Bush Dismisses Iraq Critics: ‘War Fatigue’ Is Affecting Their ‘Psychology’
Bush Dismisses Iraq Critics: ‘War Fatigue’ Is Affecting Their ‘Psychology’
Today in his press conference, a reporter asked President Bush why he is “so resistant” to a “change of course in Iraq,” even though that’s what the American public is “clamoring for.” Bush dismissed the reporter’s question, stating that he isn’t surprised “that there is deep concern amongst our people,” but ascribed it to “war fatigue.” “It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that.” Watch it:
“War fatigue” is not the problem in Iraq. On every metric, the administration’s efforts in Iraq are failing. More than 3,600 Americans have been killed in Iraq, and Bush’s escalation still has not had any significant effect on reducing the violence. Additionally, al Qaeda has “rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since the summer of 2001.”
In January, Bush claimed that Americans “sacrifice peace of mind when they see the terrible image of violence on TV every night,” adding that “the psychology of the country…is somewhat down because of this war.” First Lady Laura Bush has also argued that “no one suffers more than their President and I do.”
Americans don’t need psychological counseling from President Bush; they need an end to the war in Iraq.
Transcript:
Q: Mr. President, in addition to members of your own party, the American public is clamoring for a change of course in Iraq.
Why are you so resistant to that idea, and how much longer are you willing to give the surge to work before considering a change in this policy?
BUSH: First of all, I understand why the American people are — you know, they’re tired of the war. People are — there’s war fatigue in America. It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that. This is an ugly war. It’s a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective. It doesn’t surprise me that there is deep concern amongst our people.
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Or at least gross incompetence and bullshit fatigue.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:43 amSorry, it’s DEATH fatigue we have, and you’re the grim reaper W.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amThat’s it, Dumbya!
Keep insulting the majority of Americans who oppose your war! That’s a great political stratergy and I bet you thought it up all by yourself, didn’t you?!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amAnd he said he wouldn’t speculate about whether he’ll base his opinion on Petraeus’s assessment in the future.
He also danced around the fact that Al Kayduh is stronger than ever.
Yep it’s all our fault.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amChimpy: The country is actually fatigued by your mismanagement of the war, sacrifice of our sons and daughters, profiteering, cronyism, failure to set measurable goals, and CONSTANT LYING.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 am“Americans don’t need psychological counseling; they need an end to the war in Iraq.”
And for Congress to put impeachment for these sociopathic fascists back on the table.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amIt’s too bad Bush doesn’t really suffer like he says he does.
Here’s hoping for a long life for Mr. Bush. Maybe wheelchair bound, open sores oozing pus on the sheets, a colostomy bag, and two or three fewer limbs than he now has.
That’s what this evil f*ck has brought upon tens of thousands of our finest, and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Good for the goose should be good for that bastard.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amAmericans don’t need psychological counseling, Bush needs psychological counseling! He also needs a GOOD psychological assessment and evaluation of his state of mental health and integrity..
July 12th, 2007 at 11:47 amBush is the one who needs a psychologist. Unfortunately, we will soon be dealing with thousands of US soldiers who need psychologists (and more) due to PTSD.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece
July 12th, 2007 at 11:48 amAnd just imagine how fatigued his buddies would be if he actually raised taxes on his rich buddies to help pay for this war. OMG, you’d hear the siren call for withdrawal then. But this clown cuts taxes, then BORROWS the money to pay for this war from Saudi Arabia, China, Japan, etc. These people are NOT conservatives. They are traitors to this country and are not only destroying the military, but the constitution, as well as bankrupting America.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:48 amThat’s right George. We’re TIRED!!
Tired of YOUR Bloodthirsty warmongering.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:48 amBush dismissed the reporter’s question, stating that he isn’t surprised “that there is deep concern amongst our people,†but ascribed it to “war fatigue.†“It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that.â€
Troops & families! Heh heh…
SMACK!!!
With contempt,
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amYour King
Bush acknowledges that the American public is tired of this war, and that the whole bloody mess is having a detrimental impact on us emotionally and psychologically, and yet he’s decided to prolong our agony indefinitely simply to validate what’s left of his failed ideology.
If that isn’t a classic example of abuse, I don’t know what is.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amThat’s right George. Everyone else is just losing it, and you’re sane and on the right path.
Sounds pretty psychotic to me…or is that a trait of a sociopath?
Brute force doesn’t work – it never gives the results the politicians promise us. And it definitely hasn’t given good results in this war either.
I hope that people will continue to realize this before the next war starts – it never works no matter what they tell us. We Definitely need a new direction – one where war isn’t a tool to be used by these tyrants..
Some reading:
“Leaders Don’t Kill People…”
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amhttp://www.populistamerica.com/leaders_dont_kill_people
Bush is the one who needs a psychologist. Unfortunately, we will soon be dealing with thousands of US soldiers who need psychologists (and more) due to PTSD.
http://news.independent.co.uk/ world/ americas/ article2758829.ece
Comment by lw — July 12, 2007 @ 11:48 am
They have plenty of faith-based counselors at Walter Reed – that’s not good enough?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amBUSH: First of all, I understand why the American people are — you know, they’re tired of the war. People are — there’s war fatigue in America. It’s affecting our psychology. I’ve said this before. I understand that.
You understand that??? From what? Your numerous tours in Vietnam?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amOr from all your failed businesses?
You can’t even speak in coherent sentences, and you expect us to believe you understand war psychology?
F’ing moron!
I bet you couldn’t even spell psychology without the use of a teleprompter!
I liked how he completely dodged the question of who in his administration revealed Valerie Plame’s name. Weasels.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amKeep talking, Dumbya! You’ll be in the teens by fall.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amI enjoyed watching reporters asking tough questions again. While Bush says he doesn’t govern according to opinion polls, the press now realizes that he’s damaged politically (according to the polls), and aren’t being so deferential to him. The telling response from Bush is repeating his trademark “But it’s hard work…” It shows reporters in graphic form that Bush is taking refuge in the past, to insulate himself from today’s realities.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:52 amIn Bush’s world, someone else is always to blame. His fallback position for everything is some variation on the phrase “what you people have got to understand is …. blah, blah, blah.” There is never a problem with Bush’s policies or action, and any opinion to the contrary solely arises due to the failure of others to understand whatever it is the Bush thinks he understands about the situation.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:54 amWho is that reporter asking the question? I’ve seen her asking some good, agressive questions lately.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:54 amI wonder which of the big pharma companies are licking their lips at the prospect of thousands of Americans who will require drugs to deal with their PTSD and other ailments…
Oh yea…
All of them!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amI also liked the part where he invited journalists to visit him after he’s left office. Perhaps, if they are writing an article about the worst president in american history…
July 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amHold on a moment here. Who’s out of touch, Mr. Emperor?
It’s not about psychology. It’s about the reality you, King George, have created.
This is an occupation in which the military under your leadership, Dear Commander CodPiece, will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective. It doesn’t surprise me that there is a sincere lack of deep concern or understanding of reality in you or amongst your administration.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amITMFA NOW!!!
IGNORE THE LIBETROLLS
REALITY, GOOD – LIBETROLLS, BAD
July 12th, 2007 at 11:56 amThe man is a sociopath with no concept of how anyone else feels or thinks. He has no ability at all to put himself in “the other person’s shoes” and no desire to even attempt it.
Pelosi, when the f*ck are you going to wake up and let impeachment go forward so we can save this country from this meglomaniac?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:57 am“There’s clearly a psychicologificatinal issue that’s causing most people to not believe what I say.”
July 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amNo, Mr. President, war fatigue is affecting your psychology. The rest of America – the rest of the world – has been at least skeptical if not outright opposed to your bullsh*t invasion since it began.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War
July 12th, 2007 at 11:59 am“First of all, I understand why the American people are — you know, they’re tired of the war.”
No, no, no. We’re tired of your war! This didn’t just happen all by itself, you did this! We’re tired of yourwar, we’re tired of your party and we’re tired of you! Do you get it yet?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:00 pmThat’s funny CT, being that GW has removed himself from reality years ago.
It’s very telling that GW would discuss the “psychology” of the american people and then ignore it.
America is standing up against this wayward official. He is not our king. America is demanding a change in course and we aren’t going to be silenced.
Reality is good CT, you should try it some time.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmMore like Bush fatigue
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmHe’s at it again:
“Al Qaeda in Iraq has pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden,” Bush said. “We need to take al Qaeda in Iraq seriously just like we need to take al Qaeda anywhere in the world seriously.”
Except when it’s al Qaeda in Pakistan or Afghanistan. Especially if you’re talking about their leader. Then it’s “I truly am not that concerned about him.â€
This is where the White House press corps is supposed to point out to the president that he’s the one responsible for al Qaeda thriving throughout the Middle East and around the world, and for al Qaeda being in Iraq now. Somebody with balls? Helen Thomas, perhaps? Anybody? [chirp-chirp]
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmHow amazingly condescending of him!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pm“You’re not to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”
-MALCOLM X
July 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmImpeachment has to happen. I got this email with link this morning. This sounded like a great idea:
http://www.theyoungturks.com/section/Enough
Perhaps something like this will catch on and swell like a wildfire..
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pm“It is a war in which the enemy will kill innocent women and children to achieve their objective.” President Bush.
“On September 16th 2001, the N.Y.Times reported that the US demanded that Pakistan cut off food aid to Afghanistan.”
“Washington demanded the elimination of truck convoys that provide much of the food and other supplies to Afghanistans civilian population” food that was keeping million of (”innocent women and children”) just this side of starvation. Are these Taliban? No. They too are the victoms of Taliban.”
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmOh Jesus.
Bush thinks this is a game of Civ 3.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmI’m listening to the moron on C-SPAN right now. I still can’t understand how he got elected in the first place. This guy is just plain stupid.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pm“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government…”
T. JEFFERSON
July 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmTo paraphrase Tennyson “into the valley of death” rode the 160,000. Get those troops out of that slaughterhouse before more of them return to this country maimed, broken, and crippled. Impeach before this administration starts another illegal war against Iran, which will end up killing hundrreds of thousands of innocent Iranians, many of whom are under the age of 15.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pmComment by CT_V1
CT is tripping on too many anti-psychotic drugs again.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pmWhat a mouthful!
…there’s war fatigue in America. It’s affecting our psychology.
I wonder how it’s affecting the troops.
It’s a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective.
How many times do you suppose that’s been said about us?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pmCould someone at ThinkProgress give some context for the chyron that played during Mr. Bush’s statements? The ones that were saying Iraq had “satisfactorily met” something like 8 of 20 benchmarks.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:04 pmDenial and Projection.
The Cornerstones of mental illness and addiction.
Its not me. YOU don’t understand because you (insert own fears/weaknesses here)…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pm“Pelosi, when the f*ck are you going to wake up and let impeachment go forward so we can save this country from this meglomaniac?
Comment by Wayne — July 12, 2007 @ 11:57 am”
They never will…….
The many many emails I have received from the Congress all say the same thing.
It is better to move forward with the Dems agenda, then to spend time on this.
I wrote back to Obama, the latest email, and told him not to be suprised if in 08 the Dems don’t get as many votes as they expect because America is fed up with the Dems not doing anything about this.
The fact that they refuse to hold the RULE OF LAW a main priority, then they will fail. That is why America put them into power was to control the corruption and to stop the war.
I’ll wait to see what he says after this reply.
