Snow: Iraq Withdrawal Would Bring Terrorists ‘To A Shopping Mall Near You’
Snow: Iraq Withdrawal Would Bring Terrorists ‘To A Shopping Mall Near You’
Today on Fox News, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow defended the President’s Initial Benchmark Assessment Report, which argues that the administration is making “progress” in Iraq.
Snow attacked proposals to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq, claiming:
To walk out of Iraq right now would plant a seed that ultimately would lead to destabilization there, hundreds of thousands of deaths, loss of our influence in the region, would create instability throughout the Middle East throughout East Asia, throughout Europe. And sooner or later it would come to our shores, to a shopping mall near you.
Watch it:
But this doomsday scenario is already playing out in Iraq, worsened by the President’s misguided policies:
– Since Bush announced his surge in January, violence has skyrocketed. Close to 600 U.S. soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died since January. Military assessments suggest that “the U.S. military’s plan to secure Baghdad against a rising insurgency is falling far short of its goal.” A recent bombing killed over 150 in Baghdad, “one of the deadliest single bombings, if not the deadliest, since the 2003 invasion.”
– The war in Iraq has already destabilized the Middle East and exported terrorism throughout the world. “The rate of fatal terrorist attacks around the world by jihadist groups, and the number of people killed in those attacks, increased dramatically after the invasion of Iraq. Globally there was a 607 percent rise in the average yearly incidence of attacks.”
– The U.S. has already “lost influence” in the region. In a poll of 18 countries, the percentage of “saying that the United States is having a mainly positive influence in the world” dropped 11 points from two years ago, down to just 29 percent. Just 17 percent believe the United States is a stabilizing force in the Middle East.
Furthermore, national security experts recently called the possibility of terrorists following us home after leaving Iraq “remote at best.” Redeploying U.S. forces out of Iraq as quickly as possible would, in fact, enable the United States to better counter the global effects of Bush’s failed strategy.
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You better quit trying to get the troops out of Iraq or Dick Cheney is going to blow up a shopping mall?
July 12th, 2007 at 8:42 pmWe’re not buying it any more, guys.
Your scare tactics will not work anymore.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:43 pmWow never heard of anyone paying to give someone else a BJ. Now if I could just find some women like that.. j/k!!
Comment by God
The stupidity that comes out of these fools’ mouths is astonishing these days. Ah, I love the stench of Repub desperation in the morning!
July 12th, 2007 at 8:43 pmRight, because them “terrists” would hitch a ride back to the US.
If I recall correctly, the same type of doomsday scenario was given as a pretext not to withdraw from Vietnam.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:44 pmScrew up w/ copy and paste. My bad. Snow’s comment still defies belief.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:44 pmDemocrat Senator Caves in Funding for Cheney’s Office
I’m disgusted with all of them. Ready to go find a cave.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:44 pmwhat would it take to get tonybaloney to a shopping mall near me?
i’d love to have a little meet-and-greet with him
July 12th, 2007 at 8:45 pmSnow Job sez (emphasis mine):
The best lies have a dash of truth thrown in, just to make them go down a bit easier.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:45 pmThat’s presumably supposed to sound very scary indeed, considering that the shopping mall is precisely where we’ve all been encouraged to go and enjoy ourselves in this utter sham of a war.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:46 pm‘Be afraid folks! These crazy islamists are insane and want to kill you! But don’t be so scared that you change your self-indulgent and brainless consumerist lifestyle. Be just scared enough to vote for politicians who say they will protect you’
fear fear fear fear fear. Such propaganda. The politicians told us the communists would be taking over our cities if we left vietnam, and the we’d all be speaking german if we didn’t bomb civilians in germany, and on and on and on.
It’s time this country has a new focus. Instead of stirring up a hornet’s nest and angering people so much that they want to attack, why don’t we focus all those trillions (or much less) on a national DE-fense that can actually protect this country. We don’t have such a thing now, just OF-fense.
Some reading on this issue:
“National Defense vs. National Offense”
July 12th, 2007 at 8:46 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ national_defense_vs__national_offense
do doubt, with that $282 million burnin’ a hole in their pockets, that’s where i’d go too!
July 12th, 2007 at 8:47 pmOceans no longer protect us from our own intelligence services attacking our shopping malls.
AL-Qiada==ALL-CIADUH
July 12th, 2007 at 8:47 pmAL-Qiada==ALL-CIADUH
I am beginning to believe it.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:48 pmOlby has a Special Comment coming up in a few minutes concerning Chertoff’s “gut”.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:49 pmIraqi deaths dues to US invasion: ~970′000
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
But who’s counting?
At a shopping mall near you:
“Get your IEDs fresh! Special prices for Ramadan! Freshly imported from old Soviet stockpiles! Where is your veil, madam?”
July 12th, 2007 at 8:49 pmShort version of Tony Snow’s blather:
The Muslims are coming! The Muslims are coming!
(Of course, the 26%ers will believe every word he says, and the come here to pollute ever thread with their garbage)
July 12th, 2007 at 8:50 pmLeft Coast Mike sez:
9/11 Truth…it’s not just for moonbats anymore. ^_^
July 12th, 2007 at 8:51 pm“Democrat Senator Caves in Funding for Cheney’s Office”
It was bound to happen.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:51 pmOh God–they might make it as far as–as–ENGLAND!
We should do everything we can to keep that from ever happening!
