‘We’re making progress.’
By on Jul 12th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
‘We’re making progress.’
For the past four years, President Bush has offered the constant refrain that progress is being made on the ground in Iraq. Americans Against Escalation in Iraq asks, “Senator McConnell: Is This Your Idea of Progress in Iraq?” Watch their ad:
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Never heard that before.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:13 pmI am guessing righties don’t understand the word, “progress”. They must think it is a synonym of quagmire.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:14 pmi think they’re getting that word confused with ‘rowing’ – sitting on your ass and going backwards
July 12th, 2007 at 11:19 pmIn the words of Inigo Montoya, “I do not think that word means what you think it means.”
July 12th, 2007 at 11:22 pmHey,
Looks Like Bush is a “Progressive” too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:25 pmLOL, that was good, Primus :)
July 12th, 2007 at 11:26 pmAh, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
-GSD
July 12th, 2007 at 11:28 pmprog·ress /n. ˈprÉ’grÉ›s, -rÉ™s or, especially Brit., ˈproÊŠgrÉ›s; v. prəˈgrÉ›s/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[n. prog-res, -ruhs or, especially Brit., proh-gres; v. pruh-gres] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
July 12th, 2007 at 11:30 pm–noun
1. a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage: the progress of a student toward a degree.
2. developmental activity in science, technology, etc., esp. with reference to the commercial opportunities created thereby or to the promotion of the material well-being of the public through the goods, techniques, or facilities created.
3. advancement in general.
4. growth or development; continuous improvement: He shows progress in his muscular coordination.
5. the development of an individual or society in a direction considered more beneficial than and superior to the previous level.
6. Biology. increasing differentiation and perfection in the course of ontogeny or phylogeny.
7. forward or onward movement: the progress of the planets.
8. the forward course of action, events, time, etc.
9. an official journey or tour, as by a sovereign or dignitary.
–verb (used without object) progress
10. to go forward or onward in space or time: The wagon train progressed through the valley. As the play progressed, the leading man grew more inaudible.
11. to grow or develop, as in complexity, scope, or severity; advance: Are you progressing in your piano studies? The disease progressed slowly.
—Idiom
12. in progress, going on; under way; being done; happening: The meeting was already in progress.
[Origin: 1400–50; late ME progresse (n.)
Comment by Mr. President — I thought your name was now PRIMVSBVSHCORNHOLDSCHENEY?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:35 pmChimpy’s making progress at telling us he’s making progress.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:36 pmWe’re making progress…the treasury is almost empty, our corporate interests have been moved offshore, we’ve purchased estates in foreign countries with no extradition treaties, and the next terrorist attack is coming along according to plan.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:36 pmBrilliant!!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:36 pmI think the right wing’s definition of progress means transference of taxpayer dollars to the industrial military complex.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:38 pmFan of Man, please don’t show that to Chimpy.
All he will remember is the part about “The wagon train progressed through the valley”.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:38 pmThis administartion’s “progress” is like Zeno’s Paradox. You can never get anywhere because in order to get somewhere, you first have to get half-way there. But before you can get to this point, you have to get half-way to it. And so on. In the end, you can never move because you always have to get half-way to where you want to go first.
That, is progress to the Bush Administration. The administration that put the “ox” in “Zeno’s Paradox”.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:38 pmThe president needs to level with the American people and tell the truth. Clearly progress is not being made. He never should have invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 9-11 or bin Laden. Saddam had no WMDs. We were lied into this war. Iraq is in the middle of a civil war. There is no direct link between al Qaeda in Iraq and bin Laden. We only have Bush’s word that there is. The surge has failed.
This civil war is between Shiias and Sunnis and our troops are caught in the middle of it. We are less safe due to our involvement in Iraq and our presence is used as a recruiting tool by insurgents. We are seen as an occupying presence. This war has undermined our moral authority in the world. As Kerry so correctly said “We are seen as some kind of an international pariah.” Al Qaeda is now back to its original strength according to the latest NIE.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 pmSee, you folks just don’t get it — when the chimp repeatedly says “we’re makin’ progress” it is just to reinforce that we’re makin’ progress in Iraq.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:45 pmSee, if he just says so over and over again, his brain waves are so strong and effective that they reach through the air and actually make progress happen.
See, you also forget, that he is on a divine mission here; he can’t fail because he was told to invade Iraq by god, and we all know god is really pissed off at Iraqis.
This is progressin Iraq, it’s just that god works in mysterious ways and we can’t see the progress yet – but Bush can see it – and we should take his word for it. He’s inspired.
Seven year’s of lie’s, who would believe them now.?..Past repeating, more of the same if they say they are progressing we all know by next Thursday the opposit will prove to be true….
JPark, good to see you back….Great post Wayne….Blessings
July 12th, 2007 at 11:50 pmMarie, inspired post!
Hey, Sharon, hey, JPark!
If Bush’s body language (there’s that stupid phrase again) doesn’t convey to anyone watching that he’s making this shite up, his childish words certainly prove it. What a pathetic excuse for a human being.
July 12th, 2007 at 11:54 pmOUROBOROS!!
July 12th, 2007 at 11:55 pmThanks, Sharon, and many Blessings to you, too.
“What magnificent trees you have here!” – Special Agent Dale Cooper, FBI, “Twin Peaks”
July 12th, 2007 at 11:57 pmeverytime Bush says “we’re making good progress.” and ” we need more time” another conservative comes to our side.
I think they’re going to IMPEACH Bush right at the last movement like the cons did to Clinton.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:02 amYes, Ichthus. War is eternal.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:07 amBack at ya Wayne and Jane……Oh if you all could see my trees and flower’s, so pretty this year….I wish for you all beauty to see and Peace on our planet…Blessings
July 13th, 2007 at 12:11 amThe problem is, we’ve been making the same kind of progress for the last four years. The president is trying to buy time, so he won’t be the man responsible for pulling the troops out and admiting defeat in Iraq.
If he’s lucky, he can stall until Jan 2009. This will enable the Repubs to blame the whoe mess on whoever comes next.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:13 amThere is only one real benchmark in Iraq.
Getting that Oil Giveaway Law signed.
Then our troops will have to stay forever.
To guard the oil.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:14 amThere is only one real benchmark in Iraq.
Getting that Oil Giveaway Law signed.
Then our troops will have to stay forever.
To guard the oil.
Comment by Tom3 — July 13, 2007 @ 12:14 am
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally, someone who understands politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 12:16 am“We’re making progress” on our journey to hell.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:28 amhey people. Have you all seen this film, Zeitgeist?
July 13th, 2007 at 12:36 amhttp://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
July 13th, 2007 at 12:36 amProgress? How can progress be made when the entire fiasco was based on lies? It is all a lie! And now these f’ing liars are preparing to attack US again — just to stir those who can’t see the bush*it. Wake up America — our days are numbered……..
