four times the amount spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. If this figure is then divided by the estimated current population of the United States of 302,311,374, the result would be a savings of $2102.93 for every man, woman and child in this country. Could you put an extra $2102.93 per person per year in your household to good use?
Under a system such as Germany’s, we would no longer have 46,000,000 people without health insurance and at the same time could save a considerable amount of money. The downside would be that CEOs such as Bill McGuire of United Healthcare might not be able to replicate his performance of 2005, receiving $124,000,000 in salary along with stock options worth more than $1.7 billion (according to forbes.com) — so you would have that thought weighing on your conscience.
There is a better way.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 amComment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Well, forgive me for not having everyone's bios memorized.
Thank you for your service to our country.
And, for the record, I don't drink. There, now you learned something else about me.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 amMike Kukabee. A failed governor from a small state.
Shut up and eat.
-GSD
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 am"Huckabee can’t deal with the facts in Moore’s film
Comment by PaulB — July 12, 2007"
What facts?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 amMichael Moore may be a heavyweight, but the Huckster is definitely a lightweight.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:38 amwayne, have you been drinking tonight? We have been through this before. I served 5 years in the USN in the 60’s & 70’s! Put down the bottle! comment by michael
so what? you were drafted and dug holes for a few years. and now this makes you what?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 amre 139
If you need immediate care in the rest of the world, then you get it. Our extra layer of bureaucracy explains why we spend at least twice as much per capita--even when 47,000,000 are paying zero.
In Britain, I needed an appendectomy immediately and I got it. I did not pay a penny other than the $10 per week that came out of my paycheck.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 am“Huckabee can’t deal with the facts in Moore’s film
Comment by PaulB — July 12, 2007″
What facts?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:37 am
The whole movie .................
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amI have finally realized that you are nothing but an uneducated (probably attended public schools) DOPE!
Comment by michael
The same schools that your old men defunded because only the wealthy are entitled to a quality education? All part of the cycle, I guess - more likely to vote for 'Pubes. Make sure they have easy access to guns and take the cops off of the street while you're at it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amWhat facts?
Comment by michael
Just out of curiosity, have yu seen the film?
(It's a yes or no question, BTW...)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amOh, USN...my bad...you mopped a deck for 5 years
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amwayne, have you been drinking tonight? We have been through this before. I served 5 years in the USN in the 60’s & 70’s! Put down the bottle! comment by michael
so what? you were drafted and dug holes for a few years. and now this makes you what?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 12:39 am
An aging hole-digger .............
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amI’m trying to be nice to you, PiP. You do see that, don’t you?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 12:35 am
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Sure!
I criticize Moore, you criticize my criticism of Moore, I criticize your criticism of my criticism of Moore, you criticize my criticism of your criticism of my criticism of Moore, and now I agree that you are trying to be nice.
:)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amYou might want to reconsider that statement.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Well I never said how much!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 amyou see the film Michael?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:41 amI did not pay an extra penny for my root canal in Britain. In the USA I have paid a lot for "excellent" health plans that did not cover dental at all. Ditto for optometric. And some of you trolls out there may not have your mental health issues covered.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 amComment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 12:40 am
No link to your blog? What happened?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:43 am"Wayne, there’s no point in trying to reach this person. he’s so convinced of his “rightness†that he will never hear anything anyone else says.
EVERYTHING is about money? I feel sorry for you.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007"
Is there an alternative THAT YOU PRACTICE? I'd love to hear about it and how many glasses of kool aide it takes to believe it?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:43 amI have lived in Japan, whose citizens enjoy among the highest rates of longevity in the world. (I believe it's highest for women and second highest for men.) Health care is not free, but the National Health Insurance and other company or workplace insurance plans usually pay for 70% of medical bills. Very few Japanese lose their homes because of medical expenses.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 amyou see the film Michael?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Yeah , right.
These GOP/Chimpy backing stooges don't need to see no stinkin' movie ; they have "God" on their side .......
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I can't even type that without cracking up.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 amComment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 12:35 am
According to the 16 intelligence agencies of the USA and every study in the world, the war in Iraq has INCREASED TERRORISM. Do you have more info than they do? No, then STFU!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 amIs there an alternative THAT YOU PRACTICE? I’d love to hear about it and how many glasses of kool aide it takes to believe it?
Comment by michael
Totally empty comment, as usual.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 am"so what? you were drafted and dug holes for a few years. and now this makes you what?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007"
Unlike you willy, I was a man and JOINED! What have you done for your country? I'd like to know?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 amComment by curmudgeon — July 12, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Thanks for the info, excellent post!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 amjust remembered something else... heh...
i was working today at a delivery business, talking with an
acquaintence who works there, making deliveries...
he told me he's seen SICKO, and what a profound affect
it had on him... he said he's talked to the workers at his stops,
telling them how urgent it is that they watch this movie -
they'll growl and moan, sputter the usual limpball rhetoric,
but mostly they object because, they say, universal healthcare
is "socialist"... south-central illinois reporting...
g'nite...
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 amI can’t even type that without cracking up.
Comment by MCMetal
I hear you on that one.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 amIs there an alternative THAT YOU PRACTICE? I’d love to hear about it and how many glasses of kool aide it takes to believe it?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:43 am
You back the worst president and administration in US history , and try to call others out on their beliefs ?
Are you insane ?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 amSame story every night. To paraphrase Dieter, you trolls have grown tiresome. G'night friends.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 amSure PiP.
You erroneously criticized Moore, then I criticized your erroneous criticism of Moore. Nicely. I'm glad you agree that I'm being nioce about it. But I have reason to believe that you are smart enough to realize that what you're saying is illogical.
We already have our share of brainless people posting absurd comments. Why do you want to pretend to be one of them? Wouldn't it be more fun to join our side and knock down their assinine arguments? (For that, I would suggest retiring some aliases and choose a new one.)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 amfields keep getting reset.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:48 amWell I never said how much!
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
True... true... did you ever get that one feller the sugar beet he ordered? The really, really BIG sugar beet?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:48 amwe did liberate iraq, and if not for a biased media that focuses only on death, we would not be in such a low morale state. imagine cnn, and michael ware, inbedded with the troops on the beaches of normandy or iwajima, reporting and shoving photos of mutilated body parts and bodies down our throats. "crikey!" ware screams, " there are bodies eeeeeeverywhere!" or maybe if we showed the japanese americans in internment camps as often as we talk about g'tmo, would our morale had remained high? maybe if we talked about how the kids drafted for FDR's army were out-gunned and far less equipped and armored compared to the nazis, probably why half a million came home in caskets. and i'm sure no nazi pow's were treated as bad as abu grahb, or maybe back then the media realized what was at stake. perhaps if we had reports from japan on a 24/7 basis of the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed by a democrat's nuclear attack. i guess we can all be thankful then when democrats were killing millions, there was no 24/7 media.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 amTrue… true… did you ever get that one feller the sugar beet he ordered? The really, really BIG sugar beet?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 12:48 am
No, I wasn't the one giving away the prizes. Perhaps it could be a door prize?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 am"the war in Iraq has INCREASED TERRORISM. Do you have more info than they do? No, then STFU!!!
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007"
BS! Do you think these animals in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordon, Syria, Lebanon woke up one morning and decided that they were going to interrupt their studies to become physicists, lawyers, teachers, programmers, etc because the West declared war on people who not only want to destroy us but their ambitions? When will the left WAKE UP?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 amAre you insane ?
Comment by MCMetal
I think the wrod you're looking for is "stupid"... just a hunch.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:51 amWhen will the left WAKE UP?
Comment by michael
Irrational, dishonest statement. NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:52 amComment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 12:44 am
If there is a positive correlation that is one thing, however, proving a causal link is next to impossible.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 amthis war did not create more terrorists you morons, it drew them out like moths to a flame.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 amexcellent post by curmudgeon
The proof is that no other developed contry wants anything near our system because it is extremely and needlessly costly. They are quite happy with their own. If theirs needs improving then they can improve it by electing the right candidate. I do not have a vote on the board of a large corporation.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 amwell, I went to college. then I went to work. then i went to another job. then another job. then another job. then I took off a couple of weeks and I went to another job.
just a bunch of jobs. and of course since I didn't go set sail on a boat. I'm what? a coward? Is that how your mind works there?
did you choose the Navy during Nam because, I don't know...you were afraid of being drafted in the army? and now it's a badge of honor? That it Michael? were you affraid of ending up in a jungle, so you choose a ship?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 amThe United States already has enough money for Universal health care. Other countries use it for health service for the people. The US uses it to pay pharmaceutical companies. We pay more for the same medicine and we're told to take a pill for everything. If you want to stay awake take a pill, fall a sleep take a pill and walk to the kitchen take a pill. If we got the same price for medicine as they do overseas there would be no problem. It's to late now as we are in 7 trillion dollar debt because we give Iraq 2 billion dollars a day and of course the contractors who do nothing for the billions of dollars. Yes and we pay men to get Iraq oil and transport it as they work only 6 hours a day 5 days a week and get 10,000 dollars a week. Well at lease the rich and those with high paying jobs can get great health care. To back the other Americans and the troops can't but that's what's so great about America. Huckabee used his government employment insurance to get his weight down it wasn't paid out of his pocket. But that's another story.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 amComment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:49 am
Another GOP/Chimpy rim licking sycophant , trying to compare WWII to Chimpy's Idiotic Iraq Adventure ; next up.......
They astound us all with their comparison of Citizen Kane to Freddy Got Fingered.........
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 amAre you insane ?
Comment by MCMetal
I think the wrod you’re looking for is “stupidâ€â€¦ just a hunch.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I think McMetal is closer to reality, frankly. I mean, yes, "stupid" is a given for almost all the trolls, but "insane" certainly applies as well.
How else to describe this foaming, barking incomprehensible lunacy:
You can just hear the jaws snapping.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 am"You back the worst president and administration in US history , and try to call others out on their beliefs ?
Are you insane ?