July 12th, 2007 at 8:51 pm9/11 Truth…it’s not just for moonbats anymore. ^_^
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — July 12, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
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Yeah, it’s also for America-haters!
July 12th, 2007 at 8:52 pmMr. President sez:
I knew you trolls wouldn’t be able to resist that. Thanks again for being so darned predictable. ^_^
July 12th, 2007 at 8:54 pmWhere have we hear this before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_theory
July 12th, 2007 at 8:55 pmmy neighbor is a fairly evangelical christian who still supports george. she says this is the end of times, that God elected george to fulfill prophesy. i wonder how many christian ministers around the country are telling they congregations this?
July 12th, 2007 at 8:56 pm> Where have we hear this before
Damn Kissinger and his ouija board.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:56 pmThis is an old terror tactic used by the South African apartheid regime. At the time they were fighting wars in Angola, Namibia and Mozambique to hold back the “swaart gevaar’ - black danger. In other words, the blacks might someday take over our country.
If we don’t fight them in the bush, we will fight them in the suburbs, said PW Botha and Hendrik Verwoerd.
The GOP channeling the apartheid regime. Brought to you by BushCo.
And remember, Jack Abramoff made a movie using apartheid money. And Pat Robertson wanted to be the US ambassador to South Africa back in the bad old days.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:57 pmTo quote Bill Maher
Machiavelli, why don’t you sit this one out.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:57 pmAre Americans really buying these scare tactics anymore?
July 12th, 2007 at 8:57 pmHow ridiculous.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — July 12, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
We’re a team you set ‘em up, I’ll knock ‘em down!
July 12th, 2007 at 8:59 pmWow.. the disappearing comments at TP.
Man their commenting system and/or censorship is lame.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:59 pmLOL and the terrorist will have written instructions from Osama and Zawahiri!
Props to Reid today for
FINALLY
calling them out on not finding Osama and Zawahiri.
Finally
July 12th, 2007 at 8:59 pmQ: If a man with colon cancer provides a deliriously stupid hypothetical, where might one surmise his head has been?
July 12th, 2007 at 8:59 pm> my neighbor is a fairly evangelical christian who still supports george. she
> says this is the end of times, that God elected george to fulfill prophesy. i
> wonder how many christian ministers around the country are telling they
> congregations this?
Wouldn’t it be painful if tomorrow we were conquered by a galactic hegemony in
July 12th, 2007 at 8:59 pma 7-hour war, then enslaved for menial tasks? That would set all our clocks straight.
Those of you who’ve been around long enough must remember the dire warnings about pulling out of Vietnam over thirty years ago. The countries adjoining Vietnam would begin falling like dominoes to communism, and they would eventually invade the United States, forcing us to fight them here. I’m sure that the Viet Cong will be landing at Laguna Beach any day now.
Are we truly to believe that (assuming that the “official” version of events on 9/11 is true) had we already been in Iraq on 9/11, the 19 highjackers would have taken a detour to Iraq to fight our armed forces there instead of commandeering four commercial flights, armed only with boxcutters, leveling three skyscrapers in New York with two planes?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:01 pmMr President sez:
Well, you better get started then, “teammate”.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:01 pmsooner or later, they will come to a mall near us. it has nothing to do with withdrawal from iraq. bush insured we will be attacked by what he has done. he has increased the terrorist threat throughout the world and they are now stronger than ever. snow job, need to get another job. i am tired of these liars and bush is the leader. bush is not an america, he is a traitor and has destroyed our country.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:02 pmYeah, it’s also for America-haters!
Comment by Mr. President
Irrational and off-thread. NEXT!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThey’re coming here?? Now?? Oh SHIT!! Where do I hide??
July 12th, 2007 at 9:03 pm#23 my neighbor is a fairly evangelical christian who still supports george. she says this is the end of times, that God elected george to fulfill prophesy. i wonder how many christian ministers around the country are telling they congregations this?
I have heard this across the board that the fundamentalists WANT that. They believe that and are aggressively trying to pursue that.
How friggin’ scary is that??
July 12th, 2007 at 9:05 pmIf we hadn’t busted Iraq up so much, they’d have their own shopping malls and wouldn’t have to come over and use ours. I know it upsets the trolls when they do, walking around in robes and talking funny . . .
I don’t mind, personally, because I don’t care for malls anyway.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:06 pmi’d say they have overplayed that fear card.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:07 pmSince Spain did have a presence in Iraq until they “cut and run”, it would only seem reasonable that they would already have suffered numerous Al-Queda sponsored attacks on their shopping malls. So what gives?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:07 pmi’ll get the freedom fries ready!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:08 pmWe should stop the 3 billion dollars a month occupation and put that money towards securing our borders and ports.
Problem solved!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:08 pmNeocon Bill Kristol expects Bush to attack Pakistan
Published: Thursday July 12, 2007
Fox News on Thursday asked Neoconservative Bill Kristol to comment on the interim progress report on Iraq, which is about to be released and is expected to show an even split between benchmarks which show progress and those which do not.
“They’re silly benchmarks, a lot of them,” said Kristol. “The military situation is better than anyone expected. … If Bush can just hang on there and beat back the people in Congress who want to snatch defeat out of the jaws of possible success … I think we’re going to win this war.”
A Fox host then cited a new report that “al Qaeda … is running from Iraq, apparently to Pakistan” and asked “did this report come out on purpose so that we will have the right … to go after Pakistan now?”
