Bush, Chertoff Seek To Discredit Their Own Intelligence, Claim al Qaeda Is ‘Weaker’
Bush, Chertoff Seek To Discredit Their Own Intelligence, Claim al Qaeda Is ‘Weaker’
Today, the National Intelligence Council of the Bush administration will release a report entitled “Al Qaida Better Positioned to Strike the West,” concluding that the “network is gaining strength and has established a safe haven in remote tribal areas of western Pakistan for training and planning attacks…despite concerted U.S. attempts to smash the network.”
But this morning, both President Bush and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff attempted to play down the intelligence report. “I wouldn’t put it [the threat] at that level — in my own opinion,” said Chertoff. Bush claimed:
There is a perception in the coverage that al Qaeda may be as strong today as they were prior to September 11th. That’s simply not the case…because of the actions we’ve taken, al Qaeda is weaker today than they would have been.
Watch it:
Bush’s attempts to downplay the administration’s own intelligence is nothing new. Intelligence reports warned both before and during the war that invading Iraq would serve as a rallying cry for terrorist and extremist organizations.
Chertoff’s attempts to spin the resurgence of al Qaeda is a quick reversal on his part, as just a few days ago, he reported a “gut feeling” that there would be an al Qaeda strike on the U.S. as soon as this summer.
Some Bush administration officials recently conceded that they overestimated the damage done to al Qaeda since 2001. Unfortunately, the President and his top advisers stubbornly refuse to do the same.
Mimikatz has more.
Transcript:
STEPHANOPOULOS: Are we facing the same level of threat we faced in the summer of 2001?CHERTOFF: I wouldn’t put it at that level — again, this is my own opinion — because I so think we’ve accomplished an awful lot in dismantling their activities overseas and in building our own defenses.
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REPORTER: The intelligence analysts are saying al Qaeda has reconstituted in areas of Pakistan, saying a threat to the West is greater than ever now, greater than 2001. What’s happened?
BUSH: There is a perception in the coverage that al Qaeda may be as strong today as they were prior to September 11th. That’s simply not the case. I think the report will say since 2001, not prior to September 11, 2001. Secondly, that because of the actions we’ve taken, al Qaeda is weaker today than they would have been.
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124 worldwide terrorist attacks in 2001;
204 in 2003;
11,110 in 2005;
Nearly 14,000 in 2006.
Yep, thanks Chimpy, I feel soooo much safer now.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:30 pmsooo… we’re winning but watch out! they still might getcha!
ugh
July 12th, 2007 at 2:30 pmWell obviously any intelligence reports have a liberal bias. They’re based on facts, after all.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:30 pmRemember the good old days when we got the impression that the President knew what the hell was going on, even if it was just because he got the news first?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pmI’ve got a “gut feeling” that report is wrong!
Comment by Michael Shirt-off
July 12th, 2007 at 2:32 pm#1: Has it ever occurred to you that maybe we’re just gotten better at collecting data about attacks? Back in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:32 pmWell, if Bush says it, it must be true…
Lalalalalalalalala
July 12th, 2007 at 2:33 pmI had extra hot chili for lunch and now my gut-feeling is that there’s trouble ahead.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:34 pmPlaying the hype game.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:34 pmWhich way is up, again?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmHas it ever occurred to you that maybe we’re just gotten better at collecting data about attacks? Back in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Certainly not the Bush administration. In 2001 they weren’t even interested in an imminent attack that was going to take place in some godforsaken corner of Manhattan!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmLies, damned lies and Republicans.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmSo, Sec’y Chertoff’s “gut feeling” WAS nothing more than gas or indigestion after all, I suppose. I hope the NEXT time he chooses to base his opinion on his “gut feeling”, he’ll take some Pepto or Maalox before speaking–give it a little time to work, then speak out.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmComment by Egreggious — July 12, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Damn, E — you beat me to it! ;)
Just more of the double-talk from the repukes. Then again, I was expecting either this line of spin, or one other one — “al Qaeda is stronger than ever, which shows that they’re getting desperate and we’re winning, and why we need to keep surging…”
‘course, we’ll probably hear that one soon as well, probably from Snowjob later today…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:36 pmHas it ever occurred to you that maybe we’re just gotten better at collecting data about attacks?
Between 2001 and 2006? Nope. The NSA existed then, and they still existed in 2006. And being 7 times the CIA, they had to notice.
We’re not talking about 100 years change in technology.
Back in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Human beings. I know, you aren’t one - just some self-absorbed gob of goo… Piss off.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:36 pmJeeez, who in the hell is coordinating the release of propaganda these days?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:36 pmThis seems to contradict Chertoff’s gut feeling also.
All we have to do is remember Bush’s response to the August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that Secretary of State Snaggletooth Rice referred to “it was titled ‘Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States’ or something like that.” Knowing that it seems that Bush’s assessment has about as much credibility as, say, Bush himself.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmHas it ever occurred to you that maybe we’re just gotten better at collecting data about attacks? Back in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
An excellent rationalization from the Troll Name Du Jour!
Of course it’s not the case that the numbers are accurate — there must be a reason they don’t show what we want them to show. I got it! People are paying more attention now! That’s it!
So, Troll, you think that they weren’t very good at collecting data in 2003? Two years after 9/11, when we were deeply mired in Iraq? yeah, that must be it.
