Bush Dismisses Iraq Critics: ‘War Fatigue’ Is Affecting Their ‘Psychology’
Bush Dismisses Iraq Critics: ‘War Fatigue’ Is Affecting Their ‘Psychology’
Today in his press conference, a reporter asked President Bush why he is “so resistant” to a “change of course in Iraq,” even though that’s what the American public is “clamoring for.” Bush dismissed the reporter’s question, stating that he isn’t surprised “that there is deep concern amongst our people,” but ascribed it to “war fatigue.” “It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that.” Watch it:
“War fatigue” is not the problem in Iraq. On every metric, the administration’s efforts in Iraq are failing. More than 3,600 Americans have been killed in Iraq, and Bush’s escalation still has not had any significant effect on reducing the violence. Additionally, al Qaeda has “rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since the summer of 2001.”
In January, Bush claimed that Americans “sacrifice peace of mind when they see the terrible image of violence on TV every night,” adding that “the psychology of the country…is somewhat down because of this war.” First Lady Laura Bush has also argued that “no one suffers more than their President and I do.”
Americans don’t need psychological counseling from President Bush; they need an end to the war in Iraq.
Transcript:
Q: Mr. President, in addition to members of your own party, the American public is clamoring for a change of course in Iraq.
Why are you so resistant to that idea, and how much longer are you willing to give the surge to work before considering a change in this policy?
BUSH: First of all, I understand why the American people are — you know, they’re tired of the war. People are — there’s war fatigue in America. It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that. This is an ugly war. It’s a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective. It doesn’t surprise me that there is deep concern amongst our people.
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Or at least gross incompetence and bullshit fatigue.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:43 amSorry, it’s DEATH fatigue we have, and you’re the grim reaper W.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amThat’s it, Dumbya!
Keep insulting the majority of Americans who oppose your war! That’s a great political stratergy and I bet you thought it up all by yourself, didn’t you?!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amAnd he said he wouldn’t speculate about whether he’ll base his opinion on Petraeus’s assessment in the future.
He also danced around the fact that Al Kayduh is stronger than ever.
Yep it’s all our fault.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amChimpy: The country is actually fatigued by your mismanagement of the war, sacrifice of our sons and daughters, profiteering, cronyism, failure to set measurable goals, and CONSTANT LYING.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 am“Americans don’t need psychological counseling; they need an end to the war in Iraq.”
And for Congress to put impeachment for these sociopathic fascists back on the table.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amIt’s too bad Bush doesn’t really suffer like he says he does.
Here’s hoping for a long life for Mr. Bush. Maybe wheelchair bound, open sores oozing pus on the sheets, a colostomy bag, and two or three fewer limbs than he now has.
That’s what this evil f*ck has brought upon tens of thousands of our finest, and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Good for the goose should be good for that bastard.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amAmericans don’t need psychological counseling, Bush needs psychological counseling! He also needs a GOOD psychological assessment and evaluation of his state of mental health and integrity..
July 12th, 2007 at 11:47 amBush is the one who needs a psychologist. Unfortunately, we will soon be dealing with thousands of US soldiers who need psychologists (and more) due to PTSD.
http://news.independent.co.uk/ world/ americas/ article2758829.ece
July 12th, 2007 at 11:48 amAnd just imagine how fatigued his buddies would be if he actually raised taxes on his rich buddies to help pay for this war. OMG, you’d hear the siren call for withdrawal then. But this clown cuts taxes, then BORROWS the money to pay for this war from Saudi Arabia, China, Japan, etc. These people are NOT conservatives. They are traitors to this country and are not only destroying the military, but the constitution, as well as bankrupting America.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:48 amThat’s right George. We’re TIRED!!
Tired of YOUR Bloodthirsty warmongering.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:48 amBush dismissed the reporter’s question, stating that he isn’t surprised “that there is deep concern amongst our people,†but ascribed it to “war fatigue.†“It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that.â€
Troops & families! Heh heh…
SMACK!!!
With contempt,
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amYour King
Bush acknowledges that the American public is tired of this war, and that the whole bloody mess is having a detrimental impact on us emotionally and psychologically, and yet he’s decided to prolong our agony indefinitely simply to validate what’s left of his failed ideology.
If that isn’t a classic example of abuse, I don’t know what is.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amThat’s right George. Everyone else is just losing it, and you’re sane and on the right path.
Sounds pretty psychotic to me…or is that a trait of a sociopath?
Brute force doesn’t work - it never gives the results the politicians promise us. And it definitely hasn’t given good results in this war either.
I hope that people will continue to realize this before the next war starts - it never works no matter what they tell us. We Definitely need a new direction - one where war isn’t a tool to be used by these tyrants..
Some reading:
“Leaders Don’t Kill People…”
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amhttp://www.populistamerica.com/leaders_dont_kill_people
Bush is the one who needs a psychologist. Unfortunately, we will soon be dealing with thousands of US soldiers who need psychologists (and more) due to PTSD.
http://news.independent.co.uk/ world/ americas/ article2758829.ece
Comment by lw — July 12, 2007 @ 11:48 am
They have plenty of faith-based counselors at Walter Reed - that’s not good enough?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amBUSH: First of all, I understand why the American people are — you know, they’re tired of the war. People are — there’s war fatigue in America. It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that.
You understand that??? From what? Your numerous tours in Vietnam?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amOr from all your failed businesses?
You can’t even speak in coherent sentences, and you expect us to believe you understand war psychology?
F’ing moron!
I bet you couldn’t even spell psychology without the use of a teleprompter!