Their whole premis is that it is a waste of time……. I just told him that OK, so your telling me that it is OK to comit crimes so long as the police are too busy! I’ll just wait until a large even occurs and then comit a crime, as by your indication as long as the police are busy they should not care or even try to stop other crimes….
Let’s see how he can defend this?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pmHouse or senate?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pm8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/12/us.iraq/index.html
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmIf George Bush wasn’t such a freakin’ cowardly piece of crap, he’s go out and mix freely with his citizens to find out what they’re thinking. If he did, he’s find out pretty damn quick that 70% of his citizens think he’s a lying, incompetent sack of shit.
But he won’t. George Bush is scared of his own citizens. How pathetic in that?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmLibs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:07 pm“8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ POLITICS/ 07/ 12/ us.iraq/ index.html
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 pm”
Which benchmarks, and how well were they met???
I can say that a benchmark for my newborn is to talk, and when he cries declare that this benchmark has been met because he made a sound….
Sorry, but this does not hold water YET!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pmIt’s failure fatigue, GDumbya!
Wrap your puny little mind around that and see if you can’t “fully understand” it, skidmark!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pm8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
Whoopee! Billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and years later we have ALMOST HALF of the benchmark earning “C’s”… the rest – not so much.
“Satifactory” – ffft – way to use an arbitrary term to justify absolute failure.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:10 pmPelosi, when the f*ck are you going to wake up…
A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict.
Remember, it wasn’t the Dems who forced Nixon to resign: it was Republicans on the Hill, trying to save their own lame asses. The best way to force Bush out is to keep turning up the heat under the GOP until they are forced to make Bush and Cheney walk the plank.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pm“Libs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Comment by Flaco — July 12, 2007 @ 12:07 pm”
NO!!!
Were tired of the war because it is wasting innocent lives, on both sides……
It is taking MONEY out of my pocket and is Bankrupting me and my family!!!!
I made less 6 years ago, and had more money…… I make more now and have less money all because of the costs associated with Bush and his CRIMINAL cabal……
I long for the days of Budget surplusses and low gas prices…..
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pmLibs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Right, pantload.
Thank goodness it isn’t cutting in to Condoleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezza’s shoe safaris and golf time.
It doesn’t seem to be restricting GDumbya’s brush-cutting, fishing and bike-riding schedule, either.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pmHe understands nothing.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pm“Libs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Comment by Flaco
You poor misguided fool…
It was BUSH who told us ALL to go shopping after 9/11…
Or don’t you remember events around that day?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmChymp fatigue is definitely affecting my psychology.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmI just can’t take much more of this goddamn BS.
I read that list. One of the benchmarks that was “successful” was to reduce sectarian violence in Iraq.
Yeah, right. it’s much better there.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmSenator Byron Dorgan is on C SPAN right now putting the lie to Bush’s ‘war on terror’ pointing out that Iraq is not the central front in the war on terror, and asking why we have allowed Al-Qaeda and Osama to go scott- free. He’s called Bush (he just finished) on his bullshiite!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmLet’s fact it, folks; our president is an idiot.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pm“A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict.
Remember, it wasn’t the Dems who forced Nixon to resign: it was Republicans on the Hill, trying to save their own lame asses. The best way to force Bush out is to keep turning up the heat under the GOP until they are forced to make Bush and Cheney walk the plank.
Comment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 12:11 pm”
Right, but they forced Nixon because Impeachment was moving forward and the evidence was undisputible…..
The same needs to be done NOW!!!!!
There is MORE than enough evidence to convict….. If the Repubs want to stand by Bush when the evidence is made public, then let them but it would be their demise…..
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmNo, Dubya… what we are fatigued about is your import/export plan; we import 3600 body bags and coffins filled with REAL Americans and export over a half a trillion of OUR US dollars.
And I have to tell ya, Codpiece Commander Guy, that ain’t workin’ out too well for the rest of us REAL Americans!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmMore like “pissing away American lives in the middle of nowhere for nothing” fatigue.
George Bush doesn’t get that because George Bush doesn’t give a damn about his country.
Yeah, we knew that. We’re just running the clock out on this loser.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pm.
Which benchmarks, and how well were they met???
I can say that a benchmark for my newborn is to talk, and when he cries declare that this benchmark has been met because he made a sound….
Sorry, but this does not hold water YET!
Comment by RemoveBush
The benchmarks were established by congress, here is the report.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/07/12/final.benchmark.report.pdf
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmYou poor misguided fool…
It was BUSH who told us ALL to go shopping after 9/11…
Or don’t you remember events around that day?
Comment by Technodaoist — July 12, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Good one, he was only 12 years old; nice historical perspective.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmMore Bush wisdom on Americans’ feelings about Iraq:
“It’s hard for me, living in this beautiful White House, to give you an assessment.”
President Bush, on civil war in Iraq, February 14, 2007.
“They sacrifice peace of mind when they see the terrible images of violence on TV every night.”
President Bush on the war-time sacrifices of the American people, January 16, 2007.
“Death is terrible.”
President Bush, January 16, 2007.
“Death is terrible.”
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmPresident Bush, April 19, 2007.
The idiots over at redstate will NEVER suffer from war fatigue.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:14 pmasking why we have allowed Al-Qaeda and Osama to go scott- free
Because 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to this administration. They really, really need another one, so why should they go after Osama? That wouldn’t make sense from a Republican standpoint.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm.
Ah, but Flaco, remember that it was YOUR president who told us to go shopping in the name of Freedom and Liberty and America in the first place…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm“The benchmarks were established by congress, here is the report.
http://i.a.cnn.net/ cnn/ 2007/ images/ 07/ 12/ final.benchmark.report.pdf
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:14 pm”
I know……
Which ones have been met and how well were they met????
Are you that stupid, or are you just playing one on TP?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm#49 Flaco
Libs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Wow, that’s lamer than your usual lame stuff. Just phoning it in today?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pmThat’s not what he said.
8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ POLITICS/ 07/ 12/ us.iraq/ index.html
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
He said this:
“Of the 18 benchmarks Congress asked us to measure, we can report that satisfactory progress is being made in eight areas,” Bush said during a White House news conference.
“Progress” toward a benchmark does not equal “achieve.” Benchmarks are of a binary nature: you either achieve them or not. A water treatment plant that has made 90% progress toward operation still does not produce clean drinking water.
This sort of measure applies to his work in this country, too. A New Orleans levee that is 90% leakfree has shown progress, but it still FICKING LEAKS!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:16 pmLibs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Comment by Flaco — July 12, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
How’s that? It doesn’t even make sense. If you’re trying to insult us, you’re doing a damn poor job, kinda like that Vice President Bush of yours.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmAll of Bush’s presentations and public speaking forums make him sound like a third-grader–I really noticed this watching him in Cleveland yesterday. Is this because these topics are spoon-fed to him by Karl Rove in a manner a third-grader could understand? The man is without any depth or intellect . . . and you thought Reagan was stupid . . .
July 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmYes jjbear do your patriotic shopping and let the real men protect the rest of us.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:18 pmThere is a price for all things. There is a price for all of you to drive your cars, trucks and SUV’s. One of the costs is aproximately 45,000 lives from auto accidents every year. Another of the costs is aproximately 1,200 soldiers lives so that we can keep the oil flowing. And there are lives that are spent during the transportation and refining the oil. The total cost is about 55,000 lives so that you can keep driving whatever automobile you drive. And as long as you keep driving a car, then you are a part of this equation.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:18 pmWar Fatigue? That applies to our Armed Forces and Reserves who are being returned Iraq and Afghanistan again and again without adequate rest, protection, and support. I myself am sick of listening to Little G’s Bullshit, though I am not personally fatigued from fighting in somebody else’s civil war.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmImages of terrible violence are simple, undeniable reality. We won the war years ago, we lost the peace. What happens to any country when you kick out the government then disband the military and the police force? Add long simmering Sunni vs. Shia and clan vs. clan resentments, not forgetting the Kurds in this recipe and , voila! Insurgency delux. Chalk another sterling acomplishment up for George W. Its easy to make excuses. Its hard to face reality.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pm#53 Arthur C.
A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict.
Just keep up the steady drumbeat. Keep it in the news until they can’t say Bush or Cheney’s name anymore without the word “impeach” in the same sentence.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmA two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict. — Arthur C.
Yeah, all DA’s should follow this example.
No DA should ever bring a murderer or child molestor to trial unless he can determine that the jury pool with definately decide to convict with no chance of the charged criminal being aquitted.
We should just let them roam free and never bring charges because it would be a waste of time
what a concept.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmYa’ll are nuts!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pmYes jjbear do your patriotic shopping and let the real men protect the rest of us.
Comment by Flaco
Flaco – you troll.
Can’t stomach my post, so you ignore and make the same lame attack on someone else…
AGAIN – FOR YOU
BUSH WANTED US ALL TO GO SHOPPING AFTER 9/11
So you aren’t doing your duty, or you are a hypocrite – and I’m putting my money on BOTH.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pmThere is only one benchmark that matters; see Kucinich’s speech on the house floor on may 23 of this year. It’s the benchmark that puts into law big energy control of Iraqi oil for 30 years. Even some Democrats seem to support this benchmark.
If you want to know why we are in Iraq, just look up the Kucinich speech I cited.
Kent Conrad is ripping them a new one on the Senate florr right now!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pmAnother of the costs is aproximately 1,200 soldiers lives so that we can keep the oil flowing.
No, oil was flowing to us from Iraq right up to the beginning of the invasion. So it doesn’t take a single life to “keep the oil flowing” since it wasn’t stopping in the first place.
Nevermind how much the occupation’s failure to establish order has actually hurt the Iraqi oil industry. Far from “keeping the oil flowing,” the invasion has made it more difficult and, at times, lowered its production.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pm.
Yes jjbear do your patriotic shopping and let the real men protect the rest of us.
Comment by Flaco
REAL men!?! LOL. Don’t make me laugh. You mean real men like the ones who are too cowardly to actually go to war THEMSELVES or send their children over there?
Oh right I forgot about the neocon division of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists.
You people are a laughingstock.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmWhoopee! Billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and years later we have ALMOST HALF of the benchmark earning “C’sâ€â€¦ the rest – not so much.
“Satifactory†– ffft – way to use an arbitrary term to justify absolute failure.
Comment by Technodaoist
Actually 8 received unsatisfactory marks.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmIf George Bush wasn’t such a freakin’ cowardly piece of crap, he’s go out and mix freely with his citizens to find out what they’re thinking. If he did, he’s find out pretty damn quick that 70% of his citizens think he’s a lying, incompetent sack of shit.
But he won’t. George Bush is scared of his own citizens. How pathetic in that?
Comment by Arthur C
No president is able to mix freely with his citizens, and as for his cowardice—you’re wrong again. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing. You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmWe’re not waiting for Bush to say yes or no on Iraq. We know his demise and departure are imminent.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmal Qaeda has “rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since the summer of 2001.â€
——-That’s my favorite part.
In January, Bush claimed that Americans “sacrifice peace of mind when they see the terrible image of violence on TV every night,†—– With all due respect, Sir….What are YOU sacrificing?
adding that “the psychology of the country…is somewhat down because of this war.†—Yep, roughly 70% ‘down’
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmlet the real men protect the rest of us
Yes, only conservatives who whine about liberals, who are scared to death of feminists, and who are afraid of their own shadow when it comes to terrorism are “real men.” “Real men” like Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh.