You forgot that facts have a liberal bias, though. Maybe you should use that excuse.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmHey! Gonzo is going to testify again today! C-SPAN 3, 8pm ET. Fun, fun, fun!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmSo Bush is arguing that AQ is weaker but he still has a gut feel about an attack?
I spose that’s called covering the wingnut-spread.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmP.S. September 11, 2001 not relevant or important to you either, troll?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmPlease spare us these knuckleheads. Chertoff sounds senile, at this point. Two days ago he had a “gut feeling” that we were going to be attacked, but it’s not a threat? And they’re weaker than they used to be? Does anyone in this administration actually listen to what comes out of their mouths?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmDiscredit Their Own Intelligence…
That’s a tall order. First it assumes that they have any intelligence.
Seriously, they have had positions contrary to their intelligence for years. They just fire the people who came up with the data with which they disagree, then everything is harmonious again.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmWhich way is up, again?
Comment by Lupeyg2 — July 12, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
Pay attention. DOWN is up. I’m not going to tell you again.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:38 pm#1: Has it ever occurred to you that maybe we’re just gotten better at collecting data about attacks? Back in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
Comment by No-one in particular
Has it ever occurred to you that they are re-playing what they did in 2001? They have a report right in front of them, and yet they discount it — so they look good politically. They’re not protecting YOU and your FAMILY, they’re protecting Bush’s legacy.
BTW, I think the resident of that “godforsaken corner of South America” were highly interested.
But let’s not quibble — it’s all about YOU!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:38 pm#24: No! Texas left!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:39 pmBush is 100% correct!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:40 pmBack in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
Comment by No-one in particular
Has it ever occurred to you that:
1) Attacks really are up, and
2) Bush is an incompetent dry drunk who needs to be put out to pasture, and FAST?
Two days ago, Chertoff’s “gut” said we were gonna git hit. Now, there’s less of a threat? Geez, if this situation wasn’t so scary, it’d be WAAAAY too easy to laugh at Der Deciderer and his pack of ridiculous flunkies.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:40 pmYes, indeed, Zooey. Motives are rarely, I’d say never, selfless.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:41 pmcourse, we’ll probably hear that one soon as well, probably from Snowjob later today…
Comment by Zippy the Other Pinhead
Snowjob, *lowjob, what’s the difference?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:41 pmNotice the non-denial denial: “…[B]ecause of the actions we’ve taken, al Qaeda is weaker today than they would have been.”
He does not dispute the self-evident FACT that al Qaeda has regained full strength, he instead SPINS the notion that they are weaker than they WOULD have been had we done nothing…I guess…
What an idiot…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:42 pmChertoff ‘gut feeling’ vs. the ‘Decider’s word’ .
July 12th, 2007 at 2:43 pmNo contest…’Decider’ wins.
#1: Has it ever occurred to you that maybe we’ve just gotten better at collecting data about attacks? Back in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
Comment by No-one in particular
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That is true!
Also, there has been a steady increase in terrorist attacks since WWII, so it is no suprise that the trend has continued!
These Leftists just want to blame America for everything…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:43 pmI don’t know about you, but I’d certainly enjoy the latter much more.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:43 pmIt’s actually kind of funny — Bush is caught between two strategies. On the one hand, he needs Al Qaeda to be a strong boogeyman to threaten the “cut-and-run Defeatacrats”. But on the other hand, he pledged several years ago to destroy Al Qaeda. So he looks bad politically if Al Qaeda is strong.
It’s a delicate balancing act and, as anyone who has ever seen the President on a bike can attest, that’s not his strongest attribute. So he’s reduced to contradicting himself depending on the circumstances.
Well… it would be funny if he were, say, a Wal-Mart manager and not the president.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:44 pmMotives are rarely, I’d say never, selfless.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
That depends on whether you see yourself as just YOU, or whether you see yourself as an integral part of a national community.
You only care about your own interests. We care out our collective interests. Not the same.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:44 pm#34: Hmm… looks like TP deleted the post I was replying to.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:44 pm…because of the actions we’ve taken, al Qaeda is weaker today than they would have been. - Bush
And we thank you for that!
God Bless you Mr. Bush.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:45 pmand
God Bless America!!!!!!
The bushies promised to get Osama… they failed…. and then they piled Iraq on top of that failure. Applause for these great failures anyone?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:46 pmIs it just me, or are the trolls not even trying anymore?
I mean, you can hardly blame them — being sent into war armed with cap pistols and outdated maps, but they really don’t seem to even care.
it’s like they get paid no matter what they type, so why bother?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pmThe bushies promised to get Osama…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pmComment by Gerald Gibson — July 12, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
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Irrelavent!!! Off topic!!! NEXT!!!!!
Also, there has been a steady increase in terrorist attacks since WWII, so it is no suprise that the trend has continued!
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — July 12, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Despite the vigorously-prosecuted War on Terror!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pmNow we see the real results of Bushco lying to get us into the Iraq war while forgetting about Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and giving Pakistan a free pass to let Al Qaeda vacation in Pakistan’s back yard.
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
July 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pm- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
#34: Hmm… looks like TP deleted the post I was replying to.
Comment by No-one in particular
July 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pmIt’s a server hitch or software problem. Happens to me and then it reappears moments later if you sign on again.
downplaying intelligence
overplaying inteligence
falsifying intelligence
ignoring intelligence
creating intelligence for Psyops
firing top brass until someone agrees with your brand of intelligence
etc.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 pm#36: Uh. No. Your motives are not selfless. You get a sense of accomplishment and feel like you’ve “done the right thing” when you take care of your collective interests. That’s your internal reward and it’s ok, but it still can’t be called selfless.