Take care all true patriots — our country needs us.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:37 amdid you notice that change in tone from ‘progress’ as “i truly believe what I’m saying” even if no one else does, to the defensive “f* you, we’re making progress dammit–and don’t bother me i’ve got my too far up cheney’s ass to hear you” ‘progress’ toward the end?
July 13th, 2007 at 12:39 amWe need to keep “Thinking Progress”!!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 12:40 amNeocondicksucker=Muslimshiteater=16 year-old=Bigotedbumbf*ck=Deadhippiec*nt
July 13th, 2007 at 12:42 amNeocondicksucker=Muslimshiteater=16 year-old=Bigotedbumbf*ck=Deadhippiec*nt
Comment by Mr. Shit-fer-brains
Now, don’t hold anything back, Mr. S-F-B. Tell us exactly how you feel.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:47 amhey republic, have you seen this film?http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
July 13th, 2007 at 12:47 amtry this one
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
July 13th, 2007 at 12:48 amtry this one
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Comment by willyloman
Haven’t seen it, willy. What’s it about?
July 13th, 2007 at 12:52 amWell, if you are to believe the Bush supporters spewing insanities in this very blog, progress is being made and the surge is a success because “only” 1,200 Iraqis are dying per month now.
Of course, June had the highest number of US casualties, and 1200 is the tally for Baghdad only that doesn’t include the rest of the country but those facts are conveniently ignored (they must be, otherwise it’s not a success anymore).
July 13th, 2007 at 12:54 amMade recently. Deals with manipulation of public information and shared belief systems.
Deals with the Global Banking Groups, Religion, 911, False flag events, connections between Bush Family and Bin Laddens…very good film. 2 hours.
Some great stuff in there about how the Lusitannia, Gulf of Tunkin, Pearl Harbor, and 911 all have very striking similarities.
There is one video, that I remember seeing and talking about, the video CNN showed of Bin Ladden’s confession after 911.
The video is frozen and a picture of him is put on the screeen, 4 pictures…it’s not Bin Ladden in the video.
You got to see it. Nelson Rockefeller talking to a guy before 911 about “something is going to happen and we will go into Iraq, Afganistan, and Venizuala”
July 13th, 2007 at 12:59 amYes — willyloman – the bin laden video is a fake. We still do not know who committed the crimes of 9/11 although much of the world suspects an inside job. Bin Laden is not wanted for this crime — there is not enough evidence. Yet look at GWB on that fateful day recorded for all of history – a peon thinking to himself “I can’t believe they really did it……. what do I do now?…………..” Who is our leader? No one! Those who think they are leaders, are not. Those who want to be, are not. We the People shall select the leader to follow us — as it should be and has always been.
Wake up America — please — take care all true Patriots, our country needs us>
July 13th, 2007 at 1:07 amBush keeps insisting that it’s up to the Generals to decide whether we should continue in Iraq or not. No it’s not, the decision whether to continue the war is a political decision. The Generals will tell you “we can continue and keep losing, or we can not continue”, but it’s NOT their decision to keep fighting this obvious lost cause.
Everytime Bush mentions POLL in his explanations in his press conference. He doesn’t want to go by the POLLs in making a decision. Instead, place the word AMERICAN PEOPLE instead of POLLs. He explains that he will not go by what the AMERICAN PEOPLE say he should do…
“And one of the things I talked about in the opening comments was, do we do it now, or basically pull back, let the Gallup poll AMERICAN PEOPLE or whatever poll AMERICAN PEOPLE there are decide the fate of the country?”
“I suspect — I know this, Ed, that if our troops thought that I was taking a poll to AMERICAN PEOPLE decide how to conduct this war, they would be very concerned about the mission.”
“But they also need to know that I am making decisions based upon our security interests, of course, but also helping them succeed, and that a pollAMERICAN PEOPLE is not going to determine the course of action by the United States.”
July 13th, 2007 at 1:11 amIn Australia we have a Prime Minister who has always supported the Dubya and has us asking the question: who is more fool, the fool or the fool who follows the fool?
July 13th, 2007 at 1:15 amOne of our PM’s firm beliefs is that if you say it three times it must be true, therefore, given Dubya’s assessment of the ‘progress’ being made, we in Oz are told that it’s all ’sunshine and lollipops’ in Iraq. And the commercial media coverage (propaganda) supports this by showing ‘happy soldiers playing with happy Iraq kiddies’ as we all trundle down the yellow brick road; and opponents of the war are the wicked witches from the west.
The really terrifying aspect of the invasion is that the leadership believes there will be a ‘fairytale’ ending.
This is no longer a war ——– this is an occupation. How would we feel to be occupied by invaders? What would WE do? I think the same…….. Who is to blame? Stupid from day one……….purely stupid, yet based from power and greed in OUR names! Tomorrow is the French Independence day — when they took their royalty and cut their heads off. Let’s celebrate with them — and let’s get our balls and ovaries back!! And take our country back! The time is now, we need our Bastilles day……………..
July 13th, 2007 at 1:18 amThank you TJ — hello to Australia from a lost America.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:21 amYou got to see it. Nelson Rockefeller talking to a guy before 911 about “something is going to happen and we will go into Iraq, Afganistan, and Venizualaâ€
Comment by willyloman
I’ve heard bits and pieces of this but haven’t seen it all laid out in a whole before. I’ve been looking at that 3rd building at the WTC that came down hrs after the 1st 2 even though it hadn’t been hit by anything.
This sort of thing usually gets you labelled a tinfoil hat wearer, but I dunno. there are just too manyt loose ends here n one wants to talk about. You watch… some F-ing troll will be all over these comments.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:33 am“Thank you TJ — hello to Australia from a lost America.”
Comment by green — July 13, 2007 @ 1:21 am
How evocative – thanks, green. Reminds me of an old Simon and Garfunkel tune.
Thanks from me, too, TJ, I hope that there are others in Australia who feel the same way that you do.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:34 amI see Mr Pseudo President is no longer commenting. Too afraid? Bully – pure and simple bully. I am ready to spar — bring it on!
July 13th, 2007 at 1:34 amGreetings Jane — I think the whole world is crying with us, we are not alone……….
July 13th, 2007 at 1:36 amPresident Bush was right he is making progress in Iraq as the US stole $280 Million dollars and said Iraq did it. Yes that was US taxpayers money and I say that’s great progress as the American people believe every word this liar says. Yes we will have to replace the stolen money as it was for payment to US/Iraq soldiers, contractors and Iraq government. Congress is now voting on releasing another payment of 290 Million dollars so we will have to give Iraq a total of
July 13th, 2007 at 1:43 am$570 Million to cover their expenses. It’s all about the money and look for more to be stolen before Bush is forced out. Now for the trolls that have never been to Iraq Green Zone a soldier who was there said it is impossible for anyone to rob the bank or even get out of the Green Zone because of the Walls. Yes the Green Zone is totally controlled by the United States. There are more American soldiers stationed in the Green Zone then those sent out in other areas.