Yep. Al Qaeda is quivering with fear at the thought of all you pudgy white entitlement tantrums who are the only “real men” in America.
Back to your enlargement pump, you feminized moron.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pm.
Flaco, there is not a real man in the entire Bush administration. Unless that was a relative statement to your sorry existence on this planet.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI know……
Which ones have been met and how well were they met????
Are you that stupid, or are you just playing one on TP?
Comment by RemoveBush
Read the report, are 27 pages too much for you?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmLet’s fact it, folks; our president is an idiot.
Comment by spit take
I faced that fact in 1999.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmThinkprogress.org Director of Surrender Monkeys, Zooey Fatone.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmBush’s utter cluelessness is nothing short of frightening.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmBULLSHIT FATIGUE.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmImpeachment needs to be put on the table…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pm#80 chimpeach: Just keep up the steady drumbeat.
I could not agree more. I just hope our side can refrain from demonizing Pelosi, which only strengthens the White House’s hand, and lay blame where it belongs, with Bush’s minions in Congress, which will move the country towards Bush’s eviction from the White House.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmYou hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less
I can make spurious , unfounded, irrational arguments too.
You like Bush because we hate Bush. How pathetic is that?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmWe have no idea what oil production in Iraq is because of
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 pma) The chaos
b)There is a pipeline that goes straight to Kuwait, built just after the invasion
c)The wells in Iraq, unlike every other oil-producing nation, have no meters on them.
Who can answer these questions?
How much oil is currently leaving Iraq?
Who is taking it out?
Where does the money for this oil go?
I do not know the answers, but would love to know.
Bush admits administration leaked CIA name
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19728346/
July 12th, 2007 at 12:25 pmComment by 20wordsor less
Uh, dickhead, I was saying the same thing when it was very unpopular to do so. And you’re right, it DOES take a tremendous amount of courage to stand against popular opinion.
So that makes you a flaming coward from 2002-2005. But the difference here is that nothing is going to vindicate you in the end like it did with us.
It’s over.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pmIt takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing.
“Do the right thing”? What, by making al Qaeda stronger? Bush isn’t standing against the tide, he’s an aristocrat who never gave a damn about ordinary Americans, especially the ones he’s sent to die. The only reason Bush won’t leave is because of his ego.
You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do
No, I despise Bush for the damage he’s done to my country. You’ll embrace him because you don’t give a damn about your country. Your ideology matters, nothing else. Why else would you embrace a manifest failure?
Bush has only failure to show for all he’s spent and killed. The only reason Republicans support that is because they put party ahead of country. Demographically and politically, America doesn’t look like the Republican party any more, so it’s no wonder they don’t mind throwing America away.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pm.
Thinkprogress.org Director of Surrender Monkeys, Zooey Fatone.
Comment by CT_V1
^===LAME
Entertain me already, you sad sad trolls! Can’t you come up with something better than re-used talking point insults?!?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pmLet us never forget what the great idiot George Bush once said, “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and niether do we.” Now everytime Bush tries to defend is failed Iraq policy, just remember what is daid at one of his $417 billion defense bill signings.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pm“Of the 18 benchmarks Congress asked us to measure, we can report that satisfactory progress is being made in eight areas,†Bush said during a White House news conference.
“Progress†toward a benchmark does not equal “achieve.†Benchmarks are of a binary nature: you either achieve them or not. A water treatment plant that has made 90% progress toward operation still does not produce clean drinking water.
This sort of measure applies to his work in this country, too. A New Orleans levee that is 90% leakfree has shown progress, but it still FICKING LEAKS!
Comment by Bienville
This is just a report on status. Showing progress is important to show that the military is working on achieving the benchmarks. We need to know where there are, not just wait until they are done.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pmRegardless of what you all say, i’m in loooove with our president. He’s dreamy eyed and I want to marry him and have his babies.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pm“Read the report, are 27 pages too much for you?
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:23 pm”
YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!
Which one of the BENCHMARKS have been met???????
Not WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:28 pm“8 out of 18 benchmarks being made…”
Only one problem with the statement: Bush went and moved the stakes on the gridiron so the benchmarks could be made, then Pretreus will move the goal posts back. The Bush policy on Iraq hasn’t changed, nor has the tactics.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pmIt’s a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective.
I wonder how many innocent men, women and children we have killed with our bombs..
Something else that really bothers me.
It just seems so convenient to label every single incident or ‘enemy’ as al Qaeda. Do they wear badges or name tags or something that identifies them as such? Every person they deem an enemy or who is carrying a gun or bomb gets placed in the al Qaeda category. After each battle, who decides and who identifies these guys as to what group the belong with? They can’t seem to keep track of anything else over there (the millions and billions of dollars), how do they manage that?
Seems deceptive to me, and misleading (and convenient) to keep being able to say it is al Qaeda in Iraq that we are fighting. There are a LOT of people and various factions who we are fighting and who are mad at us over there who want to cause us harm and damage – and who WANT US TO LEAVE! We broke their country and started a blood bath for God’s sake! We created the instability that they have to live in. They don’t have basic needs being met. They live every day in fear. They don’t have jobs or income and they don’t get the revenue from their own oil production. Every day, every week and every month seems to get even worse. I have no idea how many deaths are from each other and how many deaths we are responsible for. What a horrendous mess!
I can’t imagine what that must be like. How do we ever fix this if we just continue to label every person who retaliates, or is fighting to take control of their country, or who is battling an ancient sectarian foe, identify them as al Qaeda to justify us continuing on in this war which was based in the first place on lies and forged evidence? We started this spiral downward.
Us leaving will probably cause even more deaths, but nothing will stop that now. We put this horrible thing in motion. The will fight it out until they figure it out, until they get tired of the killing. Us staying there only postpones the inevitable and in the menatime we lose more soldiers every day this drags out. $12 Billion a month now!! Holy crap!! I heard someone speak yesterday on the Senate floor about the need for us to stand down so they WILL stand up. To me that says it all. We may not like the solution they find, but it IS their country. It is not our place to decide their future or their destiny. We have no business being there.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pmThis is all about empire building. It is wrong.
I smell troll droppings. whew!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 pm#61: So what? We’ve got smart people running him.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:30 pmYou hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less
i hate him because he is a liar and a war criminal. i hated him before it was popular, and I will hate him long after they stick that coward in the ground.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:31 pmEntertain me already, you sad sad trolls! Can’t you come up with something better than re-used talking point insults?!?
Comment by Technodaoist
The left’s talking-points template is too good to pass up, so I’ll continue to use that, leech-winger.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 pm#108: You’ve got to stand in line for that. He’s already got Laura (his political wife), Harriet (his work wife) and Condi (his playtime wife).
July 12th, 2007 at 12:33 pmRight On Wayne!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pmRighteous indignation.
Thanks to you and your family for serving our country.
No president is able to mix freely with his citizens, and as for his cowardice—you’re wrong again. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing. You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less — July 12, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
He mixed freely with Albanian citizens, as I recall. Why does he have this freedom in Tirana and not Washington?
And regarding your point about courage and popular opinion – I should remind you that this is still (for now) a democracy. Governing by the consent of the governed is not cowardice, it’s the fundamental principle underlying our Constitution.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pm#108 will be reported as a name-jacker. Let’s hope they ban you.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pm#117: Oops… sorry about that. I just came back from trolling a rightwing blog and was kind of stuck in that character. Just ignore that.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pm“8 out of 18 benchmarks”
Ok, let’s cut this sh*t out right now. There are a number of reasons why Bush should be eviscerated for his absolutely insane assertion that this is progress, but let’s just mention a few:
1. Qualitative metrics are worthless. Completely worthless. There is no math involved, there is no calculation, there is only success within the goals established under the conditions specified, or not. Since there are no conditions specified – other than the existence of other benchmarks – it is assumed that none of the benchmarks is achieved unless they all are. “The flag is still flying” is a pretty f*cking irrelevant goal if the building it was flying in front of has burned to the ground.
2. Not all of the benchmarks laid out are equal. For example, “Establishing supporting political, media, economic, and services committees in support of the Baghdad Security Plan” is probably important, but might not be as essential as, say… “Reducing the level of sectarian violence in Iraq and eliminating militia control of local security.” See? One is about establishing communication, the other is about thousands of people dying. Still feeling proud about your “8″?
3. There is no corresponding data to show that the “surge” has had anything to do with the success of any goals at all. In fact, it is equally arguable that the goals themselves would have been achieved back in 2005 if we had got the f*ck out of the country and let them do it themselves.
We could go on – and any semi-intelligent analytical body charged with the responsibility would – but let’s just leave it at this: Throwing sh*t at the fan from a different angle is not change.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pmReal Men? Let’s talk about a Real Man, shall we?
What would a Real Man do the moment he’s told America is under attack?
What? Sit there for another 7 (SEVEN!) minutes and continue reading to school children? That’s what a Real Man would do?
F*ck! ReichWingNuts have been punked and they’re too stupid to know it.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pm“Read the report, are 27 pages too much for you?
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:23 pmâ€
YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!
Which one of the BENCHMARKS have been met???????
Not WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush — July 12, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Allow me to clarify……
I read the report, but that is about as vague as Bush’s understanding of the English language…….
Like I said previously……
To say that it is “Satisfatory” when there is no details to the situation means NOTHING!!!
As I stated….. If I set a benchmark for my newborn to talk, this is vague….. As when he cries I can say the benchmark is “Satsifactory” since he made a noise no his way to being able to speak…..
Man now I see why you back this President, your as bright as he is. (Which is an IQ of about -10,0000)
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAnother of the costs is aproximately 1,200 soldiers lives so that we can keep the oil flowing.
What if the goal was not to keep the flow of oil going, but to DISRUPT the oil flow. That HAS happened. They can then control the price of oil because of the demand. When we started this war, the price of oil was like $22.00 a barrel. Yesterday I looked and it hit something like $73.00 a barrel. With the increase in price, they can squeeze money out of every single person in the country (and elsewhere) and literally make a killing.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmWhat happens if the carry this war into Iran and disrupt the oilflow there as well? Will the price of a barrel go up to $150.00 a barrel? More? Can you imagine the impact to our economy? Businesses? Every American? Where does all that money go? Corporations or is it a handful of very powerful individuals?
YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!
Which one of the BENCHMARKS have been met???????
Not WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush
Read the report, the report states what received a satisfactory grade and gives detail. Seriously are you stupid or lazy, just read the report.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmHowdy CT!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmClearly, those knuckles are bruised from dragging on the ground.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmYou hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… How pathetic is that?
Comment by 20wordsor less
I can make spurious , unfounded, irrational arguments too.
You like Bush because we hate Bush. How pathetic is that?
Comment by Technodaoist
Are you the clueless, or did you actually go out of your way to miss the point? Arthur C made the spurious and unfounded argument by saying;
…But he won’t. George Bush is scared of his own citizens. How pathetic in that?
Comment by Arthur C
He accused Bush of being pathetic with a baseless argument, and I accused him of being pathetic by using the same baseless argumentation just to see if he was smart enough to the flaw in his logic. But you came along and proved that you’re not smart enough to get it either—That is pathetic.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmGreetings, Mr. GMU student who’s NOT majoring in Surrender Science!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmUMMMM….
Excuse me, but did all of you miss georgie just admitted to HIGH TREASON…?