Heck. Even mother’s love is not selfless. It’s a positive feedback mechanism hardwired into the human brain.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 pmThe solution: a surge of Arab/Muslamic presence in the U.S., frequent use of Al-Qaeda commands.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 pmHere in lies the difference between the left and right.
while the left generally cares about everyone’s well being and health, regardless of age, race, demographics, religion, …etc., a rightie here provides the perfect NeoCon example of caring:
Back in 2001, who the hell was interested in an attack that took place in some godforsaken corner of South America.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
That’s right, why should we care about innocent children getting blown up, or hatcheted? I mean, afterall, they live in a godforsaken corner of a country that’s not the good ole U.S. of A.!! It’s their own fault they couldn’t afford to come here and watch NASCAR whilst drinkin Busch beer. I say, good riddance, right No-one in particular?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pmIs it just me, or are the trolls not even trying anymore?
Trying implies that there is a goal. What do you think our goal is?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pmNotice that the big news is increased chance of terror attacks. These clowns are so obvious - Bush is in trouble with R senators, with the public, the whole ‘executive privilege’ issue isn’t playing well. So, it’s time to ramp up the fear factor. And since Tom Ridge outed them on the color coding, they’re going with Chertoff’s gut.
And by the way, did you did there is a big circus in town - I hear they’re giving out free bread?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:50 pmWayne-
July 12th, 2007 at 2:50 pmBiush seems to never get concerned about anything. Oh, with the exception of not having air-con in the White House briefing room.
“I wouldn’t put it [the threat] at that level — in my own opinion,†said Chertoff. ——- Notwithstanding my previous ‘gut feeling’, that is. In otherwords: “After speaking with (having my job threatened and submitting to repeated beatings) the President convincingly (beat into me) explained that my ‘gut feeling’ was, in fact a reaction to rancid meat. I’m fine now (back in lockstep) really! (Smiles as he notices Bush’s thumb relaxing on the button that delivers the electric shocks)
Bush claimed: (parentheses mine)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:50 pmThere is a perception in the coverage that al Qaeda may be as strong today as they were prior to September 11th. That’s simply not the case —- ( I didn’t hear that from Cheney, and he IS my Intelligence community) —…because of the actions we’ve taken, al Qaeda is weaker today than they would have been — (If we had done nothing at all). (Back to pre-9/11 strength? phooey! Where? I don’t see no Al-Quaeda…do you? Well then, I guess that settles it!)
Hmm, is the Bush crime family working for al-Queda or are the al-queda working for the Bush crime family? Or is what they call, in the corporate world, a “strategic partnership?” You decide.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:51 pmDespite the vigorously-prosecuted War on Terror!
Comment by Egreggious — July 12, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
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Yup.
That’s right.
Let me guess…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:51 pmYOU WANT TO SURRENDER TO THE TERRORISTS, DON’T YOU!!!!!!!!?!?
DRxJ - poor people don’t have to live in a foreign country - look at NOLA.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:51 pmWhat do you think our goal is?
Comment by No-one in particular
Point well made - you HAVE no point!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:51 pm#34: Hmm… looks like TP deleted the post I was replying to.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
So it appears then that you where responding to no one in particular! How ironic.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pmTrying implies that there is a goal. What do you think our goal is?
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
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That’s the problem…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pm…these Lefties don’t think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Irrelavent!!! Off topic!!! NEXT!!!!!
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. You’re busted!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:53 pmHmm, is the Bush crime family working for al-Queda or are the al-queda working for the Bush crime family? Or is what they call, in the corporate world, a “strategic partnership?†You decide.
Comment by james k. sayre — July 12, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
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I decide, that you sir, are an idiot!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:53 pmComment by DRxJ — July 12, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
They should be able to afford to stay there, not bother us for “entitlements.”
July 12th, 2007 at 2:54 pmWell, they were weaker before they became stronger — or is that, they were stronger before they became weaker? The neocons are depending on our short attention spans now, and this will get spun in whatever direction the propaganda requires.
Of course, we don’t know where the recently stolen $282 million dollars is going to wind up. If it’s Al Qaeda, we might be wise to go back to the “gut” feeling.
Scary scenario: Bush and Cheney need a terrorist attack again in the US, since 9/11 is losing traction and they’re having a hard time holding their forces together. How absurd is it that we leave just enough doors open to allow this to happen? Starting, of course, with a bank vault door…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmHi Pr. Pee or should we say Mr. King.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmImitation is the sincerest form of flattery. You’re busted!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 12, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Intellectually dishonest and another straw man!!! NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmYOU WANT TO SURRENDER TO THE TERRORISTS, DON’T YOU!!!!!!!!?!?
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — July 12, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
I would like to fight so-called “War on Terror” in a manner that actually reduced the number of terrorists and terrorist attacks.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pm#56: Now you get it.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmI think we should treat Bush’s Iraq War report cards and the funding to continue the war like his “No Child Left Behind” policy with the public school system in this country. Tie the funding to the report card. Maybe that would compel him to try something that actually has a chance of working..
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmSeriously, who actually belives this LIAR commander in theif?
Really, do people actually beleive him?