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007"
That's your stupid opinion! Isn't it interesting that once again a dopey liberal makes that statement without backing up their opinion with some facts?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:54 amlotta guys did it in those days michael. nothing to be ashamed of.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:54 amwe did liberate iraq, and if not for a biased media that focuses only on death, we would not be in such a low morale state. imagine cnn, and michael ware, inbedded with the troops on the beaches of normandy or iwajima, reporting and shoving photos of mutilated body parts and bodies down our throats. “crikey!†ware screams, †there are bodies eeeeeeverywhere!†or maybe if we showed the japanese americans in internment camps as often as we talk about g’tmo, would our morale had remained high? maybe if we talked about how the kids drafted for FDR’s army were out-gunned and far less equipped and armored compared to the nazis, probably why half a million came home in caskets. and i’m sure no nazi pow’s were treated as bad as abu grahb, or maybe back then the media realized what was at stake. perhaps if we had reports from japan on a 24/7 basis of the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed by a democrat’s nuclear attack. i guess we can all be thankful then when democrats were killing millions, there was no 24/7 media.
Comment by liberals destroyed america
And we have a winner, for the CRAZIEST, LEAST RATIONAL POST OF THE NIGHT. This is so F-ing nutty, it's hard to make it thr it w/out wanting to tear your own eyeballs out. A WINNER!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:55 amComment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Are you disputing Keith G, or the 16 intelligence agencies that said so?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:55 amThat’s your stupid opinion! Isn’t it interesting that once again a dopey liberal makes that statement without backing up their opinion with some facts?
Comment by michael
And, ummm, where were your facts?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:56 amMCMetal , actually it was your hero michael moore on cnn the other night who compared ww2 to iraq. he said fdr was able to beat the nazis and mussolini in the time we wasted trying secure iraq. of course he failed to mention the incredible loss of life of both soldier and civilain at the hands of those dems. how awful.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:56 amRe: Post #179 -- If the United States truly liberated Iraq, as you contend, then would you be willing to contact your representative and senators to support a resolution whereby a special election is held in Iraq, monitored by a neutral international agency, with only one question on the ballot -- "Should the United States remain in Iraq or leave?" The additional requirement would be that the United States agrees in advance to abide by the wishes of the majority of the Iraqi people.
If you don't support such a measure, please explain your rationale.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:57 am"How else to describe this foaming, barking incomprehensible lunacy:
BS! Do you think these animals in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordon, Syria, Lebanon woke up one morning and decided that they were going to interrupt their studies to become physicists, lawyers, teachers, programmers, etc because the West declared war on people who not only want to destroy us but their ambitions? When will the left WAKE UP?
You can just hear the jaws snapping.
Comment by gummitch — July 12, 2007"
Wow! Great post! You didn't even have enough intelligence to articulate where you thought I was wrong, but that's understandable, you're a liberal!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:57 amthis war did not create more terrorists you morons, it drew them out like moths to a flame.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:53 am
I believe you should forward your astute and valuable info to the NIE ; they don't share your (stupid) sentiment.
The Return of Al Qaeda
A new National Intelligence Estimate raises concerns that the terrorist group is growing stronger.
By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Updated: 6:10 p.m. ET July 11, 2007
July 11, 2007 - A new National Intelligence Estimate presents a sobering analysis of terrorism threats to the United States, concluding that Al Qaeda has reconstituted its core structure along the Pakistani border and may now be a stronger and more resilient organization today than it appeared a year ago, according to three U.S. intelligence officials familiar with the draft document.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19717961/site/newsweek/
July 12th, 2007 at 12:57 amYou didn't answer my question, michael.
What year did you "choose" to join the Navy?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:57 amComment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:49 am
Dude, the 'war on terra' bears more resemblance to the 1939 invasion of Poland than WW2 - guess who play the Germans?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:57 amthe West declared war on people who not only want to destroy us but their ambitions? When will the left WAKE UP?
Comment by michael
First: It was not the West. It was over 90% US. Some British. Then Palau.
Second. Iraq did absolutely nothing to us. All Dems were in favor of going after bin Laden and his men in Afghanistan, but Bush let them go and left them alone for almost six years now. Every reason for invading Iraq was a lie.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:58 amOh maybe the Revolutionary war - guess who are the redcoats?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:58 amThe Republic of Stupidity , your hero michael moore was going on and on about ww2 and fdr, without mentioning any of the real facts of that war. fdr killed half a million americans for his war, 3.5 million german civilians, and truman wiped out 2 civilian cities in nuclear fire. maybe mike will remember that next time he compares the 2.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:58 amComment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 12:44 am
In fact, isn't it true that there had been a steady rise in terrorist activity well before the Iraq war?
Isn't the rise in terrorist activity now, during the Iraq war, predictable merely by following the increase prior to the conflict?
You sir, are being intellectually dishonest!
(TRoS, this is the correct usage of your second favorite phrase, take notes)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 amI've got your back, MCMetal.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history
Satisfied, michael? It's backed up now.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 amWas the draft still active when you choose the Navy?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 amthis war did not create more terrorists you morons, it drew them out like moths to a flame.
Comment by liberals destroyed america
THAT's just total bullshit, you Freakin' idiot.
Actually, come to think of it, you're partially right. The insanity of the Bru$ch Regime has emboldened closet Nazis everywhere to strap on their arm bands and come marching out of hiding!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 amMCMetal , actually it was your hero michael moore on cnn the other night who compared ww2 to iraq. he said fdr was able to beat the nazis and mussolini in the time we wasted trying secure iraq. of course he failed to mention the incredible loss of life of both soldier and civilain at the hands of those dems. how awful.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:56 am
1st off , Michael Moore is not my "hero".
2nd Did Mr Moore also mention that FDR went to war against Japan ; who invaded us with their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor and that Chimpy illegally invaded the WRONG COUNTRY in Iraq?
He should have.........
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 amWow! Great post! You didn’t even have enough intelligence to articulate where you thought I was wrong, but that’s understandable, you’re a liberal!
Comment by michael
Michael, it's not my job to point out where you're wrong. No one has that kind of time. It might be possible to point out where you were right within a reasonable time frame . . . but I can't imagine what that might be.
No, I was merely pointing out that you are a remarkably stupid crazy person. And your post is gibberish.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 am"“Should the United States remain in Iraq or leave?†The additional requirement would be that the United States agrees in advance to abide by the wishes of the majority of the Iraqi people.
If you don’t support such a measure, please explain your rationale.
Comment by curmudgeon — July 12, 2007"
Do you not read the news? It was just reported that Iraqi officials have declared that if we pull out soon, it would be a disaster! I know the liberals want to repeat the bloodbath they created in Cambodia in the 70's but must they be so blatant about it?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:00 amComment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 12:58 am
I assumed you were gone because you were trying to find documentation for those numbers you cited. Did you find them for me so we can debate the subject? Thank you.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:01 amfdr killed half a million americans for his war
Comment by liberals destroyed america
"His war?" WTF are you talking about? Could you possibly make less sense? Come to think of it, you probably can.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:01 am“You back the worst president and administration in US history , and try to call others out on their beliefs ?
Are you insane ?
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007″
That’s your stupid opinion! Isn’t it interesting that once again a dopey liberal makes that statement without backing up their opinion with some facts?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 12:54 am
Thanks "wayne" , but I've got another.....
Read any poll , and check out Chimpy's approval rating ; only Nixon had a lower approval rating.
That isn't "my opinion" alone , jackass .......That's over 70% of the country's opinion............
July 12th, 2007 at 1:02 amcurmudgeon, such a measure is very foolish. i bet if i asked for a special elections in this country to abolish taxes, taxes would be abolished. there is a reason we have elected leaders in a republic. its because the huddled masses are irrational, uninformed, and frankly not qualified to make major policy decisions. polling the average person on foreign policy is stupid. a watress, a steel worker, a gym teacher, a garbage man, these average folks are not qualified to judge military needs or strategic defense, not here or in iraq.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:02 amMichael? did you join the Navy to do your Duty,
or to avoid ending up in a foxhole after the draft?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:03 amPerhaps it could be a door prize?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Ya know, I've always been disappointed that no one has ever actually asked for their door prize.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:03 am"It might be possible to point out where you were right within a reasonable time frame . . . but I can’t imagine what that might be.
Comment by gummitch — July 12, 2007"
liberal surrender to reason? You'll have to come up with a better answer than that to convince anybody with an education higher than the 6th grade!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:03 amNo, I was merely pointing out that you are a remarkably stupid crazy person. And your post is gibberish.
Comment by gummitch
gummitch? Agreed...
July 12th, 2007 at 1:03 amMCMetal , no he didnt mention japan, only the germans and italians we illegally murdered.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:03 am““Should the United States remain in Iraq or leave?†The additional requirement would be that the United States agrees in advance to abide by the wishes of the majority of the Iraqi people.
If you don’t support such a measure, please explain your rationale.
Comment by curmudgeon — July 12, 2007″
Do you not read the news? It was just reported that Iraqi officials have declared that if we pull out soon, it would be a disaster! I know the liberals want to repeat the bloodbath they created in Cambodia in the 70’s but must they be so blatant about it?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 1:00 am
"Liberals" created the bloodbath in Cambodia with a Republican president in the Oval Office during that time period ?
Boy , your logic is astounding.......
July 12th, 2007 at 1:03 amFormer Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan's number has now been unearthed on the DC Madam's list.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:04 amDo you not read the news? It was just reported that Iraqi officials have declared that if we pull out soon, it would be a disaster! I know the liberals want to repeat the bloodbath they created in Cambodia in the 70’s but must they be so blatant about it?
Comment by michael
The bloodbath in Cambodia was a direct result of the "conservative" who decided to expand the war in Southeast Asia to include devastating Cambodia and Laos. You remember? Nixon?
Liberals didn't create the bloodbath, but there is no way you have the intellectual capacity to understand that.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:04 amThe Republic of Stupidity
FDR - 450,000 casualties
Truman - 58,000 casualties
Bush - 3,600 casualties
oh that Bush, what a monster, wish we had more FDR dems to lead us in combat.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:05 am"Michael? did you join the Navy to do your Duty,
or to avoid ending up in a foxhole after the draft?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007"
Why do you want to know? Searching for an answer to tell your grandchildren when they ask you why you criticized the war on terror but were too much of a coward to fight for your family?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:05 amI have finally realized that you are nothing but an uneducated (probably attended public schools) DOPE!