Kristol responded, “I think the president’s going to have to take military action there over the next few weeks or months. … Bush has to disrupt that sanctuary.”
“I think, frankly, we won’t even tell Musharraf,” Kirstol continued. “We’ll do what we have to do in Western Pakistan and Musharraf can say, ‘Hey, they didn’t tell me.’”
July 12th, 2007 at 9:09 pm> I have heard this across the board that the fundamentalists WANT that.
But of course. And it’s not only the fundis:
Praying for a Terrorist Strike: The GOP’s Newest Political Strategy
How else are rational people supposed to understand the following remarks offered by Santorum during a July 7 interview on Hugh Hewitt’s syndicated radio program: “[C]onfronting Iran in the Middle East as an absolute linchpin for our success in that region…. And while it may not be a popular thing to talk about right now, and I know public sentiment is against it [namely, the war in Iraq and expanding the conflict to Iran] … between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public’s going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we’re seeing unfold in the UK. But I think the American public’s going to have a very different view….â€
July 12th, 2007 at 9:09 pm“If Bush can just hang on there and beat back the people in Congress who want to snatch defeat out of the jaws of possible success … I think we’re going to win this war.â€
- Bill (Israel First) Kristol
WHAT WAR?
It’s an occupation stupid.
If it’s a war, who’s the friggin’ enemy then?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:11 pm> “I think, frankly, we won’t even tell Musharraf,†Kirstol continued. “We’ll do what
> we have to do in Western Pakistan and Musharraf can say, ‘Hey, they didn’t tell me.’â€
I like that one. After that, Mushi will dance the Tyburn Jig and the terros will make off with his nukes. Bush/Cheney 2008!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:11 pmMore likely coming to a power plant, port, or refinery near you, none of which have seen increased security under this lame ass administration.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:11 pmPublished: Thursday July 12, 2007
Fox News on Thursday asked Neoconservative Bill Kristol to comment on the interim progress report on Iraq, which is about to be released and is expected to show an even split between benchmarks which show progress and those which do not.
“They’re silly benchmarks, a lot of them,†said Kristol. “The military situation is better than anyone expected. … If Bush can just hang on there and beat back the people in Congress who want to snatch defeat out of the jaws of possible success … I think we’re going to win this war.â€
A Fox host then cited a new report that “al Qaeda … is running from Iraq, apparently to Pakistan†and asked “did this report come out on purpose so that we will have the right … to go after Pakistan now?â€
Kristol responded, “I think the president’s going to have to take military action there over the next few weeks or months. … Bush has to disrupt that sanctuary.â€
“I think, frankly, we won’t even tell Musharraf,†Kirstol continued. “We’ll do what we have to do in Western Pakistan and Musharraf can say, ‘Hey, they didn’t tell me.’â€
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:12 pm#23 Tell your neighbor that if God elected bush, He has one real sick sense of humor.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:12 pmBoo!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:13 pmTony Snow
How else are rational people supposed to understand the following remarks offered by Santorum during a July 7 interview on Hugh Hewitt’s syndicated radio program: “[C]onfronting Iran in the Middle East as an absolute linchpin for our success in that region…. And while it may not be a popular thing to talk about right now, and I know public sentiment is against it [namely, the war in Iraq and expanding the conflict to Iran] … between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public’s going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we’re seeing unfold in the UK. But I think the American public’s going to have a very different view….â€
I guess that perhaps that Santorum has some inside info then.
Maybe this is why McCain is stubbornly hanging on to his pro-war platform. Maybe he has the same inside info too.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:14 pmthe time has come for good americans to start disrupting services at these fundamentalist churchs. their delusional beliefs are being manipulated by cynical politicians (rove) and are undermining our democracy (such as it is). if we want a tolerent society, we must deal with intolerence.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:14 pmThis administration needs to recognize the war in Iraq is a complete failure and mistake. There are more critical issues that affecting the lives of millions of americans and people world wide that our president is not taking actions against. Now the war has proven to be a failure and is causing more violence, terror and poverty in this world. According to the Borgen Project, it only takes $19 billion dollars annually to eradicate world hunger and poverty. However, our government has already spent more than $450 billion dollars over this fruitless war in Iraq. It is time for the Bush Administration to take a real interest in the lives of the American people as well as people who are in desperate needs around the world. Stop the lies and stop poverty now. Put away the arrogance and put the needs of the people before political gains.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:14 pmRe: Post #3
“Wow never heard of anyone paying to give someone else a BJ. Now if I could just find some women like that …”
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Hey … How about Ann Coulter?
She can be reached via the William Morris Agency
Phone: (212) 586-5100
Fax: (212) 246-3583
It might cost you 20 large … but it might be worth the scandal if you can pull it off.
Good luck.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:16 pmSince Spain did have a presence in Iraq until they “cut and runâ€, it would only seem reasonable that they would already have suffered numerous Al-Queda sponsored attacks on their shopping malls. So what gives?
Comment by curmudgeon
Yep, great point.
And England, who still has a presence in the region, keeps having all sorts of terrorist problems… even if most of them have been manufactured by MI5. LOL!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:17 pmI don’t mind, personally, because I don’t care for malls anyway.
Comment by gummitch
I agree. They can have the malls. Ugh.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:17 pmMr. President that’s the only thing you have ever posted that was worth a damn.