Or are the shriking 26% who believe him the fantasyland idiots who only care about a war bringing them riches $$$ in Iraq?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pm…because of the actions we’ve taken, al Qaeda is weaker today than they would have been. - Bush
And we thank you for that!
God Bless you Mr. Bush.
and
God Bless America!!!!!!
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — July 12, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Come on, Mr. Pee. You’re tarnishing the impressive legacy of trolldom you’ve built up over these months. It’s very sad. It’s like watching Steve Carlton getting shelled wearing a Giants uniform.
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July 12th, 2007 at 2:56 pmHi Pr. Pee or should we say Mr. King.
Comment by leftcoast — July 12, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
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How many “leftcoast”s are you?
July 12th, 2007 at 2:56 pmIntellectually dishonest and another straw man!!! NEXT!!!
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boy, you really like my material, huh? Feel free to use it. It’s obvious where you’re gittin’ it.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:57 pmRush Limbaugh style school yard proding… you guys really shouldnt respond to them. They are idiots and are only here to get kicks out of getting people worked up just like any child minded person does…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:58 pmI would like to fight so-called “War on Terror†in a manner that actually reduced the number of terrorists and terrorist attacks.
Comment by Egreggious — July 12, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
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Well, Good News For You!!!
Due to our noble President and military, alkaida is weaker than it would have been!
Thank You Mr. Bush!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:58 pmLet’s draw a parallel here. Replace “war on terror (or Al Quaeda)” with “war on poverty”.
When Repubs point out that trillions of $ have been spent on fighting poverty and it still exists so why keep spending — Dems counter with “yes, poverty still exists so that’s why we have to keep fighting! We’ve made progress but it still needs to be eradicated.”
I can agree with the Dems logic on fighting poverty (if not their methods).
Why can’t you all understand that we’ve made some progress against Al Quaeda but they remain a threat? That’s all Bush is saying.
This post seems like unserious sniping to me.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:58 pmIt’s like watching Steve Carlton getting shelled wearing a Giants uniform.
Comment by spit take
Or Carlton Fisk trying to steal 2nd in anybody’s uniform…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:58 pmBTW, 9/11 is the best thing that ever happened to George Bush and his supporters. You can bet that they are now longing for a fresh attack to re-establish that knee-jerk fascist impulse in the American public and glorious return of Bush the Hero.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:59 pm#69: The Troll Consortium agrees with you. By a vote of 32-8 we have decided to censor The KING for low quality trolling and hope to see the return of Mr. President.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:59 pmCT lives in a black and white fear mongering world. Can’t quite grasp that he’s been fed a pile of republodung. There is a cure and it’s coming soon.
Just because Bush said something does not make it so. There are books written on the dumbshit that has spewed forth from shrubs gullet so if anyone takes solace in his words is still in the cave marveling and the shadows.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:59 pmMy new strategy is to focus pure, unadulterated truth into my comments……
Comment by PiP —— July 11, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
Here’s some borrowed material I enjoyed.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmand glorious return of Bush the Hero.
Comment by Del Capslock
Look… in the sky… it’s a bird… it’s a plane…
No, it’s Captain Codpiece!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmDo these two clowns really think that anyone is listening to them any longer? Their attempts to spin reality is pathetic. They have zero credibility with the public. Don’t they realize that every time they contradict something that research has proven to be true, all they do is make fools of themselves. Don’t they think……..Well, I guess that’s the problem. They have lost the ability to think rationally.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmRe: Bush comments. Another Adventure in Truthiness.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmMr. Pee and The King- we are just taking advantage of the ruling the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. We and the government can now find the IP addresses you go to and observe what you write.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmDRxJ - poor people don’t have to live in a foreign country - look at NOLA.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmComment by Powkat — July 12, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
Good point! We should change No one in particular’s post to state:
Back in 2005, who the hell was interested in a category 4 hurricane that took place in some godforsaken corner of Louisana? Not our government, that’s for sure!
it’s like they get paid no matter what they type, so why bother?
Comment by spit take — July 12, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Ah yes, quantity over quality. Yet another conservative family value…
July 12th, 2007 at 3:02 pmCome on, Mr. Pee. You’re tarnishing the impressive legacy of trolldom you’ve built up over these months. It’s very sad. It’s like watching Steve Carlton getting shelled wearing a Giants uniform.
Comment by spit take
Why encourage the useless little monkey? His mommy has been telling him to get a job but he’s “too busy” to leave the basement.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 pmRe: Bush comments. Confirmed by rigorous Stupelligence.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 pmTaking the art of spin into it’s own Seventh Dimension.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 pmOne of bluster, buffoonery, bullshit and besottedness.
Not even trying to pick the cherries, just telling us they’re apricots.
Katie, I don’t think they believe themselves. They are enjoying the role of inciters, even if it’s in their own minds.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 pmDue to our noble President and military, alkaida is weaker than it would have been!
Thank You Mr. Bush!
Comment by THE KING! — July 12, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Well good for alkaida, whoever they are. Al-Qa’ida, on the other hand, is at or near 2001-strength. Also thanks to Mr. Bush.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:03 pmWait till the White House Phone #s show up on the Madam’s logs.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThey’ll be saying, Phone? what’s a phone? We only use the telegraph here.