Comment by michael
There michael goes attacking public schools again. When I pointed out that my public high school has produced one Nobel Prize winner in Physics, a former Secretary of State, a Newbery Medalist, at least one Pulitzer Prize winner, etc. and asked him what luminaries graduated from his oh-so-superior private school, it took him at least three months and a lot of prodding to reply. And his answer: "I don't know." That's your problem, michael, you don't know much but act as if you do.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:06 amI know the liberals want to repeat the bloodbath they created in Cambodia in the 70’s but must they be so blatant about it?
Comment by michael
Yet another irrational, nonsensical statment. I could have sworn it was Nixon, and Kissinger, who started the bombing of Cambodia that led to all that nonsense.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:06 amliberal surrender to reason? You’ll have to come up with a better answer than that to convince anybody with an education higher than the 6th grade!
Comment by michael
More gibberish. You really need to have your medication adjusted, Michael. Whatever you're on is not working.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:06 amThanks “wayne†, but I’ve got another…..
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007 @ 1:02 am
It is my real name, you know. :)
July 12th, 2007 at 1:06 am(TRoS, this is the correct usage of your second favorite phrase, take notes)
Comment by PiP
Sorry, I stand by Wikipedia. I know it has a "liberal bias", but I'll live w/ it. I am using the phrase in an appropriate manner. Your comments are almost always misleading and dishonest.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:07 am"Studies by 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, including the CIA, the FBI, the State Dept., and all four branches of the armed forces, revealed that the occupation of Iraq has contributed to an increase in the overall terrorist threat. And that studies by the University of Chicago, the Hoover Digest, the Cato Institute, Iraq Body Count, and the 2005 Human Security Report support these findings."
I didn't do the studies. I'm just relaying the info.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 amWhere did Keith G. go?
His claim that the war in Iraq increased terror was shot down left and right but he didn't even defend his position!
I guess he was just making up stuff!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 am"Liberals didn’t create the bloodbath, but there is no way you have the intellectual capacity to understand that.
Comment by gummitch — July 12, 2007"
Really? And you do? Are you saying that the bloodbath would have still occurred if you liberals didn't convince us to pull out like cowards?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 amWell, speak of the devil!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 amWhy do you want to know? Searching for an answer to tell your grandchildren when they ask you why you criticized the war on terror but were too much of a coward to fight for your family?
Comment by michael
Ducking the question completely. Typical. NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:09 amMichael;
You did your 6 years with the USN, thats what you said. What have I done for my country? you asked. You wear your service like a badge of honor, but wont answer my questions about when you joined, when you "choose" to join the Navy.
Because you "choose" during the draft, didn't you Michael?
You put me in my place, but forgot to mention that you Choose to join the Navy so you wouldn't have to fight in the jungle.
Because you scare scared to fight in the jungle. That it Michael?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:09 amFDR - 450,000 casualties
Truman - 58,000 casualties
Bush - 3,600 casualties
oh that Bush, what a monster, wish we had more FDR dems to lead us in combat.
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Bush's grandfather collaborated with Hitler, so you should be very glad no Bushes were in the White House during WWII.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:10 amGiven your your run-on sentences and inability to punctuate, I assume you are that troll who posed as some Dem Presidents and conservatard/howsad, etc. under yet a new moniker. You can keep on changing your name, buddy, but your lack of writing skills soon gives you away.
The Republic of Stupidity
FDR - 450,000 casualties
Truman - 58,000 casualties
Bush - 3,600 casualties
oh that Bush, what a monster, wish we had more FDR dems to lead us in combat.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 1:05 am
Hey destroyed
We won WWII
Chimpy is simultaneously losing 2 wars ; what a "great leader" and "war president".
BTW
What was the number of military casualties for the Germans and the Japs combined ?
Do you know ?
Try about 7 or 8 MILLION ............
July 12th, 2007 at 1:11 amPIP,
If you had sources of information other than Fox, you would have heard of these studies. Do I have to do all your reading for you?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:11 amThanks “wayne†, but I’ve got another…..
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007 @ 1:02 am
It is my real name, you know. :)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 1:06 am
Well , now I do .........
July 12th, 2007 at 1:12 amReally? And you do? Are you saying that the bloodbath would have still occurred if you liberals didn’t convince us to pull out like cowards?
Comment by michael
Really. I do. And, eventually, the war that could not be won would end. And the instability created by the "secret war" in Cambodia and Laos would definitely have gotten the same results: a bloodbath.
Wars of occupation are never "won" unless the occupied are wiped out. I'm sure that would be fine with you, but civilized humans tend to avoid that kind of behavior.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:13 amWhat Michael Moore actually said was that FDR (he forgot Truman) won WWII in less time than W has secured the road from the Baghdad Airport to Downtown.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:13 amBecause you “choose†during the draft, didn’t you Michael?
You put me in my place, but forgot to mention that you Choose to join the Navy so you wouldn’t have to fight in the jungle.
Because you scare scared to fight in the jungle. That it Michael?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:09 am
Maybe it was a "Hobson's choice." The judge told him "Join the military or go to jail." They did that in those days. That would be one plausible explanation, until you get the facts from him. Assuming "michael" deals in facts.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:13 amHuckabee is right, though.
Obesity is preventable and curable. Eat less. Get some exercise.
You want to go after Big Pharma's profits? Lose weight!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:14 amHis claim that the war in Iraq increased terror was shot down left and right but he didn’t even defend his position!
I guess he was just making up stuff!
Comment by PiP
Actually, worldwide incidences of terrorism have skyrocketed the last few years. Either that, or the local gendarmes now claim "terrarist' whenever they're blackjacking someone in an alleyway.
NEW YORK - As speakers at the GOP convention trumpet Bush administration successes in the war on terrorism, an NBC News analysis of Islamic terrorism since Sept. 11, 2001, shows that attacks are on the rise worldwide — dramatically.
This is from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5889435
July 12th, 2007 at 1:14 am“Michael? did you join the Navy to do your Duty,
or to avoid ending up in a foxhole after the draft?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007″
Why do you want to know? Searching for an answer to tell your grandchildren when they ask you why you criticized the war on terror but were too much of a coward to fight for your family?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 1:05 am
Because it's considered "bravery" to be fighting in the wrong country , against the wrong people ?
That's good to know , GI Joke
July 12th, 2007 at 1:14 amBecause you scare scared to fight in the jungle. That it Michael?
Comment by willyloman
All predicated on the assumption that he isn't making this up entirely.
But, yeah, the people who spout sh!t like this are the ones who did their tour in Texas or Maryland. Certainly not in combat.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:15 amWell , now I do ………
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007 @ 1:12 am
You're welcome to visit my blog. There's even a picture of what I looked like almost thrity years ago.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:15 amHuckabee is right, though.
Obesity is preventable and curable. Eat less. Get some exercise.
You want to go after Big Pharma’s profits? Lose weight!
Comment by muckdog — July 12, 2007 @ 1:14 am
What does Michael Moore's weight have to do with "Sicko" ?
It's not him that is looking for medical help , so Huckleberry's contention is atypical for him ; it makes absolutely zero sense .......
Par for the course for that backwards-ass rube........
July 12th, 2007 at 1:16 amObviously liberals destroyed America thinks only American lives count. But Americans who died in Vietnam don't count. I'll bet she was at every anti-war protest there was during Nam--she is so opposed to American troops dying.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:16 amHey all,
Have you heard Michael Moore is fat? :-D
July 12th, 2007 at 1:17 amYou’re welcome to visit my blog. There’s even a picture of what I looked like almost thrity years ago.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Whoo. No way I'm posting photos like that. Too many broken hearts out there and I don't want them tracking me down.
:-)
July 12th, 2007 at 1:17 amoh that Bush, what a monster, wish we had more FDR dems to lead us in combat.
Comment by liberals destroyed america
Oh, for crying out loud, you deranged twit. WW II was an enormous catastrophe for the entire world. Bush voluntarily decided to attack and occupy Iraq. To compare the 2 like you just did is idiocy beyond belief. Whoever said it above was right. You're not stupid, you're crazy.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:17 am“Studies by 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, including the CIA, the FBI, the State Dept., and all four branches of the armed forces, revealed that the occupation of Iraq has contributed to an increase in the overall terrorist threat. And that studies by the University of Chicago, the Hoover Digest, the Cato Institute, Iraq Body Count, and the 2005 Human Security Report support these findings.â€
I didn’t do the studies. I’m just relaying the info.
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 1:08 am
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"has contributed to an increase in the overall terrorist threat."
Of what? To whom? and lastly... So?
You claimed that “the war in Iraq has INCREASED TERRORISM," however, there are many other factors that have done so as well.
This should have been obvious from the word "contributed," which implies that Iraq was not the sole cause of the increase. Yet you neglect to mention any of the other factors... I wonder why?
More to the point.
You will never prove causality, especially in a situation like this. The most you can honestly say is that there has been a positive correlation between an increase in overall terrorist threat and the US being i Iraq.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:18 amHey Zooey,
And Huckabee thinks The Flintstones was a documentary.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:18 amWhy do you want to know? Searching for an answer to tell your grandchildren when they ask you why you criticized the war on terror but were too much of a coward to fight for your family?
Comment by michael
You calling someone a coward Michael? Because of your 6 years, right? Gives you the right to do that? Your six years, in the Navy.
My father was career Navy, then R&D for 15 after that with honeywell. Developed guidance systems for very big torpedos. his was a submariner. 60s thru the 70s.
Lotta respect for his service. of course he joined before the draft. and stuck around and made a career out of it.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:18 amHave you heard Michael Moore is fat? :-D
Comment by Zooey
And apparently he's an Islamo-Commie fascist who hates Amerika, too!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:18 amHey all,
Have you heard Michael Moore is fat? :-D
Comment by Zooey
And sloppy. Don't forget sloppy.
Argggh. Too late here for moi, but I think it's cooling down enough to get some sleep. I'm not a huge fan of summer.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:19 amWell , now I do ………
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007 @ 1:12 am
You’re welcome to visit my blog. There’s even a picture of what I looked like almost thrity years ago.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 1:15 am
Am I correct to assume that Jane is your wife ?
Christ , now I'm singing the Jetsons , to your names .......