I liked how he completely dodged the question of who in his administration revealed Valerie Plame’s name. Weasels.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amKeep talking, Dumbya! You’ll be in the teens by fall.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amI enjoyed watching reporters asking tough questions again. While Bush says he doesn’t govern according to opinion polls, the press now realizes that he’s damaged politically (according to the polls), and aren’t being so deferential to him. The telling response from Bush is repeating his trademark “But it’s hard work…” It shows reporters in graphic form that Bush is taking refuge in the past, to insulate himself from today’s realities.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:52 amIn Bush’s world, someone else is always to blame. His fallback position for everything is some variation on the phrase “what you people have got to understand is …. blah, blah, blah.” There is never a problem with Bush’s policies or action, and any opinion to the contrary solely arises due to the failure of others to understand whatever it is the Bush thinks he understands about the situation.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:54 amWho is that reporter asking the question? I’ve seen her asking some good, agressive questions lately.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:54 amI wonder which of the big pharma companies are licking their lips at the prospect of thousands of Americans who will require drugs to deal with their PTSD and other ailments…
Oh yea…
All of them!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amI also liked the part where he invited journalists to visit him after he’s left office. Perhaps, if they are writing an article about the worst president in american history…
July 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amHold on a moment here. Who’s out of touch, Mr. Emperor?
It’s not about psychology. It’s about the reality you, King George, have created.
This is an occupation in which the military under your leadership, Dear Commander CodPiece, will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective. It doesn’t surprise me that there is a sincere lack of deep concern or understanding of reality in you or amongst your administration.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amITMFA NOW!!!
IGNORE THE LIBETROLLS
REALITY, GOOD - LIBETROLLS, BAD
July 12th, 2007 at 11:56 amThe man is a sociopath with no concept of how anyone else feels or thinks. He has no ability at all to put himself in “the other person’s shoes” and no desire to even attempt it.
Pelosi, when the f*ck are you going to wake up and let impeachment go forward so we can save this country from this meglomaniac?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:57 am“There’s clearly a psychicologificatinal issue that’s causing most people to not believe what I say.”
July 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amNo, Mr. President, war fatigue is affecting your psychology. The rest of America - the rest of the world - has been at least skeptical if not outright opposed to your bullsh*t invasion since it began.
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Protests_against_the_Iraq_War
July 12th, 2007 at 11:59 am“First of all, I understand why the American people are — you know, they’re tired of the war.”
No, no, no. We’re tired of your war! This didn’t just happen all by itself, you did this! We’re tired of yourwar, we’re tired of your party and we’re tired of you! Do you get it yet?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:00 pmThat’s funny CT, being that GW has removed himself from reality years ago.
It’s very telling that GW would discuss the “psychology” of the american people and then ignore it.
America is standing up against this wayward official. He is not our king. America is demanding a change in course and we aren’t going to be silenced.
Reality is good CT, you should try it some time.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmMore like Bush fatigue
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmHe’s at it again:
“Al Qaeda in Iraq has pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden,” Bush said. “We need to take al Qaeda in Iraq seriously just like we need to take al Qaeda anywhere in the world seriously.”
Except when it’s al Qaeda in Pakistan or Afghanistan. Especially if you’re talking about their leader. Then it’s “I truly am not that concerned about him.â€
This is where the White House press corps is supposed to point out to the president that he’s the one responsible for al Qaeda thriving throughout the Middle East and around the world, and for al Qaeda being in Iraq now. Somebody with balls? Helen Thomas, perhaps? Anybody? [chirp-chirp]
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmHow amazingly condescending of him!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pm“You’re not to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”
-MALCOLM X
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmImpeachment has to happen. I got this email with link this morning. This sounded like a great idea:
http://www.theyoungturks.com/section/Enough
Perhaps something like this will catch on and swell like a wildfire..
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pm“It is a war in which the enemy will kill innocent women and children to achieve their objective.” President Bush.
“On September 16th 2001, the N.Y.Times reported that the US demanded that Pakistan cut off food aid to Afghanistan.”
“Washington demanded the elimination of truck convoys that provide much of the food and other supplies to Afghanistans civilian population” food that was keeping million of (”innocent women and children”) just this side of starvation. Are these Taliban? No. They too are the victoms of Taliban.”
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmOh Jesus.
Bush thinks this is a game of Civ 3.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmI’m listening to the moron on C-SPAN right now. I still can’t understand how he got elected in the first place. This guy is just plain stupid.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pm“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government…”
T. JEFFERSON
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmTo paraphrase Tennyson “into the valley of death” rode the 160,000. Get those troops out of that slaughterhouse before more of them return to this country maimed, broken, and crippled. Impeach before this administration starts another illegal war against Iran, which will end up killing hundrreds of thousands of innocent Iranians, many of whom are under the age of 15.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pmComment by CT_V1
CT is tripping on too many anti-psychotic drugs again.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pmWhat a mouthful!
…there’s war fatigue in America. It’s affecting our psychology.
I wonder how it’s affecting the troops.
It’s a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective.
How many times do you suppose that’s been said about us?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pmCould someone at ThinkProgress give some context for the chyron that played during Mr. Bush’s statements? The ones that were saying Iraq had “satisfactorily met” something like 8 of 20 benchmarks.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 pmDenial and Projection.
The Cornerstones of mental illness and addiction.
Its not me. YOU don’t understand because you (insert own fears/weaknesses here)…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pm“Pelosi, when the f*ck are you going to wake up and let impeachment go forward so we can save this country from this meglomaniac?