Bush admits administration leaked CIA name
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19728346/
Oh nevermind.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmHey Zooey and the other regulars. Have you heard anything from Faiz? Are they finally getting their asses in gear and finally implementing a registration system? We are getting sick of the namejackers, too.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmOnly one problem with the statement: Bush went and moved the stakes on the gridiron so the benchmarks could be made, then Pretreus will move the goal posts back. The Bush policy on Iraq hasn’t changed, nor has the tactics.
Comment by MN Dem
Please explain how Bush moved the stakes.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmWait a sec here, I thought AQ was basically a non-existent threat, a supposed enemy kept alive by the Bush adminstration to keep America scared of muslims?
Additionally, who is grading this democrat-controlled congress? The Iraqi congress has gotten more done in the last six months than our own, if they had to live by their own benchmarks, we would have abandoned D.C. as a lost cause and retreated to Virginia.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmWar Fatigue Affecting Troll Psychology
________________________
TP Trolls Making Ever Less Sense;
July 12th, 2007 at 12:41 pmFull Meltdown Mode Coming?
He accused Bush of being pathetic with a baseless argument
It’s not baseless, he’s just paying attention and you aren’t. Bush lives in a bubble. He has to. When in his life has he ever shown guts? How many times has he bristled at non-groveling questions? He’s surrounded by yes-men because he’s an insecure little man.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:41 pm.
#130 – UMMMM….
Excuse me, but did all of you miss georgie just admitted to HIGH TREASON…?
Bush admits administration leaked CIA name
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19728346/
Oh nevermind.
And the punishment for traitors is? Ms Pelosi? Mr Reid? Anyone? Anyone at all? [silence]
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmReal Men? Let’s talk about a Real Man, shall we?
What would a Real Man do the moment he’s told America is under attack?
What? Sit there for another 7 (SEVEN!) minutes and continue reading to school children? That’s what a Real Man would do?
F*ck! ReichWingNuts have been punked and they’re too stupid to know it.
Comment by JesusChrist_GodOfWar
So tell me real man, what did you do when you learned that America was under attack?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmBush is clearly well aware of the concerns of the people.
They have war fatigue, that’s all.
A little Gatorade ™ and they’ll get back in the mood to go alkaida huntin’ in no time!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmHe’s surrounded by yes-men because he’s an insecure little man
Bush is totally out of touch with reality, and that’s why he’s the only President in history to lose two wars. He doesn’t have what it takes to win: regular contact with reality. He lives in Fantasyland.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:43 pmComment by The Troll Consortium
Actually, lefties make up just about all of the name-jackers on this page.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pm#140: Yeah, we know. In our opinion we’d all be better off with a simple registration system.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pmWAAAAAAAAAAH! REGISTRATION!
WAAAAAAAAAAH! RADIO DUHVERSITY!
WAAAAAAAAAAH! BUSH LIE I CRY!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAH!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 pmActually, lefties make up just about all of the name-jackers on this page.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
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100% true!!!
They are jealous of our original style, so they steal our names!
Pathetic.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:45 pmBush outdid himself this morning. He did not even have the decency or dignity to prepare himself with facts before addressing the press. Bush and his supporters — like Mitch McConnell — should be ashamed of themselves. But they have no shame.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pmIt takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand against the tide of popular opinion, and do the right thing. You hate Bush because it’s the popular thing to do… Dumbf*ck
Boy George had the support of the country and the rest of the world when we went into Afghanistan. When he diverted the effort to fight his personal Crusade in Iraq he lost both the country and the world. It was not the right thing to do. We knew it then and we know it now.
When I say we, I don’t include the “Bush is my God” trolls who will defend Bush at every step.
Bush’s shares a lot of characteristics with Son of Sam. A murdering psychotic who listens to the Jebus whispering in his ear telling him to kill someone.
But you pitiful whore trolls keep it up. As every day goes by, the onion of Bush supporters gets peeled back until there is nothing but the pus filled core of 20%ers remaining in one huge circle jerk.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pmIn our opinion we’d all be better off with a simple registration system.
Comment by The Troll Consortium — July 12, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
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I wouldn’t mind that at all, since it is the Lefties who steal names in the first place!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pmSo tell me real man, what did you do when you learned that America was under attack?
Uh, did you think you were addressing the president? Or, since he isn’t the president, are you just trying to change the subject?
Thought so.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pm.
What? Sit there for another 7 (SEVEN!) minutes and continue reading to school children? That’s what a Real Man would do?
F*ck! ReichWingNuts have been punked and they’re too stupid to know it.
No, a real man would educate himself about the standards of protection that will surround him and smartly decide not to run into the street while an attack on the nation is in progress until his Secret Service detail has more information and a plan. A dem would have stood up, peed his pants, fainted, been revived and immediately requested a croissant.
Or I suppose we could look to Senator Mark Dayton(D-MN) who was the ONLY senator to run home and hide under his bed.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pmI read the report, but that is about as vague as Bush’s understanding of the English language…….
Like I said previously……
To say that it is “Satisfatory†when there is no details to the situation means NOTHING!!!
As I stated….. If I set a benchmark for my newborn to talk, this is vague….. As when he cries I can say the benchmark is “Satsifactory†since he made a noise no his way to being able to speak…..
Man now I see why you back this President, your as bright as he is. (Which is an IQ of about -10,0000)
Comment by RemoveBush
Clearly you have comprehension issues. The report does give details on the status of benchmarks. You comparison to the war and your newborn talking is pretty weak. However, benchmarks can be established in regards to your child talking and progress can be shown. If he starts to form sounds like da and ma, then he begins saying dada or googoo, that would mean that he is progressing. To say crying would be a benchmark is ridiculous as babies cry from the day they are born.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:48 pmWhen was the last time Herr Bushco went out in THIS country, and just visited folks.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pmWithout preselecting them.
Just regular folks.
I can’t seem to recall, except for some bar he went to during campaign 2004…
If Bush thinks we’re fatigued, then what does he think our soldiers on their forth and fifth tours feel?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pmAll I want is for you people to accept me. Why won’t you accept me?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pmYou’re wrong.
Americans DO need psychology testing (over 60% of us are on anti-depressants)for having voted the buffoon into office twice and for their passive aggressive behavior when it comes to foreign relations.
And they also need an end to an unjustified foreign war, and security from international terrorism.
A pretty tall order to expect from G.W. Bush and his admin.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:49 pm#
Wait a sec here, I thought AQ was basically a non-existent threat, a supposed enemy kept alive by the Bush adminstration to keep America scared of muslims?
Additionally, who is grading this democrat-controlled congress? The Iraqi congress has gotten more done in the last six months than our own, if they had to live by their own benchmarks, we would have abandoned D.C. as a lost cause and retreated to Virginia.
Comment by Blackwater — July 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Not quite.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmAl-qaeda is a very real threat, although how they are financed is of some interest. We know how they got their initial training. They (CIA) even brought Osama to the USA for part of that training! So, they are a real threat, and as Democratic Senators have been saying all morning. And the policies of this administration have allowed them to flourish. Mr. Bush said he doesn’t care about Osama, or think that much about him. Yeah, except when he needs him. The point is, Iraq is a diversion, planned long before Bush was named President. The war in Iraq allowed al-qaeda to enter the country, and the threat from al-qaeda in Iraq can be dealt with by Iraqis. We need to let them take care of their own business, back off this Iran posturing, and go after the people who were responsible for 9/11. Thus far Bush has given them a pass. Support of Bush, is support of Osama and whoever is responsible for 9/11. Judge Bush by his actions or lack of, not the crap spewing out of his mouth. Can you spell failure?
Democrats will suffer low approval numbers as long as they refuse to do the will of the majority. Yes, the Democrats are a bunch of pussies. Let’s make them into tigers!
Yuck, I almost stepped in a pile of troll food.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmA dem would have stood up, peed his pants, fainted, been revived and immediately requested a croissant.
Just like on 1993?
Welcome back to the real world, dumbass.
Eighteen months later, the Clinton administration had tried, convicted, sentenced, and punished the entire WTC 1993 ring. All these years later, Osama is still out there, Bush still doesn’t give a crap, and conservatives are scared of their own shadow (which is why the go running to Big Daddy conservatism).
July 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pm.
I have feelings, you know.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:51 pmYou’re drinking the koolaid and I’m not. Surrounded by yes men? How dillusional can you be? The only time I’ve seen Bush bristle at questions is when a false premise is interjected along with the question. How would you like it? Here try this one on for size— Given the fact that modern day liberals are only concerned with overthrowing traditional and religious values, are you surprised by the sheer volume of anti conservative comments found on liberal blogs such as this?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:52 pmWhen was the last time Herr Bushco went out in THIS country, and just visited folks.
CNN reported that Bush is afraid to attend D.C. area eating establishments for fear he’ll be booed or otherwise confronted with his failures.
He’s askeered to.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:52 pmI remember when the last few times the democrat presidential nominee went out in public; he fell over on his snowboard and swore at his security detail, he dressed up in nylon and rode his $5000 bike, he hefted a shotgun over his shoulder then requested help on loading it, and he lifted his pinkie and delicately nibbled on a Philly cheesesteak sandwich (with swiss cheese).
Just a regular guy.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pmI think the definition of insanity is repeating the
same self-destructive act and expecting
a different outcome.
-Annie
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pmbush has ‘fact-fatigue’ and/or ‘reality-fatigue.’
July 12th, 2007 at 12:53 pmHe’s askeered to.
Comment by Arthur C.
Do you blame him? I bet if the service men and women had a few minutes with him alone and off the record, he may be a little concerned about that too.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:54 pmI remember when the last republican presidential nominee couldn’t answer straight questions about his military service and drug use.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:54 pmClearly, the people’s approval rating by the President is very low.
Lefties you are not acting in the best interests of the USA!!!
Stop being Surrender Monkeys!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:55 pmI remember when the last few times the democrat presidential nominee went out in public …
As opposed to a wussy president, who doesn’t dare.
Hell, half of life is just showing up. Too bad the dry-drunk president … can’t.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:55 pm.
Common Lefty college majors:
-Surrender Science
July 12th, 2007 at 12:55 pm-Sociology
-Chicano Studies
-Terrorism Administration
-Protestinology
-cont.
He accused Bush of being pathetic with a baseless argument
It’s not baseless, he’s just paying attention and you aren’t. Bush lives in a bubble. He has to. When in his life has he ever shown guts? How many times has he bristled at non-groveling questions? He’s surrounded by yes-men because he’s an insecure little man.
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Comment by Grand Moff Texan
You’re drinking the koolaid and I’m not. Surrounded by yes men? How dillusional can you be? The only time I’ve seen Bush bristle at questions is when a false premise is interjected along with the question. How would you like it? Here try this one on for size— Given the fact that modern day liberals are only concerned with overthrowing traditional and religious values, are you surprised by the sheer volume of anti conservative comments found on liberal blogs such as this?
Comment by 20wordsor less
July 12th, 2007 at 12:55 pmAll these years later, Osama is still out there, Bush still doesn’t give a crap, and conservatives are scared of their own shadow (which is why the go running to Big Daddy conservatism).
As if OBL suddenly appeared the day Bush first took the office of POTUS.
Why would be scared of our own shadow, the dems have told us that the terrorism threat is just a bumper sticker? (ht: Edwards).
Lay off the dope, your hippy days should have ended long ago.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI bet if the service men and women had a few minutes with him alone and off the record, he may be a little concerned about that too.