"Meet Wayne Schneider"..........."Jane , his wife"..............
July 12th, 2007 at 1:19 amThe most you can honestly say is that there has been a positive correlation between an increase in overall terrorist threat and the US being i Iraq.
Comment by PiP
So, now you want to debate. Splitting hairs, aren't we?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:20 amSen. Moynihan linked to the DC Madam should be huge news tomorrow. I can't wait to see it covered on the Today Show with Matt Lauer.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:20 amYou will never prove causality, especially in a situation like this. The most you can honestly say is that there has been a positive correlation between an increase in overall terrorist threat and the US being i Iraq.
Comment by PiP
The very rare cogent remark from pippy the troll.
There has been a positive correlation between the occupation of Iraq and an increase in the number of terrorists in Iraq. Yes.
Of course, this could just be the result of an increase in solar energy, in pippy's world.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:21 amAnd sloppy. Don’t forget sloppy.
Argggh. Too late here for moi, but I think it’s cooling down enough to get some sleep. I’m not a huge fan of summer.
Comment by gummitch
Totally sloppy, which is incredibly sexy. :-D
Supposed to cool down over the weekend -- you can make it!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:22 am"Obesity is preventable and curable. Eat less. Get some exercise.
You want to go after Big Pharma’s profits? Lose weight!"
Comment by muckdog — July 12, 2007 @ 1:14 am
Obesity is also sometimes caused by disease, such as hypothyroidism. And Big Pharma's exorbitant profits are not just based on health problems related to obesity. How many drug ads are shown in the commercial breaks on TV for sleep aids, ED (!), osteoporosis, asthma, the list goes on. Focusing on the filmmaker's weight problems as the sole factor contributing to the entire healthcare industry's high costs is disingenuous and despicable.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:22 amSo, now you want to debate. Splitting hairs, aren’t we?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 1:20 am
July 12th, 2007 at 1:22 am------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nope. that is what i have said the whole time. read my previous comments on the topic.
Take your argument to the 16 intelligence agencies of the USA. This post is about healthcare in the USA.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:22 amHey Zooey,
And Huckabee thinks The Flintstones was a documentary.
Comment by Keith G
I thought it was the Jetson's that was the documentary...?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:22 amread my previous comments on the topic.
Comment by PiP
Like dude, do you think i actually keep files on your "musings"?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:23 amAnd apparently he’s an Islamo-Commie fascist who hates Amerika, too!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Naturally. That's why he fits in so well with The Liberal Agenda (tm).
July 12th, 2007 at 1:24 amI thought it was the Jetson’s that was the documentary…?
Comment by Zooey
Not yet.
g'night all.
Oh, and trolls: look out for the voices under the bed!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:24 amNo, Huckabee says the reason the dinosaurs died off was over-hunting by Fred and Barney.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:24 amNo, Huckabee says the reason the dinosaurs died off was over-hunting by Fred and Barney.
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 1:24 am
It was actually Clinton that killed off all the dinosaurs ......According to ancient GOP records.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:26 amMCMetal, we don't have kids, but Wayne's got a "sister Judy" if you want to keep singing the Jetson's. No dogs, whether or not named Astro, but loads of cats!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:26 amCan't bring yourself to answer that question michael?
Did you join the Navy because of a desire to serve your country like my father did and these young men and women fighting now did? Or did you choose the Navy because you knew you were going to be drafted?
If your are going to use the service to call someone else a coward who was way to young then to be drrafted, you should be able to tell them honestly if you did your own service out of an act of
cowardice?
Fair question michael. you brought it up.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:26 amOh, and trolls: look out for the voices under the bed!
Comment by gummitch
You're not supposed to tell them about that.....!
Goodnight, gummitch.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:26 amTake your argument to the 16 intelligence agencies of the USA. This post is about healthcare in the USA.
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 1:22 am
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It's okay Keith G., at least you gave it a shot.
You're special too.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:26 amAm I correct to assume that Jane is your wife ?
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Yes, which is why I showed her how to post to my blog. Do you like cats and song parodies? Have fun.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:27 amGoodnight, Gummitch!
Hi, Zooey!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:28 amNo, Huckabee says the reason the dinosaurs died off was over-hunting by Fred and Barney.
Comment by Keith G
Is Huckabee one of those whacked out creationist dinosaurs on the Ark dudes?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:28 amHi Jane & Wayne!
I just got home from seeing the new Harry Potter movie. Fun!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:29 amMCMetal, we don’t have kids, but Wayne’s got a “sister Judy†if you want to keep singing the Jetson’s. No dogs, whether or not named Astro, but loads of cats!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 1:26 am
Am I correct to assume that Jane is your wife ?
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Yes, which is why I showed her how to post to my blog. Do you like cats and song parodies? Have fun.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 1:27 am
I'm actually a "dog person" ; and a professional musician .......I see you also have HuffPO and NewsHounds on your "list" ; 2 of the other places I frequent.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:30 amWhat was the number of military casualties for the Germans and the Japs combined ?
Do you know ?
Try about 7 or 8 MILLION …………
Comment by MCMetal — July 12, 2007 @ 1:11 am
Come now, you might hurt their delicate sensibilities, MCMetal. Are you really trying to suggest that the Germans, Italians and Japanese were PEOPLE? Get real. I mean, it's not like we were provoked into a war that had swept across the entire planet and ended up claiming tens of millions of lives. Was it REALLY important that America joining the Allies tipped the balance in their favor? Was it REALLY important that the 450,000 of our boys who died did so to make sure America didn't become a corporate owned state OR a fascist state?
Next you will try to convince me that the Republicans and their corporate sponsors did everything they could to delay our entry into the war because they were WAR PROFITEERING, selling weapons to both sides. Did the profiteers MEAN IT when they decided they wanted to back the Nazis, or were they just gambling on who they thought would win? It's not like their decision to sell weapons to the Nazis helped Dur Fuhrer with his agenda, right? It's not like those people stayed in power after they were caught war profiteering or anything. What possible interest could corporations have in supporting a state where corporate power and state power are intimately linked? It's not like that consolidates State power and corporate power into a single power base.
What, did some of the descendants of the war profiteers grow up to be President of the United States or something? Sheesh.
Oh, wait...
July 12th, 2007 at 1:30 amjust got home from seeing the new Harry Potter movie. Fun!!
Comment by Zooey
July 12th, 2007 at 1:30 amI just got home from seeing the new Harry Potter movie. Fun!!
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 1:29 am
Hi, Zooey. Was that the one where he was naked with a horse?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:30 amYes apparently Huckabee is. I forget if they were supposed to be on the ark or only before the ark. Hard to get all those dinos on the ark.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:31 amFair question michael. you brought it up.
Comment by willyloman
You must have started to debate michael -- that always makes him disappear.
Or he used up his quota of "?" for the day.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:31 amLieberman used to be a DINO. Now he's an IINO.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:31 amDo you know why Harry Potter wears glasses?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:32 amLieberman used to be a DINO. Now he’s an IINO.
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 1:31 am
And our imbecilic president is a WINO.
How convenient.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:32 amHi, Zooey. Was that the one where he was naked with a horse?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
I'd say "I wish!" but he's underage, so I'll say -- No, Wayne, it's not.
Heh.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:33 amYou must have started to debate michael — that always makes him disappear.
Or he used up his quota of “?†for the day.
Comment by Zooey
and I thought I had found the chink in his armor.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:33 amOh, wait…
Comment by Moderation — July 12, 2007 @ 1:30 am
Prescott Bush ; what a tremendous background Chimpy emerged from , huh ?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:33 amI’d say “I wish!†but he’s underage, so I’ll say — No, Wayne, it’s not.
Heh.
Comment by Zooey
He's like 24 isn't he?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:34 amYes apparently Huckabee is. I forget if they were supposed to be on the ark or only before the ark. Hard to get all those dinos on the ark.
Comment by Keith G
Imagine the carnage.....
July 12th, 2007 at 1:34 amBecause he played with his magic wand too much.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:34 amYou must have started to debate michael — that always makes him disappear.
Or he used up his quota of “?†for the day.
Comment by Zooey
and I thought I had found the chink in his armor.
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:33 am
You did........It's commonly referred to as lack of working brain cells.
Or in layman's terms : a complete imbecile.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:35 amDo you know why Harry Potter wears glasses?
Comment by Keith G
So we can differentiate him from all the other teenaged boys with magic wands?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:35 amPrescott Bush ; what a tremendous background Chimpy emerged from , huh ?
Comment by MCMetal
Did you know, in 1951 the Feds gave him back the money they made from doing business with the Nazis during the war?
They say that is the money that 41 used to go to Texas and get into oil.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:35 amI’d say “I wish!†but he’s underage, so I’ll say — No, Wayne, it’s not.
Heh.
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 1:33 am
Daniel Jacob Radcliffe was born on July 23rd, 1989.
You only have to wait a couple of more weeks.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:35 amHe’s like 24 isn’t he?
Comment by willyloman
Oh lordy, I don't think he's that old. Maybe 16-17?
24 is still too young in Zooey World, since I promised "the men" I wouldn't date anyone their age or younger. :-)
July 12th, 2007 at 1:37 amanswer at #292
July 12th, 2007 at 1:38 amYou only have to wait a couple of more weeks.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Shit, he's younger than my baby!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:39 amComment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:35 am
"I was not aware of that." Interesting factoid, you should put stuff like that up on your blog. :-)
July 12th, 2007 at 1:39 amanswer at #292
Comment by Keith G
Well, he's not quite blind.... :D
July 12th, 2007 at 1:40 amI didn't read any of the comments before I showed up. Did I miss the fun?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:41 am“I was not aware of that.†Interesting factoid, you should put stuff like that up on your blog. :-)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
July 12th, 2007 at 1:42 amI will do that. perk the old site up alittle with Nazi warprofiteering trivia
Hi, Zooey. Was that the one where he was naked with a horse?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 1:30 am
I will take the liberty of answering this one, since no one else has. No, that was his recent stint in the play "Equus" on the London stage.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:43 amI didn’t read any of the comments before I showed up. Did I miss the fun?
Comment by Zooey
They established that M. Moore is fat.