Comment by Wayne — July 12, 2007 @ 11:57 am”
They never will…….
The many many emails I have received from the Congress all say the same thing.
It is better to move forward with the Dems agenda, then to spend time on this.
I wrote back to Obama, the latest email, and told him not to be suprised if in 08 the Dems don’t get as many votes as they expect because America is fed up with the Dems not doing anything about this.
The fact that they refuse to hold the RULE OF LAW a main priority, then they will fail. That is why America put them into power was to control the corruption and to stop the war.
I’ll wait to see what he says after this reply.
Their whole premis is that it is a waste of time……. I just told him that OK, so your telling me that it is OK to comit crimes so long as the police are too busy! I’ll just wait until a large even occurs and then comit a crime, as by your indication as long as the police are busy they should not care or even try to stop other crimes….
Let’s see how he can defend this?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pmHouse or senate?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pm8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ POLITICS/ 07/ 12/ us.iraq/ index.html
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmIf George Bush wasn’t such a freakin’ cowardly piece of crap, he’s go out and mix freely with his citizens to find out what they’re thinking. If he did, he’s find out pretty damn quick that 70% of his citizens think he’s a lying, incompetent sack of shit.
But he won’t. George Bush is scared of his own citizens. How pathetic in that?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmLibs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 pm“8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ POLITICS/ 07/ 12/ us.iraq/ index.html
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 pm”
Which benchmarks, and how well were they met???
I can say that a benchmark for my newborn is to talk, and when he cries declare that this benchmark has been met because he made a sound….
Sorry, but this does not hold water YET!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pmIt’s failure fatigue, GDumbya!
Wrap your puny little mind around that and see if you can’t “fully understand” it, skidmark!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pm8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
Whoopee! Billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and years later we have ALMOST HALF of the benchmark earning “C’s”… the rest - not so much.
“Satifactory” - ffft - way to use an arbitrary term to justify absolute failure.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 pmPelosi, when the f*ck are you going to wake up…
A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict.
Remember, it wasn’t the Dems who forced Nixon to resign: it was Republicans on the Hill, trying to save their own lame asses. The best way to force Bush out is to keep turning up the heat under the GOP until they are forced to make Bush and Cheney walk the plank.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pm“Libs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Comment by Flaco — July 12, 2007 @ 12:07 pm”
NO!!!
Were tired of the war because it is wasting innocent lives, on both sides……
It is taking MONEY out of my pocket and is Bankrupting me and my family!!!!
I made less 6 years ago, and had more money…… I make more now and have less money all because of the costs associated with Bush and his CRIMINAL cabal……
I long for the days of Budget surplusses and low gas prices…..
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pmLibs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Right, pantload.
Thank goodness it isn’t cutting in to Condoleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezza’s shoe safaris and golf time.
It doesn’t seem to be restricting GDumbya’s brush-cutting, fishing and bike-riding schedule, either.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pmHe understands nothing.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pm“Libs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Comment by Flaco
You poor misguided fool…
It was BUSH who told us ALL to go shopping after 9/11…
Or don’t you remember events around that day?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmChymp fatigue is definitely affecting my psychology.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmI just can’t take much more of this goddamn BS.
I read that list. One of the benchmarks that was “successful” was to reduce sectarian violence in Iraq.
Yeah, right. it’s much better there.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmSenator Byron Dorgan is on C SPAN right now putting the lie to Bush’s ‘war on terror’ pointing out that Iraq is not the central front in the war on terror, and asking why we have allowed Al-Qaeda and Osama to go scott- free. He’s called Bush (he just finished) on his bullshiite!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmLet’s fact it, folks; our president is an idiot.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pm“A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict.
Remember, it wasn’t the Dems who forced Nixon to resign: it was Republicans on the Hill, trying to save their own lame asses. The best way to force Bush out is to keep turning up the heat under the GOP until they are forced to make Bush and Cheney walk the plank.
Comment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 12:11 pm”
Right, but they forced Nixon because Impeachment was moving forward and the evidence was undisputible…..
The same needs to be done NOW!!!!!
There is MORE than enough evidence to convict….. If the Repubs want to stand by Bush when the evidence is made public, then let them but it would be their demise…..
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmNo, Dubya… what we are fatigued about is your import/export plan; we import 3600 body bags and coffins filled with REAL Americans and export over a half a trillion of OUR US dollars.
And I have to tell ya, Codpiece Commander Guy, that ain’t workin’ out too well for the rest of us REAL Americans!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmMore like “pissing away American lives in the middle of nowhere for nothing” fatigue.
George Bush doesn’t get that because George Bush doesn’t give a damn about his country.
Yeah, we knew that. We’re just running the clock out on this loser.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pm.
Which benchmarks, and how well were they met???
I can say that a benchmark for my newborn is to talk, and when he cries declare that this benchmark has been met because he made a sound….
Sorry, but this does not hold water YET!
Comment by RemoveBush
The benchmarks were established by congress, here is the report.
http://i.a.cnn.net/ cnn/ 2007/ images/ 07/ 12/ final.benchmark.report.pdf
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmYou poor misguided fool…
It was BUSH who told us ALL to go shopping after 9/11…
Or don’t you remember events around that day?
Comment by Technodaoist — July 12, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Good one, he was only 12 years old; nice historical perspective.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmMore Bush wisdom on Americans’ feelings about Iraq:
“It’s hard for me, living in this beautiful White House, to give you an assessment.”
President Bush, on civil war in Iraq, February 14, 2007.