Not bad if you can get away with it stealing 280 Million dollars telling Americans it was Iraq and then asking the taxpayers to replace the stolen money and given another 290 Million dollars. Bush/Cheney know they have dumb people when they can do what they want.
Comment by Jackie — July 13, 2007 @ 1:43 am
Good post, Jackie. Just one thing, too, that I’d like to throw in about taxpayer money paying for this fiasco: unfortunately, it’s those who can’t afford it who are paying, not the wealthiest ones who get so many tax breaks. With Bush’s ‘permanent’ tax cut for the richest, the US has had to become indebted to China for the next how many decades?
Hey, green, hope all is well with you!
July 13th, 2007 at 1:54 amHi, Jane.
And the Iraq war was won by the military Bush inherited from Clinton. What will the next president accomplish, with the near-dysfunctional military bequeathed him by Bush?
July 13th, 2007 at 1:56 amAnd the Iraq war was won by the military Bush inherited from Clinton. What will the next president accomplish, with the near-dysfunctional military bequeathed him by Bush?
Comment by barfly
I just hope it isn’t a case of “Holy shit, now we really do have to protect the homeland…”!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 2:01 am“What will the next president accomplish, with the near-dysfunctional military bequeathed him by Bush?”
Comment by barfly — July 13, 2007 @ 1:56 am
Effective diplomacy? The restoration of the Constitution? I’ve got to be hopeful, barfly, right? :-)
July 13th, 2007 at 2:02 amJackie is right – when the American people finally realise how much money has been wasted our economy will tank. But that is only one problem — all of these deaths are our responsibility. We are supposed adults – we have to assume the consequences.
All is well with me Jane – I hope all is well with you, we are the freedom fighters and the people who care. Blessings to you and all……….
July 13th, 2007 at 2:05 amThanks, green. Well, since I was here on TP until 3:00 am yesterday, I’m pretty beat. This freedom fighting is tough work!:-)
So, goodnight, all, dream hopeful dreams!
July 13th, 2007 at 2:11 amGood night Jane — no giving up – take care of self and others……Sleep well, tomorrow is another day. Peace.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:13 am‘Night Jane. Dream of a Bush-less America.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:14 amI just hope it isn’t a case of “Holy shit, now we really do have to protect the homeland…â€!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Especially now, with the gang-bangers in the military. When they get back in the states, they’ll be putting all their counter-intelligence expertise to work for their gangs, to defeat the Justice department invsetigations into their activities. It would be highly ironic if they started using terrorist-interrogation techniques on each other – and on any citizens unlucky enough to be mistaken for such.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:21 amIs “progress” defined as “pacifying”? Once we have “pacified” the Iraqi population, will we have achieved some higher goal?
July 13th, 2007 at 2:26 amMarine General Smedley Butler had a lot to say about his role in pacification projects. He basically said he had been a thug for capitalism, a racketeer that could teach a thing or two to Al Capone ( a contemporary of Butler’s)
We tried to pacify the Vietnamese and ended up killing about 4 MILLION of them. We should be at about ONE MILLION DEAD IRAQIs right about now. Is that progress?
“They made a wasteland and called it ‘peace’”
July 13th, 2007 at 2:27 amTacitus
What a joke of a country when the most urgent, relevant, hard-hitting news comes from footage off of the Jon Stewart Show on Comedy Central. Uneffing believable. Clearly, this is an unprecedented time we are going through. The strength of all our freedom fighters will be the least that is required to improve things.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:28 amComment by Shirley — July 13, 2007 @ 2:26 am
Shirley, you quote “The Fog of War”, am I right?
July 13th, 2007 at 2:30 amEspecially now, with the gang-bangers in the military. When they get back in the states, they’ll be putting all their counter-intelligence expertise to work for their gangs, to defeat the Justice department invsetigations into their activities. It would be highly ironic if they started using terrorist-interrogation techniques on each other – and on any citizens unlucky enough to be mistaken for such.
Comment by barfly
I’ve read a little about that. “Oh yeah, that’s REAL smart… take all these crayz Mofos in, teach them all this nasty, nasty stuff, and then send them back to their old neighborhoods.”
As this really sharp 6 yr old girl I used to know would say, “Charming!”
July 13th, 2007 at 2:33 amOr no, maybe it was the movie on Henry Kissinger? Anyway, I remember that, and it is all too significant.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:33 amYou folks are accomplishing NADA. Desk jockey cyber battle amounts to ZERo on the greater populace in America. They still see their Faux News and their CNN (Co-opted News Network) etc. and listen to their NPR (National Propaganda Radio). Bush’s approval ratings haven’t tanked because he’s a DUI, AWOL, lying, election cheating, mass murderer who is killing our honorable servicemembers to enrichen himself and his cronies! His numbers have tanked primarily because he hasn’t killed enough Arabs and/or stopped enough illegals at the border. The average American neanderthal wants to see more dead Iraqis, Palestinians, and Iranians and a big wall on the Mexican border. They haven’t made one centimeter of progress towards a more humanitarian progressive awareness. And they still think raising taxes on the rich is unfair (since the rich are our friends and they’ve earned every penny of their riches fairly!)
July 13th, 2007 at 2:36 amYou make a good point, Shirley. I intend to get the phone numbers of my state representatives and call them every day to tell to IMPEACH these thug mafia gangster hacks.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:40 amWhatever you say, Shirley.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:40 amkleep=keep, in an alternative universe!
July 13th, 2007 at 2:42 amHey Shirley and all – I’ve seen enough dead — enough is enough! It’s time for another revolution, and another and another — and on and on. We the people stand up or lie down and die. These criminals need to go and we are the ones that make it happen. Live free or die…………and that is that.
I love my country that once was — it is gone, but we can take it back if we so choose. The choice is ours. What what will WE do?
July 13th, 2007 at 2:55 amIt’s time for another revolution, and another and another — and on and on. We the people stand up or lie down and die….
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July 13th, 2007 at 3:32 amI see Mr Pseudo President is no longer commenting. Too afraid? Bully – pure and simple bully. I am ready to spar — bring it on!
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Note to Bush: You’re making steady progress, sir. We’re almost there. This war will not last many more days, maybe weeks, I doubt months. Soon the extremists will see us as the liberators we are. If not, we’ll lock them up in Gitmo.
July 13th, 2007 at 4:03 amHi there Jane and green.
July 13th, 2007 at 4:16 amAustralia is a democracy and we function just like our big brother the US of A: we get to vote every 3 years and then our elected representatives do whatever they feel like, without consideration of constituents’ wishes. PM Howard has positioned OZ as the 53rd state of the USA (Israel is the 51st and the UK under Tony Blair would be the 52nd).