He is a Islamo-Stalinist
Michael wont answer questions about why he joined the Navy
I'm an Islamo-Stalinist and so is every one else.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:44 amPrescott Bush ; what a tremendous background Chimpy emerged from , huh ?
Comment by MCMetal
Did you know, in 1951 the Feds gave him back the money they made from doing business with the Nazis during the war?
They say that is the money that 41 used to go to Texas and get into oil.
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:35 am
It started even before Prescott. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the facts in this link, but...
http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/bushfamily.html
July 12th, 2007 at 1:44 amHay Lady Z, Wayne and Jane......Heard on late night last night he will be 18 later this week...Was the movie good.?..Also heard he played the nude scenes on stage...Don't know if it is true...
Hope the weather is cool for every one else, hot here, 96 today....
I didn't know Michael Moore was fat, guess it's time to get the bifocal's replaced.LOL,,,.Sorry off topic, nightg all...Blessings
July 12th, 2007 at 1:46 am"Shit, he’s younger than my baby!"
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 1:39 am
Your point being...? ;-)
July 12th, 2007 at 1:46 amDo you not read the news? It was just reported that Iraqi officials have declared that if we pull out soon, it would be a disaster! I know the liberals want to repeat the bloodbath they created in Cambodia in the 70’s but must they be so blatant about it?
Comment by michael — July 12, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Re: your statement that you "know the liberals want to repeat the bloodbath they created in Cambodia in the 70’s", please cite the source of your knowledge regarding this matter.
The Iraqi leaders, whose continuation in power is maintained at gunpoint by the U.S. occupation, may or may not necessarily represent the views of the Iraqi people. One of the earlier selling points for the U.S. occupation of Iraq was to promote democracy. If I recall correctly, this refers to the will of the people, not leaders who continuation in office depends upon their willingness to serve as puppets serving U.S. interests. Whatever occurs in Iraq in the future, shouldn't the people who live there (not just the leaders) have some say in what happens to their country?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:46 amI will take the liberty of answering this one, since no one else has. No, that was his recent stint in the play “Equus†on the London stage.
Comment by Lora
I guess I should have said that. :)
July 12th, 2007 at 1:46 amComment by Lora — July 12, 2007 @ 1:43 am
Thank you, Lora. I knew that. I forgot to include the little "winky-face" emoticon to show I was kidding.
Besides, he is way too young for Zooey. I doubt she wants to have Little Zoo call his younger step-father "Dad".
July 12th, 2007 at 1:47 amYour right Wayne. They go all the way back to the inception of the federal reserve. wow.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:47 amI think Wayne Schneider just run into a post where michael outed himself as Liberals Destroyed America here.
Yet another Bush supporter who has to resort to sock puppets to try to fool others (and himself) into thinking their opinions are popular.
Idiotic fools.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:47 amHey there, Sharon! Hugs from Wayne and I!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:48 amComment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 1:46 am
It's oaky, Zooey. You got distracted.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:48 amThey established that M. Moore is fat.
He is a Islamo-Stalinist
Michael wont answer questions about why he joined the Navy
I’m an Islamo-Stalinist and so is every one else.
Comment by willyloman
Oh. So nothing new -- SSDD.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:48 amThanks!
I didn’t know Michael Moore was fat, guess it’s time to get the bifocal’s replaced.LOL,,,.Sorry off topic, nightg all…Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Hi Great Lady,
Nice seeing you here, even if for only a moment. :)
Goodnight.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:50 amOh. So nothing new — SSDD.
Thanks!
Comment by Zooey
No. Last week they called M. Moore a huge man cow. Now he's just fat. he must have lost some weight
July 12th, 2007 at 1:50 amOn topic.
You know your detractors have no actual arguments when they have to use personal attacks to undermine your point.
And that is exactly what Huckabee and the trolls are doing to Michael Moore: Unable to make a strong case against Moore's movie, they point their fingers at him and say "Look at him! He's fat... eeww!! "
Trolls: That is not an argument. It's more like a childish taunt.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:51 amand Moore and Edwards are "insanely rich" and Moore spends too much on his haircuts and Edwards is sloppy. Or was that the other way around?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:51 amBesides, he is way too young for Zooey. I doubt she wants to have Little Zoo call his younger step-father “Dadâ€.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider —
Well, you can never tell about that, Wayne. Did you read on the Huffington Post about the 27-yr. old son of Osama bin Laden who is about to marry a 51-yr. old British woman?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:51 amThen there's always the reverse like Fred Thompson married to a woman younger than his oldest daughter.
Hey, Lora, saw you slapping Tracy around on the other thread - good work!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:52 amYour point being…? ;-)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Besides, he is way too young for Zooey. I doubt she wants to have Little Zoo call his younger step-father “Dadâ€.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
See #296 for the explanation. :)
"Little Zoo" *snort* He's at least 6'3".
July 12th, 2007 at 1:53 amYou know your detractors have no actual arguments when they have to use personal attacks to undermine your point.
And that is exactly what Huckabee and the trolls are doing to Michael Moore: Unable to make a strong case against Moore’s movie, they point their fingers at him and say “Look at him! He’s fat… eeww!! â€
Trolls: That is not an argument. It’s more like a childish taunt.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
Remember how hard they went after Hillary 14 years ago? They are going to do the same thing here. It started with Sanjay Gupta and its just going to get worse.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:53 amthere is a reason we have elected leaders in a republic. its because the huddled masses are irrational, uninformed, and frankly not qualified to make major policy decisions. polling the average person on foreign policy is stupid. a watress, a steel worker, a gym teacher, a garbage man, these average folks are not qualified to judge military needs or strategic defense, not here or in iraq.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 12, 2007 @ 1:02 am
I would contend that the people in this country who are contributing those who are fighting and dying in Iraq and forgoing other priorities to pay for the U.S. occupation of Iraq should have some say in what happens with their lives, family members and tax monies. I would also contend that when "the huddled masses" are provided with truly balanced information, collectively they are able to make some very sound judgments.
In my post, I referred to the Iraqi people voting on whether the United States (a foreign occupying force) remains in their country. For them, that is not a foreign, but rather a domestic policy matter. Are you actually saying that the Iraqi people are too stupid to render a valid judgment as to whether they would prefer to deal with the consequences of the United States remaining versus leaving?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:54 amHug's back at ya all....Blessings
July 12th, 2007 at 1:55 amNo. Last week they called M. Moore a huge man cow. Now he’s just fat. he must have lost some weight
Comment by willyloman
Munching on Blitzer snacks must be pretty healthy!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:55 amand Moore and Edwards are “insanely rich†and Moore spends too much on his haircuts and Edwards is sloppy. Or was that the other way around?
Comment by Keith G
No, I think that's right, Keith. :)
What is the big deal about Edwards spending WAY too much of his OWN MONEY on his haircuts? Who cares?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:57 amComment by curmudgeon
they have no say in the matter. it's a matter of law. We broke international law and illegally invaded another nation for it's resources. That is the law. not up to a vote. We have to get out. period. Did the Kuwaitis vote about whether or not Saddam stayed?
I understand your point, in I think in matters of law...there is the law and there is policy. Policy can be voted on but the law is absolute. Or at least, should be.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:59 amWhen W is traveling around and gets a haircut, it is like $800, but the media can't say that.
I haven't seen Sicko yet, because it is supposed to be pretty difficult to get in. It sure was hard to get a ticket to F911.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:01 amI haven’t seen Sicko yet, because it is supposed to be pretty difficult to get in. It sure was hard to get a ticket to F911.
Comment by Keith G
it's worth the effort.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:02 amHey, Lora, saw you slapping Tracy around on the other thread - good work!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 1:52 am
Oh, Tracy, is really something--trying to make me feel guilty for not going into the military, when he has never done so himself. And, of course, he sees nothing wrong in the fact that none of the Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, etc. children, including their nieces and nephews, is engaged in this so-called noble war, either. Tracy is the ultimate hypocritical chickenhawk.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:03 amWhat is the big deal about Edwards spending WAY too much of his OWN MONEY on his haircuts? Who cares?
Comment by Zooey
The big thing is the contrast. he is for the poor people, but they say he's rich. Of course all these trolls respect in life is money, so it is total crap.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:03 amWhat is the big deal about Edwards spending WAY too much of his OWN MONEY on his haircuts? Who cares?
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 1:57 am
They have nothing else to say, so they pick on his looks, which, in this case, are good.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:04 amMan, I saw SiCKO the other day...
... I'll tell ya'
IT SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:04 amComment by willyloman
The invasion was illegal (Kofi Anon said so), the occupation is illegal, and the selling off of their resources is illegal. When the US signs an international law, it becomes the law of the US.
I believe polls say over 80% of Iraqis want us out ASAP and the majority agree with attacks on our troops.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:04 amIt just wasn't entertaining...
July 12th, 2007 at 2:06 am... I would not recommend the film.
I would also contend that when “the huddled masses†are provided with truly balanced information, collectively they are able to make some very sound judgments.
Comment by curmudgeon — July 12, 2007 @ 1:54 am
Shhhhhh. You're giving away all their secrets. You're not allowed in their Super-Secret, Fantabulous One-Hundred-Story, 2,000 Acre Clubhouse anymore! You know damned well they cannot abide educated masses! Why, an educated voting base might never, ever, in all of history vote for such dishonest, corrupt, morally bankrupt individuals. Why, if the people KNOW that they're being lied to, they might not vote FOR the liars!
That was, in fact, one of the reasons the Founding Fathers wanted the Fourth Estate to be so prevalent, so powerful, and essentially uncontrolled by the government: to keep We the People informed, enlightened, and able to properly take part in our form of government. Since we stopped teaching Civics, and have severely limited the teaching of History, Sociology and Politics in our public schools, the elitist plans to keep the masses uneducated, and voting against their own self-interests has been working brilliantly.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:06 amMan, I saw SiCKO the other day…
… I’ll tell ya’
IT SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 2:04 am
It just wasn’t entertaining…
… I would not recommend the film.
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 2:06 am
You must be an insurance company CEO. Everyone else said it was great.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:07 amComment by Lora
I gave Michael a bunch of crap because he was jumping on people calling them cowards because they didn't sign up and he served 6 years in the USN.
I asked him and he said early70 is when he signed up.