“They sacrifice peace of mind when they see the terrible images of violence on TV every night.”
President Bush on the war-time sacrifices of the American people, January 16, 2007.
“Death is terrible.”
President Bush, January 16, 2007.
“Death is terrible.”
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmPresident Bush, April 19, 2007.
The idiots over at redstate will NEVER suffer from war fatigue.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmasking why we have allowed Al-Qaeda and Osama to go scott- free
Because 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to this administration. They really, really need another one, so why should they go after Osama? That wouldn’t make sense from a Republican standpoint.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm.
Ah, but Flaco, remember that it was YOUR president who told us to go shopping in the name of Freedom and Liberty and America in the first place…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm“The benchmarks were established by congress, here is the report.
http://i.a.cnn.net/ cnn/ 2007/ images/ 07/ 12/ final.benchmark.report.pdf
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:14 pm”
I know……
Which ones have been met and how well were they met????
Are you that stupid, or are you just playing one on TP?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm#49 Flaco
Libs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Wow, that’s lamer than your usual lame stuff. Just phoning it in today?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pmThat’s not what he said.
8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ POLITICS/ 07/ 12/ us.iraq/ index.html
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
He said this:
“Of the 18 benchmarks Congress asked us to measure, we can report that satisfactory progress is being made in eight areas,” Bush said during a White House news conference.
“Progress” toward a benchmark does not equal “achieve.” Benchmarks are of a binary nature: you either achieve them or not. A water treatment plant that has made 90% progress toward operation still does not produce clean drinking water.
This sort of measure applies to his work in this country, too. A New Orleans levee that is 90% leakfree has shown progress, but it still FICKING LEAKS!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:16 pmLibs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Comment by Flaco — July 12, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
How’s that? It doesn’t even make sense. If you’re trying to insult us, you’re doing a damn poor job, kinda like that Vice President Bush of yours.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmAll of Bush’s presentations and public speaking forums make him sound like a third-grader–I really noticed this watching him in Cleveland yesterday. Is this because these topics are spoon-fed to him by Karl Rove in a manner a third-grader could understand? The man is without any depth or intellect . . . and you thought Reagan was stupid . . .
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmYes jjbear do your patriotic shopping and let the real men protect the rest of us.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:18 pmThere is a price for all things. There is a price for all of you to drive your cars, trucks and SUV’s. One of the costs is aproximately 45,000 lives from auto accidents every year. Another of the costs is aproximately 1,200 soldiers lives so that we can keep the oil flowing. And there are lives that are spent during the transportation and refining the oil. The total cost is about 55,000 lives so that you can keep driving whatever automobile you drive. And as long as you keep driving a car, then you are a part of this equation.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:18 pmWar Fatigue? That applies to our Armed Forces and Reserves who are being returned Iraq and Afghanistan again and again without adequate rest, protection, and support. I myself am sick of listening to Little G’s Bullshit, though I am not personally fatigued from fighting in somebody else’s civil war.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmImages of terrible violence are simple, undeniable reality. We won the war years ago, we lost the peace. What happens to any country when you kick out the government then disband the military and the police force? Add long simmering Sunni vs. Shia and clan vs. clan resentments, not forgetting the Kurds in this recipe and , voila! Insurgency delux. Chalk another sterling acomplishment up for George W. Its easy to make excuses. Its hard to face reality.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pm#53 Arthur C.
A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict.
Just keep up the steady drumbeat. Keep it in the news until they can’t say Bush or Cheney’s name anymore without the word “impeach” in the same sentence.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmA two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict. — Arthur C.
Yeah, all DA’s should follow this example.
No DA should ever bring a murderer or child molestor to trial unless he can determine that the jury pool with definately decide to convict with no chance of the charged criminal being aquitted.
We should just let them roam free and never bring charges because it would be a waste of time
what a concept.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmYa’ll are nuts!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pmYes jjbear do your patriotic shopping and let the real men protect the rest of us.
Comment by Flaco
Flaco - you troll.
Can’t stomach my post, so you ignore and make the same lame attack on someone else…
AGAIN - FOR YOU
BUSH WANTED US ALL TO GO SHOPPING AFTER 9/11
So you aren’t doing your duty, or you are a hypocrite - and I’m putting my money on BOTH.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pmThere is only one benchmark that matters; see Kucinich’s speech on the house floor on may 23 of this year. It’s the benchmark that puts into law big energy control of Iraqi oil for 30 years. Even some Democrats seem to support this benchmark.
If you want to know why we are in Iraq, just look up the Kucinich speech I cited.
Kent Conrad is ripping them a new one on the Senate florr right now!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pmAnother of the costs is aproximately 1,200 soldiers lives so that we can keep the oil flowing.
No, oil was flowing to us from Iraq right up to the beginning of the invasion. So it doesn’t take a single life to “keep the oil flowing” since it wasn’t stopping in the first place.
Nevermind how much the occupation’s failure to establish order has actually hurt the Iraqi oil industry. Far from “keeping the oil flowing,” the invasion has made it more difficult and, at times, lowered its production.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pm.
Yes jjbear do your patriotic shopping and let the real men protect the rest of us.
Comment by Flaco
REAL men!?! LOL. Don’t make me laugh. You mean real men like the ones who are too cowardly to actually go to war THEMSELVES or send their children over there?
Oh right I forgot about the neocon division of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists.
You people are a laughingstock.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmWhoopee! Billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and years later we have ALMOST HALF of the benchmark earning “C’sâ€â€¦ the rest - not so much.