Throughout the propaganda and lies in the run to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, 70 to 80 % of Australian were OPPOSED to our involvement, but PM Howard ’stuck fat’ with DUBYA and we are a member of the Coalition of the Willing. I would understand if you’re thinking we are not involved as Howard is a very clever man: our contribution of 2,500 army and navy types is less than the number of fatalities US forces have sustained. Australian forces have suffered one death and a dozen or so casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan, therefore Howard has not felt the same political heat other leaders have experienced due to casualties. If he did, he would withdraw immediately and leave the others to it. I watch the PBS Newshour and the memorial for the US military deaths in Iraq at the end of the show is so sad: and now some justify continued presence in Iraq by saying leaving now would be a waste of these lives. I am watching DUBYA on Newshour right now and he’s pushing the same old mendacious warmongering that is his stock and trade.
Howard also claims he was misled by intelligence, but we know he was complicit in the lies and distortions, after all he was in Washington DC on the 11th September 2001 (and if you have not seen the Zeitgeist film then invest 2 hours and watch it… ). He now shouts neocon slogans like “we won’t cut and run” and “we will stay the course to protect the world from terrorism… blah blah blah”
And please be advised: any anti-(US)american sentiments expressed by non US critics of the war are directed at your neocon executive government and their supporters.
‘See ya round – like a rissole’
TJ — I can only apologize for the lack of my country’s understanding – I am personally powerless – my vote is meaningless, my opinion of no matter. I must apologize to the world — as my people would request of me. It is all gone — America has no hope — I am silenced by all of my countrymen — I should not speak of these matters any more. I weep for the loss of it all. I don’t know what to do anymore – I have tried everything……………..and I weep. Bless you and all others. Peace be with you ………..and us.
July 13th, 2007 at 4:59 amWhen is Think Progress going to get control of it’s forums?
July 13th, 2007 at 6:29 amOh shove it, green, you watery-eyed pandering noodle, “OOOOhhhh I must apologize to the world for the US being the moronic jerks that we are”. Just shove it.
Im so tired of you crybabies pissing and moaning that the world doesnt like us, even though they put our brands first, even though they aspire to copy our culture, even though they take our aid money, even though they risk their lives to get here…quit yer wailing and grow up. If anything the world owes us for constantly having to bail them out of everything while they sit on their thumbs and berate us for our efforts.
“I weep”? Who the hell says “I weep” anymore? You superciliouos twit.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:36 amThat, is progress to the Bush Administration. The administration that put the “ox†in “Zeno’s Paradoxâ€.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 12, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
The Bush Administration: Asymptotically Approaching Success Since 2001
July 13th, 2007 at 6:54 amLeave it to the liberals for seeking an easy way out, no matter the consequences.
Wait…Iraq will transform into a garden of love and peace once we leave, right?
July 13th, 2007 at 7:02 amWhoa…the trolls are really sneering up a storm! I hope their lips don’t fall off.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:14 amYep, we’re making progress alright. We’ve almost completed our miserable defeat in a meaningless so-called war against who knows who in the middle of no where for no particular reason. Now by God, that’s progress.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:19 amIm so tired of you crybabies pissing and moaning that the world doesnt like us, even though they manufacture our brands at substandard wages, even though they aspire to copy our culture which is shoved on them by media companies that don’t turn a profit until products hit the international market, even though they are heavily indebted to us due to loans from our aid projects that always seem to benefit American companies and never really help the people they’re intended to, even though they risk their lives to get here to escape extreme poverty made worse by U.S. farm subsidies and trade policy…quit yer wailing and grow up. If anything the world owes us for constantly having to bail them out of everything while they sit on their thumbs and berate us for our efforts.
Comment by Kurosawa — July 13, 2007 @ 6:36 am
Fixed your post for ya.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:21 amYep, we’re making progress alright. We’ve almost completed our miserable defeat in a meaningless so-called war against who knows who in the middle of no where for no particular reason. Now by God, that’s progress.
Yep, its time to get out of Afghanistan, the liberal’s ‘Good War’.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:31 amIm so tired of you crybabies pissing and moaning that the world doesnt like us, even though they put our brands first, even though they aspire to copy our culture, even though they take our aid money, even though they risk their lives to get here…quit yer wailing and grow up. If anything the world owes us for constantly having to bail them out of everything while they sit on their thumbs and berate us for our efforts.
“I weep� Who the hell says “I weep†anymore? You superciliouos twit.
Comment by Kurosawa — July 13, 2007 @ 6:36 am
Oh you mean cyberbabies like you who sit on your thumbs supporting this war?
American brands first? Really might want to tell that to GM who is no longer the worlds largest car maker.. And what brands are even made here any more? Bought anything lately, I’ll bet it had a made in China label. Wow those corporations you defend sure are Patriots huh? The Mexicans only want to come here because a crappy low paying job, is better than no job. But I bet you HATE all the immigrants too? Funny that your wonderful leaders have had 6+ years to do SOMETHING about it, and they’ve done nothing. So who’s taking our aid money when we’re 4+ trillion dollars in debt? Sounds a bit fishy to me that we give people money that we borrowed. And why are we borrowing money to keep our country going? Ahh because we don’t tax the super-rich like we should, we’ve lost almost all of our decent paying jobs which provided a huge bulk of the tax money generated. And when us liberals condemn a company like say Walmart who has 99% of their goods made in China, and pays their employees crappy wages, with no benefits, and still they make billions in profits, you idiot “corporate whores” defend them.. You don’t quite see the big picture here.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:34 amYeah thats it, toaster, everything is the fault of America, EVERYTHING. 200+ nations on this poor earth and somehow every bad thing that happens can be traced to a country that has only been around for a few hundred years.
No responsibility for anyone else, no need to ask them to take ownership of the disasters they themselves create or vote into office. Nope, just blame America and wail about unfairness, thats a winning election-year bumper sticker for the DFL Party of Doom.
Liberals: No end to their rights, no beginning to their responsibililties.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:37 am#
Leave it to the liberals for seeking an easy way out, no matter the consequences.
Wait…Iraq will transform into a garden of love and peace once we leave, right?
Comment by Nacho — July 13, 2007 @ 7:02 am
No probably not for many, many years, if ever they have huge religious problems, like the Christian right here. But at least they will maybe stop blaming us for any new deaths, creating more people there that want to come invade our malls here. Common sense isn’t so common with you Dubya supporters is it?
July 13th, 2007 at 7:48 amThe president needs to level with the American people and tell the truth.
Who are you to tell him what to do? He doesn’t work for you.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:49 amWho are you to tell him what to do? He doesn’t work for you.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 13, 2007 @ 7:49 am
Yah, and that’s the problem, he works for his corporate, and banking masters when he should be working for the American citizens. What a bunch of brainwashed corporate whores this country has turned into.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:51 amYou need to lay off the hyperbole and get some knowledge of how economics works, the tired mantra of “Corporate greed” belies the function, purpose and contribution that corporations have to and in our society. Blaming China, while good for headlines, showcases your utter lack of modern business acumen; do you have any idea WHY its good to have foreign investment or how many foreign companies are owned by Americans? No clue? No shat.