So I asked him if he joined the Navy so he wouldn't be drafted into the Army, and that was the last we heard of Michael.
I hate hypocracy.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:07 amI haven’t seen Sicko yet, because it is supposed to be pretty difficult to get in. It sure was hard to get a ticket to F911.
Comment by Keith G
The closest place SICKO is showing is over 100 miles away. I hope it comes here. If not, I'll definitely buy it on DVD.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:07 amNow isn't everyone here shocked that pip did not like Sicko. He must be masochistic to even go.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:07 amI put it in my queue on Netflix.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:08 amComment by Moderation — July 12, 2007 @ 2:06 am
Which is why we have to do something about the media consolidation going in this country. Too few people control too much of the media the public sees.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:09 amI believe polls say over 80% of Iraqis want us out ASAP and the majority agree with attacks on our troops.
Comment by Keith G
yep. Law against us staying and so are the people.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:09 amthe FOX reviewer said it was well-done
July 12th, 2007 at 2:10 amYou saw Sicko, PiP?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:10 amYou must be an insurance company CEO. Everyone else said it was great.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:10 amComment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 2:07 am
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No, but I play one on TP.
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 2:07 am
Until he proves otherwise, I'm sticking with the judge theory.
Here come da judge!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:10 amHere come da judge!
Hell NO!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:10 amThe big thing is the contrast. he is for the poor people, but they say he’s rich. Of course all these trolls respect in life is money, so it is total crap.
Comment by willyloman
They make it sound like he's out smacking around single mothers and bums for his haircut money.
I think if he's paying that much for his haircut, it really ought to look better.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:11 amyeah, thats what i thought. One more PiP lie for the books
July 12th, 2007 at 2:11 amNo, but I play one on TP.
Comment by PiP — July 12, 2007 @ 2:10 am
LOL. I knew you had a sense of humor. Now start using it for the forces of good instead of the forces of evil. I know evil pays more, but at least it doesn't cost you your soul.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:12 amhehehe
see y' soon libtards!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:12 amWhat is the big deal about Edwards spending WAY too much of his OWN MONEY on his haircuts? Who cares?
Comment by Zooey
The big thing is the contrast. he is for the poor people, but they say he’s rich. Of course all these trolls respect in life is money, so it is total crap.
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 2:03 am
He is selling out "his kind". The upper class is very compartmentalized from the middle and lower classes in this country. Edwards is one of the elite who thinks it is wrong that "his people" are getting richer and richer every year, and the power of Capital increases year after year, while the poor in this country don't make enough money to survive and the power of Labor goes down.
Edwards understands that Labor can survive without Capital, but Capital cannot survive without Labor. Edwards understands that we are all equal, and he is no better than anyone else. John Edwards is a compassionate, caring human being with real leadership qualities, and far-sighted vision that can raise all of humanity higher, not just the elite.
See? He's disappointing "his kind" immensely, so they must use their vast resources to destroy him.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:12 amNow isn’t everyone here shocked that pip did not like Sicko. He must be masochistic to even go.
Comment by Keith G
I doubt he's telling the truth -- he's always HERE.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:13 amIslamo-Stalinist
July 12th, 2007 at 2:13 amConservatives used to attack JFK for being "a traitor to his class".
July 12th, 2007 at 2:13 amhehehe
see y’ soon libtards!
Comment by PiP
Thank goodness, he's gone. Let's resume talking about him.....
July 12th, 2007 at 2:14 amHe is selling out “his kindâ€.
That's a good point. Like free secondary education. If people got into schools based solely on their abilities and work ethic, you think Chimpy would have a degree from Yale?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:15 am"I doubt he’s telling the truth — he’s always HERE."
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 2:13 am
Plus he would have mentioned it sooner, I would think.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:16 amSee? He’s disappointing “his kind†immensely, so they must use their vast resources to destroy him.
Comment by Moderation
Like Keith says, he's a class-traitor.
Jeebus.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:17 amChimpy could not get into a Texas prep school or the U of T. He had to go where he was a legacy.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:17 amIf he did see it, he wouldn't admit it. Because even the trolls out there that see it say it's good.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:18 amPlus he would have mentioned it sooner, I would think.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I was hoping no one would respond to Pip. It was fun watching him beg for attention. :D
July 12th, 2007 at 2:18 amMichael Moore is fat.
He's also right.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:19 amI was hoping no one would respond to Pip. It was fun watching him beg for attention. :D
Comment by Zooey
Danger with that is you start to feel sorry for him. then all is lost
July 12th, 2007 at 2:19 amI pointed out that the 5 Waltons have two thousand times as much money as Edwards but didn't get a reply from the trolls.
Romney I guess has about 10 times as much.
But Edwards is "insanely rich".
July 12th, 2007 at 2:19 amI was hoping no one would respond to Pip. It was fun watching him beg for attention. :D
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 2:18 am
I've been trying to turn him toward the forces of light. I guess the dark side can be pretty powerful. It's got some trolls here locked in tight.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:20 amMichael Moore is fat.
He’s also right.
Comment by War4Sale
Are you implying a connection?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:20 amI pointed out that the 5 Waltons have two thousand times as much money as Edwards but didn’t get a reply from the trolls.
Comment by Keith G — July 12, 2007 @ 2:19 am
Don't you love how the Walton children turned Sam's "Buy American" campaign into a huge trade deficit with China?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:21 amBut Edwards is “insanely richâ€.
Comment by Keith G
Who is that Mexican guy that NAFTA made so rich?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:21 amDon’t you love how the Walton children turned Sam’s “Buy American†campaign into a huge trade deficit with China?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
I liked how they all said good night to each other as they turned out the lights...and then all crawled around and played "touchy touchy" in the dark.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:23 amDanger with that is you start to feel sorry for him. then all is lost
Comment by willyloman
No way, not anymore.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:23 amAre you implying a connection?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 2:20 am
Nope, quite the opposite. I mean...he is fat, as Republicans point out, but that does not refute his argument that Americans are getting screwed on healthcare. It's just character assassination designed to distract from the issue.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:23 amPee seems to love the idea of a Roman emperor conquering large slices of the world and taking spoils.
To rationalize this, you have to say how evil the natives are.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:24 amI’ve been trying to turn him toward the forces of light. I guess the dark side can be pretty powerful. It’s got some trolls here locked in tight.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
I wish you good luck with that, Wayne. Maybe you have more patience than I do.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:25 amTo rationalize this, you have to say how evil the natives are.
Comment by Keith G
The Noble Lie #2. National Destiny to bring "democracy" to a dark and savage world.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:26 amHuckabee is a total nitwit with no kind of class.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:27 amI wish you good luck with that, Wayne. Maybe you have more patience than I do.
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 2:25 am
Well I did convince a life-long Republican co-worker in her mid-fifites to vote entirely for Democrats last year, so I'm thinking I might have chance. Of course, I have been accused of being crazy before. Usually by my mother.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:27 amPee seems to love the idea of a Roman emperor conquering large slices of the world and taking spoils.
To rationalize this, you have to say how evil the natives are.
Comment by Keith G
Maybe he hasn't learned what happened to the Roman Empire yet...?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:27 amNope, quite the opposite. I mean…he is fat, as Republicans point out, but that does not refute his argument that Americans are getting screwed on healthcare. It’s just character assassination designed to distract from the issue.
Comment by War4Sale
I was trying to be funny. i failed horribly. just...horribly.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:28 amWell I did convince a life-long Republican co-worker in her mid-fifites to vote entirely for Democrats last year, so I’m thinking I might have chance. Of course, I have been accused of being crazy before. Usually by my mother.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
How do you know she really did it?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:29 amChomsky interview:
Around 1988 I think there was one Mexican billionaire, now there are 24. Meanwhile the population in deep poverty extended from about 13% to about 24%.
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/25a/005.html
July 12th, 2007 at 2:29 amFolks....just ignore the trolls.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:29 amOh, sorry, Willy. It was probably me, not you!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:29 amWell I did convince a life-long Republican co-worker in her mid-fifites to vote entirely for Democrats last year, so I’m thinking I might have chance. Of course, I have been accused of being crazy before. Usually by my mother.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
I'm guessing this woman had some sort of Maturity Factor going? :)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:30 amwillyloman, you got the Virginia Waltons and the Arkansas Waltons mixed up.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:31 amChomsky interview:
Around 1988 I think there was one Mexican billionaire, now there are 24. Meanwhile the population in deep poverty extended from about 13% to about 24%.
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/25a/005.html
Comment by Keith G
i'm reading his "9-11" and "The New Military Humanism"
July 12th, 2007 at 2:32 amHow do you know she really did it?
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 2:29 am
I understand your skepticism, but I trust her. She would not have told me she did, in the way that she did, just to shut me up or anything. She actually feels good about what she did. And all I told her was that if she wanted to vote Republican, please give it another thought. I did NOT tell her to vote for the Democrats. That was her choice.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:32 amWho is that Mexican guy that NAFTA made so rich?
Comment by willyloman
Carlos Slim, willy?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:32 am"I’m guessing this woman had some sort of Maturity Factor going? :)"
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 2:30 am
Do you mean the co-worker, or Wayne's mother? ;-)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:33 amI did NOT tell her to vote for the Democrats. That was her choice.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Just to be sure, next time place a lapel pin wireless camera on her hat.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:33 amDo you mean the co-worker, or Wayne’s mother? ;-)
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Surprise me!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:34 amI was trying to be funny. i failed horribly. just…horribly.
Comment by willyloman
Practice, my man, practice. I'm working on a home-study course I'll be bringing to market soon...
July 12th, 2007 at 2:34 amNo. it's the Same Billionaire Waltons. They're kinky like that. The rich really are different.
You think the John Boy would play "touchy touchy"! Communist!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:35 ami’m reading his “9-11″ and “The New Military Humanismâ€
Comment by willyloman
I've read about six of his books and have not found one single word to be false. Since he is about the top linguist in the world also, he is quite careful in choosing his words.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:36 amI’m working on a home-study course I’ll be bringing to market soon…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 2:34 am
I'll take one!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:36 amYou think the John Boy would play “touchy touchyâ€! Communist!
Comment by willyloman
He'd never do it, but he really really wants to.....