“Satifactory†- ffft - way to use an arbitrary term to justify absolute failure.
Comment by Technodaoist
Actually 8 received unsatisfactory marks.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmIf George Bush wasn’t such a freakin’ cowardly piece of crap, he’s go out and mix freely with his citizens to find out what they’re thinking. If he did, he’s find out pretty damn quick that 70% of his citizens think he’s a lying, incompetent sack of shit.
But he won’t. George Bush is scared of his own citizens. How pathetic in that?
Comment by Arthur C
No president is able to mix freely with his citizens, and as for his cowardice—you’re wrong again. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing. You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmWe’re not waiting for Bush to say yes or no on Iraq. We know his demise and departure are imminent.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmal Qaeda has “rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since the summer of 2001.â€
——-That’s my favorite part.
In January, Bush claimed that Americans “sacrifice peace of mind when they see the terrible image of violence on TV every night,†—– With all due respect, Sir….What are YOU sacrificing?
adding that “the psychology of the country…is somewhat down because of this war.†—Yep, roughly 70% ‘down’
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmlet the real men protect the rest of us
Yes, only conservatives who whine about liberals, who are scared to death of feminists, and who are afraid of their own shadow when it comes to terrorism are “real men.” “Real men” like Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh.
Yep. Al Qaeda is quivering with fear at the thought of all you pudgy white entitlement tantrums who are the only “real men” in America.
Back to your enlargement pump, you feminized moron.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pm.
Flaco, there is not a real man in the entire Bush administration. Unless that was a relative statement to your sorry existence on this planet.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI know……
Which ones have been met and how well were they met????
Are you that stupid, or are you just playing one on TP?
Comment by RemoveBush
Read the report, are 27 pages too much for you?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmLet’s fact it, folks; our president is an idiot.
Comment by spit take
I faced that fact in 1999.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmThinkprogress.org Director of Surrender Monkeys, Zooey Fatone.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmBush’s utter cluelessness is nothing short of frightening.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmBULLSHIT FATIGUE.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmImpeachment needs to be put on the table…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pm#80 chimpeach: Just keep up the steady drumbeat.
I could not agree more. I just hope our side can refrain from demonizing Pelosi, which only strengthens the White House’s hand, and lay blame where it belongs, with Bush’s minions in Congress, which will move the country towards Bush’s eviction from the White House.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmYou hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less
I can make spurious , unfounded, irrational arguments too.
You like Bush because we hate Bush. How pathetic is that?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmWe have no idea what oil production in Iraq is because of
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 pma) The chaos
b)There is a pipeline that goes straight to Kuwait, built just after the invasion
c)The wells in Iraq, unlike every other oil-producing nation, have no meters on them.
Who can answer these questions?
How much oil is currently leaving Iraq?
Who is taking it out?
Where does the money for this oil go?
I do not know the answers, but would love to know.
Bush admits administration leaked CIA name
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19728346/
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 pmComment by 20wordsor less
Uh, dickhead, I was saying the same thing when it was very unpopular to do so. And you’re right, it DOES take a tremendous amount of courage to stand against popular opinion.
So that makes you a flaming coward from 2002-2005. But the difference here is that nothing is going to vindicate you in the end like it did with us.
It’s over.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pmIt takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing.
“Do the right thing”? What, by making al Qaeda stronger? Bush isn’t standing against the tide, he’s an aristocrat who never gave a damn about ordinary Americans, especially the ones he’s sent to die. The only reason Bush won’t leave is because of his ego.
You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do
No, I despise Bush for the damage he’s done to my country. You’ll embrace him because you don’t give a damn about your country. Your ideology matters, nothing else. Why else would you embrace a manifest failure?
Bush has only failure to show for all he’s spent and killed. The only reason Republicans support that is because they put party ahead of country. Demographically and politically, America doesn’t look like the Republican party any more, so it’s no wonder they don’t mind throwing America away.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pm.
Thinkprogress.org Director of Surrender Monkeys, Zooey Fatone.
Comment by CT_V1
^===LAME
Entertain me already, you sad sad trolls! Can’t you come up with something better than re-used talking point insults?!?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pmLet us never forget what the great idiot George Bush once said, “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and niether do we.” Now everytime Bush tries to defend is failed Iraq policy, just remember what is daid at one of his $417 billion defense bill signings.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pm“Of the 18 benchmarks Congress asked us to measure, we can report that satisfactory progress is being made in eight areas,†Bush said during a White House news conference.
“Progress†toward a benchmark does not equal “achieve.†Benchmarks are of a binary nature: you either achieve them or not. A water treatment plant that has made 90% progress toward operation still does not produce clean drinking water.
This sort of measure applies to his work in this country, too. A New Orleans levee that is 90% leakfree has shown progress, but it still FICKING LEAKS!
Comment by Bienville
This is just a report on status. Showing progress is important to show that the military is working on achieving the benchmarks. We need to know where there are, not just wait until they are done.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pmRegardless of what you all say, i’m in loooove with our president. He’s dreamy eyed and I want to marry him and have his babies.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pm“Read the report, are 27 pages too much for you?
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:23 pm”
YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!
Which one of the BENCHMARKS have been met???????
Not WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:28 pm“8 out of 18 benchmarks being made…”
Only one problem with the statement: Bush went and moved the stakes on the gridiron so the benchmarks could be made, then Pretreus will move the goal posts back. The Bush policy on Iraq hasn’t changed, nor has the tactics.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pmIt’s a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective.