Now can you tell me whay it has taken so long to talk about finding Zawahiri who taunts you and me and Americans every chance he gets with his freedom?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:17 pmOh no, the sky is falling…the sky is falling. These lying SOBs can go to hell.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:18 pmQuite unbelievably, the neocons persist in their hero worship of Ronald Reagan, even though he “cut and ran” from Beirut after the bombing there in 1983 killed 241 U.S. Marines who were stationed there. Surely, those terrorists would have followed us here, and would have already blown up most of our shopping malls by now.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:18 pmNah, Ann Coulter gives “her”self blowjobs! ;-)
July 12th, 2007 at 9:19 pm#52 > I guess that perhaps that Santorum has some inside info then.
He could have seen the report “Bin Ladin determined to help out some more in the US”.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:20 pmOne of these days the crime family will say “we were just shitting you all along…we got ours so now it is yours”. These sorry thugs are worthless liars, crooks, and cowards. I hate a republican for the (R) after their names.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:20 pm“You better quit trying to get the troops out of Iraq or Dick Cheney is going to blow up a shopping mall?
Comment by Vato”
No, he’ll just shoot you in the face.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:20 pmThe sad thing is that eventually it will happen and we will have the kinds of things we see with suicide bombers. It’s not a matter of if but when.
The sad thing is that Bush brought it on. He allowed 9/11 to happen. He ignored “intelligence” about 9/11 and created “intelligence” about Iraq. PNAC wanted this war and they got it. We’ve tortured so many people that each of them could become the terrorists they originally weren’t.
Desperate people become terrorists.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:21 pmComment by LandSurveyor — July 12, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
What?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I post that all the time. I was responding to the post from Fux News.
Sure, I’ll tell you. After all, I am a neoCon.
There is really no more of a reason to get Zawahiri than any other terrorist leader. They are all a bunch of MuslimSh*teaters. Therefore, if support for the elimination of all muslims (aka “The War on Terror”) ever starts to dwindle, we can let the people know that we are about to get one of the really, really bad guys (who, we have know about the whole time of course).
July 12th, 2007 at 9:23 pmSure, I’ll tell you. After all, I am a neoCon.
Get out! Really? I would never have guessed!!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:24 pmMsJoanne # 61
If you keep talking naughty like that, MsJoanne, I may have to put forth a cyberspace marriage proposal …
:-)
Seriously, thanks for the smile.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:25 pmComment by Mr. President — July 12, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
The suicide bombers are primarily from Saudi Arabia just like the terrorists of 911. How do you explain that, shit for brains? The USA is the primary terrorist organization in Iraq…there are more of us, more heavily armed than them and we are tearing up more shit than we fix. Go figure, Einstein.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:26 pmComment by kasinca — July 12, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Good!
But the oil wells are still safe, right?
I thought so!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:28 pmThe sky is falling!
The sky is falling!
Yeah, we believe you. We also believe that PIGS can fly!
Meanwhile, I agree. The GIG IS UP.
Their LIES are sooooooooooooooooo transparent!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:29 pmHey President the last time I was in here you had changed your name to “Prince” or some shit like that? What up holmes? Still cruz’n Jr High’s for Ms President?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:29 pmRight on cue, the trolls are already launching their insults trying to distract from the obvious: That Snow’s nonsensical claim doesn’t hold water.
After all, wasn’t a terror plot thwarted not long ago in the US?
Clearly, it’s too late to claim that them evil terrorists would somehow follow the US military after their withdrawal from Iraq.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:30 pmRemember when we used to have effective trolls?
Today’s breed aren’t worth responding to.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:31 pm“my neighbor is a fairly evangelical christian who still supports george. she says this is the end of times, that God elected george to fulfill prophesy.”
I guess that totally negates Christians belief in free will.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:32 pmRemember when we used to have effective trolls?
Today’s breed aren’t worth responding to.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
All they do is take up space. That’s boring.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:34 pmwho really believes anything tony snow says
July 12th, 2007 at 9:34 pmI guess that totally negates Christians belief in free will.
Comment by JPark
I don’t think fundies really believe they have free will.
Hi JPark! Been a while!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:35 pmI apologize, this is a bit off topic but related to all the Sh*t. Two things:
1. Last weekend I had my grandaughter staying with us. As we were building furniture for the doll house I built for her at Christmas, I was cutting out the coffee table when it dawned on me… I built a second table, painted “IMPEACH NOW” in red, white and blue paint, attached a note: “See, it’s on the table now” and mailed it to Speaker Pelosi.
2. Inherent Contempt. Call by Rep (waste of time), my Senator (Harry can you hear me?–Loved that album) AND Keith Olberman (well emailed him-no phone#) with links to the definition. KO can reach a lot more people than this blog can.
Sorry, I know this is rather verbose, but I’m ANGRY! I did not give 22 years of my life in the AF for THIS!!! (wait–for “The Queen/Pip(ylongstockings)/Mr. Pee on everything..not enough !!! for you. Here’s a couple more..never mind I actually have a brain.
John
July 12th, 2007 at 9:35 pm#74 and #76
TripMaster Monkey and Zooey …
Whatever happened to “Exley?”
I hope he did not experience an aneurysm defending the Bush administration.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:38 pmI guess that totally negates Christians belief in free will.
Comment by JPark
I don’t think fundies really believe they have free will.