Those evil corporations give you flush toilets, electric lights, safe medicine, healthy food, running water, Blu-Ray dvds, and the leotards you love to collect. If you ever get a job someday a corporation would provide that too. I know this is news to you but its true, really, and the quicker you educate yourself the better off you will be.
I realize that you are probably one of those idiots who believe that we should pay our retail clerks the same wage as that payed to neurosurgeons but then again liberals are clueless in just about everything, so I guess I shouldnt expect much more than a frothing scream of “WALMART SUCKS!”
July 13th, 2007 at 7:52 amDon’t bother Kurosawa. They will never understand. They keep wishing for the death of the likes of McDonalds, Exxon, GE, Boeing and Proctor & Gamble, thinking that if all these big and nasty corporations went away, little mom & pop shops would finally “get a chance” and would provide more politically correct services for their little utopia.
Maybe – until one those mom & pop operations would become so popular that it would turn into the next Walmart.
Their ideal world seems to be a place where everybody’s equal (i.e. no matter how skilled you are, you won’t get any more pay/benefits for doing your job), competition is a taboo and money is replaced by… I don’t know, caring and empathy perhaps. I’ve never quite understood how their world would work.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:58 amNo probably not for many, many years, if ever they have huge religious problems, like the Christian right here. But at least they will maybe stop blaming us for any new deaths, creating more people there that want to come invade our malls here. Common sense isn’t so common with you Dubya supporters is it?
Oooooohhhhh, the Christian Right, known for car-bombings, kidnappings, torture rooms and beheadings. Im getting to like you jp, because your wide-eyed chanting is actally getting to be entertaining. I mean that too, you are fun to debate with because its just so…bizarre.
Arent you afraid that the ‘Good War’ in Afghanistan is going to create terrorists too? Why isnt our intervention and occupation in the Balkans creating terrorists? Can you reason those out for me or should I hire a toddler to assist you?
July 13th, 2007 at 8:01 am#
You need to lay off the hyperbole and get some knowledge of how economics works, the tired mantra of “Corporate greed†belies the function, purpose and contribution that corporations have to and in our society. Blaming China, while good for headlines, showcases your utter lack of modern business acumen; do you have any idea WHY its good to have foreign investment or how many foreign companies are owned by Americans? No clue? No shat.
Those evil corporations give you flush toilets, electric lights, safe medicine, healthy food, running water, Blu-Ray dvds, and the leotards you love to collect. If you ever get a job someday a corporation would provide that too. I know this is news to you but its true, really, and the quicker you educate yourself the better off you will be.
I realize that you are probably one of those idiots who believe that we should pay our retail clerks the same wage as that payed to neurosurgeons but then again liberals are clueless in just about everything, so I guess I shouldnt expect much more than a frothing scream of “WALMART SUCKS!â€
Comment by Kurosawa — July 13, 2007 @ 7:52 am
If anyone needs to lay of anything you need to lay off the crack. I wasn’t blaming China, I blame America for allowing corporations to exploit labor.
Really corporations give me things? HAAHA as I look around my office, nothing was GIVEN to me you fool.
And no I’m not one of those people who thinks a Walmart clerk should make as much as someone who does something which takes skill. But when Walmart is getting tax cuts, and I’m paying more taxes because their low wages, and no insurance causes a strain on social systems there’s a problem because their making billions in profit. I’m all for corporations making lots of money, but not by exploitation.
I think you need to wake up and learn why this country was founded in the first place, and why we kicked Britain out. Because we wanted control of our own economy, banking systems, and you know other things like freedom of religion, speech, and basic human rights. (like to work 8 hours, and get paid enough to support yourself).
Since you’re obviously brainwashed by Rush, Faux News, I’ll tell you again liberals don’t hate corporations when the corporation operates with ethics. Maybe it’s you that need to take some business courses, I know one of the first things taught but then forgot, is ethics.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:02 amThe president needs to level with the American people and tell the truth.
Who are you to tell him what to do? He doesn’t work for you.
Comment by No-one in particular — July 13, 2007 @ 7:49 am
To the contrary, shit for brains…the President does work for us and that is where all you dumbass 26% trolls are wrong. The government is not to dictate to us, they are to work for us…we can fire their worthless asses and everyone with (R) after their names will be an after thought for a long, long time. Screw stupid trolls.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:03 amHey Kurosawa and Nacho, the US does nothing unless it is in the perceived interests of the US. You guys invaded a Iraq because it was a fight you thought you could win – remember “Mission Accomplished” that was a hilarious piece of slapstick – DUBYA the mighty military leader declaring victory, only to discover it was one big cluster f@&k – no plan and no idea: DumbasHell and his “stuff happens” and “freedom is messy”. Colon Bowel was right when he said “you will own it”, but it is not just a US problem – ask your average Iraq citizen. I suppose staying the course will produce ‘a garden of love and peace’ oops, I mean a ‘beacon for democracy in the middle east’ Just go to the Nation website and read about the horrifying morass that everyone faces in the new land of ‘freedom and democracy’.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:06 amThe US support for right wing dictatorships over the last 6 decades demonstrates that ‘democracy’ is only a smoke screen for the real agenda: advancing the economic outcomes for the US – I’m not going to spell it out, but maybe you could read a book or two by Chomsky. The Iraq war has achieved one thing: it has created a fantastic proving ground for so-called terrorists.
The US Forces have discovered that the enemy is a disparate bunch of nutters: at least the Vietnamese offered a single target. So now the administration is looking at Iran as the next under matched target, but at least it might look more like a regulation war played by the US rule book. North Korea is more problematic – too close to China. The sheer weight of numbers of Chinese might ‘whip ass’ unless you guys went thermo-nuclear, but then the Russians might get a bit nervous. And then there is ‘Old Europe’… But neocons have all the answers: make war… now that’s progress… more production for the military industrialists… more profits etc…
We don’t want your help if it involves US Forces. Sure there are a lot of good people in the US prepared to do good things for others, just do not include the military machine.
Basically, the US is in a dilemma: stay the course and slowly ‘bleed out’, or cut and run and watch an anti-US Islamic government take control. But then again something might pop into the mind of your illustrious leader – “mmm get some Peanuts”
Hey No-One, I have always thought that the libs just havent reasoned out all the details of their dream of the demise of Big Business; as in all things their emotions have gotten the better of them and they just want to feel good about themselves rather than trying to understand the consequences of their actions.
Do they really desire a return to the days of the barter system, and if so, who would trade with someone who offers nothing of substance such as the professional activists who so plague our lives?
July 13th, 2007 at 8:08 amKurosawa, please define ‘reasoned thought’ because as far as I can see from your comments ‘reasoned thought’ is code for ‘profits’ for US companies.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:13 am‘We’re making progress.’
