Waxman to introduce ‘Surgeon General Independence Act.’
By on Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Waxman to introduce ‘Surgeon General Independence Act.’
In response to former Surgeon General Richard H. Carmona’s explosive testimony earlier this week, in which he described how the Bush administration censored him from commenting on key public health issues, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-CA) “announced his plans to introduce legislation to protect the Surgeon General from political interference.” Waxman said, “On key public health issues the Surgeon General has been muzzled. This problem will not solve itself.”
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Give em hell Henry!
July 12th, 2007 at 7:28 pmI can’t wait to see the spin on how it’s a bad thing for the Surgeon General to be independent from partisonship.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:29 pmOf course, The Office of the Vice President will be exempt fromthe Surgeon General Independence Act. How about, “The Attorney General Independence Act” too?
July 12th, 2007 at 7:36 pmGo get ‘em Waxman! God I love this guy!
It’s going to take a long time to clean up 4 years of nonexistent oversight. Thank god they are taking it seriously, no matter how little they can get done with the obstructionist GOP dickwads we still have.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:36 pmGet ‘er done, Henry.
#3 – the USDOJ independence act also sounds like a winner.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:45 pmHow dare anyone question Shotgun Dick and his organ grinding monkey called The Decider!
The Surgeon General must be tried for treason for questoning our leaders.
-GSD
July 12th, 2007 at 7:46 pmHow about an “FDA Independence Act?”
July 12th, 2007 at 7:48 pmWaxman and TP needs to take a step back and FIX THE SIGNING STATEMENTS PROBLEM FIRST!!
WHO IS FREE FROM THIS BASTARD PRESIDUNCE UNTIL HIS SHIT IS SHUT DOWN STARTING WITH HIS BULLSH!T SIGNING STATEMENTS!!
July 12th, 2007 at 7:56 pmthis is definately needed, especially for THIS president
We need the same kind of law for the Justice Dept.
And WTF happened on the Hindu Prayer thread?
July 12th, 2007 at 8:03 pmseeing the crazy trolls that desended on that thread was like watching a hoard of rabid, mouth-frothing gerbils in some kind of weird ritualistic orgy.
> seeing the crazy trolls that desended on that thread was like watching
> a hoard of rabid, mouth-frothing gerbils in some kind of weird ritualistic
> orgy.
Yeah, and apparently the Muslims are the cause most wars. Like Mel Gibson from another dimension.
But onwards now!
July 12th, 2007 at 8:06 pm> seeing the crazy trolls that desended on that thread was like watching
> a hoard of rabid, mouth-frothing gerbils in some kind of weird ritualistic
> orgy.
Not surprisingly, it all sounds as if it came from the same keyboard — one supplied by the RNC with content paid for by the same.
The CIA classifies information, disinformation, and misinformation as viable tools of intelligence. They also utilize heavily the disruption of information, which is what that whole monkey-spastic thread sounded like. Call me cynical, but I believe there’s a larger method to their apparent madness.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:16 pmWhy doesn’t Waxman and the other legislative types stop writing nice polite letters and attempting to add more confusing, unenforceable laws to this garbage can of crap that they have produced?
July 12th, 2007 at 9:06 pmMayhap they could serve us better by calling attention to those breaking all these laws, by using their powers of enforcement through impeachment and subpoena.
What are they afraid of? Does somebody have the goods on them? Have they done something wrong in the past? Are they on the madam’s list. Oh no, not again.
Wow, if Koop was Reagan’s byatch we would still think cigs were the best thing for us…ever.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:01 pmnext, eliminate signing statements…
July 12th, 2007 at 10:22 pmThis bill wouldn’t even go into effect for the current President and the current SG! What an idiotic reflex law!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:24 pmHow quickly Mr. Waxman has forgotten Clinton canning his Surgeon General!
July 12th, 2007 at 10:25 pmm12, you don’t actually care what the laws are, do you? You just care if they help your messiah.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:30 pmm12, you don’t actually care what the laws are, do you? You just care if they help your messiah.
This is a bill, not a law. What law are you referring to?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:34 pmWhatever, m12. The point is you are happy it wouldn’t go into effect until AFTER Bush. You are such an a$$-kissing little whore.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:36 pmm12 sez:
How quickly m12 has forgotten that “Clinton did it” is not an acceptable excuse.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:37 pmHow quickly m12 has forgotten that “Clinton did it†is not an acceptable excuse.
Hahaha! Apologizing for your hero and the man you probably voted for twice?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:44 pmWhatever, m12. The point is you are happy it wouldn’t go into effect until AFTER Bush. You are such an a$$-kissing little whore.
Why didn’t the Democrats push for anti-pardon, anti-firing laws during/after the Clinton administration?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:45 pmm12, maybe because it is unconstitutional? You wouldn’t know what that means, though.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:48 pmm12, maybe because it is unconstitutional? You wouldn’t know what that means, though.
Barney Frank was discussing an amendment in Feb. 2001, so at least 1 person was on board.
Wonder where the Democratic Congressional leadership was.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:51 pmm12 sez:
Hahaha! Wrong on both counts, dolt.
And lest you continue to leverage this into yet another one of your idiot crusades against Clinton in a fervent attempt to derail the thread, let’s bring in a little perspective.
From Ex-Surgeon General Says Administration Interfered, by Julie Rovner:
Hope that clears things up for you.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:53 pmOk, m12, if Barney Frank was for tearing up the Constitution I MUST be for it!!! Dipsh!t.