People going to Bush rallies in 2004 had to take oaths. That’s how paranoid Bush is.
If you selected any fifty servicemen at random and put Bush in a room with them, he’d never make it out alive.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:56 pm.
#108,#151,#156 – to be reported.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:58 pmCommon Lefty college majors:
You forgot GLBT Studies and Interpretive Whining.
July 12th, 2007 at 12:58 pmOh thank you, Mr. President. Now I know that this unbridled rage I feel at what you’ve done to this country I love, to America’s reputation with the rest of the world, and to the highest office in the land is just “war fatigue”.
Um…what’s the cure for that? Any ideas?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:58 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
You forgot:
Islamology
July 12th, 2007 at 12:58 pmRightwingers college major?
Bootlicking
…
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 pmSo if this war fatigue is just a psychological trauma, can I sue the executive branch of the federal government to cover my mental health care until the war is over?
Or should I put as much stock in it as President Bush’s psychiatric diagnosis of Saddam H., claiming that Saddam was a madman and therefore was necessarily lying about having WMDs (which was the time I realized this whole warmongering bit was a complete sham and that our nation was about to be led into, at best, a very high stakes shell game indistinguishable from “a land war in Asia”)?
I know, we can get a second opinion from Dr. Frist!
July 12th, 2007 at 12:59 pmDamn, I stepped into a steaming pile of troll food. Lick it off, bootlickers!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:00 pmI remember when the last republican presidential nominee couldn’t answer straight questions about his military service and drug use.
Has Kerry released his military records yet? No? What is he trying to hide?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:00 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
Common Lefty college majors:
Moral Relativity Ethics
July 12th, 2007 at 1:01 pmPhD in Abortions
Atheism Studies
Has Harriet Meiers released her bootlicking records yet? No? What is she trying to hide?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:02 pm#108,#151,#156 – to be reported.
Comment by CT_V1
mommy! ehh ehh ehh ehh they’re making fuuuuun of meeeee!
Just to make a point CT_V1, aren’t they from CT-V1?
Different name, isn’t it?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:02 pm“Clearly you have comprehension issues. The report does give details on the status of benchmarks. You comparison to the war and your newborn talking is pretty weak. However, benchmarks can be established in regards to your child talking and progress can be shown. If he starts to form sounds like da and ma, then he begins saying dada or googoo, that would mean that he is progressing. To say crying would be a benchmark is ridiculous as babies cry from the day they are born.
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 12:48 pm”
My comprehension is just fine….. I have a very technical and anylitical thought process, which is why I say what I say….
If you consider a 6 line paragraph as being WELL DEFINED, then I guess the 4th grade level of description is fine.
For me, I want more information as to how and why they were not met. To say that they are working on this or that benchmark WITHOUT any supporting evidence is BS!!!!
And as far as my analogy….. That is perfect for this situation…… Despite what YOU want to believe describing something in obscurity is the ISSUE here…….. What Bush has done is presented LITTLE TO NO evidence to support his words and wants everyone to believe him….
SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE to what he states in this report…. How much progress is made by the work…. What has the CRC specifically done to make progress??? How much of it’s goals have been made??? 1%, 5%, 50%, 70%?????
See….. For those that ACTUALLY THINK things like this are important!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:03 pmHelen Thomas said to Bush “We are the ones who brought Al Queda to Iraq” Chimpy smirked and totally went off on some other tangent about it was Saddam that decided on war, not him. What a pathetic excuse for a human being. Bush supporters- rot in hell!!! Your so blinded by your pathetic attempts to not be wrong that you fail to see your emperor has led us into a quagmire that cannot be won.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:04 pmAs if OBL suddenly appeared the day Bush first took the office of POTUS.
No, that’s not what I said.
Are there any other straw men you plan on hiding behind? Apparently, your answer is yes:
Why would be scared of our own shadow, the dems have told us that the terrorism threat is just a bumper sticker? (ht: Edwards).
Uh, no. He didn’t say anything like that. I guess you really are ignorant enough to still be a conservative.
So: who’s smoking what, moron? When will you have the guts to confront what either I or Edwards said? Since you’re a conservative, I’m guessing “never.”
July 12th, 2007 at 1:05 pm.
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
It’s name-jacked. You proclaim to want “trolls” gone, so I’ll have the fact emphasize that you loons are the ultimate trolls on your own turf.
Keep mouthin’, son.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:05 pmI have feelings, you know.
Comment by CT-V1
Oh my God! someone implied you have feeling! Now that is a damn lie!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:06 pmYou should report them.
Has Kerry released his military records yet? No?
Yes, in early June of 2005.
Next ignorant talking point, please.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:06 pm.
Yesterday CT-V1 shared with us a touching story from his past when his Mom would sell her services to make ends meet. Poor little CT-V1 would have to clean her up for the next customer. He didn’t mind it except when she let them use the alternative orifice, and he says he didn’t like the taste.
I thought it was rather touching, and explained some of the psychotic posts. Are you going to tell us that was name jacking too CT?
And leave the psychosis unexplained?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:07 pmCT_V1,
July 12th, 2007 at 1:07 pmwillyloman IS the NAMEJACKER!!!
Has Kerry released his military records yet? No?
Has Bush told us why he went AWOL? No? Why not, what’s he got to hide?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 pmIt’s name-jacked. You proclaim to want “trolls†gone, so I’ll have the fact emphasize that you loons are the ultimate trolls on your own turf.
Keep mouthin’, son.
Comment by CT_V1
It’s not name jacked you stupid little ignorant faggot! IT’S A DIFFERENT NAME IDIOT!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 pmGood additions, Mr. President.
Here’s another: Clintomatics, minor in hyperactivity.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 pmYeah, that republican nominee just couldn’t answer simple questions like “Have you ever used cocaine?” It has been asked of him many times but never a straight answer.
There’s still $10,000 reward for any out there that can positively place GW in the reserve units he says he was in at the time. That’s ten grand to bolster Bush’s claim of being accounted for. No takers yet.
blackwater, you want to slander all but can’t look at who you support. Your arguments are hollow.
Kerry is not our president, and neither is Clinton. It’s GWB and he is bad for this country.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 pmMy question is when will Bush get fatigued by sending Americans to die in that hellhole?
I predict the answer is somewhere between never and ever.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:08 pmIt’s not name jacked you stupid little ignorant faggot! IT’S A DIFFERENT NAME IDIOT!
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
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“Progressive” indeed.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:09 pmComment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
GAY BASHER!
COULTER WANNABE!
GAY BASHER!
Enjoying your free pass?
Anyhow, son, TP deleted a previous post with those same initials when reported it on a previous thread.
Shaataap, son.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:11 pm“Progressive†indeed.
Same old crap. Same copy and paste comebacks. never an original thought in your tired little brain.
No wonder you are in the bottom 26%.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:11 pmIt’s not name jacked you stupid little ignorant faggot! IT’S A DIFFERENT NAME IDIOT!
Comment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
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Wow. bigotry.
“Progressive” indeed.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:13 pmMr. President’s name was also jacked on #108, which was also reported.
You’re suspected, Willyloonieman.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:13 pmComment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, how cute!!!! The presnit has a new name… A self-aggrandizing fool attempts to dethrone Elvis… only on TP
July 12th, 2007 at 1:13 pmI’m sorry Willy. I got rode hard last night, and my man-hole hurts.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:13 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
I’ve already busted willyloman, HE IS THE ONE!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:14 pmOk, this has devolved quick.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:15 pmComment by willyloman — July 12, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
Violation: use of the word “faggot”
Recommended course of action: Rehab, Inpatient.
It only proves, willy, that your party could care less about “gay rights,” only cares to use it as a beneficial talking point.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:17 pmYOUR AN IDIOT!!!!
Which one of the BENCHMARKS have been met???????
Not WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush — July 12, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Ok, I looked it up in the Benchmark Report. Here are the benchmarks that have supposedly been met, with my commentary. Essentially, Iraq has successfully formed a lot of committees:
Forming a Constitutional Review Committee and then completing the constitutional review.
- Committee formed. Review, not so much. They’re asking for more time.
Enacting and implementing legislation on procedures to form semi-autonomous regions.
- This benchmark was achieved before it was written – it’s based on passage of a 2006 law that doesn’t go into effect until April 2008.
Enacting and implementing legislation establishing an Independent High Electoral Commission, provincial elections law, provincial council authorities, and a date for provincial elections.
- Commission formed. Laws, PCAs, and election date not done.
Establishing supporting political, media, economic, and services committees in support of the Baghdad Security Plan.
- Committees established.
Providing three trained and ready Iraqi brigades to support Baghdad operations.
- “the Iraqi Government has provided the equivalent of three additional brigades to Baghdad.” What is the “equivalent” of a brigade? Blackwater contractors? Do they have Shi’ite death squads who are calling themselves a brigade? Maybe they’ve formed three brigade committees – that’s sort of equivalent to a brigade, right?
Ensuring that, as Prime Minister Maliki was quoted by President Bush as saying, “the Baghdad Security Plan will not provide a safe haven for any outlaws, regardless of [their] sectarian or political affiliation.â€
- “United States commanders report overall satisfaction with their ability to target any and all extremist groups.” Well, that’s nice. The GOI is no longer favoring certain militias. If this is indeed the case, that’s a satisfactory benchmark.
Reducing the level of sectarian violence in Iraq and eliminating militia control of local security.
- The report claims that the level of sectarian violence has been reduced. Right. It went down slightly in June as compared to May, which was described as the bloodiest month in Iraq since 2004. This proves that if you set your baseline right, you can achieve any benchmark!
Establishing all of the planned joint security stations in neighborhoods across Baghdad.
- 32 Joint Security Stations and 36 command outposts out of 90 planned are at at least initial operational capability.
Ensuring that the rights of minority political parties in the Iraqi legislature are protected.
- “Minority political parties in the Council of Representatives (COR) participate in COR activities in a manner consistent with minority parties in other parliamentary democracies. Women COR members work closely with each other, often across party lines.”
Allocating and spending $10 billion in Iraqi revenues for reconstruction projects, including delivery of essential services, on an equitable basis.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:17 pm- The ministry of Finance has moved 21% of the 2007 budget to Iraq’s ministries. Welll done – at this rate they’ll have distributed the entire 2007 budget by mid-2009!
These dumbass trolls don’t give a shit about a lying, incompetent chief executive. But boy oh boy, disturb their trolling and they get apoplectic!
You snot-brained blowhards are a hoot!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:19 pmThe only thing it proves CT is that he doesn’t like you. That’s all. The rest is your own projection.
Sheeesh your sensitive.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:19 pmAs if OBL suddenly appeared the day Bush first took the office of POTUS.
Comment by Blackwater — July 12, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
As my previous comment made clear, the President said he doesn’t care about bin Laden, but when his Iraq fiasco is being questioned, he does not hesitate to invoke him. Address my previous post, or are you out of talking points. Why are we in Iraq while Osama is as free, or freer, than you and me. Who’s side are you on or do you just like to jerk people around to score your partisan points. This is a matter of national security, not blaming Clinton and absolving Bush. He is not going after the real terrorists, Al qaeda in Iraq is not the problem, but al qaeda in general may be. Why isn’t he fulfilling his promise to ’smoke em out, and bring em back, dead or alive’? It’s the oil stupid!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:20 pmComments by CT and the presnut
Wow, you busted a namejacker (or you think you did). You guys are great! How about we set you up with a reality-based TV show?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:21 pm177. Has Kerry released his military records yet? No? What is he trying to hide?