You can bet that they are now longing for a fresh attack to re-establish that knee-jerk fascist impulse in the American public and glorious return of Bush the Hero. Comment by Del Capslock — July 12, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Del — they’re “longing” for a fresh attack??? I’d say they’re PLANNING for a fresh attack — and THAT’s the gut feeling that Shirt-off was having the other day. It’s the Fear Factor approach to government after all; has been since 2001…
July 12th, 2007 at 3:05 pmDo these two clowns really think that anyone is listening to them any longer?
Comment by Katie — July 12, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Are you talking about Bush and Chertoff? Or our residents trolls?
I guess there’s not much of a difference in the sense they make…
But I’ve actually grown to appreciate the visual style of Mr. Pee’s new trolling methods. All those exclamation points make a convenient flag that alert me to which posts are safe to avoid due to inevitable nonsense.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:06 pmElvis has left the building, his mind, the planet…
July 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWait till the White House Phone #s show up on the Madam’s logs.
They’ll be saying, Phone? what’s a phone? We only use the telegraph here.
Comment by RUCerious — July 12, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
“The recent growth in our calls to Madams is less than it would have been if we hadn’t gone to Iraq.”
July 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmUh. No. Your motives are not selfless.
I didn’t say they were. I just said that to us, self is collective - where we want the same for all people, not just our own individual arses like you do.
To us, if other people are cared for, it benefits them AND us. Win-win. To you - the hell with them regardless…
Get it yet?
You get a sense of accomplishment and feel like you’ve “done the right thing†when you take care of your collective interests. That’s your internal reward and it’s ok, but it still can’t be called selfless.
Again, not what I claimed… You cons just love humping you some strawmen, huh?
Actually, it’s more than accomplishment - it’s about treating other people like a part of yourself…
Heck. Even mother’s love is not selfless. It’s a positive feedback mechanism hardwired into the human brain.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
No, it’s a survival of the fittest evolutionary trait wired into the brain stems of all animals.
Look out if the majority of plants develop them…
July 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmHeck. Even mother’s love is not selfless. It’s a positive feedback mechanism hardwired into the human brain.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 12, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Altruism is a rare thing, but you are obviously not a mother.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:08 pmLet’s draw a parallel here. Replace “war on terror (or Al Quaeda)†with “war on povertyâ€.
When Repubs point out that trillions of $ have been spent on fighting poverty and it still exists so why keep spending — Dems counter with “yes, poverty still exists so that’s why we have to keep fighting! We’ve made progress but it still needs to be eradicated.â€
I can agree with the Dems logic on fighting poverty (if not their methods).
Why can’t you all understand that we’ve made some progress against Al Quaeda but they remain a threat? That’s all Bush is saying.
This post seems like unserious sniping to me.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — July 12, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Not that pointing this out will help because you’re not here to debate, but to muddy the waters, however following the “war on poverty”, poverty in this country was cut in half and it didn’t take the life of a single person. Under Bush’s war on terra, terrorism is 68 times more prevalent and thousands of lives have been lost due to incompetent central management.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“The recent growth in our calls to Madams is less than it would have been if we hadn’t gone to Iraq.â€
Comment by Egreggious
July 12th, 2007 at 3:09 pmROFLMAO!!!~~
You know, CT, this is TP. You don’t have to put your fascist codespeak in “quotes” for us to get it.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:09 pmComment by SGT Higgins — July 12, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Careful Sarge, that’s the C in C. :-D
July 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pm“Al qaeda is weaker today because of the calls we have made to the Madam”
July 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWho can you trust these days after all??
http://www.americanlegends.blogspot.com
July 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pmDo these two clowns really think that anyone is listening to them any longer? Their attempts to spin reality is pathetic. They have zero credibility with the public. Don’t they realize that every time they contradict something that research has proven to be true, all they do is make fools of themselves. Don’t they think……..Well, I guess that’s the problem. They have lost the ability to think rationally.
Comment by Katie — July 12, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
They get just enough response to be motivated to continue the behavior.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pmI mean am I right or am I wrong??
American Legends
July 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pm#105 and 107 flag for spam
July 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmJust imagine. Churchill and FDR have been fighting the Axis of Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini and, instead of driving the Axis to unconditional surrender, they’ve become stronger and more threatening.
Republican talking points never mention yellowbelly Bush’s bunk from the hills of Tora Bora. The GOP cut & ran that time. How many remember that Rumsfeld wouldn’t wait for the troops and equipment to come from Turkey to Kuwait before invading. And who recalls the catastrophic cockups of Bremer?
This War on Terror has been run like Enron. These yellowbelly goons keep saying it’s find, it’s great, invest more money, send more troops, it’s working. But, like Enron, it’ll all collapse in a catastrophic mess.
It may happend in one of two ways. The most likely is that the White House tries to dismiss the current Iraqi government and the chaos that follows will send casualties through the clouds. A worst case scenario would be America attacking Iran. The Iranian exocet missiles would sink the US Navy in the Gulf, Iranian troops would stream across the border into Iraq and Afghanistan, the alSadr militia would revolt pinning the US troops between a rock and a hard place. End of the US military occupation.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:14 pmI say, good riddance, right No-one in particular?