Comment by Zooey
Zooey,
They have as much free will as the rover, Darth, Dobson and Pat Robertson allows them to have!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:40 pm#79 Last weekend I had my grandaughter staying with us. As we were building furniture for the doll house I built for her at Christmas, I was cutting out the coffee table when it dawned on me… I built a second table, painted “IMPEACH NOW†in red, white and blue paint, attached a note: “See, it’s on the table now†and mailed it to Speaker Pelosi.
I proposed just that last week! I am going to find one of those little antique tables (my old boss collected them) and send it to Madam Speaker, myself!
GMTA!!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:41 pmZooey, yeah, I was decompressing. I am much less reactionary for a few weeks. I think fundies believe whatever they feel like believing at the time. Free will is a huge deal with them…until it is inconvenient.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:41 pmThanks for the great welcome back, though!!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:42 pmRachelb was the best troll money could buy. No one came close to her.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:43 pmIraq Withdrawal Would Bring Terrorists ‘To A Shopping Mall Near You’
Well even terrorists know a good deal when they see one - ITS END-OF-SUMMER CLEARANCE SALE TIME!!!!!!
Of course the terrorists will be at the mall shopping - Won’t you too?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:46 pmTHE MORE YOU BUY THE MORE YOU SAVE!!!!!!
Dear, soulless Tony,
We planted that seed the day we invaded Iraq. Heckuva job.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:46 pm“I proposed just that last week! I am going to find one of those little antique tables (my old boss collected them) and send it to Madam Speaker, myself!”
Comment by MsJoanne
The one I built for the dollhouse, I built, the one I sent to the Speaker came from a $6.00 kit I bought at the local hobby store. Save the time/money to work for the candidate of your choice. Nice to know that someone else thought of this…darn and I thought I was original:). Power to you MsJoanne.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:46 pmMuslimshiteater=Neocondicksucker
July 12th, 2007 at 9:47 pmWhatever you send to Madam Pelosi, make sure you send the same to the 15 or 20 or 30 Republican Senators who care more about supporting Bush and the Republican Party than they care about supporting the troops.
If these Republican jerk offs would step away from the party line and sniff some reality - things could proceed.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:52 pmDamn, I can’t find it because of some Illinois “terrorist plot” but didn’t some other Republican talk about them following us home and bombing our malls? I know this isn’t the first time I have heard this.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:54 pmWe planted that seed the day we invaded Iraq. Heckuva job.
Comment by Middle Seat — July 12, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
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The whole point is to fuk shit up in Islamic countries so that we can go in and completely blow Islam off the map.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:54 pmWho cares if Iraq is in a civil war, we are there, so therefore, we own it.
Once all the muslims are gone we will grab all the oil, sell it, and then use the profits to start another war with more sand-monkeys!
Whatever happened to “Exley?â€
I hope he did not experience an aneurysm defending the Bush administration.
Comment by Beavis
He was around yesterday, being pompous, still defending this admin.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:55 pmBOO!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:56 pmThanks for the great welcome back, though!!
Comment by JPark
You’ve missed some fabulous hijackings!
July 12th, 2007 at 9:56 pmZoo…Exley…pompous???? No way!!!! :)
July 12th, 2007 at 9:58 pmI bet, Zoo. The trolls seem to have lost their sparkle though.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:58 pmI guess Snow-job confirmed what I have known for a while, Al Quada is part of the NeoCon oranization, since they will come shopping here…. like Dubya told us all to do a Little Darth.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:01 pmSo has Cheney been refunded now or what?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:03 pmZoo…Exley…pompous???? No way!!!! :)
Comment by JPark
Hard to imagine, huh?
I bet, Zoo. The trolls seem to have lost their sparkle though.
Comment by JPark
They weren’t invited to the hijackings. :)
July 12th, 2007 at 10:04 pmI am all for a good liberal hijacking. I am proud that we are herded like cats.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:05 pmKristol responded, “I think the president’s going to have to take military action there [Pakistan] over the next few weeks or months. … Bush has to disrupt that sanctuary.â€
Comment by FuX News — July 12, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
When Kristol predicts what Bush will do, it will happen. It’s the only time you can believe a word he says.
Anyway, if true, this should prove interesting.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:06 pmWhy would they shop here? Rugs are cheap in Iraq and the streets are much safer there than in the US.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:06 pmThe IQ of the troll has decreased with approval rating of the thugs in the crime family.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI’m planning another attack as you little worms speak.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:08 pmWhen Kristol predicts what Bush will do, it will happen. It’s the only time you can believe a word he says.
Anyway, if true, this should prove interesting.
Comment by Egreggios — July 12, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
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Interesting?!?!?!
IT’S GOING TO BE FUKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE GOING TO FUK MORE SHIT UP IN A STINKIN’ MONKEY TOWN!!!!
I CAN’T WAIT TO WATCH IT ON TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:09 pmImpeachable Stains… ROFL
http://tinyurl.com/yw4vwm
July 12th, 2007 at 10:10 pmI’m planning another attack as you little worms speak.
Comment by Richard Cheney — July 12, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
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Good!
I knew you were!!!
God Bless You Sir!
The Christian God, that is ;)
July 12th, 2007 at 10:11 pm† † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † †
Neocondicksuckers love monkey felatio too.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:12 pmI CAN’T WAIT TO WATCH IT ON TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by “Mr. President”
If it happens … why not be there live and in living color yourself?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:13 pmInteresting?!?!?!
IT’S GOING TO BE FUKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE GOING TO FUK MORE SHIT UP IN A STINKIN’ MONKEY TOWN!!!!