I wonder how many innocent men, women and children we have killed with our bombs..
Something else that really bothers me.
It just seems so convenient to label every single incident or ‘enemy’ as al Qaeda. Do they wear badges or name tags or something that identifies them as such? Every person they deem an enemy or who is carrying a gun or bomb gets placed in the al Qaeda category. After each battle, who decides and who identifies these guys as to what group the belong with? They can’t seem to keep track of anything else over there (the millions and billions of dollars), how do they manage that?
Seems deceptive to me, and misleading (and convenient) to keep being able to say it is al Qaeda in Iraq that we are fighting. There are a LOT of people and various factions who we are fighting and who are mad at us over there who want to cause us harm and damage - and who WANT US TO LEAVE! We broke their country and started a blood bath for God’s sake! We created the instability that they have to live in. They don’t have basic needs being met. They live every day in fear. They don’t have jobs or income and they don’t get the revenue from their own oil production. Every day, every week and every month seems to get even worse. I have no idea how many deaths are from each other and how many deaths we are responsible for. What a horrendous mess!
I can’t imagine what that must be like. How do we ever fix this if we just continue to label every person who retaliates, or is fighting to take control of their country, or who is battling an ancient sectarian foe, identify them as al Qaeda to justify us continuing on in this war which was based in the first place on lies and forged evidence? We started this spiral downward.
Us leaving will probably cause even more deaths, but nothing will stop that now. We put this horrible thing in motion. The will fight it out until they figure it out, until they get tired of the killing. Us staying there only postpones the inevitable and in the menatime we lose more soldiers every day this drags out. $12 Billion a month now!! Holy crap!! I heard someone speak yesterday on the Senate floor about the need for us to stand down so they WILL stand up. To me that says it all. We may not like the solution they find, but it IS their country. It is not our place to decide their future or their destiny. We have no business being there.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pmThis is all about empire building. It is wrong.
I smell troll droppings. whew!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 pm#61: So what? We’ve got smart people running him.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 pmYou hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less
i hate him because he is a liar and a war criminal. i hated him before it was popular, and I will hate him long after they stick that coward in the ground.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:31 pmEntertain me already, you sad sad trolls! Can’t you come up with something better than re-used talking point insults?!?
Comment by Technodaoist
The left’s talking-points template is too good to pass up, so I’ll continue to use that, leech-winger.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 pm#108: You’ve got to stand in line for that. He’s already got Laura (his political wife), Harriet (his work wife) and Condi (his playtime wife).
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 pmRight On Wayne!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pmRighteous indignation.
Thanks to you and your family for serving our country.
No president is able to mix freely with his citizens, and as for his cowardice—you’re wrong again. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing. You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less — July 12, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
He mixed freely with Albanian citizens, as I recall. Why does he have this freedom in Tirana and not Washington?
And regarding your point about courage and popular opinion - I should remind you that this is still (for now) a democracy. Governing by the consent of the governed is not cowardice, it’s the fundamental principle underlying our Constitution.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pm#108 will be reported as a name-jacker. Let’s hope they ban you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pm#117: Oops… sorry about that. I just came back from trolling a rightwing blog and was kind of stuck in that character. Just ignore that.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pm“8 out of 18 benchmarks”
Ok, let’s cut this sh*t out right now. There are a number of reasons why Bush should be eviscerated for his absolutely insane assertion that this is progress, but let’s just mention a few:
1. Qualitative metrics are worthless. Completely worthless. There is no math involved, there is no calculation, there is only success within the goals established under the conditions specified, or not. Since there are no conditions specified - other than the existence of other benchmarks - it is assumed that none of the benchmarks is achieved unless they all are. “The flag is still flying” is a pretty f*cking irrelevant goal if the building it was flying in front of has burned to the ground.
2. Not all of the benchmarks laid out are equal. For example, “Establishing supporting political, media, economic, and services committees in support of the Baghdad Security Plan” is probably important, but might not be as essential as, say… “Reducing the level of sectarian violence in Iraq and eliminating militia control of local security.” See? One is about establishing communication, the other is about thousands of people dying. Still feeling proud about your “8″?
3. There is no corresponding data to show that the “surge” has had anything to do with the success of any goals at all. In fact, it is equally arguable that the goals themselves would have been achieved back in 2005 if we had got the f*ck out of the country and let them do it themselves.
We could go on - and any semi-intelligent analytical body charged with the responsibility would - but let’s just leave it at this: Throwing sh*t at the fan from a different angle is not change.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pmReal Men? Let’s talk about a Real Man, shall we?
What would a Real Man do the moment he’s told America is under attack?
What? Sit there for another 7 (SEVEN!) minutes and continue reading to school children? That’s what a Real Man would do?
F*ck! ReichWingNuts have been punked and they’re too stupid to know it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pm“Read the report, are 27 pages too much for you?
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:23 pmâ€
YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!
Which one of the BENCHMARKS have been met???????
Not WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush — July 12, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Allow me to clarify……
I read the report, but that is about as vague as Bush’s understanding of the English language…….
Like I said previously……
To say that it is “Satisfatory” when there is no details to the situation means NOTHING!!!
As I stated….. If I set a benchmark for my newborn to talk, this is vague….. As when he cries I can say the benchmark is “Satsifactory” since he made a noise no his way to being able to speak…..
Man now I see why you back this President, your as bright as he is. (Which is an IQ of about -10,0000)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAnother of the costs is aproximately 1,200 soldiers lives so that we can keep the oil flowing.