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Kerry released his war records in June 2005.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:21 pmI’ve reported the reporting of name jacking because it’s just not fair that people I disagree with are allowed to spew their ignorance. Not like conservative blogs that wouldn’t allow you to say boo about progressive ideas.
Those poor people that are name jacked. Their insecurities must be busting out of the closet.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:21 pmI believe we have reached a turning point in Iraq. As more and more Republicans in congress express doubts and concerns about the course of the war we get closer each day to ending this disaster.
VIDEO – olympia snowe on Hardball
http://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=89837bc0-2422-4546-8a35-929909f2f9f1
VIDEO – more republicans break ranks on Iraq
July 12th, 2007 at 1:24 pmhttp://beta.redlasso.com/Community/ClipPlayer.aspx?i=320302f3-8a23-4c0c-8972-b3d43000ec7f
“Comment by toasterhead — July 12, 2007 @ 1:17 pm”
Thanks toasterhead, but I read it too!
The point I was making is that the quallification that the benchmarks have been made is NOT evident in the report.
It’s so vague that if they didn’t stub their tow for the month this could be claimed as progress since this injury did not occur!!!!
dave, just can’t get it….. You did nicely summerize the report, but my point still stands…. There are no real indicators as to what was really met. How much of the benchmark did the meet?
By dave’s criteria, just having a 0.1% completion of the benchmark is a “Success”!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:24 pmhttp://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3
c-span 3 on Cheney’s creation of new “secret” classification investigation.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:25 pmTalk about feelings of entitlement! These nutsack trolls think that they have exclusive claim to every variant of their selected nicks? LOL!
Trolls: “Waaaaaaaaah!”
Deal with it, crybabies.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:25 pmThe only thing it proves CT is that he doesn’t like you. That’s all. The rest is your own projection.
Sheeesh your sensitive.
Comment by hellinabucket — July 12, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
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Not so.
It proves that willyloman is a bigot and a hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is also a name-jacker and a surrender monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:25 pmComment by hellinabucket — July 12, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Awww…he doesn’t likee.
What is there to prove to a snot-head libetroll? Did I come here to make friends with you slime?
You name-jack, you’ll get booted. Want the trolls gone? Hey, you asked for it. (Hint: it isn’t Mr. President, CT_V1, etc.)
More popular lefty college majors:
-Spin Science
-Libetrolling Studies
-Professional Victomology
I didn’t know that name-jacking was “projection.” That word doesn’t mean what you think it means.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:26 pmDid I come here to make friends with you slime?
No, you came here to shit on the desk.
Shove it, crybaby.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:28 pmComment by hellinabucket — July 12, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Your buddy used the lefties’ condemned word, “faggot,” by the way.
Plan on giving him the Ann Coulter treatment?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:28 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
More popular lefty college majors:
MuslimShitology
July 12th, 2007 at 1:29 pmLet’s get back on topic.
Bush is an idiot!
Prove me wrong trolls – oh wait the trolls don’t know the definition of a troll. uugggh
July 12th, 2007 at 1:29 pmComment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
Eat the sh*t, surrender monkey.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:29 pmLet’s all wait for the FINAL report on September 15th.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/07/september-15th-is-still-day-to-remember.html#links
July 12th, 2007 at 1:31 pmdave, just can’t get it….. You did nicely summerize the report, but my point still stands…. There are no real indicators as to what was really met. How much of the benchmark did the meet?
By dave’s criteria, just having a 0.1% completion of the benchmark is a “Successâ€!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush — July 12, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
My point exactly – most of the benchmarks are very vague, and the bar for success haphazardly set. To me, forming a committee to establish provincial election law is really not an indicator of success. It’s process, not progress. It’s a step in the right direction, with the actual substantive work yet to be done. It’s like saying you’ve made progress in running a marathon because you finished tying your shoes.
Out of this list, there are maybe three that I’d consider real concrete indicators of progress, and a whole lot that are indicators only of process.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:31 pmAny trolls currently on my patented Not To Ignore List actually want to discuss the topic of the thread???
Yeah, I didn’t think so.
Thanks for the derailment!
My I offer one, itty bitty tiny suggestion?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:32 pmGet a girlfriend, for the LUV OF GAWD!
Shove it, crybaby.
Comment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
Uhhh, this website is crybaby.org. We’re the “trolls” (dissenters) of the apparent whining theme.
You will be called out and held to account, buddy. Shut it, son.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:33 pmProve me wrong trolls – oh wait the trolls don’t know the definition of a troll. uugggh
Comment by reality check — July 12, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
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Lefties don’t know what the word “is” means!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:33 pmLibs are tired of the war because it cuts into their shopping time at the mall.
Comment by Flaco — July 12, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Actually, after 9/11, I told everyone to go shopping—especially in Florida– because Jeb’s state needed the money.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:34 pmDid I come here to make friends with you slime?
No, you came here to show the world how craven and ignorant you’d have to be to still be a conservative after all these years of failure.
Thank you. You make things so much easier.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:34 pm.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
At TP,
“troll” = Correct!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:34 pmWow what a drama… Will the weak-willed puppets of the darkness (AKA trolls) vanquish the “Surrender Monkeys”? Remember, the ranks of the SMs are swelling as we speak… Stay tuned!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:34 pmEat the sh*t, surrender monkey.
You destest having it pointed out that you came here to shit on the podium, and have never, ever had something meaningful to contribute.
You are a loser. I reckon that you hate your life, so you post lame drivel in the hopes of making others feel bad too. In fact, all it ends up doing is confirming in public that yer a self-loathing, authoritary-loving jackass, and it bothers you that I have the gall to point out this fact.
Tough shit, Jughead.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:35 pmLefties don’t know what the word “is†means!
No, we can just tell when some rightwing hack lawyer changes “was” to “is” to alter a quote.
See? Another ignorant talking point from another ignorant conservative. It was less than ten years ago, and you don’t even know what happened!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:35 pm.
Righty college major:
Bush are smart – sixth year course
July 12th, 2007 at 1:36 pmMaking your own reality – introduction course
Making your own reality – re-introduction course
Making your own reality – 6 month course at Bush library
Bush are never wrong – first year course
God is Bush – life long course.
Righty college majors:
Remedial Math
July 12th, 2007 at 1:39 pmRemedial English
Remedial Writing
Remedial History
Remedial Civics
Remedial Critical Thinking
Remedial Asswiping
I HATE YOU MORE TODAY THAN YESTERDAY
Apologies to: Spiral Starecase
I don’t remember what day it was
I didn’t notice what time it was
All I know is that I really began to hate you
And if all my dreams come true
The House will impeach you
Every day’s a new day of feeling blue
With each day comes a new way of doubting you
Every time you’re on TV my mind starts to wander
And if all my dreams come true
The Senate will convict you
Oh, I hate you more today than yesterday
But not as much as tomorrow
I hate you more today than yesterday
But, W, not as much as tomorrow
And if all my dreams come true
July 12th, 2007 at 1:39 pmThe Hague will indict you
Prove me wrong trolls – oh wait the trolls don’t know the definition of a troll. uugggh
Comment by reality check — July 12, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
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Lefties don’t know what the word “is†means!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — July 12, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Excuse me dickwad, I am a righty and damn proud of it. You and other trolls give righties a bad name and are not worthy of advancing the agenda of the right!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:40 pmCT, you have something to add to any discussion then write it out. Otherwise you are just engaging in digital masturbation and self amusement.
Care to discuss the flip flopping GW has made on any variety of issues regarding the conflict in Iraq and I’m in. But to piss on others and then get mad when others piss on you is self inflicting.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:40 pmComment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Typical lefty projection.
Correct your various mistakes and resubmit the assignment, lefty.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:40 pmComment by Grand Moff Texan — July 12, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
READ:
Slick Willy doin’ some weaseling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and
YOU are 100% WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:40 pm“That’s just the nature of democracy. Sometimes pure politics enters into the rhetoric.” (August 8,2003)
July 12th, 2007 at 1:41 pmJust listening to this IDIOT makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:42 pmComment by reality check — July 12, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
This one is grandstanding. You’re no righty.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWhy do rightwingers crave authoritarian “daddy” figures to lead them, and follow them with such blind obsequiousness? What are they so afraid of?
July 12th, 2007 at 1:42 pmThis thread is NOT about whether or not someone got a bj ten years ago.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:43 pm“It’s affecting our psychology.” He can’t even speak correctly for crying out loud! I feel stupider every time I’m unfortunate enough to hear him speak!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:44 pmComment by hellinabucket — July 12, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
Name-jacking is a top violation of the TOS. This is a perfectly good issue to raise, so you don’t have to pretend it’s a waste of time simply because it’s directed towards your concurring buddies.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:45 pmI will ask one more time, and I will patiently wait for a response (but by no means am I holding my breath)
Those that have derailed the thread, would you actually care to discuss the topic?
Or would you rather polish your bishop at the response you’re getting, all the while typing with the other hand?
Just curious
July 12th, 2007 at 1:45 pmProve me wrong trolls – oh wait the trolls don’t know the definition of a troll. uugggh
Comment by reality check — July 12, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
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Lefties don’t know what the word “is†means!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — July 12, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Excuse me dickwad, I am a righty and damn proud of it. You and other trolls give righties a bad name and are not worthy of advancing the agenda of the right!
Comment by reality check — July 12, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
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No, excuse me dickwad, I am not a righty and I don’t really give a shit. You and other idiots give a bad name to the US of A!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pm“Libetrolling Studies, Surrender Science”…
Oh, I am in tears of laughter at the hilarious and extraordinary sharpness of wit. It is as if Oscar Wilde himself had been reincarnated.
It feels like I lost 30 IQ points just by having all that infantile diatribe projected onto my retinas.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pmComment by DRxJ — July 12, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Bush is clearly well aware of the concerns of the people.
They have war fatigue, that’s all.
A little Gatorade ™ and they’ll get back in the mood to go alkaida huntin’ in no time!
Comment by THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — July 12, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
July 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pm“See, in my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda.”
July 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pmThose that have derailed the thread, would you actually care to discuss the topic?
Or would you rather polish your bishop at the response you’re getting, all the while typing with the other hand?
Just curious
Comment by DRxJ — July 12, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Yes, yes I would. I’ve been trying.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:48 pmTHE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!! is a Metaprogressive ™.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pmI have four questions that need to be answered, especially from our What is “war fatique”? How does it relate to the psychology of the American people? How could our Preznut, who never served, “understand that”? If this is a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective, is our Preznut talking about the insurgents of Iraq, or our war-happy government who mislead us into this occupation?
Bonus Question:
where any innocent Iraqi men, women, and children killed to achieve a political gain?
Thank you
July 12th, 2007 at 1:54 pmYes, yes I would. I’ve been trying.
Comment by toasterhead — July 12, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
See? Right there! That is funny!
July 12th, 2007 at 1:57 pmCT-V1, I am so sorry that I dissed you. It was really my Mom that spread her cheeks to make ends meet. I also apologize for my defeatist attitude.