“heh heh. Listen up A-mer-icuns, if you think you can do a better job of getting us to hell in a handbasket faster, well, I just don’t think it’s possible. I’ve asked my Generals, ‘Generals? Whats the fastest, most efficient way to get to hell?’
And you know what? Ever’ one of ‘em said, ‘Sir, the fastest most efficient way to get to hell is in a handbasket.’
We should trust our militerry, uh advisors, (is advisors a word?) with the militerry questions. They say they need more troops? well then, we should give ‘em to ‘em.
I just don’t think Congress should be making those kinds of decisions….what makes them think more heads is better than Dick….I mean, me.
So then I, I, posed another question…if you will…I said, ‘Well, how long will it take to get to hell?’
My Generals said….I like to call ‘em MY Generals, they said, uh, David for example, David Petraeus, General Petraeus, he said,
‘Mr. President’ (I like it when he calls me that, I get all tingly on my inside, ya know what I mean?) He said, “I really appreciate the extra troops, couldn’t have spirited out 287 million dollars w/o ‘em….which account did you want that in again?”
And I said: “Whoa Dave, this isn’t a secure line….I just need to know if the extra troops will be enough to secure Iraq.”
‘Well, after he…Dave…David….David Petraeus…General Petraeus stopped laughing, he said’, ” Oh hell no, I didn’t need them to secure Iraq I thought you wanted to go to hell in a handbasket…sir? we’re three quarters of the way there…..it’s too late to turn back, we’re making progress…we should stay the course’
So ya see ‘merica? We should stay the course, not becuz I say so…but because my good friend (I like to call everyone who agrees with me ‘my good friend’) General Petraeus says we should, and he’s the militerry ad-visor (still can’t believe that’s a ‘real’ word) on the ground
‘We’re making progress,’ he says, so that means we’re making progress (I love progess, I remember when mom used to bake up a big batch of progress for Jeb and I…(or is it Me and Jeb? Ah hell, I can never remember any of those fancy ‘word rules’)…warm progress is my favorite, think I’ll go ask Laura to make some for me, just like my mom used ta)
Good night Amer’ca, and God Bless
July 13th, 2007 at 8:18 amSorry, I didnt realize you had such a lack of nuance when it comes to understanding the english language. Substitute “provide” for “give” and you will be just fine. If you wish to parse it further, I suppose we could waste bandwidth doing so but I must warn you that I can only drag you along so far before I will get winded.
Ok professor, get this through your PBS-addled brain: companies arent in business to provide jobs, they are in business to make money. Do you expect a business to keep useless jobs in an effort to keep all their people employed? Should a job that consists of pulling weeds from the sidewalk eight hours a day pay enough to “support” a person, and what does “support” consist of, three hots and a cot or a king-size bed with matching bigscreen tv?
July 13th, 2007 at 8:22 amNo progress. Just more bull—- from Bush. I don’t even know why he held a press conference. Its his own party that are starting to abandon him. Apparently he can’t do anything to stem the tide of defections, and this won’t help as well.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:28 am500,000 + iraqi commas
3,600 + us commas
4 million commas left wondering around with no home
No Commas left behind policy. The only policy that is working
July 13th, 2007 at 8:29 amHey Kurosawa and Nacho, the US does nothing unless it is in the perceived interests of the US
Name a country, any country, that doesnt. Are you really so dense to believe that all nations DONT work on behalf of their own interests first? And America is supposed to trust naive children like you to govern?
July 13th, 2007 at 8:41 amGood morning, everybody! I had the weirdest dream last night: Gov. Bush of Texas was the President. Isn’t he the guy who presided over all those executions?
July 13th, 2007 at 8:43 amKurosawa, I think liberals have long recognised that when the neocons say their policies are about creating ‘jobs’ that is code for ‘profits’. You know the rhetoric “tax cuts (for the wealthiest) will provide the right environment for more jobs” or “deregulation will create opportunities for business to expand employment opportunities.” I wonder if neocon economic rationalists are able to make the distinction because they seem to repeat the same old rhetoric with a straight face that I fear they might actually believe it.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:44 amOm.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:45 amKurosawa:
So, why are you here (and why are you so angry)?
You have been “given” everything you want, we’re stupid and always wrong, you’re smart and always right, and you’re happy with the status quo.
What bothers you enough to repeatedly post here? Can we be happy in our ignorance?
Maybe….
MAYBE…
Maaaaaybeeeeeee…
It’s because you are scared that your value set, and your attitude, will be exposed for what they are: The frightened rantings of a spoon-fed coward who relaizes that the jig is up.
Go find some neocons to hang with. Misery loves company.
You freekin’ assnugget.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:48 amNacho, I never suggested that the US is the only country that works for its own self interest. It’s just that the US is the most active country in screwing others: Australian leadership is so closely aligned with the US because they believe it is in Australia’s best interest to keep Big Brother happy – providing moral support as a partner in the Coalition of the Willing. Bali was just the price paid – 202 dead (88 Australians and 2 US).
July 13th, 2007 at 8:53 amHey Marcus, whats shakin’? Is that the best rant you can create, honestly it isnt much better than I find at DU, KOS or the other stinkholes that pass as liberal comment blogs, not that I expected better.
‘Think Progress’? he..he..haha..hahaha…HA..HAHAHA..HAHAHAHAHA….BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
I will give you a virtual high-five for the first few lines of your screed though, because its oh so true. You libs ARE always wrong, not stupid just wrong, well ok maybe partially stupid….and I AM smart, thanks for noticing. :-)
July 13th, 2007 at 8:58 amThat is certainly an effective advertisement. Clean, simple enough for even the 26%ers to understand and very to the point.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:03 amNacho, I never suggested that the US is the only country that works for its own self interest. It’s just that the US is the most active country in screwing others:
You just keep believing that and you will be just fine. Yep, just fine.
Australian leadership is so closely aligned with the US because they believe it is in Australia’s best interest to keep Big Brother happy – providing moral support as a partner in the Coalition of the Willing. Bali was just the price paid – 202 dead (88 Australians and 2 US).
Ahh, so the price was paid for acting, which presumably means the price wouldnt have been paid had Australia not participated? Great, now all you have to do is figure out what will make the terrorists mad and decide that you need to “pay a price” for your actions. Today its participation in a war, tomorrow its a few cartoons that make fun of a religious figure.
Good luck with that.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:06 amOk professor, get this through your PBS-addled brain: companies arent in business to provide jobs, they are in business to make money. Do you expect a business to keep useless jobs in an effort to keep all their people employed? Should a job that consists of pulling weeds from the sidewalk eight hours a day pay enough to “support†a person, and what does “support†consist of, three hots and a cot or a king-size bed with matching bigscreen tv?