I CAN’T WAIT TO WATCH IT ON TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
You know how you sent somebody’s post to the FBI today.
We’ll be saving your post for when the administration is out and the trials begin. I wonder how many crimes you have implicated yourself in? Those will be good times.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:13 pmNeocondicksuckers love monkey felatio too.
Comment by Mr. Shit-fer-brains
And they pay to perform it on the monkey too. Poor monkey.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:15 pmIraq: Civilian Deaths Down 36 Percent
July 12th, 2007 at 10:16 pmIraq Says Civilian Deaths Down 36 Percent From May, to Lowest Since Start of Baghdad Crackdown
Iraqi civilian deaths dropped to their lowest level since the start of the Baghdad security operation, government figures showed Sunday, suggesting signs of progress in tamping down violence in the capital.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/ International/ wireStory?id=3335646
Why do liberals want America to squander success in the new century?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:17 pmIraq: Civilian Deaths Down 36 Percent
Comment by FLSteve — July 12, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Sorry for the bad news, Pee.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:19 pm#114 Well, bush has been president for the whole century. Not a whole lot of success. This guy loses everything. Might as well rename him France.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:19 pmFLSteve, honestly, when was the last time you paid attention to the Iraqi death toll? Really. I mean it.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:20 pmNeocondicksuckers love monkey felatio too.
Comment by Mr. Shit-fer-brains — July 12, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
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Sure, I’d let a muslim chick blow me.
But she would have to shave and take a shower.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:20 pmComment by JPark — July 12, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
Once Bush is gone then you’ll really see some shit happening!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:21 pmAmerica will impose it’s force on the world!!!
I need more dead monkeys to make sweet love too.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:21 pmBy the way, that is attributed to the Baghdad crackdown. So, it it REALLY a 36% decrease in deaths in Baghdad or is that ALL THEY HAVE BEEN COUNTING?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:22 pmSorry for the bad news, Pee.
Comment by Egreggios — July 12, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
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Maybe they’re all dying off!
YES!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:22 pmComment by FLSteve — July 12, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Yes, “only” 1200 Iraqis are dying a month now.
What an astounding success.
But these Bush supporters are so used to lowering the bar for their Dear (mis)Leader, that the fact that Iraqis are still dying in the thousands can be twisted into a success story.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:22 pmMaybe, Primus, if Bush, Jr. is elected (Hillary).
July 12th, 2007 at 10:22 pmOh, and one more thing: Since when does the US military “do” body counts in Iraq? Wasn’t that verboten until not too long ago?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:24 pmDoes Mr Pee know someone at TP? Why are his posts allowed to stand while others, including mine, are deleted?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:24 pm“Why do liberals want America to squander success in the new century?”
Comment by “Mr. President”
Yeah … Especially since Bush says this is the “fight for our civilization …”
So off you go to Kentucky to do it the “right way” …
101st Airborne Division
HOPKINSVILLE
4152 fort campbell blvd
all american center
hopkinsville, KY 42240
270 - 881-9612
Good luck, “Mr. President” …
July 12th, 2007 at 10:24 pmThey have always done a body count. They’ve just pretended they didn’t.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:25 pm“And sooner or later it would come to our shores, to a shopping mall near you.”
Snow’s speaking as if we’re keeping them at bay because we’re over there… like they’re not setting their sites on us because they’re too busy overseas… if they plan to attack a shopping mall, they’ll do it whether we stay in Iraq or not… the important thing is to get smart about security here…
July 12th, 2007 at 10:25 pmLet’s make it easy for them since all their excuses are worn out: let’s take most of the worlds money, put it in a big giant hole in the desert and let all these money addicts go there and hang out.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:25 pmGet them all off the streets and out of our way.
They are causing way too many problems now.
They can count money, make pretend deals and tell stories to themselves.They can have a few rocks to hurt each other with when they get mad.
Everything they are doing now is useless and really wasting our time.
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From a brief scan of the comments here, it doesn’t appear as if anyone on this site pays much attention to anything. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:25 pmMr. President, the liberals are waiting for terrorists to detonate a nuclear device in a US city and the severe consequences to our nation.
Even then they will prefer to do nothing.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:26 pmSorry, I was replying to this:
” FLSteve, honestly, when was the last time you paid attention to the Iraqi death toll? Really. I mean it.
Comment by JPark ”
From a brief scan of the comments here, it doesn’t appear as if anyone on this site pays much attention to anything. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:27 pmand they’re saying back in Bagdad: “they’ll welcome us as liberators.”
July 12th, 2007 at 10:27 pm“From a brief scan of the comments here, it doesn’t appear as if anyone on this site pays much attention to anything. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.”
FLSteve pays a lot of attention to the news…specifically Rush, Beck, Savage and Michael Crighton. He loves fiction.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:27 pmm12,
No. Then they will blame America!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThey’ve just pretended they didn’t.
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
Yes, dave. Thanks. That was partially my point. The US military is so desperate to point at any success, literally any at all, that they are now using the body counts they always said they didn’t do and are “catapulting the propaganda” that “only” 1,200 Iraqis are dying per month.