What if the goal was not to keep the flow of oil going, but to DISRUPT the oil flow. That HAS happened. They can then control the price of oil because of the demand. When we started this war, the price of oil was like $22.00 a barrel. Yesterday I looked and it hit something like $73.00 a barrel. With the increase in price, they can squeeze money out of every single person in the country (and elsewhere) and literally make a killing.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmWhat happens if the carry this war into Iran and disrupt the oilflow there as well? Will the price of a barrel go up to $150.00 a barrel? More? Can you imagine the impact to our economy? Businesses? Every American? Where does all that money go? Corporations or is it a handful of very powerful individuals?
YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!
Which one of the BENCHMARKS have been met???????
Not WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush
Read the report, the report states what received a satisfactory grade and gives detail. Seriously are you stupid or lazy, just read the report.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmHowdy CT!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmClearly, those knuckles are bruised from dragging on the ground.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmYou hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less
I can make spurious , unfounded, irrational arguments too.
You like Bush because we hate Bush. How pathetic is that?
Comment by Technodaoist
Are you the clueless, or did you actually go out of your way to miss the point? Arthur C made the spurious and unfounded argument by saying;
…But he won’t. George Bush is scared of his own citizens. How pathetic in that?
Comment by Arthur C
He accused Bush of being pathetic with a baseless argument, and I accused him of being pathetic by using the same baseless argumentation just to see if he was smart enough to the flaw in his logic. But you came along and proved that you’re not smart enough to get it either—That is pathetic.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmGreetings, Mr. GMU student who’s NOT majoring in Surrender Science!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmUMMMM….
Excuse me, but did all of you miss georgie just admitted to HIGH TREASON…?
Bush admits administration leaked CIA name
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19728346/
Oh nevermind.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmHey Zooey and the other regulars. Have you heard anything from Faiz? Are they finally getting their asses in gear and finally implementing a registration system? We are getting sick of the namejackers, too.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmOnly one problem with the statement: Bush went and moved the stakes on the gridiron so the benchmarks could be made, then Pretreus will move the goal posts back. The Bush policy on Iraq hasn’t changed, nor has the tactics.
Comment by MN Dem
Please explain how Bush moved the stakes.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmWait a sec here, I thought AQ was basically a non-existent threat, a supposed enemy kept alive by the Bush adminstration to keep America scared of muslims?
Additionally, who is grading this democrat-controlled congress? The Iraqi congress has gotten more done in the last six months than our own, if they had to live by their own benchmarks, we would have abandoned D.C. as a lost cause and retreated to Virginia.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmWar Fatigue Affecting Troll Psychology
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TP Trolls Making Ever Less Sense;
July 12th, 2007 at 12:41 pmFull Meltdown Mode Coming?
He accused Bush of being pathetic with a baseless argument
It’s not baseless, he’s just paying attention and you aren’t. Bush lives in a bubble. He has to. When in his life has he ever shown guts? How many times has he bristled at non-groveling questions? He’s surrounded by yes-men because he’s an insecure little man.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:41 pm.
#130 - UMMMM….
Excuse me, but did all of you miss georgie just admitted to HIGH TREASON…?
Bush admits administration leaked CIA name
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19728346/
Oh nevermind.
And the punishment for traitors is? Ms Pelosi? Mr Reid? Anyone? Anyone at all? [silence]
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmReal Men? Let’s talk about a Real Man, shall we?
What would a Real Man do the moment he’s told America is under attack?
What? Sit there for another 7 (SEVEN!) minutes and continue reading to school children? That’s what a Real Man would do?
F*ck! ReichWingNuts have been punked and they’re too stupid to know it.
Comment by JesusChrist_GodOfWar
So tell me real man, what did you do when you learned that America was under attack?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmBush is clearly well aware of the concerns of the people.
They have war fatigue, that’s all.
A little Gatorade ™ and they’ll get back in the mood to go alkaida huntin’ in no time!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmHe’s surrounded by yes-men because he’s an insecure little man
Bush is totally out of touch with reality, and that’s why he’s the only President in history to lose two wars. He doesn’t have what it takes to win: regular contact with reality. He lives in Fantasyland.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:43 pmComment by The Troll Consortium
Actually, lefties make up just about all of the name-jackers on this page.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pm#140: Yeah, we know. In our opinion we’d all be better off with a simple registration system.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pmWAAAAAAAAAAH! REGISTRATION!
WAAAAAAAAAAH! RADIO DUHVERSITY!
WAAAAAAAAAAH! BUSH LIE I CRY!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAH!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 pmActually, lefties make up just about all of the name-jackers on this page.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
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100% true!!!
They are jealous of our original style, so they steal our names!
Pathetic.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 pmBush outdid himself this morning. He did not even have the decency or dignity to prepare himself with facts before addressing the press. Bush and his supporters — like Mitch McConnell — should be ashamed of themselves. But they have no shame.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pmIt takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing. You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… Dumbf*ck
Boy George had the support of the country and the rest of the world when we went into Afghanistan. When he diverted the effort to fight his personal Crusade in Iraq he lost both the country and the world. It was not the right thing to do. We knew it then and we know it now.
When I say we, I don’t include the “Bush is my God” trolls who will defend Bush at every step.
Bush’s shares a lot of characteristics with Son of Sam. A murdering psychotic who listens to the Jebus whispering in his ear telling him to kill someone.
But you pitiful whore trolls keep it up. As every day goes by, the onion of Bush supporters gets peeled back until there is nothing but the pus filled core of 20%ers remaining in one huge circle jerk.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pmIn our opinion we’d all be better off with a simple registration system.