Comment by DRxJ — July 12, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
“For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” - Newton’s Third Law of Motion
The opposite reaction to being selfish is getting left alone… No wonder they are all so lonely all the time, their self-absorption has given them the exact opposite of what they gave others. And the morons never learn…
You want security, respect, love? You then must GIVE those things, trolls. Occasionally, some one won’t reciprocate - but you can’t live your lives being selfish because of a rare bad apple. Sheesh…
July 12th, 2007 at 3:14 pmHey American Legends guy,
Keep an eye on Bush and Gen. David Petraeus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at what Sage William Kristol says about them:
July 12th, 2007 at 3:14 pm“I think Gen. David Petraeus could go down in American history with an amazing performance. … This could be a Ulysses S. Grant situation where Bush finally found the right general.â€
“We know that dictators are quick to choose aggression, while free nations strive to resolve differences in peace. We know that oppressive governments support terror, while free governments fight the terrorists in their midst. We know that free peoples embrace progress and life, instead of becoming the recruits for murderous ideologies.”
More bullsh@t from our Dear Leader Herr Bush
July 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pmSpeech to UN General Assembly, September 21, 2004
Who could have known that this war would turn out emboldening The Enemy and having no positive effect whatsoever?
July 12th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWeren’t we supposed to go to the ends of the earth to bring those responsible for 9/11 to justice? Tough talk but then he flip flopped and won’t pressure Pakistan for the one responsible. He won’t commit troops to the capture of OBL but throw them into Iraq to avenge daddy. And we are expected to go along.
If GW had followed thru with his word and stayed on the trail of OBL instead of Iraq we would have OBL”s head on a stick and wouldn’t have needed to invade Iraq because we were already squeezing that nut.
jump monkeys jump. All who think that Bush’s path is right. jump monkey.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:19 pmMore bullsh@t from our Dear Leader Herr Bush
Speech to UN General Assembly, September 21, 2004
Comment by A Patriot Acting
The king must have been looking in a mirror that day…..
July 12th, 2007 at 3:21 pmBut I’ve actually grown to appreciate the visual style of Mr. Pee’s new trolling methods. All those exclamation points make a convenient flag that alert me to which posts are safe to avoid due to inevitable nonsense.
Comment by spit take — July 12, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
LOL… Agreed. I haven’t read a single incoherent thing he’s said today. It’s refreshing.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:21 pmHey! Freedom isn’t just for Methodists, you know!
“As you’ve heard me say before, I believe — strongly believe — that freedom is a universal value; that freedom isn’t just for Americans, or Methodists, that freedom is universal in its application.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:22 pm” - GWB, 7/12/07 Press Conference.
If GW had followed thru with his word and stayed on the trail of OBL instead of Iraq we would have OBLâ€s head on a stick and wouldn’t have needed to invade Iraq because we were already squeezing that nut.
Comment by hellinabucket
If the Chimp had captured OBL and put him on trial, he would have been the greatest hero ever. Sheeple would only remember that one thing, nothing else. They would revere him more than Reagan.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:23 pmCareful Sarge, that’s the C in C. :-D
Comment by Zooey
LOL I’m thinkin’ he doesn’t spend much time here…besides, he’s gotta catch me first.
And if I’ve learned anything recently, it’s that he’s severely out of touch with any reality other than his own. Besides, I’m not disobeying a direct order or anything. They want me, they know where to find me.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:23 pmMr Pee, you go through more aliases than the Canal Street Madam. Are you related to the loyal servant of the administration?
Comparing Bush’s bootlick generals to U.S. Grant is hilarious. Lincoln wanted to be told the truth by his generals and he expected results. Bush wants yesmen. Lincoln provided what the generals said they needed for success. Bush is a cheapskate where the troops are concerned. Bush is nickle & diming this occupation into the biggest defeat in US history.
Sorry, Mr Pee, but you are as ignorant of Civil War history as you are Byzantine history. Remember when you ran crying from the room when I corrected you on the history of Islam’s rise? Well, you know less about US history than you do about late Roman history. Get they to a library, ValianttheHater!
July 12th, 2007 at 3:26 pmThanks for calling them on this. I was listening today and like, WTF? This is the worst example of trying to have it both ways I have ever seen.
In contrast, Fox Noise Channel, after Mr. Bush’s presser, is going full-bore with all terrorism, all the time, we’re all gonna die. They, of course, aren’t mentioning Bush and Chertoff contradicting them either.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:27 pmHere we go. They are setting the stage for Iran.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:29 pmhttp://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/ blog/ electioncentral/ 2007/ jul/ 12/ bush_to_veto_any_iraq_or_iran_amendments_in_defense_bill
Just you guys wait, remember what the Great Sage William Kristol said:
July 12th, 2007 at 3:30 pm“I think Gen. David Petraeus could go down in American history with an amazing performance. … This could be a Ulysses S. Grant situation where Bush finally found the right general.â€
The Night We Drove Those Muslims Down!!!
And all the bells were ringin’
The Night We Drove Those Muslims Down!!!
And all the people were singin’
Well, I’m not surprised that Bush is discrediting his own intelligence, we’ve been doing it for years. LOL.
Seriously, discrediting the profession intelligence is what got America into this war. Although, properly speaking, what Bush did in 2002 was degrade the intelligence.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:31 pmBush at his next press conference:
“Well, the stronger it gets…the…uh weaker it gets because…uh…the insurgents are getting overconfident by the success of their “last throes” or something…and uh…we’re staying the new way forward course…because it’s hard. Real hard!”
July 12th, 2007 at 3:32 pmComment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
I agree Zooey. Now GW will go down in history as the great undecider. Couldn’t decide if OBL and Al Qiada was important or not. Couldn’t figure out if we needed to be in Afghanistan or not. and the list goes on.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:33 pmI heard this news on the radio this morning, on my way to work.