With these friends, who needs enemies?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:29 pm“But these Bush supporters are so used to lowering the bar for their Dear (mis)Leader, that the fact that Iraqis are still dying in the thousands can be twisted into a success story. — Comment by Gregor Samsa ”
Hmmm. Could be you’re trying to twist a story on improvement into a failure story.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:29 pmComment by Mr. President — July 12, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
They will only if its Romney or Thompson. If Hillary wins, the radical left who supported Truman and supported Johnson will be pushing for war with Iran.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:30 pmComment by FLSteve — July 12, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Yeah, “only” 1,200 Iraqis are dying per month.
Such an improvement. Such a success story.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:31 pmThey’ve decided to start giving out body counts so that Pee, who has now reached puberty, can get sexual gratification.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:31 pmSo, W’s war on terror has brought us to this.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:32 pmIn the first place, our shopping malls were completely safe the entire eight years of Clinton.
In the second place, W told us to go shopping after 9/11.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:32 pmm12 shot himself in the foot when he said
Apparently it’s still quite easy to obtain radioactive material in the USA –enough to build a dirty bomb. Homeland Security and Bush’s Patriot Act have done nothing to protect Americans. There total incompetents.
Oh, and m12’s foot was in his mouth when he shot it. Size 13.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:34 pmm12, what kind of psychotic moron are you? Truman was a big lefty? Damn, you are stupid.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:34 pmBut, didn’t they say about a month ago that they would no longer count certain types of deaths? Isn’t that why the count is lower?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:34 pmComment by m12 — July 12, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Judging from what I have heard in my area (Northern Virginia), Hillary does not have the votes here. I am hoping for someone with more balls (metaphorically speaking) and, of course, someone who is not a Clinton or an Hussien Obama.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:35 pmm12,
Check this out:
http://zombietime.com/ mohammed_image_archive/ extreme_mohammed/ mohammad1.jpeg
July 12th, 2007 at 10:37 pmDer, Primus, North Carolina is a hillbilly state. Of course a Dem will lose. They like their women hairy.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:37 pmYeah…it’s a real shame he has cancer.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:38 pm“Such an improvement. Such a success story.” — Comment by Gregor Samsa
From the same story I cited earlier:
June’s figures were the lowest monthly tally this year.
…the figures suggest a downward trend, which may be due to U.S. military pressure on insurgents in Baghdad and the surrounding areas.
The commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad, Maj. Gen. Joseph F. Fil, Jr., told reporters on Friday that American and Iraqi security forcesnow control nearly half of the 474 neighborhoods in Baghdad — up from 19 percent in April.
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That’s a story of improvement. The count isn’t going to go to 0 in a month. In fact, it’s not 0 in Chicago or DC….far from it.
Try to twist the facts any way you will. They won’t go away.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:38 pmFLSteve, when was the last time you believed an Iraqi death count? This time is the first because it is “positive” for you pathetic chickenhawks.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:39 pmComment by JPark — July 12, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
I’m from VA, and NC girls are hot!
But you are right a dem will lose in ‘08!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:39 pm“But, didn’t they say about a month ago that they would no longer count certain types of deaths? Isn’t that why the count is lower?” — Comment by Keith G
Interesting…can you get a source for that? I’d be interested in knowing it if it’s true.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:39 pmApparently it’s still quite easy to obtain radioactive material in the USA –enough to build a dirty bomb. Homeland Security and Bush’s Patriot Act have done nothing to protect Americans. There total incompetents.
So why haven’t terrorists done it?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:41 pmSaveTheChildren.org says that one in eight Iraqi children now die before the age of five. In Afghanistan, one in four.
Another study said Iraq was the second worst failed state in the world—only Sudan was worse.
True number of dead is around one million. True total cost is $2.3 Trillion.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:41 pm“FLSteve, when was the last time you believed an Iraqi death count? This time is the first because it is “positive†for you pathetic chickenhawks.” — Comment by JPark
I’m sure you cared about it…until it dropped. And, BTW, is this the only way liberals can argue, by slinging words like “pathetic chickenhawks”? It reminds me of Ann Coulter’s comment — all these college liberals can do is throw food. That’s the verbal equivalent. Nice technique.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:41 pmWell, Primus, you might be right but only because the Dems will nominate a Republican Lite.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:42 pmJudging from what I have heard in my area (Northern Virginia), Hillary does not have the votes here. I am hoping for someone with more balls (metaphorically speaking) and, of course, someone who is not a Clinton or an Hussien Obama.
Why don’t they just take Chuck Hagel? Pro cut and run, pro amnesty, he’s their kinda guy!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:42 pmFLSteve, then why are you in the States if you aren’t a chickenhawk? Let me guess…you can do more for the war effort here. That is classic. By the way, I am not surprised anything reminds you of Ann Coulter’s comments…you manly woman, you.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:44 pmI’m from VA, and NC girls are hot!
But you are right a dem will lose in ‘08!
Comment by Mr. President
Like you care about hot girls … what a joke.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:45 pm“But you are right a dem will lose in ‘08!”
Comment by Mr. President
All any democratic candidate has to do is quote any republican candidate’s support for Bush’s policies, and do a slow visual morph from the candidate to Bush. “No More Bushes” will become America’s new theme.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:45 pmTry to twist the facts any way you will. They won’t go away.
Comment by FLSteve — July 12, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
“Twisting the facts”? The 1,200 deaths per month figure is right there, in the link you provided.
Talking about facts, the fact that Iraqis are dying at a clip of 1,200 per month (or more, according to the article) is already a sign that the strategy, overall, has failed.
Weren’t the US troops going to be “greeted as liberators”? Wasn’t the occupation supposed to end a tyrannical regime that tortured and killed Iraqis by the thousands?