Comment by Kurosawa — July 13, 2007 @ 8:22 am
Listen fool, the US Govt was formed to stop companies from exploiting people.
Again none of us liberals have anything against companies making huge profits, but when they’re doing it and exploiting labor, and my taxes are then being used to give Walmart a tax break, or Exxon assistance there is something wrong with this picture. Why is it you sit here and fight for the rights of corporations to exploit yourself? Are you just stupid?? Guess so!
July 13th, 2007 at 9:06 amAnd one more thing, ALL good governments would do the same to protect their people. Sadly the world is not run by good governments.
Sadly you don’t even realize we’re fighting for you too, because you know when enough people are paid crappy wages, lose their jobs to outsourcing, downsizing, or immigration, you’ll no longer have customers who can afford to use the products and/or services you provide unless you provide.
And those days are coming:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16922582/
July 13th, 2007 at 9:12 amThe only progress I want to see the progress of the Impeachment Proceedings against George W. Bush, Richard Cheney and Alberto Gonzales.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:13 amThe only progress I want to see IS the progress of the Impeachment Proceedings against George W. Bush, Richard Cheney and Alberto Gonzales.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:15 amOk professor, get this through your PBS-addled brain: companies arent in business to provide jobs, they are in business to make money. Do you expect a business to keep useless jobs in an effort to keep all their people employed? Should a job that consists of pulling weeds from the sidewalk eight hours a day pay enough to “support†a person, and what does “support†consist of, three hots and a cot or a king-size bed with matching bigscreen tv?
Comment by Kurosawa — July 13, 2007 @ 8:22 am
In order to make money, they have to sell goods and services. In order for people to purchase those goods and services, they have to have jobs. The problem isn’t companies making money, it’s companies looking only at short-term gains so their quarterly reports can bump up their stock five points and ignoring the long-term effects of of layoffs and outsourcing and polluting and shifting their operations to countries without labor protections.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:17 amKurosawa, care to contribute something relative to the actual thread?
I’m sure the corporate apologist in you loves the Bushies penchant for no-bid contracts…pretty anti-capitalist if you ask me.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:18 ammad and decide that you need to “pay a price†for your actions. Today its participation in a war, tomorrow its a few cartoons that make fun of a religious figure.
Good luck with that.
Comment by Nacho — July 13, 2007 @ 9:06 am
Wonder what would happen if I made a little cartoon of Jebus being sodomized by Bush? Bet some whacky right wingers would go off.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:19 amrelative, related…coffee yet to kick in…
July 13th, 2007 at 9:21 amToaster, Kurosawa does not know any better, as much as it blusters.
His untempered support of corporatism at its worst (exploitative labor practices, cutting corners in any way possible to squeeze a few more bucks out of the bottom line etc.) indicates how little he knows about American History.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:24 amAhh, so the price was paid for acting, which presumably means the price wouldnt have been paid had Australia not participated? Great, now all you have to do is figure out what will make the terrorists mad and decide that you need to “pay a price†for your actions. Today its participation in a war, tomorrow its a few cartoons that make fun of a religious figure.
Logic is clearly not your strong point. Now just slow down and think about what your writing.
But then again there is neocon logic – here’s how it works: Dubya – “Saddam is an Arab, and the terrorists are Arabs, therefore Saddam is a terrorist, lets kill Saddam and the terrorist will go away”
July 13th, 2007 at 9:43 amDemocracy is on the march
We are making real progress in Iraq
We are about to turn the corner in Iraq
The insurgency is in its’ last throes, if you will
We need to give the surge time to work
I listen to my Generals on the ground and if they asked for more troops, they’d have had more troops.
$9 billion in cash disappeared the first year.
The only assignment for the military: protect the oil ministry and infrastructure.
Unguarded weapons and bomb making materials.
Fired any General who did not agree with the Citizens running the war.
Oh, and you corporation lovers:
The good old USofA has always used our CIA and our military to destabilize governments that were unfriendly to US corporate interests. We did it in Central America: el Salvador, Nicaragua, Chile, the Dominican republic; we tried to do it in Cuba and Venezuela. Our policy has been; either you allow us to take your resources, or we will have a bloody coup, and put in the guy who WILL let us steal your resources.
And so it is with Iraq. God, for some reason, put them on our oil, and by God, for god and country, we will have that oil.
Maybe some of you troglodytes think that is a good and effective use of our military. I would disagree. Something about killing for profits just does not sit well with me. I guess I don’t have the same intestinal fortitude as you Bush-loving corporate apologists. Yes, liberals and progressives are weak; we do not have the stones to rape and kill people because they had the temerity to deny us the oil god promised us.
So there is the difference between corporate conservatives and progressives. Progressives do not have what it takes to kill for the corporate interests of the state.
What do you call it when the government and corporations are basically working together. FACISM
That’s the position you support.
As Bush said; this would be a lot easier if this was a dictatorship; and I was the dictator.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:56 amJust another corporation that hates America
The Defense Department put U.S. troops in Iraq at risk by awarding contracts for badly needed armored vehicles to companies that failed to deliver them on time, according to a review by the Pentagon’s inspector general.
The June 27 report, obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press, examined 15 contracts worth $2.2 billion awarded since 2000 to Force Protection Inc. and Armor Holdings Inc.
The contracts were issued without the normal competition for government work because the military determined these companies were the only ones capable of supplying the vehicles fast enough to meet the demands of deployed troops.
Yet the inspector general’s report concluded otherwise.
Overall, Force Protection of Ladson, S.C., received 11 contracts from the Army and Marine Corps worth $417 million for a variety of vehicles, including its Buffalo and Cougar mine-resistant trucks.
Force Protection failed to meet all delivery schedules, according to the report, and acquisition officials knew there were other manufacturers that might have supplied some of the vehicles in a more timely fashion. The report does not provide the names of those possible alternative sources.
Mike Aldrich, a Force Protection vice president, acknowledged the delays and said the problems were caused by an inability to get essential manufacturing materials.
The company’s production and delivery schedules have improved greatly in recent months, Aldrich added, noting that 100 of the Buffalo vehicles have been delivered.
“Government reports are largely written by lawyers and look intimidating when you pick them up,” Aldrich said. “But our vehicles perform well in theater and have saved the lives of troops.”
The inspector general’s report agreed that Force Protection’s vehicles have been of substantial value since they arrived.
The report, not yet publicly released, also criticizes the Army’s award of a $266 million contract for crew protection kits to Simula Aerospace and Defense Group, a subsidiary of Armor Holdings of Jacksonville, Fla.
Simula lacked the internal controls necessary to ensure delivery of the kits, which were needed to make military vehicles less vulnerable to roadside bombs and small-arms fire, according to the report.
The Army received kits “with missing and unusable components, which increased installation time and required additional reinspection of kits,” according to the report.
In describing the scope of the problem, the report said that some of the Simula kits delivered to the troops had two left doors, were missing side plates and contained brackets that needed re-welding.