Of course, even though the report is titled “Al Qaeda better positioned to strike the West”, Rice & company will find a way to claim they didn’t know what AlQaeda was planning.
Not to mention the assessment directly contradicts Pres Bush’s claim that AlQaeda is weaker, and puts Pakistan (that stalwart ally on the phony “War on Terror”) in the spot light once again, as a safe heaven for the organisation the Bush administration claims to be hunting in Iraq.
Pres Bush is giving more Kool-Aid to his faithful followers, and they cannot get enough of it.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:38 pmComment by hellinabucket — July 12, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Maybe GW only knows fuzzy logic,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic
July 12th, 2007 at 3:39 pmwhat the hell is with Bush’s pathological need to rebel against the grain? his defining character trait seems to be tremendous obstinance in the face of overwhelming evidence that contradicts his vision.
early in the war, he fought a large military operation. when things might still have been salvageable, he fought using a larger one. when James Baker and thre Iraq Commission had something to say he ignored it. now when it makes sense to refocus our priorities, Bush is still hanging on to a delusion that is costing over 100 American lives a month.
whatever the cost to the nation’s psyche of impeaching him & Cheney, I have come to believe it is worth it.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:41 pmThe stongest Al Queda has ever been George W Bush was president. They are still around and so is GW. In about a year and a half (at the most) W will be out of office (Thank God). Will Al Queda still be around?
July 12th, 2007 at 3:41 pmSupport our troops?
http://news.independent.co.uk/ world/ americas/ article2758829.ece
July 12th, 2007 at 3:42 pmDo you have to be incoherent to be a Republican president or is it just that Republicans don’t care whether the things their Decider says make sense or not?
July 12th, 2007 at 3:42 pmLOL I’m thinkin’ he doesn’t spend much time here…besides, he’s gotta catch me first.
And if I’ve learned anything recently, it’s that he’s severely out of touch with any reality other than his own. Besides, I’m not disobeying a direct order or anything. They want me, they know where to find me.
Comment by SGT Higgins
Works for me!! Trash the Chimp!
July 12th, 2007 at 3:43 pm‘weaker than they would have been’ - nice metric W.
Believe his speculation from the Either rather than US intelligence…
July 12th, 2007 at 3:43 pmWill Al Queda still be around?
Comment by Bob — July 12, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Depends on who succeeds him… Right now, from the cast of corporate owned politicians in the lead? Probably… They will need boogeymen to feed their Capitalistic masters as well.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:44 pmI would bet that all of the progress we’ve made against al-Qualude has been developed using law enforcement tactics, like the ones Sen. Kerry suggested and was subsequently ridiculed for. I would also bet that all the gains Al-Qualude has made have been because of our invasion of Iraq. Hmmmm…..
July 12th, 2007 at 3:47 pmWorks for me!! Trash the Chimp!
Comment by Zooey
I’d feel a little better if he didn’t make it so easy….or if he wasn’t doing such an excellent job of doing it himself!
July 12th, 2007 at 3:52 pmJohn at 128, I highly recommend Glenn Greenwald’s new book, A Tragic legacy. Basically Bush has adopted a Manichean mindset and once he believes he’s on the right path all the facts will not deter him from a course change. It’s brilliant , well written and very hard to put down. Check it out.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:52 pm“weaker today than they would have been”
couldn’t the same soundbyte be applied to the US Military in the War on Terror had they not been diverted to poorly executed war of choice in Iraq?
What a Jackass. Is everything a game of lowered expectations to this guy? How the hell did he come to be our Commander in Chief. Really upsetting.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:54 pm#137, thanks for the book refreence. I’ll check it out.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:55 pmLet’s get IMPEACHMENT done.
Cheney has stated he’s not part of the executive branch, implying he’s somewhere between Article 1 and Article 2 of our federal government, making him outside our federal government.
Gonzales’ Justice Department on July 10 ruled that Bush’s executive branch is also outside of our federal government, in an argument that corrupt Bush administration officials don’t have to answer any “damn subpoenaes” issued by Article 1 legislative branch committees.
The Bush administration got some Republican puppets in Congress to insert language into bills when they were running Congress, telling our courts to take a hike, that they can’t hear any case that the Bush administration says they can’t hear.
In other words, Bush administration officials have made it clear that they no longer consider themselves to be part of our federal government as established primarily in Article 1 and Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution.
Since the Bush administration is no longer part of our federal government, then patriotic American citizens should honor their wish, and make them not part of our federal government any longer.
Impeach. Impeach. Impeach.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:56 pm#114, hellinabucket - Great points. I’m another American who’d love to see OBL’s head posted on top of the Brooklyn Bridge. Also remember, this is the administration that didn’t get worried while reading a report titled Al-Queda Seeking To Strike In The United States. One would think that this would have given them Some idea. Well, I’d guess that the Administration can always argue that they’re all inept bufoons, therefore you can’t count on the Intelligence reports. Mr. Bush could argue that he’s appointed cluless unqualified clods, so they’ve Got to be wrong. The scary part is that I could see that happening. The 26%ers would Still buy into it!
July 12th, 2007 at 3:56 pmThe Night We Drove Those Muslims Down!!!
And all the bells were ringin’
The Night We Drove Those Muslims Down!!!