Iraqis are still being tortured, bombed, maimed, and killed. Hardly a success story.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:46 pmLOL, shane, I am sensing a very large closet.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:46 pm#132
“m12″
WTF ??? !!!
1. Are you saying that the enemy knows that there are significant amounts of fissionable material in Iraq and we have to fight to keep them from getting it?
If so - why was Cheney concerned that Saddam was working with Niger to get fissionable material if it was already in Iraq?
2. Are you saying that the enemy is dumb enough to IMPORT fissionable material that they may have stolen from somewhere within the Former Soviet Union INTO Iraq - one of the hottest war zones on Earth and right under the nose of the U.S. Military?
Why would they do that?
That would be stupid.
Why not take it to the Pakistan/Afghanistan border where they are relatively (unfortunately because of our shift to Iraq in 2003) unbothered?
3. Are you saying that all of the IED makers in Iraq are also proficient in building nuclear bombs from scratch? And that they all have the proper documentation to board a flight to the U.S. and get through customs without hassle?
How does an Iraqi IED maker get fissionable material?
How does he turn it into a nuclear bomb?
How does he get himself from there to here?
How does he get the nuclear bomb from there to here?
Do you know how hard it is to detonate a proper nuke?
I think the “Terror Pimps” have got their hooks into you, my friend.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:46 pmFLSteve, then why are you in the States if you aren’t a chickenhawk? Let me guess…you can do more for the war effort here. That is classic. By the way, I am not surprised anything reminds you of Ann Coulter’s comments…you manly woman, you. — Comment by JPark
More solid debating technique from JPark. This guy’s a real piece of work.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:46 pm“It reminds me of Ann Coulter’s comment — all these college liberals can do is throw food. That’s the verbal equivalent. Nice technique.”
Comment by FLSteve
And you’re complaining about others’ debating skills?
That’s rich.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:50 pmSnow is wrong. Iraq is already destabilized. Removing troops would be an improvement. We have already lost influence in the Middle East. Our presence in Iraq is making us less safe. Our presence is used as a recruiting tool by the insurgents. We are seen as invaders and occupiers instead of liberators. Bush has been wrong about all his predictions in connection to this war. He has no credibility. If Snow says that the region will be destabilized, the opposite is probably true because they have been wrong so often.
More and more people are dying because of the civil war in Iraq. Our only option is to leave. Snow is once again playing the fear card. This rationale is false. They use fear when it helps politically, but ignore real warnings like the latest NIE report when it is politically expedient to do so. I wish Snow and Bush would address the hike in US deaths in Iraq. The surge has clearly failed. That is why the Joint Chiefs of Staff came out against the surge. That is why Gen. Casey was replaced because he disagreed with Bush.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:50 pmFLSteve, you are still here sucking Mai-tais while others die in your place. You are a wimp.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:51 pmApparently it’s still quite easy to obtain radioactive material in the USA –enough to build a dirty bomb…
Comment by david — July 12, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
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Oh hell yeah, it’s a piece of cake!
Shit, in most strip-malls you’ll find at least two or three nuclear waste distributors!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:51 pmSnow: Iraq Withdrawal Would Bring Terrorists ‘To A Shopping Mall Near You’
Was he just threatening the American people?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:51 pmJPark, a hundred thousand (or few hundred thousand) rag heads mean nothing to the big, bad American chickenhawk sitting in front of his computer instead of fighting the good fight.
Sick, disgusting, a$$holes who aren’t worth the air they breathe.
Go blow O’Reilly or Hannity. All the hard core NeoCons seem to love man on man sex. Hope you swallow - oh wait, you already do (well, the bull$hit, at least).
July 12th, 2007 at 10:51 pmMore solid debating technique from JPark. This guy’s a real piece of work.
Comment by FLSteve
Are you going to answer the question, or are you a blog critic?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:52 pmJP, the first part of the last message was for you. But you’re smart enough to know that. ;-)
July 12th, 2007 at 10:52 pmTony Snow’s comment is the stupidest thing anyone could say to justify this war. NOW, while the troops are IN Iraq, is the perfect time to attack our shopping malls. WHILE THE TROOPS ARE AWAY!!!
How long do we have to listen to the Rethug fools before we do whay is necessary to get our democracy back?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:52 pmGus, probably as long as it takes to instill a full, no option out draft where the chickenhawks kids get sent away.
The war would end in hours, not days.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:53 pmThe surge has clearly failed. That is why the Joint Chiefs of Staff came out against the surge. That is why Gen. Casey was replaced because he disagreed with Bush. — Comment by Probus
This is incorrect. Casey was replaced in January, when the surge strategy was announced, not later, after it “failed” (Probus’ word).
July 12th, 2007 at 10:53 pmLOL, shane, I am sensing a very large closet.
Comment by JPark
There isn’t a closet big enough for Mr. P, and I mean that in a couple of ways.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:54 pmA Flash (or two) from the Past…
2002 WorldNetDaily.com
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
I wonder what ever became of these BS plans. LOL!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:54 pmMsJoanne, I figured. You are right. They sit here and defend their “honor”…sort of, I have never really had one of these neo-con a$$holes really give me a good excuse as to why they are not soldiers.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:55 pmI think the “Terror Pimps†have got their hooks into you, my friend.
Comment by Beavis
I thin ur12’s head just asploded. What a mess.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:56 pm