July 12th, 2007 at 2:36 amWasn't John-Boy a left-wing journalist?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 amCarlos Slim, willy?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
First time I read the name I thought he had to be a Pimp. i thought, thats a loota hookin going on to make him the richest man in the world. Either that or he's got himself one FINE ho.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:38 amWasn’t John-Boy a left-wing journalist?
Comment by Keith G
Yeah, he had to go underground because he was a.......mole.
:-D
July 12th, 2007 at 2:39 amWasn’t John-Boy a left-wing journalist?
Comment by Keith G
July 12th, 2007 at 2:39 amI’ll take one!
Comment by War4Sale
Alllll righty!!! A wise choice, War4Sale... you'll have them rolling in the aisles in no time!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:39 amYeah, he had to go underground because he was a…….mole.
:-D
Comment by Zooey
thats right elevate the conversation
July 12th, 2007 at 2:39 amYeah, he had to go underground because he was a…….mole.
:-D
Comment by Zooey
Ka-bang! (Rim shot!!)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:40 amChomsky's the man. Reading him truly changes the way you look at the world. Suddenly, history and foreign policy start to make sense (albeit in a very dark way.)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:40 amCarlos Slim, willy?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Oh. I thought that was descriptive -- not a name. :P
July 12th, 2007 at 2:40 amWasn’t John-Boy a left-wing journalist?
Comment by Keith G
BLASPHEMER!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:41 amOh. I thought that was descriptive — not a name. :P
Comment by Zooey
That's actually supposed to be his name...
July 12th, 2007 at 2:42 amSorry Willy & TRoS,
I'm up way too late, and I couldn't resist. :)
War4Sale, I really recommend that humor home-study course TRoS is whoring......er, selling. It worked for me!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:42 amChomsky’s the man. Reading him truly changes the way you look at the world. Suddenly, history and foreign policy start to make sense (albeit in a very dark way.)
Comment by War4Sale
History starts to make sense because all the stuff the left out or sanitized fills in the gaps.
you can see a thru-line, if you will.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:44 amThat’s actually supposed to be his name…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
My sympathies to Mrs Slim Willy.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:44 amthat humor home-study course TRoS is whoring……er, selling. It worked for me!!
Comment by Zooey
Madam!!! I resemble that remark!
(Pssst... oh, Zooey... I've got some cheese..)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:45 amCarlos Slim Helu: He controls Teléfonos de México (Telmex), Telcel and América Móvil companies.
Recent gains in his shares in the America Movil group are largely responsible for his recent increase in wealth, boosting his fortune to an estimated 67.8 billion dollars compared with the estimated fortune of 59.2 billion dollars for Bill Gates.
I thought the Mexican phone company was Taco Bell.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:45 amMy sympathies to Mrs Slim Willy.
Comment by Zooey
July 12th, 2007 at 2:46 amMy sympathies to Mrs Slim Willy.
Comment by Zooey
that's right. elevate the conversation right up to the gutter.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:47 amThe 100 military invasions of other countries don't make sense unless you use the Chomsky viewpoint. Then it makes perfect sense.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 amI’m up way too late, and I couldn’t resist. :)
War4Sale, I really recommend that humor home-study course TRoS is whoring……er, selling. It worked for me!!
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 2:42 am
And here we thought it was the White Zin!
And on that note...I've got to get some sleep - oh, shit, it's almost 3am?! Goodnight!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 amMadam!!! I resemble that remark!
(Pssst… oh, Zooey… I’ve got some cheese..)
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
I heard that about you, TRoS. :)
What kind of cheese...?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 am(Pssst… oh, Zooey… I’ve got some cheese..)
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
are you trying to cheese up Zooey behind my back?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:49 amgoodnight jane
July 12th, 2007 at 2:49 amthat’s right. elevate the conversation right up to the gutter.
Comment by willyloman
I can't help it!!
Y'all love it....
July 12th, 2007 at 2:49 am"My sympathies to Mrs Slim Willy."
Comment by Zooey
Wait, there's someone named "Slim Willy"? :D
Bye!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:49 amI thought the Mexican phone company was Taco Bell.
Comment by Keith G
Ya datadatadatdata da tadada, yadadadata da... boom-chick, boom-chick, boom-boom-chick-...
What that elephant was doing in my pajamas, I'll never know!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:49 amGoodnight, willy...goodnight John-Boy!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:50 amWhen Microsoft's shares were at their peak, Gates was worth $100 billion--- equaling the bottom 50% of American's net worth.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:50 amAnd here we thought it was the White Zin!
And on that note…I’ve got to get some sleep - oh, shit, it’s almost 3am?! Goodnight!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
Hell, I'm stone-cold sober. Heh.
Goodnight Jane & Wayne!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:50 amWhat kind of cheese…?
Comment by Zooey
Cheddar... pure, uncut, unadulterated Cheddar...
July 12th, 2007 at 2:51 amIf you are hunting ivory, you should go to Alabama. Because the Tuscaloosa there.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:51 amI thought the Mexican phone company was Taco Bell.
Comment by Keith G
Keith did it, too!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:52 amare you trying to cheese up Zooey behind my back?
Comment by willyloman
Nah, I'm doing it right in front of you!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:52 amIt's late, I'm getting punchy.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:53 amIf you are hunting ivory, you should go to Alabama. Because the Tuscaloosa there.
Comment by Keith G
Ewwww... I hope you're not spending good money on this material...
July 12th, 2007 at 2:53 amCheddar… pure, uncut, unadulterated Cheddar…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
bastard!
don't listen to him Zooey! (word on the street is his cheese has a fungus)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:53 amCheddar… pure, uncut, unadulterated Cheddar…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
You make that sound so....intriguing.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:53 amGood night, all. I have to get up before Jane does.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:54 amthe kind you can't scape off!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:54 amdon’t listen to him Zooey! (word on the street is his cheese has a fungus)
Comment by willyloman
I beg to differ. There is no French blood in my family, Good Mr Loman!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 amnight wanye
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 amthose two elephant jokes, yours and mine, both came from the same Marx Brox skit.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:56 amIt’s late, I’m getting punchy.
Comment by Keith G
You're good punchy!
I don't know how these East coasters do it....
July 12th, 2007 at 2:56 amYou make that sound so….intriguing.
Comment by Zooey
If you would prefer, I could cut some for you...
July 12th, 2007 at 2:56 amI beg to differ. There is no French blood in my family, Good Mr Loman!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Just make sure he washes that cheese...
July 12th, 2007 at 2:57 amhose two elephant jokes, yours and mine, both came from the same Marx Brox skit.
Comment by Keith G
Ah yes, the classics! What did Keith Richardson once say about that?
"Everyone steals. The smart ones steal from the greats!"
And remember, there ain't no sanity clause!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:58 amgood night everyone
July 12th, 2007 at 2:58 amdon’t listen to him Zooey! (word on the street is his cheese has a fungus)
Comment by willyloman
I beg to differ. There is no French blood in my family, Good Mr Loman!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Good thing for you there's none in my family either. :D
July 12th, 2007 at 2:59 amJust make sure he washes that cheese…
Comment by willyloman
Whatsa matter, the "5 Second Rule" not good enough for ya???
July 12th, 2007 at 2:59 amIf you would prefer, I could cut some for you…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Not tonight, I have a headache.....
July 12th, 2007 at 3:00 amWhatsa matter, the “5 Second Rule†not good enough for ya???
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
In your case sir, we KNOW where that cheese has been, and 5 seconds isn't NEARLY enough.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:01 amGoodnight, Keith. Always a pleasure. :)
July 12th, 2007 at 3:01 amNIght all!
(Zooey... Willy... I find out you've been talking cheese when I'm gone...)
July 12th, 2007 at 3:01 amNot tonight, I have a headache…..
Comment by Zooey
Ha. heeheeheehee...pant pant pant....heeheeheehee
July 12th, 2007 at 3:02 amUm, no we haven't!!
Heh.
Goodnight, willy & TRoS.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 amNight.
I'm out to zooey. nice talking with all of you.
cheesy dreams
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 amHuckabee can't debate Moore on the issues so he has chosen to attack him personally. He recently said that more troops are needed in Iraq. He has no credibility left. If he is so wrong on the issue of Iraq he can't be expected to be logical about any other issue. Moore has no political agenda here. Huckabee who is running for the GOP presidential nomination does. Moore is on higher ground because he was right about the war from the beginning. A majority of Americans would agree with Moore's assessment of our inept health care system. Just like they agree with Moore on the ineptitude of Bush and the Iraq war.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 amI have just reported the blatant namejacking of Zooey's account above.
I hope your IPs get banned. You don't mess with Zooey as long as I am here!
July 12th, 2007 at 5:06 amIs Mr. Huckabee suggesting that thin people don't get sick?
July 12th, 2007 at 6:05 amWell said Ms O'Hara. Isn't Huckleberry the guy who claims to be a good Catholic?
July 12th, 2007 at 6:53 amI don’t know how these East coasters do it….
Comment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 2:56 am
Not very well, my friend. Not very well.
Well, off to work. Good day all.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:09 amI blame the children. They get sick all the time; they fall down and hurt themselves; they need all sorts of shots. And some of them are fat.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:13 am...and they don't even have jobs, the little bastards.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:14 amPlease looking more into Edwards Healthcare Plan. His medicare plus is single payer, and will make the insurance companies compete with medicare. They can't compete because their overhead is too high. They will go out of business.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:35 amI thought the same thing about Moores health and weight. In addition to the health cost of being obese his carbon foot print from the food that needs to be produced for him must be huge also. How many seats does he take on a plane? Needs a front end loader to take him anywhere. He's a freakin nation unto himself.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:39 amfat boy does need to get out and walk some. lay off the KFC
July 12th, 2007 at 7:45 amIf I were a terrorist I would explode car bombs outside every major main stream media head quarters at shift change. But since I'm not I can only hope someone doesn't and splatter our most famous talking heads across the roadway. Please dont murder them while we watch during the 5 o'clock run terrorists. Not at 5:05 while we are watching....please dont car bomb them. Please do not.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:49 amThanx Ann
I'll pretend to cry if you do.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:50 amAnother piece of Southern chickenhawk trash. Couldn't Sherman have gone through Arkansas and leveled that shit state.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:57 amOy, trollish morons:
Clinton left America with the economy at highs it hasn't seen since. You claim he left you a recession: Bush was in power and cutting taxes when the recession hit.