Comment by The Troll Consortium — July 12, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
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I wouldn’t mind that at all, since it is the Lefties who steal names in the first place!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pmSo tell me real man, what did you do when you learned that America was under attack?
Uh, did you think you were addressing the president? Or, since he isn’t the president, are you just trying to change the subject?
Thought so.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pm.
What? Sit there for another 7 (SEVEN!) minutes and continue reading to school children? That’s what a Real Man would do?
F*ck! ReichWingNuts have been punked and they’re too stupid to know it.
No, a real man would educate himself about the standards of protection that will surround him and smartly decide not to run into the street while an attack on the nation is in progress until his Secret Service detail has more information and a plan. A dem would have stood up, peed his pants, fainted, been revived and immediately requested a croissant.
Or I suppose we could look to Senator Mark Dayton(D-MN) who was the ONLY senator to run home and hide under his bed.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pmI read the report, but that is about as vague as Bush’s understanding of the English language…….
Like I said previously……
To say that it is “Satisfatory†when there is no details to the situation means NOTHING!!!
As I stated….. If I set a benchmark for my newborn to talk, this is vague….. As when he cries I can say the benchmark is “Satsifactory†since he made a noise no his way to being able to speak…..
Man now I see why you back this President, your as bright as he is. (Which is an IQ of about -10,0000)
Comment by RemoveBush
Clearly you have comprehension issues. The report does give details on the status of benchmarks. You comparison to the war and your newborn talking is pretty weak. However, benchmarks can be established in regards to your child talking and progress can be shown. If he starts to form sounds like da and ma, then he begins saying dada or googoo, that would mean that he is progressing. To say crying would be a benchmark is ridiculous as babies cry from the day they are born.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:48 pmWhen was the last time Herr Bushco went out in THIS country, and just visited folks.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pmWithout preselecting them.
Just regular folks.
I can’t seem to recall, except for some bar he went to during campaign 2004…
If Bush thinks we’re fatigued, then what does he think our soldiers on their forth and fifth tours feel?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pmAll I want is for you people to accept me. Why won’t you accept me?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pmYou’re wrong.
Americans DO need psychology testing (over 60% of us are on anti-depressants)for having voted the buffoon into office twice and for their passive aggressive behavior when it comes to foreign relations.
And they also need an end to an unjustified foreign war, and security from international terrorism.
A pretty tall order to expect from G.W. Bush and his admin.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pm#
Wait a sec here, I thought AQ was basically a non-existent threat, a supposed enemy kept alive by the Bush adminstration to keep America scared of muslims?
Additionally, who is grading this democrat-controlled congress? The Iraqi congress has gotten more done in the last six months than our own, if they had to live by their own benchmarks, we would have abandoned D.C. as a lost cause and retreated to Virginia.
Comment by Blackwater — July 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Not quite.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmAl-qaeda is a very real threat, although how they are financed is of some interest. We know how they got their initial training. They (CIA) even brought Osama to the USA for part of that training! So, they are a real threat, and as Democratic Senators have been saying all morning. And the policies of this administration have allowed them to flourish. Mr. Bush said he doesn’t care about Osama, or think that much about him. Yeah, except when he needs him. The point is, Iraq is a diversion, planned long before Bush was named President. The war in Iraq allowed al-qaeda to enter the country, and the threat from al-qaeda in Iraq can be dealt with by Iraqis. We need to let them take care of their own business, back off this Iran posturing, and go after the people who were responsible for 9/11. Thus far Bush has given them a pass. Support of Bush, is support of Osama and whoever is responsible for 9/11. Judge Bush by his actions or lack of, not the crap spewing out of his mouth. Can you spell failure?
Democrats will suffer low approval numbers as long as they refuse to do the will of the majority. Yes, the Democrats are a bunch of pussies. Let’s make them into tigers!
Yuck, I almost stepped in a pile of troll food.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmA dem would have stood up, peed his pants, fainted, been revived and immediately requested a croissant.
Just like on 1993?
Welcome back to the real world, dumbass.
Eighteen months later, the Clinton administration had tried, convicted, sentenced, and punished the entire WTC 1993 ring. All these years later, Osama is still out there, Bush still doesn’t give a crap, and conservatives are scared of their own shadow (which is why the go running to Big Daddy conservatism).
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pm.
I have feelings, you know.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:51 pmYou’re drinking the koolaid and I’m not. Surrounded by yes men? How dillusional can you be? The only time I’ve seen Bush bristle at questions is when a false premise is interjected along with the question. How would you like it? Here try this one on for size— Given the fact that modern day liberals are only concerned with overthrowing traditional and religious values, are you surprised by the sheer volume of anti conservative comments found on liberal blogs such as this?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:52 pmWhen was the last time Herr Bushco went out in THIS country, and just visited folks.
CNN reported that Bush is afraid to attend D.C. area eating establishments for fear he’ll be booed or otherwise confronted with his failures.
He’s askeered to.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:52 pmI remember when the last few times the democrat presidential nominee went out in public; he fell over on his snowboard and swore at his security detail, he dressed up in nylon and rode his $5000 bike, he hefted a shotgun over his shoulder then requested help on loading it, and he lifted his pinkie and delicately nibbled on a Philly cheesesteak sandwich (with swiss cheese).
Just a regular guy.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pmI think the definition of insanity is repeating the
same self-destructive act and expecting
a different outcome.
-Annie
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pmbush has ‘fact-fatigue’ and/or ‘reality-fatigue.’
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pm