Overall, the problems “resulted in increased risk to the lives of soldiers,” the report states.
Armor Holdings received three other contracts worth $1.5 billion for armored Humvees and armor kits to strengthen older-model vehicles.
Spokesman Michael Fox said the company had not seen the report and had no immediate comment.
The review was requested by Rep. Louise Slaughter, D-N.Y., in April 2006, after she learned the Pentagon was relying on just a few small companies to supply bomb-resistant vehicles to troops in Iraq.
With improvised explosive devices accounting for the majority of combat deaths and injuries, Slaughter said that strategy needed to be examined.
“It’s been business as usual,” Slaughter said Wednesday after reviewing the report. “The lives of our soldiers took a back seat to who got the contracts.”
Slaughter said the report raises more questions than answers and that she wants to know if the awards were the result of “influence peddling or insider connections.”
In written comments to the inspector general, the Marine Corps defended its acquisition decisions for the vehicles.
The armored vehicle contracts “were executed within the law, spirit and intent of the current acquisition rules and regulations,” according the comments.
In separate written comments, the Army did not object to the report’s findings.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070711/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/armored_vehicle_delays;_ylt=AmwOgcVUI5efgyjRzvQDeKCs0NUE
July 13th, 2007 at 10:04 amPresident Bush: serving his corporate masters, betrays the U.S.
George W. Bush has created a terrorism-industrial complex even more sinister and deadly that than the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us so wisely against.
What kind of president hosts secret meetings in the White House with profit-bloated business and campaign contributors who make vast fortunes by polluting the planet and profiting from his miserable war?
What kind of president initiates a preemptive war, creates an Occupation Authority that promotes corruption as vast as anything ever dreamed of during the Roman Empire, covers up massive torture at Abu Ghraib, keeps open the universally condemned prison at Guantanamo, allows tens of billions of dollars to be stolen or wasted during this occupation, sends underpaid troops to war while he fails to provide them the equipment they need to survive, holds gala fundraisers serving champagne and caviar to those who make vast profits from this tragic venture, then attacks the patriotism of his opponents, claims to do this in the name of God, escalates these wrongs in the name of democracy, angers and alienates the entire free world, wonders why our enemy is succeeding, and clings with some pathological obsession to this miserable and failed policy?
On this day, while the radical Republicans in the Senate filibuster Jim Webb’s effort to restore rationality to rotations of heroic and beleagured troops, we learn that our troops have not gotten their urgently requested armored vehicles because of continuing corruptions endemic to this terrorism-industrial complex, we learn that American blood shed to buy the government government time has been insulted by an Iraqi government that does not meet even basic benchmarks, we learn that al Qaeda regained its pre-Sept. 11 strength to capitalize on the catastrophes caused by the partisan president who so shamelessly exploited that very tragedy, we learn of the latest presidential claim of executive privilege to cover up the latest abuse of executive power, and there is more, but the day is not long enough, nor the space here great enough, to list every wrongdoing and failure for even this one 24-hour period.
http://pundits.thehill.com/2007/07/12/george-w-bush-war-profiteers-and-the-terrorism-industrial-complex/
July 13th, 2007 at 10:08 amCome on Oh YE TROLLS and defend the fascist government you love.
Proclaim your allegiance to the Terrorist-Industrial complex.
Defend your hero’s fascist policies, and callous disregard for human life. Hey, what’s a few dead people, there are profits at stake.
Silence. Crickets.. Not even a paragraph of exclamation points.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:12 amHow can you defend the indefensible?
Hi funky p, very insightful comments. They are probably struggling with the length of the posts: keep it simple, as they are more comfortable with nice short slogans, “we’re making progress” and avoid words which will require a dictionary: troglodytes. And far too many facts with genuine sources…
July 13th, 2007 at 10:37 amIf anything the world owes us for constantly having to bail them out of everything while they sit on their thumbs and berate us for our efforts.
Comment by Kurosawa — July 13, 2007 @ 6:36 am
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July 13th, 2007 at 11:47 amYou Damn Right!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by President Bush — July 13, 2007 @ 8:18 am
Sir, we know who you are, sir.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:48 amhttp://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Comment by willyloman — July 13, 2007 @ 12:48 am
Thanks for the link… it’s amazing to discover how much Christianity owes to ancient astronomers/astrologers. With segues to and tie-ups with the other threads in the film, we begin to see a comprehensive picture of today’s political zeitgeist. Nice work.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:24 pmComment by President Bush — July 13, 2007 @ 8:18 am
Sir, we know who you are, sir.
Comment by Mr. President
Yeah? The link was left there on PURPOSE. Quite the sleuth though, aren’t ya?
July 13th, 2007 at 1:23 pmKuroswawa and Mr President: yeah thanks for your efforts over the years, we are ever so grateful that you manage to create chaos and mayhem throughout the world: south and central America, Africa, the middle east, central and south east Asia. Those residing in Antarctica are feeling a bit left out – could you please arrange for an invasion, sorry peaceful intervention, to secure the southern continent for future exploitation, sorry development, by US corporations. We in Australia are bulletproof because you guys are our mates: yep we get to hang with the Sepo bullyboys and beat up on the weak and defenceless.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:26 pm..my letter to congress concerning the president’s message:
Dear Speaker Pelosi,
I encourage Congress to file simultaneous impeachment proceedings against Mr. George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Alberto Gonzales immediately. At the same time indict Harriet Meiers for her failure to appear at hearings. She is not above the legal mandates issued by congress.
It is clear that the President, et al, are not behaving rationally concerning the wars in the middle east, Iraq and Afghanistan. There is more than enough evidence to bring a case for impeachment against each of them. By bringing simultaneous impeachment charges it will call attention to the extent of the corruption and the illegal practices of this White House administration.
The majority of Americans comprehend what Congress seems to fail to understand. That this sitting president behaves like a spoiled child.
Why do you, a Mother, and leader, choose to indulge this dangerous child, who wears the mantle of president of the United States. This same spoiled child that alone has the power to press a nuclear button that can create holocaust throughout the world. I do not understand your failure to immediately press for removal of such a person as Mr. Bush. Please start impeachment proceedings. You were elected to do what was necessary to change the direction of this nation. There is no other recourse at this point.
Avoiding the impeachment process implies that the democrats in congress are as interested as the republicans in keeping the war money flowing into their districts. No matter how many die for the political contributions and profits garnered by the war. Simple logic indicates that the reason democrats have not moved for impeachment is because they, too, have sold their integrity to the lobbiests and war profiteering corporations in order to benefit personal campaign interests.
There is no sane reason to allow this president and his entourage to continue the destruction of America, as well as the ruin other nations it deems unfit to govern their own affairs.
We need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. We need to discontinue threats against Iran. And, we need to mind our own business. (caveat: provide food, medicines, and education to those in need).
July 14th, 2007 at 4:07 pm