July 12th, 2007 at 1:58 pmand from my many grammatical errors in post #255, it may appear that I am also “polishing the bishop” while typing. I can assure you, I’m at work, so that is definetly not a possiblity. I refuse to answer, tho, late tonight after the wife goes to bed!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:00 pmHeh
One of the benchmarks that the Iraqi government is supposed to agree to is to give up to 80% of their oil revenues to the big oil corporations. Strangely, the Iraqi people are against this. Strangely, Bush’s oil buddies are in favor of this. This is something that even the “liberal” CNN will not mention.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:00 pmOk, CT_V1, you can f*ck off now. You can’t have it both ways, first piss and moan about name-jacking then pull a name-jack of your own.
You piss soaked trolls (about three of you it appears) need to come to grips with your authority psychosis.
Get some help, and STFU.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:02 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 12, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
As you wish, dimbulb:
To CT-V1: You detest my pointing out that you came here to shit on the podium, and have never, ever had something meaningful to contribute.
You are a loser. Obviously, you hate your life, so you post lame drivel in the hopes of making others feel bad too. In fact, it ends up confirming, in public, that yer a self-loathing, authority-loving jackass, What bothers you that I have the gall to point out this fact.
Tough shit, Jethro.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:07 pmYou piss soaked trolls (about three of you it appears) need to come to grips with your authority psychosis.
Comment by nanlichi — July 12, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
It’s three college roomates in a circle jerk… they send out for pizza, their meth dealer delivers… they can stay in their little bubble and bluster for days… don’t you wish your life could be so fraught with excitement and adventure
July 12th, 2007 at 2:09 pmComment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
Still wrong, sir. Entirely wrong.
I recommend that you pull up the K-12 ‘Standards of Learning’ charts according to your state.
Sorry, windbag.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:22 pmOk, CT_V1, you can f*ck off now. You can’t have it both ways, first piss and moan about name-jacking then pull a name-jack of your own.
You piss soaked trolls (about three of you it appears) need to come to grips with your authority psychosis.
Get some help, and STFU.
Comment by nanlichi — July 12, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
I don’t name-jack. Clearly, the majority of name-jackers on this page are lefties in their own home.
If I’m piss-soaked, I can take a shower. It’s a step above you, however, because you eat Muslim s*it.
STFU (^3). If you name-jack, you should be banned. Your nutty ideology shouldn’t exempt you.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:27 pmAre you writing this from Iraq? If not, when are you slated to go?
I am tired because I don’t recognize the country I LOVE. I am tired because I care so much. I am tired because every day I walk around and see EVERYONE doing business as usual and don’t give a damn that our soldiers are fighting ALL DAY EVERY DAY. I am tired of not being heard.
I am a “Lib” and have been for many years, but I have served on the front lines in Iraq. Tell me how it is when you get back. Until then, you don’t have any idea why I am tired.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:28 pmEntirely wrong.
I hate to break it to you, blockhead, but your saying “wrong” doesn’t make it so. My assessment of your f*cked-up narcissistic, sociopathic personality deficiencies is spot-on. The proof is in your actions, not what yopu say, and your record of non-stop hate-filled screeching (and nothing but screeching) speaks for itself.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pm“Comment by DanCaveman — July 12, 2007 @ 2:28 pm”
Thanks for serving!!!!
From one Vet to another….
July 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pmWe don’t have to put up with this crap. Let’s just have a quick and easy impeachment of both Bush and Cheney. It will only take a month, tops.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:32 pmWe don’t have to turn it into a Greek Tragedy, just make it a business decision by the People. Provided we can get 17 to 18 Republican Senators to agree to it, we should go forward. Impeachment should not be a big deal; if Presidents routinely break the laws, they should be routinely impeached.
Are you writing this from Iraq? If not, when are you slated to go?
I am tired because I don’t recognize the country I LOVE. I am tired because I care so much. I am tired because every day I walk around and see EVERYONE doing business as usual and don’t give a damn that our soldiers are fighting ALL DAY EVERY DAY. I am tired of not being heard.
I am a “Lib†and have been for many years, but I have served on the front lines in Iraq. Tell me how it is when you get back. Until then, you don’t have any idea why I am tired.
Comment by DanCaveman
Well done, DanCaveman. Thank you for your service, and I’m glad you are out of harm’s way.
I apologize for the state of this thread. I believe it is indicative of the mind set that sent you to Iraq in the first place.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:33 pmI hate to break it to you, blockhead, but your saying “wrong†doesn’t make it so. My assessment of your f*cked-up narcissistic, sociopathic personality deficiencies is spot-on. The proof is in your actions, not what you say, and your record of non-stop hate-filled screeching (and nothing but screeching) speaks for itself.
Comment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
Simple, concise, irrefutable…
July 12th, 2007 at 2:33 pmDanCaveman!
thank you! for having served, and for what you are now doing!
A TRUE PATRIOT, indeed!
(ps, don’t expect a response from our trolls du jour. they hate facts, and they especially hate the “if you love the war so gawd dam much, sign up” rebuttal. they prefer the comfort and safety of their keyboards while “talking” tough!)
July 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmThanks, DanCaveman.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:40 pmRight On Wayne!
Righteous indignation.
Thanks to you and your family for serving our country.
Comment by funky p
July 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pm———————————————————
Wayne has kill innocent Iraqis 650,000 to be exact.
Give him a medal for invading a sovereign nation in an illegal war.
You are a war criminal along with BushCo !
Thanks for speaking out DanCaveman and thanks for your service.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:48 pm#113
Right On Wayne!
Righteous indignation.
Thanks to you and your family for serving our country.
Comment by funky p
July 12th, 2007 at 2:53 pm———————————————————
Wayne has kill innocent Iraqis 650,000 to be exact.
Give him a medal for invading a sovereign nation in an illegal war.
You are a war criminal along with BushCo !
Hey Flaccido, DanCaveman’s post was directed at you!
July 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmCare to respond, or will you cowardly shy away like normal.
It’s three college roomates in a circle jerk… they send out for pizza, their meth dealer delivers… they can stay in their little bubble and bluster for days… don’t you wish your life could be so fraught with excitement and adventure
Comment by !!!!!!!!!!
Well it’s close to true. Only they don’t have dorms at junior colleges. These three share a room at the Motel 6 and post naked from one full size bed.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:02 pmAnd since they all try to be just like their idol, KKKarl Rove, they’re fat, pasty and balding even thought they’re in their early twenties. They should take a picture of themselves while posting and eating their regular diet of pork rinds and Yoohoo because people would pay millions to not see it.
I hate to break it to you, blockhead, but your saying “wrong†doesn’t make it so. My assessment of your f*cked-up narcissistic, sociopathic personality deficiencies is spot-on. The proof is in your actions, not what you say, and your record of non-stop hate-filled screeching (and nothing but screeching) speaks for itself.
Comment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
Surrender Monkey, you’re dreaming. Please try to stay awake at least 3 hours per day.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:02 pmIf you name-jack, you should be banned. Your nutty ideology shouldn’t exempt you.
Comment by CT_V1
What a sad excuse for a human being. You make the right wing look worse that we ever could. Keep posting away, loser.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pmThis is an ugly war. It’s a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective.”
Ha. Takes one to know one, doesn’t it?
July 12th, 2007 at 3:05 pmIn a previous post, I asked four pertinent questions that relate to the topic of this thread.
So far the Bush luvers, all 3 of em, have failed to respond. I will ask again, and this time, it goes directly to Flaco and CT_V1:
What is “war fatique� How does it relate to the psychology of the American people? How could our Preznut, who never served, “understand that� If this is a war in which an enemy will kill innocent men, women and children in order to achieve a political objective, is our Preznut talking about the insurgents of Iraq, or our war-happy government who mislead us into this occupation?
C’mon now, you can answer them!
July 12th, 2007 at 3:06 pmComment by shane — July 12, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Until you’ve issued some hint of worthy substantiation in the “Bush Makes Girls Cry” thread – the one which you abruptly ran off – you have absolutely no credibility.
As repeated, put up or shut up.
STILL WAITING.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWayne is a BushCo war criminal.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:09 pmHe’s killed for Bush (illegal war) and needs to be punished for all the destruction he has caused the innocent Iraqi people.
What a sad excuse for a human being. You make the right wing look worse that we ever could. Keep posting away, loser.
Comment by shane — July 12, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Not a substantiated comment.
Put up or shut up.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:09 pmCT and any others of his ilk, answer the questions that DRxJ has posted twice now.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pmYour record of non-stop hate-filled screeching (and nothing but screeching) speaks for itself. — Comment by Arthur C.
Surrender Monkey [...] Please try to stay awake at least 3 hours per day. — Comment by CT_V1
Like I said, the proof is in your actions, snotbrain.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pmIronic, isn’t it shane, that I’ve posted questions, specifically at the derailing trolls, that have been ignored, all the while CT_V1 b*tches, moans and criticizes for being ignored.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmI know, let’s all go shopping. That will make us all forget about Iraq and be happy.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmNot a substantiated comment.
Like hell it isn’t. Like I said, you came here to shit on the podium, and have never, ever had something meaningful to contribute. All you’ve accomplished is making rightwingers out to be screechy, juvenile assh*les.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:14 pmOkay, gotta run, gotta see how my little girl is doing. Poor baby has to have a catheter to check on her bladder. Yikes, not a pleasent thing for a 4 year old. Luckily my work is only blocks from the hospital
July 12th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI’ll check back latter to see if the trolls responded with educated answers
Comment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Comment by DRxJ — July 12, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Please, both of you, quit pretending that you have some type of case. You’re both setting your own homes on fire.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:18 pmComment by DRxJ — July 12, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
There was no discussion I was carrying with you, Libetroll, so there’s no question I need to answer.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:19 pmBush’s new response to America:”…you guys are stupid, I’m smart…[Bush eats donuts]…)
July 12th, 2007 at 3:20 pm“A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict. Why impeach unless you can convict.”
Well, because if he is impeached, George won’t be able to hide behind executive privilege and he won’t be able to stop people from submitting to subpoenas. Even if he isn’t convicted impeachment will do to things. The first is to bring us closer to the truth about what they have been doing to our country and the second is it will show the voters how many lemming republics are still out there who don’t care if our government is destroyed as long as the bucks keep rolling in. It will also set Bush up for prosecution once he leaves office and he doesn’t have his Lemming Republics to protect him.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:22 pmComment by Arthur C. — July 12, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
MORE PROJECTION! KEEP IT UP!
Gunning for a TP gold medal?
And don’t intefere with my comments to other posters while you’re at it!
July 12th, 2007 at 3:22 pm‘war Fatigue’ !!
May be ‘Truth Fatigue.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:23 pmUntil you’ve issued some hint of worthy substantiation in the “Bush Makes Girls Cry†thread – the one which you abruptly ran off – you have absolutely no credibility.
As repeated, put up or shut up.
STILL WAITING.
Comment by CT_V1
Yaeah I ran off to take my daughter to music lessons and then to gymnastics. I HAVE A LIFE.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:27 pmNo Sir!!!!!
My Soldiers and I who have been on our 3rd, 4th, and 5th tours have War Fatigue!!!!
What I would like to see is Mr. Bush goes to one of his Repuppetcan love fest with all of his backers, donors, enablers, apologists etc. and says this:
“Ladies and Gentleman, there are no more troops to rotate, we have played the surge game too many times. Now is the time that I have to ask that all of you offer up YOUR children, grand-children, brother’s, sister’s, neices, nephews, family members to this the greatest threat in our lifetime, this war in Iraq. We must all now share the blood for our country”
I would hate to be the person thats guarding the doors for they would be crushed to death from the stampede out.