You claim he left you with the terrorism hot potato: WTC 1 Clinton wasn't in power two months when the terrorists hit and...
HE DIDN'T BLAME BUSH SNR! Shocking innit? Particularly seen as president "Took more leave in six years then any president in the Whitehouse has done since they started recording how much leave the president takes" had 9 months to 9/11.
You Republicans like to blame the previous administration, just like the good little communists you really are. You run around talking about how you are the party of personal responsibility, here is an idea, why don't you TAKE SOME.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:59 amIf some lunatic was to firebomb Chris Mathews home while he slept I would be outraged. I would despise that person for their violence and yet I would raise money for their bail because you are supposed to help your fellow man. I hope it doesn't happen soon, but if it does, we should all pitch in.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:59 amWho is that High yellow man on Morning Joe? Creepy when you see a colored pretend he's white. Try again boy, the crop is yonder.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:04 am#469........Publish his address.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:11 amhttp://mediabloodhound.typepad.com/weblog/
July 12th, 2007 at 8:14 amI thought the Mexican phone company was Taco Bell.
Comment by Keith G
No Taco Bell is a secret terrorist organization.
What people don't realize is you eat one of those burrito bombs and a few hours it goes off. If you happen to be in a closed room it has a chance of killing you and everyone in the room. Chemical warfare. That methane can be deadly
/snark
July 12th, 2007 at 8:59 am=D
CONGRESS SETS UP BUSH.......
BUYS DIRTY BOMB MATERIAL WITH JUST A P.O. BOX!
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/12/us/12nuke.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
DAVID GREGORY AMUSED YET?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:04 am** Mike who?? **
July 12th, 2007 at 9:07 amCONGRESS SETS UP BUSH…….
BUYS DIRTY BOMB MATERIAL WITH JUST A P.O. BOX!
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 07/ 12/ us/ 12nuke.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
DAVID GREGORY AMUSED YET?
Comment by TINA
They are too busy listening to your phone calls to mom, reading the emails your boyfriend sent you and spying on your reading list at the public library to do any real police work to actually protect us from terrorist, don't you know?
Yeah that article is really scary
July 12th, 2007 at 9:11 amMeanwhile, Michael Moore who continues to bash the healthcare system (some of it justified) and pharmaceutical companies gets richer and richer through his stock in pharmaceutical companies.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:16 amNow this just ain't right. Michael Moore should know not to sass back to a nice man like Mr. Huckabee! Michael needs to tell his sins at http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpress.com/2007/07/12/ten-commandment-thursday-tell-your-sins/ and so should you!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:24 amYes, Michael Moore is fat and could stand to shed some tonnage. And yes, Huckabee did a great job of shedding his own tonnage and serves as a good example to the rest of us in that department.
That said -- I really don't care. The US health care system is in dismal shape. It doesn't matter to me if the person aiming the spotlight on the carnage is a fat, sedentary chain-smoker or a buff vegetarian marathoner -- or anyone in between (I don't wish to imply that MM smokes). It's the message here that's important -- not the messenger.
I can see I miss out on a lot when I don't stay up all night. How in the world did Cambodia, WWII, blow jobs, haircuts, and public schools get into a thread about Michael Moore, Governor Huckabee, and SiCKO?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:31 amawww o’hara snapped back so snidely, just because huckabee is 110% right that big fat people like moore add to the healthcare cost in this country.
Michael Moore's weight has nothing to do with the current state of health care in this country. We are the only industrialized nation that thinks that health care is a privilege and not a right.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:35 amre: because Huckabee is 110% right that big fat people like Moore add to the Healthcare cost in this country.
Translation:
Those who are overweight are costing the insurance companies more money; money that they would much rather keep or pay out in fat bonuses to their CEOs.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:45 amHas he ever seen Denny Haestert? The U.S. was the last western nation to outlaw slavery. Why would anyone be surprised that it will also be the last western industrialized nation to provide universal health care? Americans have been manipulated and brainwashed by the likes of Huckabee and the conservatives. It's a travesty and a tragedy.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:45 amNow which Republican is it that likes to wear diapers when he visits his favorite prostitutes?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:48 amNow, Since the trolls and Noise Machine on this thread seem to be coming from liberal haters, corporatists, and war mongers, I have these questions for you. Now please amswer them directly, as I do not want to hear the name Clinton:
1) What have Right Wingers done for the common person in this country?
2) Were George Washington, Ben Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson Liberal or Conservative
3) What would YOU personally do if you got sick, but could not afford healh care?
4) Why do you want corporations running everything?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:49 amWhat does Huckabee think about the fact the most obese populations are found in the Red states?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:49 amWhat does Huckabee think about the fact the most obese populations are found in the Red states?
Thats because red-staters have jobs which means they dont have time to hang out at coffee-houses and go exercise in the middle of the day. Simple really.
Ill explain to you what a job is in a later post.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:26 amWere George Washington, Ben Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson Liberal or Conservative
They werent liberal in todays sense of the word, which even liberals find distasteful enough to change to "progressive".
July 12th, 2007 at 10:28 am#486
Are you saying there is a correlation between hard work and obesity? Did Mr. Huckabee lose all that weight simply by slacking off at the job? I wouldn't be surprised.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:35 amHow well can Huckabee do in the South with his "Blame fat people" campaign platform?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:17 amCLINTON DID IT!!!! *foaming at mouth, spittle flying everywhere, eyes red after staying up all night watching Clinton clips, with massive erection*
(Sorry for the mental image. I couldn't resist)
July 12th, 2007 at 11:21 am#488 I think he's saying those slim people out in California who walk everywhere and have been inventing the computer revolution this past 30 years are lazy. And the fat people in the South who sit on their couches and watch NASCAR drinking beer are the hard working folks.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:29 amTo Blackwater:
We progressives call ourselves that not because we find the term "liberal" distasteful, although we acknowledge that the right wing has worked very hard ever since the Reagan administration to paint that term as negative as "communist" was during the McCarthy era.
No, it's because "progressive" is an accurate term for our ideology -- especially nowadays when action for change is critical. If you check your American Heritage dictionary, you will find:
PROGRESSIVE (adj.)
1. Moving forward; advancing.
2. Proceeding in steps; continuing steadily by increments: progressive change.
3. Promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods.
LIBERAL (adj.)
1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
There is a definite overlap in the definitions, but they aren't exact synonyms. However, most liberals are also progressives, and most progressives are also liberals, so most of us tend to identify with either term.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amThere is a definite overlap in the definitions, but they aren’t exact synonyms. However, most liberals are also progressives, and most progressives are also liberals, so most of us tend to identify with either term.
Comment by missmolly — July 12, 2007 @ 11:44 am
missmolly, I think are correct in this. There has been a brainwashing of the population since the 30s, when Labor unions were considered "Communist". In fact, the Woman's Voting Rights was attacked by corporate interests in the teens. From then on the Limbaughs, Coulters, Bushes, etc, have tried to tie in Liberal or Progressive with everything the misinformed public is supposed to hate....gays, Woman Rights, Vegetarians, Anti-War, Environmentalists, atheists, Labor, Unions, Universal Health care, etc. What it really boil down to is this...These are social movements, and everyday people, that stand in the way of the corporate takeover of our country. Is not that the classic definition of Fascism? Basically they lose money. Not only is War a Racket, but so is hate.
By the way, Washington, Jefferson, and Ben Franklin were Progressives or Liberals, and Andrew Jackson was a Conservative. Conservatives have no problem butchering Native Americans, Stringing up blacks, Supporting Hitler, and invading countries for their tin and oil.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmSwampgas,
As you should know the political designtion is a relative term. Relitive to the environment or context in which it is used. Many of the founding fathers were "liberals" in the sense that they opposed the oppressive government of the Crown.
In todays America it is likely they would be conservative, because they would hope to "conserve" and hold fast to the traditions of "classical liberalism" which they themselves established.
"Progreesive" and "liberal" is a misnomer for todays Democrats because they are advancing the cause of oppressive gov which the founding fathers opposed.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pmMichael Moore's Sicko is brilliant and truthful. Our current health care system systematically rips off the populace while Congress passes a $500-plus billion defense budget to appease the military industrial complex and line their own pockets. Neither our health care system nor our military apparatus work. Any reasonable person would conclude that health care and "defense" primarily exist to provide profits to shareholders, period.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:25 pmCareful, Mr. Huckabee, there are a lot of fat republicans down here in the Bible belt. You wouldn't want to piss them off, would you?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:41 pmSo, corporate greed has nothing to do with it, it's just all caused by fat people? If they put half the energy into solving problems that they do in pointing fingers, the world would be a better place. But, I know, that makes sense, and logic has no place in the GOoPer philosophy.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:18 pmEdwards has about 10% of the money that Romney does and you are not calling him insanely rich. I call that biased.
If Edwards is insanely rich? What do you call the five Waltons who total $95 BILLION. That’s two thousand times Edwards.
Edwards isn't just rich, he has his own tax loophole!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:12 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 11, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
You realize there were some 42 million people w/o health insurance under Clinton, if that's your criteria?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:13 pmLook for the MSM to avoid any mention that the increased taxes would REPLACE rather than ADD to our current health care costs. Would you be willing to pay somewhat higher taxes if you could then stop paying health insurance premiums, deductibles, co-pays, non-covered expenses, etc. and could also stop worrying that your insurance company might drop you or find a loophole to avoid providing coverage (such as your forgetting to mention that you had chickenpox as a child on your application)?
Who is going to pay these taxes? The 40% of America that doesn't owe taxes? The 16% of America that dodges their taxes?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:17 pmI pointed out that the 5 Waltons have two thousand times as much money as Edwards but didn’t get a reply from the trolls.
Romney I guess has about 10 times as much.
But Edwards is “insanely richâ€.
Romney and the Waltons aren't trying to strip the next generation of the opportunity they had to become rich.
Edwards is a twofaced hypocrite!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:18 pmMichael Moore needs to put the KFC down and walk around the block.The fat pig smells.yuck
July 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pm