And all the people were singin’
Comment by THE KING!!! — July 12, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
I’m surprised you hate Muslims so much, frankly. It seems like radical salafist Islam would be right up your alley. Just last month, a prominent Saudi cleric issued a controversial fatwa on liberals. Have you thought about converting? There’s no word for “libtards” in Arabic, but I’m sure you could manage…
July 12th, 2007 at 3:59 pmSo, the intelligence is what the intelligence isn’t?
Man, this is what happens when you let creationists out of the trailer park.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:03 pm.
whatever the cost to the nation’s psyche of impeaching him & Cheney, I have come to believe it is worth it.
Comment by John — July 12, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
It would improve MY psyche.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:05 pmBush says,
“Of course I read all the intelligence reports… I just don’t believe them.”
Wish we knew this before we went into the war.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:12 pmThey are “weaker today than they would have beenâ€
He could be talking about the US military.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:13 pmI want President Bush to impregnate me!
July 12th, 2007 at 4:16 pmIt’s like waking up in the back seat and realizing the guy who had the most shots is driving. You look out the back window and read highway signs as they grow smaller.
Do you try to stop the driver or just hope you don’t hit anything (else)?
July 12th, 2007 at 4:22 pmnice analogy … unfortunately a lot of people have already lost their lives, it ain’t over yet, and I don’t see it ending well.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:23 pmBob, I’m not driving, Dick is. I’m way too hammered to take the wheel.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:25 pmIf we impeached and that would cause a weakened phyche, maybe we should hang him while he’s still president. have the presidential seal on the bucket his intestines spill into.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:27 pm#151 way out of line and also illegal for you to say that.
don’t be a dumb-ass.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:30 pm#151 I agree, but you should be addressing #150??
July 12th, 2007 at 4:31 pmThis administration is doing what it always does. Left hand, I would like you to meet right hand.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:36 pmThe Bush/Bin Laden strategy is working to perfection.
Osama gets to be free, and Bush gets to scare us about him being free.
Osama, Bush doesn’t really give you much thought. He’s not that concerned about you. Your name only comes up when Karl puts you in his talking points.
When the going gets tough, I can always call on good old Osama to take the heat off.
Al-qaeda is stronger than ever.
Al-qaeda is on the run.
It would be funny if so many of our family weren’t dying. But they are. Until Iraq signs over that oil, look for things to remain the same.
I had a Zen thought, a moment of Zen, if you will.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:37 pmIf a troll posts here, and no one reads it, does the post exist?
for that matter, does the troll exist?
July 12th, 2007 at 4:40 pmWhat troll?
July 12th, 2007 at 4:41 pmThey are stonger, weaker, on the run, around the corner, over there, over here, under your children’s beds, only a small portion we’re fighting in Iraq, the main fraction we’re fighting in Iraq.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:41 pmkaye2, putting it that way sounds just like winnie the pooh talking about hefalumps and woozels.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:46 pmI’m listening to Scott Ritter on Randy Rhodes show. Scott Ritter had it 100% right, and opposed the Iraq invasion from the start. He knew Saddam had no weapons program because it was HIS JOB. He personally took part in the destruction of Saddam’s program. He is making the point that citizens need to be involved. I am mad enough to do so. I went and spoke with the District Aide for my congressman.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:51 pmI had been writing to him about the issues, and would not have even known she was in my town if I hadn’t gotten his email telling me. It’s a small town, and only 3 people, including myself, showed up in the 45 minutes I was there. They should communicate better when they have these…I’m sure more people would have come.
But if more people, people like us that can write an intelligent letter, wrote to our representatives, and told them our views, change may come about a little faster.
I do not merely want to score points on some political blog, I want our government to change direction. I come here to round out my point of view by sharing with others. I pretty much ignore the trolls, it’s not hard, I want to see a sincere argument from either side.
Of you want to change someone’s point of view, you will not do that through name calling, mockery and foul language. You just convince everyone of your utter lack of anything intelligible to say!
Comment by funky p — July 12, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Thanks for that. I wholeheartedly agree :-)
July 12th, 2007 at 5:00 pmOn Saturday, Americans learned that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in 2005 cancelled a major U.S. raid into Pakistan designed to decapitate much of Al Qaeda’s senior leadership. Now, a new CIA assessment details the steep price the U.S. is paying for President Bush’s failure to enforce his mantra of “no safe havens.” U.S. intelligence analysts, the AP reports, have concluded Al Qaeda has “rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since just before the 2001 terrorist attacks.”
For the disturbing details, see:
July 12th, 2007 at 5:08 pm“CIA: Resurgent Al Qaeda Now at Pre-9/11 Capability.”
#130 Alejandro thank you for the link. Anyone who has not read this yet, needs to. This alone should be reason enough to get our troops out of Iraq. How much longer can they survive under the stress?
July 12th, 2007 at 5:22 pmI have a gut feeling that BushCo are that the REPUKE HACKS in power have proven themselves to worthy only of providing comedic relief. They are the biggest and most utter joke of an organization than the clown antagonists in movies, such as Dr.Evils cabal. Of course, since these clowns are actually ruining people’s lives they should have been imprisoned long long ago.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmEdited.
I have a gut feeling that BushCo and the REPUKE HACKS in power have proven themselves worthy only of providing comedic relief. They are the biggest and most utter joke of an organization than anything in my wildest imagination. Bigger than the clown antagonists in movies, such as Dr.Evil’s cabal. Of course, since these clowns are actually ruining people’s lives, they should have been imprisoned