For those who continue to support the party and not the “troops” (whatever that means) I hope this comes to pass.
thank you
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the POTUS calls him comma #1462
July 12th, 2007 at 3:29 pmCT, you really just incite. You haven’t posted anything close to what the thread is about for some time now.
Please try and answer the questions that DRxJ has posed. Show your balls and stand up for what you believe instead of the sophmoric slander and dodge tactics.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:30 pmYikes, not a pleasent thing for a 4 year old. Luckily my work is only blocks from the hospital
I’ll check back latter to see if the trolls responded with educated answers
Comment by DRxJ
Ooh, hope your little girl is feeling better soon.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:30 pmComment by shane — July 12, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Nope, It’s not an excuse because of the abrupt timing.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:36 pmSomeone had asked a question up the blog (a lot) about what the specific benchmarks were and which were met. None of the benchmarks were met, since the question that the administration asked itself :
As measured from a January 2007 baseline, do we assess that the present trend data demonstrates a positive trajectory, which is tracking toward satisfactory accomplishment in the near term?
Here are the benchmarks with a simple Yes or No:
1. Forming a Constitutional Review Committee and then completing the constitutional review. Yes
2. Enacting and implementing legislation on de-Ba’athification reform. No
3. Enacting and implementing legislation to ensure the equitable distribution of hydrocarbon resources to the people of Iraq without regard to the sect or ethnicity of recipients, and enacting and implementing legislation to ensure that the energy resources of Iraq benefit Sunni Arabs, Shi’a Arabs, Kurds, and other Iraqi citizens in an equitable manner. No
4. Enacting and implementing legislation on procedures to form semi-autonomous regions. Yes
5. Enacting and implementing legislation establishing an Independent High Electoral Commission, provincial elections law, provincial council authorities, and a date for provincial elections. Yes and No, but mainly No.
6. Enacting and implementing legislation addressing amnesty. No
7. Enacting and implementing legislation establishing a strong militia disarmament program to ensure that such security forces are accountable only to the central government and loyal to the constitution of Iraq. No
8. Establishing supporting political, media, economic, and services committees in support of the Baghdad Security Plan. Yes
9. Providing three trained and ready Iraqi brigades to support Baghdad operations. Yes
10. Providing Iraqi commanders with all authorities to execute this plan and to make tactical and operational decisions in consultation with US Commanders without political intervention to include the authority to pursue all extremists including Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias. No
11. Ensuring that Iraqi Security Forces are providing even-handed enforcement of the law. No
12. Ensuring that, as Prime Minister Maliki was quoted by President Bush as saying, “the Baghdad Security Plan will not provide a safe haven for any outlaws, regardless of [their] sectarian or political affiliation.†Yes
13. Reducing the level of sectarian violence in Iraq and eliminating militia control of local security. Yes (with substantial Coalition assistance) to the first part, No to the second.
14. Establishing all of the planned joint security stations in neighborhoods across Baghdad. Yes (with substantial Coalition assistance)
15. Increasing the number of Iraqi security forces units capable of operating independently. No
16. Ensuring that the rights of minority political parties in the Iraqi legislature are protected. Yes
17. Allocating and spending $10 billion in Iraqi revenues for reconstruction projects, including delivery of essential services, on an equitable basis. Yes with the caveat (The Iraqi Government is making satisfactory progress in allocating funds to ministries and provinces, but even if the full $10 billion capital budget is allocated, spending units will not be able to spend all these funds by the end of 2007.)
18. Ensuring that Iraq’s political authorities are not undermining or making false accusations against members of the ISF. No
July 12th, 2007 at 3:41 pmComment by Tired Of Fighting — July 12, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
I wish Bush would have said something to that effect 2 years ago. Thanks for your service and I am humbled by your continued honoring of the fallen.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:41 pmIt’s amazing that someone who has never had to earn, work for, or sacrafice, for anything has the gaul to reference “battle fatigue.” Furthermore, I find it absolutely astonishing that this megalomaniac is still allowed to push forth his agenda without any type of serious opposition from congress or the senate. When are Americans going to wake up? The government DOES NOT have your best interest at heart. The government is nothing more than an extension of Time Warner, Phillip Morris, Accenture, CNA, etc.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:48 pmWhat a sad excuse for a human being. You make the right wing look worse that we ever could. Keep posting away, loser.
Comment by shane — July 12, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Amen.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:56 pmThere was no discussion I was carrying with you, Libetroll, so there’s no question I need to answer.
Comment by CT_V1
___________________________
So, with whom were you “carrying a discussion”?
July 12th, 2007 at 3:56 pmComment by Zooey
Amen.
God doesn’t like sociopathic crud using his language.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:59 pmGod doesn’t like sociopathic crud using his language.
Comment by CT_V1
So stop using it.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:01 pmSo, with whom were you “carrying a discussion�
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)
Is that a trick question?
Long time no see, PLC. :)
July 12th, 2007 at 4:02 pmAlcohol and cocaine affected Dubya’s brain…he is he goofiest bastard to ever darken the doors of the White House. It is time to remove this evil sob from our White House.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:15 pmGod doesn’t exist. He’s a figment of your tiny little imagination.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pmOff Topic Alert (but really, at this point, who cares as the antagonists have totally derailed the thread by avoiding the topic):
I see, upon my return, not one troll- a-rama could answer my questions. This, of course, comes as no surprise.
Secondly, my precious daughter did fine. I think I felt more pain watching her then what she actually experienced. She’s a brave trooper for just turning 4. On that note, the “pain” I felt just a little over a half an hour ago does not even remotely compare to the parents of over 3500 fallen soldiers. And who know how many thousands more who are suffering right now in rehab and hospitals all across the nation. And not to mention the horrific number of casualities over in Iraq. My heart and prayers go out to all those parents!
July 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pmSTOP THIS FRIGGIN’ OCCUPATION, NOW!!!!!!!
Agreed. Imperialism is terrible foreign policy strategy. Many tyrants that were stronger and smarter than Bush were unable to sustain it.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:26 pmZooey, The fact that you have to use name calling in your debate aresenal shows what true intellect your in command of.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:30 pmI have GW Bush Fatigue. Please allieviate that, Mr. President.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:11 pmZooey, The fact that you have to use name calling in your debate aresenal shows what true intellect your in command of.
Comment by Mr. Kaz
Hey, mind your own business.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:38 pmSo stop using it.
Comment by Zooey
Only quoting you, dolt.
Sociopath thinks she’s so clever…..
July 12th, 2007 at 6:13 pmNot just Americans but the whole world is suffering from” BUSHco FATIGUE”,which encompasses a shit load of factors orchestrated by the sickening criminals that should be hung on international media,which would go a long way to improving everything besides the U.S.’s ethical,moral,economic image and health.
July 12th, 2007 at 6:41 pmAmerican karma or “blowback ” has a very much longer way to go before anything will be getting better for anyone any time soon,thanks to all Bushco’s super rich friends and family that own and control a good portion of everything.
IMPEACH-PROSECUTE-EXECUTE would be a great start.
Losing your baby brother to an IED, like I did, tends to make one very, very tired.
July 12th, 2007 at 6:54 pmComment by Laura Linger — July 12, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
Laura, please accept my deepest sympathies for your loss.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:12 pmWar fatigue is a poor excuse for the gross incompetency we have seen Bush and Cheney display. This disaster of a war is their mess and no one else’s. The policy in Iraq is wrong. The policy has failed because it is flawed. He was told not to invade as sectarian strife would break out. He invaded anyway. He knew Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. He still continues to make that false claim. He still stands by his decision knowing that Saddam had no WMDs while he and his administration falsely claimed that he did.
He was told by both Gen. Casey and Lute among others that the surge would fail, he went ahead with it anyway. Even the Joint Chiefs of Staff came out against this surge, he still pushed for it and replaced Gen. Casey. Gen. Shinseki told him that the war would cost millions, he was fired. He has a history of not listening to good sound advice yet he continues to pursue a disastrous course.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:19 pmHis mind is a shame looking for a place to happen. Did all this happen after his female friend’s “suicide”?
July 12th, 2007 at 7:46 pmHe’s playing dumb. He always has because it works. He can look his blind grandmother in the face and tell her it’s clear to walk across the street but won’t hold her hand. This is about money and all sorts of backdoor *&#! that I dont even know, and he’s riding America into the ground for it.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:05 pmOnly quoting you, dolt.
Sociopath thinks she’s so clever…..
Comment by CT_V1
You quoted nothing by me.
You are lying. How does your god like that?
July 12th, 2007 at 8:10 pmIMPEACH George W. and prosecute Cheney NOW before they further ruin our great country!!!
“A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side.” – Aristotle
“When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the Flag… and carrying a Cross.” – Sinclair Lewis, 1935
“Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a Parliament, or a Communist dictatorship… The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.” –Hermann Goering (founder of Nazi Germany’s secret police, the Gestapo), 1945 at the Nuremberg Trials.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:14 pmPetition to impeach Bush:
http://zonow.com/33
July 12th, 2007 at 9:33 pmBefore 911 there were warning signals, people and circumstances that were out of place. Lets use the CEWB to gather our intel on false flag attempts against USA, as some of us are getting wind of something being up….
July 12th, 2007 at 9:48 pmI can sympathize with your frustration with the results of the war, after all not everything has worked out so well, but the reason the Dems haven’t done more than they have is because they know that we must stay the fight.
Its a shame that most of you that waved your little banners of “we will never forget” have now forgotten and wish to go back to the days of sticking you head in the sand and wishing it would all just be all right.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:47 amI’m suffering from a major case of BUSH FATIGUE!
July 13th, 2007 at 5:22 amComment by Zooey — July 12, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
Uhhh, “Amen” That’s whatcha said. If your sociocrapology teaches you to hate god, then don’t use his language.
Me thinks it’s not too tough to understand.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:08 am“Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a Parliament, or a Communist dictatorship… The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.†–Hermann Goering (founder of Nazi Germany’s secret police, the Gestapo), 1945 at the Nuremberg Trials.
Comment by Charles Alfonso — July 12, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
Powerful. These are PRECISELY the tactics continually employed by the WH and Bush’s sycophantic GOP Senate minions.
I’m mighily impressed with our President’s “read” on the opposition to this insane war he started: war fatique? Boy, he REALLY has his pulse on the nation, doesn’t he?
Nearly every day something similar escapes his lips that incontrovertibly proves how COMPLETELY out of touch these idiots are!
What mystifies me is how many Americans are STILL quite willing to buy into this guy’s schtick! We’re not talking sophisticated here, or even marginally smart! He’s like a REALLY BAD snake oil salesman. And that shrinking percentage of the electorate who continue to stand with him are clearly suffering from terminal gullibility! Defies reason.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:46 am8 of 18 benchmarks have received a satisfactory grade, looks like progress is being made.
Wow, and only 1535 days after “Mission Accomplished” !!!! That’s terrific news
July 13th, 2007 at 3:29 pmso when will someone kill this man who is responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths ?? One bullet
July 14th, 2007 at 12:10 pmWe had a revolution 200+ years ago to get rid of King George, do we have to have another to get rid of this one ?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:01 pmAs a republican I am so sick of this war that I can’t stand it. Bush won’t stop it so I ask, “Where are the Democrats? I thought you guys were going to change things once you got the majority. My party apparently isn’t doing anything but what about the Dems?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 am