July 12th, 2007 at 10:53 pmComment by JPark — July 12, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
Most of your fellow liberals on this site are. They were really crying about the Scooter!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:00 pmScooter is a criminal. Why are you orgasming over him?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:01 pmPerspective for you, Monkey:
Joycelyn Elders Fired By Clinton
The first question that happened to be asked of Joycelyn Elders at this United Nations World AIDS Day Conference: “…if masturbation might be taught as a way to prevent AIDS?” Joycelyn Elders replied: “masturbation is something that is a part of human sexuality, and is a part of something that perhaps should be taught.”
Joycelyn Elders was fired by President Clinton one week later
July 12th, 2007 at 11:02 pmfor “values contrary to the administration.”
Mas!urbation is bad, m12!!!! Right?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:15 pmComment by m12 — July 12, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
And I assume that you’re expecting me to defend Clinton’s decision? Sorry to disappoint, m12, but your assumption that anyone that dares to speak out against Chimpy is a Clinton groupie continues to be wrong.
What’s amusing about trolls like you that attempt to defend Chimpy by citing similar offenses committed by Clinton is that you consistently run up against two major difficulties that render your arguments D.O.A.:
1) Comparing Chimpy’s offenses to Clinton’s is a bit like comparing a tragic combine accident to a nasty paper cut.
2) If you condemn Clinton for offenses similar to Chimpy’s, you must also condemn Chimpy (that is, if you want to be intellectually honest, which is a good idea if you want to be taken seriously here). If you condemn Clinton, you condemn Chimpy. If you exonerate Chimpy, you exonerate Clinton. You can’t have it both ways, and watching you trolls try again and again to do just that provides us with no end of amusement.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:18 pmFiring a SG = paper cut.
Giving a SG a few directions = combine accident
Interesting point of view! Where is the provision in Waxman’s bill to prevent the President from firing the SG?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:23 pmMas!urbation is bad, m12!!!! Right?
Clinton thought so. Hillary probably doesn’t though; Bill wouldn’t have needed Monica if he had done the deed himself!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:24 pm2) If you condemn Clinton for offenses similar to Chimpy’s, you must also condemn Chimpy (that is, if you want to be intellectually honest, which is a good idea if you want to be taken seriously here). If you condemn Clinton, you condemn Chimpy. If you exonerate Chimpy, you exonerate Clinton. You can’t have it both ways, and watching you trolls try again and again to do just that provides us with no end of amusement.
Of course. The SG is part of our uniformed services, bound by military code, and thus subject to all orders and dismissal from the President.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:27 pmm12 sez:
Still can’t form an argument without dragging Clinton into it, huh?
How disappointing.
As for “giving the SG a few directions”, that’s even more ridiculous than usual for you, m12.
From Carmona’s testimony:
“Giving the SG a few directions”, indeed.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:31 pmm12 sez:
What a breathtakingly vapid non-answer.
Do you really think that warping the SG’s medical recommendations to fit the Procrustean bed of Fundie ideology is in the nation’s best interests?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:36 pmApparently firing someone is not ignoring, marginalizing, or burying them.
Well, ok!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:37 pmDo you really think that warping the SG’s medical recommendations to fit the Procrustean bed of Fundie ideology is in the nation’s best interests?
Certainly better than having no SG at all, as we did in part of 1994.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:37 pmm12, Clinton was wrong and wimped out. Sounds like you thought he was right, though. Yeah, masturbation makes you blind, right? Nope, conservatism does.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:38 pmm12 sez:
Apparently, you didn’t actually read my earlier post. I’ll repost the relevant passage again:
So, the fiction of having a SG is better than not having one at all?
Illusion over reality…how very neoconesque of you.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 pmSo, the fiction of having a SG is better than not having one at all?
I think so, setting aside your stem cell research voodoo, Carmona was able to push his anti public smoking policy, which liberals might like.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:51 pmm12 sez:
So believing that you have an AG that is giving valid recommendations, while what you actually have is a puppet AG that is being forced to distort reason and scienbce in favor of politics and ideology, is preferable to having the position temporarily vacant.
In short, you think lies are more useful than no information at all.
Again, how depressingly neoconesque of you.
Thanks for supplying another reason why rational people need not take you seriously. Quite considerate of you.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:03 amSo believing that you have an AG that is giving valid recommendations, while what you actually have is a puppet AG that is being forced to distort reason and scienbce in favor of politics and ideology, is preferable to having the position temporarily vacant.
Temporarily vacant? No, if the Dims in Congress keep whining about the new guy appointed, it’ll be vacant for well over 2 years.
Besides, I have no idea why you focus of a few bits of his agenda and ignore the rest of what he did while he was in his position.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:07 amThe problem is this. Will the Chimp sign legislation that would force him to stop doing what he did to Carmona? Nope. Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Passing legislation is great but until we have a President who will actually sign the legislation we’re jousting at windmills.
I bet when he becomes President, Al Gore will sign legislation like Waxman proposes.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:47 amWhy not introduce legislation entitled ‘Everybody Happy Today’? Congress has no power anymore. We could save ourselves a huge chunk of change just by disbanding them for all the good they do.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:52 amThe problem is this. Will the Chimp sign legislation that would force him to stop doing what he did to Carmona? Nope. Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Passing legislation is great but until we have a President who will actually sign the legislation we’re jousting at windmills.
I bet when he becomes President, Al Gore will sign legislation like Waxman proposes.
Sure he will sign it, unless Dems attach some abortion rider to it. It won’t affect his Presidency.
July 13th, 2007 at 3:11 pm